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Date: March 12, 2006
jonny a downhiller from UK writes:
no shimano? WTF?
Saints are easily the best performing brake out there (apart from Avid Juicys which are fantastic, but I'd rather have Saints). Modulation and power is unbelivable, piss easy to fit and maintain.
Hopes are lame. Way harder to set up, poor modulation, poor power really. Expensive too.
Gustavs are just too much, especially here in the UK.
Pro Stop? Rock Shox? Coda? Yeah great.
Shimano for the win. Easily.
Also, this 'lets hate Shitano cool-kid' image is a bunch of toss. Get real, they are some of the best performing components out there.
WINNER: Other
hayes: dependable, strong, dependable.
WINNER: Hayes
Avid Mechanicals rule !!!
WINNER: Other
Avid Mechanicals rule !!!
WINNER: Other
Avid Mechanicals are the best freakin' disc brakes in the world !!! I know because I own them and you don't . If you do own them then you know that they are inexpensive , easy to maintain , and they stop on a dime . Why spend craploads of money for other brands when you can buy Avids and get the best performance for the least amount of money ? All the other brands are for rich pantywaists with too much money and way too much time on their hands . They should all get real jobs and find out how hard it is to make a living nowadays . Rich know-it-all snobs with their $3,000 mountain bikes !!! They suck .
WINNER: Other
I have owned two out of the seven types of brakes , FORMULA open system the only good thing about them was guys saying wow sik brakes man and thats it, they dont stop, they loose preasure for no reason half way down a run. you can not rely on these to stop you !!
my mums 15 year old 3 speed has better brakes, as for Hayes they will pull you up as fast as you want. A very strong and consistent system no matter how fast you desend .
WINNER: Hayes
Hayes Hydrolic. HFX-9xc rule!
WINNER: Hayes
Easy maintenance strong performer
WINNER: Hope
The four piston XT hydraulics have incredible stopping power, plus very good modulation. But you are always fussing with the alignment of hydraulic brakes, plus if you crash and wreck a lever/master cylinder, the cost is ridiculous. I find Avid mechanicals to have plenty of stopping power,are easy to set up, don't drag, levers are cheap, the whole system costs half of hydraulic, and are long wearing. A NO BRAINER
WINNER: Other
hope cum wit intonational standerd fittings and arnt as expencive and sum of the competitors.
ant the new vertions lok the best
WINNER: Hope
i haven't got any of these disc brakes but i find the tektro discs on my gt chucker 1.0 to be pretty decent
WINNER: Other
Hayes bitch
WINNER: Hayes
Hayes is probly light, that magura looks super heavy, but id have to say hayes, dont noe to much about disks
WINNER: Hayes
hmmm...i ride with GT Chucker 1.0 and just replaced old disks. Now i use Avid disk brakes. Works just fine (Y) better then my old ones =D
WINNER: Other
Definitely the hope. I got the mono mini on advice for my friend and it just started to bite and is also exceptionally light
WINNER: Hope
Brakes? Why would you want brakes? If you need to stop use a tree, it's cheaper.
WINNER: Other
Hayes baby
WINNER: Hayes
diskbrake diametre 10cm
WINNER: Other
Hayes are the best disc brakes
WINNER: Hayes
By far Grimeca System 18 I.B.S there tough cookies the I.B.S system is great for full on applications try em' out when you got 6 pots per caliper fully depressed your really cookin'
WINNER: Other
It's the only one I have.. :-D
WINNER: Hope
We have a fleet of 6 bikes with Avid Mechanical Disc brakes, and many of my riding buddys have chosen this brake as well. At about $140 per set and weighing in about 600 gm, compared to the ones listed these are cheaper and a bit heavier. The nice feature is the Caliper Positioning System, which simplifies installation. You might find the mechanical to be simpler and more robust than the hydraulic, albeit a hydraulic line is easier to route than a cable.
WINNER: Other
i think their cool
WINNER: Hayes
it has to be hayes or hope!
WINNER: Hope
Brakeset Hayes Sole XC, hydraulic disc is the best.
WINNER: Hayes
The Hayes look the best and i have some and they are great
WINNER: Hayes
just bought a giant nrs with giant adjustable hydraulic brakes,i removed the standard rotors,and replaced them with wavy discs this eliminated the brake fade,better braking,cooling,cleaning and reduced overall weight!!! just as good as a �300+ set. . .SPIFFING!
WINNER: Other
I havent tried any of the ones listed, but I have tried the Shimano Deore XT Hydraulic Disc's and they are amazing!
WINNER: Other
Hayes, only, espically the hfx 9 hydros
WINNER: Hayes
XC - Hayes !
WINNER: Hayes
Hayes Hayes ... good for XC
WINNER: Hayes
Hey, no AShimano Disc here, Deore Hydros is OK but XTR is da great!
WINNER: Other
I see the disc world as having two differing selections, mech and hydro. I really don't have a preference on either type, but I do for the manufacturers of them. For mech discs I would have to say hands down avid. They are easy to maintain and personally I think they provide great feel and power. I've been largely unimpressed with offerings by Shimano and Hayes for mech discs. They feel cheap and I don't appreciate plastic! Hydro discs are bit harder for me to decide on a complete winner. On a cross country rig I gotta love the hayes. They feel the best in terms of modulation and power. They're also really easy to bleed and setup. However, when I hit some serious DHing I gotta take the Avid Juicy 7s. They seem to have the most control, just maybe on the heavy side.
WINNER: Other
Situation will dictate your needs. But, even with that said, Avid mechs are perhaps one of the greatest upgrades in terms of cost, power, and simplicity. Avid 160mm calipers, Shimano RT77 XT Splined Rotors.
WINNER: Other
Hayes all the way.
WINNER: Hayes
plise add hope mono m 6
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Avid mechanical discs. better than hydraulic. i'm serious.
WINNER: Other
None of the above. As much as I'm not a fan of Shimano, i've got to give them props for the old xt four pot brake -- which I think was made by grimeca. Awesome brake.
- Hopes: work well enough, cool cnc workmanship, a little pricey.
- Maguras: way too fiddly if you ever have to work on them.
- Hayes: brake fluid (why?), funky non-standard mount (why?), otherwise nice enough brakes. They actually bleed easily enough, ya just gotta be careful not to get brake fluid on the bike's finish as it'll eat it off.
Haven't tried the others.
WINNER: Other
hayes are the best on the market i have them they are good for downhill
WINNER: Hayes
hayes are the best on the market i have them they are good for downhill
WINNER: Hayes
hayes are the best on the market i have them they are good for downhill
WINNER: Hayes
the hope is the gest ing brakes
WINNER: Hope
DH4 All the power you will ever need even with a 160mm rotor on my 29"er Disc SingleSpeed
WINNER: Hope
hayes owns i have tested all of these brands the hayes are just the best no problem
WINNER: Hayes
Avid mechanicals are the winner! Iv'e ridden mine for 2 seasons now & couldn't be happier with them. They are inexpensive, super easy to set up, can easily be adjusted on the trail with no tools and cables have never let me down! I read all these posts in the brake forum about all the troubles with expensive hydaulic brakes & wonder how could you not want the simplicity & affordability of the avids? I have never had to walk out of a ride because of a brake failure. IMO the trade off of reliabilty/for the hydro lever feel just isn't worth it! I love these brakes!
WINNER: Other
Well, I guess now we can say RockShox or Avid and have it actually mean SRAM since RockShox and Avid are both under the SRAM wing now.
I choose other - as in Avid Mechanical Disc brakes. I own three pair, 1 pair is the 160mm variety and the other 2 pairs are the 185mm variety. Flawless performance from all three sets. It's no wonder this product has captured so much market share and has such a loyal following. For the price/performance ratio - Avid wins hands down.
WINNER: Other
AVID mech 203mm's are my pick, you cant beat them for their price:value ratio. theyre about half the price of hydro's and with an inexpensive upgrade to the pads (gold level bronze sintered,more power than youll ever need)and the matching avid speed dial's (ultimates really makes this system perfect)
hydros are less adjustable, harder to tune, and more succeptable to damage in wrecks, i stick to cables for anything i could drop on the rocks. i only use hydros in urban environments for their lock up properties.
avid mechs are the best
WINNER: Other
THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE - SHIMANO XTR HYDRAULIC DISC BRAKES PERIOD!
WINNER: Other
Avid all the way....quality yet cheap...hayes suck
WINNER: Other
when i was looking at the different brakes i wasnt going for cost i had a long look at all of them, looking closely at the codas i saw that they were alot more afficiant and would stop the bike alot quiker than the other disc brakes and as i was trying them out i found out i was correct
WINNER: Coda
rockshox is the lightiest
WINNER: Rockshox / Amp
AVID MECHANICALS 160MM
WINNER: Other
hayes baby
WINNER: Hayes
the Magura are going to stop you quicker with more contact area and a beafy calliper to resist flex. the rotors are also very beafy so they wont flex or bend as easly if you case it into a quarry or something(i've done it...can you tell!)
WINNER: Magura
Less braking allows for increased momentum. Hayes hydro's offer the best modulation and reliability of any of these models. I used Avid Mechanicals for 1 year, and now, after riding 1 year with Hayes Hydros, I realized how bad teh avid's really were...
WINNER: Hayes
avid all the way, best mech discs ever
WINNER: Other
AVID MECHANICALS !!! No hydraulic mess. Better Setup. Cheaper.
...AND they stop as good as the hydraulic brakes !!!
WINNER: Other
Avid wasn't even on the list. If you have V-brakes and want to keep the levers the Avid Mechanicals are awesome!!!
WINNER: Other
I think that the real winner is the shimano xtr.
WINNER: Other
wantin to try disc brakes
WINNER: Formula
hayes, light and inexspensive
WINNER: Hayes
discos
WINNER: Hayes
Hopes are the most reliable brakes out there. Period.
WINNER: Hope
Hopes...duh.
WINNER: Hope
OLD!!!!!!!
WINNER: Other
Hayes are the best. the are the most derable light and dot stop till u drop. iv never had the wear out on me and iv hadsome other dick and it was crap
WINNER: Hayes
Grimeca, hayes is only pumped up because of advertising otherwise they are the bottom of the line.
WINNER: Other
Hayes are good but I got sick of bleeding them. After riding a pair of Avid cable actuated I found they had ample power and modulation to make the ease of cables worth it. I have since switched both my mountain bikes to Avids.
WINNER: Other
hope mini mono's awesome!
WINNER: Hope
I like Avid mechanicals the best! -low price, no hassels of bleeding/cutting tubing to exact lengths, great modulation/lever feel, no worries of possible hydraulic failure. The money/performance ratio just can't be beat! All around low maintenance.
WINNER: Other
Magura is the best brake period. My Martas have the best modulation and brute stopping power than any other brake system I've used. Coda is junk, Hope is good, and everything else doesn't matter.
WINNER: Magura
hayes is the only way to go. they are the best, nothing more to say.
WINNER: Hayes
I have rode on both hayes and rock shock. I had serious problems with the rock shock. The bike shop eventually took them off and put on hayes. They are sometimes fussy but they are relatively simple and they stop me.
WINNER: Hayes
Great brake, lite and stops well, take some beding in
WINNER: Formula
avid mechanicals the best
WINNER: Other
try grimeca
WINNER: Other
those brakes are OLDD
WINNER: Other
Avid
WINNER: Other
Think about it, what are brakes for? Brakes are to slow you down, to prevent you from going faster - brakes are for pussies. You should always go as fast as your bike can go. And if you crash, you'll slow down. You don't need brakes. That's what trees are for.
WINNER: Trees
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I find it laughable to read that if someone thinks the pros ride the product, the it has to be good. Bullshit! Your talking about professionals who can outride all of us stuck on a mountainbike circa 1989.
As an amateur, do YOU have a professional mechanic to fix all the good and bad on your bike each day? No. Duh. If the item breaks, will you get a brand new one as a replacement part, and will you continue to get a brand new one each time it breaks? No. Duh. As long as the bike isn't SLOWED DOWN by the product AND there's BIG money involved, I would questions the logic to cite a pro and all the goodies they have one their bikes. Quite frankly, if you were paid for example to ride a season with Formula brakes on your bike for 50K each year, I KNOW you'd have it on your bike each race. And after each race you'll talk up the crappy product because you don't know any better. Because after all, you mechanic fixes the shit to last just long-enough for the race. Please...
WINNER: Other
Hayes have the experience to back their product up. Low maintnaince, high power and clean design all add to why Hayes are better. Most bike companies and pro riders are seen riding Hayes and for good reason.
WINNER: Hayes
because they came with my bike
WINNER: Hayes
hayes are awsome! provide awsome stoping power with light weight perfomence and duribility. Theres no question about it, go hayes.
WINNER: Hayes
In my opinion the best brake is Magura Gustaw cos it has a very good modulation & it's very strong brake. I haven't had any problems with it though I start in dh reces.
WINNER: Magura
Hayes all they way i have hayes mech, but there is a good reason why hayes hydros are the most popular disc - because they aregood and cheap
WINNER: Hayes
Hayes all the way ! Low cost hi endurance and low weight . and just a question , Rockshox made disc brake ?? wtf
WINNER: Hayes
Hayes dominates this category hands down. You can't beat the performance, weight, and cost of this system.
WINNER: Hayes
hello my name is hayley i am from peterborough and i say hi and what are you up to well i better go so seya
WINNER: Hayes
Shimano XTR disc brake !!! i think it is not necessary to explain more
WINNER: Other
After running a set of Hayes mechs on my bike, and seeing what my partner did with his Avids, I have to promounce it a dead heat -- get whichever one will save you a few bucks. Either will work well enough to throw my Clydesdale a$$ over the bars!
WINNER: Hayes
I dont want to say anything too intelligent but it is the setup of most brakes which determines the stopping power. Having said that I use Hayes cable discs, they are simple and cheap.
WINNER: Hayes
hayes all the way.
WINNER: Hayes
the real thing !!!
WINNER: Rockshox / Amp
Mechanicals are better than alot of people say they are but the superior stopping power of hydraulic often comes in handy right now on my 99' enduro fsr i have avid mechalical disk and i can stop on a dime but sometimes coming downhill i can feel it let loose just a slight bit go hydraulic and go hayes the original!
WINNER: Hayes
There is a product here in the Phils. branded "Men on Bike" ( w/c I cannot see in MTB Mags or even in the internet ) It is a mechanical disc brake but the feel of a Hydraulic, its stopping power is much ok than my Shimano Deore, the best thing is the price costinng only $65.00. Many downhillers here are using it because it is very economical yet the quality is not reduced ( or much better )!
WINNER: Other
Hope Mini's are excellent. Nicely adjustable lever engagement. Easy to install. Work great. Light weight. What more can you ask?
WINNER: Hope
I now own one bike with Hayes mechanical and one haydralic. I would have to go mechanical. hydralic are much harder to set up repair and get parts for. I had pro max mechanical unitl I swtiched to hayes and the pro max are the worst brakes I have ever had!
WINNER: Hayes
Hayes Rock. They are light and responsive. The only way to go.
WINNER: Hayes
from a mechanics point of view, hope and hayes are the only two systems i would consider. mechanical discs have no place in the off road world. buy cheap, buy twice
WINNER: Hope
Avid Mechanical brakes are the way to go!!!
WINNER: Other
MAGURA LUISE AND HAYES
WINNER: Other
I like my hayes because when i pull the lever im confident im gunna stop. It also has the best modulation of the others. Hayes all the way!!!
WINNER: Hayes
Hayes....from my point of view and experience are much more reliable than any other brand, they do a very good job, i m sure there are more powerfull ones, but hayes have already some history behind...
WINNER: Hayes
The single greatest company with the best track record among any single components company in mountain biking today is shimano and their discs from the 525s to the new XTRs are the best in fashion, function and feel, impossible to resist.
WINNER: Other
Well I really like Avid mech over hydraulic. With mech all I have to worry about is cable stretch as where hydro I have to worry aabout bleeding and leaks and seals. Avid all the way with the 8" rotor.
WINNER: Other
Hayes HFX Mag. They just work and work darned well. There are lighter - but I'm not sure better. Great modulation, stopping power, pads last ok. Again - they just work!
WINNER: Hayes
I don't know who wins, but Pro Stop loses!
WINNER:
I don't know who wins, but Pro Stop loses!
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hope rules u all drules so suck ma fukin cok coz u all cok sukin ass pinchin dik less twats
p.s americans u are total dicks u fink ur so fukin good but u aint nothin like us brits so suck an ya mamas tits. wankers
WINNER: Hope
Disc Brakes on a bike? Yeah rite, next someone will claim multi-speeds higher than 10, Yeah rite.
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everyone, there is an awnser. it is to shut the up and ride a bike with whatever in breaks you got on it now. that said, ya'll are annoying, suck a dick
WINNER: Other
hayes....wut else do i have to say ther the BEST!!!
WINNER: Hayes
I have really enjoyed riding with Hayes, however I have been getting some minor squeeking that gets quite annoying. Performance, can't be beat!
WINNER: Hayes
We are talking about brakes that stop 28-40lbs mountain bikes here. Not twin six pot billet calipers that would pull-up a Yamaha R1 from 200MPH. I vote for QMD-4 mechanical discs....fully adjustable and will stop an MTB with ease.
WINNER: Other
Hayes brakes are the original and give you the best performance without the weight.
WINNER: Hayes
Hayes hydrolics. They are the best at stopping anywhere.
WINNER: Hayes
My XT Disc brakes have done me proud. Great stopping power and excellent modulation, you just tell them how fast you want to go and they'll do the rest. Look good, feel good. Use them for a combo of freeride, xc and dh. They work well in all conditions, no complaints.
WINNER: Other
My Avid ball bearing mechs work better than my 6" Hays Hydros. I use the 8" Avids on my freeride 67 and it shaves off the speed fast and constant on them down hill runs. I don't know how the Hays 8" work but these mechs are way cheaper and plenty powerful enough for anything I go up against. I weigh 220lb so these brakes are stopping some momentum. I wouldn't have believed mechs to be as good as any size Hydros until I tried them. The only reason I did is because of cost. I was going to sacrifice some power(compared to hydros) just to have disc brakes. Truth is these Avids are just as good.
WINNER: Other
'tsall about hayes man. not the mechanicals. DONT GET THE MECHANICALS. go with the 8"Mags. also...theyre the lightest for all those weight conserned xc guys.
WINNER: Hayes
after riding hayes for about a year i can say that hope minis are the way to go. quality and performance.
WINNER: Hope
Rule Britannia! My closed system Hope XC4s are light and really work. Setting them up took minutes. Ignore the "weights" above each disc model is customed to XC, trails, or downhill. I'd never fit downhill discs to my XC bike but then I don't need to brake at 50mph down a near vertical slope (well not on most XC courses anyway!).
WINNER: Hope
Hays will work with lots of tinkering. When they work they work. but trying to get them to work SUCKS! Do not buy them! The equipment they give you doesnt work well and the instructions are terrible. The company who can do a better job at making something that is user friendly to service will win!!!!
WINNER: Other
YO!! What happened to AVID Mechanicals from the choices above???!!! Hydraulic brakes are great, but not everybody is a seasoned mechanic. Too much hassel to service hydraulics. unless you love fidling around with "hydraws" and love bleeding, MECHANICAL brakes are the way to go and AVID Mechs are the best out there. EQUAL if not BETTER STOPPING POWER THAN THE BEST HYDRAULICS out there. Go AVID go!!
WINNER: Other
Avid mechanical is the the best bang for the braking buck. Not sure why Avid has been left out of the main stream disk brake options on this review site, someone asleep at the handlebars.
WINNER: Other
hayes kick ass compared to any other disc.
WINNER: Hayes
Hayes... the first, and the best, all the others are copycats.
WINNER: Hayes
the best only have to look at engineering on them esp the m4
WINNER: Hope
HAVING PURCHASED NEW HAYES AFTER READING ABOUT THEM IN MTB MAGAZINE
HAS BEEN ONE OF THE BEST CHOICES I'VE MADE FOR MY BIKE. ALTHOUGH
AFTER RIDING THREE TIMES NOW THE FT BRAKE IS DRAGGING. STILL PERFORMES THE WAY I LIKE IT TO, BUT METAL DRAGGING NOISE, YOU CAN ONLY
HANDLE SO MUCH. HAYES HAVE BEEN STELLER ON DOWNHILL RIDES, STOPPING POWER LIKE YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE, AND LIGHT. RIDING A FULL SUSPENSION
I NEED ALL THE LIGHTEST PARTS AVAILABLE TO COMPROMISE THE WIEGHT OF A FULL SUSPENSION. RIPPIN ON THE JEKYL.
WINNER: Hayes
I was a mechanic for a major factory team in 98,99. Did anyone ever see when Team Yeti and others used to regularly blow hopes up b/c they overheated? How about magura and the dragging? Rock shox leak like all their forks, formula ingest air when hung upside down, and coda has had multiple recalls on the seals. Pro stop, they leak. Hayes only leak if you are an idiot and hit a tree, they don't drag, overheat, or suck in air.
WINNER: Hayes
After trying the bottom-of-the-line ProMax discs that came on department store crap a couple years ago, I can still stay with no doubt -- DISCS RULE! But unless you're a snob or a downhiller, there's little use for hydraulics. Mechanicals will put you on your face if you're not careful. BUT YOU REALLY NEED AVIDS!
WINNER: Other
Hope coz they're English and so am I. That means I don't pay import tax and they're cheaper than anything else listed.
That, and American engineering sucks.
WINNER: Hope
Avis Mechanical discs for me! I've tried my friend's Hayes and we all agree the Avis Mech's are easier to adjust, lighter, relaible, and cheaper.
WINNER: Other
No Contest...
WINNER: Hope
who left shimano XT out of the equation....no contest... and best of all no leaks!!!
WINNER: Other
Hope Mini wins in all categories for Cross Country: Performance - modulation is super smooth, perform flawlessly in all conditions; Price - $170/wheel less than other substandard hydraulic brakes; Quality - craftsmanship is second to none, levers are super comfortable; Adjustability - Lever throw is easy to adjust (Hayes are not adjustable at all) and installation is simple; Reliability - Superb; Customer Service - Awesome; Lastly - And yes they are British and No I do not work for Hope.
Other brakes used: Hayes and Avid
WINNER: Hope
The arr beturist!!!!!!!
WINNER: Coda
Hayes all the way!
WINNER: Hayes
Hope all the way..........light tought great stoping looks
WINNER: Hope
Coda I think are the baest built to last and not only that they look good my last bike had those discs on it but it was stolen from the biker gang in Dundee i got a better one a Kona Stuff 2002 Model Hardtail and am currently looking for to sell this if anyone is interested it has Marzohhi Suspension on it it's in great nick but back to the point I have Coda discs again and it looks great on my Kona look's better than it did on my Barracuda Oblivion if you are interested please E_mail me or if you want a Kona Stabprimo 2003 model which i am currently selling for a mate pls e_mail me it has discs but i not too sure what kind
WINNER: Coda
Hope MINi's are the dogs doodahs.And theyr British.
WINNER: Hope
Avid mechanicals, without equal. Easy setup, low maintenance, flawless operation, ample stopping power.
WINNER: Other
I've used the RockShox/Amp set up & recently switched to Avid Mech's f&r. Conclusion: A well set up disk is always better than any rim break. I have had both systems running silently with effortless one finger stoppies on demand. I think that the feel you is so much more refined with the disks. You can pin things at the last minute & feel out that edge of grip. Also, arm & hand fatigue is greatly reduced, since it takes a lot more to make those knuckles white. I'm dying to get a set of hopes or hayes sometime in the next year.
WINNER: Hayes
Hayes, shure they may be more epensive, but they kick all others A$$ !
WINNER: Hayes
When i think of disc brakes, the first brand that come to mind are Hayes!!!
WINNER: Hayes
Hayes 8inch RULE!
WINNER: Hayes
Hope Mini. value, performance, looks? Go play in the cold mud and tell me hayes are your choice of stopper. Hope are brakes for everone, not just ski lift fairys.
WINNER: Hope
DUDE HAYES IS THE BEST IM TELLING U GUYS BEcause i have ridden all types of disc's. but if u get disc's get hydraulic its the best.
WINNER: Hayes
hayes
WINNER: Hayes
most stoping power
WINNER: Hayes
Hayes definitly feel the best, but are hard to adjust. I run avid mechs with 8in rotors. They stop awsome and are easy to maintain.
Go avid!!!
WINNER: Other
u are the worst
WINNER: Other
how bout them new xtrs?, for xc, there's no contest here boys
WINNER: Other
you 'ARE KIDDING' right ?
you did NOT even list "THE BEST DISC", overall AVID Mechanicals / NO contest.
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XSIV (a.k.a. Grimeca System 8), fantastic modulation, no squeal, look good, NO fade.
I've ridden Gustav's, Shitmano, and Hayes, and can safely say only the Hayes is in the same league.
WINNER: Other
good
WINNER: Hayes
rock shox
WINNER: Rockshox / Amp
hayes all the way!
WINNER: Hayes
avids come in quite handy when u got 2 feet to stop from hitting a taxi and ur going 30.
WINNER: Other
the winner is magura.Not gustav but Julie.Hard braking power and nice price.
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Have only tried Maguras. The Gustavs have an enormous braking power and they look nice too.
WINNER: Magura
SHIMANO XTR! CASE CLOSED! ALL THE REST STINK INCLUDENG A$$
WINNER:
hope looks the best and coda is also pretty cool
WINNER: Hope
No contest
WINNER: Hayes
they need to start this one over. look at that lineup. they should replace coda, formula, pro stop and rockshox with one word- avid
WINNER: Other
Everyone who voted Hayes, only voted them because they haven't experienced the hopes B4. They are the ultimate stopping machine. What happened to shimanos?
WINNER: Other
Avid mechanical discs-the most stopping power you can possibly get for the least amount of money.period!!!
WINNER: Other
Caveat: I have not owned a pair of Disk brakes. I am currently running Avid Arch rival 50. I wish I had somewhat smoother levers and a bit more modulation especially on technical downhills which I ride on my 99 King Kicksomepoo by the Kona slant eyes.
Most of the Disk brakes I have seen and almost always listen to on the trail seem to generally squeak and grind! I would suffer from slightly reduced brake performance to allow me to hear the trees rustle and the rocks tumble as I ride by.
So for not I will stick with a High Quality V-style brakee.
WINNER: Other
Hayes is by far the best, just look at the ratings. Look at anything, look at what hydraulic disc brake is outfitted on upscale bikes - HAYES. Hayes is not only the leading manufacterer of hydraulic disc brakes but also for motorcycles, dump trucks, and other heavy duty equipment. They are the best brakes hands down.
WINNER: Hayes
Hey a lot of these guys claim to be experts. I'm betting a lot of them are not. I'm not an expert but I�m an avid rider, and I have tried 2 out of the 7 brakes listed here. The two brakes that I have owned and used consistently are the Mountain Cycle Pro Stops, and the Hayes 6'DH brakes. First off the Pro Stop's are one of the meanest looking brakes out there. 8 inch rotor, beefy tubing, they just look burley. The gold finish on the lever looks a little lame, but the system is well made. That being said, the performance of the PS is all right. I'm also not crazy that the system is closed system that needs to be bleed on a regular basis. I used to think the PS was great, until I tried the Hayes. The Hayes rotor looks puny in comparison to that of the Pro Stop. Yet the performance of the Hayes brake is consistently good, the lever has good feel, and overall the system is just better. Once you get the Hayes dialed in they make no noise, unlike the PS. Also when you are hitting the brakes hard the Hayes just bite and hold much better. I'm sold on the Hayes, and I can know see why they are the standard everyone�s measures there stuff against. Go out and get yourself a set of Hayes..You will not be disappointed..
WINNER: Hayes
Hayes all the way
WINNER: Hayes
HAYES - half the reason I moved from my Kona Ti Hardtail to Enduro Pro Specialized. Setup? Guess people forgot how bad first gen vbrakes were for squeal and vibration...power to the disc.
WINNER: Hayes
Avid mech's rules, best brake I ever had
WINNER: Other
I also like shimano deore disc brakes, I have them on my ride.
But cantelever brakes stink man!! Impression: squeeeeaaallll cr@pppppp cr@ppppppp!!!!!!! No offence to anyone that has them but, reconsider buying disc brakes (not rock shox).
WINNER: Other
Hayes rule, rock shox suck!
WINNER: Hayes
avid mechanical- stops great and saves money
WINNER: Other
This is not even a letigimate questionaire with out offering the AVIDS as a choice!
WINNER: Other
hayes suck to set up and are loud and annoying.
avid mech are the way to go, unless you happen to have either alot of time or money
WINNER: Other
I'm happy with my avid mechanical discs. My only complaint is the squeek despite cleaning them frequently with alcohol.
WINNER: Other
Avid mechanical disc brakes.
Cheaper than hydraulic. Easier to work with. No toxic DOT fluid to mess with.
Works great for XC use but if I was doing hardcore downhill I might want hydraulic power.
WINNER: Other
hayes and magura julies are godly as long as hyraulic
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the hayes brakes are realy the best brake all over the world . they are very effective and powerful .
WINNER: Hayes
Disc brakes are the biggest waste of money!!! V- Brakes are much simpler.
WINNER: Other
Yee gads this is an old one. The fact that there's a RS disc in here says something.
Hayes all the way. They are the best.
WINNER: Hayes
actually hayes are for me in second place...XT are the best ones
WINNER: Hayes
tryed formula ...crap tryed magura louise .....not bad too much arsing around to get them right ....had hayes 200mm roters very good .....but the best ?has got to be my new set of hope m4s they are easily the best brakes out there every thing about them the machineing the looks no contest try and wonder why you pissed around with the rest of the rubbish .......
WINNER: Hope
i prefer to use avid disk brakes because of its eficiency and reliable. my friend once used other disk brakes its disk got rust and its braki9ng power is not that good than the avid.
WINNER: Other
i prefer to use avid disk brakes because of its eficiency and reliable. my friend once used other disk brakes its disk got rust and its braki9ng power is not that good than the avid.
WINNER: Other
i prefer to use avid mechanical disc brakes aside from chep it very good in braking and reliability. in the philippines it only cost about 6000 pesos or 120 dollars a pair. it is also lighter than the hayees mach disc brake
WINNER: Other
Hope #1
Hayes #2
WINNER: Hope
The New Hope M4 is the ONE to have.... This brake stops your monster anytime!!!!!
WINNER: Hope
you are the ones who are the ball lickers. When we get to Hollywood we're gonna make you eat our shit, and then shit out that shit, and then make you eat that shit thats made up of our shit that we made you eat!
WINNER: Hayes
the jew for a pennY COMMENT GUY CAN EAT MY DICK
WINNER: Other
Disc brakes suck. I can never get em to stop my premature ejaculation.
WINNER: Other
C'mon, none of the others even come close.............if you can't drop the coin for Hayes hydros, then buy Hayes or Avid mechanos. You NEED discs, I don't care what the speedo stretchpant nut hugger crowd says...
WINNER: Hayes
i search pressure roller on chain.and all of this mechanism.it�s for cannodale sv3000 DH.can anybody help me.thanx
WINNER: Rockshox / Amp
Reliability and Power. For those of you that say avid mechanicals, you haven't ridden other properly set up disk brakes. THey are easy to set up, but they are nearly the wieght of hydraulic and have the power of a good v-brake.
WINNER: Hayes
HAYES NO DOUBT, THEY STOP LIKE A JEW FOR A PENNY
WINNER: Hayes
Hayes are the best
WINNER: Hayes
Hope enduro 4`s rule.I weight 235 pounds and these babies stop me and my 30lb Marin Wolf Ridge with no sweat.Had Magura Julies on my Cannondale Jekyll but they sucked(just like the Jeckyll !!).
WINNER: Hope
Hayes there is a reason most of us Downhiller race with them
WINNER: Hayes
The winner, and one of the most popular, isn't even listed! That would be the Avid mechanical disc. Super easy setup, no brainer maintenance, near-hydro performance. Avid mechs rule.
WINNER: Other
the hayes........
the hope one here sucks..coda crap
WINNER: Hayes
I use the Hays on my Jekyll 3000 , 2002
They perform excellent and i think a disk is a must!!!!
WINNER: Hope
thank you for your confirmation
WINNER: Other
WINNER: Avid Mechanicals
WINNER: Other
New hopes, not the ones you have pictured above. Otherwise Hayes.
WINNER: Hope
I'm disappointed that the Magura Martas are not on this list. They outperform (self adjusting, great grab)and are lighter(348g)than all the rest.
WINNER: Other
HAYES ROCKS...SIMPLE TO MAINTAIN AND CLAMP LIKE PITBULLS..
WINNER: Hayes
I have tried every brake on this list. I am an expert class DH/DS racer. I have been racing for 8 years
Hayes are the best. Their levers blow though!
Codas heat up & stop working.
Hopes heat up and may either lock up -or- stop working
Pro stops work but rattle like maracas
Gustavs work but drag like an anchor.
Formulas aren't supposed to work but might...
Shimanos work but not as good as Hayes.
Rockshox & amps shouldn't even be listed! They use cables!
The strangest thing is that Hayes are put on the slowest motorcycles, But on the fastest bikes. Wierd how that works out.
Buy American! Keep yourself at work!
That ought to narrow things down a bit.
WINNER: Hayes
I like rock shox cause they magura sucks. I dont know about
the others.I guess suck and are the worlds worst but $@$$%%&^
up disc brakes
WINNER: Rockshox / Amp
HAYES SUCKS!! ROCK SHOCK SUXS!FORMULA SUCKS!CODA SUCKS!PRO STOP SUCKS!MAGURA SUCKS! HOPE SUCKS!
Go for AVIDS!!
WINNER: Other
I like one on one! Wheres the beef?
WINNER: Hayes
powerfull!!!
WINNER: Hayes
Hayes are the lightest of the bunch, parts are easy to find, and whose been around longer. I've never even seen half those brakes advertised!
WINNER: Hayes
Either hayes (wich are unbeatable) or Grimeca....nothing beats those two....
WINNER: Hayes
if you haven't tried hope's enduro 4 you'll never know. can't wait to try the M4 this year.
WINNER: Hope
I think Pro-Stop is THE BEST. It stops any time, any where, its been the most amazing disc brake i have ever used! The only thing i find about them is that they need often bleeding if they are not well maintained, and that they are a bit noisy because of the floating disc, but who cares?!?!?!
WINNER: ProStop
This vote is retarded for not including the best workhorse disc brake. The silent hero: AVID.
WINNER: Other
Avid meachanicals are the best. Incredible stopping power, only 180 for a pair, and you don't have to bleed them or do any othe sh-t like that.
WINNER: Avid
WINNER: Other
I havent tried others...but Hayes Hydro rocks...great braking !
I only heard comments about Rock Shox isnt that good.
WINNER: Hayes
WINNER: Avid Mechanical
WINNER: Other
go fore the hayes
WINNER: Hayes
When the HELL DOES ROCK SHOX MAKE DISC BRAKES???!!! I think magura rules!!. CODA is for a bunch of horny gay gorrilas butt monkey faced arsh holes! CODA SUCKS BIG TIME!! YOU CODA!! YOU CAUSED ME A BROKEN LEG, A SPRAINED WRIST AND A CRACKED COLLAR BONE!! FUKING CODA'S GO TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WINNER: Magura
Shimano XT's have fierce power. One finger and that's all ya need. Any of you butt monkeys that whine about disc brakes being too expensive or complicated to maintain or your mommy says you should have V-brakes need to keep thinking those thoughts when you taco a wheel 10 miles awayfrom civilization. Nothing sucks worse than losing your V-brakes when you waste a rim. The disc lets you keep your brakes (try a 1500ft decent with a dented front rim and V's just once) Discs are the wave of the future just like when V's replaced cantilever brakes. Disc Brakes are like CD's, V-brakes are like cassette tapes and cantilevers are like 8 track. The best thing about mountain bikes is the rapid advancement of technology so embrace it, love it or go ride a road bike!
WINNER: Other
hayes is the %&*#@%!! best for the money
WINNER: Hayes
WINNER: Avid Mechanicals. Cheap, easy instalation/adjustability, power of hydraulic.
WINNER:
hope are the dope!!! Hayes come in second. THe rest dont compare. HOPE RULES!
WINNER: Hope
cool
WINNER: Magura
i like hope mines
WINNER: Other
WTF? Shimano XT are not even a choice, and Rock Shox Disc is? Seriously, when was the last time you saw someone riding with Rock Shox hydraulic brakes?
I have used Hayes 6" and 8" and they lock up nicely, but they squeal like a cheerleader in heat when wet or dry! My XT hydraulic brakes have only squeaked on 1 occasion for a few minutes...when I switched to new disc rotors on a new 2nd set of wheels. Now that they are worn in, both sets of wheels work fine without any noise. When it comes to power, my XT brakes work about the same as Hayes but use mineral oil which is much safer to handle than DOT3 that Hayes use. The only thing that sux is that the oil pods of the XT brake levers stick out and might get phukt up in a crash, and the Hayes levers totally hide the oil pods. I haven't crashed hard enough to damage the pods yet, but I know they will crack open before a Hayes setup would.
WINNER: Other
I've got hayes on my bike but i reckon hopes are better
WINNER: Hope
Hayes Hydro's, what other's strive to be
WINNER: Hayes
Hope are the best quality and have best feel. I personally like hayes mechanicals for xc the best.
WINNER: Hope
I would pick hayes probably just because i payed so much for them, but i have heard lots of good thing about hope and magura.
WINNER: Hayes
no question
WINNER: Hope
You guys seriously need to update this page, get rid of old, old, old, old reviews like those ones at the bottom from 1998 and need to change those pictures too i don't recongnize most of them except the magura gustav's which look like the ones my gramma used to use. They've changed since then and its time to change the one on one choices too. What the hell is this hope hydro? geez
WINNER:
to much money
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Well its a personel preference afterall. I have not much experience in disc brakes and my first time contacting with disc brakes were those on my friend's nicolia bike. He uses a STARBIKE disc brakes and all i have to do is to use one finger, press very very lighlty on the levers and that can send me flying out of the bike! GReat stopping power man! I have also tried the Shimano Xt on my friend's bike and they too can stop with one light press from the finger. Both of these disc brakes has levers that are so easy to press. Then i bought a cannondale team volvo downhill bike with CODA's I rode them for two moths on only flat land to run them in . Well the brake levers are soooooooooo hard to press ! They felt like some force is acting against your fingers when you press the levers and they don't brake well at all! The front brakes are so poor that i cannnot even lock up or brake instantly when i am travelling at walking pace on my bike! I used all my might to press the levers and the bike feels like its stopping but still goes on and on. MAybe my disc brakes oil is too think or i need bleeding but i still think that CODA sux from my expeirience and reviews given by other people all over the web.Well HOPE and HAYES almost tie but i do not know which has the best stopping power.Maybe magura rocks too! I still gotta do lots of research before getting a new pair of discs! But right now i think that the Hope disc brakes and hayes and Magura tie.Well, since the winner cannot be chosen, i think that the hopes look the cutest and so the winner goes to HOPE!!!!!!!! PLease correct me or give me some suggestions bout disc brakes as i am new to it! Thanx guys! And some of you guys can you please stop swearing!!!( email me a leejyun@hotmail.com)
WINNER: Hope
first of all, all these brakes are like 5 years old. My favorite type of discs are magura marta's. period
WINNER: Other
THEY ARE THE BEST!!!!
WINNER: Hayes
HOPE-PERIOD
WINNER: Hope
they are the best "better than all the rest"
WINNER: Hope
I am stupid and they are the most expensive so i think they are the best ALL OF YOU
WINNER: Coda
shit
WINNER: Coda
shit
WINNER: Coda
maybe it's time to update this page... just a thought
WINNER: Other
I have hope minis and they absolutely rule. They smoke the competition. The only other brake that can compare to the hopes are hayes but they are a bitch to bleed. They stop just as well but hopes direct mount rules. The rest of the brakes mentioned are pure crap. Buy some hopes!
WINNER: Hope
I have tried a few but only very briefly. In the end, I got some Hope Mini's and absolutely love them.
WINNER: Hope
no one can touch the hope enduro 4s they kick ass and they are a piece of piss to service. maguras are soooo lame.
WINNER: Hope
Hope are the top selling brand in the UK at the mo. They're not cheap, but then again, for superior stopping power there's got to be one catch! They sell only Hyraulic disc brakes and they currently have 2 open systems (for ease) and 2 closed systems (for reliablilty). The open and closed systems both come in either 2 pot or 4 pot.
WINNER: Hope
Hayes
WINNER: Hayes
If you want quality and reliability, there's only one...
WINNER: Rockshox / Amp
There can be only one
WINNER: Hope
I've only tried Hayes and Avid mechanical. Avid's with Full Metal Jackets are half a pound lighter, have better/adjustable modulation, and are far easier to maintain/adjust. No competition - Avid all the way!
WINNER: Other
Hayes, great breaks, service, and they jsut don't give up.
WINNER: Hayes
avid
WINNER: Other
Disc brakes suck (for the weekend warriors)
Disc brakes are great for racers who have there own mechanics to do all the dirty work.
WINNER:
None other than hayes
WINNER: Hayes
As a mechanic and a rider, this one is simple. The Hayes is the easiest to install and work on, and works very well! All others strive to be Hayes.
WINNER: Hayes
The have much more experience. They've been making disc braks for year for motorcycles
WINNER: Magura
Awesome power, great modulation, no drag if setup was made correct. Not too heavy, too.
WINNER: Hayes
Hays are the lightest most durable and Best. Problem solved
WINNER: Hayes
I have hayes disc brakes on my bike and i think there the best,no maintance,and they stop on a dime .I THINK THER BETTER THAN the brakes on my car.
WINNER: Hayes
avid cable pull. no poopoo to mess with, with almost the same power (if not more) as hydraulics.
WINNER: Other
cuz
WINNER: Hayes
Brakes...BRAKES!? Only women and chicken shit tight lycra wearing road geeks need brakes!
I mean look at Fred and Barney! Now they were REAL men! They didn't have brakes, they used their feet and that worked just fine! So why would you spend money on something as stupid as brakes?
If you really want to stop jam a stick into the rear wheel and HANG ON BABY CAUSE YOU ARE GONNA STOP!!
WINNER: Other
Magura Louise. Power and Modulation. Easily maintained. Can be noisy. Origional equiptment on my bike and thrashed since '99. Only other tried disc brake was Coda's so anything would seem fantastic compared to that, but I would buy them again. I find they perform faultlessly.
WINNER: Magura
Hayes are the best no problems with them at all. Magura sucks big time. I can get them to sop rubbing. I hate the floating disk.
WINNER: Hayes
Hope's are the best. More powerful and more durable than the others. All the parts are beautifully machined.
WINNER: Hope
You've got to love Hayes! The price is great, as well as stopping power in looks, plus their made in Brew town, USA---aka Milwaukee, WI.
Two words---KICK ASS!!!
WINNER: Hayes
Hayes are the best value, ample supply of spare parts, most shops know how to work on them, one of the lighter 6 inch xc rotor
WINNER: Hayes
Hope DH4 or new version has reasonable weight, and great modulatable
braking, I have the 205 mm disc on front of my tandem and that will
drag the bike to a stop with ease.
WINNER: Other
With the quality level and performance of a Porsche 911 Ruff, and the power to stop a Russian army tank, think German, buy Magura.
You'll never have to worry about replacement parts, as these brakes never fail.
Magura Gustav M, (the yellow ones)
WINNER: Magura
never had a problem with my Hayes. powerful stopper, sound very cool when you first get them wet
WINNER: Hayes
Hayes for hydralic and avid for cable
WINNER: Hayes
hydraulics all need liquid so the calipers must be made the same. this probably means they are made in the same factory but just with a different brand name on it. and how come they are so expensive? ive got Hayes discs and they are powerfull,but i have used hopes which are more expensive and they are just as good
WINNER:
Has to be Hayes, best performing downhill hydraulic disc ever
WINNER: Hayes
i think they all perform TONS better then my formula MD1 mech disc.!
WINNER: Rockshox / Amp
What about the Shimano, i am a hayes man otherwise
WINNER: Hayes
I ride downhill, loads of trials and shit loads of jump. i have a hope c2 on my jump and trials and its excellent, but its not powerful enough for serious downhill. maguras are my 2nd best make.
WINNER: Hope
I ride downhill, loads of trials and shit loads of jump. i have a hope c2 on my jump and trials and its excellent, but its not powerful enough for serious downhill. maguras are my 2nd best make.
WINNER: Hope
This is my soap box. CODA'S SUCK!!!! I have owned all the different models and generations of each and they never performed as promised. Yes, I do know all the tricks to set them up right and to stop the squeeling but they only work for the first few minutes of a ride. Cannondale is an excellent company and switched my last set of Experts out for a pair a Maguras. So far they are the nicest brakes I have ever ridden. I have ridden each brake listed above except for the Pro Stop and the Maguras Have the best modulation, stopping power, and ergonomics. Only wish is that they were lighter. (I don't ride the GustavM but the Louise XC).
WINNER: Magura
Get the freaking Shimano XT's they are the best and work the best. NO problems in 2 years of riding them... ALso if u DH buy a 8 inch upgrade form www.grcomponents.com
custom adapters and custom rotors for front and rear for a total of 140 and all hardware is included! Sully is a great guy.
WINNER: Other
Hopes rule, have nice feel and pro lever looks sweet.
WINNER: Hope
hays all the way baby
WINNER: Hayes
OMG, Gregg! update this! This is so out of date. RockShox - HA! What no Shimano, avid, etc!
WINNER: Other
Have hayes and Hope DH4, are exelent, but Hope are more robust and have more power
WINNER: Other
Hayes all the way. Hope is ok except it still doesn't have quite as mch power and it has pumping problems.
WINNER: Hayes
the selections arent really all that great. they all suck **s. but i would choose the hayes
WINNER: Hayes
Shimao XT's are great and light, have nice levers
Magura Louise's are Nice but not so powerful, good warranty.
Formula's are light and grabby, nice design.
Hayes, because of power and feel.
WINNER: Hayes
mad of poor performance cantis (XT sa well as Avid) I changed to an Avid mechanical front (because impossible to get front disk with right lever). Now this cheap thing works.
And all the other disk guys I HAVE SEEN (pls note, this is no offend) got squealing disks (Luise, XT, Magura). No Hope�s around here
WINNER: Other
Gotta vote Hayes!Been DH racing on them since '98 w/6" rotors,and now w/8" rotors.Both versions deliver badass stopping power!They also require little maintenance(bleeding and cleaning every now and then),no drag(if set up correctly)and they're not all that heavy(like I really care anyway--my TMX already weighs about 50 lbs,what's a few extra grams?)And parts can be found everywhere,unlike Hope,Formula,or Magura.
HAYES RULES!!!
WINNER: Hayes
we brakes pads for the after market we do $5million a year
WINNER: Other
Can't argue with flawless performance
WINNER: Hayes
All the others are good, until you try hope
WINNER: Hope
For power, magura. For modulation and most comfortable lever, hope. For value, ease of getting replacement parts and most compact lever, hayes. For the steepest dh courses, go magura, for a sponsored and or wealthy dh racer, get hope, but for the average freerider/dh privateer(me) go hayes.
WINNER: Hayes
Don�t Get the formula brakes, they suck
WINNER: Hayes
HAYES, IF YOU DON'T HAVE 'EM, GET 'EM!!!!!!
WINNER: Hayes
hayes,hayes,hayes
they rule
WINNER: Hayes
im gay and hayes is theway.
WINNER: Hayes
im gay and hayes is theway.
WINNER: Hayes
theres some boy who rewcons hes not rich down in the rest of the group bellow. he can only afford a $500(�250 give or take)bike when i can only afford a $300(�150 g or t) and my v brakes work so if theres
eney kid out there who thinks v braeks a sh** go see the docter
WINNER: Other
I'm new to Magura's Julie with only 400kms 50/50 dirt/street on my 2001 Avanti Comp something-or-other. Only ever used covential brakes b4. Got alittle drag in the first 200kms, good feel, stops on a frog's ---, in power dust it squeals like a 13yr old. Can't fault it though, my 'taxi' 2-step now comes with blackies from both ends.
WINNER: Other
Coda!!!!!!!
WINNER: Coda
SOOO GOOOD!
WINNER: Hayes
Hayes are the best. They are drag free and super strong. 4 pistons per caliper rock!
WINNER: Hayes
I work at a shop and have tried a helluva lotta crap. I'm a freerider, very hard on my sh*t. I've worked these Hayes hydro brakes HARD and they perform. Tried v's, ceramic v's, avid mechanicals, coda simply sucks, blah blah... Hayes grabs instantly, modulation is incredible, power is insane, problems are none. No f'n contest. Hayes all the way.
WINNER: Hayes
My 2001 Specialized Rockhopper came with Magura's Julie brakes. While she ranks at the bottom of the Magura line up, her performance is nothing less than superb; they stop on a dime, and have held up beautifully over the course of some tough riding. However, since I have not tried the other brands--and only have conventional brakes to compare them to--I cannot conclude which make is the absolute best. Yet, if you're looking for a excellent system, Ms. Julie fits the bill, and her price is right. Thanks!
WINNER:
Ammmm...
Hello?
What the hell are those other shitty options doing there?
What the hell are you ppl thinking?
Don't you know that there's only one REAL disc brake on the market
food for thought
HAYES slows you down better and faster than some of you ppl who get fake orgasms
WINNER: Hayes
Hayes all the way
WINNER: Hayes
My Hayes have treated me well. The only problem I have had with them is that they went mushy really fast.
WINNER: Hayes
for the HAyes: They are definately worth the money and the 8" rotors stop on a dime, just always made sure their clean and don't spray anthing on them. Keep them running good with new pads they will be super strong and work forever
WINNER: Hayes
I haven't ride on Hope's, but I have front luisa with jagwire break pads... It's great combination...
WINNER: Other
I reckon its between the magura, the rockshox and the hope but lets face it for $300 they should be good. The formula however is the bollocks because its much cheaper yets performance is unmatched
WINNER: Formula
Had Codas for a day...they went back mighty fast (as did the Crackenfail). Got Hayes (on a Cove Stiffee FR) and they rock. Super easy to install and bleed (if you can't install and set these up, you don't deserve them!!!). Amazing tech support. Stops my 230 lbs on a dime.
WINNER: Hayes
Had Codas for a day...they went back mighty fast (as did the Crackenfail). Got Hayes (on a Cove Stiffee FR) and they rock. Super easy to install and bleed (if you can't install and set these up, you don't deserve them!!!). Amazing tech support. Stops my 230 lbs on a dime.
WINNER: Hayes
These brakes are great exspeacially when you have the 8 inch rotors on complete stopping power baby. Great Modulation too.
WINNER: Hayes
Hopes are the business - superb modulation, easy to adjust (ok not a 2 minutes on-the-trail adjustment), lovely looking kit and stopping power to die for (well you'd die if you didn't stop!)
WINNER: Hope
I ride a Cannondale and have CODA discs and they work great. All weather and easy to adjust.
WINNER: Coda
Try a bike equipped with Hayes hydro + 8" rotors--now THERE'S stopping power,eh!There's nothing better--though they do squeal a bit..
WINNER: Hayes
Hayes - no question. Power, feel, and duribility.
WINNER: Hayes
wAIT 2 YEARS FOR THE TECHNOLGY TO BE REFINED HIGH MANANENCE AND VERY EASY TO CONTANINATE PADS AND DISKS EASY TO BEND DISKS PARTS ARE COMMONLY BACK ORDERED FOR MONTHS
WINNER: Magura
Avid Mechs 2 for the price of one Hydro and they work too.
WINNER: Other
How can you argue with the manufacturer of the Harleys Brakes.
WINNER: Hayes
Cross Country racers have no need for them!
WINNER: Other
Hayes hands down. Who says they're hard to work on? They're a piece of cake, and the tech support is really good. But what really matters is how they stop and nothing does it better than Hayes and nothing does it consistently longer than Hayes
WINNER: Hayes
I just recently decided to equip the front on my hardtail XC rig with a Formula B4 disc brake system. I kept my Magura HS33 rear brake because my frame is not "disc brake ready" and I'm sceptic about using silly adapters.
I chose this system for it's Light weight (only 335 grams), the price I had to pay (187 euro), it's cool looks and it very well matches my Z2 Atom Race.
So far, no complaints: great stopping power. At this very moment I can't judge it's durability, nor can I compare with other disc brake systems (one test ride on a Magura Clara equiped bike).
The Formula B4 is designed as a XC disc brake system and that probably is what it does best. I can imagine that the B4 lacks stopping power for extreme downhill. So what, I'm not into that stuff.
Any of the disc brake in this "One on One" forum will have their pros and cons.
Definite winner are the hydraulic disc&rim brake systems above the mechanical (wire) systems.
WINNER: Other
HAYES suck to work on..BLEED them & find out.....HOPE rules..but use v-brakes now.....
WINNER: Hope
Hauls my Santana "Extreme" down to a stop in a hurry! When your blasting the trails and your wife screams "Slow Down!" in your ear, you'd better have the power to answer that command! One should always try to accommodate ones' riding partner!
WINNER: Formula
hope-shimano xt
WINNER:
Magura Gustav, nothing else. Hayes are awesome, but you can't beat a name that sounds arabian.... and Rock Shox make brakes? What's the world coming too?
WINNER: Magura
I like the Hope Hydros brakes the best. They look super cool and all my friends are jealous because my bike looks sweeeet!!! I checked out the Maguras but they don't look cool. For my money the Hopes are definitely the coolest!
WINNER: Hope
Hayes, you want to stop? I used formula and they worked fine but the customer service sucked .........
WINNER: Hayes
After useing and seeing about every brake on the market, I would have to say Hayes is the better braking system!!!
WINNER: Hayes
I'll take some XTR or Avid V-brakes over disc anyday.
WINNER: Other
I just purchased the Hayes and have used them 4 times.They do stop on a dime! You should get someone with some experience with Hayes to set them up for you.
WINNER: Hayes
My choice was other, the Avid Mechanical Disc. Try to be in the middle of nowhere, and go to BillyBob's minimart & bike shop for a replacement hydro hose.
WINNER: Other
hayes are crap they have no feel thankfully the brits have saved the day (hope)
WINNER: Hope
Disc are overrated and most of the time not even needed. Buy rims brakes and save your $$ for repairs...
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i pigs
WINNER: ProStop
i say that the 8 inch XT brakes are the best but out if these the hope will win because it looks good.
WINNER: Other
hayes...duh
WINNER: Hayes
HAYES RULES HAYES ALL THE WAY
WINNER: Hayes
HAYES WORKS IN ALL KINDS OF WEATHER, PLUS THIER STYLISH, AND CAN STOP ON A DIME(I TRIED IT. THE SENSITIVITY IS GREAT AND THE LIGHT WEIGHT MAKES THE FRONT EVEN BETTER
WINNER: Hayes
I am a beginner!!
I am looking to get a barracuda oblivion, which includes QUAD QMD-3 disc brakes, front and rear....
Any of you friendly people got an opinion on the brakes and or bike?
Cheers!!!
WINNER: Other
Please comment on the "Quad QMD-3" mechanical Front & Rear CAm Disc Brake System.They copided Hayes to a "T" and are less than 1/2 the price. They are mfg'd. by Quad Cor[poration LTD., Surrey, England.I haven't found any better and the price is right.
EEO 11 from San Francisco
WINNER: Other
lightest brakes available, good enough for 60 km/hour to 0 in 1 second.
WINNER: Formula
Hope all the way. Tha best breaks out there. Fo' shizzle.
WINNER: Hope
i am a competitive DS and XC rider and i can say that working at a shop i have ridden them all and hands down the hayes takes it!! it by far not only has the best feel, but also from a mantinence standpoint, and belive me i have overhauled almost every system there, hayes is by far the easyest to get along with. all of the other systems work, but hayes is one of the only that truely work well
WINNER: Hayes
hayes all the way
stop great and work in all types of weather
WINNER: Hayes
Okay,let's take it by the numbers:
Coda:They REALLY suck.Non-standard hubs,no stopping power at all.Feel worse then old Acera cantis!Screw you,Cannondale.
Formula Hydro:Total bitch to adjust+install,but they work pretty good if everything is perfect(dry conditions,wussy XC).Otherwise,there are better discs out there.
Hayes Hydro:KICKASS stopping power,but hard to adjust and little modulation.Shimming the pads is a pain in the ass.Expensive too.Still a good system though,especially if DH/Freeride is your style.
Hayes Mech:Great for a cable brake-probably one of the best out there,and FAR cheaper than the hydro.
Hope Hydro:AWESOME--probably best out of this bunch.Less power than the Hayes,but great modulation and SWEEEET adjustment!They put a lot of work and design into these puppies,and it shows.Get the Open systems,though--the Closed ones tend to overheat.
Magura Hydro:Can't comment on the Gustav.Heard that they are good.But I have tested the Julies--pretty good,and SHIT CHEAP for hydraulic.
Prostop:No comment,haven't tested them.
Rock Shox/Amp:ANYTHING with the AMP name on them is SHIT,period.No wonder they went out of business.Non-standard hubs,shitty power+modulation.
Shimano/Grimeca Hydro:Pass on the Deore cable disc--not enough power.Don't piss around--get either the Grimeca System 8 or XT Disc(they are both the same,only minor differences).Both comparable to Hopes and Hayes on power+modulation,but cheaper than either.Pretty damn good considering Shimano's new to this market.
Avid Mech:EVERY bit as good as the Hayes mech.,but a little cheaper and is less complex.
I recommend the Shimano/Grimecas,Hope(Open),and Hayes.The new mechanicals(Avid,Hayes)are pretty good,and if you don't DH,they should be considered.AVOID FORMULA AND CODA!!!They eat shit!
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Hayes are one of the lightest - if not the lightest, have excellent stopping power and just plain ROCK.
HAYES ALL THE WAY!
WINNER: Hayes
Magura has the best on