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Date: March 22, 2006
Aaron from Florida writes:
Both is the best combo. Barmounted if I had to choose one.
WINNER: Tie
Need both for max visibility
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helmet can see better on technical trail and you can see the bike if you have to make an on ride adjustment to bike if you have light on handle bar you cannot, but its good to have both if you can. i want to say helmet but i say tie instead
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helmet mount...without a doubt, how can you see where you are going on a switchback trail with bar mounts or coming to a hill going either up or down.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
I prefer the sun!
WINNER: Tie
I think you should have at least 4 bar mounted lights on at one time. Plus an aditional 2 on your seat post pointing to the rear in order to give you the tactical advantage of blinding any other racer that tries to pass you. In addition I strongly believe in at least 4 helmet lights (one pointing in every direction) with a minimum of 3400 lumens, or 9.98 million candlepower per light. This intensity will not only allow you to see better, but it is so bright that it will start forest fires when any sort of vegitation passes within 8 feet of your cranium.
WINNER: Tie
Bar mounted are better. Helmet mounted make you feel top heavy. Helmet mounted are pointed easier wherever you want to go thoug.
WINNER: Tie
Gotta see where I want to go, who cares where I am now.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
i laugh at the posts from "downhiller from florida" hahahaha there ain't nuthin resembling hills over there. what a joke....barmounted please. the helmet mount can become too distracting.
WINNER: Barmounted
bar mount
WINNER: Barmounted
Look were you want to go, not were you do not.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
BOTH!
The helmet mount gives you the possibility to look ahead and do som planning on technical rides, but it doesnt give you a clear picture of the trail because of the angel of the light. The Helmet mount follows your head movement but doesnt cast the needed shadows wich will give an understanding of potholes, roots and bigger stones.
The ideal would be a bar mount wich followed your eyes.
WINNER: Tie
helmet!! i rode a bar mounted light for a year. they actually work pretty good except for technical stuff. helmet lights let you point the light where you need it!!. on the road or double track, bar mounts are good, or even better use both on the road
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Helmet, 10 - 15 watt.
brighter ruins the night effect.
Supplement with a bar light if you like.
Biggest problem is the wire to the helmet light.
mount the battery on the helmet, marketer dudes.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
I ran bar mounts for years and only recently started running a helmet mount. I have to say for pure entertainment, bar mount is the way to go. It casts a better shadow than the helmet mount, and makes the ride more challenging. I have ridden with 15W helmet lights and it almost makes it too easy. What's the point of being able to see 50 ft up the trail? You might as well ride in the daytime. :) 10W [or less] barmount is the way to go.
WINNER: Barmounted
When the air is dusty (24 hour races), I lose depth perception and wreck with a helmet only light.
WINNER: Barmounted
you need both to give you the safest ride mount one on your helmet and set it to a dim setting, then put one on your bars and set it to a bright setting. the bright bar alone will create a 2dimensional shadow so you will not know where the ground is or what kind of terrain is in the shadow. combine it with the dim helmet mounted light and you get a 3dimensional shadow so you can see the ground and see the shadow. it is the best way to simulate daylight.
WINNER: Tie
If your goal is to go fast in the dark, a really bright helmet mount with a kick ass battery or two for long burn.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Helmet-mounted is ten times better because you can look where you're going before you go there.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
bar mounted
WINNER: Barmounted
Helmet mounted is better for singletrack because you can point the light around corners. Although I think both would be best. But I can't afford both, and I've had no complaints with just my helmet mounted light.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
i have always had bar mounted, till i tried a friends helmet mount. i think for overall performance a helmet mount is better, but, low hangin branches are a problem, and when you bail, it's alot easier finding your bike with a light mounted to it, if it stays on. so i run both, arc lion on the head, niterider led on the bar.
WINNER: Tie
Come on people, think.... stick to either one of them, and black out in the dark, you lose. Mount both and you'll be better than sorry
WINNER: Tie
Nice to have the correct light for your needs.
Bar mounted lights used in conjunction with a helment light is the optimal setup. The bar mounted lights cast some shadows, the helmet mounted light goes where the eye go.
If I could only choose one, I'd choose bar mounted.
WINNER: Barmounted
I have a bar mounted turbocat qr 25. It is all you need turns the night into day, I run the single beam most of the time and the highbeam when I am running max speed on a single track. The turbo cat is the finest lighting system out there today. totaly unbelieveable performance.
WINNER: Barmounted
i dont ride at night too often, but when i do i prefer the fixed helmet. reason, the light is going to shine in the direction of where you look, where as the bar mounted will be pointing in the direction of the front tire, most people are looking further ahead and not in the direction of the handle bar position
WINNER: Helmetmounted
you can't beat the versatility of helmet-mounted... but I have a light on both my helmet and my bar, so what can I say? Tie.
WINNER: Tie
your head sees the trail before the front of your bike
WINNER: Helmetmounted
I recently raced the Sydney 24 hour and it was my first time riding and racing at night. I was not a light owner so I was supplied with a relatively high powered bar light by my team. Beacause I was super nervous I also mounted a small, cheap but bright light to my bar and aimed about 2 feet in front of my front wheel. Overall, the spot aimed maybe 8-10 feet off and the small light aimed in front of my front wheel it was AWESOME! Now I will admit I am not a seasoned night rider, but I clocked my fastest lap at night! Try it, you'll like it! I have heard that both are excellent together though. . . . .
WINNER: Tie
I think it is a tie. But, don't do what I did. I bought the nite rider HID twice. One for the bar. That was great. Bright as you can imagine. Hikers thought I was a stealth motorcycle because they saw a bright light, but no noise. But, after a few rides, I really wanted to see into a turn before I started the turn, not after. So, I forked over more cash and bouth the HID for the helmet. Overkill. I should have bought a smaller, less powerful light for the helmet. With both on, there is ony marginal improvement in overall light, so if you have the HID bar mount, an HID helmet mount isn't necessary. That, and it makes your helmet toss around too much, no matter how tight your straps are. So, long story short, I'd recommend going with a high powered bar light, and a lower powered helmet light.
WINNER: Tie
they make lights now???? geeeez, and all this time i've been niteriding with a little maglite in my teeth...
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If you can't have both, go helmet. Lets you look around and see you computer. Also works if you have to fix a flat or something.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
helmet mounts make you look like a train!
WINNER: Barmounted
a spot light on your helmet and a wide beam on the handlebars works the best for me.
WINNER: Tie
I use both, a 20W on my helmet and a 5W on my bars; however, i only turn my helmet mounted light on for technical or fast sections or if i need to look around, conserving my 20W batteries. i use a 20W on my helmet so that when it's on i can see really well when needed. i have a 5W on my bars for cruising as i don't need to see around corners or into technical sections and it also rests your eyes on long rides.
WINNER: Tie
I have one thing to say, your bike isn't always where you're looking.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
TIE!! ITS WHAT U PREFER
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I like having both.
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I had a cheap barmounted light(~4-5 watts), which was fine for on the road, but not nearly enough on trail. So I bought a nice helmetmounted light (10 watts), and now I have plenty on trail with both of them on. So I say it is tie: with the barmount pointed in front of you, you can always see straight ahead, and with the helmetmounted light, you can see where you are looking. If I could only have one or the other, I would prefer to have a decent barmounted light(20-30 watts) rather than the cheapo thing I have.
WINNER: Tie
I say both. If only bar - If you are turning you can't see directly in front of you, if you look off into the woods can't see. If only helmet - have light where you are looking, but not as much light in front of your wheel. If I had to choose only one I would go for helmet because then you have light where YOU are looking. If you are not looking ahead of your bike, then light's not needed in front as much. First time out I only had a light on the bar and it was tough to see what was coming up a distance off. It was dark enough to not see the hills coming and I ended up hiking too much. Once I had both it was drastically improved.
WINNER: Tie
helmet mounted lights are heavy . gives u headaches
WINNER: Barmounted
Hi all,
The light should point in the direction of the bike. So bar mounted is best for a one light application. Helmet lights are good for looking around. If you duck your head with a helmet light on you cannot see the terrain ahead, also you tend to look further ahead thanyou should and miss the roots and stumps in front of you.
WINNER: Barmounted
ideally it should be on the head. that way uv got light everywhere u look
WINNER: Helmetmounted
ideally it should be on the head. that way uv got light everywhere u look
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If forced to choose only one system, I cast my vote for a helmet mounted light. I am using a Night Rider HID light, and this is by far the best light source I have ever seen. With this much bright white, usable light pointing where you look, you can't go wrong (you can go broke trying to afford the light system, though!). The only drawback it how a helmet light casts shadows... the light is coming from a tall source, and does not always cast a deep enough shadow for good depth perception. I have found the addition of a bar light (i use my older, non-HID light system for this) does a great job of filling in light and casting more accurate shadows. The combination is unbeatable for me. Also, I can turn off the bar light when I am in less technical terrain to save batteries. It is not recommended to turn an HID system on and off frequently, and the battery life is so good that you don't need to worry too much.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
If forced to choose only one system, I cast my vote for a helmet mounted light. I am using a Night Rider HID light, and this is by far the best light source I have ever seen. With this much bright white, usable light pointing where you look, you can't go wrong (you can go broke trying to afford the light system, though!). The only drawback it how a helmet light casts shadows... the light is coming from a tall source, and does not always cast a deep enough shadow for good depth perception. I have found the addition of a bar light (i use my older, non-HID light system for this) does a great job of filling in light and casting more accurate shadows. The combination is unbeatable for me. Also, I can turn off the bar light when I am in less technical terrain to save batteries. It is not recommended to turn an HID system on and off frequently, and the battery life is so good that you don't need to worry too much.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Go with a High Intensity Discharge light on your helmet and this argument is moot. With all that light that you can point where you need it AND have a big enough cone to see a bit of what is in front of you!
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Bar mounted if only one light....
If your turning sharp enough to need to look around, then your going slow enough to not need to see too far ahead.
WINNER: Barmounted
I agree with the bothers. You always want to have light pointed where you are looking (helmet-mount) and the bar-mount keeps a light on the trail or close to it. Plus with helmet-mount you can get off the bike at night to take a piss and easily see where is because of the bar-mount light. Go for both if you have the extra cash.
WINNER: Tie
Prefer both but if limited to 1 then a helmet mount works best on the trails I ride because sometimes the bars aren't pointed towards where you're going to be in a couple of seconds. I currently use a 6 volt/10 watt helmet mount and fill in the trail directly in front of the bike with a couple of LED bar mounts (3 LED's in each) aimed about 10 feet in front of the bike.
When there's enough light from nearby civilization being reflected off the clouds and you stand around in the dark long enough to get your night vision then the trail will begin to stand out - a narrow ribbon that disappears off into the surrounding darkness . You can then ride at your normal daytime speed but without lights at all. But you better REALLY know the trail and be willing to stop when it goes into dense trees and can't be seen (you don't want to turn on your light because it ruins your night vision). The problem here is that you lose the ability to tell cow shit from pine cones - but that's mountain biking.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Both are great to have, but if I had to choose one only I'd go with helmet mount. It's good to have the ability to have light going where you're looking regardless of where you're headed sometimes. Bar mounts alone do the trick nicely too, go with whatever you're more comfortable.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Both are great to have, but if I had to choose one only I'd go with helmet mount. It's good to have the ability to have light going where you're looking regardless of where you're headed sometimes. Bar mounts alone do the trick nicely too, go with whatever you're more comfortable.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
both is ideal
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Both are best for obvious reasons. If you have to choose one, go with helemet mount since it's easier to articulate.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Both, the more light the better
WINNER: Tie
Electric lights!? That is some kind of newfangled invention! Well let me tell you how we did it in the old days: We didn't have batteries, or flash lights or other nonsense like that. What me and my buddies did was take a couple of hundred gallons of good whale oil (hard to come by these days). We then made a couple of hundred torches. We scouted the trails by day, and placed torches in the appropriate locations.
Then just before dark we would send a loser out to light them. Them torches stayed lit for hours. We would ride, and go home.
Sure sometimes we would burn a nice chunk of the forest down. But hey you gotta do what you gotta do to ride.
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I think bar mounted gives a much better perspective on the trail in front of you. Additionally helmet mounted puts a bright spot in front of you in fog (which we get a lot of) or dust. That being said, I always go with both, and use the helmet mount for swithcbacks, backup/failures, etc. However, if I had only one, it would be barmounted.
WINNER: Barmounted
Both
WINNER: Tie
A real night rider wears a helmet! I rest my case.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Helmet mounted is the way to go so you can see that bear that is waiting for you in the bushes on the side of the trail. You can see so much more wild life if your light is not restricted to your bike.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
yah it does get dark but lights suck ne ways but this is a tough decision one one hand a helmet lit light goes where ur seeing and sometimes thats a bad thing if ur not lookin where u go but bar lights can be a pain and restrick movement but i usually dont wear a helmet so bar
WINNER: Barmounted
I use both! At least you have lite even if you go down to your bike isn't it?
WINNER: Tie
bar mounted is better because i dont wear a helmet
WINNER: Barmounted
Helmet mounted feels wierd is too F@#!ing annoying
WINNER: Barmounted
NiteRider Storm HID Helmet mount much better this way you can direct where you want it. Sometimes you need the light off to the side or you need to see up the trial. When night riding you may need to get off the bike for repairs or to help a buddy. Mount helmet mount very handy. Your body acts as a natural shock absorber so the light tends to be more stable and less prone to vibration.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Why not both!?!
WINNER: Tie
bar mounted needs no helmet and always face forward
WINNER: Barmounted
I say dose yourself in gasoline and torch the whole friggin trail. Of course both if you've ever done a 24 hr race.... Nah, really, just do more shrooms and you'll see what you need to see. Unless it sees you first.
WINNER: Tie
i tried both and helmet mounted was better for the technical stuff i ride.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
at high speed you can search into corners earlier with helmet mount
WINNER: Helmetmounted
If you want to ride the trails at night, you need BOTH. If you must go out with only one, go with bar mounted.
WINNER: Barmounted
jet-lite 15W
WINNER: Barmounted
Ideally, get both, but I've ridden with barmount only, helmet mount only and bars win.
The problems with helmet mount only have to do with not being able to see the edges of ruts and other obsticals. A bright headlamp completely washes out any shadows you need to see what's coming up. Plus, when the riding gets dry, dust kicked up on the trail is like riding with your highbeams in the fog. And if it get's foggy in the winter you can really feel that effect.
Get both.
WINNER: Barmounted
I had on 2 helmet mounts when some DUI came racing around a curve behind me. I turned toward him so he would see me. He thought a car was pulling out in front of him, locked up the brakes and flipped his plumbibg van and took out a row of parked cars (he was going about 60 around acurve at night in a residential area), of course I had to look back to watch where I was going while listening to all hell breaking loose behind me!Try that with bar mounts! I love my Vistalight nightsticks mounted either way or even one each. of course the nost popular option is always goimg to be no lights at all.
WINNER: Tie
DONT BE SILLY NOW CHILDREN. its quite clearly a tie. to ride well you need them both.
you cant ride that well with just bar mounted, corners etc can be nasty.
also you cant ride well with just helmet mounted either!
get both!
i advise VISTA NIGHTSTICKS - expensive but you get what you pay for
WINNER: Tie
Helmet Mounted allows you to see where you are going, and not just where you are.
If you do any night trail riding you will become clear of this immediately, if the rules of the race don't tell you this already.
Plus when you crash, its less likely to fly off compared to detacable bar mounted (speaking from experience again)
If you are ridding in cities, or only doing afternoon - evening trails. then get bar mounted or none at all.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
UUUHHHMMMMM.... Barmounted, coz I dunt where a helmet... I guess a combination of both would be ideal....
WINNER: Tie
it choose it because if the lights are put on the helmet if you turn your head to different place the light will not focus on the road instead where you look at and if it is a barmounted lights your sure that the light focuses on the road. and it has a stead or right angle where you like the lights to focus on without change direction or angle.
WINNER: Barmounted
I like my 1,000,000 candel power lite, it can be hard to manage at times on the tight turns but you learn to ride one handed. It also makes seeing the GAY Lycra wears in the bushes with their tools out working on each others bottom bracket.
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You know that both helmet mount and bar mount is the sure way to go it focuses a steady beam of light on the trail including a beam of ligh to where ever a person turns there head now that just will not be beat
WINNER: Tie
I need the light where my eyes are not where my handlebars are pointed. It is nice to see the fox off the side of the trail at dusk without having your bike pointed at it.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
I love the Jackass from Orlando who is a downhiller. Let me guess... you and your kewl bar mounted lights, light up the DH sections of the central Florida landfills? Sweet! Logic dictates that we go where our eyes go...hence helmet mounted lights (or both)
WINNER: Helmetmounted
i drive at night with a flashlight on my head too. Wait, thats silly.
WINNER: Barmounted
I like to see round corners so I choose helmet mounted. also easier for homade lights.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
You need both.
WINNER: Tie
cant go past a mix of both. My single petzl headlamp lets me look round corners a bit easier, on the bars ive got a couple of vistalite 15w to turn light to day. with both of these i never have a problem. i like my nite brite. that guy who posted before this one must be a closet fudge-packer himself
WINNER: Tie
cant go past a mix of both. My single petzl headlamp lets me look round corners a bit easier, on the bars ive got a couple of vistalite 15w to turn light to day. with both of these i never have a problem. i like my nite brite.
WINNER: Tie
Gay people put gay lights on there gay helmet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WINNER: Barmounted
you need both try to ride with just a head mount lite in bad weather!
it SUCKS, it's like high beams in the fog! need helmet lite to look
behind you to check for wild dogs, and bears.
BAR - High beam
HELMET - Low beam
WINNER: Tie
Helmet mounts suck for depth perception and group rides... dust will blind you. Bar mounts give the shadows needed for depth and are less affected by dust, but they're tough for tight single track,
For your first light, go bar mount. Then get a helmet mount when you get used to night riding
WINNER: Tie
both together
WINNER: Tie
you can compare . helmet is only reasonable choice for singletrack
WINNER: Helmetmounted
if u picked bar mounted, u obviously haven't ridden at night
WINNER: Helmetmounted
both, high wattage bulb on bars to light up the trail and a light on helmet so you can watch the trail ahead of you when coming to turns
WINNER: Tie
Helmet mounted is far better for riding single track. Gives you more control over light direction.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Helmetmounted you can aim were u want
WINNER: Helmetmounted
We had 3 teams of 5 riders at the 2002 24-hours of Adrenalin, Laguna Seca, Monterey, CA. After the night had gone and the night lap stories started it became apparent that all those who had trouble or complained in general were those with Helmet lights. Primary complaint was could not see through the dust. As for bar mounted there were no complaints at all that had to do with lights.
WINNER: Barmounted
I have had the Niterider Storm HID Helmet mount for over a year now. I usually don't even bother to put my bar mounted Classic Plus on my bike anymore since the Storm is so amazing
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Bar Mounted. It's just like driving a car. keep the lights were they should be, in front of you.
WINNER: Barmounted
I have both as you need the one on your helmet to find your bike when you come off
WINNER: Tie
helment light is my favort ,becouse of its ability to see every thing you look at , even your bike when you have problems.Handlebar mount takes away the bottle cage and showes shadows unlike the helment mount plus a little heaver.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Check out the new Specialized XENON lights. They are great and the 5.0 only cost me $49-. I prefer bar mount when I am riding familiar terrain because I am not expecting surprises. When riding in an unfamiliar area or in a busy area, I take a helmet light in addition. The XENON is great - especially for MTB; the whole trail becomes like your fluorescent-lighted garage.
WINNER: Tie
As long as the light is powerful I recomend bar mounted, otherwise please use helmet mounted, remenber its youre ass!!
WINNER: Tie
Helmet mounted is decievingly lighter, brighter, and more controllable
on bar mounted if ya wanna look in a direction to have to turn that way...can you say collision?
and helmets are cheaper more profecient and easier to maintain.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
i use both, lets me stay in the woods even longer by alternating.... helmet mount is nice cause you can direct the light (duh)... both together you can fry frogs
WINNER: Tie
Look were you want the light...simple.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Love my Cateye stadium 3. Wish the sucker was lid mounted. Would be nice on hairpin turns at midnight.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Love my Cateye stadium 3. Wish the sucker was lid mounted. Would be nice on hairpin turns at midnight.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
I ride both off road twisty singletrack and some road bike at night. If you can have only one light go with a helmet mount with a MIMH battery. The NIMH battery is very light and will fit easily in your fanny pack or back pack. I use a lights in motion HID cabeza and it provides plenty of light. When using it on the road I need to be careful not to look at oncoming cars as it impairs the vision of the motorist.
I also have a three other handle bar mount systems that I purchased before going to the helmet mount. On extremely dark nights, cloud cover or no moon, I use a combination of the helmet mount and the bar mount. When road biking the handle bar mount is sufficient and I typically use this rather than the helmet mount on these occasions.
I also use both the helmet and handle bar mounts on long rides, 4 hours or greater. Both the helmet mount and the handle bar mount have a 3.5 hour burn time. When the sun sets I use the handle bar mount for the first hour. Then I switch over to the headlight an dturn of the handle bar mount. This gives me 4 hours of riding and I still have a couple of hours of reserve lighting on the handle bar.
I also carry a back up light in my fanny pack, it is a AA krypton bulk hat/head mount from walmarts. One time I had my light go out about 6 miles from the trail head ( I did not fully charge the battery because I thought I would only ride 10 miles that night versus the 18 actual). Riding back with out a light was a bit tricky with lots of brusing up against trees and a couple of spills. Since then I carry the back up light.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
If i had to choose,i'd go with the 48 LED helmet light.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Helmit light better for lighting up area you actually view for straight ahead AND where your going to turn too.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Both have good and bad points my advice get a Cateye Stadium 3 (barmounted) It has an amazing light spread and is soooooooooo powerfull (and lasts for 3 hours @ 84 watts!!!) On my last night ride 3 other lights failed and I just rode behind them and the Cateye provided more than enough light for all 4 of us try that with your helmet light!!!
WINNER: Barmounted
both
WINNER: Tie
I couldn't see laying out large sums of cash that ran the risk of being destroyed during a night crash, so I did some research and built a system for less than $50. I've got a handlebar mount 20 watt with an RCA jack type quick disconnect in case of rider/bike seperation and a sawed-off Mag light mounted to my helmet with another 20 watt'er installed. They're both powered by a 12 volt 7.2 Ahr sealed gel cell that if I'm running only one light, can get 3 hours of ride time out of easily. Yeah, it weighs 5.75 lbs but it tucks into my hydrapack and what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right?
I can ride with either light running or both. Running just the handlebar light is a pain when you need to glance around that switchback and you can't turn your handlebars without risking a crash. (Duh) A helmet mounted light is the perfect solution for this. A helmet light also allows you to illuminate areas like landing zones when your bars are pointed into the sky and you need to see where you're gonna splatter.
Running just the helmet light can be a pain if you're road riding and need to check for traffic at intersections. Flashing a 20 watt halogen spotlight beam at oncoming cars can make folks irate. If I had to pick one or the other I'd take my helmet light over the bar mount. It has proven to be the most convienient of the two.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
helmet mounted are way better than handlebar cuz where you look is where you put the light like when you need to light a technical section or you need to look at ur derailers or shifters helmet mounted are just plain better
WINNER: Helmetmounted
I have both, but if I could only have one, I'd go with the handlebar mount. The helmet, by itself limits contrast too much, which is dangerous
WINNER: Barmounted
I do a lot of night riding and I have tried many different lights and set-ups. If you run only a head mounted light you don't see any shadows which is dangerous. If the light is above your eye line you the shadow from the rock etc is out of your vision line and the depth of field becomes dangerous. I use the Cateye Stadium Lights for my 24hour races and I don't need to put on a helmet light. That system is so bright that it isn't needed. YOu can see the switch back and the trail going the oppisite direction before you get to it, like in daylight. People don't usually realize where that $500 is going until they see it and then they wish the spent that little extra for it. I have used nightrider and light & motion and with those lights you need a helmet light (which is heavy on the neck) to go fast. I can go as fast at night as I can during the day. Basically if you buy a nice enough light (like the Cateye Stadium 3) you will not need another light, but it is dangerous to ride off road (unless fire roads or something smooth like that) with only a helmet mount. For road and etc, it doens't matter, you can just use the moon, which is fun and I recommend it if you know a trail that isn't rocky and/or has lots of waterbars.
WINNER: Barmounted
Helmet is way better. I raced 24 Hours of Boyne and it was hell with a bar mount. Helmet worked way better becaue you can see ahead of where you're going. I'd take helmet any day.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
reality is - if you ride hard and fast at night on a combination of twisty technical single track and fast track - YOU NEED BOTH. If i had to have just one - at least a 20 watt medium spread handlebar mounted light.
WINNER: Barmounted
Both would be best.
Otherwise bar mounted.
Name one enduro motocrosser rider or manufactuer that has a helmet light??? Motos go way faster than bikes.
WINNER: Barmounted
My headlamp lights up the area I look at, and a mounted, cheap double-c battery light illuminates an area out front. The headlamp saved me some trouble when I nearly rode up the back of a Pennsylvania black bear waddling down the trail ahead of me (coming out of my favorite trout stream). I looked out ahead just in time to spot the bear around 75' ahead....
WINNER: Helmetmounted
if you can afford it, both is best. i vote for helmet mounted. less mess and if you wan't look around, you don't have to turn your handlebars to see. also, less vibration. and i can usually outrun the boogieman so i don't worry about him.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Barmounted is the best, I have no time for winers who want to see if the boogie man is coming from behind with there coal miners riding lite! BY THE WAY WOODY DOWN BELOW IS A MENTAL CASE, HEY WOODY IF I SEE YOU WALKING AROUNG "NU YAWK" I'LL KICK YOUR LAZY A$$!!!!!!!!
WINNER: Barmounted
Each has its strengths and weaknesses. Personally I don't see one being better than the other, its mostly how you ride and what you are riding. I prefer riding with both, then I get the best of both worlds, yeah its more weight, but I know I am not missing anything around the corner and I can tell what the ground is doing beneath me.
WINNER: Tie
has to be the bar mounted
WINNER: Barmounted
can you beat me
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More precise ability to direct the light where I want to see. It's good to have the barmounted light, too, for peripheral vision.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
For people like Woody from New York (I dont care how bad your grammer is, it isnt spelled Nu Yawk), he is right, he should leave his bike in the garage. But for those of us that a light is essential, like in a 24 hour race, helmet mounted is much better. With bar mounted lights, many times you have to lug around a big battery pack that fits into your water bottle holder. Not only does this take up important water space, it is a lot heavier then a small halogen head lamp. helmet mounted is the definite way to go.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
For people like Woody from New York (I dont care how bad your grammer is, it isnt spelled Nu Yawk), he is right, he should leave his bike in the garage. But for those of us that a light is essential, like in a 24 hour race, helmet mounted is much better. With bar mounted lights, many times you have to lug around a big battery pack that fits into your water bottle holder. Not only does this take up important water space, it is a lot heavier then a small halogen head lamp. helmet mounted is the definite way to go.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
I like barmounted because you dont get blinded everytime you say someones name.
(And Woody, youve never been night riding?! ITS AMAZING!)
WINNER: Tie
I like barmounted because you dont get blinded everytime you say someones name.
(And Woody, youve never been night riding?! ITS AMAZING!)
WINNER: Tie
Bars for primary lights - they don't make the ground appear flat. Helmet for seeing round corners
WINNER: Tie
U GOT 1 CHOICE?????????
U CHOOSE NITERIDER-STORM-HELMET MOUNT..................
U GOT 2 CHOICES??????????????????
U CHOOSE NITERIDER-STORM-HELMET MOUNT AND NITERIDER HID BAR MOUNT....
CASE CLOSED................................
DA BOBO..............................
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Helmet mount is the only way to go as a primary light. Bar mounted lights only let you look where the bike is pointing, not where you want to look so you can't see your line on downhill sections. Scary !! Bar mounted is great as a secondary light.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
That guy who says we are insane and not in our right minds to ride at night can lick my smelly nut sack. There is nothing like roasting up a fatty and hitting the trail in the cool night air. You don't need to get crazy or anything... just ride, man!!! I like to see where I'm looking... helmet baby!
WINNER: Helmetmounted
riding at night on single track is stupid. Riding downhill at night is stupid. Riding on the road at night is stupid. Putting a light on your bike so you can rip it off is stupid.
WINNER: Tie
Helmet mounted is better. Where you look it shines.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
One of the reasons to use a barmouned instead of helmet is a yell and laughter like: "Hey coalminer!!.."
and another is weigt on a head is not comfortable
WINNER: Barmounted
helmet is better cuz whereever you look there is light but barmounted is good so u dont have to worry about it as much. overall i would choose bar because if u spill then then u dont wreck your helmetmounted and u dont have to worry about it, but thats what i would choose
WINNER: Barmounted
you for got the $150 shoes
WINNER: Tie
Anyone care to vote on mounting a bar in Woody from Nu Yawk's ass?
WINNER: Barmounted
Are you people insane!? Who in their right mind would consider riding any kind of bike on any trail at NIGHT!?
This whole lighting system thing is just a gimic cooked up by desperate marketing guys who absolutely MUST SELL STUFF. Any stuff! These are the guys who are probably considering marketing condoms to nuns, all they need is just the right "hook" line.
Look, I live in Nu Yawk, and the streets are pretty well lit, even in the suburbs. But riding in the effin woods with what amounts to an overpowered flash light is stupid beyond all reason. Cross county motocyclists, who have REAL headlights don't do it. Yet some shmuck who has more money than sense will buy some THREE HUNDRED dollar flashlights, strap them to their TWO HUNDRED dollar helmet, get on his THREE THOUSAND dollar bike, only to wind up impaled on tree branch somewhere, only to be buried in a TEN dollar pine box, for which his grieving family will be charged EIGHT THOUSAND dollars.
Well I have no sympathy for that dork. He got what he deserved.
The night should be for resting, sleeping, screwing...whatever! leave the effin bike in the effin garage.
This whole thing is simply perpetuated by bike magazines that do the reviews, and shout which "lighting system" has the four hour run time and weighs four ounces. Like who gives a crap? You want lighting, strap a car battery to the back of your bike and put a car headlight in the front. Then you will have three hours to get your stupid ass killed in the effin woods. Cars, for the most part, have excellent lighting systems, and yet there are accidents at night all the time despite that. If you go riding into the effin woods with an effin flash light, I hope you wind up as bear shit.
Don't say I didn't tell you so.
WINNER: Tie
i think head mounted would be better becuase you are always looking where you want to go next so you want to have a light up there. i suppose it really doesnt matter, i wouldnt be caught dead riding at night. the hell with that crap!
WINNER: Tie
a good thing about helmet mounted lights is theat wherever you look thats where the lights is but the can break alot easier than bar mounter bar mounted lights are more durable but the lights points in front of the bar not always you
WINNER: Tie
The barmounted light is much better than the helmetmounted, mainly because is if you fall with a helmetmounted light, most likey it will be broken or banged up pretty bad.
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When I see a man in lycra shorts I want to mount him on my bar. Lycra is for homos.
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I've been using a Petzl cavers lamp on my helmet since '93 so some bike company owes me a buck or two in royalties ...
Seriously though the winner is "use both" if you can only use one pick helmet mounted.
WINNER: Tie
currently running a dual light bar mount and looking into making a helmet mount to complete the setup - while settle for one when you can ride both!
WINNER: Tie
Ok i have been using a bar mounted light for the last 8 years. I read how many of you like helmet lights and thought I would give it a try. WHAT are you thinking about!!! If you are the lead rider everything is fine but if you are in the middle of a pack of riders forget it!!! the dust makes for a nice glare shield and you can't see anything!!! bar mount all the way!!!!!!!!!!
WINNER: Barmounted
helmet mounted hands down, when you are in the dark woods you want the light directed by where you turn your head not the direction your bike is pointed
WINNER: Helmetmounted
You need both. No contest!! HID needs to get cheaper then we'll talk again!!
WINNER: Tie
The right answer is both. One pointing where you're going (bar), and one where you want to go (helmet). If I had to have just one, it'd without a doubt be a helmet mount. But having both enables you to run a lighter light on the helmet (a 15 watter) rather than those monstrous HID's which, while they throw a lot of light, can feel HEAVY after a night epic.
WINNER: Tie
You want the light to go the same way your eyes does, don't you? There can be only one choice, helmetmounted! I've got a Mila 10W Headlamp and it's very good. Everyone knows how dark it is here in Sweden.......
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Both is better than either, and I think Ken from Philly gives good setup advice. I would add that it's important to make certain that, if one light is going to be brighter than the other, make sure it's the helmet mounted light if you can. If the light you can direct wherever you need it to check out your line options is not more dim than your bar light, your eyes won't have to adjust to less light when you're trying to get an impression of those options quickly.
Another good rule is to put the more narrow, focused spot beam on your helmet (again, for picking out specific lines at greater distances) and have a wide, flood beam on your bars for general see-everything-in-the-immediate-area illumination.
Failing to run a matched set of bar- and helmet-mounted lights at once, I have used both solo bar-mounted and solo helmet-mounted lights and will pick helmet-mounted over bar-mounted every time. Most of the trails I ride seem to be far too twisty for a bar-mounted light to cut the mustard.
To say "why would you look where your bike isn't going?" is definitely funny, but it's putting the cart before the horse. "Why would I make my bike go somewhere I can't see?" is the question I have asked myself often when I've run bar mounted lights alone. The helmet mounted light allows me to see and pick the line I want to send the bike over just like I do in daylight because I can see everything I need to when I'm looking at it.
If you're going to run a single, bar-mounted light, I think you're better off with a wide angle light with a good-size beam spread than a spot-style light (and use the brightest light you can possibly afford). That way, you at least get some view at the edges for turns. I currently run a NiteRider HID light for which I bought both helmet and bar mounts. The light is dang bright, but as a bar mount, the beam is narrow enough that it's really frustrating to use on local twisties like Tapeworm - forcing me to steer off-trail to try and see around corners so I can set up for the next drop onto a root mass directly into a 90 degree turn. Putting the light on my helmet solves everything, though - the narrow, piercing beam that gives such crisp detail at such great distances is perfect for the type of back & forth scanning that helmet mounting allows.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
This is too easy, helmet mount, hands down, no doubt, if anyone says barmount they have to be a roadie
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Run both. Hemet light points where you are looking, good for corners, and the bar mount help flood the trails. Keep both adjusted approx. at the same spot on the trail when the bar is pointed straight. This prevents a dark spot (area) in between the two points of lights which will make it hard for the eyes to focus on objects from one lighted spot to the other.
WINNER: Tie
I have yet to see a helmetmounted light that can bring the trail lighting power of my barmounted Turbo Cat system. With a barmount system you don't have to wory about cheap velcro helmet attachments that shift around and force you to stop and make adjustments, if you have to bail you won't get tangled in wires, and a solid nickel-metal-hydride battery will outlast most other batteries anyday. Having both would be nice if you can afford the weight. And why would you look where your bike isn't going anyway? In the end, you get what you pay for - so you can't really expect a cheap cat eye to do the trick if you intend to push it after hours.
WINNER: Barmounted
I believe it best to have both but I have expensive taste and I could only afford one so I went with helmet mounted. I had a cheapo bar mount light for many years but I don't think that counted.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
I personally perfer a set of both the better light you get with the handlebar mounted set and the easy to point helmet mounted but to save cash you need a handlebar mounted set on there own
WINNER: Tie
Barmounted, but only if it is a L&M ARC. Anything else gets pretty spooky without a helmet mount.
WINNER: Barmounted
Having both is great, but if left to just one, I would always go with the helmet mounted version. Tight twisty forested singletrack? The light goes where you need to look. Problem on the trail? The light goes where you need to look.
Some of the new systems are realllly bright and illuminate the trail even for high speed descents... and the helmet doesn't seem to "bounce" the light around as much in such a situation.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
use both, but turn one off on the uphills and bust it back on when u get to a dh section. u dont need both when ur going slow.
WINNER: Tie
Helmet Mounted: for tight singletrack at night there is no comparison. Riding with a bar mount light leaves too many blind spots when navigating sharp corners. With a helmet mount you can see everywhere your eyes look.
WINNER: Tie
It would depend on what type of night riding you do. If you are just commuting then get a bar mounted, if you go on easy paced trails then a helmet, and if you go on high speed trails i would highly reccomend you use a helmet and a barmounted light.
WINNER: Tie
i would never ride without both. but if i really had to choose one, it would probably be the bar mount. with just the helmet light, if you are going pretty fast and look away for a second, the light in front of you disappears for a second. kinda weird. you have to concentrate more on where your head is pointed.
WINNER: Barmounted
I do a bit of nite riding and would agree that both are best. The helmet light renders the terrain too flat , but enables you to look ahead and around corners. Whatever light you use, don't let it run down to yellow or you will fry your battery!!!
I have two on the bars and one on my helmet....used to have a nightsun XC and sunsport but now have TURBOCATS which are the absolute bomb. I wholeheartedly recommend them.
WINNER: Tie
I do a bit of nite riding and would agree that both are best. The helmet light renders the terrain too flat , but enables you to look ahead and around corners. Whatever light you use, don't let it run down to yellow or you will fry your battery!!!
I have two on the bars and one on my helmet....used to have a nightsun XC and sunsport but now have TURBOCATS which are the absolute bomb. I wholeheartedly recommend them.
WINNER: Tie
If you ride hard at night you'll find that you might want both. The first time I rode with just my bike-mounted NiteRider dual beam, the light was more than adequate for the trail, but it lacked the fill-in required when looking around or spotting for potholes. I had a pretty bad wipe-out one time because of the fact. The additional where-you-look-you-see spotlight on the helmet does the trick in complimenting a bike mounted system.
WINNER: Tie
It depends on what kind of riding you do. I ride cross country. I love single track, but I don't get much chance to do it around here. On single track I think I'd be wanting both. I don't think either one alone would do the job in the dark on a twisty narrow trail with innumerable obstacles if you want to go the same speed as you would during a clear daylight ride. On the other hand, if I was only allowed to use one or the other, I'd choose the lights I have now because they're completely adjustable mid-ride.
I did see many people say that bar mounted is no good if you need to stop and fix something on your bike, but that's only true for static mounts. I have Cat Eye Daylights II. The battery is big but not TOO heavy and the lights and mounts themselves are as light as could be. More over each of the two light heads are adjustable up/down, left/right mid-ride, and if you have to fix something in the dark you can just slide the lights off they're mounts with the cords still attached and point them wherever you like. The whole system can be taken off the bike instantly and placed however you like for whatever you need to see--like when you went on vacation and didn't pay the electricity bill before you left and your bike lights are the only thing in the house that works!
Only one or the other? I choose my bar mounted lights with independently adjustable heads and quick release mounts.
WINNER: Barmounted
Both IMO are by far the best option, a long narrow high watt beam on the head, and a lower power wide angle on the bars.
However if you can only have one the head mount wins.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Neither of them......Ride during the day, not the night
WINNER: Tie
I've used the bar mount light its great if your going on a jeep trial or any other road but as far as going on a trail w/lots of hills and turns the helmet light is the way to go because you can see and adjust for the turn before you get to it.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
I think anyone that mountain bikes has to admit that it's mo betta to light up where your going to be in two seconds (ie. switchbacks) A helmet mounted light allows you to do that. All my buddies rode bar mounted lights and switched over when I got my headtrip. It has a very small Nickle Metal Hydride battery that fits right in my camelback and doesn't add weight or become cumbersome on my frame. It's halogen bulb is plenty bright for me. Sounds like some of you guys want to look like a freakin UFO on the trail... that's no fun either. Helmet mount all the way baby!
WINNER: Helmetmounted
This is a no brainer: go both. You use the helmet light to see where are you going to, and you use the bar light to see the trail where are you riding on. In 24 hour races you need both of them, plain and simple. Always buy a reliable, water resistant light system like NiteRider, and never, never buy a light system of less than 10 watts.
WINNER: Tie
For trail riding, go for both. i have a 12w/20w dual beam on my handle bars which provides plenty of light to ride, except when i want to look to the side, get something out of my camelbak or fix a flat. both have their advantages, so i say use both of them. a 6w light on the helmet serves fine (we want to conserve that battery power for those unexpected epic rides)
WINNER: Tie
if you want to see where YOU are going or fix a flat in the dark helmet mounted light are king. If you are commuting to/from work and have to ride at night handle bar mounted light rule because they simply donot put out enough light to see by you have learn to read the road at night. but they do let you be seen, especialy if you aim the light up into the car windows instead of down at the road. some of the new units with monsterous Nicad pack MIGHT be able to provide enough light to see by but not many and not at anything resembling a reasonable price.
WINNER: Tie
Helmet mounted Night Vision Goggles work reel good in lo lite conditions. better than a light, not much depth perception so its easy to get two black eyes. If youre hollywood like me, than you like to spend money on Ti bikes and bottle holders, you can afford these. theyre only 10,000 dollars. Less than you spend on your hi tech lubes.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Helmet mounted Night Vision Goggles work reel good in lo lite conditions. better than a light, not much depth perception so its easy to get two black eyes. If youre hollywood like me, than you like to spend money on Ti bikes and bottle holders, you can afford these. theyre only 10,000 dollars. Less than you spend on your hi tech lubes.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
the bar mounted light is better
WINNER: Barmounted
depends what you wont to doo with the bike.
if iou wont to make a downhill i thinck helmetmounted is better
if you wont to go for a ride or a cross-country barmounted is better.
im sossy for my gramery but y dont now to write in english well
WINNER: Tie
Bar mount works good all the time. Helmet mount is wourthlees on a dusty ride. It will only light up the dust and blind you. Helmet works good on road and damp trails or any dust free environment.
Laaate Dan
WINNER: Barmounted
helmet by far
WINNER: Helmetmounted
helmet by far
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I have never used a helmit mounted light as of yet...
But, the idea appeals to me in the idea that I ride a lot of trails as well as some pavement at night. I like the idea of being able to put the spot where I am looking especially on downhill where as I lead the trail 2-4 seconds ahead. Especally at night when knowing exactly what hazards are ahead of me from rocks, roots, dogs, pedestrians to cars. It would really be nice for a control freak to have more control over my spot.
But, I would have to say that for trail riding I would use both the helmit mount as well as the bar mount. I want to me a damn train blowing down the tracks. I've had to many collisions at night. (Grin)
WINNER: Tie
Unfortunately you really need both. The helmet mount gives you directional light in the areas you are looking (such as lighting a sharp curve) and the bar light gives you the forward trail lighting you need for fast technical downhill sections. I would get a good dual light bar mount first then add the helmet.
WINNER: Tie
Asking helmet or bar mount is like asking if you use your left or right eye. Before you spend the money on or carry the weight of a dual lighting system, buy two single lights. You need both.
WINNER: Tie
As I had extensive motorcycle background I initially went with bar-mounted, and bought a helmet mounted later. The helmet light is more "efective" light, more stable(well-removed from vibration)with even less wattage... However, to REALLY go fast into the darkness, use BOTH! Go helmet if you can only get one.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
I have a dual beam light that is money on the handlebars. set up so i can see the trail up to 10 ft. in front of me on the lowest wattage setting. Light is too bulky to put on the helmet
WINNER: Barmounted
Well bar mounted lights are good but take a lot off your eyes once turning a real tight corner. Meanwhile the helmet mounted light is right there where ever your eyes goes. I'll say helmet mounted lights are the winner.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
You need them both. Helmet light focuses up the trail (main vision focus) and the handlebar lights up where the bike is and this is where you use your peripheral vision. Your talking long and short term vision and if you have ANY night riding experience you know what I'am talking about.
WINNER: Tie
If I only can have one or the other I would deffinitley pick bar mount
If you've ever raced on a dusty dry course at night you get to much glare with the helmet light,it's like riding in fog. But on the other hand helmet mounts are great in twisty single track.
WINNER: Barmounted
I own several sets of lighting systems and frequently ride at night. I recently bought a new Niterider Storm (helmet mount). Currently this is the only light I use and it's so bright that it's the only one I need. If you have to choose between the two go with a helmet mount. You typically ride where your looking and it's much easiser to look further up the trail with a helmet mount. In addition a helmet mount stays more stable as it is supported by your body. Bar mounts shake as you descend and swing back and forth on steep climbs. It's also much easier to see around tight switchbacks.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
I own several sets of lighting systems and frequently ride at night. I recently bought a new Niterider Storm (helmet mount). Currently this is the only light I use and it's so bright that it's the only one I need. If you have to choose between the two go with a helmet mount. You typically ride where your looking and it's much easiser to look further up the trail with a helmet mount. In addition a helmet mount stays more stable as it is supported by your body. Bar mounts shake as you descend and swing back and forth on steep climbs. It's also much easier to see around tight switchbacks.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
bar mounted definately. i dont always keep my eyes on teh trail and if im starin off with a helmet mount then i wont be able to see that deer blockin the trail. but with the bar mounts the lights always on the trail area.
WINNER: Barmounted
With 16 years of off road night riding experience, the only real answer can be "both."
You get all of the advantages of both and by shutting one or the other off, you get rid of the disadvantages (such as helmet lights in the fog = a white wall in front of your face.)
WINNER: Tie
Depends on where you ride. On rolling trails the helmet, but for rides that have steep long out of saddle climbs the bar is the only way to go. Picture riding up steep for half an hour plus with a helmet light with your head constantly looking up. Also, going downhill on a rough trail is dizzying with a constantly rattling helmet light - no matter how good fitting your helmet is. But of course both would be best.
My 2 cents.
WINNER: Tie
If you race at night you definitley need both for rec riding one or the other off road, bar for road.
WINNER: Tie
Helmet lights give a much better pattern, throwing the light further and wider. However they can mislead the rider in that the lack of shadow on the ground often makes it look flat where it is not. They also have the distinct advantage of lighting where you look, not where the bars are pointing. The additional benefit is that you do not get so much lamp shake i.e. it is steadier.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Barmount gives more shades/contrasts and lights up the path where your handlebar is pointing. Helmetmount gives less contrast but gives you the freedom of riding with higher speed in corners and to search for the right path. For road use; Barmount. For mnt use; Both.
WINNER: Tie
You are better off with both. The bar mounted light helps illuminate the trail directly where the front wheel is pointing, but by it's self it creates shadows that make trail obstacles appear larger than they really are. The helmet mounted light gives you a higher light source giving you somewhat truer shadows. The helmet mount also lets you see around corners or switchbacks so you can plan your line before your bike is actually pointing in the right direction. It's also easier to look for trail markers, landmarks, dropped tools, etc. Besides I forgot my helmet light one ride and had to constantly wiggle my handlebars to look for trail markers on the tree trunks at the side of the trail.
WINNER: Tie
I have a Night-Sun XC for 4 years (barmounted); I have been banded by the wife from obtaining helmet mounted light; however, I will obtain one within two months. I prefer both, for safety and visibility.
WINNER: Tie
two on bars one on helmet tie
if i had to chose,it would be bar
the wire would be too annoying
WINNER: Tie
Have used my Jet Phantom Single Beam helmet mounted light twice since I ordered it from Jett a few weeks ago. It works great! I have the 20 watt version and it's powerful.
I would go with the helmet mount because you want the light to be where you are looking.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
both. I would like to run a helmet and a br mount, but i can only afford a helmet. Reason? because i can look around w/a helmet light, and i get more light with a barmounted so i dont go off 5 foot dropoffs when i think they are 3. that one hurt a lot. i didnt see how tall it actually was till i was pointed straight down because of where my helmet light was aimed. this way with both, one would always be pointed the way i am going.
WINNER: Tie
duh
WINNER: Helmetmounted
I use both. I ind that the helmet mounted light is the best thing going when coming down switchbacks, otherwise the bar mounted work great. Another advantage to the helmet light is you can set off your bike and use the helmet light as a work light to repair flats etc.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
They work best together. Also, if one fails you always have a back-up
WINNER: Tie
If you are like me and ride in the winter months after work, both are the ONLY way to go. I have tried useing just one or the other and find my-self hacking all over the trails. If you must to choose between one or the other, I would recommend the head light for sure. The deciding factor is with a light on your helmet you can see around corners, especialy in tight single-track situations. The light is always where you want it to be.
--David Morse
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Of course... helmet all the way. Bar mount lights often sway out of required night vision. Helmet gives you the vision you need when riding single trails in the DARK !
WINNER: Helmetmounted
i find a combination of the 2 works best.
WINNER: Tie
I find it hard to keep balance with only a helmet light. The bar set mounted low (on the forks) accompanied by the lid torch is the best I find.
WINNER: Tie
Helmet mounted seems to be much better for me. I like to be able to look ahead.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Helmet lights are way better. Your bar mounts bouce all over the trail. They only point where you're going, but not where you want to look. I ride tight singletrack rooted trails and found that only helmet lights give you the better riding light.
I road over 7 years night riding with my two nightride lights. I'm done to two barries and one helmet light. I have two friends, who use the niteride "Blow torch" and I enjoy have them behind me. They light up most of the trail in front of me. I never had a bar mount light that would not lose the black spots (when you go over rocks and trees). I could look at those spots with my helmet light.
The only disadvantage I found with helmet lights are if you go fast downhill and your helmet isn't tight, then your light bouces all over the trail.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
i like the freedom of it being on my helmit
WINNER: Helmetmounted
They work best together.
WINNER: Tie
If you only go with one, helmet mount. I splurged this year and got the Storm HID helmet light. Good god. My friends force me to lead because of the shadow my light creats in front of them.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
For night riding singletrack (an amazing rush everytime)I've used both, and sometimes still use both. If you gotta pick just one...go with the helmet mount.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
I have to say that in my neck of the woods, a helmet light wins. I prefer a wide angle on my head and a wide angle and spot on my handle bars. I have a thumb switch on the spot so I can turn is on and off. I only use the spot when I'm on a straight long stretch.
In tight wooded areas it works better of have a wide light pointed where your looking. Your handle bars are seldom pointed where your looking!
WINNER: Helmetmounted
I use both my self . Use the bar light for closer and the helmet for a little further out. If I was to only choose one it would be helmet because you can look around. on the bars you have to look where the bars are pointed
WINNER: Tie
In the tight stuff you can look where you're going to be before you get there. 'Nuff said - out.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
Although I have a dual-beam bar mount, I'd go with helmet mounted next time.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
If only one light, go helmet. In the end, the true all-around mountain cyclist uses both helmet and bar mount for night excursions, 24-hr events, and all day adventures ending an hour or two after dark. Several yards in front of you is illuminated by the bar mount, while your helmet light reveals what lies around the corner.
WINNER: Tie
If only one light, go helmet. In the end, the true all-around mountain cyclist uses both helmet and bar mount for night excursions, 24-hr events, and all day adventures ending an hour or two after dark. Several yards in front of you is illuminated by the bar mount, while your helmet light reveals what lies around the corner.
WINNER: Tie
One of each. The helmet mount is the only way to actually focus on what's around the corner. A more powerful bar mount for the hairy decents.
WINNER: Tie
I think they are both needed. For 24 hr. races you are required to have both. For recreational riding helmet mounts are good to see past your path of movement and bar mounts are good for keeping you destination lighted at all times.
WINNER: Tie
I only use the helmet mounted lighting system in order to save weight and money. I chose the helmet over the bar because your head can move to see what is coming next rather than staying on the trail and being surprised on what lies ahead.
WINNER: Helmetmounted
you gotta have both to see anything, so they tie
WINNER: Tie
IT IS VITAL TO HAVE A HELMET MOUNT, BECAUSE YOUR HEAD IS ALWAYS LOOKING IN THE DIRECTION YOU ARE TRAVELING. AN ADDITIONAL BAR MOUNT LIGHT IS EXCEPTIONAL FOR THE CLIMBS AND THE DOWNHILL.
WINNER: Tie
Both types of lighting systems are crucial. And it always pays to have a back-up in case one goes out (of course, if both go out, then you're really screwed).
The helmet mounted one allows you to see around twisty singletrack. The bar mounted light helps cast shadows to provide better depth perception. Use both types of lights together and you're dialed.
WINNER: Tie
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