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Gary Fisher
Supercaliber Bike
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Submitted by
XCracer
a Racer
from Oslo, Norway Date Reviewed: November 24, 2004 | | Favoriate Trail: | Nordmarka, Oslo, Norway | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | Everything. Light weight, good geometry, wisely chosen parts, good wheels, light and stiff frame, | | Weaknesses: | Disliked the stock Sungio crank with 24, 34, 46 chainrings (or was it 26, 36, 48?). A 24x30 as the lowest gear was too high for me at the time (I was only 12-13 years old when I bought the bike). Changed to a 22, 32, 44 LX crank and everything was OK. No lockout on the SID (no-one had lockout at the time, so I guess it doesn't count as a weakness) | | Similar Products Used: | 2001 Kona Explosif Scandium 2002 Scott Team Issue Scandium 2003 Scott Team Issue Scandium 2004 Scott Team Issue Scandium 2005 Scott Scale Carbon???? | | Bike Setup: | 1998: Gary Fisher Supercaliber (small) Rock Shox SID LX crank, XT BB, XTR/XT derailleurs 8-speed, XT STI, XTR brakes, XT cassette Mavic CrossMax (ceramic, non-UST) Bontrager, Thomson, WTB, Time Atac.... | | Bottom Line: | I used the Supercaliber for three seasons (1998-2000), and if it hadn't been too small for me now, I think I could still have used it in races (with a lockable fork). I didn't true the wheels for three seasons.
A great bike for fast XC-racers. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
max
a Cross Country Rider
from Portland, OR Date Reviewed: September 19, 2004 | | Favoriate Trail: | Gail's Creek Trail | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$400.00 | | Purchased At: | Washington State | | Strengths: | Weight, durability, handling, and especially climbing ability! | | Weaknesses: | None that i can see as of now. | | Similar Products Used: | Trek 4500 | | Bike Setup: | Pretty much all jumbled... bontrager wheels, shimano brakes... everything is by another company. | | Bottom Line: | This bike kicks ass. thats pretty much the bottom line. Im 14 years old and got the frame, some nice shocks and the handle bar for 400 bucks. people... dont just buy the first bike that you see and like... look around on ebay.com and craigslist.com for the same bike. anyway, awesome handling (I ride some nasty singletrack on this thing), great cog (center of grav) buy it YOU WONT BE SORRY. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John DeVivo
a Cross Country Rider
from Andover, ME USA Date Reviewed: August 27, 2003 | | Favoriate Trail: | Palisades at Sunday River | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$1900.00 | | Purchased At: | Mount Snow | | Strengths: | The frame (6061 Alum) is indestructible. I've ridden & raced it since 1997, and it just keeps on going strong! | | Weaknesses: | There are no weaknesses. The spec was great (full XT) when I bought it, and I've continually upgraded or replaced as needed. | | Similar Products Used: | 1996 Supercaliber. Sold after one season to buy the '97. | | Bike Setup: | 2003 Duke XC, XTR/Mavic 517 wheelset, 2000 - 2003 XTR/XT/LX component mix, Cane Creek C-5 headset & Thudbuster post, recent upgrade to 9 speed setup. | | Bottom Line: | This is one of the finest hardtail frames ever made. It just keeps on churning out the miles and taking on the upgrades. There's not one single original component left on it, and I've ridden and raced it for almost seven years. The '97 (aluminum, not that weak Paola Pezzo carbon) Supercaliber frame is the absolute bomb. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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Jeff
a Cross Country Rider
from Casper, Wyoming Date Reviewed: June 3, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$1300.00 | | Purchased At: | Mountain Sports, Casper | | Strengths: | Weight, stiffness, manuverability, and vibration control. | | Bike Setup: | I keep this awsome frame up to date by hanging the newist components on it when the old ones break. | | Bottom Line: | I hope this frame lasts another 9 years! I love it and will be hard pressed to find something new that will fit me as well. If you are looking for a frame that is ultra light and stiff enough for a 200 lb rider to abuse OCLV is the way to go. I regret that Fisher no longer offers the OCLV in their geomitry. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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Andrew Andrew
a Racer
from Norwalk, CT Date Reviewed: September 10, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$1600.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Light, Reasonably Stiff, Absorbs shock, Great climber and descender. | | Weaknesses: | top tube a little long for tight singletrack but that is why I can outclimb anyone. | | Bike Setup: | mix | | Bottom Line: | This was an early OCLV frame. I loved this bike. After 7.5 years, 4 drivetrains, and over 10,000 miles the bottom bracket shell separated from the carbon fiber. I am sad.
Gary Fisher is going to give me a 2002 Sugar 1 frame as a replacement. I am happy. Too bad the replacement is taking so long.
Two thumbs up for Gary Fisher! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
steven trottier
a Racer
from WINSTON-SALEM N.c USA Date Reviewed: December 23, 2001 | | Favoriate Trail: | HOBBY PARK | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$1200.00 | | Purchased At: | PACELINE, I BOUGHT IT USED | | Strengths: | VERY LIGHT AND QUICK AROUND TURNS. GOOD HILL CLIMBER UP ALL THOSE HARD HILLS. GREAT ALL AROUND CROSS COUNTRY RACE BIKE | | Weaknesses: | NOT ALOT OF MUD CLEARANCE IN THE REAR AND IT CLOGS UP SO U HAVE TO STOP AND WIPE IT OFF THE SEAT POST BAR THING. A LITTLE $ FOR A 14 YEAR OLD. LONG REACH TO THE HANDLEBARS | | Similar Products Used: | CANNONDALE,LITESPEEED | | Bike Setup: | FULL XTR, SID,CROSSMAX'S, THOMPSON, BONTRAGOR STEM, 21 POUNDS! | | Bottom Line: | I REALLY LOVE MY GARY FISHER. I LIKE THE LIGHTNESS AND QUICKNESS DURING RACES AND JUST MESSING AROUND. EVEN THOUGH IT IS GETTIN OLD AND THE ORIGINAL PRODUCS ALL WORE OUT THE FRAME IS STILL STRONG AND IN TACT. I LOVE IT! SOOOOOOO LIGHT~!;) U SHOULD BUY THIS BIKE IF YU ARE A SERIOUS RACER WHO WANTS TO IMPROVE YOUR RIDING IT SURE HELPED MINE. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Steve
a Weekend Warrior
from Colorado Springs, CO Date Reviewed: October 24, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Light weight, geometry, components | | Weaknesses: | I have no complaints | | Similar Products Used: | several cheaper hardtails | | Bike Setup: | pretty much stock (lx/xt Manitou 3) for all the important stuff. The only thing I have replaced is a set of worn out tires. | | Bottom Line: | This is a great bike. The person I bought it from did some racing and did fairly well with it I'm told. But I ride just for fun, and I ride everything from the street (I use to commute to work on it) to some nasty single track. I really like how light this bike is, and how it handles. This bikes a few years old now, but I really haven't had to replace anything except tires because this thing is so durable. I traded bikes with a friend once during the middle of a ride and almost didn't get it back.
This is a great all around bike, the person before me raced it, but I like it as a great everyday bike. Its a great bike, if you want a hard tail you should consider this one, get one if you can and you wont regret it. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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Kenneth Allen
a Cross Country Rider
from Chattanooga, Tn USA Date Reviewed: March 10, 2000 | | Favoriate Trail: | can't tell | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Light weight, geometry | | Weaknesses: | construction and paint quality | | Similar Products Used: | Schwinn Homegrown Factory, Diamond Back DBR Hard tail | | Bike Setup: | xt/xtr, SID, CrossMax | | Bottom Line: | I noticed this product listed in the hall of fame. In my opinion it shouldn't be. The geometry is nice and the frame is pretty light but the construction and paint quality is lacking. I've had three these things--the first one broke at the head tube, the second at the seat tube, and all three looked like they had been to war after a few hundred miles. Get a better bike. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
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patrick couser
a Cross-Country Rider
from fremantle, western australia Date Reviewed: October 20, 1999 | | Favoriate Trail: | south downs (UK) | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Geometry, weight, components, WTB velociraptor tires | | Weaknesses: | paint chips badly | | Similar Products Used: | Konas, Cannondale | | Bike Setup: | king headset, the rest is pretty much stock | | Bottom Line: | After a season of hard racing in sport category, I came away with the points series and second in the state champs. The bike definitely helped. Its an awsome climber, combination of geometry, light weight and great traction (in dry hardpack) with the velociraptor rear. Handles well in the decents, tough you need to run quite a high pressure in the SID forks. Great for single track. Overall an excellent bike which I would recommend to anyone. I ride a medium and am 5'11. Its held up well with hard riding, the only slight downer is that the paint job is prone to chipping, but not enough of a problem not to give it 5. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
patrick couser
a racer
from perth western australia Date Reviewed: March 10, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
I bought my 98 supercaliber second hand and have had it for a few months. Ive done one big race on it: Karri Cup http://www.wantree.com.au/~pimms/northcliffe . The bike is great, superlight, manoeuvrable, climbs like nothing else, is awesome in the single track (up or down) and still descends well on all terrain. So far I have nothing to say against it - only praise. I especially love the Genesis geometry, which puts everything in the right place. Im just under 6' and weigh about 67-70kg. I have the medium, I used to have a 17.5 Marin, but the supercaliber fits better. get one, you wont regret it. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
ROBERTO PORTER
a racer
from MEXICO CITY Date Reviewed: October 1, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
SUPERCALIBER ´98 IS SPECIALY DESIGNED FOR XC RACING AND YOU WILL REALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE WHILE CLIMBING. WITH A VERY INTELIGENT MIX OF COMPONENTS (COROSMAX AN THE SID ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT), IS A TOP PERFORMER AT A REACHABLE PRICE. I MIGHT SPEND $300 TO MAKE IT LIGHTER YET BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO UPGRADE FIRST (CRANKSET?, B.BRACKET?, CASSETTE?... WILL APPRECIATE ADVICE). THE ONLY SAD THING IS THAT THERE ARE NO FISHER DISTRIBUITORS IN MEXICO AND GT AND CANNONDALE ARE SELLING LOTS OF MEDIOCRE BIKES HERE. SALUDOS. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ola Linder
a cross-country rider
from Sweden Date Reviewed: September 9, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I am riding a ´98 Supercaliber with the new Genesis Geometry. I only bought the frame and I have spec´d it with Magura HS33, XTR and stuff like that. There isnt very much to say about it, except that it rocks. With the Genesis geometry the bike is unique upwards. When it goes downhill it works as well. Just ONE tip: spec the bike with a short stem. It doesnt have to be extremely short but quite short. If you dont, the bike will fell very long and uncomfortable. I did that mistake but now when I have fixed that the bike is a dream. There is no way to describe what it feels like - go try one for yourself. You WONT be disappointed. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Gren
a cross-country rider
from Mesa, AZ Date Reviewed: September 4, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
My friend and I both own Garys. I have loved my Mamba since day one (It's what I learned on), but, after riding my friends Supercaliber, I have decided to put my beast to rest. By comparison, it's an awesome handling bike, lightweight, a good climber (I mean, you can STAND on the thing!), and stiff. The only down points I can find are that it's squirrely in the rough stuff (I ride National Trail out here on South Mountain...if you're ever in the neighborhood and want a downhill technical that'll scare the skin off a billy goat, try it!) and the color makes me wretch. Saving grace points are that I could get used to the handling characteristics given time and Gary was kind enough to change the colors this year. Only an awesome bike like this could make me give up Old Faithful. I think, though that I'm going to start from scratch with just the bare frame as I'm a customs freak. Wonder if I can get it down to 20lbs? Hmm..... | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
patrick stein
a weekend warrior
from Hubbard, OH Date Reviewed: September 1, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have a 91 G.F. SuperCaliber thats been a great bike I'm on my second Roc-shock and have numerous miles, most of the Suntour has been replaced with shimano but the frame has been great, but I'm on this page researching a FS bike, hoping I can get a Bike with more comfort but don't want to sacrifice the great climbing of this bike. I haven't been on a FS bike nd will gladly read opinions. My friend are the same road and hard tail bikies as my self. Anyone interested in a great hardtail? | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Michael
a cross-country rider
from Whitewater, WI Date Reviewed: August 5, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I really liked it. Liked being the operative word. I sold it because I'm a Clydesdale at 6'1 230lbs and the regid frame sent all that pounding to my lower back. But after 1500 miles of pounding the bike still worked great. The crank broke in half on me within the first 50 miles but Fisher replaced it. Until I sold it it was fabulous bike. | Overall Rating: |
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Andrew
a cross-country rider
from Australia + UK Date Reviewed: June 15, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Are we all talking about the same bike? I have a early model SuperCalilber and it has a OLCV carbon fibre frame? Everyone else keeps mentioning Al. Five chillies for the OLCV frame SuperCaliber, light, stiff and blindingly fast (even has major pose value). My only desapointment are the shitty Q21r forks. I need to upgrade them, any suggetions? I was thinking Girvin x-cross link or AMPS | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
josh king
a cross-country rider
from chicago, illinois united states Date Reviewed: June 6, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I was very pleased with this product. I have ridden everything from klein to specialized and this is the best hardtail i've ridden. The joshua's are horrible bikes but this one's real nice. I really like it compared to the zaskar. It is a very well constructed bike. I especially like the way that it climbs. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Matt
a weekend warrior
from Tokyo, Japan Date Reviewed: May 19, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I purchased this bike a year ago and was very impressed with the deal I got. $1600 bucks is a small price to pay. I notice though that the handling is a little unpredictable at time. I am finding my true love in downhill which is very hard on such a delicate and light bike. I bent the rear of the frame slightly so that the tire actually rubs against the frame.oops I also broke the outer casting of the SXTi in half and the factory had no extra's so they sent me the TIFS outercast. My bike is really deteriorating after only a year but that is only because it is a light trailbike. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
cimeron
a weekend warrior
from San Francisco, CA Date Reviewed: March 2, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I love my Supercal. It has a lot of explosive power and has a smooth, clean ride. The frame stiffness is great, and the componentry is fantastic. It's one fantastic bike! I got mine at Lombardi's in the city at a super sweet deal, so be sure to check out their sales if you're in SF. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
martillo rapido
a racer
from Northern CA Date Reviewed: December 16, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I raced and rode hard on this bike all last season (97) and couldn't have been happier. The bike just wants to go. The Easton Aluminum frame is stiff and light, and very tough. Cool colors, too. The only downside is the cheesy derailluer dropout, which I replaced once and straightened too many times to count, but at least it was replaceable, and not a welded on part of the bike. Get this bike and pretend you're Paola's teammate. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
fernice
a racer
from yuma, arizona Date Reviewed: November 13, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
we'll this bike is awesome 97' supercaliber. It an awesome rythem jumper to come check out P.O.S.T. for whoever likes to go big in yuma, arizona. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dany Singer
a cross-country rider
from Sylvania,Ohio Date Reviewed: October 31, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I would like to learn more about the Kaitai bike made by Gary Fisher. I already know it has an aluminium frame, steardy foundation, and motorcycle like gear shifters. Please tell me more about the kaitai model and if I'm making a bad decision. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Parker
a cross-country rider
from Mtn. View California Date Reviewed: October 11, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I bought my first Supercal back in 94. It was my first bike, and I think a good choice for a beginner. It survived lots of hard spills and was a perfect learning machine. The only complaint was the design of the double butted seat tume. If you ride w/ a lot of seat post exposed, this torques the inner sleav, and will eventually break it loose resulting in a clicking sound (almost like a BB creak). The first frame it happen after a yr. the warranteed frame did it after 6 months, probably due to more aggressive riding as I improved. Another critisism is the HARSH ride the frame gives. Aluminum is not a forgiving material. You'll find this out on down hills as you skak and bounce across the bumbs instead of rolling and and flowing with them. Good climber due to stiffness, lousy on the DH's though I'm bying a nice top o the line steel frame (Independent Fabrication) now. I don't wanna start the great frame material debate alum vs. steel vs. Ti. Though personally I'd NEVER buy another Al. frame after riding a GOOD light steel frame. If it sounds like I'm slamming the Supercal, I'm not. Fisher quickly warranteed my forst broken frame, and I'm sure they would warrantee my currently broken frame.4 chilis. 1 off for the fact that the frame does break (no I'm no clydedale) and 1 for the harsh lack of feel the AL gives. 1 back on cuz this bike taught me the joys of Mtn biking. Great learner bike!
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Submitted by
Jack Ryan Kelly
a cross-country rider
from Fargo, ND USA Date Reviewed: October 10, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Who could go wrong with an aluminum frame with a lifetime warranty fully loaded with XT components. I firmly believe that there is not a better bike for the money out there. If you are a serious biker and don't want to spend tons of money on an awesome cross-country bike, buy the Supercaliber...you will not be disappointed! This bike kicks ass, and of course is a head turner...the chics dig it! Five flamin' chilies from this biker! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jesse J
a racer
from Mars Canada Date Reviewed: September 25, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
this is the best hardcore race machine out there is has the smartest spec for cost of anything around buy one now | Overall Rating: |
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Jack
a racer
from Montreal Canada Date Reviewed: August 5, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Hey if you are looking at that page your mind must be setup on real mt biking Here is a REAL mt bike to give satisfaction to your mind. Lightweight 23 pounds (custom) excellent component full xt,manitou sx ti,mavic 217 weel set and more... The only upgrade i did was to put some grip shift x ray (personal taste) i was also thinking about changing the seat when i first got the bike but after one ride i been able to remark how confi that wtb sst sadle was and how the ti rails were flexing.That bike is like a dog not only it is my best friend but everywhere i go people stop me to tell me how nice it look. Guess what my rating is ??? | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Pedal
a cross-country rider
from New Zealand Date Reviewed: April 11, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
To convince you to get a Supercal if you're looking for a 97 alu hardtail, I'll review my old mate...a 91(!) Supercal. If you want a sharp handling, powerful and durable alloy frame that'll last a few seasons this is the one. It has been such a good frame that it was worth the continual component upgrades I gave it over 5 seasons of racing - it was still fast and reliable up to last year when I retired it to road training duties. That was because A: I became a full suspension convert, and B: I was starting to fear a major frame failure because of what I've read about long term alloy fatigue.In 91 the bike was ahead of it's time...there have been many imitators since but from what I can make out the basic Supercal frame hasn't changed much and so I'd recommend it to anyone who's looking for a long term investment in performance that is worth upgrades in the future. | Overall Rating: |
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Brad Howtz
a racer
from west virginia Date Reviewed: April 9, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I thought the supercaliber is an awesome bike. I love the Judy XC suspension fork that came on it. This bike is light!!! I am telling you that you couldn't find a lighter bike for a lesser cost. I love it. | Overall Rating: |
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Mark
a weekend warrior
from Herndon, VA Date Reviewed: January 29, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Just bought the 1997 SUPERCALIBER about a month ago and it is kick ass! It is light as a feather and barrels up hills like a demon! All XT and a bit of titanium hardware help the bike stay light. XT V-brakes havn't given me any problems yet and the Answer Manitou SX Ti is great. This is a race ready bike right off the showroom floor. This bike gets five chillies from me! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Roger
a cross-country rider
from Miami, Fl Date Reviewed: January 28, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
SUPERCALAFRAGALISTIC !!!!!!!!!!!This a damn good bike, 21 pounds and xt everything. This bike is meant to be ridden hard and fast. Its a great bike for the stop and go trails of Florida, accelarates like a draggster and corners like its on rails. ILOVE THIS BIKE!!!! ROGER + SUPERCAL. FOREVER | Overall Rating: |
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Brian Pederson
a racer
from Bellingham, WA USA Date Reviewed: December 8, 1996 | | Bottom Line: |
I have been racing on my Supercaliber for over three years now, and I love it. I have ridden alot of bikes and none of them have been as comfortable or had the feel that my Fisher has. It is light weight and very responsive yet can still take a beating. I've been riding with a rigid fork lately and have had no problems riding any of the trails that my riding buddys think are so skecthy that you have a suspension fork to ride. The Fisher resonds so well that it is almost an extension of your body. Now that raved so much about my Supercaliber here are some things I didn't like. The biggest compliant I had was the Bontrager rims that were spec'd on my bike. They were very light weight but almost to light, I had to keep my tire pressure very high in order to avoid rim dings. This is not very particle in the rainy pacific northwest were we ride over alot of wet roots. Need less to say I was constantly trueing my wheels. I also had problems with my bottom bracket but it was recalled and my dealer replaced it free of charge. Basically I think the Gary Fisher Supercaliber is a great bike right off the showroom floor but is an awesome bike after a few componet changes. I will difinetly be buying another Gary Fisher most likly a Procaliber or a Joshua, but in the mean time I'm having fun on my Supercaliber. Happy trails!
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Submitted by
A. Shawn Tofte
a racer
from Columbus, Ohio, USA Date Reviewed: October 19, 1996 | | Bottom Line: |
1994 version - Great frame composition, good rigidity great controll, super for climbing.Component change recomendation : Chain suck protector, Tires, Cut handlebars,Components liked : Seat (TI), Onza Pedals, Control Tech Stem | Overall Rating: |
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Andy Schiesl
a cross-country rider
from Durango, CO Date Reviewed: October 5, 1996 | | Bottom Line: |
Best bike I have ever owned. Had to upgrade to the Judy SL though. Needed the extra travel and lighter weight to conquer the trails in Durango. The light weight and high-end components make this the best $1300 I have ever spent. Actually it was about $1900 after the shock upgrade. Anyways, you love this bike!!!! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike Marion
a cross-country rider
from Nashua, NH Date Reviewed: June 21, 1996 | | Bottom Line: |
The Gary Fisher SuperCaliber is a beautifully balanced trail companion. The frame flexes enough in the back to keep your teeth in place while the Manitou 5SX (yes with the Al steerer) takes care of things out front. This compliance keeps things planted while other, more stiff, aluminum mounts swing there arse-ends like an ape at banana feeding time time. Steering is almost telepathic, think and you are there, look at a line and you are through. Everything from the Ti bars, to the V-brakes, to full XT componens, to the sweet frame all seem to be perfectly blended as if they were all designed for each other. She climgs like a demon and descends like a banshee. She's also subtle - no loud paint, no radical frame design - just everything where it belongs, doing its job without complaint, going fast almost without effort. Just what I wanted for the fast New England Single-track and the occasional race.
Complaints: The matte paint is hard to keep clean - I have settled on Armor-all after a good washing to give it some sheen; The Manitou was recalled - oh well!; The top-mount cabling rattles in the rough stuff; I am not real fond of the narrow, super soft, foam grips. Other than that, I wouldn't change a thing.
Oh yeah - you can forget the $1300 price listed in this web page - retail is half again that much! | Overall Rating: |
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