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Submitted by
Dan
a Cross Country Rider
from Ozona, Texas, USA
Date Reviewed: 6/18/2007 5:35:40 AM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | any |
| Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years |
| Strengths: | Comfortable and Durable |
| Weaknesses: | None |
| Similar Products Tried: | Too many different saddles to remember |
| Bike Setup: | Jamis XLT that I put together with parts from several places |
| Bottom Line: | This is my favorite saddle. I had one on my old GT Karakoram and one on my Kona Dawg Primo. When I gave the Kona to my son after I built up the Jamis, I kept the Bontrager saddle. The gel insert and the stitching have held up well. Personally, I do not care for a saddle that is cut out for most of its length as it makes me uncomfortable on technical rides of any significant length. I like the gel insert and the cutout in the back. Also, I really like the with of the saddle. I am currently looking for another one for my road bike. |
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John
a Weekend Warrior
from Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Date Reviewed: 2/12/2007 2:40:34 PM |
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| Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years |
| Purchased At: | Stock on my 2001 Trek Fuel 90 Disk - Earl's Cycle (closed 2003) |
| Strengths: | WOW! The best saddle I've used sofar. A drop nose to get in/out of saddle quickly with out getting poked. A gel insert for comfort. A wide back end to place my bum on. A cut out for sensitive/important body bits. |
| Weaknesses: | The gel insert was not placed/sewn in the exact dead center of the saddle. The quality control guy must of been asleep or on holiday. |
| Similar Products Tried: | Stock saddle on 1994 Raleigh Matterhorn & replacement as stock was too short + too wide. A Vetta but not the TT (tri-shock) stock on my 1996 GT Ricochet & the Velo Crossbow when the Vetta wore out. |
| Bike Setup: | 2001 Trek Fuel 90 Disk. |
| Bottom Line: | The best saddle I've used sofar to date. It has everything I'm looking for with the exception of a leather cover and Ti rails. But, these two features would double the price of a replacement. I'll just stick with the vinyl cover with CrMo rails. Bottom Line: The best saddle I've ever used. |
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Submitted by
Troy
a Racer
from Utah
Date Reviewed: 6/10/2005 8:42:23 PM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | Wheelers Canyon/Maples |
| Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years |
| Purchased At: | Came on bike |
| Strengths: | Weight, Strength, Comfort, Construction, Reliability, Looks, The Bontrager Name. |
| Weaknesses: | After four years the stitching around the gel pad is starting to wear. |
| Similar Products Tried: | Selle Italia |
| Bike Setup: | Jamis Dakar, XT drivetrain, Avid mechs, Judy fork, Fox shox |
| Bottom Line: | Hands down, this is one kick ass saddle for the money. It is way comfortable, and if it lasts as long as it has for me, is a well earned investment. I haven't had the problems with the rails that other reviewers have had but perhaps I got lucky. I would recomend it. |
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Submitted by
Andrew
a Cross Country Rider
from North Vancouver Canada
Date Reviewed: 1/21/2004 9:54:44 PM |
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| Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years |
| Price Paid: | $50 |
| Purchased At: | On Top Bike Shop |
| Strengths: | Good support, highly durable, comfy where it counts the most. |
| Weaknesses: | Can't find somewhere to get another one. Rails are a little loose but they went like that after a few months with no real consequences - i've been riding it for 3 years. |
| Similar Products Tried: | Various Vetta, Selle and Velo seats over the last 11 years |
| Bike Setup: | Rocky Mountain Element (3.5" dual). Before that the seat was on my hardtail for two years and was comfortable there too. |
| Bottom Line: | Despite the loose rails I'm going to get another one of these for my other bike as soon as I can find one. The rails went a little loose after a few months but it's been no big deal for three years now. Comfort is the number one factor and I find this seat to be the most comfortable of any practical serious mtb saddle I've ever had. No numbness whatsoever after long rides - pssst, you know what I'm talking about. The stiching on mine started to go a few moths ago so I lined them with Barge cement. Now it's good for another year or two. The leather is still in good shape with no detatching from the base. Great Saddle. One chilli off for loose rails (but who really cares). |
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Submitted by
Vince
a Cross Country Rider
from CA
Date Reviewed: 1/19/2004 5:44:07 PM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | any! |
| Duration Product Used: | 1 Year |
| Price Paid: | $40 |
| Purchased At: | pricepoint |
| Strengths: | This saddle is very comfortable.Even more so if you are on long ride's.Easy in and out for those technical time's on the trail.The all black look's good too. |
| Weaknesses: | I have noticed that the rail's are starting to whobble abit but i have put considerable miles on it.If you can ride past that Happy trail's! |
| Similar Products Tried: | Specialized body geometry |
| Bike Setup: | NRS2,Fox Float,full xtr drivetrain. |
| Bottom Line: | If you are looking to save weight this is not the saddle for you but if comfort is what you are looking for it's a good performer even for the advanced xc rider.Plus it's kind to nether region if you know what i mean.Soooo having said that go out and ride! |
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Submitted by
tmo
a Cross Country Rider
from Boston, MA, USA
Date Reviewed: 1/8/2004 7:29:11 AM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 1 Year |
| Price Paid: | $40 |
| Purchased At: | Pricepoint (i think) |
| Strengths: | Confort. Gel center. Price. |
| Weaknesses: | Construction is questionable. |
| Bottom Line: | I used this saddle for close to a year before switching to a Selle Italia Max Flite Trans Am. The only reason I switched was because I did not like how the saddle shakes a little bit on its rails. It started doing this shortly after I got the saddle. While the shaking never effected performance, I did worry that one day it would snap. After using the new saddle for about nine months (I found the other saddle to be better for the road), I am going back to the Bontrager. Shaking aside, I find the saddle comfortable and easy to move around on (i.e. dropping off the back). |
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Submitted by
Ben
from St. Cloud,MN,USA
Date Reviewed: 12/3/2003 5:57:06 PM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 2 Years |
| Price Paid: | $39 |
| Purchased At: | Out-N-About |
| Strengths: | Inexpensive, durable and comfortable. |
| Weaknesses: | Weight...if you're into that. |
| Similar Products Tried: | WTB, Gary Fisher, no name brand... |
| Bike Setup: | Surly 1x1 |
| Bottom Line: | This is the most comfortable saddle I have used to date. The other saddles mentioned above were all extremely uncomfortable usually resulting in numbness in areas I don't care to discuss. The Bontrager FS2000 on the other hand has never in almost 2 years of usage been uncomfortable or left me feeling numb. I have one on each of my bikes. The price is also tough to beat considering the great performance. |
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Submitted by
Paul
a Weekend Warrior
from Saskatoon Sk Canada
Date Reviewed: 9/11/2003 8:34:44 PM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 3 months |
| Strengths: | This is a good seat it is comfortable. I ride at least 20km each time I am in the saddle on single track |
| Weaknesses: | Chromoly rails are terrible I have gone thru 2 saddles in 6 weeks. Trek has been great and warranty them for me but ! |
| Bike Setup: | Trek 6700 hard tail 2003 |
| Bottom Line: | Over all the seat has been good I can last for hours riding with this saddle. But The rails are not holding up. I am out of the saddle alot when I ride, for some reason I keep bending these rails I have never bent rails before. The dealer feels that I am too extreme for what the saddle can handle. I am almost 40yrs old Ya okay maybe I am doing things that most guys my age don't do but I am not jumping off cliffs I am riding single track. |
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Submitted by
Rio
a Racer
from Tucson AZ
Date Reviewed: 8/21/2003 8:16:32 PM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 1 Year |
| Price Paid: | $29 |
| Purchased At: | price point |
| Strengths: | Comfort and flex |
| Weaknesses: | Heavy |
| Similar Products Tried: | Specialized Body Geometry |
| Bike Setup: | Stock FSR XC |
| Bottom Line: | Great seat for long, everyday riding. Very comfortable and forgiving. If weight is a factor, use this for training and swap to a race saddle for competition. Highly recommended, especially for the price |
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Submitted by
Andy Wang
a Cross Country Rider
from 14273 Forest Crest Dr.
Date Reviewed: 8/4/2003 11:27:08 AM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | Castlewood |
| Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month |
| Price Paid: | $35 |
| Purchased At: | beyond bikes |
| Strengths: | easy to install, comfortable, fairly cheap, well designed |
| Weaknesses: | chromoly rails i guess |
| Similar Products Tried: | stock kona saddle |
| Bike Setup: | Kona Nunu stock. |
| Bottom Line: | I couldn't wait to install this bad boy on my saddle, previously i was riding with the stock saddle and it was ROCK hard... even with a gel seat cover! I rode with this around castlewood park, MO and it was really nice. I had read the reviews but i suspect the seat wasn't positioned or angled well. Super comfortable and excellent ergonomics, i didn't feel a thing after riding for 15 min. I'm just not sure if the chromoly rails will last... the gel insert is perfect and the seat just LOOKS awesome. Highly recommended and worth every penny. |
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Submitted by
Thomas
a Weekend Warrior
from Austin
Date Reviewed: 7/3/2003 8:11:01 AM |
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| Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month |
| Strengths: | looks nice... |
| Weaknesses: | isn't comfortble. |
| Similar Products Tried: | Serfas Rx, Tailbones, stock C-dale seat with gel cover. |
| Bike Setup: | 2003 Trek Liquid 10 - stock |
| Bottom Line: | Ouch! This seat isn't comfortable. I put a gel cover over it and it didn't help much. I have Serfas Men's Rx on my Super-V and will soon have a 2nd one on my Trek. Most of my rides are cross country-ish during the week and more technical stuff on saturdays. It's OK if you are out of the saddle but on the weekdays I'm doing 45 minutes to 1.5 hours in the saddle and it SUCKS! Anyway, I've had it a week and won't have it much longer. 2 chilis because someone, somewhere, might like this seat. |
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Submitted by
Robin
a Cross Country Rider
from Holland
Date Reviewed: 6/8/2003 5:06:43 AM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 6 months |
| Strengths: | It looks good and therefor it has the idea that it feels good. |
| Weaknesses: | The middle section is letting loose. First a few stitches ant then a whole section. Then that sticky mess is coming to release which sticks on your butt. |
| Similar Products Tried: | Saddles with no midsection |
| Bike Setup: | Fuel90 |
| Bottom Line: | The bottom-line is that the saddle is not that bad until the weak stitches is coming to let loose. The next saddle will be an anatomical saddle with a hole in the middle with wings at the end. |
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Submitted by
Tim
a Cross Country Rider
from Macungie, PA
Date Reviewed: 5/21/2003 8:31:10 AM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | Anywhere Vermont, New Hampshire |
| Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month |
| Price Paid: | $34 |
| Purchased At: | Spokes Bike Shop |
| Strengths: | Slim design, decent padding, nice soft gel center section |
| Weaknesses: | Funky stitching on center section, hopefully it doesn't unravel |
| Bike Setup: | F600 Cannondale, still stock except for Dart/Smoke tires |
| Bottom Line: | Did several 20 milers on stock C-dale seat - butt always hurt. Did a 42 miler on B-trager, butt didn't hurt at all, works for me. |
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Submitted by
Mitch
a Cross Country Rider
from Minneapolis, MN
Date Reviewed: 5/2/2003 5:49:47 PM |
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| Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years |
| Purchased At: | LBS |
| Strengths: | Looks great. Quality construction. Easy to slide off back for downhills. |
| Weaknesses: | None really, newer ones do look cheaper. I bought a new one recently since I bent the rails on my original. I ended up putting my old cover on the new rails. |
| Similar Products Tried: | Bontrager Race Lite |
| Bike Setup: | Fuel 90, XT, Mars Super. |
| Bottom Line: | I'm no racer. For long rides it's been a very good saddle, and the cover has lasted 3 years. |
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Submitted by
keef
a Cross Country Rider
from uk
Date Reviewed: 2/26/2003 11:49:48 AM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 6 months |
| Strengths: | looks good, squidgy bit on top feels good to squeeze, but that's about all it's good for. |
| Weaknesses: | stitching around gel insert too obtrusive(!), this worries me |
| Similar Products Tried: | sofa, armchair, barstool |
| Bike Setup: | yes |
| Bottom Line: | okayish seat, not spectacular, but i'd feel better about this seat if it was split instead of having the redundant gel insert with dodgy stitching. it looks good though. |
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Submitted by
Ian
a Cross Country Rider
from Princeton, NJ USA
Date Reviewed: 1/3/2003 6:58:18 AM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 6 months |
| Strengths: | Looks good, reasonably comfortable, light-weight |
| Weaknesses: | Less than six months of moderate use and the stitching is coming undone and the cover fabric is ripping |
| Similar Products Tried: | none yet |
| Bike Setup: | Trek Fuel 90, purchased this fall, mostly stock for now |
| Bottom Line: | Great saddle and at a great price (came with the bike). But less than 6 months use, it's coming apart, so thumbs down... |
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Submitted by
Nick
from Canada
Date Reviewed: 12/23/2002 1:35:48 PM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 1 Year |
| Price Paid: | $50 |
| Strengths: | Kevlar sides are nice, the leather on top is also nice, no numbness, good design |
| Weaknesses: | Possible to hook pants on the nose of it, but don't all saddles do this? Seems like it's slowly falling apart internally. It moves around a little on the rails now. |
| Similar Products Tried: | Cheap saddles |
| Bottom Line: | It's a good saddle, but I will probably look at a WTB Laser next time. |
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Submitted by
David
a Weekend Warrior
from Boston, MA
Date Reviewed: 12/11/2002 12:36:22 PM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 2 Years |
| Price Paid: | $30 |
| Purchased At: | Price Point |
| Strengths: | Comfortable Inexpensive |
| Weaknesses: | So-so durability |
| Similar Products Tried: | San Marcos Rolls, Selle Italia Flite, San Marcos ERA, many other brands no longer remembered |
| Bike Setup: | Klein Adept |
| Bottom Line: | The FS2000 came with my bike. I have had no complaints with comfort, on rides from 1 to 2 1/2 hours, over all sorts of singletrack. I can't comment on the design features except to say I've not suffered any pain at all from this saddle. I had some problems hooking my winter tights on the nose as I shifted backwards. So I replaced the droopy tights. I tore the "fabric" side panel on the OEM saddle, and replaced it with the same model (in a jaunty two-tone!) from Price Point. I continue to enjoy the saddle. I liked it even more after I upgraded to a Thomson seatpost (I think I positioned it a little better), but that's another review... This spring, I also replaced the saddle on my road bike (a dingy old San Marco Rolls). I purchased a Selle Italia Flite, based on numerous good reviews, and ended up getting rid of the thing after 2 months, and purchasing a San Marco ERA. Much better, for me. The lesson I got from this is, saddle preference is very personal. The only sure way to be happy is to try 'em. Buy from a flexible store, and you'll be able to find what you need. |
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Submitted by
Ken
a Weekend Warrior
from Kent, WA
Date Reviewed: 11/16/2002 10:59:44 PM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | any singletrack |
| Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month |
| Price Paid: | $40 |
| Purchased At: | Singletrack Bicycles |
| Strengths: | Good price, comfortable. Great value |
| Weaknesses: | none |
| Similar Products Tried: | San Marco Concur light, Turbomatic(on my road bike) |
| Bike Setup: | Schwinn Homegrown Pro, |
| Bottom Line: | I have been very surprised and pleased with this saddle. I was 2 miles into a ride with my son and my seven yr. old San Marco broke. I got back to the car and we drove to the nearest shop. I didn't want to spend a lot on a new saddle since I just had ordered a new bike. We put this saddle on and we went back and completed our ride. Since then I have been on several other rides with this saddle and it has not disappointed me. The longer the ride the more comfortable it seems. My new bike will have the Race Lite saddle on it so I think I will be happy with that one as well. My son wants the FS2000 for him when I get the new bike. |
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Submitted by
John
a Cross Country Rider
from Pittsburgh, PA
Date Reviewed: 11/16/2002 5:43:06 PM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | Bavington |
| Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month |
| Purchased At: | Came with bike |
| Strengths: | Looks Cool, slim design, thats about it |
| Weaknesses: | Hard as a rock |
| Similar Products Tried: | WTB Speed V |
| Bike Setup: | 2000 Trek 8000, LX/XT |
| Bottom Line: | My ass hurt for a week after riding on this seat. I'm 5'11'' and weigh in at 150 lbs. If you are a down hill rider who doesn't sit on his/her ass for long periods of time then I guess this is the seat for you. But if you do a lot of cross country riding where you are sitting for extended periods of time like two hours or more, don't get this seat! The bottom shell is a solid piece of plastic which bruised my ass bones and butt tissue. The center gel insert doesn't even come in contact with your bottom. I just picked up a WTB Speed V which got a lot of good reviews. Unlike the Bontrager this seat has a flexible piece of rubber used for the shell which is much more forgiving. It is definately more comfortable than the Bontrager and is just as easy on the eyes. Check out the WTB Speed or Laser. |
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Submitted by
bikin fool
a Racer
from Ontario, Canada
Date Reviewed: 9/23/2002 5:56:18 PM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | I'll tell you when I've ridden them all. |
| Duration Product Used: | 2 Years |
| Strengths: | pretty good looking |
| Weaknesses: | rips really easily, uncomfortable |
| Similar Products Tried: | oh so many |
| Bike Setup: | Trek 8000, Pythons, XTR levers+brakes, XT levers, serfas grips |
| Bottom Line: | I bought my 8000 late '00 and have abused it since then. I realize that as a whole, the bike is stiff, but ive dont 2 years of racing on it, including some enduro races, and all I'm gonna say is ouch. One of the main things I noticed was that the saddle was comfortable for the first 15 min or so, and then it would just start to hurt. Another thing, every time I sat down, I'd have to sit with more weight on one of other sides of the saddle in order to keep a reasonable amount of feeling in my genitals. I'm sure that value-wise the saddle is great, but as for comfort, I prefer Selle Italia Flites. One point in the saddles favour, however, is that it has stood up to some massive crashes without major rips. |
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Submitted by
Eric Herbst
a Racer
from Bloomington, IL, USA
Date Reviewed: 9/8/2002 7:52:37 PM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | Farmdale, Indy, McNaughton, Jubilee, Evergreen, Kickapoo |
| Duration Product Used: | 3 months |
| Purchased At: | R&M Cyclery - Springfield, IL |
| Strengths: | comfort, easy to get around on |
| Weaknesses: | seems a little flexy |
| Similar Products Tried: | Specialized Body Geometry Sport (keeps its promise of relieving flesh pressure almost too well -- too much weight on your bones) |
| Bike Setup: | came stock on my 02 Trek 8000 |
| Bottom Line: | Most comfortable seat I've ever had. Easy to move around on -- getting off the back, leaning forward for climbs, it's almost as if it's not there. I've only had it for 2 months, so I haven't had time to see if it's flimsy as some others here and a couple of people I've ridden with say. Hopefully not, because I'd like to keep it around for a long time. |
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Submitted by
Mike
a Weekend Warrior
from Cleveland, Ohio
Date Reviewed: 8/26/2002 7:30:33 PM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 2 Years |
| Strengths: | "Clipped wing" design |
| Bike Setup: | Specialized Rockhopper |
| Bottom Line: | Maybe it's just the trails that I ride, or the way I have it set-up; but this is the best saddle I've found for downhill sections of intermediate trail. (note: not the same as a downhill course) Sometimes you want to just stand on the pedals and cruise and other times you want to get your weight back behind the saddle because of some big rocks or serious elevation change. This is the best I've found for going back and forth between those postures. As for rips; I'd torn up 3 previous saddles in a matter of months. This one is just starting to tear after 2 years. As for the rails bending, well, I only weigh a buck fifty and this saddle may not work for the heavier rider. I plan on buying this same saddle soon. |
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ManoImano
a Weekend Warrior
from St.Louis
Date Reviewed: 7/16/2002 12:27:41 PM |
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| Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month |
| Price Paid: | $40 |
| Purchased At: | Touring Cyclist |
| Bike Setup: | Specialized Stump |
| Bottom Line: | I used to be able to ride only about an hour before my arse used to scream for my skin. This saddle changed all that - the first day, did a 3 hour ride on some unpaved rd, and would have done more if not for the time constraint. Amazing saddle. 5 flaming cat turds for this baby! |
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Mike Ruzich
a Cross Country Rider
from Hillside,Il
Date Reviewed: 7/5/2002 1:33:54 PM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | Hills and dirt |
| Duration Product Used: | 1 Year |
| Purchased At: | With Bike @American Bicycle and Fitness |
| Strengths: | I have had no discomfort with the saddle |
| Weaknesses: | Plastic Lower lip caught and ripped shorts. Emailed trak and they said it ha no real function. Then why put it on. Ran into someone at Wors Cup who had same problem, as did a riding partner |
| Similar Products Tried: | None |
| Bike Setup: | 2001 Trek 8000 |
| Bottom Line: | Saddle is fine. A bit of electrical tap solves the snagging the shorts problem and lends a salty look to the saddle. When I have had to get off the saddle fast, it has allowed me to. As mentioned before, even at the young age of 51 and still in my first year of MTB racing, the saddle feels fine. |
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David
a Weekend Warrior
from Laramie WY (like no place on earth) USA
Date Reviewed: 7/5/2002 8:34:14 AM |
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| Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month |
| Strengths: | Not totally uncomfortable. |
| Weaknesses: | Ripped in to places on my first ride! Relatively mellow fall caused two huge rips. On closer inspection, the seat material appears to be vinyl, not leather. |
| Similar Products Tried: | various random saddles, mostly specialized or Performance, none of which ripped. |
| Bike Setup: | Trek 8000 Stock (expect now have Terry Fly) |
| Bottom Line: | Ok, I'm not a materials scientist, but I think I know the difference between leather and vinyl. Showed the ripped saddle to the owner of the shop and he said it was vinyl as well. Both the Bontrager and the Trek site describe this saddle as leather. Personally I wouldn't care either way (hey, save the cows) if they both worked equally well. But I can't imagine a true leather saddle ripping like this. The seat is reasonably comfortable, though much less so and heavier than the Terry Fly a friend gave me. My problem is that this would seem to be false advertising. Have not been overwhelmed with the feedback I've gotten from Trek or Bontrager when I called or emailed them with my complaint. What is the deal? |
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Submitted by
Sprocketeer
a Cross Country Rider
from Narashino, Chiba, Japan (native of New York)
Date Reviewed: 6/23/2002 8:42:38 PM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | I like it rough and dirty, baby! |
| Duration Product Used: | 3 months |
| Purchased At: | Seo Cycle (pro shop), Tokyo Bay LalaPort shopping mall, Minami-Funabashi, Chiba, Japan |
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