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Submitted by
Bob
a Cross Country Rider
from UK
Date Reviewed: March 15, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | Behind Bars - Oxfordshire | | Strengths: | Excellent geometry and build. Classic looks | | Weaknesses: | Light front end when climbing. Needs to be ridden with respect (but is this a weekness) ? | | Bike Setup: | Mixture of XT / LX / Shimano / Sachs
P7 forks / WTB saddle | | Bottom Line: | Top bike. Rode everyday. Infact this bike was so good and looked in such top condition that it caught the eye of some THEIVING scum chav that jumped over a SIX foot fence and 4 other gardens to get it. It might be gone, but Im still about and that person should still keep an eye looking behind them................... | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Darryl
a Cross Country Rider
from Oxfordshire
Date Reviewed: January 6, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | the chilterns | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | Cycle Care High Wycombe | | Strengths: | Well where do i start. What a great bike, i have ridden this bike hard as hell for the last 11 years! It has been jumped, downhill-ed in competition here in the UK and travelled to Morzine in the French Alps twice. I used it in the first 4x event in the UK, and it has raced countless 24hour enduro's and X country races. It started off in 1996 as an Orange c16 RS with XT and Judy DH's. Lovely lively handling, the forgiving steel frame will get you out of most tricky situations With 80mm forks the front end gets a bit light for climbing real steep stuff but makes for a fantastic handling on downhills, and you can leap or manual over most obsticles I have just set it up with 63mm forks and it has not really affected the handling that much at all, steers a little better if anything. Lovely trustworthy bike, will always remain a favorite! | | Weaknesses: | None | | Similar Products Used: | Orange P7 xt, Vit T2 xtr | | Bike Setup: | Shimano XT- Rock Shox Judy XC 97 | | Bottom Line: | Fantastic Solid bike, go anywhere, do anything! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jonny
a Cross Country Rider
from Northants, England
Date Reviewed: April 27, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | Phil Corley Cycles | | Strengths: | For £660 a great alround bike which loves the challenge of anything you throw at it! Take it on the road or down a big forest track and you'll have a great ride. Anyone who wants a good bike which is capable of almost anything should think about getting one, shame they stopped selling them! It you can find a second-hand one that is in good condition i'd advise you to think about purchasing it. | | Weaknesses: | I'm still looking! | | Bike Setup: | I use the STX-RC group set which came with the bike. The only thing i have changed is the seat post and a few other bits like brake pads and chain. | | Bottom Line: | If you want a great bike which loves been riden, then get one. I was amased how great it was the first time i took it out and it still amases me today. The boys at orange really know how to make a great rider! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nick Reiter
a Weekend Warrior
from Lochcarron, Scotland
Date Reviewed: April 3, 2001 | | Favoriate Trail: | Strathpeffer | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | lakeland | | Strengths: | Superb, indestructible frame: I have had it for over 5 years; I use the original wheels (except for a replacement rear rim) for off road and a lightweight pair with thin tyres for on-road commuting. Every time I think I might be ready for a new bike I just give my C16R an extra good wash and ride it - and come back thinking it does everything I could want of it. Slap a rack on it and you can even tour on it. It is os versatile it would suit just about any rider. Good choice of sizes. | | Weaknesses: | The transfers peeled off within a couple of months - who cares! Some riders may want to experiment with different stems. The seat tube diameter means that the choice of seat posts may be limited, and I did have some initial trouble with my post slipping, which I solved with a shim. | | Similar Products Used: | various: diamond back, specialized, etc. : all hardtails. | | Bike Setup: | RC set up straight out the box. In five years, the only modifications I have made was the extra set of lightweight wheels for on-road use, replacement of an exploded rear rim on the original wheels, and the usual wear-and-tear replacements. I have toyed with fitting V-brakes, but haven't bothered so far. Tried to fit mudguards temporarily for touring, but not easy. | | Bottom Line: | Surely a classic! I may one day treat myself to a new bike, but I will NEVER sell my C16R : through all the fads and fancies of the past half-decade, it remains a bike that cries out to be ridden anywhere. Magic. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mark
a Weekend Warrior
from UK
Date Reviewed: October 20, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$1400.00 | | Purchased At: | Madgetts | | Strengths: | Quick, fast and strong | | Weaknesses: | Are there any? Oh, some of the stickers have come off! | | Similar Products Used: | Claud Butler Ali frame, too hard.
Marin Elridge grade. | | Bike Setup: | PACE RC 36s, XT V's and changers. Rest is stock LX. Can't see why peopl didn't like the grips, still got the originals. | | Bottom Line: | Great for XC, twisty trails and you can still chuck a rack on for multi-day stuff.
After an Ali rigid this bike was sheer bliss. I now have a Specialized FSR XC as well. But still prefer the Orange for a fast thrash on forest single track.
Shame they have retired it, at least the P7 is still about. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Robert Hansen
a Cross-Country Rider
from Peterborough, CAMBS
Date Reviewed: January 6, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: |
more than 3 years | | Strengths: |
Beast of a frame that handles anything you throw at it. Lively, skippy and comfy | | Bike Setup: |
I've got an STX-RC set up but with DX brakes with XT levers. The shifters are falling apart now but who cares? It's deserving of XT components now! | | Bottom Line: | An absolutely blinding bike recommended to XC demons and trail hackers alike. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jonathan
a Weekend Warrior
from Merseyside, England
Date Reviewed: October 6, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
more than 3 years | | Strengths: |
A truly excellent steel frame, which has survived 3 1/2 years under my not so light body. No real difference in ride between this and the P7. Massive amounts of mud clearance, stiff, and comfortable. Earlier Clockwork frames had a habit of rusting internally. I waxoyled mine, and it still survives today. Anyone who only rides aluminium frames shoud give their backsides a rest and try a steel frame. | | Weaknesses: |
The original brazed on seat binder lugs were not parallel, but a local frame builder took them off, and I fitted a later stainless steel clamp. Problem solved | | Bottom Line: | Replaced only by a marin Pine Mountain frame bought at a knock down price of £140. The Orange beats the Marin on mud clearnce, but the Marin is Prestige, and the difference tells | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Timbo
a weekend warrior
from NSW,Australia
Date Reviewed: March 9, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
Ah the Black flash...I had to sell my C16R to come to australia. I do miss it so. I'd recommend this bike to anyone, my bruv had a P7 and other than the flash nickel finish Iwouldnt rate it that much higher, apart from being a little stiffer in the BB area. I am about 17stone(105K0 and I never broke it. Reliable and tough as old boots. Pretty pliant ride ....sob,sob. Buy one. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Per Engström
a cross-country rider
from Stockholm, Sweden
Date Reviewed: September 19, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Wow, what a bike. I've had my Orange for 3 years now, and it has been 3 great years of riding without any trouble, other than the usual changings of chain, replacing tires and things like that. The lightness of the frame coupled with the quality of the handmade wheels give it kickass performance on the trails. Of my 5 bikes in total, this Orange rules. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
David Franklin
a weekend warrior
from Rochester, England
Date Reviewed: November 21, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I've had this bike about 2 years. I replaced the grips the day I bought it but most of the STX-RC groupset is still intact. I'm in the middle of upgrading with some '98 Pace forks and XT V brakes and shifters.I have to say this an excellent bike. Its very light, the handling is precise, ride is supple, and the frame has some nice design touches: cable routing, mud clearance, etc. Actually, mud-clearance is so good that you manage to pick up about 47,000 kilos of mud on the side of your tyres!I sometimes wonder whether I should have spent the extra 100 quid and got a P7 instead but I've had no reason to doubt the C16Rs strength. Even the hand-built wheels have managed to survive 2 years of pretty heavy abuse without so much as a loose spoke.They've changed back to the original name (Clockwork Orange, get it?) for '98 but I'm not sure if they've change the frame at all. Overall this bike is a pleasure to ride - up hill and down. I can't quite understand why nobody outside of the UK has heard of Orange? | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
You aint seen me, right!
a cross-country rider
from UK
Date Reviewed: November 12, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Actually reviewing Orange X4 cos review thingy isn't working.
Mmmmmmm, Nice! Slime green fulls with Pace forks sir, oooh suits you sir!
Plusher than a very plush plush thing-the ride is slippery schmoooove.I reckon this is a dashed fine handling bike. I reccommend any of the 3 models to anyone looking for a fully sussed bike. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave Bowes
a cross-country rider
from Scotland(from Yorkshire)
Date Reviewed: November 6, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
This is a sound bike, well ballanced and light. I agree the grips were awful. I had to replace mine. I wore out the alvio gears in about six months. As for the seat I never sit down and ride long enough to notice. But it isnt a great seat by any means. The brakes are awful and changing to vees from alvio is expensive. Pity because the alvio shifter design is physicaly just right for me.
The gears were a bit low for downhill and flat work. I felt the road cog could have had a few more teeth.
I too am looking for full suspension now to increase my fun factor.
Overall an excelent frame. My advice would be buy the highest specified version you can aford, because replacing worn cheap spec parts is an expensive way to build good spec bike.
Five Star. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Sadam Husein
a weekend warrior
from
Date Reviewed: September 27, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
This baby's great in the dunes!.Who needs cous-cous when you can have aC-16R,who wants total world domination when you've got this baby!?.
This bike leaves my scud missiles for dust1.Buy it now!. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jean-Pierre
a weekend warrior
from Leeds, UK
Date Reviewed: September 11, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I've had this bike for 2 years now and have ridden it on all kinds
of terrain in all weathers, raced it, crashed it, climbed, descended,
dropped-in, jumped and anything else you can do with a bike.It's been upgraded and has XT spds, XTR V-brakes, Pace suspension forks,
Bontrager kevlar Jones tyres.My honest opinions are that the bike is great if you are after that
compliant light steel frame type ride. It wouldn't be an exaggeration
to say that this bike is a pleasure to ride. Compared to more recent
aluminium frames it does not beg to be ridden agressively or jumped
but it can hold its own, and its compliance and neutral handling make
it very stable at HIGH speeds.Overall i would say it has performed without so much as a whimper but
you can get a lot more for your money, especially 2 years on from
when i purchased mine. my riding style had now outgrown it so i've
been looking at the bike impartially. It climbs very well due to its
light weight and orthodox geometry, and descends pretty well too with
the compliance i mentioned cushioning the hits a bit.personally i'm moving to full suspension to up my speed on the rough stuff.4 chilis ... keep on riding! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ewan Campbell
a downhiller
from Glasgow, UK
Date Reviewed: August 25, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I have had my Orange C16r for 5 months now & it is just so good, especially for
a meer £660 for a frame with geometry the same as £1000 bikes & weighing a paltry
4.25lbs for the frame & just over 23lbs for the whole thing. It climes like a goat &
nails the downhills with the least of no effort whatsoever. It has taken all the beating I
can give it with the greatest of ease. I have been thumping this bike thoroughly almost
every day for the last 5 months & has hardly a scratch to show for it. The group set
works without a bother & once you've added your own special touch to this bike, its
simply fantastic. All you really need to upgrade would be the grips since they rip rather
easily (came off after one week!) some nice LX spuds for the extra speed &
accelaration are a nice replacement for the rather lame one sided rather useless toe
clip jobs & if you've got a sensitive ass (unusual in a MTBer in know) you really will
have to get something a little more comfortable, after a 40 mile day it can really beging
to give u ass ache. But apart from a few minor things this bike kicks ass.I fully recommend this frame to anyone & everyone. It rocks!
5 fully steaming red hot chillis please, thank you very much! | | Overall Rating: |
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