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Description:Pro II Rear features a one piece 7075 aluminium rotor body and pawl carrier. Four pawls engage into a twenty-four tooth steel ratchet which is fixed into the hub shell and is sealed with a frictionless, non contact labyrinth seal. The axle runs on four cartridge bearings. The hub shell is machined from a solid billet of 2014 T6 aluminium.
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Submitted by
Ryan
a Weekend Warrior
from Ridgecrest, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: June 1, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$190.00 | | Purchased At: | Ride-This | | Strengths: | strong, relatively light, easy to convert the hub to almost every axle configuration under the sun, easy to maintain | | Weaknesses: | kinda pricey | | Similar Products Used: | shimano xt | | Bottom Line: | yeah, they are loud, but they quiet down a bit after breaking in. i like the loud hub, kind of a warning to other trail users. it beats using a bell. and, (i find) contrary to other reviews, it actually is easy to service. no bolts or nuts holding it together, just o-rings. pull the end cap off with pliers, pull the freehub off, lube, and push back together. effortless. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
PJM
a
from PC Utah
Date Reviewed: May 16, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | warranty | | Strengths: | Looks great. | | Weaknesses: | Earlier model-(Bulb Ti)-ratchet failures. | | Similar Products Used: | Everything. | | Bike Setup: | Kona Dawg-light xc build. | | Bottom Line: | Ridden Hope rear hubs 3 yrs now. Broke two Bulbs(ratchet)
and now have the warranty-replacement Pro-II laced up.
I break alot of rear hubs being over 200lbs, and they are the one bike part most likely to fail under larger and agressive riders. This pro2 rear hub is loud and works
ok so far. None of the weird pops yet that signaled the failure of ratchet pawls or teeth. I will initially rate it a 3+ and upgrade if it lasts under pressure for 500 miles. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Pete
a Weekend Warrior
from UK
Date Reviewed: February 26, 2008 | | Favoriate Trail: | Brechfa (Wales) | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$256.00 | | Purchased At: | Chain Reaction Cycles | | Strengths: | Strong, Light, looks good, choice of colours, choice of spoke hole drillings, flexability, availability of spares. | | Weaknesses: | LACK OF TECHNICAL DOCUMENTS / SERVICING INSTRUCTIONS FROM HOPE - PAY ATTENTION HOPE! Noisey. Aluminium cassette hub is very weak - hope should offer steel cassette hub as standard. WOuld be nice to see a tool kit with all necessary bushes and tools for complete bearing replacement of ProII hubs. | | Similar Products Used: | Shimano Deore M525. | | Bike Setup: | Orange Msisle, Rockshox Pikes, FSA Pig, Hope DH stem, Avid BB7's, Mavic rims, Shimano Hone Cranks, Single-speed. | | Bottom Line: | I have a front hub (set up for 20mm axel), a rear hub (with a steel cassette body upgrade, and a rear single-speed/trials hub. And really this is three reviews in one.
The SS/trials is (IMO) the best product hope have ever produced. The zero-dish and wide flanges make for light, yet near indestructable wheels (especially with 36 spokes). The shorter cassette hub body means that you can run 5 sprockets (8-speed style) out back if you want gears (who wants 8/9/10 out back anyways!) and the shorter cassette hub body means it it lighter too! Steel cassette hub body as standard for durability and five sets of bearings mean that the hub is very strong and super-smooth! Pickups are 48 per rotation (which is practically instantanious) and the buzz makes the
The standard MTB rear is noisier due to the four pawls engaging simeltaneously and needs re-greasing every 3 months or so to keep it quiet(ish). But this is a super-easy job. These need to be supplied with a steel cassette hub body as standard as the aluminium one is just cheese with even aluminium-carrier cassettes! Upgrade via your local Hope stockist ASAP. (NB: Halfords is s hope stockist.)
The front hub is apparrently simple to convert, but I would like to see a bolt-up option with it like the rear hubs, although preferablly with an entire 10mm axel for rigidity rather than just the bolts that are used with rears.
In conclusion, EXCELLENT hubs with some minor flaws that Hope could easily sort. RECOMENDED. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Erig G
a Racer
from Miami, Fl
Date Reviewed: December 27, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | Cycle World | | Strengths: | Light, quick engagement, EASY servicing, Relatively great price. | | Weaknesses: | Soft Aluminum cassette body , but it's the reason why these things are light. So you gotta pay to play. | | Similar Products Used: | Bontrager OEM stuff | | Bike Setup: | '07 Fuel EX 7 on Pro2/Stan's Olympic rim wheelset. Running various non-tubless Kenda tires | | Bottom Line: | The Hubs are great. Smooth rolling. Never had a quick engaging hub until this one and it's awesome. Loud but not annoying. Everyone says the same so I don't understand why that guy would be disappointed that they were loud. If he doesn't like loud hubs than these aren't for him obviously. Servicing is easy once you RTFM (Google it if you don't know what I'm talking about). The only pain was taking off the cassette when servicing. Since the Body is aluminum, the cassette will bite into it so it get's a bit stuck. You gotta wiggle it a bit to get it out. It's easy once you get the hang of it. Take out the Cassette lock ring, put back the skewer tight on the hub to hold it all together, fight off the cassette, then take out the skewer and everything will come apart by hand. It really is great. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
derby
a Cross Country Rider
from San Anselmo, CA USA
Date Reviewed: December 7, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Goosebury Mesa | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$200.00 | | Purchased At: | Universal Cycles | | Strengths: | Looks | | Weaknesses: | NOISE | | Similar Products Used: | Hope Bulb | | Bike Setup: | Ibis Mojo | | Bottom Line: | Hope Pro 2 are lighter but worse design than Bulb. I've pulled mine apart 3 or 4 times after first few rides to add grease to quiet them. But the grease or Phil's Tenacious Oil quiets down for a couple rides but lighter grease or P’s T oil pushes past the weak seal.
They are poorly designed for maintenance, similar to Bulb but not designed to easily take apart for needed yearly maintenance.
I've wasted the original seal and bought 2 more. And will try very thick axle grease to quiet to reasonable noise.
Waste of money and time building the wheel unless you really want obnoxious hub noise.
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Submitted by
Alex Mills
a Downhiller
from Arundel
Date Reviewed: October 27, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Rogate | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | South downs bikes | | Strengths: | super solid hub with a very fast pick up. Spins very well. one of the loudest hubs ive ever heard. I love the noise it makes :) | | Weaknesses: | have not had any problems so far. | | Similar Products Used: | Halo djd, dmr revolver. | | Bike Setup: | Kona stinky, junior t's, sun doubletracks. fox shox | | Bottom Line: | Very nice hub, love the range of colors, stands out from the crowd, super loud with a very quick engagement | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Kevin
a Cross Country Rider
from Seal Beach, CA
Date Reviewed: August 30, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | online | | Strengths: | solid hub that engages quickly and spins great. My friends hate the loud noise it makes...I love it | | Weaknesses: | Having difficulty getting cassette off the rear hub. Read in other places this is common..bummer :) | | Similar Products Used: | WTB Disc lite
XTR | | Bike Setup: | Turner Flux with SRAM X9
Minute 2
Avid BB7 | | Bottom Line: | Very good hub......but disappointed about the issue of removing the cassette without scarring/damaging the hub. Would still recommend. Just have the shop remove the cassette so THEY repair it. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
dave
a Weekend Warrior
from south bend in
Date Reviewed: July 30, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$180.00 | | Purchased At: | lbs | | Strengths: | light weight, good looks, great build quality, hope does everything in house except make the bearings and they are swiss so.....they gleam of quality and are obviously not from taiwain. POSITIVE engagement. easy to convert from thru axle, 20 mil, bolt on, quick release with a inexpensive kit from hope.avail in straight pull, 32 and 36 hole. Personally after the first set Ive bought 2 more and my girl is dreaming of a set on her ride. they are top quality,mid priced, light weight, and versitile as a bike part gets -go buy at least 2 sets and quit reading all this crap. | | Weaknesses: | I dont consider a weakness only a trade off. but 4 pawls engaging at once dosent make for the least amount of travel before your hub engages. what it does mean is when it does lock it is hard, firm and positive. I | | Similar Products Used: | Tried about everything. | | Bike Setup: | got em on a xc, x, and freeride bike hardtails. | | Bottom Line: | You haven chosen wisely grasshopper.... | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John
a
from Fort Collins, CO
Date Reviewed: July 16, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$177.00 | | Purchased At: | Jenson | | Strengths: | Price, weight, strength, solid performance. Good cust service. | | Weaknesses: | first one cracked | | Similar Products Used: | Shimano | | Bike Setup: | Turner RFX, Z150, Rynolite front, Mavic 729 Rear, Hope Pro2 fr/rear | | Bottom Line: | The trials guys is not imagining things - my rear hub also exploded shortly after I bought it. I was climbing a short, steep incline and the hub body cracked almost completely in half. Hope replaced it, said it was probably some sort of defect, and built me a new wheel, including the purchase of all parts and the expense of getting it built.
I wanted to wait for a while before posting this. My replacement hub has been great, no problems at all. So I'm putting it down to bad luck with the first year of a new product, and the company took care of it. I may have also had the cassette on too tight, because I was noticed how light the recommended torque was once I started using the torque wrench. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
daniel
a Weekend Warrior
from alexandria
Date Reviewed: May 9, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Purchased At: | work at a shop | | Strengths: | they are light, really light. let strong, really strong infact. i would not hasten to put them on a dh bike at all. also they look pretty good | | Weaknesses: | there are not that many ratchet points like on some hubs that are on the market now but that doesn't really matter. this hub make up for that with super stout engagement instead as it engages all 4 pawls at once | | Similar Products Used: | you name it | | Bike Setup: | voodoo bizango sram 07 x-9 and a reda team and its @ about 25 lbs | | Bottom Line: | its a great hub that is just about that weight of kings (pair weight on both) and is about 1/3 the cost of them. these hubs are actually stronger than kings are with out the up grades to make a king tough and when you do the kings are then heavier.
its a win win for anyone how buys these hubs
note the guy who broke the hub shell that is possible but then again he is a trials rider and they are the only ones that are at the risk. also they have updated the SS/TR hub so that will no longer happen. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
luke
a
from Detroit, MI, US
Date Reviewed: May 2, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | So far this product is excellent. A really firm, positive engagement. | | Weaknesses: | None seen. | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic DeeMax. | | Bike Setup: | Six inch trail bike with slack angles. | | Bottom Line: | Switching to this hub from the DeeMax was like a liberation. The DeeMax failed repeatedly. This hub inspires faith. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Caudex333
a Cross Country Rider
from Colorado
Date Reviewed: April 12, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Excellent craftmanship, inexpensive price, reliability, engagement, color choices, etc. | | Weaknesses: | None | | Similar Products Used: | XT, XTR, WTB | | Bike Setup: | Turner Flux | | Bottom Line: | Excellent hub! Why spend hundreds for King when you can get as good if not better performing hubs for half the price. Hubs are sealed very well but super easy to take apart and service. The rear hub is loud but not annoying. Highly recommended if you are looking at building a custom wheel set. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Clark
a
from Squamish
Date Reviewed: March 31, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | precision built, no slop, super smooth
loud freewheel
great value
light weight but tough | | Weaknesses: | loud freewheel | | Similar Products Used: | chris king, xt, wtb, etc. | | Bike Setup: | heckler | | Bottom Line: | i had nothing but problems with my king rear hub - lots of friction (over-sealed?), and came loose a lot. 2nd hub was no better. decided to give hope a try and i'm glad. just as well built, a little lighter. well sealed, but way less drag. they're been perfect so far. amazing value - the one to get for wet climates. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Shane Walz
a Cross Country Rider
from Portland, Or, USA
Date Reviewed: March 27, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | too many to list | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | Universal Cycles | | Strengths: | Sounds great, looks good, feels silky smooth. | | Weaknesses: | none so far | | Similar Products Used: | Coda Expert, Shimano XT | | Bike Setup: | Jekyll 700, XT/XTR drivetrain, Pro II hubs on DT Swiss rims, Mono Mini brakes | | Bottom Line: | This hub is sweet. I've been punishing my renewed ride in mud and rain for the past 100 miles and it's showed no signs of wanting less. Considering it's half the price of some other hubs it's easily the same value. Some mention that it's excessively noisy but I think it sounds great. Not loud but distinct. It's the sound of you being passed! I'm convinced Hope makes quality components. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nick Price
a Weekend Warrior
from Birmingham, UK
Date Reviewed: December 26, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | Coed-ye-brennin | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$150.00 | | Purchased At: | Halfords | | Strengths: | reliability, Strength to weight ratio, quality to rival hubs twice the price | | Weaknesses: | non ive found so far | | Similar Products Used: | ive ridden dmr revolvers, and various shimano hubs.
ive built wheels on king, dmr, hope mono/xc, shimano, outland and a few others. | | Bike Setup: | i use these hubs on all of my wheelsets, my main set are laced to mavic 717's and are my workhorse wheels that cover most of my general riding. | | Bottom Line: | a hub that retails for 120 quid, comes in pretty much any configuration youd want, and can be adapted to fit any modern frame, QR, 10mm, 12mm, 150mm, single speed, Trials.
ive coverd about 3000 miles in the past year on my main set of wheels through xc training, while i cant comment on strength, i can tell you that these hubs just keep going and going, the bearings are still good as new (the rear has 5 sealed cartridge units, 3 supporting the axle and 2 supporting the freebody) thanks to the seals being impassable...
the freebody is -VERY- loud, although it does quieten down some after a while, personally i like it, you may not!
5 out of 5 - i cant fault them. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bart Donofield
a Downhiller
from Pheonix
Date Reviewed: August 28, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$220.00 | | Purchased At: | Pro Shop | | Strengths: | Very good in finishing. Stiff. The gear sound is very clear. | | Weaknesses: | No | | Similar Products Used: | DT 240s | | Bike Setup: | Reign | | Bottom Line: | For this price, it is a very good choose and reasonable.
I can't accept to pay a couple hundred to buy a "Tune" hubs
and maybe get a little bit performance or weight improvement. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Todd
a Cross Country Rider
from Garner
Date Reviewed: August 23, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Design and cost | | Weaknesses: | None | | Similar Products Used: | XTR, King | | Bike Setup: | Stumpy FSR with upgrades | | Bottom Line: | Great feel and craftsmanship, but the freehub is the loudest thing in the woods. It took me sevral rides to get used to it. The engagement is superb and very positive. The hub rolls well and seems strong. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Trials rider
a Racer
from you don't know where if I tell you
Date Reviewed: August 10, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$190.00 | | Strengths: | ??????
Maybe looks | | Weaknesses: | Hub shell split in a two!!! After three weeks!!
No 36h and bolt on option for trials specific hub
32h is weak and no real deal.
| | Bottom Line: | I have almost the same issue as the case below.
And mine was trials hub.
http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=80614&hl=hope pro 2&st=0
Chinese/taiwanese trials hub released at the same time has the same internal , they might OEM the internal of Hope.
I know the people in taiwan selling hope mono hub cheap. Why??
I think Made in the UK is just the hub shel and taiwanese builds the hub. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Graham
a
from Scotland
Date Reviewed: August 8, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Looks smart. Performs flawlessley. Very light for a rear hub. Very strong considering it's weight. Will last a long, long time. Extremely nice piece of manufacturing. | | Weaknesses: | Absolutely none! (Possibly the price but you get what you pay for). | | Similar Products Used: | Atomlab G.I., and various others - none are as good as Hope though. | | Bike Setup: | Santa Cruz VP-Free - 888R - e13 guide - hayes HD - raceface bars & stem - maxxis tyres - thomson post - truvativ chainset - SRAM X9 shifter/der. etc. | | Bottom Line: | When I bought this hub, I wanted to pay for great quality, strength and reliability. The Hope Pro2 delivers all of this and much more. I was considering the Bulbs as I'm more of a downhiller but decided why pay the extra £10 when the Pro2 will work perfectly well for you anyway? My LBS told me the Bulbs are more a pure DH hub whilst the Pro2 has been designed around freeride. Although I've never ridden a Bulb, I doubt there will be any noticable extra reliability or strength. Go for a Pro2 - it will handle all you give it.
Now I'm waiting for my front Pro2 to arrive! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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