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TurboCat DualSource 25-30

Average Rating 4.88/5
# of Reviews 16
MSRP $ 230.00
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Description:DualSource systems offer the best of both worlds for serious off-road riders or racers: A 10 or 15 watt TrailGuide helmet light lets you see into corners and down drop-offs. A wide-angle 15 watt S10 handlebar light illuminates the trail and creates the shadows that are necessary for depth perception. For some endurance racing, consider optional 5-watt spot and 10-watt flood beams. Battery choices: Ni-Cad, Ni-MH, and Lead-Acid. Choose one type or another - or mix them - for run time, weight, and price.

Suggested retail prices from $230 - $335.





Submitted by jason willaford a Weekend Warrior from Woodinville,Wa USA
Date Reviewed: March 13, 2008
Favorite Trail:Tokul East
Duration Product Used:1 Year
Price Paid: $350.00
Purchased At:Turbo Cat
Strengths:Simple design. Great looking. Tom. He is the man.
Weaknesses:None.
Similar Products Used:None.
Bike Setup:15W handle bar flood with the 10W helmet mount. NiCad batteries.
Bottom Line:If I had a nickle for everytime I had to let my friends borrow my helmet light so the could get out of the woods with their Cygo light, Topeak or whatever light they have, I could have paid these off. I bought two sets of these lights last year and they are awsome. They dont have that funky blue look that you get from a $500 helmet mount HID, just gobs of bright white light. Go to the Turbo Cats web sight and check them out. Everything they say about their lights is true. Buy these lights and you feel like a freight train rollin through the woods. Oh yeah, after one full year of wet, muddy use, these lights still hold a 2 hour charge no problem. And dont forget to get the quick release for the handle bar mount, it is the coolest part on my bike.
Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

Submitted by Ed a Racer from Switzerland
Date Reviewed: November 26, 2007
Favorite Trail:local beauties
Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
Price Paid: $360.00
Purchased At:Turbocat direct
Strengths:lamps are great quality
good old school system (not HID, not LED) for a reasonable price
good support (mail, phone) before AND after purchasing
Weaknesses:220 V charger and cable connections look a bit cheap for a 400 US light. How good they hold up is to be seen...
Similar Products Used:Tried the Sigma Mirage Evo kit before which is OK as long as you stay on roads - but not useful for trail riding.
Bike Setup:Scott genius custom (XTR, Spinergy, etc.)
Bottom Line:Buy these lights if you are looking for 2-3 hours night riding time on trails. They work and are good quality. If you need the newest fun parts go to Lupine or others and spend 4 times as much on LED and HID, Xenon or other. I guess these costly lights are even better but will cost your buck (bulbs are as much as this set). The Dual Source Kit will allow you to ride like in daylight. So why spend more?!
Value Rating:4Overall Rating:4

Submitted by Robert a Weekend Warrior from La Habra, CA USA
Date Reviewed: November 14, 2006
Favorite Trail:Fullerton Loop or Chino Hills
Duration Product Used:3 months
Price Paid: $320.00
Purchased At:TurboCat
Strengths:Reliable, Bright and Simple. Great customer service.
Weaknesses:None so far
Similar Products Used:None-Product was recommended through Ask RC on mbaction.com
Bike Setup:Giant Trance 3 - Stock set up
Bottom Line:These lights are great, I love the dual source system, 10w helmet mount spotlight and 15w handlebar mount flood. The 10w helmet mount spotlight really puts the light where you need it most. One of the guys I ride with has a handle bar mounted hid light and it is not nearly as effective through switchbacks. The NiCd batteries work great, after each ride I plug them in to charge over night and they are ready to go for the next ride. Our night rides are generally 1 1/2 to 2 hours and I have not had either battery fail.
Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

Submitted by Brian Rooney a Cross Country Rider from Richmond, VA
Date Reviewed: August 17, 2006
Favorite Trail:Buttermilk
Duration Product Used:6 months
Price Paid: $290.00
Purchased At:TurboCat direct
Strengths:Solid construction, phenominal customer service, Dual source turns night into day!
Weaknesses:None so far
Similar Products Used:Niterider
Bike Setup:06 Epic, 05 Stumpjumper
Bottom Line:The folks at TurboCat couldn't be more helpful. I had a rush order for an 18 hour race that was in 3 days and talked to Tom who went out of his way to stop the UPS guy from leaving his building so he could package up the lights and send them overnight. These lights blow away any HID out there. Great buy.
Value Rating:4Overall Rating:5

Submitted by Eric a Cross Country Rider from Los ANgeles, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: November 30, 2005
Duration Product Used:3 months
Price Paid: $320.00
Purchased At:direct
Strengths:solid construction, easy to mount, lightweight lights, good directions, reliable, bright as hell, easily adjustable
Weaknesses:none yet
Similar Products Used:niterider, blackburn led
Bike Setup:stumpy xc
Bottom Line:I tried out other lights before using the Turbocats. I tested handlebar mount only and helmet only. The DUal Source is the way to go for sure. These Turbocat lights are brighter than any other light I have tested. The helmet mount is easily adjustable on the fly (tilt) and the bar mount one is as well. Any time I ride at night with others my lights are the brightest. These lights are reliable. Sure a fuel gauge would be great or a light on the charger indicating a complete charge or active charge would be nice. But you can use a watch to tell how much longer you have on the lights when youre out riding and you can time the charging also. These lights are low tech but are true workhorses. The simpler the better! I think they represent a great value. Also, the folks at Turbocat were a pleasure to deal with.
Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

Submitted by Art a Racer from Torrington, CT, USA
Date Reviewed: November 11, 2003
Favorite Trail:West Hartford Resovoir
Duration Product Used:3 months
Price Paid: $300.00
Purchased At:Berkshire Bike and Blade
Strengths:Reliable, crash worthiness, fit and finish, and excellent customer service.
Weaknesses:None!
Similar Products Used:Cygolite, Nighrider, Cateye, Lights and Motion
Bike Setup:Trek Fuel 90
Bottom Line:This is the best lighting system I have ever used. I ride just as fast at night with these lights and never worry about the integrity of the system.

Turbocat sets the standard for a simple and effective lighting system.
Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

Submitted by Jamie a Racer from Hollywood
Date Reviewed: April 18, 2003
Favorite Trail:The Snow Shoe 24 Hour Race Course
Duration Product Used:More than 3 years
Strengths:Everything about it the system is great. You will not find a more durable and affordable light system on the planet. I have put these lights through several 24 hours races over several years and not once did the lights even show signs of weakening. Nothing has ever broken on the lights nor has any bulbs burnt out. They are frankly bullet proof. I will never ride another light system; none will ever top the durability or performance of TurboCat. We trust TurboCat so much that every Year my entire 24-hour racing team races on Turbo Cat lighting systems. We trust TurboCat's products so much that any and all new 24-hour team memebers MUST use a TurboCat lighting system.
Similar Products Used:You name it I've used it. Including my backup flashlight, because my "NightRider" couldn’t manage to make it through the race.
Bottom Line:Buy a TurboCat lighting System. You won't be sorry you did.
Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

Submitted by Alan a from Pomona, CA
Date Reviewed: October 29, 2001
Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
Price Paid: $270.00
Purchased At:Montrose Bike Shop
Strengths:Very bright! Great visibility on the trail.
Weaknesses:Wish run time could be longer
Similar Products Used:Nightsun
Bottom Line:Turbocat offers a great warranty, and very good customer service. Elayne at turbocat was very helpful and instrumental in my decision making process. She said that their system would blow away Nightriders system and she didn't lie, my friend just bought a Digital Pro Dual lite system and mine blows it away in the brightness category. It might not run as long and have a gazillion adjustments and LCD display, but who needs that gadgetry anyways. Turbocat put its technology into the light and it shows!
Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

Submitted by Russ W a Cross Country Rider from Owatonna
Date Reviewed: October 22, 2001
Favorite Trail:All
Duration Product Used:1 Year
Price Paid: $300.00
Purchased At:Direct
Strengths:Solid construction - Simple setup & use - Durability - Reliability - Customer Service - CNC'd quick release bar mount
Weaknesses:They're expensive, but worth it in the long run.
Similar Products Used:Various...from flashlights to Nite Rider.
Bike Setup:DS-30 running on NiCads. 15w spot, 15w flood
Bottom Line:The bottom line? They just plain work. A basic system for a basic task. The construction is top notch and they also happen to look fantastic. I've used em' for over a year in all types of weather and have had zero problems. Run times are over 2 hours. Turbocat's warranty policy seems very straight forward. Customer service has been excellent. Certainly a good choice if you're in the market for some night time fun.
Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

Submitted by Al a Weekend Warrior from Austin
Date Reviewed: August 14, 2001
Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
Price Paid: $230.00
Purchased At:Bicycle Sport Shop
Strengths:Bright light. Good Construction. Quality everything.
Weaknesses:None that I've found.
Bottom Line:
I ride at night during the week. This light is awesome. It's so bright, cars slow down either because they're blinded, or they wonder what the heck that is. I ride on trail or road at night without fear now, and much faster. Everything about this setup is quality. I have the Nicad water bottle for the handlebar light, and the NiMH battery for the helmet light. The light this puts out is unbelieveable, especially for such small lights. Buy this setup and you won't be disappointed. It's worth the money.
Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

Submitted by John a Cross Country Rider from Fayetteville, AR
Date Reviewed: March 30, 2001
Duration Product Used:6 months
Purchased At:LBS
Strengths:Everything
Weaknesses:None
Similar Products Used:Nite Rider pro-12
Bottom Line:TurboCats just plain rock. No other lighting system I have seen comes remotely close. No funky mounts to break, just a rubber block with a velcro strap and the light stays put, easy on/off.

After six months of use, I can say that the dual source set up is on of the few purchases I have made that have totally met and exceeded my expectations. The quality of light is the best, and with lead acid batteries I get 1:30 of bright run time, plug them in upon return and leave them plugged in, no need to remove from charger, a big bonus for me. Run times have stayed consitant. Crashed a few times, have scratch the finish of the bar light barely. TurboCats are the way to go if you are serious about riding. Nothing comes close. I know why no shop stocks both nite rider and Turbocat, the niteriders would NEVER sell. Five flaming grenades.
Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

Submitted by Don a Cross Country Rider from Northern NJ
Date Reviewed: October 30, 2000
Favorite Trail:Ringwood State Park
Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
Price Paid: $180.00
Purchased At:Bicycle Factory,Charlottesville,VA
Strengths:CNC machined alum housings, stainless steel hardware, heavy duty 18 gauge wiring and waterproof. All of their systems are modular for easy add ons and upgrades within 6v or 13.2v systems(not between 6v and 13.2v). I like that the switching only cycles hi beam to low beam bypassing off.
Weaknesses:Need more local dealers in the NY/NJ area so I don't have to explain where to buy them.
Similar Products Used:Niterider
Bike Setup:Mongoose Pro XT, XTR, Avid, Cane Creek wheels
Bottom Line:I needed a quality light setup for winter night riding. I did alot of internet research and some field testing. I set my sights on a dual light source system. Turbocat's Dual Source systems stood out as the most viable option. I found an excellent value at price that I paid (retail $305 w/nicads-paid $180). The Handle bar 15 watt flood is bright, white and very even. The helmet mounted 15 watt spot also throws off excellent quality light. Combined battery weight is about 40 ounces. I have experienced run times of over two hours. Both helmet and bar mounts are rock solid. At this point the quick release is not essential. They also have excellent customer service (Elayne). They have a crash warranty that looks great...I hope I never need it.
I have used these lights in several small group rides and on each occasion my lights attracted the most interest. They were brighter than the Niteriders and also ran longer.
I would recommend these lights to anyone looking for a quality setup at a reasonable price that can be easily upraded.
Great job Turbocat!
Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

Submitted by John a Cross Country Rider from Fayetteville, AR
Date Reviewed: October 15, 2000
Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
Price Paid: $220.00
Purchased At:LBS
Strengths:CNC'd housings, no plastic. All parts of easily replaceable. Hey, the most car like lighting system I've used, meaning that you turn it on and does what its supposed to light up the trail.
Weaknesses:Ahh, none so far, but after one ride, who can really tell.
Similar Products Used:Niterider stuff
Bottom Line:Researched Turbocat and they seemed to offer the best, no frills, modular light system. All metal here, no plastic to crack when the temperature goes down. Perhaps most importantly, no digital crap. I know of a few people who have newer NiteRider lights that have a tendency to run through all the power settings. Do you really need your light to be able to signal SOS via morse code? Not when riding downhill, no thanks.

Dual source 30 is upgradable, either batteries or additional lights. A second handlebar light runs 60 bucks! What other brand offers that? Not that you really need more than the 15 on the bar, but from my experience you can never have too much light.

My Niteriding experience is limited, but can't imagine riding without a helmet light, it really makes a tremendous difference.

I'm a picky guy and the dual source satisfies. Mmm, lets see, two batteries, two chargers, 15 watt helmet mounted light, 15 watt bar mounted light, for 220 bucks. Same setup would cost over 350 with any other brand. Oh, and they're plenty bright.

Five flaming grenades!
Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

Submitted by NIck Anderson a Weekend Warrior from Louisville, KY
Date Reviewed: October 4, 2000
Favorite Trail:Otter Creek
Duration Product Used:More than 3 years
Price Paid: $200.00
Purchased At:Clarksville Scwinn
Strengths:Durable. Durable. Durable.
Weaknesses:none
Bottom Line:I don't own the current dual beam, I own the precursor to it (Secret weapon). I've used it for over 5 years in wet, freezing conditions. I've crashed on it and crashed on my Turbo Cat helmet light and I've never had a single problem with either (I even endo'd right on top of the helmet light and it worked great after clearing all the dirt off). I have to get a new one because the battery doesn't fit my new full-susp. frame, but that is the only reason I'm replacing it. I need a water botle cage battery. I will buy another Turbo Cat.

Also, customer service is very good.
Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

Submitted by Ed a Weekend Warrior from Pasadena
Date Reviewed: April 23, 2000
Favorite Trail:Mt. Hillyer
Duration Product Used:3 months
Strengths:A great set-up, no frills, lightweight, easy once I got it figured out. I got the quick release mount, which is nice. Have had a blast. The handlebar beam cast a general light while the headlight beam is much sharper. Great combo. Still allow for some night paranoia with the shadows and all.
Weaknesses:the cost
Bike Setup:used it one two different bikes -- easy to interchange.
Bottom Line:very straightforward, no frills, great light
Value Rating:4Overall Rating:5

Submitted by Todd(les) a Cross Country Rider from Kansas City
Date Reviewed: January 12, 2000
Favorite Trail:local-Landahl; anywhere-Bull Mtn., GA
Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
Strengths:Matched set of flood (bar mount) and spot (helmet mount) with complementary run times.
Came with upgraded CNC'd bar clamp instead of velcro
Weaknesses:Lacks bells and whistles of Niterider Digital stuff (if you're into that.) No remote switch for bar mount.
Similar Products Used:Specialized Ni-cad and AA battery light
Petzl headlamp
Bike Setup:Trek 9800 w/ Manitou SX-Ti and straight bar
Bottom Line:I did a lot of research and read many reviews before selecting this system and I couldn't be happier with my purchase (so far).

Although I have only ridden with this off-road twice (road about 4 times), I am already in love with the set up. I have experimented on my trails with just the helmet or just the bar-mounted light to determine the pitfalls of both. Having both sources seems far superior for both technical and twisty terrain.

Helmet mount allows you to see around corners (away from where your bike is pointed at the moment) and on narrow singletrack, and the bar mount helps you judge the depth of drops and obstacles from the shadow created. Having both definitely helps you go FASTER!

Instructions, packaging and materials are all top shelf. The instructions have good advice on care, storage, charging, replacement, etc.

I'm giving this four chilis but will revise that upward if this performs like I anticipate over the long term.
Value Rating:4Overall Rating:4






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