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Description:ZSG Ultima compound Panaracer's latest ZSG compound utilizes a mixture of polymers and silica to produce a tire with unrivalled grip in wet conditions. ZSG Ultima is also more durable than other soft condition tire compounds.
Optimum Knob Pattern By arranging the knob pattern closer to the centre of the tire, the TrailRaker provides maximum grip on even the most extreme of cambers yet will not clog up, even in the muddiest of conditions.
Pyramid knobs At 5.5mm in height the centre and middle knobs are designed to dig deep into muddy ground providing maximum traction and performance in wet conditions.
"Double Decker" knobs The structure of the central "Double Decker" knobs increases stiffness for improved acceleration and braking.
ASB Chafer Panaracer's unique ASB (Anti Snake Bite) chafer is manufactured using anti-rebound rubber to prevent the chance of pinch flats by over 40%.
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Submitted by
Russell Warne
a Cross Country Rider
from Durban, South Africa
Date Reviewed: March 11, 2008 | | Favoriate Trail: | russellw@workgroup.co.za | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | These tyres grip anything and I had no problems with rolling resistance, 'slowness' or slipping on dusty hardpack (everything slips on dusty hardpack people...). | | Weaknesses: | A bit heavy so racing snakes will want to avoid this one. | | Similar Products Used: | Hutchinson Pythons, Kenda Karma, Bontrager Jones XC, Larsen Mimos. | | Bike Setup: | Giant Trance, set up for trail and XC | | Bottom Line: | After a fall using Karmas, I stuck a 2,25 Cinder up front to get extra grip. I then did a 3 day MTB event and was hugely impressed by the cinder. Mud, singletrack, district road and tar were all handled well without the feeling I was having to work harder to keep the tyre roling. At the same time the grip was outstanding. This tyre surpised me - I wanted grip and expected the tyre to roll like a brick, but it was a pleasure to ride all 'round. And it was cheaper than most other tyres. I'd recommend this to anyone except the XC speed freaks who will have a tizzy about the weight and be terrified at the size of the knobs. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tim
a Cross Country Rider
from Logan, UT
Date Reviewed: March 5, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$22.00 | | Purchased At: | Online | | Strengths: | Good rear tire. Climbs well. Gives a fairly smooth ride and adheres to terrain very well. Has nice volume for its size. Good in moist environments and in technical terrain. | | Weaknesses: | Rolls slow rolling and heavy. Side knobs don't give a lot of grip. When used as a front tire, it often has trouble hooking up consistently, especially on loose surfaces. Don't puncture easily, pretty durable. | | Similar Products Used: | Spesh Resolution Pro, Nevegals, Weirwolfs. | | Bike Setup: | Trek 4900, highly upgraded. | | Bottom Line: | Used a set of the 2.25s as front and rear for about a year. Cinders work great in a wetter environment with loots of forest, log piles, roots, etc... The grip rock well and are nice in rock gardens. In mud they clear pretty well most of the time. The wetter the better for these. Its a a perfect tire for Western PA / Laurel Highlands.
When I moved to UT I noticed that the front simply wouldn't hook up consistently on anything lose. After about July, all the trails are loose packed out here, so I switched to a 2.3 Weirwolf within a month and it was much more consistent hook up in the front.
As a rear tire the cinder works well. Even after a year they still had decent grip for climbing. The rear tends to drift quite a bit on some turns, its fairly consistent and actually can help the bike maneuver. Heavy rear braking can be sort of a skidfest on these. After a few more months I put a 2.1 nevagal on the rear, a much better rear tire for the dry summer months. Rolls faster, lower profile contoured knobs seems to grip better on loose trails. Side knobs work better, less drift, more carve.
I still have the cinders around for use in the spring, but once the trails start to dry out, I will be switching back. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Thomas
a Weekend Warrior
from TN
Date Reviewed: February 10, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$28.00 | | Purchased At: | Jenson | | Strengths: | Great Grip in most any condition I have to offer. | | Weaknesses: | None Yet | | Similar Products Used: | Specialized Adren... | | Bike Setup: | 05 Rockhopper 08 Rockshox Recon Race Fork, Bombshell Revelation Trail Wheelset. Panaracer Fire xc pro 2.1 front, cinder 2.1 rear. | | Bottom Line: | Have had it in moist loose, mud, rock and hard pack and just a great tire. Climbs well. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Brian Blair
a Weekend Warrior
from East Lothian, Scotland
Date Reviewed: December 9, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | sleekitnuts@hotmail.com | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$34.00 | | Purchased At: | Wiggle | | Strengths: | Grip, handling, oh and grip | | Weaknesses: | None so far | | Similar Products Used: | Speed Kings | | Bike Setup: | Focus Killer Bee | | Bottom Line: | After a few nervous weeks using Continental Speed Kings in the Scottish winter these tyres were a revelation. I now go round previously trecherous corners with a smile on my face. Don't know what they're like in the summer yet but in wet conditions they are absolutely brilliant. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mean Mr Mustard
a Cross Country Rider
from CA
Date Reviewed: November 5, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | wilder ranch | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$25.00 | | Purchased At: | Jenson | | Strengths: | price is right, grips well on most off-road surfaces, sheds mud well | | Weaknesses: | 1.95 seems too narrow, wears out FAST on asphalt | | Similar Products Used: | panaracer fire xc, specialized team control, wtb racing raptor, etc | | Bike Setup: | steel hardtail sucka | | Bottom Line: | This is a nice all arounder when you consider how cheap you can find these online. However, I'd go for the Fire XCs again next time. They are a bit knobbier, heavier,slower rolling, and don't shed mud as well, but they're less twitchy and wash out less in loose terrain. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tom
a Weekend Warrior
from MA
Date Reviewed: November 2, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Chaos | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$25.00 | | Purchased At: | Nashbar and Pricepoint | | Strengths: | Traction(acceleration/deceleration), tread life and sidewall durability. Also to my surprise, some snow traction, not great, but good enough to have fun. | | Weaknesses: | front wheel cornering with the 2.1 width is pretty bad, the 2.25 is much better, but still washes out on fast hardpack. | | Similar Products Used: | many | | Bike Setup: | 1994 Cannondale Super V(can't seem to let it go) 2.25 front mounted to American Classic 350 disc and 2.25 rear mounted to Mavic 717 disc laced to Woodman Disco hub | | Bottom Line: | I have been a big fan of Panaracer since 1989 and these do not disappoint. The only problem I have is the front tire washing out on fast hardpack. That may be more to my lack of ability then anything else. I run these front 25-30psi, rear 30-35psi with no pinch flat problems(rider weight @190 with gear). I used to run the 1.95 and 2.1 in the rear, but had to run higher pressure(+40psi) to avoid pinch flats. Last year my main riding trail changed to a much more rocky/downhill type, so i changed the rear to the robust 2.25. This allowed me to run lower pressure then lighter/skinnier widths.
They can be had pretty cheap now so 5 for value, but the front wheel cornering, whether my problem or not, I can only give it a 4 overall. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John
a Weekend Warrior
from Oregon
Date Reviewed: October 17, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Whistler | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$30.00 | | Bottom Line: | This is an update to my original post. I took these tires to Whistler in Aug/07' and they performed as I suspected they would,,excellent. I hit everything Whistler had to offer. The tires grip is outstanding. I ran the bike down A-Line and B-Line and never felt it wanting to let go. It's nice never to have to worry about your tires.
PANARACER..PLEASE MAKE THIS TIRE IN A 2.5 AND BIGGER !!!!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mark Adams
a Cross Country Rider
from Findon ,West Sussex ,England
Date Reviewed: September 2, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Surrey Hills | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$30.00 | | Purchased At: | Wiggle | | Strengths: | Durability, puncture resistance, all round performance, easy on/off - Mavic XC717s. | | Weaknesses: | Lacks grip in some dry dusty conditions (not much of a problem in the UK) | | Similar Products Used: | Panaracer XC Fire, IRC Mythos XC, Pana Smoke/Dart. | | Bike Setup: | Blur LT, Mavic/ Hope, MonoM4, 07 Talas RLC, Cinder 2.25 | | Bottom Line: | The best all round UK tyre I've ridden. In 2yrs I've had no more than 3 flats. Just replaced them as rear tread getting low, and sidewalls starting to perish. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andrew Meth-Cohn
a Downhiller
from Cumbria, England
Date Reviewed: August 10, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Walna Scar | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$50.00 | | Purchased At: | Wheelbase UK | | Strengths: | Pretty good grip in most condition. Closest to a DH tyre but without the weight. | | Weaknesses: | Not so good in the dusty stuff, bad in hard corners. | | Bike Setup: | 2004 Stumpjumper FSR | | Bottom Line: | I have found when cornering sharply this tyre preforms terribly. The large soft knobs on the edge of the tyre litteraly bend & roll and result in the tyre slipping. This has happened to me a couple of times on the trails, even once on roadv all of which did not slide gradually they just went and I faceplanted the ground. The last time it slipped was on the lip of a drop off, The front wheel came out and I fell down into a tree and dislocated my shoulder. Any1 want to buy my spare Cinder? lol | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ken
a Downhiller
from Boulder, CO
Date Reviewed: August 2, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Tough.. Traction, traction, traction, traction, traction.. did I mention traction? | | Weaknesses: | Don't come in a larger size than 2.25. | | Similar Products Used: | Maxxis, Kenda, Specialized, IRC, WTB. | | Bike Setup: | '07 Intense Uzzi VPX | | Bottom Line: | I've ran these on trailbikes for 2+ years over loose/dry mountain conditions (CO front range, Moab), midwest roots/hardpack and thick mud. These things grip like crazy glue on anything I've ever thrown at them. I'm not sure if the reviewer below was running some crazy high air pressure or what (mid-upper 30's is fine even for big guys) but I've never found a trail tire that sticks better. My only whine is that they don't make them in a 2.4+ size. A 2.25 just looks too whimpy to put on 7+ in travel bike. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
crappy
a Weekend Warrior
from san francisco, ca
Date Reviewed: July 29, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | they're cheap and fine for non-aggressive use | | Weaknesses: | they slip all over the place...can't climb in dry dusty CA weather, and couldn't climb in moist new england weather. | | Similar Products Used: | maxxis high roller (love em except a bit heavy), wtb mutanoraptor (low rolling resistance, but thin sidewall and small tread made this slippy) | | Bike Setup: | ibis mojo | | Bottom Line: | these tires sucked for me. i tried fire xc pros and didn't care for those. if you do normal xc riding they'll be fine. if you do any drops or ride in mud, forget it. if you ride in dusty conditions, they slip. i'll never buy any panaracer again. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris
a Cross Country Rider
from Ontario, Canada
Date Reviewed: July 28, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | The Crown | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$25.00 | | Purchased At: | online | | Strengths: | Possibly the perfect fit for technical singletrack in all NE conditions/seasons. | | Weaknesses: | Only sketchiness I have found on singletrack is extremely dusty conditions on hardpack. Also a bit sketchy in pine needles--as someone said, this is more back country issue. Bigger square knobs of the Cinder can't punch through like some of the more sharp-edged treads. | | Similar Products Used: | IRC Trailbear (good), Kenda Kinetics (fair), IRC Mythos (fair), Ritchey Excavader (good), Panaracer Fire FR (2.4, winter and deep dirt beast) | | Bike Setup: | Marin East Pike Quad FS frame, Reba fork, Rotor crank, about 31 lbs. | | Bottom Line: | My general set-up is a 2.1 Cinder on the back and a 2.25 up front; pressure 37 rear; 32 front; my riding weight is 185. I started with the Cinder on the back and the Trailbear, with a more directional tread, up front. Tried the Cinder up front; better tracking and better braking, and the new-tech rubber has much better wet condition performance. Great performance wet and dry, loose, packed, roots, rocks (pebbles and sharp-edged limestone), and snow. Nails the corners; really boosts the confidence--it's a tire that works with you, but don't have to think about.
This is a four season tire--we ride trails all year except March. Only if snow is really deep, I throw on a Fire FR 2.4, a big volume beast with dirtbike knobs (also unbelievable in deep loam), but, again doesn't compare to the Cinder's ZSG rubber in the wet and slimey. In some enduro races with lots of fireroad/gravel road/pavement--and only if dry--I put on another wheelset with a 2.1 Excavader on the back and 2.1 Cinder up front. The Excavader just rolls so easy and climbs well but slides easy in the turns (I don't know how someone could use this tire up front, but rear is pretty good).
Weights for aramid bead are as follows 1.95-530g, 2.1-650g, 2.25-760g. Add 50g for steel. Yes, there are some 450g 2.1's that are really 1.95 size and won't take you where the Cinder will. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jason K
a Weekend Warrior
from England
Date Reviewed: July 26, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Chicksands, Bedfordshire | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$40.00 | | Strengths: | Great grip in lots of varied conditions, even on hardpacked dirt surfaces, excellent durability with only a small amount of wear even after 2 years | | Weaknesses: | Rolling resistance (my other bike has UST's fitted), but is a true dirt tire, and sidewall has split on the rear. | | Bike Setup: | Intense 6.6 with lots of nice bits added | | Bottom Line: | The best all-round tire I have tried. Good enough in the muck, lots of grip for tricky climbs, and I have dirt jumped and 4X raced mine. They inspire confidence in all conditions and it wasn't until I fitted Maxxis High Roller and Larsen to my 4X bike did I realise how good these tires are. Major downside is I managed to split the side wall of the tire (even though the tread is hardly worn) which I think is down to too much jumping (both sides of the rear tire side walls are showing signs of stress, although may be due to not running enough PSI) | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mat Harnan
a Weekend Warrior
from Nottingham, UK
Date Reviewed: July 14, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | The Pines | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Totally predictable in all conditions. Fit and forget choice. Aramid bead model not that heavy. Good in mud. | | Weaknesses: | They do roll slower than a lighter race tyre but you would expect that as they have lots of knobbly bits gripping the ground (which is what you want them to do!). | | Similar Products Used: | WTB Motoraptor, Bontragers, Hutchinson Spider, Panaracer Fixe XC pro, Panaracer Trailraker, Panaracer Razor MX | | Bike Setup: | Giant Trance running Rockshox Reba sl's, Mavic Crossride wheelset and Raceface finishing stuff | | Bottom Line: | They are the best all round tyre I have come across. They are predictable, grip well in all dry conditions and surfaces and handle the wet with confidence inspiring solidity. They cope with mud nearly as well as the Panaracer Trailrakers and are much better on wet slippery roots that the Fire XC pros.
I'm riding the 2.1's and they are more than enough for the kind of forest singletrack/trail riding I do. They also coped brilliantly at Dalby Forest (Yorkshire, UK).
In summary, these tyres are an excellent all condition, all year tyre that have yet to dissapoint on any level. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Basil Chua
a Cross Country Rider
from Singapore
Date Reviewed: April 28, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$20.00 | | Strengths: | Heavy duty. Rolls over anything! Great on mud, slippery off road tracks. | | Weaknesses: | Weight disadvantage. | | Similar Products Used: | Panaracer XC Fire Pro | | Bike Setup: | GIANT XTC Team. Front - 2.25-inch. Rear - 2.1-inch. | | Bottom Line: | Takes you anywhere - uphill, downhill, singletrack, XC. The tyres will roll over anything - trunks, rocks, stream, mud, pebbles, potholes - anything! The tyres inspire confidence for you to ride aggressively.
It is not true that the tyres are slow. Speed is a function of power and stamina (wheel set is an important contributing factor). I ride on long-distance asphalt roads with these tyres occasionally - 35 km/h sustained velocity on flat roads and up to 80 km/h top speed on downhills - all on these fat tyres.
Panaracer Cinder are outstanding tyres. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
cal johnson
a Cross Country Rider
from denver, co, us of a
Date Reviewed: March 26, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | soveraign trail, moab, ut | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$20.00 | | Purchased At: | performance | | Strengths: | climb up anything. Great grip flying down hills over large rocks and changes in terrain. Great for training and getting your legs in shape. | | Weaknesses: | ssssllllllllllooooooooowwwwwwwww. Never use these in a race. | | Bike Setup: | 2002 stumpjumper w/ xtr components and manitou r7 elites
sun rhyno rims. chris king rear hub and lx front hub. | | Bottom Line: | fun tire, if you have the muscle and balance, you can crank up anything in these tires. And that's what makes them such a blast. They are incredible for training b/c they allow you to stay on your bike. And they're so damn heavy that they'll give your legs a killer workout.
Just don't expect to take these tires into a race, cause you will get your ass kicked. They really are the slowest tires I have ever been on. On pavement. kids with training wheels will blow past you | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Matt A
a Cross Country Rider
from Madison, Va, USA
Date Reviewed: March 9, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Spider Alley | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$20.00 | | Purchased At: | JensonUSA | | Strengths: | In one word, traction. Weather it is forward traction, cornering traction, or even lateral traction (better explanation in a second) the cinder out perform my previous Hutchinson "On The Rocks" tires. By lateral traction I'm refering to the line the tire tracks when the bike is upright. I found that with my old Hutchinson's that I was able to pick as exact lines, which left me sliding out and falling over. The Cinder's DO NOT have that problem. With the Cinder's I am able to pick my line and they stay with it which is important to be able to do on the trails in Okinawa on a HT. They also don't spin the many, many uphill roots here in Okinawa. My old Hutchinson's would hit the root, spin for one pedal stroke minimum (kicking the tail of the bike out at the same time I might add) then grab and go on. There have also been some complaints on here about the rolling resistance of the Cinder's, especially on pavement. All I have to say is that if one is comparing the Cinder's to semi-slicks then they are wrong in doing so. A semi-slick is obviously going to have lower rolling resistance and shouldn't be considered in the same category as knobbies. That being said I have found that the Cinder's have a much lower rolling resistance than my old Hutchinson's and I find myself gaining speed without pedaling on streches that I used to have to pedal on with the Hutchinsons. | | Weaknesses: | None other than the narrow visual appearance of the 1.95s, even when compared to my old Hutchinson's 1.95s. The Cinders appear about a half inch narrower than the Hutchinsons, but don't let that deter you, the Cinders still outperform. | | Bike Setup: | '96 Trek 7000 HT w/ Rock Shox Indy SL fork, Shimano XTR V-brakes, Shimano M-747 pedals, Panaracer Cinder 1.95 | | Bottom Line: | Great tire for all conditions, especially for the price. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bill
a Weekend Warrior
from Austin, TX, USA
Date Reviewed: December 20, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | WheelWorld.com | | Strengths: | Great traction on hardpack, rocks, roots | | Weaknesses: | High rolling resistance | | Bike Setup: | Specialized Epic Marathon | | Bottom Line: | This tire works well for the trails around Austin (TX). I doesn't slip on the rocks and roots like my original Specialized tires did.
I know the high rolling resistance is due to the knobbiness of the tire, but I'm willing to have that trade-off for the trails around here. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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John
a Cross Country Rider
from Breinigsville PA
Date Reviewed: November 17, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | Bear Creek | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$19.00 | | Purchased At: | performance bike | | Strengths: | Price and Tread Design
| | Weaknesses: | Tire Casing | | Similar Products Used: | WTB Velociraptors, WTB Weirwolfs, Conti. Explorers | | Bike Setup: | Giant Trance 3 | | Bottom Line: | A tire for less than $20...awesome! I've even seen them as low as $15.99. The tread design is pretty aggressive and sticks fairly well. The tire clears the mud well too.
But be careful, you tend to get what you pay for. On two different occasions while riding some rocky terrain I've had rocks cut through the casing totally shredding the tire...Not cool, especially when you have to walk a few miles with the bike because of a 2" cut in the tire.
All in all, even with the two walk-a-bike episodes, I'll buy them again. You just can't beat the price! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave
a Weekend Warrior
from Gardner MA USA
Date Reviewed: October 1, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | Leominster State Forest | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$20.00 | | Purchased At: | Pricepoint.com | | Strengths: | Amazing Grip, looks great, rolls pretty fast, price | | Weaknesses: | None found | | Similar Products Used: | Bontrager Jones:Bad Hutchison Mosquito:Bad Moto Raptors: not too bad...nothing compares to these | | Bike Setup: | Kona Bear, set up for Agressive XC | | Bottom Line: | These tires are awsome, just buy them and you'll see.
Price is amazing for a tire this good, I regret buying every tire that I've ever bought. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Matt
a Weekend Warrior
from Dedham, MA, USA
Date Reviewed: September 28, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | Blue Hills, Foxboro State Forest, Naked Man, Noanet/Hale | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$20.00 | | Purchased At: | Nashbar | | Strengths: | Great cornering,climbing grip, self cleaning, grips well on sand. Gives great confidence in any conditions. | | Weaknesses: | If anything, rolling resistance. Seems better in most conditions, but on hard pack, it seems to lag slightly compared to other tires, but the trade-off is highly worth it. | | Similar Products Used: | Bontrager's, IRC's | | Bike Setup: | Gary Fisher Cake 2, Mavic 'X' Wheels, Avid Mechanicals and as with all my bikes, a trusty Concor Lite. | | Bottom Line: | Phenominal tire! I passed on Conti Vertical Pro's & Gravity's for these tires and there is no looking back. I couldn't be happier with this purchase. At $20 a tire from Nashbar, it makes it even more worth it. I hope these tires stay around for a long time because I never want to run a different pair. Now they need ot make them in 29'er... | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Scott
a Cross Country Rider
from Auburn, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: August 31, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | Culvert to Confluence | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$15.00 | | Purchased At: | Performance Bike | | Strengths: | Traction and Price. They hold great in most types of dirt, mud and they roll pretty quickly on pavement. And they last a long time because of hard compound. | | Weaknesses: | Roll a bit slower than other tires but they will last alot longer than faster tires with softer compounds | | Similar Products Used: | WTB tires | | Bike Setup: | Cannondale Jekyll, headshock, Fox float R, Shimano Deore Disc breaks. | | Bottom Line: | Great tires for how much I paid for them. The roll a bit slower on dirt than other tires but it doesn't seem to make a difference on pavement. The thick nobs on the tires provide excelent traction on almost any type of surface and condittion. Although they do throw alot of mud up in your face. Excelent tire would recomend for the price. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Will Zager
a Cross Country Rider
from Twin Lake, MI, USA
Date Reviewed: August 12, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | The Pipeline | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$30.00 | | Purchased At: | Bikeman | | Strengths: | Works great in the sand, grips anything and everything, looks good with the red sidewalls too. | | Weaknesses: | Honestly, I haven't found anything yet, but I've only ridden it a few times too... | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | 2007 Rockhopper, basically default | | Bottom Line: | Great tire. I asked around and narrowed it down to this and a maxxis tire. I decided on this and couldn't be happier. Alot of the soil around me is probably 90% sand. The closest trail is a motorcycle trail that is mostly sand also. Riding with the default Specialized tires on my rockhopper just wasn't cutting it. Going into the main part of the trail (the 'pipeline' it is completely sand, and can be very loose sand in alot of spots at that. While I could hammer through it with the regular Specialized tires I was actually getting a little bit of speed with the Cinder on my back wheel. Even in the harder packed dirt trails that branch off of the main one I was getting better grip. It really really showed on the hillclimbing.
I was also impressed with it's ability on the hard packed gravel (think closest you can get to being pavement without actually being pavement). Everyone was saying it was really slow on pavement or anything like that. But I didn't really notice it being that much slower.
I have nothing bad to say about this tire yet. I love it. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Christopher Krenz
a Cross Country Rider
from Stevens Point, WI, USA
Date Reviewed: July 12, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | Trail 6 - Standing Rocks - Portage County, WI | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$16.00 | | Purchased At: | JensonUSA.com | | Strengths: | Holds singletrack like a champ. Wet, dry, rocky, dirt, logs, sand, mud, you name it. I'm feelin' more confindent in my uphills and turns since I put this tire on. The best part about it is its slower than molassis in January on pavement. We don't ride pavement so it doesn't matter. The tire is average in weight. I got one with red walls to match the color scheme of my ride, so it looks decent. Go with the 2.25 inch width if you can get it. You won't regret this tire on your rear. | | Weaknesses: | None so far. | | Bike Setup: | - 2001 Trek 4500 -
Shimano Altus Crank Set
Rock Shox Jett Front Fork
ProMax Brakes (v-brakes)
AHeadset SE-1 Headset
Bontrager Crowbar Handlebars (5 degrees)
Specialized Handlebar Bar Ends
Salsa Juegos De Fuego Grips
Matrix 750 Double Walled Rims (26”)
Bontrager Jones 49/53 Front Tire(26 x 2.1)
Panaracer Cinder Rear Tire (26 x 2.25)
Selle San Marco Arami Saddle
HL Seat Post
Planet Bike Protégé 8.0 Cyclecomputer
| | Bottom Line: | If you want a great mountain bike tire for a great price, get it. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Skorky
a Cross Country Rider
from North Tahoe
Date Reviewed: July 2, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | The path to inner enlightenment | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$16.00 | | Purchased At: | Performance Bike | | Strengths: | Hooks up in just about any conditions, great match to variable "all mountain" conditions in Tahoe area (jeez I hate using that term. . .) | | Weaknesses: | T-h-e-y'r-e a b-i-t s-l-o-o-o-o-w o-n t-h-e h-a-r-d s-t-u-f-f , s-t-a-y o-f-f t-h-e p-a-v-e-m-e-n-t | | Similar Products Used: | Bontrager,Specialized,Pana FireXC Pro | | Bike Setup: | Turner 5Spot | | Bottom Line: | Tahoe is a mix of mud and snow in the spring so I thought I'd try the Cinder 225's in place of my normal 2.1 FireXC Pro. Traction was impressive in all of the spring conditions I encountered. As soon as the trails started to dry to their normal summertime rocky/sugar/dust/over hardpack conditions I thought I'd put the Fire back on the rear - big mistake. Back to back rides on a single trail proved the Cinder hooks up better for me in the rear, and it's always been impressive up front. I always loved the FireXC, but now I'm sold on the Cinder. What they lack in speed on anything hard they make up for in predictable traction in anything from mud and snow, to loose over hardpack, to rolling boulders and granite steps.
Everyone else around here seems to be hung up on the Kenda's and Schwalbe's these days, but I'll be damned if I'm going to pay $60+ for a bike tire. At the end of the ride, guess who still has beer money? And I'm rarely the last one off the trail, so what did that extra $$$ getcha? Don't worry, I'll spring for the beer. . .(again). | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Jim
a Cross Country Rider
from Auckland
Date Reviewed: June 28, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | riverhead | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$29.00 | | Purchased At: | JensonUSA | | Strengths: | Grip, confidence inspiring. Anyone who rides technical single track, esp ones that are steep and muddy with lots of tree roots like here in NZ | | Weaknesses: | ?? | | Similar Products Used: | Contis, Maxxis (Advantage), Kenda etc... I have 4 mtn bikes and am slowly replacing all other tyres with these | | Bike Setup: | Marin Rock Springs with Sram 12-34 sprocket and Q-rings, no big ring | | Bottom Line: | I ride really steep and muddy singletrack. These tyres grip so well the 34T cog has began to deform, which derails the chain on really steep climbs before the tyres will spin (crappy Shimano casette body which already wobbles doesn't help either)
I've found I can run these tyres at 20-25ibs of air for the worst conditions (really wet, muddy, rooty hiking tracks), and 35-40 ibs for hardpack and rock. Its like having two quite different tyres for different conditions just by adding/removing air - flaming fabulous. If there is anything better out there please let me know, as I haven't found it yet | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Rich
a Cross Country Rider
from Thunder Bay ON
Date Reviewed: June 7, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$29.00 | | Strengths: | Grips everything, does not pack up with mud, quiet on all surfaces, tough sidewalls, easy to mount and a good wearing tire. Do we need any more? | | Weaknesses: | A little slow on pavement but there are not made for road riding. | | Similar Products Used: | Fire Xc's and Bontrager Corvairs | | Bike Setup: | 03' Dakar XC Pro with 2.1's | | Bottom Line: | The best tire I've used thus far, bar none. My Fire Xc's had less traction, were noisier, weaker sidewalls, and wore quite a bit faster and those were rated quite high on this site The Cinder's are a far superior tire. Try them you'll love them. If there better for 99 per cent of my riding I have not tried it yet. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Brian
a Cross Country Rider
from Lakewood, CO
Date Reviewed: May 13, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | White Ranch | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$20.00 | | Purchased At: | Performance Bicycle | | < |
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