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Submitted by
Graham Mitchell
a Weekend Warrior
from Perth, Australia Date Reviewed: January 7, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Any | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | Light weight. Stunning longevity! | | Weaknesses: | Zip | | Similar Products Used: | Zac 19 | | Bike Setup: | '99 Marin Mount Vision, still largely original with '04 Vanilla fork set @ 100mm. | | Bottom Line: | I bought my MM new in '99. I am still running the original wheels and brakes. People keep pointing out that I should upgrade to disks. I reply that I will when the wheels brake or wear out. Well after nearly 8 years of crashing and bashing through the inhospitable Australian bush (you don't know till you've been there) my wheels are still going strong. Sure, I've broken several spokes and required occasional truing and yes, I lose braking power in the extreme wet (rare here) but these hoops won't say die! So to all those whom I lambasted in my 2001 post, stick that in your pipe and smoke it!! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
angus henry
a Weekend Warrior
from ottawa, ont, canada Date Reviewed: March 15, 2004 | | Favoriate Trail: | gatineau's firetower | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$120.00 | | Purchased At: | rent a bike | | Strengths: | Strong, light durable. Nice and stiff too | | Weaknesses: | has none if used for what it is, an xcwheel | | Similar Products Used: | bontrager, sun | | Bike Setup: | gary fischer big sur | | Bottom Line: | They rock, only had to true them once and that was minor. Solid, dependable best ones I have ever had.
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Submitted by
Ian
a Weekend Warrior
from Vancouver, BC Date Reviewed: November 9, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | stk on bike | | Strengths: | Over two years on weekend thrashing and bashing has resulted in minor truing maybe four or five times. | | Bike Setup: | Marin Attack Trail FRS | | Bottom Line: | Really amazed that what I hear is a XC rim has taken over two years of thrashing and bashing into and off of large logs by a low finesse but agressive rider. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Leo
a Cross Country Rider
from Sweden Date Reviewed: December 15, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | Came stock with my Marin | | Strengths: | Strong, holds for XC riding. Light, even lighter than my other set of wheels which are built with the X517 rim(both sets have same spokes and hubs). | | Weaknesses: | Not with the rims, but the stock wheels I got are built with very high spoke tension - so far three spokes have popped because of that. | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic X 517 , Weinmann | | Bike Setup: | Came stock on my Marin Mount Vision -99, but now the wheels are used on my winter mtb. | | Bottom Line: | Great rim, if You find it - rare as aftermarket rim in sweden.
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Submitted by
Sean
a Cross Country Rider
from Nottingham (UK) Date Reviewed: November 4, 2001 | | Favoriate Trail: | Sherwood Forest/Clumber Park | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$50.00 | | Purchased At: | Olympic Cycles (Nottingham, UK) | | Strengths: | Quite light Strong Inexpensive | | Weaknesses: | None so far | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic X517 citrus Zak 19 (came with the GT i-drive I used to ride) | | Bike Setup: | Coyote HT4 frame, Judy Race fork, full XT group (inc hubs & V's)...... | | Bottom Line: | I bought these after I wore out a pair of X517s. As they cost about half what I paid for my 517s I wasn't expecting much from them - they aren't SUP welded like the 517s. I expected to get a few months out of them and then buy something better. However, I haven't needed to replace them yet - they've stayed true (I don't use them for anything too extreme - no drops of more than a foot or so), and I haven't noticed much wear on the braking surface. I suspect that anyone who has had problems with these rims has either suffered from a poor wheel build or is using them for something other than straight-forward XC. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
andrew
a Cross Country Rider
from middletown Date Reviewed: October 26, 2001 | | Favoriate Trail: | the jungle | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$70.00 | | Strengths: | Awesome rim. I bought these w/specialized stout hubs from a friend barely used. my only problem was when i tacoed the front rim. | | Weaknesses: | Nothing | | Similar Products Used: | bonty race lite(my friends) xtr w/517's(his race wheels) | | Bike Setup: | a whole bunch of odd parts that you really dont see together too often | | Bottom Line: | When i tacoed my front rim, it was my fault. It was on a night ride and my light's beam didnt go over the edge of a 4ft dropoff. I hit front wheel first at 17 mph. I smacked it on the ground to straighten it out and rode home. That one i landed right on my face. They look really cool half black half braking surface. I got a sweet price but to replace the rim it will cost 30 bucks(special order) | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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Mark
a Cross Country Rider
from Carbondale, Colorado Date Reviewed: October 22, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$160.00 | | Purchased At: | Colorado Cyclist | | Strengths: | Strong. Fairly light. Looks good. Seem to track well. | | Weaknesses: | None | | Similar Products Used: | Old Ritchey (Vantage I think). Mavic 221. Sun Rhynolite. | | Bike Setup: | Used one year on my 1989 Bridgestone MB-1, then one year on a Strong frame. Both hardtails with suspension. | | Bottom Line: | They are a hand-built set with XT hubs. They have generally been used on windy single-track, but occasionally on the rougher stuff and some light downhill. They have never had to be trued once (that I can remember), which is very good since I am a 250 lb. plus rider (part of this may be the quality hand-building from Colorado Cyclist). They have been taken off some good one to three foot drops, with no problem. I am starting to hit the rough stuff harder, but still don't think they would be a problem. One day, I am sure that they will need some truing. Good quality cross-country rim at a good price. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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Graham Mitchell
a Weekend Warrior
from Perth,WA,Australia Date Reviewed: August 3, 2001 | | Favoriate Trail: | Eight and a half metre | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | Entrepreuneur | | Strengths: | Light,strong,great colour. | | Weaknesses: | None yet. | | Similar Products Used: | Zac 19. | | Bike Setup: | Mount Vision with full XT | | Bottom Line: | You know I've got to say this;there's some deeply unintelligent reviewing going on on this site! X 222's are CROSS COUNTRY rims. Get that? So,Bozo,don't expect them to cope with drop-offs into rock-gardens or whatever! I mean 'What on earth do you expect from your kit??' These rims are excellent for their intended use -trail hacking,racing,cross-country epics. "Mommy,Mommy my bike's broken! It's a piece of trash! Can I get a new one?? Awww,pleease!! Boo-hoo! Snivel,wail,pout,sulk.You don't love me...etc,etc,etc." | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ron H
a Cross Country Rider
from Somerville, NJ Date Reviewed: June 11, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$100.00 | | Purchased At: | Bike Zone | | Strengths: | Light weight. durable. | | Weaknesses: | none | | Bike Setup: | giant atx890, rock shox sid xc, race face crank, xt group, grip shifters | | Bottom Line: | rims are awesome. bought rims with xt hubs and casette. I am a little heavier than the average rider (210 lbs). I ride a lot of technical, and some longer cross country rides. I have gotten them trued once since bought them. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Clint
a Weekend Warrior
from Portland, OR Date Reviewed: August 22, 2000 | | Favoriate Trail: | Lewis river | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$105.00 | | Purchased At: | cambria bike | | Strengths: | strong, looks | | Weaknesses: | none | | Similar Products Used: | bontrager | | Bike Setup: | sc heckler, marzocchi, xt | | Bottom Line: | I bought these wheels on closout at cambria bike for 130 bucks. i am a broke college student who can't afford more exspensive wheels. I have been very pleased with the performance. I am not that smooth of a rider and hammer on my bike pretty hard. I havn't had to true them yet even after nailing a stump and endoing. great wheel for the money, I would buy another pair if these were to wear out. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jason
a Cross Country Rider
from IL Date Reviewed: July 30, 2000 | | Favoriate Trail: | JUBILIE STATE PARK | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | light and durable | | Weaknesses: | none yet | | Similar Products Used: | bontrager mustang | | Bike Setup: | GARY FISHER SUGAR 1, TREK 6000 | | Bottom Line: | THESE RIMS HAVE BEEN RACED, RIDDEN AND CRASHED HARD FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS AND ONY NEEDED TRUEING TWICE. ONE WAS AFTER MY REAR DERAILLEUR GOT PUSHED INTO MY REAR WHEEL BY A LOG AND BROKE 5 SPOKES. I RODE IT ABOUT TWO MILES BACK TO THE CAR AND TOOK IT TO THE SHOP, THE SHOP OWNER WHO BUILT THE WHEELS WAS ALMOST IN TEARS WHEN HE SAW IT. WELL, HE FIXED IT ABOUT 4 MONTHS AGO AND ITS STILL STRAGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT SOME OF THESE OTHER GUYS ARE DOING TO THEIR WHEELS, BUT MINE HAVE PROVEN TO BE PLENTY TOUGH. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Justin
a Racer
from Baltimore Date Reviewed: June 8, 2000 | | Favoriate Trail: | Top Secret | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Fairly lightweight
| | Weaknesses: | Pretty Weak | | Similar Products Used: | WTB Speedmaster | | Bike Setup: | Giant XTC SE-2 | | Bottom Line: | I don't know if it's the build or the rim, but in the month and a half that I've had these I've trued them 6 or 7 times, and I'm a 140# cross country rider/racer who at most does 3 foot drop offs. I'd recommend the speedmasters that came with the bike before these. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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Thomas
a Weekend Warrior
from Ostersund, Sweden Date Reviewed: March 28, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Strong! Looks good! Price! | | Weaknesses: | None! | | Similar Products Used: | Araya, Weinmann | | Bike Setup: | Gary Fisher Joshua with Judy SL + Super deluxe, LX/XT components, Magura HS-33. | | Bottom Line: | The Mavic 222 is strong and durable. It's not the strongest or the lightest rim on the market but if you're not a racer or jump off cliffs it's a good allround choice. I haven't had to true the wheel yet despite giving it a lot of abuse. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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Mark
a Cross Country Rider
from Bracebridge ON Canada Date Reviewed: March 24, 2000 | | Favoriate Trail: | Radical - Hardwood Hills | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Light!!! Good Looks!! Strong!! | | Weaknesses: | None | | Bike Setup: | Norgo Tango - XT+XTR groupo - crowbars - Judy's with Total Air hop-up
| | Bottom Line: | Great rim at a great price. I ride em hard and have had no problems after 1 year. These rims are very light and strong. Unless you downhill, these rims are for you !!! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Sierra Pete
a Cross Country Rider
from CA Date Reviewed: January 18, 2000 | | Favoriate Trail: | Boggs or Flume | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Good value, strong. Gee whiz they're rims, what can you say? | | Weaknesses: | none | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic 217 & the good old 231s | | Bike Setup: | My number 2 bike a '94 Trek 920 frameset-ridged!, built up with '98 LX stuff as a quality beater. The rims are attached to LX hubs with DT 14/15 spokes. | | Bottom Line: | I have to agree with the below review. Some of these guys must weigh 220lbs., do 5 foot drops on poorly built wheels that they never had retensioned after purchased. I've done some rough riding with these wheels-800 miles on my ridged (no less) bike with no problems.
Ok I don't do 5 foot drops, but if I did I wouldn't whine because I broke something! Have you noticed how many whiners there are on this website? | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tom
a Cross Country Rider
from So Cal Date Reviewed: January 18, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Bottom Line: | A lot of the posters below must be doing 5 ft wheelie drops or they have wheelsets built by morons, cause the Stout/XT/222 combo that came on my 98 Stumpjumper has been totally bulletproof. I have been pounding these wheels incessantly over our local nasty rock infested trails for almost 2 years and had to true them mabye 2 times. They run straight and brake very well..........No complaints and 5 flamers! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
James
a Cross Country Rider
from London, Ont, Can Date Reviewed: January 14, 2000 | | Favoriate Trail: | trail #8, gatineau park, Ottawa | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | well constructed SUP weilded rim, strong and long lasting for the price (trued once in three years of riding/racing) | | Weaknesses: | when they go, they go (one lasted a long time, but cracked on just a normal commute across town) | | Similar Products Used: | though to call, now on crossRides (similar rim, no probs yet ;) | | Bike Setup: | Schwinn homegrown LXT 97 frame, XT throughout | | Bottom Line: | solid for the money, good intro rim, and work well with xt hubs, just don't get too technical or they will disappear faster then you hoped for | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Zeke
a Weekend Warrior
from Welly, New Zealand Date Reviewed: January 6, 2000 | | Favoriate Trail: | Anything not to bloody steep | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Light, Look good. | | Weaknesses: | Weak asss | | Similar Products Used: | Weinman zac17 or sumthing, came standard on my bike | | Bike Setup: | monggose sx 6.7 with Top Gun triples up front. | | Bottom Line: | These rims are ok for the type of rider that takes it easy, do jumps, drop off's etc and don't bother with them! | Overall Rating: |
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Alex
a Downhiller
from Danville, California Date Reviewed: December 22, 1999 | | Favoriate Trail: | Mr. Toad's wild Ride in Lake Taheo | | Duration Product Used: | more than 3 years | | Strengths: | the price the quality the weight | | Weaknesses: | the rims seem to me to be weak. | | Similar Products Used: | mavic 517, Sun Rino Lites steel no name brands | | Bike Setup: | xcr 2000 Marzocchi z3 & fox vanillia R air shock | | Bottom Line: | I think that these rims are great. Right now my My garage is full of these rims. The only problem is that they are weak. I can't complain though because they are worth the money that you put into them. Hint:don't use them for jumps or you will totally screw them over. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jude
a Weekend Warrior
from Rocky Hill, CT Date Reviewed: November 24, 1999 | | Favoriate Trail: | Ringwood, NJ | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Similar Products Used: | weinman zac19, sunn cr18, mavic crosslink | | Bike Setup: | Jamis Dakar- Manitou SXe Fork/Fox Vanilla Rear | | Bottom Line: | I have a 222 front rim. They're nothing fancy, but not expensive either, and haven't given me any problems since I slapped them on my bike to replace a Sunn CR18 I tacoed on a crash. So far I've beaten the crap out of it; drop-offs, wheelie-offs, hops, misjudged hops (my hops need improvement)and lots of rocky rocky terrain like they have at Ringwood, NJ. So far, I haven't had the weakness probs that otheres seem to have on this review page. Maybe it's b/c it's not my rear rim, and rear rims take more of a beating? Anyway- nice rims; light, smooth rolling, and strong from what I've seen. 5 chilis! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Pk
a Cross-Country Rider
from Kensington, CT Date Reviewed: October 14, 1999 | | Favoriate Trail: | all of em | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | light weight | | Weaknesses: | strength | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic 225, 517, Araya | | Bike Setup: | rear wheel on steel frame Balance hardtail | | Bottom Line: | I am not happy with this wheel. I must true constantly and check for loose spokes. I'm in my forties and weigh 145 - this shouldn't be. The stuff I'm on is real boney though. | Overall Rating: |
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Steve Eckardt
a Cross-Country Rider
from Huntington, IN Date Reviewed: August 23, 1999 | | Favoriate Trail: | Franke Park | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Light Good craftsmanship Strong | | Weaknesses: | None that I have found | | Similar Products Used: | Campagnolo-Araya | | Bike Setup: | Giant ATX AL1.75 frame-RockShox Q21R shock-LX/XT | | Bottom Line: | Ordered a complete wheel built with 222's. Can't seem to break these rims. Normally a set only lasts 1 1/2 years for me. I've only had to true these guys twice since bought. Like the machined braking surface - exceptional craftsmanship throughout! Mavic has got me as a customer for life! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
JUT
a Cross-Country Rider
from CT Date Reviewed: August 20, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: | less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Not Too heavy | | Weaknesses: | SOOOOO weak! | | Similar Products Used: | 517, Bonty Mustang | | Bike Setup: | Moab 1 w/ lots of new goodies | | Bottom Line: | Bonty's are much better. I will never buy these french pieces of crap ever again. I had them set up with LX hubs. They were well laced, but first drop off I took they bent to an irreparable state. I only weigh 175, they should not do this! Don't waste your hard earned pennies on these hunks of worthless metal! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ron H
a Cross-Country Rider
from Somerville, NJ Date Reviewed: August 17, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | light weight, very strong. I have many hard hits on them and they have stayed true. | | Weaknesses: | have not found any. | | Bike Setup: | giant atx890, manitou xc in front | | Bottom Line: | strong rims, would recommend to anyone who asks. inexpensive for quality. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
rob
a Weekend Warrior
from sorta burr ridge, IL Date Reviewed: July 4, 1999 | | Favoriate Trail: | PALOS!!!! | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | well, they are way light!!!!! and i dig them now | | Weaknesses: | had to true then a couple of times, | | Similar Products Used: | mavic 517, weinman junk, ritchey | | Bottom Line: | well, i have a prior posting here and i was sorta unhappy than. but now... these things have been trued a couple of times and the spokes are getting set-it and i havent trued for bout 450 miles. they are light and pretty strong, i am sorry to see them on special-phazed out status now. i am giving four piles of poop cause they were junk at first-but that could be cause lbs built them haphazardly | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
MikeD
a Cross-Country Rider
from Calgary Date Reviewed: May 10, 1999 | | Favoriate Trail: | milstream | | Duration Product Used: | less than 1 month | | Strengths: | they're light, and they look pretty cool | | Weaknesses: | they are super weak rims | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic 138's and Sun CR18 | | Bike Setup: | 1999 Specialized Stumpjumper M2-Pro with race-face cranks and riser bar, and michelin wildgripper sprints | | Bottom Line: | they're light rims and they look cool but these suck so badly, they are so weak, I've had them for about 3-weeks and I've had to get them trued 3 times already, that's brutal for a new pair of rims. the only reason I'm giving them 2 stars is because they look cool and they're light. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
ROB
a Weekend Warrior
from CHICAGO, Date Reviewed: May 5, 1999 | | Favoriate Trail: | PALOS | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | DECENT RIMS, LITE HOLDING UP PRETTY WELL. HAD TO TRUE 2X BUT THAT COULD BE FROM A S*ITTY INITAL SETUP | | Weaknesses: | NONE, REALLY | | Bike Setup: | 98 UNIVEGA ALPINA 804 W/JUDIES | | Bottom Line: | I RECOMMEND EM | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Matt
a Weekend Warrior
from SA, Australia Date Reviewed: March 31, 1999 | | Favoriate Trail: | Mt Bold | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Excellent durability, light wieght(relatively) Well balanced | | Weaknesses: | Excessive heat with hard breaking. | | Similar Products Used: | Have not needed too!!! | | Bike Setup: | Front susp. with Judy C's long travel.(goose; Comp SX). | | Bottom Line: | These budget friendly shocks have great strenght and durability(even when pushed to the limit). | Overall Rating: |
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