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Iron Horse
Yakuza Kumicho Type R
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Description:
- Frame - 8" Travel Dual Suspension Single Pivot
- Rear Shock - Manitou Swinger 4-Way Coil, 9"X2.75"
- Handle Bar - Easton EA50 31.8mm Low Rise, Clamp
- Stem - Race Face Evolve DH, 31.8mm Clamp
- Headset - FSA Orbit Is-2, W/ E-13 Reducer Cup
- Crank - FSA Gap Megaexo, 165mm
- Pedals - Crank Bros Mallet C Clipless
- Saddle - SDG Bel Air ST I-Beam
- Seatpost - SDG 6061 I-Beam
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Submitted by
Joe
a Downhiller
from Reno, Nevada
Date Reviewed: January 27, 2008 | | Favoriate Trail: | North Star | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$1700.00 | | Purchased At: | performancebike.com | | Strengths: | The bike as a whole is pretty much indestructible. The parts list that comes with it is great. After numerous hard falls and tumbles down mountains, all I have to do is pick the bike up and keep riding. SRAM drive train is a huge plus! Simple effective 3.thirteen chain guide that will not break no matter how many times I hit it. | | Weaknesses: | I'm not a real big fan of the swinger 4 way, its a good shock to keep the price of the bike down, but it just doesn't seem to have the right feel to it, even after being set up by professional riders. The Hayes brakes aren't the best, I broke one of them in a crash and the other in a different crash. | | Similar Products Used: | Demo 9 pro | | Bike Setup: | Switched out the pedals for soljam vipers, put ODI lock ons on it, switched the tires out to 2.35 nevegal up front and a 2.35 minion in the back, every thing else is stock. | | Bottom Line: | For my first down hill bike, this was by far the best bargain. Every one at the local club loved the bike and components and how it rode. The single pivot design is simple and effective.
After owning it for over a year the swinger 4 way seals have gone bad and it leaks air.
The wheel set is great too, very strong, stay true, and spin for ever!
I picked this bike up and was hoping to race in the spring of this year. I placed first in a couple local races and did well at Sea Otter. Only being 42 pounds is nice, and it'd be easy to get it under 40. Defiantly a bike I will have for a long time to come | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
dennis
a Downhiller
from NJ
Date Reviewed: January 5, 2008 | | Favoriate Trail: | DIABLO!!!!!!! | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$1200.00 | | Purchased At: | randall scott | | Strengths: | This is the best bike ever for the money. The frame soaks up everything that you throw at it. It's weight is hefty at about 46 lbs but its for DH not XC. The chain has never come off with the super light lg1 chainguide and the rear suspension is great. Nothing has ever broken. even after many crashes
-corners and handles like a sunday, really! | | Weaknesses: | i dont like the boxxer so i got a 888rc2xVA and its a little heavier but is much more plush
-x7 is really bad- | | Similar Products Used: | iron horse 7.3, giant faith, iron horse sunday | | Bike Setup: | new x9 drivetrain
new 888rc2x
avid codes-100% less stress on my fingers
funn pedals
| | Bottom Line: | great value
great bike | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
larry
a
from flakes
Date Reviewed: December 23, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | anything at diablo | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$300.00 | | Purchased At: | freind, only bought frame | | Strengths: | strong, looks good, great suspention design, 8" travel, 1.5 headtube(strong, reinforces gussets | | Weaknesses: | 1.5 headtube, because it pain to find a good reducing headset, reducer cups creek a lot, and either wy if you need a new headset, it will cost a lot | | Similar Products Used: | iron horse sunday, specialized big hit, yeti 303, many more | | Bike Setup: | 06 iron horse yakuza kumicho
05 khs dj200- custom | | Bottom Line: | great frame, im not sure about the components, but from what i know about them, they are very good, some of them ive ridden or own, and they are great | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Clay
a Racer
from DC
Date Reviewed: November 16, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$1400.00 | | Purchased At: | Performance Bikes | | Strengths: | Cheap, good parts spec, simple design, perfect geometry, great company. | | Weaknesses: | Bearing play issues (resolved with some help from IH, see thread in the forum), Swinger 4 way. | | Similar Products Used: | This is my first race bike. I ran a Giant AC with a Super T for a couple years of freeride. | | Bike Setup: | All stock except brakes and pedals, swapped Hayes 9s for Juicy's and Mallet C's for platforms. | | Bottom Line: | Perfect first race bike. This is probably the best value in DH. Even going used you're going to have trouble finding a race worthy rig for 1500, and you don't get a warranty. If you're looking to be the only guy at the mountain with your particular bike, look elsewhere. If you want a cheap bike that can compete out of the box, that is low, slack, long and rips twisty trails like a guided missile, pick one up. It was my first season racing and I ended up placing 1st in the series for beginners. I've been very happy with mine, and it's a damn shame that IH has discontinued the model. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Conner Casey
a Downhiller
from Novato, CA
Date Reviewed: September 5, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Livewire | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$1700.00 | | Purchased At: | Performance Bikes | | Strengths: | Very solid, great center of gravity, anything you through at it, it can handle. | | Weaknesses: | Not the biggest fan of the Super T, but exillent for the price! | | Similar Products Used: | Demo 9, Santa Cruz v10, Kona Stinky | | Bike Setup: | Fox 40rc2, Roco World Cup, Maxxis DH tires, Most stock tho. | | Bottom Line: | Best bike for price!!! great jumping, takes corners great! Strong frame. Just change fork and your good to take anything on!!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
James Cattermole
a Downhiller
from new zealand
Date Reviewed: August 26, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | my huck drop | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$1400.00 | | Purchased At: | internet | | Strengths: | Bloody awersome bike . sucks up so muck and is mint at freeride and downhill racing . it can do it all . | | Weaknesses: | I need a harder spring in the rear but thats it. The forks are as good as a flys fart. | | Similar Products Used: | none can compare! | | Bike Setup: | 888vfs up front , 5th element 3 way in rear , e-thirteen , truvativ cranks , mavic ex325 wheelset , 8 inch front and rear. | | Bottom Line: | Sick bike for the money but i did upgrade the forks which is a must! sweet bike and theese can do anything so get one!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
cxvxc xcvx
a
from Golden colorado
Date Reviewed: August 21, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | paid in full Keystone | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$1800.00 | | Purchased At: | randell scott | | Strengths: | Solid as hell. Take crazy corner like nothing. | | Weaknesses: | Not real fond of the Boxxer front shock. Sucks to get front tire off and on. Wish it had a little bit lower gear for the small climbs at the park. | | Similar Products Used: | Giant faith 2, Specialized rock hopper, | | Bike Setup: | stock | | Bottom Line: | Great bike worth every penny. Can't beat components for the price. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tim
a Downhiller
from Roanoke Virginia
Date Reviewed: August 21, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Power Line, Snowshoe W.V. | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$1200.00 | | Purchased At: | Randall Scott Cycles | | Strengths: | The frame, the drive train, the E13 chain guide, the cranks, the Wellgo pedals, the RAM shifters, the Hayes Hydraulic brakes, the wheelset...all stock stuff and work really well...you'll see the same stuff on bikes that cost double what this one runs | | Weaknesses: | The biggest gripe I had was the seat...just way uncomfortable..a Bel Air "I beam" type seat and dedicated post. I've heard these are fairly price-y, but I switched it out with a specialized seat and standard type post.
The grips were pretty crappy too, they're gone. The wtb tires weren't bad, but I like Intense FRO's that's what I put on it. The stock fork was a Marzo Super T, and that was switched to a Fox 40 RC2 that was on Bullit that I sold. | | Similar Products Used: | Kona Stinky Primo, Kona Stab Deluxe, Specialized Bighit, Specialized Demo 9, Santa Cruz Bullit. | | Bike Setup: | Please be advised, this review is for the Yakuza Kumicho DH, not the type R. The type R has the same frame but with slightly higher end components...basically the same bike though.
Yakuza Kumicho frame, Hayes9 SRAM, Fox 40 RC2, Intense FRO tires, Wellgo platform pedals, Truvative Husfeld cranks and chainring, E13 chain guide. | | Bottom Line: | I've owned the bike now for about 3 months and it just gets better with age. As other reviewers have pointed out, the faster you go, the better it handles, and I totally agree.
Obviously, it's not a V-10, or an Intense M3, but it is without a doubt a full-on DH rig for sure. Rips through rough rocky sections with ease, very stable in the air, takes big hits like a champ. It is a single pivot, but brake jack basically isn't there.
It rails turns and just loves to go fast. This is just my second season of DH, and I'm riding faster than ever due the confidence inspiring handling of this bike.
It will make you a better rider, and you will still have enough money for lift tickets! You simply will not find a bike that comes close for this kind of money.
Yes, some of the pivot bolts work loose, and the bolt that holds by cranks together tends to "back out" during hard DH riding, but they are minor issues.
It's nice and heavy with a nice steep rake. The 45" wheelbase is great. It's a dedicated gravity machine, so XC and "all mountain" fans need not apply. The only way it goes up hill easily in on the lift chair behind you!
You will see a lot of elite class racers on them nowadays...theytotally rock and cost 80% less than a high-end DH bike! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike
a Downhiller
from Las Vegas
Date Reviewed: August 6, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Gypsee | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$1600.00 | | Purchased At: | rendall scott.com | | Strengths: | TONS of travel and a nice parts spec for the price. It is so easy to go fast cause it inspires so much confidence and it is bullet proof. | | Weaknesses: | A little heavey (my large is 45lb), but hey its a downhill bike. Im goin to get hurt doing crzy things on this bike | | Similar Products Used: | giant reign x | | Bike Setup: | stock, but im goin to change out the pedals realy soon | | Bottom Line: | This bike is sick!!period. Though its heavy, it catches air so easily and makes the gnarliest rock gardens feel like silk. As said below the faster you go the better it feels. It is great for riders like me who aren't quite ready to spend $3000 and up. This is a great bike bar none! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Clay
a Downhiller
from Washington, DC
Date Reviewed: August 1, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Porcupine Rim | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$1400.00 | | Purchased At: | Performance | | Strengths: | Beefy, plush, incredible parts spec, and light. | | Weaknesses: | Pivot hardware issues. | | Similar Products Used: | Giant AC, RM7 | | Bike Setup: | Stock except for flat pedals and Juicy brakes. | | Bottom Line: | This is the best deal in downhill at the moment. It rails corners, eats rocks, and inspires confidence. The faster you go the better it feels.
8x8, 41lbs, slack, low and slick.
The pivot hardware often comes too long so the bearings dont get loaded properly. It is an easy fix if you know how to use a file, but just make sure there is no play after every ride. Same goes for any bike, and the Yakuza is made easier cause there is only 1 bolt to check.
I can feel myself getting faster riding this bike. Sections where I once grabbed handfuls of brake I can float right through.
This bike has plenty of seat tube so it can be pedaled on flat, but it DOES NOT CLIMB. Be prepared to push, but trust me, its worth it.
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Submitted by
Jose Leyva
a Downhiller
from San Diego
Date Reviewed: July 13, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | vons jumps | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$1200.00 | | Purchased At: | got off my cuzin | | Strengths: | Realy strong frame. handles awsome suspension feels great. breaking is awsome and the bike feels great in the air. | | Weaknesses: | rear shock is crap feels good when i isnt broken. have had some problems with the breaks. | | Similar Products Used: | big hit. Haro x2 | | Bike Setup: | floating rear disk break. manitou dorado front forks | | Bottom Line: | awsome bike. feels awsome over everything just change the fork and ur good. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
david milkiewicz
a Downhiller
from troy,ny
Date Reviewed: June 5, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | race couses | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$1800.00 | | Purchased At: | performancebike | | Strengths: | every thing, race worthy won my first at plattekill mtn.
strong frame.makes you feel confident with every big hit you see. | | Weaknesses: | not much my frame does creek but i do drop 15ft cliffs so it is alright | | Similar Products Used: | ---- | | Bike Setup: | 16" frame stock except for the platform pedals and i moved the hed st spacers around for more handel bar hight for dh racing. | | Bottom Line: | great bike for the money if you are just geting into the dh/fr sport buy it...any quetions on the bike email me at dmilkman589@netscape.net | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Joe
a Downhiller
from Reno, Nevada
Date Reviewed: May 29, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Tyrollian | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$1600.00 | | Purchased At: | performancebike.com | | Strengths: | Frame, Fork, Brakes, and the whole package in general. The rims are also very nice, I hammer mine over rough rock sections and have yet to mess a rim up. Also the hubs are amazing, they spin so well its amazing | | Weaknesses: | Maybe the rear shock, would've liked something a little different, but its still a great set up. grips need to be replaced. The placement of the rear deralliure cable is a little goofy and needs to be moved to the out side, but thats easy | | Similar Products Used: | demo nine pro | | Bike Setup: | Stock except for some ODI lock ons and some platform pedals | | Bottom Line: | After searching around for 3 months, this is the best bike for the money you'll spend. My whole club was suprised when I rolled in on it, they though I payed 1600 for the frame, not the whole deal. This is my first DH bike, but its a great bike. Easy to use, tune, keep clean, and will always come back asking for more | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dom
a Weekend Warrior
from Timmins, Ontario, Canada
Date Reviewed: May 18, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$2000.00 | | Purchased At: | performance bicycles | | Strengths: | Basically everything. The boxxer race doesnt flex. The specs are great. The frame is just so sexy and rides as good as it looks.... | | Weaknesses: | the grips suck..... The pedals that come stock (mallet c's) are spd ones, so if you're not used to them just buy other pedals.. | | Similar Products Used: | Norco a-line, kona stab, rocky mountain switch... | | Bike Setup: | Stock, but changing grips and might buy dee max rims | | Bottom Line: | Simply the best bike for the bucks. I recommend it for hardcore freeride and downhill, but it's kind of heavy (but surprisingly light for how burly the frame is) so it's no good for uphill riding, even though it pedals super well with the SPV platform on the back shock..... I can't really find a weakness on this bike.... | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Stephen Cocanour
a Downhiller
from Phoenix, Arizona, USA
Date Reviewed: February 18, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | National | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$2000.00 | | Purchased At: | Performance Bicycle | | Strengths: | Forks, rear shock, almost everything. This bike is the best. I have it set up stock except for the pedals, sprocket, and cassette. It was geared way to high for some of the trails that I like to ride. Now it is perfect. Frame is bullet proof. | | Weaknesses: | Maybee the weight, but all strong DH bikes like this one way just as much if not more. | | Similar Products Used: | Iron Horse 7 Point 3, Iron Horse Warrior | | Bottom Line: | This is a great bike, it will handle anything that you throw at it. It takes the turns so well, and screams down the hills with no bouncing. The suspension is perfect for the bike. I would reccomend this bike to anyone. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
david milkiewicz
a Downhiller
from troy,ny,us
Date Reviewed: December 25, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | dh coarse jiminy peak | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$1700.00 | | Purchased At: | internet-performancebike.com | | Strengths: | intensely strong and beify frame,great shocks | | Weaknesses: | definatly does not do 180 degree turns and no bar spins | | Similar Products Used: | mongoose wing comp pro | | Bike Setup: | 16INCH FRAME with seat post cut 4 inches | | Bottom Line: | best bike for the money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ben Hobbs
a Downhiller
from New Zealand
Date Reviewed: November 24, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | double down | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$2500.00 | | Purchased At: | wangunui | | Strengths: | The bike can handle the punishment you can throw anything at it and it will still be as good as the day you brought it.Although it has a back suspension it still pedals like a hardtail.The suspension is extremely soft which takes out all the rough bumps and makes pedling even easier. | | Weaknesses: | So far i have had no problems with the bike. | | Similar Products Used: | Giant dh comp | | Bottom Line: | This is a cheap bike for its top of the line components.I recomend this bike to beginer downhillers and to extreme downhillers. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Matt Owen
a Downhiller
from Leeds
Date Reviewed: August 7, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | Silton | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | Pearce Cycles | | Strengths: | This bike is perfect for me, the price at £2000.00 was mroe then reasonable. The mechanism of forks and swing arm is super smooth gear changes with the x-9 are smooth and the hayes 9's make braking controlled and comfy. A real head turner this rig comes with some of the best parts on the market for a price that makes the frame some sort of free'be. | | Weaknesses: | Trouble Ive had with this bike is 1 thing. Rear axle im not sure why or how but it just seems to wriggle its way loose. On long runs such as frot Bill I really would begin to worry even if I tightened it at the top before my run. Lost the bolt from one end in France last month that was fun lol. Im sure its me doing something wrong but that really is the only thing I can pick up that has ever gone wrong with this bike. | | Similar Products Used: | Santa Cruz, VP Free and Orange 224 GBR | | Bottom Line: | This bike is a bargain and a dream to ride; comfey, Fast, Trustworthy. If your looking for a bike to get where you dont want to spend too much that your bike is worth more than your car but not be so cheap it will snap dropping from a kerb then this is the bike for you. Phone Pearce Cycles up they will order you one into the UK and for £2000.00 you wont find a better spec'd ride for that price. and the Frame aint the cheap bit if your thinking 'but how do they make profit' this frame was designed and built for an un-named downhill world cup rider who snapped a few sundays. His aggressive style caused problems in the Sunday so they kitted up the yakuza with better parts and called it the Type R. BOTTOM LINE LOVE IT!!! if you want a bike get this one! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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