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Submitted by
Daryl
a Racer
from london Date Reviewed: January 27, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | Aston Hill | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$3000.00 | | Purchased At: | Imported from the US | | Strengths: | This is the most amazing short travel bike you will ever ride.It is strong as f*ck and very agile, even more so on 24" wheels.The roomy cockpit make for good handling and stability whilst the short rear end allows snappy corners and super fast acceleration. | | Weaknesses: | Technically none but i have snapped chain stay in a nasty crash that involved a camera man,two bushes and a tree.The impact on the tree snapped the chainstay,made my mrp become single plate,broke my arm and i never found the camera dude. | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | Marz' Z1 duals,mainly romic shock sumtimes fox vanilla,8" M4F 6" M4R,Atomlab aircorp draco hubs,MRP,24/7 Super Fat cranks. | | Bottom Line: | If you can afford it then get it. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
tonton cedric
a Downhiller
from evry FRANCE Date Reviewed: March 9, 2004 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$350.00 | | Purchased At: | Streak-X | | Strengths: | un très beau cadre, original et avec une superbe finition, du très beau travail !
| | Weaknesses: | les base sont très courte et n'acceptent pas de pneus de plus de 2.30 mais entre nous, c'est dejà enorme pour un rigide ! à part ca j'ai rien trouvé même en cherchant bien à lui reprocher ... | | Similar Products Used: | aucun c'est mon premier velo de dual et les autres du même style que j'ai essayé sont moins bien finis ou moins bien taillés. | | Bike Setup: | j'ai monté le cadre avec une Marzocchi Z1 drop Off II de 130 mm, des roues KORE, un pedalier FSA, un ju de direction FSA Pig DH Pro, bref que du bon matos pour rouler fort sans souci | | Bottom Line: | QUE DU BON !!!
C'est un pure cadre idéal poru les grands gabarits comme moi (1m85) qui mermet de faire de nombreuse diciplines et très bien en +, je fais aussi bien du dual que du dirt ou du street, voir même un peu de trial ! le cadre ne bouge pas malgrès les receptions à plat de sauts d'environ 2 mètres sur du beton !
Je recommande vivement ce cadre à tout ceux qui hesitent encore, il est excellent et la géometrie parfaite !!! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
ryan
a Weekend Warrior
from Napa,CA,USA Date Reviewed: September 9, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | the one at my house | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$500.00 | | Purchased At: | I actually got it for $550 with rims from arrow (I ordered over the phone) | | Strengths: | strong,light,very manuverible,compatible with 24's or 26's | | Weaknesses: | still to come (hopefully not) | | Similar Products Used: | nothing compares | | Bike Setup: | arrow dss with 00' Z1 (130mm) hayes 6" hydro truvativ cranks | | Bottom Line: | this bike kicks ass.I rode it at northstar and it was great.(beside the fact that it was rocky as hell at northstar)I hope to race dual slolom next year with it at sea otter.great ride for anyone. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
rod boddumrocker
a Downhiller
from nor-cal Date Reviewed: September 13, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | the one to the moist canyon | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$666.00 | | Purchased At: | gus' hands | | Strengths: | made of metal (not cardboard), twenty four mother trucking inch wheels, excellent balance and manual and oral ability. | | Weaknesses: | steering is a lot faster than what youre used to. | | Similar Products Used: | butt-hole of a girl | | Bottom Line: | get it or die | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Benny C
a Downhiller
from Cincy, Ohio, USA Date Reviewed: August 29, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Street/Single/Dual Tracks | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$2000.00 | | Purchased At: | Online | | Strengths: | This is one AWESOME frame...I get looks and more looks on the trail and street. Random people come up to ask me about it (and to ask to ride it). Super fast acceleration with the 24" wheels (thanks to Gus - owner/designer of this spectacular company). Very active rear suspension. Perfect length for the top tube...Paint is perfect (city lights - by far the awesomest paint job I've seen on a bike). And the best feature of all...its not a cookie cutter bike!!!!!!!! (ie, no one has one) | | Weaknesses: | People stop you too much to ask about it...but really, the only very minor weakness up to this point is the fact you have to modify the MRP. You may not have this problem if you get a new ICGS model....but it was really no worries, cause I work for a machine shop. It is a touch heavy...but if this is a problem, you really dont need a bike this burly then!!! | | Similar Products Used: | nothing really compares...it's an out of the box racer, confidence inspiring bike. Get one and feel the difference!!! | | Bike Setup: | DSS-3 Frame (2.2-4.5" plate), 4" Bombshell Bad Betty Double Crown, Hayes Hydros, Race Face DH Headset, Truvativ DH Cranks, Azonic Hot Seat, Thomson Elite Post, Specialized Platforms, 24" DoubleWides on Hope Bulb Hubs, Arrow DS 2.5" tires, 9 spd XT Rear only, Modified MRP WC 2....the list goes on | | Bottom Line: | To say it simply: This is the baddest bike I've ever owned, ridden, seen, or heard about.... It may look similar to other swing link bikes, but seriously, its not at all!! If everyone that really cares to get a true high performance bike did get one...then I think Gus's job would be done. Of course it would take away my advantage over everyone in races :( The suspension works flawlessly, the geometry is as perfect as I've ever ridden, the price was truely affordable (the price is for the whole bike, said and done), the 24" wheel concept is excellent in handling, acceleration, strength, etc etc. Just go out and get one already!!!!!!! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Benny C
a Downhiller
from Cincy, Ohio Date Reviewed: July 16, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Street for ME | | Duration Product Used: | Tested or demo'ed only | | Price Paid: |
$1000.00 | | Purchased At: | Online | | Strengths: | First off, this is a review for the DSS-3...the full suspension version of the DSS. I am in the middle of building the perfect DS/Urban ride...Man, Just looking at the bike, I dream of things I will do on it...my mouth waters just looking at this ride...(the 'city lights spectrum' paint is far better looking than any other finish on the market, trust me!!). I cant wait to find some 24" wheels!!!!! | | Weaknesses: | The only MINOR weakness is the fact that I had to modify my MRP to fit it...no worries though | | Similar Products Used: | Nothing Compares!!! | | Bike Setup: | DSS-3 Frame (2.2-4.5" plate), 4" Bombshell Bad Betty Double Crown, Hayes Hydros, Race Face DH Headset, Truvativ DH Cranks, Azonic Hot Seat, Thomson Elite Post, Specialized Platforms....soon to add 24" Intense Mag 30's and Arrow Tires for a complete bike...soon soon soon | | Bottom Line: | I just got it, but I had to review something...Ive had tons of bikes in the past, but nothing that Ive wanted to ride more than this bike!!! I will post after I ride her for a week or so....I believe I will be happy!!!! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John Serbeniuk
a Downhiller
from Lansdale, PA USA Date Reviewed: October 25, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Dirty one | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$474.00 | | Purchased At: | Arrow Direct | | Strengths: | Clean welds, top tube length is awesome, replaceable dropout, killer paint job...rides and handles unlike no other. Manualing on this is very fun and jumping is great because this bike is balanced. Excellent customer service and Gus knows what's up, so listen and learn when talking to him. | | Weaknesses: | None to think of...the only thing I have a problem with is the head tube badge shaves my front cable since it is a bit sharp. | | Bike Setup: | Arrow DSS Frame, Zochi Z-3 QR20, Hope Disc Bulb Hubs, 45mm Arrow Stem, Raceface Riser w/ ODI lock-ons, Avid Speed Dial Levers with Avid Mech Discs, Arrow 24" rims (sweet) w/ Primabite tires, North Shore cranks, mrp guide, AC 38 tooth ring, XT RDR, Azonic platforms, King Headset, Thompson post, SDG Bigboy saddle | | Bottom Line: | Super fun bike for slalom, great for riding around in the city on the streets...just an overall fun bike to ride. This is a unique bike that should not be overlooked. It is light but yet built to last, don't put on a triple clamp fork though since it is not built for that. If you are looking for something that rides beautiful and does not have problems like other frame geometries, give Arrow a call and get yourself one. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Wes Boden
a Weekend Warrior
from Manchester England Date Reviewed: October 19, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | bluebell, Macclesfield (heh!) | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$450.00 | | Purchased At: | Leisurelakes UK | | Strengths: | Dead strong and stiff, those little tubes welded behind the bb are amazing. its fast off the mark and accelerates nice with a 24" rear wheel. nice paint job too. handles like a dream. | | Weaknesses: | none apart from crap stickers and hayes mount for rear disc. oh yeah, could be cheaper considering ddg did an identical 7005 version of it for $200. mine was 450 second hand. | | Similar Products Used: | azonic ds1, rocket fab, cortina europa ds, speccy p3, various identities. | | Bike Setup: | x-vert supers, azonic bar/stem, single speed, 24" mammoth rims, id contra 3" tyres, xt cranks, full hope c2. | | Bottom Line: | a wicked little bike, feels like a big bmx, absolutley bomb proof, and rocket fast. bit pricey mind, especially if your only a weekend rider. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Donnie
a Racer
from San Diego Date Reviewed: August 14, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Direct Dial | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$449.00 | | Purchased At: | Arrow Racing | | Strengths: | The frame has good clean welds andthe finish is very nice. I'm impressed with the overall geometry. Gus really knows what he is doing. 24" wheels add a whole new demension to your riding. Customer service at Arrow is top notch. | | Weaknesses: | I really don't see any so far, maybe the only one I can think of is the 24" top tube, that may be kind of long for some smaller riders. Oh...I wish Gus would come out with a front specific 24" tire, like he has for the 26" tires. | | Similar Products Used: | Azonic DS1 Planet X Bomber Santa Cruz Chameleon and too many others to name. | | Bike Setup: | Arrow DSS, '98 Marz. Mr. T, Arrow rims and tires, xtr, Mrp..yadda yadda yadda | | Bottom Line: | A great bike for the money and the customer service can't be beat. Gus would answer all my email questions usually in 24 hours. The bike is stiff and accelerates like no other mountain bike I have ridden. I will be racing next season on this bike with 24" wheels front and rear. I will update then. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ron Norwood
a Downhiller
from Bellingham, WA Date Reviewed: August 12, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Pollo Elastico | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$650.00 | | Purchased At: | Arrow Racing | | Strengths: | Attention to detail, Customer service, Geometry and so much more | | Weaknesses: | None and I mean none! | | Similar Products Used: | Various H.T. and F.S. rigs | | Bike Setup: | Arrow... DSS Frame, rims(super sweet) 2.75F 2.50R Prime bite tires, tubes, and a super sweet Arrow Stem(WOW)40mm, Azonic... chubby bars and saddle, sram 9.0 drive train, Avid Disc brakes and Z-1 MCR | | Bottom Line: | I am amazed by this bike. I have urban assulted for the last week, and I went on my trail first ride today and must say it is the best bike I have ever ridden. 24in wheels is the way to go. Gus is a master of his art and knows his stuff. He advised my on set up and his advice was right on. Check out the web side and buy an Arrow. You can't go wrong. It climbs, desends and jumps incredibly well. Jumping is pure joy on this bike. 16 in. Chainstays are fun and practical. I could go on and on. I will spare you. If you are looking for a new bike. Get an Arrow. You will go fast and smile the entire time! 15 Flamin' Chilis for this one. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Lance
a Downhiller
from St George,UT Date Reviewed: February 20, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Captain Jack | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | Arrow Racing | | Strengths: | Quick handling,Use any fork,Hooks up with unreal traction, | | Weaknesses: | None | | Similar Products Used: | Planet X Jack Flash,Storm Cornerworker | | Bike Setup: | Manitou Supernova,Easton bars,pedals, and post,Raceface Next LP,Kooka rings and guard,Hayes brakes and superlight hub in rear,Arrow rims and tires,the works! | | Bottom Line: | If you do urban assault, dual slalom, love hardtails, or want the best handling bike ever...THIS IS IT! I have run 24" format before but Gus (Arrow Founder)knows his stuff, no wonder Jeff (Intense) saw the light. Gus has been at this the longest and the frame shows it. The 16" stays keep ya tracked right and corner hard. The 24" wheels inspire you to try new stuff. If you came from BMX this bike should suit you quite well. The bottom line is this, it's TOUGH and Quick. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John Pentecost
a Downhiller
from Portland, Maine Date Reviewed: January 15, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Plattekill DS Course | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$450.00 | | Purchased At: | Used | | Strengths: | Great geometry Can fit a 24x3.0 Tire in the rear Arrow's Customer Service | | Weaknesses: | None | | Similar Products Used: | Azonic DS Frame; Specialized P3 | | Bike Setup: | Psylo, Hayes, 24" wheels, etc. | | Bottom Line: | What a great bike. It has such a low C of G and such perfect geometry that it inspires enough confidence in you to try stuff you'd never try on any other bike. Imagine a BMX bike with a suspension fork and a derailleur - that's exactly what this feels like. Extremely maneuverable, and fun as hell to play around on. If you're looking for a VERY versatile bike for urban, DS, North Shore, and even hard core cross country, look no further than the DSS. EVERYONE who has ridden my bike walks away in disbelief of how much fun it is. If I could give it 15 chilis, I would! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
gav k
a Weekend Warrior
from manchester uk Date Reviewed: April 24, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | everything about the frame screams strength this bike is amazing!! | | Weaknesses: | none | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | manitou x-vert supers dmr chieftains 26" front with hope disk xt v on the rear | | Bottom Line: | Possibly the best bike i have ridden this bike wants to go fast and wants to hammered jumped and generally abused, and it will still come back for more. get out there and test one today dont just listen to reviews you have ride it to believe it! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
mark meyer
a Racer
from alexandria, va, usa Date Reviewed: February 7, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | my personal ds course | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | I have ridden so many ds bikes its stupid, and I could never find one with the right geometery, some had the right top tube but wrong chain stays or head tube angle, until I was turned on to the arrow bikes. man these bikes are fantastic from fit to finish, claen welds powdercoats are flawless and geometery is just outstanding. | | Weaknesses: | there is no weakness to this product but there is the lack of attention the mtb world gives to 24in wheels. the arrow bikes and tires keep getting better and their tires are just (wow) i love thes 2.75 prime bite tires and they rip. | | Similar Products Used: | ridden metalhead, it accelarated really slow cortina, ok bike still needs work mongoose,fischer,azonic,storm,foes ridden them all | | Bike Setup: | arrow frame,98 z1, hayses front and rear discs, profile racing cranks 180mm, profile racing stem(pro) cruiser handlebar,odi lockjaw grips(ruffian), sram 9.0 shifter and der, crupi squares pedals, 38t imperial chainwheel, brooklyn mw bar end caps, 24in rhyno lytes w hugi hayses hubs 6in rotor, thomson post, and arrow prime bite tires(24x2.75) | | Bottom Line: | I would like to thank gus at arrow for building such a great bike that handles better than any bike I have ridden before,also termite hudson at profile racing for having the best componets on the market. there is no telling what this bike can and cant do but man as soon as I sat on my finished arrow I felt confident, that is something very hard to do and i knew that this bike was what i was looking for. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
david
a Downhiller
from Vancouver, Wa Date Reviewed: April 28, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | skibowl oregon, jones creek dh | | Duration Product Used: | tested or demo'ed only | | Strengths: | every thing!!!! it is the best ds frame, if you ride dual slalom, but like to dirt jump and street ride this is your ride! | | Weaknesses: | nothing!!!!!! | | Similar Products Used: | nothing is the same as this bike! this is in a class of it own! | | Bike Setup: | arrow racing dss 6061-t6/carbon frame( with disk standard hayes mounts, re-enforcemets, everything! | | Bottom Line: | da bomb | Overall Rating: |
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