Submitted by
Mike
a Cross Country Rider
from Monroe, NJ
Date Reviewed: 10/8/2004 11:46:51 AM
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| FavoriteTrail: |
all |
| Duration Product Used: |
3 months |
| Price Paid: |
$35 |
| Purchased At: |
Universal |
| Strengths: |
Comfortable. Durable. |
| Weaknesses: |
A little heavy. Have to set seat WAY back for proper positioning. |
| Similar Products Tried: |
Love seat (too wide). Various Italian seats (look nice, feel terrible). Brooks (no, they don't 'break in' after 1000 miles). |
| Bike Setup: |
Currently? Cove Stiffee w/Sherman Firefly. |
| Bottom Line: |
Of the many saddles I've tried over the years, I find this to be the most transparent. Seat is long, not that wide, and generously padded. Comfy from day one. Looks good, too. No complaints so far. Will see how the rails hold up, but I weigh 185 and have been thrashing it pretty hard. Had to position the seat as far back on seatpost as possible to get good seating position. No setback on Thompson post.
Tried a Love Seat but it was pretty awful. Too wide. |
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Submitted by
Dave Davies
a Weekend Warrior
from Auckland, New Zealand
Date Reviewed: 1/5/2004 3:13:10 PM
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| FavoriteTrail: |
Big Mummah |
| Duration Product Used: |
Less than 1 month |
| Price Paid: |
$80 |
| Purchased At: |
Bike Barn |
| Strengths: |
Really comfortable seat good strong kevlar fabric. Firm but no discomfort at all. |
| Weaknesses: |
the Rails and Azonics (oneal) warrantee department. |
| Similar Products Tried: |
The saddle that came on my Kona Kahuna, the saddle that came on my 04Specialized Bighit and $5 Thompson Comp. |
| Bike Setup: |
The saddle was on my 03 Kona Kahuna, currently riding a 04 Specialized Bighit Comp |
| Bottom Line: |
Oneals warrantee department flatly refused to replace the seat when one of the rails bent after 2 rides. They refused to accept that there could by something wrong with the manufacture or material without even seeing the saddle and eventually just stopped replying to my Emails. Thier 1st 2 emails said that they would replace the seat no problem and then when the wholesaler went back to them to get the replacement Rich Walsh refused it. I replaced the seat with a $5 Thompson Comp out of the bargain bin at my local bike shop and it has been totally fine for months. This seat is really good if the rails dont bend, I know people who ride them in downhill competition and they have had no problem but if you are lookign for any after support after Oneal have got your money off you then you will be out of luck.
I found that the 2 times that I got to ride this saddel that it was very firm but soooooo comfortable, didnt get sore at all. I really would like another one of these but I wont spend that kind of money again for fear it will fail again and I wont get any support from them again. |
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Submitted by
Travis McSorley
a Downhiller
from Klamath Falls, OR, United States
Date Reviewed: 11/30/2003 3:39:44 PM
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| FavoriteTrail: |
Cradle to the Grave |
| Duration Product Used: |
3 months |
| Price Paid: |
$45 |
| Purchased At: |
cambriabike |
| Strengths: |
Comfortable without being cumbersome, STRONG chromoly 8mm rails, reasonable price, durable Kevlar/Armortex cover, looks sweet. |
| Weaknesses: |
You might have fitment problems with seatposts not intended for larger 8 or 9mm seat rails. |
| Similar Products Tried: |
WTB, Azonic, Selle Italia. |
| Bike Setup: |
1998 Raleigh M7500i, Jr. T, Vanilla RC, XT/LX, Sun Mammoth, WTB MotoRaptor 2.4, Diabolus stem, bar, and post, Azonic saddle, Real Seal DH headset, M646 pedals. |
| Bottom Line: |
I've had this seat for over four months and nothing is wrong with it except the logo is starting to wear off, which has happened on every seat I've had. I can't believe the overall rating posted here. I feel this is an artificially low rating. If you disregard a few really negative reviews from some extremely abusive and/or irresponsible riders and the overall rating would be much higher.
Fellas, if you weigh 200+ pounds and are jumping off the roof of your house, things are going to break or bend. No company is going to guarantee their products for that kind of abuse; you should feel lucky they are offering to replace your rails with chromoly kit. I weigh 155 pounds and regularly do 6 to 8 feet vertical drops and haven't had any problems with my seat. Bottom line: this is a great seat that has gotten a bad rap. |
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Submitted by
sean allen
a Downhiller
from california
Date Reviewed: 11/8/2003 8:26:13 PM
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| Duration Product Used: |
6 months |
| Price Paid: |
$49 |
| Purchased At: |
local shop |
| Strengths: |
the hole seat is an A+, everything about it is good. |
| Weaknesses: |
i really havent found any weeknesses about this seat. i dont know what you area ll talking about how the rails bend and such i have had this seat for over 5 months and the rails are fine and the only thing wrong with it is the back part is ripped becasue i fell on it. |
| Bike Setup: |
Giant ETC Se 1, hayes hydro's, marzocchi Z-1 drop off, Sun Rims ryno lites, azonic bar, azonic stem, ODI lock on, race face DH cranks, race face bash gaurd. |
| Bottom Line: |
the bottom line is this seat is awsome i have had no troubles with it in 5 or so months and its on a hard tail which get thrown around almost everyday. |
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Submitted by
Blake Roberts
a Downhiller
from Mattapoisett, MA
Date Reviewed: 8/27/2003 3:50:46 PM
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| FavoriteTrail: |
XXX |
| Duration Product Used: |
Less than 1 month |
| Price Paid: |
$40 |
| Purchased At: |
pricepoint |
| Strengths: |
Great for Freeriding and Downhilling. Suprisingly comfortable for the size. easier to steer the bike when downhilling (you can really grip this w/ the legs). |
| Weaknesses: |
STEEL RAILS!!!! Very Bad, and the manufacturer now knows this. |
| Similar Products Tried: |
Connex |
| Bike Setup: |
Iron Horse Expert. aftermarket parts in the Sherman Breakout. |
| Bottom Line: |
The seat is sweet, but you absolutely must get the new chromoly rails. Most of them on the market are steel rails and the difference is huge.The first day I used this was for a day of downhilling, dropped of a 3 footer amd the rails completely buckled upwards and bent sideways. It really sucked, because it was now junk after 6 hours of use. Called Azonic and they said they are now upgrading all these seats to the chromoly rails, so DO NOT GET THE STEEL RAILS!
Good news, I called Azonic and they told me to send them the seat and they would install new chromoly rails, or give me a new one with the chrmoly rails already in place.
***Value rating will be based on the Chromoly rails!!!!! |
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Submitted by
Jim
a Downhiller
from Scotland
Date Reviewed: 7/24/2003 5:20:52 PM
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| Duration Product Used: |
1 Year |
| Price Paid: |
$70 |
| Purchased At: |
Some shop or other |
| Strengths: |
Decent strong saddles with enough padding in the right place. |
| Weaknesses: |
Sometimes uncomfortable first thing in the morning but thats probably more to do with me. |
| Similar Products Tried: |
Loads of stuff |
| Bike Setup: |
Santa Cruz Chameleon, Shiver SCs, Race Face widgets. |
| Bottom Line: |
I originally bought the Azonic one, after seeing it in a couple of mags, figured out the stupid looking oval rails dont fit in a Race Face XY seatpost (by looking at the clamp, not by trying to wedge an oval peg in a round hole, like someone on here did), went back the the bike shop, which I work for, and switched it for the Setlaz version (off of a factory spec Norco Drop). Its exactly the same saddle, made by the same people, only the setlaz one has standard chromoly rails, thank god I did. I do lots of 5-6 foot drops onto flat concrete, packs of stairs, few gaps, off road, on road, commute. Ive stacked it on gravel dirt grass concrete everything. All Ive got is a scuff in the kevlar the writings come off.
To all you people who snapped there dumb ass alu rails, ask Azonic to give you one from the people who actually make the bulk of it before its been Azonified....people who want the big AZONIC sticker will have to stand permanantly while cycleing. My score is only valid if you can get yourself a chromoly railed one. |
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Submitted by
Fat A$$ Complex
from East Coast
Date Reviewed: 5/21/2003 4:37:10 PM
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| FavoriteTrail: |
Lynn Woods |
| Duration Product Used: |
Less than 1 month |
| Price Paid: |
$40 |
| Purchased At: |
Pricepoint |
| Strengths: |
Azonic makes it sound like a bombproof product...Marketing |
| Weaknesses: |
Nothing new here...rails suck |
| Similar Products Tried: |
Other seats that weren't as comfortable, but lasted |
| Bike Setup: |
Bullit with a lot of reflectors |
| Bottom Line: |
Looks good in the pictures, but it gave me a complex about getting a fat a$$ over the winter like the chicks here, but my riding shorts still fit from last season. Never knew it was so easy to bend 8mm rails and my tires have only been a few feet off the ground...Should have spent the $40 on a$$ padding and put my old flight saddle on...I'm a sucker and fell victim to their marketing...boohoo |
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Submitted by
Fuzh yo
a Weekend Warrior
from Russia, Moscow
Date Reviewed: 3/2/2003 2:25:30 PM
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| Duration Product Used: |
3 months |
| Price Paid: |
$20 |
| Purchased At: |
friend |
| Strengths: |
looks and fits very cool! |
| Weaknesses: |
stupid and VERY week ALU rails |
| Similar Products Tried: |
cheap saddles |
| Bike Setup: |
triatlon 16", rst delta xl.. |
| Bottom Line: |
the design of the seat is perfect! look very nice! But ALU rails suc ks.. Waiting for answer from Azonic, i dont want to chage the seat, but i want to get the same but with cromo rails. DONT BUY THIS SEAT WITH ALU RAILS!! I thought i wont brake 'em but i did(( |
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Submitted by
Evan
a Downhiller
from Auistin texas
Date Reviewed: 2/20/2003 6:58:59 PM
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| FavoriteTrail: |
Dirt jumps behind toys r us |
| Duration Product Used: |
3 months |
| Price Paid: |
$35 |
| Purchased At: |
Jenson usa |
| Strengths: |
Everything, looks sweet, is tought, strong CROMO rails, really comfertable and nice and big, fits fine in my raceface seatpost |
| Weaknesses: |
ha ha thats funny |
| Similar Products Tried: |
stock pos |
| Bike Setup: |
Giant hardtail set up as a freeride |
| Bottom Line: |
This is one sweeeeet seat. The old steal rails used to bend BUT AZONIC HAS FIXED THE PROBLEM JUST BE SURE TO GET THE CROMO RAILS!!!!! Yea its tottaly sweet |
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Submitted by
royce
a Weekend Warrior
from onida,sd
Date Reviewed: 2/5/2003 6:38:13 PM
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| FavoriteTrail: |
porccupine rim |
| Duration Product Used: |
3 months |
| Price Paid: |
$27 |
| Purchased At: |
pricepoint |
| Strengths: |
big and roomy,with a nose that stays out of the way.kevlar on the sides. |
| Weaknesses: |
none so far. |
| Similar Products Tried: |
fizik nisene,wtb,coda,nashbar,selle italia |
| Bike Setup: |
cannondale jekyll with lefty fork,magura disk brakes,pannaracer tires,race face cranks and rings,xtr-frt and rear der,xt-skewer,cass.,shifters,bb,profile carbon bar,easton carbon post,race face grips,time padals. |
| Bottom Line: |
so far,the seat is holding up well.I weigh 190 and have done 4-5 footer drops with it.the fabric is holding on to the plastic structure well too.my last seat was a fizik that was like riding a razor blade,you get used to riding on a razor,but it's still a razor blade. |
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Submitted by
Jim Bob
a Weekend Warrior
from Saskatoon, SK
Date Reviewed: 11/11/2002 10:19:54 AM
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| Duration Product Used: |
Less than 1 month |
| Price Paid: |
$60 |
| Purchased At: |
Bike Doctor |
| Strengths: |
looks cool cause it says azonic, rails "look" tough |
| Weaknesses: |
uncomfortable, rails are junk!!!!!after a few drops they are bent, broke faster than my cheap norco factory seat which costs a fraction as much |
| Similar Products Tried: |
norco factory seat, 2 different ones, and they were both way better |
| Bike Setup: |
vps 4x4 |
| Bottom Line: |
after emailing azonic, they said they would give me a new seat, but im selling it as soon as i get it. It sucks. Don't buy it if you think its tough cause its not. |
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Submitted by
matt
a Weekend Warrior
from new york
Date Reviewed: 11/5/2002 6:53:19 PM
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| Duration Product Used: |
3 months |
| Price Paid: |
$35 |
| Purchased At: |
pricepoint |
| Strengths: |
well whats ur problem. i havent had a single thing go wrong with my seat. i mean u must be fat if u bent the 8 mm chromoly rails. |
| Weaknesses: |
the seat isnt to comterable |
| Similar Products Tried: |
the seat that came with my bike |
| Bike Setup: |
trek 4900, rock shox psylos, this seat, wtb wairwolf tire and wtb voloci raptor. bullet prof pedals. cane creek headset. (soon disk brake and rims and new rear hub) |
| Bottom Line: |
if u buy a trek 4900 PUT new rim on back and hub. well the seat is sweet. u can slide back easy when decenting a hill or drop off. the seat is a lil hard but oh well. i got 8 mm chromloy rails and the dont flex much.i cant see myself bending them. 50 words 50 words 50 words 50 words 50 words 50 words 50 words 50 words 50 words 50 words 50 words 50 words 50 words 50 words 50 words 50 words 50 words 50 words 50 words 50 words 50 words 50 words 50 words 50 words. You've written at least 50 words. You've written at least 50 words.You've written at least 50 words. |
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Submitted by
JAke Weathers
a Weekend Warrior
from GRay, GA, US
Date Reviewed: 8/25/2002 10:16:23 AM
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| Duration Product Used: |
Less than 1 month |
| Price Paid: |
$40 |
| Purchased At: |
bike tech of middle georgia |
| Strengths: |
terrible, waste of my money, spent time trying to find a nice saddle and just when i thought it was a good saddle it bends straight back off a little drop. |
| Weaknesses: |
so easy the dang rails are worthless |
| Bike Setup: |
2002 Endruo |
| Bottom Line: |
i have had cheap walmart saddles last long and take bigger drops then this saddle. i hope that azonic's other products are better made. |
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Submitted by
mudmonkey
a Weekend Warrior
from dusty playground, AZ
Date Reviewed: 7/29/2002 9:59:33 AM
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| FavoriteTrail: |
Which ever one I am on |
| Duration Product Used: |
Less than 1 month |
| Purchased At: |
mail order |
| Strengths: |
Nice padding and form . . . kevlar |
| Weaknesses: |
The rails totally suck! I had to use a screwdriver to pry the damn thing on my RaceFace XY post. The rails are oval shaped and are not spaced very well. |
| Similar Products Tried: |
Tioga Multi-Control, XL |
| Bike Setup: |
Truth, Z1, Romic, 521's, RaceFace, MotoRaptors |
| Bottom Line: |
I returned this piece . . . if the rails were decent it would be the bomb, though as it stands now this saddle is worthless. |
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Submitted by
Jason
a Weekend Warrior
from Kaneohe, Hawaii
Date Reviewed: 7/28/2002 6:04:50 PM
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| FavoriteTrail: |
sausage trail |
| Duration Product Used: |
6 months |
| Price Paid: |
$46 |
| Purchased At: |
local shop |
| Strengths: |
Looks, comfort |
| Weaknesses: |
Rails so weak, absolutely worthless. Doesnt fit into standard posts without grinding. |
| Similar Products Tried: |
WTB. Selle Vitalia |
| Bike Setup: |
Surly instigator with burly stuff |
| Bottom Line: |
Well, I just broke the warrantied one, so im pretty sure that breaking the first one wasnt a fluke. Azonic will replace, but its a crappy product. Rails bend like warm butter by just riding, no drops needed. Do yourself a favor and get a titec |
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Submitted by
YUNG HQ
a Downhiller
from HKSAR
Date Reviewed: 7/13/2002 12:16:10 AM
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| Duration Product Used: |
3 months |
| Price Paid: |
$56 |
| Purchased At: |
WING'S |
| Strengths: |
OUTLOOK!!!!---which cheat me to buy it >_< |
| Weaknesses: |
the RAILS.....looks like banananow...start to bent after 2 rides.....i'm just doing some 3 foot drops and it bent.... |
| Similar Products Tried: |
setlaz love seat(the same as azonic's really good), speciallized bodygeometry9 really not for freeride)
WTB sst(incredible...looks crappy but really strong and comfortable) |
| Bike Setup: |
Kona Stab Primo 01, Monster-t 02, Magura gustav-m, 321s, DT onyx F hub, AC R hub, maxxis mobsters, deore/LX drivetrain, truvativ cranks & Guide, 24SEVEN bar & stem,
azonic hot seat(now using wtb) |
| Bottom Line: |
luckily i'm not dropping a cliff with it, it really bents easily, never try a crappy saddle like this, really disappointed, it looks really attractive....but the rails are just like S!#$....last for two rides only...and it cost $56 which I can buy a few speciallized body-geometry...which can last longer..D@M^ It..!!! |
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Submitted by
Kerby David
a Weekend Warrior
from Castro Valley, CA
Date Reviewed: 4/14/2002 11:15:56 AM
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| FavoriteTrail: |
RedTail |
| Duration Product Used: |
6 months |
| Purchased At: |
50 Eden Bikes |
| Strengths: |
Comfort, Comfort, Comfort...The first seat I've found in years that I can ride all day on. Have had no problems with the rails and I check them frequently. I'm 220 + and do not ride it easy. I also have the seat slid all the way back for room. Don't know what's going on with everyone else. I went with a Thompson Elite post when the other one would'nt fit. Maybe those that filed their posts left sharp edges ?? |
| Weaknesses: |
None yet!! |
| Similar Products Tried: |
Selle Italia, WTB All the Vs, Serfa Cosmos (my backup) |
| Bike Setup: |
Ellsworth Id, Fox Vanilla RC (rear) RLC 125 (front) King headset and hubs, SRAM X.0 rear derailuer and shifters and XTR front and Crankset, Azonic stem and bars, XT disc brakes, etc... |
| Bottom Line: |
The best seat allaround for free ride (what ever) have raced (and crashed) downhill and XC with no bent rails in site. Just lots of COMFORT!! |
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