Submitted by
Jordan
a Downhiller
from Colorado Springs, CO Date Reviewed: June 16, 2005
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$400.00
Purchased At:
My Teacher
Strengths:
Dude this fork is great, its so burly and weighs a lot less than it looks, I do huge road gaps on this things and it still holds up great, I even did a fifteen foot drop and it did great! I don't know what these guys mean by stiction, this thing is plush, not as plush as a supe T but its cheaper and used. I guess I got lucky and got the good one, because this fork rocks and I plan on it lasting another 2 years.
Weaknesses:
The seals did wear, but after two years what do you expect? All I did was send it in to White Brothers and have them replaced and then tons of other stuff installed just in case. The bolt to get the wheel off stripped too, but it was easy to fix.
Similar Products Used:
Boxxer, Monster T, Super T,
Bike Setup:
Santa Cruz Bullit
Bottom Line:
This fork is awesome as long as you take care of it. I'm seriously impressed with all that I've put it through. Make sure to check it out before you buy it, other than that it freaking sweet!
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Submitted by
josh juba
a Downhiller
from Burnaby,B.C. Canada Date Reviewed: June 1, 2005
Favorite Trail:
CBC
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$60.00
Purchased At:
got it from a friend who got it over hauled
Strengths:
this fork is so much stronger than most foeks i have riden besides 888RC; compaired to the boxxer i snaped in half a week ago.!!!!!
this fork is plush, hard to bottom and is very stif for inverted fork
Weaknesses:
the only weakness is that the seals can wear out fast but the way to stop this is to lube up the seals ever now and then and they last twice as long
Similar Products Used:
Boxxer,888RT,888RC
Bottom Line:
this fork is a sweat ass peace of metal
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Submitted by
Cubby Kerson
a Downhiller
from Napa Date Reviewed: April 23, 2003
Favorite Trail:
karpiel at northstar
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$575.00
Purchased At:
mtbr.com
Strengths:
Good rebound for jumping, looks gnarly, pretty light
Weaknesses:
STICKY! Top out. Bent the frickin stanctions and the forks are useless now. Too much rebound for DH, not enough adjustment, blew out the seals first time riding them and all the oil came out throughout the rest of season.
Similar Products Used:
Dorado DH, Marzocchi mr t, superT, jr t, monster T
Bike Setup:
Bullit, 5th element, singlewide rims, mr dirt gizmo, hayes dh, custom paint, sticky rubber high rollers
Bottom Line:
Since i live in napa there isn't too much DH riding, so they have worked out alright for dirt jumping surprisingly. For DH riding they are alright, but the topout and lack of adjustments is way lame.
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Submitted by
Crazy RedNek
a Racer
from Coal harbour B.C Date Reviewed: September 12, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Mine
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$900.00
Purchased At:
At some place
Strengths:
stane less steel clamps plush 6 and a bit more of tr- strong aval. nice to look at
Weaknesses:
WERE!
Similar Products Used:
Lucky Condom
Bike Setup:
Rocky Mountain RM6 DH 2 fork MRP Chain Gide Azonic pedals Azonic Handle Bar 8 inch Rotars Sun Ringle Double Track rims
Bottom Line:
This Product Kicks Ass so DONT bad mouth it.
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Submitted by
Michael
a Downhiller
from Roseville, CA USA Date Reviewed: November 9, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Karpiel/DogBone/Sicks'nStones
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Purchased At:
White Bros
Strengths:
Everything until.....
Weaknesses:
Bushings blew out & WB could not fix the problem (???).
Similar Products Used:
Boxxer, Z1QR
Bike Setup:
'00 RM6
Bottom Line:
Sent the fork to WB to be serviced. Came back with the same problem. After hearing that WB is no longer in the MTB business from my local rep, I sold the fork off to buy a Super T Pro. Too bad. WB makes killer moto stuff & the fork rocked until.....
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Submitted by
Erick
a Racer
from Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858 Date Reviewed: October 2, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Gold Hill
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
Great fork, great price, light weight. If you have the gold 2000 fork invest in the new crowns, because they're much stiffer and stronger. Invest in THE fork guards. They are much cheaper than new stanchions.
Weaknesses:
Some stiction when new but just keep riding and they will break in.
Similar Products Used:
Many
Bike Setup:
Lenz Sport Pro Descender
Bottom Line:
Awsome product for a privateer racer or freerider who thrives on high performance parts. Email me if you have any questions.
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Submitted by
Brian
a Downhiller
from Boise Date Reviewed: September 19, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Trail 4
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$490.00
Purchased At:
Ebay.com
Strengths:
Very easy to adjust, plush, optional 7 inch travel kit, travel feels bottomless with the 7 inch kit.
Weaknesses:
Negative spring in damper side leg makes it kind of a pain to reinstall the axle when putting the wheel back on (this is a pretty minor complaint though). Everything else is great though.
Specialized FSR DH, Hayes disc brakes, Sun Doublewide Rims, Race Face Cranks, Blackspire Chainguide, Honda CR250 Handlebar.
Bottom Line:
I've used this fork for one racing season so far and have loved it. It's worked great at every race, with almost no maintenance. Travel feels bottomless and the damping (contrary to what some people say about it) seems to work very well. Very smooth feel no real stiction that I can feel. Just keep the seals lubed with oil and it works awesome. It also feels very rigid especially with the optional MX bar mounts. The fork guards are a great idea and more companies who make inverted forks should use them. I've taken some hard crashes and those guards have saved the lowers every time. Bottom line is that it is a great fork for a great price. Inverted is the way to go. Go buy one.
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Submitted by
El Fredericos
a Downhiller
from Finland Date Reviewed: September 19, 2001
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$650.00
Purchased At:
LBS
Strengths:
option for extra Inch, not too heavy, looks nice
Weaknesses:
Flexes a bit, some stiction, "rebound damping"
Similar Products Used:
UD 150, Hanebrink Z-6, Jr T
Bike Setup:
Dare
Bottom Line:
Good fork for the price. Not enough damping, even after changing to heavier oil..
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Submitted by
KrazeeeJ
a Downhiller
from USA Date Reviewed: August 16, 2001
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$730.00
Purchased At:
mailorder
Strengths:
smooth, 20mil axle, 2 bolt upper crown and a six bolt lower crown 180mils of travel nice ano colors
Weaknesses:
the fork has stiction and seems to have some flex.
Bottom Line:
i don't know a whole lot about dh forks but this one feels so good. It adds confidence when riding or jumping off of hills on a course. I would buy this fork.(I did buy this fork)The only knock on the fork is the stiction. I hope WB can come up with a solution. You don't notice it when you're riding.
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Submitted by
bigdaddy
a Downhiller
from phoenix Date Reviewed: August 10, 2001
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$700.00
Strengths:
looks great,rider great, handles very well, optional 7 inch kit
Weaknesses:
has some stiction
Similar Products Used:
xvert carb, jr-t ,monster-T
Bike Setup:
slammer II mammoth rims, hayes brakes, xtr cranks,
Bottom Line:
For the price the fork is sweet. It's not to heavy and has an optional 7 inch kit. It handle sweet and looks great. I had to swap the spring though it came to light and would bottom out on big hits. The bottom line is there is not another fork in it's class for the price.
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Submitted by
Jesse
a Downhiller
from Petaluma, CA, USA Date Reviewed: August 7, 2001
Favorite Trail:
M@M
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
Sea Otter Classic 2001
Strengths:
very plush fork, great feel off big drops and at speed
Weaknesses:
clicks a little during stutter bumps and high speed runs
Similar Products Used:
Marzocchi Shiver, Boxxer
Bike Setup:
Rotec Pro DH, Hayes 8 inch hydros, Fox, Azonic, Titec, Mavic
Bottom Line:
A great fork that tracks very well and is super plush. A good DH race fork.
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Submitted by
Tom Hightower
a Downhiller
from Alta Loma, Ca,USA Date Reviewed: July 6, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Big Bear
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$900.00
Purchased At:
competitive edge cycles
Strengths:
This is a very smooth fork great design takes big and small hit`s the way you like`em work`s great off drop`s and jump`s under braking smooth ,Light for the big job it does which is great there is no better fork for free riding and downhill
Weaknesses:
The spring`s were to soft they should ask which spring`s do you need or want with it
Similar Products Used:
cannondale moto120
Bike Setup:
Bullit w/X-T hydro brakes 8" up front 6" rear Hadley DH hub`s through axle`s mavic 521`s deraleur front xt rear xtr easton riser bar`s sram grip shifters thomson seat post ........
Bottom Line:
These fork`s kick @ss ,You need to ride them for about ten hour to break them in after that it`s like butta baby get hevyer spring`s if you weigh more than a buck fifty get the fork gaurd`s and up most buy this fork if you want to ENJOY THE RIDE Thank you White Bro`s
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Submitted by
Mike
a Downhiller
from Orange county CA Date Reviewed: June 18, 2001
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
has 7inches of travel
Weaknesses:
it has some sticktion, but if all you need your travle for is big jumps and ledges, they are fine. not too good with little bumps unless going fast.
Similar Products Used:
RST Delta Hl(not similar)
Bike Setup:
pos frame and great components
Bottom Line:
I have not ridden this thing much yet but I need to know where you can get the bolt on stem. does anyone have one that I can buy? does anyone know where you can get it, except from white brothers. help me out my email is xtr33boy@yahoo.com i need to find one fast. I also need some fork guards anyone have a cheap pair I can buy
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Submitted by
clayton paquette
a Downhiller
from bc Date Reviewed: June 14, 2001
Favorite Trail:
cbc
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$500.00
Purchased At:
used
Strengths:
Very very plush, great performance, nice rideing over liitle drops and big ones too, sucks up everything
Weaknesses:
crowns i got look a littlw weak, very sensitive stantions, and a few clicking sounds i hear, but i dont know why
Similar Products Used:
dh3, boxxer , manitiu
Bike Setup:
99 marin team dh, 8 inch hayes front and back, mavic 321 disk rims
Bottom Line:
good fork, needs a bit of tlc, and also a little bit of matanience and work
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Submitted by
Ek
a Downhiller
from WI Date Reviewed: April 27, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Quary Park
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$500.00
Purchased At:
used
Strengths:
Lack of weight like other 7 inch forks.Its very plush but not unresponsive.I also got the motomounts & they work very good instead of a normal stem.Looks great like off a 250cc motocross bike
Weaknesses:
Single bolt top crown should be dual like its big brother the DH3.Fork guards are kind of cheap looking
Nice fork for the money since I got it used.I hope I dont have the problems like the people below.
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Submitted by
JR
a Downhiller
from Phoenix Date Reviewed: April 23, 2001
Favorite Trail:
South Mountain
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$800.00
Purchased At:
Rage cycles Tempe AZ
Strengths:
Great damp and rebound control. Opt. 7 inch kit,feels very smooth when booming down a road at 35+ mph. Takes jumps and the rough stuff pretty well, only 6.7 pounds. Better than any 9 pound fork.
Weaknesses:
springs to soft, oil to light, no skins or fork gaurds. 25$ for the extra inch.
Similar Products Used:
sxti, xvert r, xvert carb, judy dh, jrt's,ud150
Bike Setup:
Scott Neva, dh2 forks, hayes front and rear hubs and brakes, mammoth fat 36 spoke rims, azonic bars, titec dh seat, odi lockjaw grips xt shifter
Bottom Line:
The fork comes setup for light riders probably 135 to 145 pound riders. I weight 230 and when I got the forks they where way to soft for my weight and my style of riding. The first thing I did was buy much stiffer springs add the extra travel go a little thicker on the oil (if you want) And as on all inverted forks add fork guards. Keep the rocks away from the legs. Any scratches or nicks will just shred your seal to hell. Bottom line I basically rebuilt the fork before it went on the bike. Personally I think this should be done to any fork that has just come from the factory. All pro dh riders do the same. They have their mechanic setup the fork for their weight and type of riding. You need to do the same. The only work I trust is my bike shop and my own. You will notice the difference!!
EVERTHING POSSIBLE. THE FORK HAD AN UNBELIEVEABLE AMOUNT OF PLAY IN IT ABOUT A MONTH AFTER RIDING AND THE SEALS BLEW IN A MATTER OF MINUTES.OH YEAH, THE AMOUNT OF STICTION SUCKED AS WELL, IT WAS LIKE GUM.
Similar Products Used:
BOXXER-KICKS ASS, MARZOCCHI SHIVER- THE BEST
Bike Setup:
KONA STINKY
Bottom Line:
THIS FORK SUCKS. THATS IT. MAYBE FOR YOU WEAK RIDERS BUT IF YOU DONT MESS THIS FORK UP THEN YOUR OBVIOUSLY NOT A HARD RIDER. THIS FORK SUCKS AZZ. I HATE IT, WHITE BRO'S SUCKS.
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Submitted by
Alex davis
a Racer
from Monterey CA Date Reviewed: April 5, 2001
Favorite Trail:
sea otter dh
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$799.00
Purchased At:
cambria
Strengths:
this fork is shi*. i hate it completely. after two months of rididng i got play in the fork and my seals blew, it sucks. Its all about a good strong reliable company like marzocchi. even rock shocks is better.
Weaknesses:
same as its "strenghts"
Similar Products Used:
boxxer, jr.t
Bike Setup:
bullit
Bottom Line:
the bottom line is this fork sucks, fdont buy one.
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Submitted by
dave
a Racer
from perth west ausralia Date Reviewed: February 26, 2001
Favorite Trail:
dwellingup
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Purchased At:
hi-way cycles
Strengths:
none
Weaknesses:
everything, don't buy these don't listen to anyone else i've had these forks for about a year and i've had nothing but trouble. white bros don't care, don't want to help you either. there noisy,flexy and putting a 7 inch kit in just makes them worse, top out, bottom out and they don't absorb little brakin bumps either. sorry to go on and on but they are the biggest waste of money ever.
Similar Products Used:
boxxer, shiver, manitou
Bike Setup:
M1, hope dh4, xtr crank, pro tapers, fox tc
Bottom Line:
dont waste your money. if your lucky enough to find a shop with a boxxer grab them, thats a "real" fork
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Submitted by
Nick
a Downhiller
from Australia Date Reviewed: January 18, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Anything Hard
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$2200.00
Purchased At:
supercycle
Strengths:
Crowns are real nice they are strong and stop a lot of flex especially with the dh3 crowns on them good bottom resistence work real niceif u can get them to work
Weaknesses:
REAL LOT OF STICTION constant servicing needed stanchions are easy to scratch and ive twisted the forks real bad after a small incident with a jump seals wear quickly cartridge blows quickly inconsistent damping need expensive specialty tools just to clen seals and bushings
Good forks if u have a personal mechanic and alot of money they have been a pain in the ass since i got them and really wish i hadnt got them but all forks have there weakness's
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Submitted by
Schooler
a Downhiller
from Vancouver Date Reviewed: December 21, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Circus
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$800.00
Strengths:
Looks great, hard to bottom out once they break in, super stiff-->even torsionally for an inverted fork, seven inch kit is super sweet, rebound adjuster actually works; not like a Boxxer.
Weaknesses:
Reliability, maybe my fork's a lemon, but it's had to be disasembled twice since i got it.
Similar Products Used:
boxxer, manitou dc's.
Bike Setup:
2000 super eight w/ DH2, hayes, raceface, 26/24 wheels.
Bottom Line:
This fork feels great-->when its working properly. Two rides after I buy the fork i figure its not getting its full travel (about an inch left) and its bottoming out hard. Upon disasembly, the spring guide is found to be shattered and we couldn't figure out why the hydraulic damper wouldn't let it get its full stroke--->sent it back to WB. They send it back with a heavier spring and said they rebuilt the fork (damper side)and they charge me a hundred bucks. Yay me. I take the fork apart today because its ramping up and not getting full travel, and when i let some air out of it, oil came spewing out of the schraeder valve. Now I need another new part. Bottom line: This forks broken twice in the last three months and this is the winter season when i don't ride that much, what am I supposed to do next season if it keeps breaking all the time and I can't race b/c of it? Two strikes so far, one left....I guess we'll see. I may just say screw the weight and get a Monster T.
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Submitted by
Steve
a Downhiller
from Walnut Date Reviewed: December 12, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Mt. Snow Expert DH
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$450.00
Purchased At:
Cheeta Cycles
Strengths:
Very easy to maintain. Pour 10cc's of 30 weight oil in once a month with daily riding. Super stable over braking bumps and jumps, this fork is sturdy. The travel is progressive, and will not bottom easily Smooth. Great support from WB.
Weaknesses:
Some rattling sounds from springs. Stickers are wearing off a little from brake line.
This fork is of the same if not better quality of forks costing almost twice as much. For another 25 bucks, you can get seven inches of travel as well. I have hit the stanctions on rocks, and it doesn't do anything to the forks. The rebound adjuster actually works too. These are great for the money, and some of the best forks on the market period. They work they are strong, and they have great tech support. What more could you want?
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Submitted by
Jack
a
from Surrey, England Date Reviewed: December 12, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Morzine DH course, Aston Hill DH course
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$799.00
Purchased At:
thebikeco.com
Strengths:
plush, though practically impossible to bottom out. Enough travel to swallow bumps but not be too heavy. Looks great, sweet red finish. Makes your bike look moto. Generally great.
Weaknesses:
Heavy, but if you are looking into buying stuff like this thats not a problem is it. Seals are always something to look out for, I havent had it long enough to say anything in that area. Makes a funny sound on some hits but so what? Difficult to get spares so keep ur old forks while u wait. But who cares - these kick ass.
These forks are great. They ride really, really well - they absorb hits smoother than WB's previous stuff, and they keep traction better than most. I dunno about reliability, having not had them for long - i have kept my old junior t's in case i ever have to wait for spares. You can buy other forks such as the Stratos SS8 and Marzocchi Shiver which are also good, but they might have too much travel (8 inches?), in which case the WBs are your best bet. I really like these.
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Submitted by
JS
a
from home Date Reviewed: November 9, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$800.00
Strengths:
Plush usable travle, 6 or 7 in adjustable, zero flex, great looking, super strong, superb finish (better than Stratos and Marzocchis), and ultra smooth.......................
Weaknesses:
don't have one yet and hoping the seals of the shocks are good, that's all i'm worring about. The weight is 7 lbs, you decide if this is a weakness, i'm ok with that.
Similar Products Used:
JR. T, if you call that similar...
Bike Setup:
Santa Cruz Bullit, 6in rear travel, other components should match well at this level kinda bike.
Bottom Line:
Great great fork by far, never had a WhiteBros' shock but this one totally amazed me. Ultra fine finish is a plus. Service of this fork should be quite easy just hope it's durable (seals, etc). If you are looking for a DH shock or a 6-7 in fork, you need to check this one out. With all the strengths above, I'm very happy with it.
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Submitted by
Craig
a Downhiller
from Brisbane, Australia Date Reviewed: August 28, 2000
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Lotsa usable travel Smooth as me, sexy as my GF Great looks Strong
Weaknesses:
Funny noise over some bumps Damper leg extending when axle out, can handle though
Great Fork, great price. Got one through Rotec Cycles as a DH2/hayes package and have been very happy with it. Had a warranty issue with the brake and once finished everything performned well. grat thing about the fork is that is uses the travel without bottoming. Smooth as hell too. Got the 7" kit but am waiting for a custom 7" swing link formy rear before installing that. Should be F'n sweet though...
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Submitted by
David (Dragon) Meredith
a Racer
from Moscow Idaho, USA Date Reviewed: August 12, 2000
Favorite Trail:
any steep and deep
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
this thing just kicks @ZZ!! Wholy cow Batman was that just a 12-foot drop I just took? Yup it sure was. these forks can hammer! Way light so you can loft the front and keep it up when you need it (No viagra needed here!)
Weaknesses:
weak, what? maybe that you have to buy the fork guards seperatly.
Similar Products Used:
MR-T, Boxxer, x-vert carbon, ud-150, ud-180
Bike Setup:
Turner Judge Downhill. DH-@ W/extra long travel kit installed (you didn't read that Todd), all stock other than that. About 90 lbs of air in the resevoir. I keep it jacked in the crowns to keep the h.a. as raked as possible. low riders are cool! Sun/Ringle MODO's, gazz 2.6 tires, AZONIC EVERYTHING ELSE!!
Bottom Line:
buy this fork. I don't care from who (preferabbly from White Brothers) and put it on your bike. then go ride off some cliffs.
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Submitted by
Brian
a Weekend Warrior
from Bay Area, CA Date Reviewed: July 26, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
This shock is very smooth & plush, I installed the 7" kit and love the longer travel. So far this seems like a well built fork. Im very satisfied.
Weaknesses:
Well the only one I can come up with is when you remove the axle, the right leg extends making it more a little more difficult to install the wheel or use a fork up.
Similar Products Used:
Manitou X vert Ti, X vert R, WB DH118DC, Marzocchi Jr.T
$ 799.95
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