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Submitted by
Alan
a Cross Country Rider
from Toronto, Canada
Date Reviewed: 5/7/2006 8:40:32 PM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 2 Years |
| Purchased At: | Came with bike |
| Weaknesses: | i got some play inside the bottom bracket which can kill the rings, heavy |
| Similar Products Tried: | shimano xt = actually pretty gd |
| Bike Setup: | santa cruz chameleon, fox vanilla rl 125, chris king, thomson, easton ct2, xt/xtr & raceface, hope m4 & avid juicy 7, x317, 519 |
| Bottom Line: | at least get the signature series, or go xt except u need xt crack but its all good still |
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Submitted by
JOSH PARRISH
a Downhiller
from CONGLETON
Date Reviewed: 8/11/2005 12:01:28 PM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | FOL HOLLOW DOWN HILL TRACK |
| Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month |
| Purchased At: | DREAM CYCLES |
| Strengths: | REALLY STRONG AND A NICE WEIGHT. FEELS GOOD TO RIDE THE BEST BOTTOM BRACKET I HAVE EVER HAD |
| Weaknesses: | NOTHING |
| Similar Products Tried: | HOPE VERY GOOD AS WELL EXPENSIVE RED |
| Bike Setup: | DMR TRAILSTAR 2 FRAME IN BLACK DIRT JUMPER 2 FORKS V12 MAGNESIUM PEDALS HOPE BOTTOM BRACKET RACE FACE DEUS CRANKS HOPE GOLD HEADSET DMR MOTO DIGGER TYRES ATOMLAB AIR CORP RIMS 24" WHEELS JUMP SEAT RACE FACE BARS WORTH £150 |
| Bottom Line: | MY BIKE IS WORTH £1100 AND I LUV YOUR BOTTOM BRACKET IS IS AMAZING BUY THE PRODUCT IT IS VERY VERY GOOD AND ITS WORTH THE MONEY |
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Submitted by
MisterWizard
a Downhiller
from Abq. NM
Date Reviewed: 11/23/2004 3:07:03 PM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 1 Year |
| Strengths: | Reliability, smooth. |
| Similar Products Tried: | other raceface, saint and other shimano |
| Bike Setup: | P.2 with Sherman Flick. |
| Bottom Line: | This is the most reliable BB I've ever seen used. Been riding trials with it for over a year now and there's no hint of a problem yet. It has a lot of miles on it, since I ride my P.2 to work 4 or 5 days a week, about 17 miles round trip. Still smooth, maintenance free. |
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Submitted by
drew
a Downhiller
from armstong canada
Date Reviewed: 10/18/2004 2:57:21 PM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | anything dangerous |
| Duration Product Used: | 1 Year |
| Purchased At: | used |
| Strengths: | rebuildable, you can put new bearings in them. If you regrease and clean them a few times a year they will last. |
| Weaknesses: | bearings and races will go if you don't clean and grease the gutts on these units, |
| Bike Setup: | 2004 cove stiffee fr |
| Bottom Line: | i liked mine, bought it used so its about 3 years old now, went slopy just recently so i put new bearings in it, and it feels pretty good now. |
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Submitted by
Erick
a Cross Country Rider
from San Diego, CA
Date Reviewed: 9/29/2004 1:09:44 PM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | PQ, Black Mtn |
| Duration Product Used: | 3 months |
| Price Paid: | $30 |
| Purchased At: | Nashbar |
| Strengths: | Looks pretty |
| Weaknesses: | Incredibly weak product. Doesn't last. |
| Similar Products Tried: | Evolve |
| Bottom Line: | This BB is terrible, don't waste your money. I purchased mine on 7-26-04, it seized 9-27-04. I ride 3 times a week or so, 15 to 20 miles per ride. I knew it was inexpensive, but I figured a Race Face BB would last at least a year or so. Very disappointed to say the least. |
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Submitted by
Scott
from Denver
Date Reviewed: 3/15/2004 9:17:02 PM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | anywhere in Fruita |
| Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years |
| Price Paid: | $30 |
| Purchased At: | Over the Edge |
| Strengths: | Strong, durable, lasted me for 5 years with no troubles at all! |
| Weaknesses: | none |
| Similar Products Tried: | Shimano |
| Bike Setup: | SC blur |
| Bottom Line: | I have ridden on the prodigy ISIS now for about 5 years with no problems at all. I dont know if I got lucky or what but this thing has been perfect for me. I never had to do a thing to it. It just recently went out on me after 5 ears of riding, this bb was on my old Klein back in '99. I recently pulled off one of the cranks and a bunch of water came gushing out, the old race face was done! I just bought another one for $25.00 off of Pricepoint. |
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Submitted by
Henk De Ruyter
a Cross Country Rider
from Holland
Date Reviewed: 2/26/2004 11:36:58 AM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | Gulpen, Holland |
| Duration Product Used: | 3 months |
| Price Paid: | $150 |
| Purchased At: | local store |
| Strengths: | The look (together with the crank of course) ! |
| Weaknesses: | The quality !! It was good the first 5 weeks, then it broke !! |
| Similar Products Tried: | Shimano XT |
| Bike Setup: | Van Tuyl-frame, Manitou Skareb Super, Shimano XT-XTR, Crossmax, Magura Marta, Eggbeaters |
| Bottom Line: | Bought it as a complete kit because I wanted something else then Shimano and also it looked cool ! First, their was the weight, 720 gr only the crank and the chainrings, so too heavy !! Then the bottom bracket, only 5 weeks and I could change it !!! If I knew, I never bought it !!! Back to the original and still the best, Shimano XT !!! |
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Submitted by
Ben Dawson
a Racer
from Peterborough, ON, Canada
Date Reviewed: 2/16/2004 12:34:41 PM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 2 Years |
| Purchased At: | Came with NRS-1 |
| Strengths: | Cheap, works. |
| Weaknesses: | Weight? Dunno, you pay for what you get |
| Bike Setup: | Had it on a 2002 NRS-1 |
| Bottom Line: | Well, maybe I got lucky cause mine lasted me 5000km's and about 50 races untill it crapped out. Got play in the spindle, shot the bearings, so I replaced it with another one. No complaints.........I rode the crap out of the thing. |
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Submitted by
Andrew
a Cross Country Rider
from Alberta, Canada
Date Reviewed: 7/22/2003 6:53:29 PM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 1 Year |
| Purchased At: | local bike store |
| Strengths: | none, cheap price |
| Weaknesses: | failed in one year, contaminants in, |
| Similar Products Tried: | shimano |
| Bike Setup: | Giant AC Air |
| Bottom Line: | don't buy it |
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Submitted by
Holy Toledo
a Weekend Warrior
from Davis, CA
Date Reviewed: 3/26/2003 4:52:28 PM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 6 months |
| Purchased At: | Natomas Bike |
| Strengths: | It's stronger than a wet noodle, barely. |
| Weaknesses: | 3 month life span. The Yugo of bottom brackets. |
| Similar Products Tried: | Shimano |
| Bike Setup: | Stock NRS1 '02 |
| Bottom Line: | It's a POS! I thought Giant saved me money by equipping a Deore front derailuer instead of an LX or Xt... but, now I can see that they saved money by choosing to go with this crappy bottom bracket. It wouldn't surprize me if Prodigy had to pay Giant to equip this crap on the NRS!!! |
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Submitted by
GDog
a Weekend Warrior
from Milwaukee, WI
Date Reviewed: 1/1/2003 3:50:42 PM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 6 months |
| Price Paid: | $1600 |
| Purchased At: | LBS |
| Strengths: | None |
| Weaknesses: | Bearings were shot after 4 months of riding Cranks came off three times while I was riding! |
| Similar Products Tried: | Shimano (rocked) |
| Bike Setup: | Giant NRS 1 Stock |
| Bottom Line: | Not only is this bottom bracket poor design, I am amazed that Race Face has not recalled the product. I see lawsuits coming their way from this one. It is downright dangerous. I will not buy another Race Face product. |
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Submitted by
handlebars
a Weekend Warrior
from indiana
Date Reviewed: 10/20/2002 5:48:04 PM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | challenge park extreme |
| Duration Product Used: | 6 months |
| Price Paid: | $30 |
| Purchased At: | lbs |
| Strengths: | hmm, let me see.....none |
| Weaknesses: | blows up!!! yeah, that's a weakness isn't it? |
| Similar Products Tried: | taprelock on it's way |
| Bike Setup: | '02 specialized enduro, psylo sl, raceface cranks, fox shock, alex rims and xt drivetrain |
| Bottom Line: | sh!t, sh!t, sh!t.!!! had this thing 4 months and have had it replaced twice already. creaks,grinds and sounds like a chain stuck between gears if you put any force on it. then after a couple a weeks it goes bad. oh, yeah...those noises come out of it asap!!! stay away. real P.O.S. |
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Submitted by
Buster Browne
a Cross Country Rider
from Austin
Date Reviewed: 10/1/2002 10:12:14 AM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 6 months |
| Strengths: | Spins... holds cranks. |
| Weaknesses: | Didn't last very long... not sealed well at all... yada yada. |
| Similar Products Tried: | Shimano |
| Bike Setup: | stuff |
| Bottom Line: | Mmm, it lasted a few months before I noticed that it wouldn't spin when the cranks were off. So I used it some more and noticed the same thing when i pulled the cranks later. I was able to spin the spindle by USING THE CRANK ARMS for leverage. I pulled the seal and bearing carrier and found a nice glop of rusty junk. Nice. I repacked with grease but um, yeah. I'm using a square BB now, so I haven't used this since, but I have a feeling it won't last long. Need better seals or cartridge bearings. Or, just make it fully serviceable so I can pull the thing apart after wet rides. |
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Submitted by
Dan Hensley
a Weekend Warrior
from Nashville
Date Reviewed: 8/20/2002 5:04:36 PM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | HC |
| Duration Product Used: | 1 Year |
| Price Paid: | $20 |
| Purchased At: | online |
| Strengths: | Cheap (inexpesive also) |
| Weaknesses: | Seemed like one of the bearings went to dust. It started to have play in it within 3 months. Eventually started to throw chain in high torque situations, which can be VERY bad. |
| Similar Products Tried: | Just installed FSA Ultimax Extreme Pro |
| Bike Setup: | Fuel, RaceFace turbines, Black, Avid Disc, XT, Rhynolytes |
| Bottom Line: | The Prodigy BB I used on my hardtail lasted until I transplanted all the good parts on to the Fuel, which used a different size BB. I had problems with this one within 6 months. The RF Turbines and chain rings are wonderful,(not cheap) but remember... when you by cheap stuff, you get cheap stuff. I would be weary of anything you can't work on or rebuild. Throw away parts are just that, throw away. I gave it 2 chili's because I did get my money's worth. |
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Submitted by
Steve
from Maryland
Date Reviewed: 7/22/2002 12:46:09 PM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 1 Year |
| Weaknesses: | Failed very early on... |
| Bottom Line: | Do not get it. I hope as well that Race Face has fixed the problem.... My bb came out after 200 miles. Developed play and rolls like a wagon wheel on cement.... |
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Submitted by
Andrew bicsher
a Weekend Warrior
from Everett
Date Reviewed: 7/15/2002 10:24:31 PM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | dead rabbit trail/galbraith |
| Duration Product Used: | 3 months |
| Price Paid: | $40 |
| Purchased At: | Bike Works/Lake Stevens |
| Strengths: | None, Lasted three months,enough said. |
| Weaknesses: | Does not measure up to other Race Face products, bearings shot in less than three weeks. piece of junk. |
| Similar Products Tried: | Race Face prodigy with taperlock bottom bracket on Rocky Slayer, never one problem in over 18 months. |
| Bike Setup: | K2 Brass Monkey, just the way it came from the factory. |
| Bottom Line: | Really cool bike Sucks the big one to not have a bike because of a really crappy product put out by a very good company. Race face should recall all of these things and give them to Huffy. They still might not be good enough for Huffy. Spent all my change on the bike now I can't come up with money for labor and parts to get back on the trail. Thanks a lot you freakin canucks now I can't ride, "take off aye." |
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Submitted by
Chris
a Weekend Warrior
from Massachusetts
Date Reviewed: 7/8/2002 7:46:21 AM |
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| Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month |
| Price Paid: | $29 |
| Strengths: | The BB cup can retain my chain tensioner. |
| Weaknesses: | The bearings suck bad. |
| Similar Products Tried: | RF taperlock, Shimano UN72 |
| Bike Setup: | Schwinn Homegrown 6banger, king wheels, rf cranks, xtr comps, stratos suspension |
| Bottom Line: | I've only had this a month and I can hear and feel the bearings clunking around already. I just replaced my taperlock on my xc bike for the same reason. That lasted 3 years though. RF should be ashamed to put such a piece of crap out like this. Completely useless bb in my opinion. If I had known it was this bad I would have bought one of the more expensive ones and the DH cup. I only paid 29 bucks for the thing, but it should still last more than a month. |
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Submitted by
richard ecclestone
a Cross Country Rider
from uk
Date Reviewed: 7/6/2002 4:41:29 AM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 6 months |
| Price Paid: | $40 |
| Strengths: | Cheap, Raceface replaced the unit under warranty |
| Weaknesses: | Bearings worn out after 5 months, bearings not replaceable. |
| Similar Products Tried: | Shimano XT |
| Bike Setup: | Giant XTC team, Hope c2, Hope sport hubs on 517, xtr, raceface |
| Bottom Line: | The bearings on this unit are obviously not upto british weather - I allways store my bike inside, but the prodigy just doesent seam to be sealed adequatly to keep out the goo. Raceface replaced the unit free of charge which I upgraded through the shop to a raceface XS unit, unfortunatly this is just as bad. |
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Submitted by
Tino
a Weekend Warrior
from CT
Date Reviewed: 7/5/2002 2:55:27 PM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 3 months |
| Price Paid: | $35 |
| Purchased At: | local shop |
| Strengths: | ISIS is stiff inexpensive |
| Weaknesses: | very very weak and cheap, bearings start to go after only 3 months of riding |
| Similar Products Tried: | Shimano UN52 |
| Bike Setup: | 2001 RM Pipeline - Super T QR20, XT stuff, Race Face DH cranks, Azonic Shorty Stem, 24 inch rear wheel, Hayes discs |
| Bottom Line: | I have always had great expierience with Race Face gear but this really suprises me.....I hoping for a recall or something because this is not the kind of product Race Face should be making. |
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Submitted by
Mike
a Weekend Warrior
from Webster, NY
Date Reviewed: 7/2/2002 9:33:11 AM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 6 months |
| Price Paid: | $35 |
| Purchased At: | Pricepoint |
| Strengths: | ISIS is stiff |
| Weaknesses: | Major play after only a few months |
| Similar Products Tried: | Truvativ ISIS DH, Shimano tapered |
| Bike Setup: | Truvativ Stylo Team ISIS cranks |
| Bottom Line: | Like pretty much everyone else posting, I found that this bottom bracket almost made it 6 months before the bearings gave up. Now there's just way too much play in the bracket. I hope Race Face is keeping an eye on these reviews so they can step up and do something about it. |
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Submitted by
James Michaels
a Cross Country Rider
from London, England
Date Reviewed: 7/2/2002 12:37:33 AM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 3 months |
| Strengths: | ISIS drive is noticably stiffer than square taper. |
| Weaknesses: | Bearings are shot after a little over three months. |
| Bike Setup: | R.M. Blizzard |
| Bottom Line: | Fifteen weeks of XC riding and it's shot. What a thoroughly cheap and nasty product this is. Did I say cheap? They cost £35 here in the UK! That's more expensive than the SRX. I didn't realise Race face made anything cheaper than Prodigy which all means that I now have to lay out serious money to get anything better. |
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Submitted by
Petr
a Downhiller
from North Vancouver BC Canada
Date Reviewed: 6/27/2002 6:09:25 PM |
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| Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month |
| Price Paid: | $30 |
| Purchased At: | Cove Bike Shop |
| Strengths: | Isis is good No creaking |
| Weaknesses: | Lasted only about 4 weeks Useless for freeriding |
| Bike Setup: | Kona Stinky Nine with 02 monster T's |
| Bottom Line: | This thing sucks. Go for the Raceface Signature FR. It will last way longer |
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Submitted by
Todd
a Cross Country Rider
from Scranton, PA
Date Reviewed: 6/23/2002 12:23:19 PM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | any |
| Duration Product Used: | 3 months |
| Strengths: | ISis design hold up good no creaking noise |
| Weaknesses: | Just after 100 miles it's done Had to buy a new BB Very bad grinding when you spin the spindle |
| Similar Products Tried: | XT BB, Shimano cheap ass BB's RF Signature |
| Bike Setup: | Giant NRS 1, was stock, now added thomson seat post and rf sig BB |
| Bottom Line: | This is a horrible item, unless you do not use the bottom bracket it is not worth buying. With just under a 100 miles on it i pulled it out to check it and it was grinding horribly. You can't change the bearings so the BB is now garbage. Race Face should not sell such a horrible part. |
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Submitted by
Chas
a Racer
from Upper St, NY
Date Reviewed: 6/13/2002 7:41:55 AM |
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| Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month |
| Strengths: | Price |
| Weaknesses: | Sub-standard product. |
| Similar Products Tried: | Tru-Vativ |
| Bottom Line: | I have used this product about 100 miles and it is now toast. Whenever any amount of force is applied, I get this very "metal on metal" grinding sound. That can't be good...so I decided to take this dog out and put it out of its misery. The BB was free so I gave it a shot and would recommend that nobody buy this product. If it comes free with the cranks, go ahead and try it, but be prepared to replace it. I'll give it 3 chili's for value, but 1 for overall. Bottom line is that this BB will NOT last. |
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Submitted by
Jake
a Cross Country Rider
from Portland, OR
Date Reviewed: 5/30/2002 1:07:59 PM |
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| Duration Product Used: | 6 months |
| Price Paid: | $35 |
| Purchased At: | FTF |
| Strengths: | Strong spindle, solid connection to cranks, no flex. Less $ than a bag of BC bud (a canadian product that's actually good.) |
| Weaknesses: | Same as the other reviews: tons of play in the bearings after only a short period. |
| Similar Products Tried: | Shimano BBs, World Class. |
| Bike Setup: | XC hardtail. X-fly 100, hayes/rhyno lite, XTR, raceface turbine, easton monkey light carbon, thomsen stem/post, tioga DH 2.1r - 2.3f. |
| Bottom Line: | Crappy bearings make baby Jesus cry. |
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Submitted by
Robert
a Weekend Warrior
from Mt. Seymour
Date Reviewed: 5/17/2002 3:00:06 AM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | Cardiac Bypass |
| Duration Product Used: | 6 months |
| Price Paid: | $50 |
| Purchased At: | Cove Bikes |
| Strengths: | ISIS. Works when new. |
| Weaknesses: | Doesn't work well for very long. |
| Similar Products Tried: | Shimano, other RF BBs |
| Bike Setup: | Cove Stiffe FR with 5" Bomber |
| Bottom Line: | If you have some tools and can get this BB cheap, then go ahead and plan on replacing it often. It doesn't last. The internals (bearings?) get loose very quickly. Cranks come off easy as their slopping around. They shouldn't loosen up so quickly. Weak design. RF should know better than to put out crappy components. |
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Submitted by
Peter Marth
from Park City UT usa
Date Reviewed: 5/8/2002 11:44:34 AM |
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| Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month |
| Purchased At: | Mail Order.. |
| Strengths: | Cheap/Race Face Name |
| Weaknesses: | Poor specs, poor reviews, made in Taiwan, has the Race Face name, and Hsin-Sin-Chien-Huffy quality.... |
| Similar Products Tried: | Taperlocks-all kinds |
| Bike Setup: | Prodigy XC Crankset |
| Bottom Line: | Oh Geez. A STORY and 1/2. Bought a RF Prodigy Crankset with a middle-end RF BB. Spindle bolts came loose three times. The directions say put GREASE on the bolt threads. Boy was this a mistake. I could not keep em from loosening. Wonder if Race Face has ever heard of LOCKTITE? They came WAY loose three times, damaging the crank splines. So, I cranked on the bolts way past the suggested values, but by now, the damage was done. The arms would wiggle back and forth on the spindle. I bought another crankset/bb combo (Prod) but the crank would not bottom on the flange stop!! Even at 75 lbs of torque!! Can you say "quality control"? In reading the reviews, I am NOT optimistic. Maybe I should use the new Crank with the OLD higher-quality bb?????BIGMESS |
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Submitted by
simon
a Weekend Warrior
from plymouth, england
Date Reviewed: 5/2/2002 10:54:53 AM |
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| FavoriteTrail: | Newnham park XC course |
| Duration Product Used: | 1 Year |