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Submitted by
Jay Hemphill
a Racer
from Silver City New Mexico
Date Reviewed: December 25, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | CD North | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$500.00 | | Purchased At: | Bike America | | Strengths: | It's stiff on the side to side play, and it track good. | | Weaknesses: | There's a little fore aft play in the fork legs. Not very Plush | | Similar Products Used: | M Super Fly | | Bike Setup: | Moots Rigor Mootis | | Bottom Line: | The first month I had this fork I thought I had washed my money down the drain! The fork had a tiny amount fore aft play, it felt like my head set was a little loose. But I have been pounding it for six months and it hasnt gotten any worse, I dont notice it on the trail. The air cartridges are working fine, I dont know what people are coplaining about. They do lose a little air over a weeks peroid but nothing bad. I weigh 190 and the fork is very stiff, I excels in the technical stuff because it steers so good. It's not a plush fork, but it has won my confidence, and it's great XC fork.
J | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John Langaker
a Racer
from Tucson,AZ,USA
Date Reviewed: December 3, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Deadman's | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Stiff | | Weaknesses: | You name it!!! (not to mention poor customer service) | | Bike Setup: | Specialized M-4 "S"works fsr | | Bottom Line: | You will be spending more time repairing this fork than on the trail. The air cartridges don't hold squat. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
BROCK BECKER
a Cross Country Rider
from FREMONT
Date Reviewed: November 13, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | LIKE I'D TELL | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$519.00 | | Purchased At: | universal cycles | | Strengths: | stiffness,adjustabilty,plushness,simple to maintain! | | Weaknesses: | no pump! | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | 97 SANTA CRUZ TAZMON,WHITE BROS UL72.
CHRIS KING HUBS ,BONTRAGER MUSTANG CERAMIC RIMS,RACE FACE CRANKS&HEAD SET, ANSWER PRO TAPER BARS,RISSE SHOCK,RINGLE POST&STEM,WTB SADDLE&GRIPS,GRIP SHIFT 9.0SL SHIFTERS&DERAILLURS,AVID ARCH SUPREME BRAKES&LEVERS!!!!!!! YES!!!
| | Bottom Line: | I'VE HAD A FEW PAIRS OF ROCK SHOX AND THEY FLAT OUT SUCKED . I NEVER IMAGINED THAT A FORK COULD WORK SO SWEET.
ALL OTHER FORKS I'VE TRIED WERE LIKE WET NOODLES. THE WB IS SOLID AS A ROCK. WHEN THE BARS ARE TURNED THE BIKE REACTS,NO DEFLECTION,WOBBLING. IT'S JUST POINT AND SHOOT. IF YOU CAN'T GO FAST ON THIS FORK THEN YOU JUST CAN'T GO FAST!!!!!!! IT'S A FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHITE BROTHERS RULE
ASK MY FRIENDS THERE ALL BEHIND ME ! HA HA HA | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave
a Weekend Warrior
from Richmond,VA USA
Date Reviewed: October 8, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | poor farm park | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$470.00 | | Purchased At: | Hammerhead bikes | | Strengths: | Super stiff. Great seals. Light. Easy to overhaul. | | Weaknesses: | Needs more TLC than average: fill air cartridges frequently. Travel is closer to 55mm. Custumoer support. Mine was not originally assembled correctly. | | Similar Products Used: | Marzocchi, SID | | Bike Setup: | Titus racer x al, XT | | Bottom Line: | Excellent for a racer or someone who enjoys frequent fork maintainance. Easy to tune, especially the spring stiffness (just adjust theair pressure). Stiffer than SID, Manitou. Mild stiction (GREAT seals) which never bothered me and probably would go away if I had installed the included foam wiper set. 3 stars for a rec rider like me, 5 for a racer. I'm selling mine because I bought a z80 atom bomb - less maintainance for this lazy boy. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
jerry wonnacott
a Cross Country Rider
from corvallis, or
Date Reviewed: July 26, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | MacKenzie River Trail | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | This fork is fairly light, laterally rigid, works well with the stock set-up for most riders, maintenance is fairly straightforward, E-Z peel stickers (I like the "stealth" look), actually has stayed fairly clean even after a winter riding in W Oregon | | Weaknesses: | A little maintenance intensive considering the competition, however, the performance is better than the competition, in general, the machined pieces on the arch to hold the brakes in position cracked under initial mounting on this and my SC70, poor design!, expensive. | | Similar Products Used: | Manitou4, White SC70, Rock Shock Indy XC, Judy XC | | Bike Setup: | I have used this on my FS Litespeed Hiwassee and the Litespeed Ocoee, XT stuff, Chris King wheels, etc, use it exclusively on the hardtail now. | | Bottom Line: | Good overall fork, not for the maintenance declined, you have to work on this fork, if you buy one, take it apart, lube everything first, understand how it is built, then you know what is going on and shouldn't have any chili reducing problems. I would buy this fork again for me but I would buy a 'Zoke for my kids because they don't work on their bikes much. I think their service is OK but the experience seems So Cal based and they don't know much about wet weather riding, so their advice isn't so good for me. I have had few problems with the air springs but you have to take them apart and clean and lube them, you can't just ignore them. If you do all of the above, the fork will work with no stiction, the air springs will only leak over 2-3 weeks and then only about 20lbs. They should ship a pump with the fork for the amount that you pay otherwise add $25 to the price if you are thinking of buying this fork. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mark Jagger
a Racer
from Leeds, UK
Date Reviewed: June 13, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Good dropout to crown length giving quick steering. The stanchions are also very large giving incredible rigidity. No problems there. | | Weaknesses: | They do not work. As stiff as they may be a suspension fork must go up and down with SOME travel. These do not. After three months of fettling and riding hard they do not do anything except weigh the front of the bike down. The biggest waste of money I have ever experienced. £600 for rigid, HEAVY, forks with no pump. Not as light as claimed by a good half a pound. Don't bother. I have even switched to Rock Shocks because of the experience. | | Similar Products Used: | Pace Pro Class, Rock Shox SID SL. | | Bike Setup: | Santa Cruz Superlight/XTR/Easton Carbon/Chris King/Pace. | | Bottom Line: | Quite obvious. It may be that I just got one of a bad batch. My experience has sorely damaged my previously excellent thoughts on a small, progressive, company. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
mike snare
a Cross Country Rider
from london
Date Reviewed: June 9, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | plymouth coastal | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | lite weight, steering response, good mud clearance | | Weaknesses: | rapid wear bushings, leaking air cartridges, lots of maintenance, poor low amplitude performance. | | Similar Products Used: | mag 21, fsx judy carbon, pace rc36 pro class | | Bike Setup: | fat ti. xtr. king headset an hubs, lite AND strong! | | Bottom Line: | compared to all other xc forks when new this fork is miles better in steering responce and under hard braking. the bushings do wear our reaaal fast, and this obs affects the steering. does routinely leak air occasionally mid ride or under big impacts. eg long rough downhills and airtime.
is pretty lite although does require lots of maintenance esp in bad weather.mud clearance is good,better than most.
action is poor over the small stuff, okay in mid range, and kinda bouncy over large high speed, kinda lessened by steering response.
overall if you dont mind lots of maintenance they're good as long as the bushings last!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Charles Coker
a Cross-Country Rider
from austin, tx
Date Reviewed: November 17, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
steering precision | | Weaknesses: |
maintenance hassle, not supple enough for me | | Similar Products Used: |
all | | Bike Setup: |
on a 2000 RacerX lite | | Bottom Line: | a great race fork, too much hassle (maintenance) and not plush enough for technical rock riding
back on a bomber (z2 xfly)
the Z2 Xfly _performs_ way better but is a bit heavier and taller, not the best fork for a hardtail | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
steves
a Cross-Country Rider
from austin, tx
Date Reviewed: November 10, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
steering precision
looks (whoop-dee-do) | | Weaknesses: |
labor intensive
no boots
leaky air
hassle to adjust
expensive | | Bike Setup: |
Titus evolution
Fork: 175psi(170lb rider)
compression full fast
rebound stock
triple lip seal | | Bottom Line: | Needs to be torn down once per week to keep it working smoothly. Perfect for the paid racer, lame for the rest of us. Had poorly-built cartridges which leaked like crazy until rebuilt. Cartridges squeek on compression on faster settings and have tight spots mid-stroke. No external adjustments. Required home-made tool or long screwdriver for disassembly(hassle)
Too much trouble for the money. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Isaac
a Cross-Country Rider
from Englewood, TN
Date Reviewed: November 4, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
Its the best cross country fork made
(that is if it would hold air) | | Weaknesses: |
The thing won't hold air for more than 10 hours! | | Similar Products Used: |
SID XC | | Bike Setup: |
FSC XC Comp
Z-3 bomber | | Bottom Line: | This would be a great fork if I could ever get it to hold air. It would be even better if I could get ahold of the company to complain about it. I guess they dont have enough time for there customers. If I could go back and buy a different fork it would be a SID. Rock Shox will back up there products and customers. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Robert Shook
a Cross-Country Rider
from Seattle, WA
Date Reviewed: September 21, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
Light, tracks great- plush and
easy to service. | | Weaknesses: |
Coating on fork legs wears off
in time | | Bike Setup: |
Homegrown hardtail | | Bottom Line: | Excellent performing fork- this thing steers like a dream. Super plush- at least
until the coating on the fork stanctions starts to wear off. I have had the fork for
6 months, and have cleaned it regularly, but the coating on the stanctions is wearing off. A call to White and I learned that they are puting a different coating on their
forks now, so as it is still under warranty (a 1 year warranty) they said
they will replace the stanctions. So I am still thrilled about this fork, and barring
any unforseen problems with the warranty work I still can't say enough great things
about this baby. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jason
a Racer
from Peoria, IL
Date Reviewed: September 3, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Jubilee Park plank trail | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
Looks
Strength
Customer Support | | Weaknesses: |
So far none | | Similar Products Used: |
Rock Shox
Judy XC
Mag 21
Manitou
1997 SX Ti
Marzocchi
Z2 Bomber
XC600 | | Bike Setup: |
1998 Kona KU
wheels, seat, bar | | Bottom Line: | This is to update my review from March. I love the fork more each ride! It virtually resists bottoming, improves every aspect of handling, and is a breeze to maintain and tune. I did have to send it back to White Bros. for some warranty work, but the problem was a complete fluke and in no way indicative of quality control. They fixed the problem free of charge and sent me my fork back with minimal down time. I know the price is hard to understand if you don't own one, but you will not regret the purchase. This fork is motorcross technology shrunk for your bike! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John
a Cross-Country Rider
from Seattle, WA
Date Reviewed: August 10, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
rigidity
appearance
ease in changing compression | | Weaknesses: |
weight
difficulty in changing preload
Quality control | | Similar Products Used: |
Judy XC
Marzochi | | Bike Setup: |
Specialized M2 FS Comp | | Bottom Line: | Fork seems to have a pretty high degree of stiction. It feels very rigid. No flex or twisting on rocky trails. Weight is not as advertised. Mine weighs 3.29 pounds with steerer tube cut to 190mm. Upon dissassembly, noted that it had too much oil, and is missing one of the bottom out bumpers (orange squishy things). Brake mounting shaft was improperly inserted, causing breakage of the machining designed to keep the shaft from rotating. THe jury is still out. on this thing. I like the way it looks. I like how solid it feels. But I'm not sold that it is as smooth as my XC with Speed Springs and a Reese Racing cartridge. Minus one for weight, minus one for quality control. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bomber Bob
a Cross-Country Rider
from Clark, NJ
Date Reviewed: July 26, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Chimney Rock in Bound Brook, NJ | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
Real World quality | | Weaknesses: |
None that I can see | | Similar Products Used: |
Answer Manitou SX Carbon | | Bike Setup: |
Specialized M4 Hartail,Mavic Crossland wheels, Race Face cranks, Race Face Ti bottom bracket, Race Face SYStem (I like Race Face), Cooks Bros. Racing Seat Post, WTB STB-98 seat, Bontrager Jones tires, Chris King Headset, Avid Ultimate L brake Levers, Avid SD 50 brakes, carbon cables, Answer Hyperlite bars, yadayadayada...... | | Bottom Line: | Sweeeeeeeeeeeet fork. I sure didn't feel that way about the Answer Manitou SX Carbon fork I had on prior (see review by Bomber Bob). This fork tracks like a Cheetah. Spoke with support about various questions I had when I first got it. They spent 20 minutes of quality time explaining, in great technical detail, valuable answers to each of my questions. Try that with some of the big names (like Answer...hehe). Once I broke it in (10 hrs), set the preload and air pressure for my riding style, single track is now scary fast! Fork doesn’t bottom out easy. Technical climbs are very controlled due its super light weight. But, it’s not “stupid light” like other forks I’ve tried (can you say “Manitou SX Carbon”?). | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rick
a Racer
from PA
Date Reviewed: July 6, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
Stiffness
Adjustability
Quality | | Weaknesses: |
None | | Similar Products Used: |
99 Sid SL
WB SC 90
Judy FSX with WB cartridge / springs
WB UD150
Judy XL | | Bike Setup: |
Litespeed Tsali, XTR, WB 1 Ti riser bars, Flite saddle, Michelin Comp S, WB SC72UL | | Bottom Line: | Great fork. No deflection in the rough stuff. Easy to tune and maintain. Point and shoot. Technical support is wonderful as are the White Brother's support staff at the races. They'll take time to answer youur questions and will even show you how to service your fork !!! Quality stuff from quality people. (I have three of their forks, SC 72UL, SC 90, and a UD150) | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tom
a Cross-Country Rider
from Kansas City
Date Reviewed: July 3, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
Extreemly stiff, tracking is unbelievable Easy to adjust and maintainence is a snap, Excellent progression rate, smooth and plush, very lightweight. | | Weaknesses: |
Some say cost. I found mine at mail order sports for $530.00 | | Similar Products Used: |
97 judy xl
98 zokes
99 manitou sx | | Bike Setup: |
97 Lightspeed Obed | | Bottom Line: | Do not buy in to all the advertising hype of the other big three. White Brothers have been doing suspension longer than any of them and have arrived where the other three are trying to get. I believe it will be difficult to make a fork that even compares to the performance of the WB without infringing on some design patents. Just take the time and ride on one you will be impressed as long as its adjusted properly. price wise they can be found much cheeper than $700.00 | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Sick Boy
a Racer
from Lubbock, TX
Date Reviewed: April 29, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
tested or demo'ed only | | Strengths: |
Hehe, everything. | | Weaknesses: |
Uhhh, I guess you might call the high cost a weakness... | | Similar Products Used: |
Ridden just about all of 'em. Own a Manitou SX-Ti, it's ok, but nuttin compares to this jam-up fork except for maybe the Rock Shox 1999 Sid XC. | | Bike Setup: |
Schwinn Homegrown, XT components. | | Bottom Line: | This fork rocks. I rode a friends bike which is almost exactly like mine, and the difference is unbelievable. I will now start drinking Miller High Life instead of Bud Ice, curb my herb budget, and ride my bike everywhere I need to go until I have enough money saved up to buy this wicked fork. Did I mention how light this danged thing is? 2.9 pounds folks!!!!!! I expect my bike to weigh right close to 20 pounds when I get this fork. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
R. Shook
a Cross-Country Rider
from Seattle, WA
Date Reviewed: April 19, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
Lightweight, easy to dial in settings,
ease of maintenance. | | Weaknesses: |
High price (but lower than the SID) | | Bike Setup: |
Homegrown factory hardtail | | Bottom Line: | This fork is so sweet. I replaced a JUDY XC, and now I can actually control where
the bike goes, instead of fighting where the bike wants to go. The light weight makes
a big difference as well. This thing is plush, but not springy- and is easy to
take apart and re assemble. My riding has gotten better just by adding this
baby to the bike. LOVE IT! oh yea- I think EXCEL SPORTSBUILDERS has this
fork for around 550.00. Cheaper than the SID and from what I hear about the SID,
the WHITE BROS seems to be the clear choice for an air shock fork. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
jerry
a Cross-Country Rider
from corvallis, or
Date Reviewed: April 19, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
North Ridge Trail, Marys Peak | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
Quality, strength, ease of maintenance, performance | | Weaknesses: |
Price, advocates tend to use standard English so the reviews don't have the youthful colloquialisms | | Similar Products Used: |
Manitou 4, Judy XC, Indy XC, White SC70 | | Bike Setup: |
Litespeed Hiwassee, Full XT 9 speed, Mythos XC, XTR wheelset | | Bottom Line: | Laterally stiff so it tracks extremely well, smooth action almost no stiction, progressive action, hard to bottom out with the right set-up, very adjustable, easy to maintain, no ridiculous colors just subtle. This fork is a pleasure to use, it far surpasses the performance of most other forks for XC riding, it is light yet very strong and has almost no lateral flex. It is quite expensive and may not be the best for price/performance but if you want to spend the money this fork will surpass the performance of the all others including the revered Zokes. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Zachary
a Cross-Country Rider
from NY
Date Reviewed: April 4, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Waywayonda | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
Plush without being too soft or diving much on the brakes. Looks cool too. | | Weaknesses: |
no fork boots. | | Similar Products Used: |
SX-TiSID-XCJudy SL | | Bike Setup: |
Santa Cruz Superlight w/Fox Air Vanilla float RC.SC72UL air pressure pumped up slightly towards the firm side of normal as directed by owners manual. | | Bottom Line: | I just rode it for the 1st time. I wouldn't normally review it so soon but I was quite impressed. I was told this fork takes some time to break in but it was awesome straight out of the box. I can't imagine it any room for improvement. The only set up I did was air pressure. I Left all of the other adjustments alone. This was my first time on a FS bike where the fork felt as plush and sophisocated as the shock. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ken Yates
a Cross-Country Rider
from San Pedro, CA
Date Reviewed: March 22, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
Rigid, Great Handling
Incredibly well made, nice finish, good looks | | Weaknesses: |
None (price is high, but quality warrants it.) | | Similar Products Used: |
Mag 21 (with Mods)
'96 Judy XC with Englund
'97 Judy SL, without and with Englund
'97 Manitou FS
'98 SID
'98 White Bros. SC90 | | Bike Setup: |
Shock is on an Ellsworth Truth, with XTR, King hubs and headset, Thompson post, Bebops,and an ALPS 5R in back.
175 psi, Pro-kit with shorter negative spring installed.
#1 rebound valves, with 3 turns out
15 cc of 15w shock oil in each leg | | Bottom Line: | This is a fantastic fork. After trying a '98 SC90 to equip my Ellsworth Truth as a trails bike, I was so impressed by the stiffness, handling, fabrication quality and smoothness that I decided to get the SC72UL to set the Ellsy up as a cross country dually. The stock negative spring of the SC72UL makes it WAY plush - too plush for me with too much pogoing, even in the saddle. After I installed the pro kit with the short spring (less negative spring action), it stiffened it up to be EXACTLY what I wanted - very little pogoing, still absorbed some small bumps, and took care of the medium and big hits well. It perfectly balanced with my ALPS 5R on the rear so that the bike felt suspension balanced for the first time since I built it up. The bike handles better than it ever has, with great agility on the single track, front end tracking on steep climbs, and plenty of stability dropping down the screaming Elevator downhill in PV. The best combination so far of the responsiveness of a hardtail and the benefits of a full suspension.
The machineing of the crown, dropouts and other pieces was impeccable.
From this fork and my older SC90, I think that White Bros. make the best suspension forks, period. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jason
a Racer
from East Peoria
Date Reviewed: March 21, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Jubilee State Park @ Peoria, Illinois | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
No Flex = great ride
Great looks
Very easy to maintain
Top notch phone support | | Weaknesses: |
Cost | | Similar Products Used: |
Marzocchi XCR
Rock Shox Mag 21
96'Judy XC
97' SX Ti | | Bike Setup: |
180 lbs. of pressure
Stock rebound adjusters
Compression 2 full turns out | | Bottom Line: | I have only had the SC72UL for one week but am already devoted. The fork tubes are fatter than anything else I've ridden and can truly feel the difference. The handling of my bike has totally changed for the better. The front end seems to glide over anything it encounters. Adjusting the compression with the 4mm allen makes the fork firm up really nice. The fork has a 100 mile(won't be long)break in period, but I am content right out the box! It comes with a Super Slick Kit, which is nothing more than puting foam rings under the top seal to aid in lubrication, but I am not using it. Also comes with faster and slower rebound adjusters and a heavier rebound spring, but can't find any reason to switch yet. I can easily give the WB 5 out of 5 based on first impressions alone. Buy one and I guarantee you smile more when you ride!! | | Overall Rating: |
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