Submitted by
walljumper
a Downhiller
from mn, usa Date Reviewed: September 13, 2008
Favorite Trail:
p-drop
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$25.00
Strengths:
rims are strong when trued right! mine are setup w/ 20mm hubs and handle 6+ ft drops / harsh launches into rock piles just fine - rims still straight
Weaknesses:
none so far
Similar Products Used:
mavic 325, sun xc lite, bontrager xc
Bike Setup:
Haro Xeon VL160S Full-Suspension
Bottom Line:
These are good, strong rims for the price. Just keep'm trued right and they'll take a beating!
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Submitted by
sidewindersnake
a Downhiller
from uk Date Reviewed: July 29, 2008
Favorite Trail:
south wales tough trails
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
200
Strengths:
only had this rim for around a week now they cost so much cos i had sum propa fat spokes put on with a decent shimanio hubs and a aint i. Light rider i buckle every wheel with in a few days normally but i have to say there are still goin strong and lined true alkways
Weaknesses:
no weekness for what i use then for wouldent recomend these for free style or big drops
Bottom Line:
great rim with big eat spokes and a decent hub i say buy them now while there so cheap
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Submitted by
rickyrat
a Weekend Warrior
from ashland,oregon,U.S. Date Reviewed: June 10, 2008
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$30.00
Purchased At:
marty's cycle and mo
Strengths:
I have punished this rim!! I am 225lbs and ride hard, I built the wheel myself and have had no trouble with it at all, granted I dont do more than about 4 or 5 foot drops and this is an xc rim. maybe you guys that are haveing trouble with them should have somebody else build them for you or learn to use a little finesse when you are rideing
Weaknesses:
the only thing I dont like is the stickers on the side rub when I true it and the seam hits as well, I like to true to as near perfect as possible and use a dial indicator
Similar Products Used:
mavic, mavic and mavic
Bike Setup:
2000 GT XCR 4000, marzocchi mz supercomp, fox vanillia, deore lx hubs deraillures and shifters avid juicy seven 160's
Bottom Line:
I think they are a pretty darn good rim for the money, as for those downhillers and big air dogs that are bending them, you might want to try something other than an xc rim !!
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Submitted by
Paul W
a Cross Country Rider
from il Date Reviewed: December 8, 2007
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Purchased At:
came with bike
Strengths:
Strong enought for my riding. weight is in check
Weaknesses:
none
Bike Setup:
Ironhorse full suspension
Bottom Line:
I have been riding on these wheels for about two years and have never had any problems. I'm about 185lbs. so I'm not lite but not I'm not "Frank The Tank" either. I don't ride huge drops but that is not what these are for. If your looking for a cheap trail wheel that is some what lite buy it. They do seem a little narrow. I run a 2.1 and it is fine but i'm a not sure about running anything much wider on them. And like anything else inspect it once in a while and if the spokes are lose get it taken care of.
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Submitted by
tyrone
a Downhiller
from dorset Date Reviewed: November 18, 2007
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
came with bike
Strengths:
Strongish? stiff and looks ok
Weaknesses:
dont no yet haven't ridden them enough sure i will find out soon
Bike Setup:
Felt Straight Shot all stock
Bottom Line:
Great rims so far i have only been riding them for a short time and they seen to cope with the rough stuff i havnt yet to try them on jumps but i will get round to it so far a fairly good rim
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Submitted by
Hui Chuen Chuang
a Downhiller
from Penang, Malaysia Date Reviewed: July 2, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Youth Park No.3, Mt. Erskine, Penang Hill
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Purchased At:
Came with bike.
Strengths:
This rims is super strong despite the fact that it is a XC rim. I've used it on my Trek Fuel and abused it and now I changed to Stinky Primo and still using it. It to 5 foot drops to flat 4 times without any problem. Fell many times, knocked by car a few times and still the same. Was bent but can be bent back and no strength is lost.
Weaknesses:
A bit too narrow for me to fit wider tires.
Bike Setup:
2003 Kona Stinky Primo frame, Rock Shox Domain 318 fork, Truvativ Holzfeller cranks, Truvaitv Shiftguide chainguide, Shimano 105 RD, Fox Vanilla R rear shock and these rims.
Bottom Line:
Great
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Submitted by
Peter
a Cross Country Rider
from Sarasota, Florida Date Reviewed: June 4, 2007
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Value for money, reasonably good construction.
Weaknesses:
Built by machines
Bike Setup:
Full suspension
Bottom Line:
After the first few days the wheels wobbled a bit. I decided to check spoke tension. What a nightmare! Recordings all over the map. Re-tensioned the spokes and brought the Front Wheel to an average 93 kgf and the Rear Wheel to an average 89 kgf. Recommended average for these rims was advised by WTB at between 90-100 kgf. Strong wheels now - True - and seem to be holding after 2 months. Weigh in at 220 and all XC riding and drops no more than 12-18 inches max for an old timer... Three Chilis for a sub-standard job on spoke tension...
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Submitted by
desski
a Cross Country Rider
from grimsby,england Date Reviewed: June 4, 2007
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$40.00
Purchased At:
lbs
Strengths:
none
Weaknesses:
The whole rim in general is pretty poor,used for light commuting, riding about 150 miles a week no drop offs involved these rims might might as well be made out of lead how any bike company can spec these as oem is beyond me, i must have had these trued about 4 or 5 times. WTB should stick to seats and tyres.
Similar Products Used:
mavic's(pure class),sun rims,shimano bog standard stuff
Bike Setup:
kona explosif singlespeed,fsa cranks,marzocchi exr forks,avid sd7 v's,easton finishing kit,wtb race v
Bottom Line:
buy yourself some mavics!
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Submitted by
jeff
a
from mound Date Reviewed: April 15, 2007
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Bottom Line:
Why does everyone say these are weak? The dual duty rating is way higher than this rims and the dualduty looses strength do to the fact that its structural architecture has to accommodate the use of rim brakes. These rims should be much strong and more durable than those. I think the problem here is we got a bunch of noobs riding their for their first time and cried to their momma when they found out they didn't know that these are XC rims and not free riding rims. The other thing that needs to be looked at is that some of these rims may have been machine made while others hand made and that plays an important difference in all rims! CYA NOOBS!! I DEMOed THESE BAD BOYS OFF OF A 10 FT DROP ON A HARDTAIL! I'M 210 LBS, APPARENTLY I KNOW HOW TO SOAK UP A LANDING WITH MY LEGS!!
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Submitted by
Zack
a Downhiller
from Santa Barbara Date Reviewed: April 7, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Cold Springs
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
Supergo
Strengths:
uhm its QR haha
Weaknesses:
everything i bent this rim within the first month of riding and that was just around town and at a light fr/am/xc course
Similar Products Used:
other rims
Bike Setup:
came on my stock Ironhorse Warrior SE i upgraded to SunRingle Singletracks thoe
Bottom Line:
THEY STINK!! do not buy thesse there a waste of money and time using, ironhorse seriously does need to rethink using them on there bikes
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Submitted by
Jim Med
a Weekend Warrior
from Ocala, Fl. Marion Date Reviewed: February 3, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Santos
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Purchased At:
Bobs bike shop Longv
Strengths:
Cheap
Weaknesses:
Easily bent
Similar Products Used:
None
Bike Setup:
DS-2 Giant full susp.
Bottom Line:
I have finally found time to ride after owning this bike for 5 years. Originally I would ride urban, now I am really enjoying the trails of North Florida. After about ten moderate rides, jumping anywhere from 1'-6' I have seriously bent my front rim meeting a standing 12" tree at about 15mph. Needless to say the rim looks like that mungaloid from the goonies. These rims servived quite a bit of abuse until then, and even after I hit the tree I was able to hobble out on the bike 3 miles. I weigh 180 lbs, and really enjoy doing drops etc on this bike and they held up.... I don't think they ever stayed true, but I am sure I have got my moneys worth out of them. OK if you are a beginner, but for any one who is going to get serious, spend a little money tight wad!
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Submitted by
trevor
a Weekend Warrior
from windsor locks ct Date Reviewed: January 13, 2007
Favorite Trail:
avon mtn
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$120.00
Purchased At:
bloomfield bicycle shop
Strengths:
really strong i wiegh 288 lbs and i ride hardtail i bout the speedisc for the rear and am glad i did like i said im almost three hundred pounds and ive cased dirt jumps, riden down stairs you name it ive done it and its pulled through
Weaknesses:
keep a spoke wrench on you it likes to losen spokes
Similar Products Used:
none i was a replacement to stock
Bike Setup:
iron horse warrior '05
Bottom Line:
great rim for big people like myself who know how to ride hard
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Submitted by
Justin
a Cross Country Rider
from RSM Date Reviewed: August 15, 2006
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
came on bike
Strengths:
Look decent..
Weaknesses:
WEAK...Fifth ride I took a pretty good header on local singletrack, nothing exceptionally extreme, whole bike is fine, front rim is bent into hilarious taco shape. This rim has been pronounced un-truable(?) by two bike shops. You would expect more that five rides from oem equipment on a $2000 bike.
Similar Products Used:
A lot of Mavics without any real problems.
Bike Setup:
Stock 2006 GT I-Drive 5 2.0
Bottom Line:
These rims are truly a joke, I have only owned this bike for five days and I am already getting the hubs (DT Swiss, nice) built up with Rhynolites.
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Submitted by
James Jordan
a Weekend Warrior
from Lee County FL Date Reviewed: July 16, 2006
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Fill the space inside your tires.
Weaknesses:
Appear to have been made from recycled pie-plates. These rims bent after I sneezed on the trail.
Similar Products Used:
Sun-Ringle; Araya.
Bike Setup:
IronHorse Warrior HT- FSA Carbon/e.thirteen
Bottom Line:
Upgrade.
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Submitted by
Brook Townsend
a Weekend Warrior
from Porter's Lake, Nova Scotia, Canada Date Reviewed: June 29, 2006
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
Sport Check
Strengths:
Light and...black
Weaknesses:
soft as butter, bend side-to-side soo easy
Similar Products Used:
sun singletrack
Bike Setup:
'05 IH warrior sport w/ single tracks
Bottom Line:
these rims are fine for xc (not anything hardcore though). any jumps or dropd 3'+ a would recommend something else.
the rims bend when you land semi-sideways. They curve like a "("
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Submitted by
Matt
a Racer
from Texas Date Reviewed: March 7, 2006
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Purchased At:
came with bike
Weaknesses:
slow, hubs
Bottom Line:
Semi durable, and great for a weekend warrior to take out and abuse. Does not even compare to any performance rim/hub set that I have used. In my professional opinion the hubs are the weak link in this set up. The hubs are durable and can be abused; however they are not fast, and after 7 miles when your legs are burning, it is simply because of the hubs and not your tires.
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Submitted by
Daniel
a Weekend Warrior
from Toronto, Ontario, Canada Date Reviewed: October 15, 2005
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
came with bike
Strengths:
um...... hmm....... NADA
Weaknesses:
This rim is extremly weak, i cracked it last week doing a three foot drop. .:WARNING:. Don't buy/use this rim if you do drops or jumps, and type of down hill, or if you do urban; so in other words this rim is really on good for nothing... unless you like go for a light, easy xc ride in the park once in while.... but i wouldn't suggest it
Similar Products Used:
a coupole other rims
Bottom Line:
USE ONLY AS LAST RESORT.... actually... don't even use it then.
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Submitted by
Clout
a Cross Country Rider
from Anchorage, AK, US Date Reviewed: October 6, 2005
Favorite Trail:
Resrection Pass
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Purchased At:
REI
Strengths:
It is a piece of ………….
Weaknesses:
How could a company put such a piece of crap out on the market. I for sure would not want to put my name or associate my self with such a cheaply built wheel. One day of moderate single track and these bent to the shape of the giblets I was going over. Rim is completely dead if it could be trued; TEACH ME YOUR MAGIC.
Similar Products Used:
Mavic 221 (solid), Ritchey
Bike Setup:
Novara Buzz King B
Bottom Line:
I just got the bike today and a little stoked about a dual suspension bike. With 120mm up front and 190mm travel in the back. Right after leaving the store I got dropped off at flattop parking lot (not yet excited about climbing a whole bunch on a rear suspension bike). So it’s a moderate downhill and while taking it easy going down some Key single track, hit some roots and err, errrt , errt, it was tweaked and rubbing. Really bummed me out, I was just becoming the Buzz kings biggest fan. If you need a rim for a wheelchair, this would make a rally chair.
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Submitted by
em97ty none
a Weekend Warrior
from Kuala Lumpur,Malaysia Date Reviewed: October 3, 2005
Favorite Trail:
urban
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Maybe lightwieght and cheap
Weaknesses:
SUPERB WEAK RIM!
Bike Setup:
Trek 6500 '05
Bottom Line:
the rim sucks.superb weak.dont buy it !
check out the pic,it bends 1st pic: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/em97y/WTBSD2.jpg 2nd pic: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/em97y/WTBSD.jpg
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Submitted by
George
a Weekend Warrior
from Canada Date Reviewed: August 22, 2005
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Purchased At:
came on bike
Strengths:
can take a beating these rims have been bashed in earlier review but i have personally see them do drops up to 5' and not bend or flat spot even a little
Weaknesses:
not strong enough for downhill
Similar Products Used:
mavic 321, Arrow FRX
Bike Setup:
fire eye frame, single speed, pike sl
Bottom Line:
These rims will definanlty serve their purpose at a good price
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Submitted by
Aaron W
a Cross Country Rider
from Canada Date Reviewed: June 20, 2005
Favorite Trail:
Brookvale
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
came with bike
Strengths:
can take the abuse from XC riding if you at least try to avoid some of the larger rocks and roots, they look cool also.
Weaknesses:
bend just a little after hard rides, but nothing to cry about.
Similar Products Used:
these are the only "real" mtn bike rims i've ever used
Bike Setup:
iron horse warrior sport, hayes HI2
Bottom Line:
They're not made out of kryptonite so don't take them over giant jumps. good rims for XC riding but not the best for racing.
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Submitted by
ken
a Cross Country Rider
from odenton, md Date Reviewed: June 7, 2005
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
supergo.com
Strengths:
NONE
Weaknesses:
extremely weak rims
Bike Setup:
IronHorse Sinister Comp
Bottom Line:
These wheels come stock on IronHorse's Sinister Comp. Rode the bike less than 3 hours when a drop of no more than 10 inches bent the front rim. IronHorse needs to rethink using these wheels because they suck. Now it looks like IronHorse doesn't want to stand by their product however I am still working on it. If you buy this bike be prepared to buy a new wheelset if you plan on doing anything besides riding around the nieghborhood.
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Submitted by
Francois Dubé
a Cross Country Rider
from Beaumont, Alberta Canada Date Reviewed: May 4, 2005
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
good all round trail rim
Weaknesses:
zero landing capability
Bike Setup:
iron house warrier
Bottom Line:
i've had my bike for 4 days and i've ridden it for a max of 6 hours. my rear rim completly let out under me after a small 6 inch drop on a pack year ledge. im 17 and i weigh 170 pounds and i was told these rims were good. it just proves that these cant take any abuse what so ever. i hope other people get better uses out of their rims them i did.
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Submitted by
Scott
a Weekend Warrior
from MN Date Reviewed: February 20, 2005
Favorite Trail:
The most technical ones.
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Purchased At:
Came on bike.
Strengths:
Lite. Strong. I haven't kill them yet.
Weaknesses:
Like others mentioned, large tires can be a hassle. They might be pinching my tubes?, or I'm not using enough air for my weight.
Similar Products Used:
Mavic
Bike Setup:
Aluminum hard tail, single speed.
Bottom Line:
They work just fine. They've handled everything I've thrown at them, and I've landed some really F#@ked up landings, and I've used some really rough log piles as ramps with no problems at all. I weight 220 and am not always the most graceful rider. Minor truing (once) and they were straight and tight (loose spokes) again. I've had no real problems with them at all.
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Submitted by
Alexander Holman
a Downhiller
from Stockton, CA Date Reviewed: February 3, 2005
Favorite Trail:
Skyline,
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Purchased At:
Performance Bike, Stockton, CA
Strengths:
Well if it has to have any I guess it would be the low price and weight, but not much else.
Weaknesses:
Small profile, 24mm, hard to get wide tires on. Wasn't tuned properly from the factory. Front was WAY out, about 10-12mm, rear was slightly better, but dishout was symmetrical!
Similar Products Used:
Performance LOCO
Bike Setup:
2004 Iron Horse Sinister Comp, Judy SL, Fox Vanilla R, Shimano XT f&r derailleur, Carbon 1" rise bars w/ carbon straight bar ends, WTB MotoRaptor 2.4", Hayes HMX-2.
Bottom Line:
These rims are very light for anything that ever sees dirt. I keep them as my general use wheelset like when I ride to work or to the store. I am on the heavy side (195) so I wouldn't even think about taking these on anything other than just an unpaved road. I was on a short steep run(down the side of a tall levee) when I split a sidewall and bent the rim on a squirel hole! Not even any rocks or roots just soft dirt and mud! Light rims for even lighter riders. These rims should never have knobby tires on them, keep 'em out of the dirt.
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Submitted by
kevin
a Racer
from brooklyn, ny Date Reviewed: January 30, 2004
Favorite Trail:
XC, FR
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$100.00
Purchased At:
web
Strengths:
extremely light. extremely reliable and no stupid stickers all over the rim.
Weaknesses:
NONE!
Similar Products Used:
Alex td17, Mavic x3.1,
Bike Setup:
FUll 2003 line of SHIMANO DEORE XT, and HOPE MINI HYRAULIC DISK BRAKES. TRUVATIV CRANK,
Bottom Line:
These Are great rims. I TOOK THEM OUT FREE RIDING AND THESE ARE XC RIMS. well im a good rider so i dont know. these rims took a 10 foot drop pretty well. i have this for almost a week and about 40 hours on them ( i ride all day). these things are great. they have a firm feel when steering and is extremely easy to put on and off those kevlar tires!
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Submitted by
Aaron Sublett
a Weekend Warrior
from Tucson, AZ. USA Date Reviewed: September 14, 2003
Favorite Trail:
La Milagrosa
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$35.00
Purchased At:
Ebay
Strengths:
Light weight, strong, and inexpensive.
Weaknesses:
Kinda narrow for big tires.
Similar Products Used:
Mavic 517
Bike Setup:
GT STS-1000, Motoraptor 2.4 tires, Avid discs.
Bottom Line:
After a year of abuse, they are still round and no dents. I'm a heavy rider (200 lbs) and they have held up with no problems at all. Tires are easy to remove also.
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Submitted by
Doug Brummett
a Weekend Warrior
from Santa Cruz, CA Date Reviewed: July 23, 2003
Favorite Trail:
UCSC trails
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Look cool in black, eyeletted, cheap
Weaknesses:
Not able to take a beating, stickers on the side make wheel maintenance a bit of a pain, poorly constructed rim joint
Similar Products Used:
Bontrager & mavic xc rims
Bike Setup:
SC Chameleon tough xc build
Bottom Line:
I handbuilt these rims onto a good set of hubs with 2.0mm spokes and brass nipples. As a mechanic and experienced wheel builder my wheels typically last years barring unforseen roots and crashes. Well, after about 10 rides I noticed the rear wheel doing the boogie so I stopped by the shop to true it up. Much to my dissapointment the rim had bent over in a section. Unrepairable. So I am riding on a bent rim and am a little pissed at the quality of these.
Note to readers: I weigh 200+lb. I ride hard. I jump my bike and do light downhill on it as well. Majority of my rides are enduro style with xc and dh mix. I typically squeeze in about 6-10hrs a week. Even at wholesale I wouldn't consider that I got my moneys worth from these rims.
Bottom line: Cheap rims, but you get what you pay for. Might be okay for full xc duty or a light guy. If you are a 200lb bruiser then stay clear of these even for your xc ride. If black rims with WTB logos on them do it for you then go for it.
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Submitted by
Freerider
a Weekend Warrior
from Kent, Washington USA Date Reviewed: June 24, 2003
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
came on bike
Strengths:
Good rim for light XC and light trail riding.
Weaknesses:
The first time i went riding the rim bent i got it fixed then it got bent again. I only weight 140lbs. The rim is not real wide only 24mm.