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Core Rat Battle Shorts

Average Rating 4.74/5
# of Reviews 99
MSRP $ 60.00
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Description:
  • 500 Denier Nylon Cordura lined overshort
  • Durable poly mesh ventillated sides
  • Black with choice of red, green,blue, yellow, or black side stripe
  • "No seams where it counts" boxer cut crotch
  • Deep front pockets,single rear pocket with velcro closure
  • Elastisized waist for comfort Compatible with Core Rat Hip Pads
  • Sizes available: S-M-L-XL





  • Submitted by Dave a Weekend Warrior from Richmond, VA
    Date Reviewed: December 22, 2007
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Price Paid: $95.00
    Purchased At:direct from Angie
    Strengths:Extremely tough.
    Weaknesses:hot, heavy
    Similar Products Used:lots
    Bottom Line:This review is for the 3/4 length. I use them when working the the brambles in my back yard - they just bounce off. Crashed on these shorts without leaving a mark.
    Value Rating:4Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Martin a Weekend Warrior from Fernie, B.C.
    Date Reviewed: November 1, 2007
    Duration Product Used:More than 3 years
    Purchased At:Georges Cycle Edmonton
    Strengths:Durable
    Weaknesses:Weird fit, limited breathability, feels like you are wearing cardboard
    Similar Products Used:Azonic, Fox, Oakley in DH shorts, Sugoi, Fox, Oakley, LouisGarneau, Zoic in Trail baggies
    Bottom Line:Had to post after seeing that these won MTBRs "Best of" Award again. These are sort of okay shorts, not even close to great ones, I don't even know if they are still around but I have to say in my somewhat excessive collection of shorts these are at the bottom of the pile. They are very sweaty, the mesh on the sides gets caught and rips relatively easily, they fit way to restrictively in the crotch area (granted being that they are hand made there can be errors, but I tried another set made later than mine and they were the same) and the noise they make while riding, it's worse than those cheap Czech corduroy pants my mom used to buy for me when I was 8. There are sooo many shorts better than these, they aren't bad enough to get 1 chili - the durability and quality of stitching should count for something I guess. If you miss Eastern Bloc Communism and want something that lacks technology and style and is solely utilitarian buy these.
    Value Rating:2Overall Rating:2

    Submitted by Steve Marshall a Weekend Warrior from Steamboat Springs, USA
    Date Reviewed: March 24, 2007
    Favoriate Trail:Every single one of them
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Price Paid: $100.00
    Purchased At:Core Rat
    Strengths:Quality of construction, materials used, and design.
    Weaknesses:None.
    Similar Products Used:None
    Bike Setup:2005 Turner 5 Spot, RS 140 Pike Coil, PUSH'ed Fox DHX5.0 Coil, XTR/XT components, Saint Hubs laced to Mavic 819's, Maxxis 2.5 HR DH rubber, XT 203 rotors and XT calipers, Goodridge brake lines and pads, FSA DH Carbon bars, Gravity Dropper Turbo seatpost, WTB Lazer V Team DH saddle, Crank Brothers Mallet pedals, King Headset, FSA Mega Exo Carbon crankset.
    Bottom Line:My second set of Battle Shorts from Angie - this time I told her that the Large were slightly too big and the Medium would be too small, so she suggested a novel idea - she would make them custom for me.

    They arrived and I wore them for the first time last Sunday in Fruita - perfect fit.

    I cannot say enough good things about this product and Angie's personalized service.

    Another way of looking at these shorts is you get what you pay for - most shorts of this type sell in the $70 range but they don't compare in terms of durability and quality, plus who knows who the President/Owner of Fox, RockGardn, Six-Six-One is? And can you talk to them about their products?
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Steve Marshall a Weekend Warrior from Steamboat Springs, CO USA
    Date Reviewed: October 13, 2006
    Favoriate Trail:All of them
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Price Paid: $99.00
    Purchased At:CoreRat.com
    Strengths:Quality of stitching, thoughtfulness of design (Angie must ride a bike!), utility - pockets, nice fit, and those valuable hip pads.
    Weaknesses:None that I can see yet.
    Similar Products Used:Only have worn lycra for 30 years.
    Bike Setup:2005 Turner 5 Spot with '07 Talas 140, RP23, XT and XTR component mix, Mavic 819 Rims, Thomson seatpost & stem, FSA DH riser bars, etc.
    Bottom Line:This is my first pair of baggies after being a die hard lycra wearer for 30 years. I researched quite a bit before buying - there seemed to be no choice but to buy these because there were so many satisfied users.

    I have avoided baggies for many years as I was afraid of getting hung up on the seat if I had to slide backwards for a drop - not a problem here - they move easily without snagging.

    Just got back from Moab and two days of riding on Poison Spider and Porcupine Rim. I hit the ground a few times attempting some up and over moves on rock - the hip pads are well worth the extra $15 to get them with your shorts.

    Outstanding product. Angie is also great to communicate with by email and phone - imagine that - she answers her own phone!
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Craig a Cross Country Rider from Toronto Canada
    Date Reviewed: September 29, 2006
    Duration Product Used:More than 3 years
    Purchased At:Angie direct
    Strengths:Everything!! best I have ever owned
    Weaknesses:None after over 3 years use
    Similar Products Used:Oakley, raceface
    Bottom Line:Angie is great....Love her stuff...once you try it you'll never switch...just ordered more stuff..can't wait!!!!!
    Thanks ANGIE!
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Clark a from Squamish, BC, Canada
    Date Reviewed: June 11, 2006
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Price Paid: $100.00
    Purchased At:direct from angie
    Strengths:tuff material, impeccable sewing and finish, good fit.
    Weaknesses:none
    Similar Products Used:Core Rat DH pants (3 years old and still like new)
    Bottom Line:New West Coast design, full length shorts. Fit much tighter than older battle shorts, but cut perfectly for riding position with no extra bagginess. not so tight that you look like a dork though. real comfy. solid construction and finish, as always. i know these will last years and are worth the $$. plus all materials sourced from north america and hand-made in canada 100% by owner, who's a better rider than you are. buy some!
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by David a Weekend Warrior from Boston, Mass USA
    Date Reviewed: April 14, 2006
    Favoriate Trail:Lynn Woods
    Duration Product Used:2 Years
    Price Paid: $60.00
    Purchased At:core rat
    Strengths:The material seems tuff.
    Weaknesses:I hate the fit. The leg oppenings are very big. I found that out the first time I was going down something really steep. I got back behind the seat to go down, and could not get back up on my seat because it was caught up in the leg oppening. I have to crank the belt tighter than I would prefer to keep them up aroung my waist. I bought em because of the reviews on this board. I used em twice and threw em in my gear bag. I keep meaning to put em out on Ebay. Maybe its just me, but I dont like the look or the fit or the leg opening.
    Similar Products Used:fox, azonic
    Bike Setup:Turner Six Pack
    Bottom Line:Un-useable for me. Like the other poster said......I tend to wonder if all these great reviews are friends of this Angie person.
    Value Rating:1Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by mike a Downhiller from ephrata, wa.
    Date Reviewed: April 8, 2006
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Price Paid: $170.00
    Purchased At:from core rat
    Strengths:unbelievalbly glowing reviews on mtbr!
    Weaknesses:everything else
    Similar Products Used:bellweather-roach-performance-zoic-levis
    Bottom Line:this is a final review. i would just send these things back but why waste the time? How can the reviews for these shorts be soo perfect? both pairs that i bought are complete garbage! the stitching has come apart all over the place. the"hook and loop" doesn't velcro any more. the straps that link the tri-glides don't stay. my roach shorts after 5 years finally needed some attention so i bought the core rats. I bought them cause of the reviews. and when i had problems with them right away angie blew me off and basicly told me the warranty she gives is only for stuff thats never been worn.
    one thing tho- it looks like shes got lots of friends that like to write mtbr reviews
    Value Rating:1Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by Fred a Cross Country Rider from Whistler
    Date Reviewed: November 22, 2005
    Favoriate Trail:something long and technical
    Duration Product Used:2 Years
    Price Paid: $90.00
    Purchased At:on-line from www.corerat.com
    Strengths:the best pair of shorts I have even owned - through two years of solid abuse, no rips, tears, or wearing through. the more you wash them, the softer and more comfy they get. I updated this summer to the full-length shorts (originals were the shorter legs) and love them. they come down to my knee pads, and protect the thighs from branches and scrapes with passing trees and sticks. great quality. the side vents work great, and for the amount of coverage, these are pretty cool when wearing them. I wear a pair of light chamois stretch shorts under these and have comfort and protection. lots of pockets, adjustable waist with secure clips, and a cut that does not chafe, get in the way, or hook on the seat back on the steeps

    got the first pair as a gift and went back for more.
    Weaknesses:none - maybe if you are looking for something to pick on, they can be a bit warm on real hot days - but I understand Angie has come out with some lighter ones - so if you want something cooler, go for those
    Similar Products Used:tried a bunch of different shorts, and tore, ripped, was left hanging out of, or otherwise ate them up
    Bike Setup:Giant Reign 1 freeride
    Bottom Line:where to start? value , quality, durability, personal service, lots of color choices - all beyond any I have had. a pair of shorts you will have to go ballistic on to destroy. made by a small business with GREAT customer service, and unlike any other product on the market. I have the original pair and now the longer ones as well. washed them skidded on them, and smacked them off all sorts of objects – and they still look great.

    when you add in the made in north america (Canada eh) and the fact there are no sweat shops or overseas materials involved, this is a pretty solid purchase that makes sense on any front. the worst part of my experience with these shorts is I will probably end up buying the lighter versions as well – for a fleet of three! the corerat products rock

    buy them and get riding!
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Bawitdaba a Downhiller from Pine Plains
    Date Reviewed: October 2, 2005
    Favoriate Trail:Anything on Whiteface
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Price Paid: $59.00
    Purchased At:right from Angie
    Strengths:Hard core gear for hard core riders...
    They run a little big which makes them quite roomy and comfy, but not sloppy. At Angies recomendation I got the extra long (I'm 6'-2", 36" inseam) and I'm glad I did. The shorts cover my knees and they don't hang up on the tops of my leg armor. Very well built, tough, heavy and protective. If you should have the misfortune of going down or doing any butt surfing (which I'm really good at)you don't have to worry about these shorts ripping and/or burning through, allowing the shale and stuff into your flesh.
    Weaknesses:Not to many color selections.
    Similar Products Used:Different bike and cargo shorts...
    Bike Setup:Time for the end of the season new bike for next year...
    Bottom Line:I use these as an outer short over my bike shorts and I'm quite happy with the performance. These shorts would be best for folks who ride hard or extreme and may be exposed to going down hard or on sharp stuff. Keep in mind that they are primarily a protective gear.
    Another bonus-keep in mind that her site prices are in Canadian Bux. I'm looking forward to Angie's new line coming out because I will get some more stuff for next year.
    Remember, Angie is an acomplished rider herself, so she has a real good feel for what we need and what works.

    FIVE WELL DESERVED FLAMIN TURDS...
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by rick williams a Downhiller from BC
    Date Reviewed: August 26, 2005
    Favoriate Trail:Seventh Secret
    Duration Product Used:More than 3 years
    Price Paid: $90.00
    Purchased At:Squamish
    Strengths:Durable, comfortable, well padded
    Weaknesses:AMedium size is a little large for a 34 inch waist
    Similar Products Used:Roach
    Bike Setup:Kona Stinky Delux
    Bottom Line:Excellent product, on my 3rd pair. I like to have an extra pair and my first pair has been well used.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Bill a Weekend Warrior from Idaho
    Date Reviewed: July 18, 2005
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Purchased At:Angie @ Core Rat
    Strengths:Burly material and construction. Look good. Big pockets. Withstands gnarly crashes. Comfy offset belt cinchers. They fit well.
    Weaknesses:None when used as intended.
    Similar Products Used:Other overshorts with less room for pads.
    Bottom Line:These aren't for XC. The cut doesn't lend itself to prolonged seated climbing. But that's okay because they're for FR/DH use, and they rock the casbah. They're some burly sonafabeatches. Buy em.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by mike a Downhiller from ephrata,wa. usa
    Date Reviewed: June 22, 2005
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Price Paid: $170.00
    Purchased At:corerat
    Strengths:some good materials
    Weaknesses:-inseam stitching came loose after 2 washings. ambiguous warranty.
    Similar Products Used:roach-fox
    Bike Setup:02 stinky primo(now with the popular cracked frame), rohloff hub, avalanche dhf ti, misc. atom lab azonic
    Bottom Line:the problem with these shorts are with the way the warranty is written. I bought 2 pair.The regular battle fit fine and I like them ok, but the inseam came apart. No big deal. The other pair were the cargo shorts. And they fit real bad. I wore them on one ride thinking maybe I could do some adjusting or something to make them fit better. No luck.
    Washed them up an sent them back. This is the warranty return info-We warranty our products provided they have not been worn
    outdoors more than once, are returned in clean condition,
    and are returned within 30 days of purchase. Products may
    be exchanged or returned for refund, no questions asked, if
    the item is in new condition and has not been worn outside."
    Does this warranty mean they only warranty thier stuff if you only wear it one time or what. I give up.
    Value Rating:3Overall Rating:1

    Submitted by Andrew M a from Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Date Reviewed: May 24, 2005
    Favoriate Trail:All of them
    Duration Product Used:2 Years
    Purchased At:Direct from Angie
    Strengths:After two years they look brand new.
    Weaknesses:A little hot in the middle of august when compared to the bathing suits other companies are marketing as freeride shorts.
    Similar Products Used:Fox (for "overshorts"), Sombrio, Sugoi, Kona
    Bottom Line:I spent two years riding the same pair of long battle shorts on every ride. Despite repeated washings, more then a few crashes, and general neglect they looked brand new. I have to use past tense here because a couple weeks ago I lost them somewhere between the trail and the pub. If I hadn't, I'm pretty sure they would have outlived me.

    Long story short, I e-mailed Angie and ordered two pairs to replace the ones I lost. One pair of long shorts with cargo pockets, and one pair of regular length battle shorts.

    At this point all I can say about the new shorts is they look sweet and they fit awesome, but if they are anything like my last pair they'll be the last shorts I buy (again).



    P.S. I've found the best thing to wear under Angie's shorts is a basic chamois/liner rather then a pair of full on lycra shorts. You'll get way less sack-sweat and I've found the combo to be as comfortable as a lot of other shorts on the market while offering way more protection.

    ARM
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by p kenney a Cross Country Rider from Osawano, Japan
    Date Reviewed: April 1, 2005
    Favoriate Trail:no name
    Duration Product Used:2 Years
    Purchased At:60
    Strengths:Well built, the padding on the hips are a plus as well.
    Weaknesses:Sags when I walk...the belt system may need to be redesigned. (This may have been addressed as I haven't seen a recent version of these over shorts.) I'll add that this isn't a problem when riding. The shorts are made for riding so this is where it counts!
    Similar Products Used:various
    Bike Setup:Not important
    Bottom Line:This will be my third year wearing these (over) shorts and I'd buy another if these fell apart. I've had my share of smacking into the ground and these shorts have held up to it all, no dents or scratches. Even a slide on the asphalt to avoid a fallen rider in front of me produced no torn skin and no bruises (I use the hip pads). In the summers which are hot and humid here, I continue to wear these shorts for the protection, in the fall and spring they are perfect. Thanks angie...
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Michael Staples a from Sonoma
    Date Reviewed: December 21, 2004
    Favoriate Trail:Lawndale to rough Go
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Price Paid: $90.00
    Purchased At:Core Rat
    Strengths:Well built. Look great.
    Weaknesses:It's an OVERSHORT.
    Similar Products Used:Nema Crown Jewel
    Bike Setup:Kona Caldera. Race Face bashring. 2.5 tires. Good for trials.
    Bottom Line:When I bought these I didn't know they were an Over short ment to be work over lycra padded shorts. so I was surprised to see no built-in pad. I guess these are good for wearing over the kind of armour you use for downhill or freeride. Still, I like the a lot. They are built really well. I have a pair of Crown Jewels I never got along with. Bought these as a replacement -- which they aren't, really. If you are looking for an over short. I highly recommend these, even though they are pretty expensive. combine these with a good set of lycras and you have around $200 covering your butt. But I don't think it is possible to ever wear these out.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Jimbo a Downhiller from London, UK
    Date Reviewed: November 15, 2004
    Favoriate Trail:Couple of belters in Big Sur, CA.
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Price Paid: $60.00
    Purchased At:Core Rat, from Angie.
    Strengths:Look great, feel great, ride great. Dry out in no time, clean easy, loads of room in the leg yet a great fit around the butt and the rest (you know what I mean). My only grumble is to ask why on earth these serious riding shorts have hip pockets (no bad thing) yet the lighter use cammo versions don't?
    Weaknesses:none yet, but others seem to find the velcro goes in the end. i'm still waiting...
    Similar Products Used:Airwalk, Fox
    Bottom Line:These are great shorts, and they look fantastic too. Moreover, the little firm making them is cool, and isn't some horrific corp, so get on there.
    Value Rating:4Overall Rating:4

    Submitted by Bill a Weekend Warrior from Vancouver
    Date Reviewed: September 6, 2004
    Duration Product Used:2 Years
    Strengths:Excellent protection.
    Weaknesses:Stitching fails after a year or so.
    Bottom Line:Loved these shorts until the velco closures started coming off. Seems to be a common problem.
    Value Rating:3Overall Rating:3

    Submitted by Ken Empey a from Michigan
    Date Reviewed: August 20, 2004
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Price Paid: $60.00
    Purchased At:Core Rat
    Strengths:Tough (these will outlast my useful life!). Comfortable on and off the bike. I've tried on many shorts, and these are the first that actually fit comfortably, especially while riding. I was reluctant to buy shorts without a chance to try them on first, but took a chance based on all the (+) reviews.
    Weaknesses:The weight of the material is on the heavy side, and some lighter weight versions might be a thought. But not a big deal---just know these shorts will not wear out.
    Similar Products Used:Cannondale, Lycra
    Bike Setup:Giant Iguana
    Bottom Line:Everything you've read in these reviews appears to be true! After reading all this reviews, I felt I knew Angie before I spoke with her. Very responsive. Received only a few days after placing the order, even in spite of the distance involved. The US-Canadian exchange rate is another nice feature of these shorts. If you're in the market for shorts, these are the ones to invest in.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by David Maxfield a Downhiller from South Dakota
    Date Reviewed: August 5, 2004
    Favoriate Trail:Spearfish Canyon
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Price Paid: $90.00
    Purchased At:At Angie's website
    Strengths:I bought two pairs--one for me and one for my nephew. These shorts are the perfect mix of comfort, function, and style. Angie does excellent work. My wife does a lot of sewing, and gives these very high marks.
    Weaknesses:No weakness
    Similar Products Used:Tomac Shorts, Sugoi Shorts, Fox Shorts, Roach Shorts
    Bike Setup:Off road unicycles: Kris Holm and Telford
    Bottom Line:These are the best shorts I've used.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Scott P. a Downhiller from Saskatoon, Sask. Canada
    Date Reviewed: July 22, 2004
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Price Paid: $75.00
    Purchased At:Online from corerat.com
    Strengths:High quality materials and workmanship just like everything else from there. Needed it in a rush and received it (with extra customizations I requested so it wasn't just straight off the shelf) in under two days from 3 provinces away. Great customer service.
    Weaknesses:None - super tough stuff
    Similar Products Used:Roach and Mace shorts. Nothing wrong with Mace stuff - avoid Roach clothes like the plague (but they make nice shin guards so that's something).
    Bike Setup:03 Norco 4by with various drivetrain and suspension mods.
    Bottom Line:Buy Corerat. Now.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by erick a Cross Country Rider from Tacoma
    Date Reviewed: July 17, 2004
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Price Paid: $70.00
    Purchased At:corerat.com
    Strengths:Durable materials and durable craftmanship. Handmade products tend to wear better than mass-produced items. Nice choice of nylon for strength and abrasion resistence. They are comfortable and dont get caught on the seat lip. They run a bit large.
    Weaknesses:I've lost to much weight so I have to buy smaller pair.
    Similar Products Used:Roach Indy (has that mass-produced feel to it, but a good product too)
    Bike Setup:GSR DH HT built for speed.
    Bottom Line:Great product and functions as well or better than expected. Super-fast shipping from Corerat.com. Quality that will last, worth the price of admission.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by William March a Cross Country Rider from Chandler, Az.
    Date Reviewed: June 16, 2004
    Favoriate Trail:Desert Classic
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Price Paid: $82.00
    Purchased At:Core Rat
    Strengths:Very comfortable wear like iron
    Weaknesses:No pad
    Similar Products Used:Fox racing Pearl Izumi
    Bike Setup:Santa Cruz Superlight fizk seat E70 post fox dual supension
    Bottom Line:I wear the pants, hip pats, and fore arm protectors. Riding back in with blood runing down your arms and stepping into the shower awaiting the water to hit those abrasions is not my idear of fun. There are other products that will give the same protection but not with the comfort this product gives. I would rate customer satisfaction as superior.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Jason a Weekend Warrior from Sacramento
    Date Reviewed: November 17, 2003
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Price Paid: $70.00
    Purchased At:www.corerat.com
    Strengths:Cordurability
    Similar Products Used:Cannondale, P.I. etc.
    Bike Setup:Marble Peak, xtr, selle italia saddle
    Bottom Line:Just got these in the mail. Only took two days. I've waited longer in line at La Bou. Handmade quality that can't be beat. Angie even added a little extra velcro just in case I needed it. The reviews here said they ran large and I tend to be one of those poeple who are continually in between sizes. I wrote her an email and she answered the same day. Thanks for that... I don't really see how these things could wear out. They don't hang up on the seat thanks to some pretty good engineering and they look good too. My one complaint might be that they are a little stiff at the waist but I'm sure that will soften up after a little wash and wear. As a friend told me once "We can't afford to buy cheap products." You can buy something else but you'll just end up spending more in order to get this kind of quality. Overall, this is a superior product.
    Value Rating:4Overall Rating:4

    Submitted by Don a Cross Country Rider from socal
    Date Reviewed: September 24, 2003
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Price Paid: $100.00
    Purchased At:Core Rat direct
    Strengths:Functional design.
    High quality materials and construction.
    First rate customer service and FAST shipping.
    Weaknesses:none observed
    Similar Products Used:Lycra cycling shorts.
    Mt. Borah Sawtooth baggie shorts.
    Bottom Line:I went looking for overshorts because I kept tearing up expensive lycra shorts with my involuntary dismounts. I ordered the Core Rats based just on the MTBR reviews and the CR website. Wish I had seen these before getting the Mt. Borah baggies, as overshorts over lycra is the way to go.

    From reading some of the reviews here I was concerned that the sizing ran large, but the mediums fit perfectly on my average build and 33"-34" waist, per the sizing chart. And they aren't cut so cycling specific that I could't hike in them or drive to the trailhead.

    Don't forget to order the Hip Pads ($10 CDN), as the velcro attachments are already in the shorts. I did forget the pads and e-mailed Angie, who promptly put a set in the mail.

    That's the other nice thing is dealing directly with Angie herself and getting that great customer service that's missing from most transactions today. This is a company that makes you look for reasons to like their products.

    I wish I could say these shorts have already saved me from some horrific injury, but I've only had them a couple of days. However their quality is obvious and I know they will do the job. Thanks Angie.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Tyron a Weekend Warrior from Oakville, Ontario, Canada
    Date Reviewed: September 18, 2003
    Duration Product Used:More than 3 years
    Price Paid: $60.00
    Purchased At:www.corerat.com
    Strengths:-durable, well built, good material selection
    -simple long-lasting design
    -solid protection from falls and other outdoor debris (bushwhacking during adventure races)
    -comfortable enough for all types of sporting activities
    -I bought my first pair over 3 years ago and there are very little signs of wear. And even then, these shorts are worth repairing.
    Weaknesses:My first BattleShort purchase was 3 years but I just purchased 2 more pairs so my comments will focus on my first pair.
    - The original shorts used a single compression strap on the waist to adjust the waist size. I feel this caused the shorts to be slightly off-centre if you weren't the right waist size. The new design uses two compression straps on the waist which solves this problem.
    - The shorts use velcro instead of a zipper. The velcro wore out after a year so I replaced it with a zipper and they are still going strong.
    -they can be very warm and heavy. But I wouldn't trade breathability and weight for durability and design.
    -I ordered based on the waist size, which was a mistake. I normally wear 38x30 pants so I purchased he XL's which have a 38" waist. I ended up returning them for a Mediums which have a 32-34" waist and they fit perfectly. They have about an extra 1" stretch in the waist. I prefer the Medium measurements as well and would have still ordered that size and adjusted the waist size myself.
    Bike Setup:3 yr old Kona Cinder Cone - pretty much stock.
    Bottom Line:I've seen other product brands that I like but once I tried them on they didn't compare. I just bought two more pairs of BattleShorts and I know I'm going to be just as happy with these as I was with my first purchase three years ago.

    I'm from Ontario so I don't do the type of downhill biking they do out in BC or other mountainous regions. But I do some adventure racing and these shorts are great for trail running, bushwhacking, paddling, and of course, mountain biking. There is very little reason for me to buy a specialized pair of shorts again.

    The customer service is great since you actually get to email Angie, designer and owner, directly.

    I'll never buy another pair of shorts again. Well, maybe one more pair to sleep in and two more pairs for work.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by trail toad a Cross Country Rider from A 2
    Date Reviewed: September 5, 2003
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Purchased At:core rat direct
    Strengths:Like the pants the construction is great. they fit like a bike short should. they ride like a short should.
    Weaknesses:none so far
    Similar Products Used:too many to name
    Bike Setup:the toad is a truth with heavy duty componets.
    Bottom Line:I ride trails,,,, the more difficult the better. The tougher the climb i.e. steep,rocky,rutted,logs and full of roots, the down hills the same. I wanted a short to fit so well that I didn't have to think about them getting hung up or slip around or rub me raw after two to three hours of trail riding. You can push the bike around anywhere and these shorts don't flinch. Slide off your saddle for a big drop and no snaggs when you finsh up at the bottom. They just disapear. If you tired of riding over a big log and having your crappy baggys hooking your seat or those thin spandix snagging ever stick or thorn bush get these shorts. angie makes great stuff. nuf said.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Don a Cross Country Rider from NH
    Date Reviewed: August 23, 2003
    Favoriate Trail:they're all good
    Duration Product Used:2 Years
    Purchased At:Core Rat
    Strengths:Very durable, excellent cycling design, ability to use the hip pads if you choose.
    Weaknesses:none
    Similar Products Used:Fox, Nema, Sugoi, Pearl, Oakley
    Bottom Line:The shorts just work. The cordura fabric is tough as nails and wears forever. If these get torn the shorts will be the least of your concerns. The design features work for cycling. The gusset on the bottom so you don't get hung up on the saddle, velcro fly and closure, and the adjustable side tabs keep these shorts simple and functional. I've had two pairs of battle shorts for two years and I just bought two pairs of the longer cargo shorts. Flawless.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Robert Starling a Weekend Warrior from Orlando
    Date Reviewed: July 17, 2003
    Favoriate Trail:Anyplace other than work
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Purchased At:Direct from Core-Rat
    Strengths:Hand crafted by a human not a machine in China. Great style, tough as nails, great details in the sewing that don't show but do make a difference. Great customer service!
    Weaknesses:A little heavy duty and a little warm for riding here in Florida
    Similar Products Used:Various
    Bike Setup:Santa Cruz Blur Disc
    Bottom Line:I highly recommend these shorts. If I could get a pair in just a slightly lighter weight fabric it would be great. I washed these about ten times just to soften them up a bit.

    Angie (owner) is great to work with and very prompt. Nice to work with the owner / designer of a small company. She's a rider as well. It all adds up to a great product and great service.

    I also purchased one of her orange mesh jerseys and absolutely love it. You should check out her website for yourself.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Jess a Cross Country Rider from Maryland, USA
    Date Reviewed: July 10, 2003
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Price Paid: $90.00
    Purchased At:Corerat.com
    Strengths:I've only rode them once, but man do they fit well. I got the long battle shorts...and if you're 6'4 like me, you're always looking for longer shorts. These shorts have perfect length. Comfy comfy comfy.
    Weaknesses:-Fits weird when your not on a bike. ( if this upsets you, then think of why you bought them)

    -Doesn't have one of those padded diaper thingies.
    Similar Products Used:Zoic - Crap
    Bike Setup:Homebuilt. Supergo frame, zocchi z3, little raceface, little lx,xt,xtr.. and a touch of time and s-works.
    Bottom Line:Very well built. When you're standing, they feel like you dumped in your shorts. When you're riding, they feel so natural. Nice deep pockets for keys, etc. Fits the tall folks well.

    Incredible customer service