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Submitted by
Mark
a Cross Country Rider
from Wolfeboro, NH
Date Reviewed: August 21, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | All of 'em | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | Came on bike | | Strengths: | Has worked fine for 3 years. | | Weaknesses: | Not the smoothest thing around. | | Bike Setup: | GT Avalanche, 2000. | | Bottom Line: | Bought my bike as a leftover in 2001, and have put over 1000 miles on it... I've had to replace a few parts, but the headset does its job without a hitch. I overhauled the bike last week, and noticed that the lower races were quite worn, as well as the bearings. Come February (rebuild), I will be looking for a new headset, but I think that this one has done pretty well for the beating it has taken. Not the best, but not as bad as some people have experienced here...
One thing: the lower bearings seem to be over-exposed to the elements. They rust if you don't look after them. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rhodri
a
from South Wales, UK
Date Reviewed: August 14, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | Still going... | | Bottom Line: | Just to say... there seem to be different Tioga Alchemy headsets - different models and different years...
The black one that came with my '98 Kona Lavadome has lasted and lasted...
...I've greased it once since I've had the bike.
It's still here, and I still don't notice it(which is a good thing! I've never had a problem). Once it's come loose after some pretty hard riding(for me anyhow).
These are now available from cycleshopsmart at £7(british pounds. If I can make sure it's the same model on my bike, I'm going to buy another one for a new bike I'm building. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
theodore
a Cross Country Rider
from melb, australia
Date Reviewed: June 16, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | well... | | Weaknesses: | looks dirty...
and doesn't look anything like the pic...in fact it looks much older and even more useless.
bit heavy. | | Similar Products Used: | plenty. including crapper ones on more expensive bikes than the one i got it on. | | Bike Setup: | mongoose D50. i currently have a giant AC and don't really feel the difference in smoothness between the tioga and the giant's integrated cane creek. | | Bottom Line: | i have not greased/maintained it for 5 years, and have ridden it hard. numerous enduro rides, xc rides, even a few 2m drops
still going fine.
all it took were 3 taps with a mallet to get it out.
i'm changing it over to another 2nd hand bike i just got which has a crappy unsealed diatech headset which is already feeling like crap. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
RIder
a Weekend Warrior
from San Gabriel Mtns, CA
Date Reviewed: January 7, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$15.00 | | Strengths: | Keeps the fork somewhat centered in the bike's head tube. | | Weaknesses: | Flimsy, don't keep out dirt, apparently made from old Pepsi cans. | | Bike Setup: | GT Ricochet | | Bottom Line: | I gently rode with this headset (threadless Aheadset design) for about six months. I decided to replace my fork and bought another identical headset for the new races, etc. As I was removing the old headset, the lower race practically fell out of the head tube- it was cracked all the way through. This is a wonderful way to quickly damage a frame. The upper race had its microscopically thin plating worn completely off, and the bearings were running on the substrate metal. There were flakes of plating filling the grease on both the top and bottom bearing cages.
After a single ride with the new headset, the plating was already flaking off.
This headset appears to be made of recycled Chinese pot metal. It's not worth damaging your bike's frame to save a few dollars. There may be some low-priced headsets out there that are worth buying, but the Tioga Alchemy is not one of them. After seeing the second (brand new) headset start to disentigrate after a single ride, it isn't even deserving of a single chili.
As a side note, the bearings on both headsets were well packed with grease and the preload was adjusted properly. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Philip
a Weekend Warrior
from Gainesville, FL, USA
Date Reviewed: November 3, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$12.00 | | Purchased At: | ebay | | Strengths: | Cheap, strong for my weight (135lbs) | | Weaknesses: | Seems to rotate inside of the headtube, plastic top cap almost pulled itself through the stem | | Bike Setup: | Fuji Thrill frame, Duke C fork, XT-DT hubs/spokes | | Bottom Line: | This thing is just fine for my purposes... I spun the bearings in circles to get rid of the paint on the contacting surfaces, then greased and rode. Has worked fine with the exception of the plastic top cap - the bolt nearly pulled through the top cap. A spare top cap at the LBS was given for free, so it's all good. No problems so far, and I doubt I'll ever need to replace it without breaking something else. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
k. m.
a Cross Country Rider
from somerville, MA
Date Reviewed: October 24, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | still works.... | | Weaknesses: | still works.... | | Similar Products Used: | cane creek, FSA, Chris King | | Bike Setup: | hardtail | | Bottom Line: | This headset wont stop working. it never worked very well, always felt like there were a few grains of sand in it and every ride for close to five years i have expected it to break, come loose, orjust plain fail...to no avail. The other headsets i ahve used are far superior in feel but i havent riddent ehm as long as the tioga. Granted this thing is a small piece of crap taht will in no way improve your riding nor protect your bike/well being...i have yet to have it break..ive done only one bout of maintenance on it...anyways, its like those old toyota trucks...you dont like them, but they just wont die....anywyas, im going to replace this one this season...enough ugly componenets on my bike.... | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ronin
a Weekend Warrior
from South Bay Rules!
Date Reviewed: July 12, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | RollerCoaster | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Purchased At: | SuperGo | | Strengths: | Price
Durable | | Weaknesses: | Not sealed very well
So many damn pieces | | Bike Setup: | Nishiki Hardtail, Manitou X-Vert DC | | Bottom Line: | I think 3/4 of you people are talking about the threaded headset. I've got the Alchemy DL/S Aheadset and it's served me well over 5yrs without a single problem. I remember having to tighten it once to clear up some fork slop but other than the required maintanence intervals (lube), it has performed flawlessly. That's phenomenal considering I bought this for $10 from SuperGo about 5-6 yrs ago and have put it through hell and back and then hung the bike up for a year. The only gripes I have are the way it's sealed and how it falls apart when removing your fork. Both problems can be attributed to it's weird design. It's an open design that is pieced together unlike it's sealed bearing brethren which cost 20x more. This is of course due to cost efficiency (What did you expect for $10?) and has no effect on overall performance other than having to be lubed more frequently in dusty conditions. I've put alot of jumping and medium DH time on mine and it's held up to everything. It's not a DH or FreeRide item but does it claim to be? For the money you just can't beat it...literally. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jason Walker
a Cross Country Rider
from Halifax, N.S, Canada
Date Reviewed: July 25, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Sackville Powerlines | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$20.00 | | Purchased At: | the bike people | | Strengths: | Looks Pretty Beefy | | Weaknesses: | EVERYTHING!!!!!
| | Similar Products Used: | Dia-Compe Aheadset | | Bike Setup: | KHS Alite 4000 | | Bottom Line: | Someone please help us cursed people who have these headsets. I've been riding this on and off for a year, and was creaking and loose from day one.!! There is no way this product can really be this bad. I'm a mechanic and I've had this apart too many times changing everything race, bearings, bearing sizes, you name it. For those of you who may think that it's too old, don't worry, it did this from the day I installed it. If anyone uot there can figure out what we're all doing wrong please submit a review. It's so bad that I hate my KHS just for having it on the bike | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Richard Cunnew
a Cross Country Rider
from England
Date Reviewed: April 15, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | anyting | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Purchased At: | with bike | | Strengths: | STAYS TIGHT | | Weaknesses: | CREAKS A LITTLE | | Bike Setup: | CLAUD BUTLER CAPE WRATH
XT | | Bottom Line: | I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SLAGGING OFF THIS HEADSET
BUT MINE HAS WORKED PERFECT AND I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH IT WHATSOEVER.
IT CREEKS FROM TIME TO TIME BUT THATS ABOUT IT.
I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HAVING MANY PROBLEMS WITH IT, I AM PROBABLY ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES WITH ONE THAT ACTUALLY WORKS.
FOR ME ITS AN OVERALL GOOD HEADSET THAT WORKS WELL IN ALL CONDITIONS.
| Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andrew Kirkpatrick
a Weekend Warrior
from Northampton
Date Reviewed: October 8, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Harleston Firs | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | On Bike | | Strengths: | Has Bearings that sort-of move | | Weaknesses: | Made of plastic (don't know what the pic above is about but mine is 100% plastic), odd shape, utterly crap sealing (one ride in mud and the bearings are f**ked), cheap, weak... | | Similar Products Used: | YST Cartridge | | Bike Setup: | Kona Scab, Z3 Long Travel, LX | | Bottom Line: | This is approx £15, and thus shouldn't be utter crap. I have used a £2 headset and even that is made of metal! Never buy this in your life!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
J.R. Johnson
a Cross Country Rider
from State College, Pa, USA
Date Reviewed: August 22, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | Stock on my bike | | Strengths: | Hey, Its a headset. | | Weaknesses: | Every stinkin thing | | Bottom Line: | This is a piece of trash. It creaks real bad, the ball bearings fell out on mine and it finally broke from my riding and I'm only 115 lbs. JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK JUNK dont waste you money on this junk that doesn't. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Lupe'
a Weekend Warrior
from NYC
Date Reviewed: August 15, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Van Cortland Park | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | Last with little maintenance. | | Bike Setup: | Schwinn w/ LX/XT XC setup | | Bottom Line: | This headset came OEM on my bike three years ago. I just upgraded to a Cane Creek S5. While removing it I just realized I have never had a problem with this headset! I ride hard over rocky terrain with lots of jumps and drops and when I'm not off road I'm jumping off loading docks like a BMXer and this has never failed me. I only hope that my new headset performs as well considering it cost 8 times as much. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Michael
a Cross Country Rider
from Newark, DE
Date Reviewed: May 3, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Middle Run | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | It has kept my bike together | | Weaknesses: | leaks | | Bike Setup: | '98 Yeti AS3 dualie with XT drivetrain and judy XC fork | | Bottom Line: | I've only put about 40 miles on my bike and the headset is already screwed up. The plastic cover cracked and I have grease mixed with metal oozing out of it. Part of the problem was probably the installation | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dale Smith
a Cross Country Rider
from Canadice, NY
Date Reviewed: April 8, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Harriet Hollister Spencer Park | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Easy to maintain, comes aoart relatively easy, strong | | Weaknesses: | Looks cheap, wont stay tight all the time, doesn't seal out s$%t | | Similar Products Used: | dia comp
richty | | Bike Setup: | Mongoose a50r | | Bottom Line: | This is a cheap affordable strong all around headset, works well most of the time. If you take care of it,it will give yuo many years of economical service, JUST TREAT IT WELL. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
tommy
a Weekend Warrior
from woodside, nyc
Date Reviewed: March 23, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | cost only $10 | | Weaknesses: | getting ridiculed from my friends for buying it | | Similar Products Used: | Aheadset | | Bottom Line: | So far i havent had any problems with the headset. The only bad thing that came out of it were my friends and the owner of my LBS who made fun of me for buying a $10 headset for a $2000 bike | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jack
a Downhiller
from Aviano AB, Italy
Date Reviewed: November 16, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Piancavillo Italian Trail | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Weaknesses: |
I am pleased so far with this headset. | | Bike Setup: |
Mongoose MGX D50I | | Bottom Line: | I am pleased. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
kleinstien
a Weekend Warrior
from jacksonville
Date Reviewed: November 1, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Tsali | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
none | | Weaknesses: |
uh, lets see, where do I begin.... | | Similar Products Used: |
dia compe OEM | | Bike Setup: |
Klein Pulse, Z3 | | Bottom Line: | Since I have purchased this head set, I have been plagued with constant creaking noises. The top cap does not work, much less seal anything at all. I have to re pack it everytime I lay the bike down. (Damn I hate being poor!) I wish there was a no chillie category just for this piece of crap! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Eric
a Cross-Country Rider
from Quebec
Date Reviewed: October 25, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
None that I can think of. | | Weaknesses: |
Worked fine for 3 or 4 rides. Needs tightening all the time, sometime twice in the same ride. Now I can't tighten it anymore and I have to replace it. | | Similar Products Used: |
None | | Bike Setup: |
Kona Nunu with Bomber Z5. | | Bottom Line: | Not a good product. Spend your money on something better. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
coop1
a Downhiller
from nc
Date Reviewed: October 9, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
GOOD singletrack with jumps and dropoffs. | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
it's some how high enough for the standards of the tioga inspectors. | | Weaknesses: |
it stinx. it is stripped, it can't hold a fork tight, it comes loose when you look at it. it stinx!!!! | | Similar Products Used: |
fsa 3d (which is awesome), fsa orbit DL, aheadset, ritchey(which stinx too) many others. | | Bike Setup: |
i have a gt lts 2. it is soon to be upgraded to a Santa Cruz chameleon frame, and a Marzocchi Z2 bam. it will also have an fsa afterburner crank. FSA KICKS!!!! this bike will be the ultimate jumping/ dual slalom bike. | | Bottom Line: | this thing is awful!!!!!!! i got it too be a fill in untill i could get my FSA extreme or fsa 3d. it stripped automatically, it jiggles and shakes. i'm some times afraid it's just going to drop the fork while i'm riding. 0 flamin' red hot chilli peppers for this junk thing. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ryan
a Downhiller
from Lyons,CO
Date Reviewed: September 15, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Strengths: |
Hmmm... | | Weaknesses: |
This would take a 200 page paper to write. | | Similar Products Used: |
Nothing this cheap | | Bike Setup: |
Custom GT LTS-3
Full Suspension
Manitou X-Vert R DH Forks | | Bottom Line: | Well this sucks. First off it never kept my fork tight. Then the material started breaking down and the whole thing screwed up and fell apart. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Kman
a Cross-Country Rider
from TX
Date Reviewed: September 5, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Cedar Hill SP | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Strengths: |
Cheap | | Weaknesses: |
Cheap | | Similar Products Used: |
Diacomp | | Bike Setup: |
GT Zaskar, Judy XC | | Bottom Line: | It came stock on my wife's GT Backwoods. The only reason why I have not replaced it is because she does not ride very much. The problem is that the thing never stays adjusted right. It comes loose constantly. Some people may have success with theirs, but the one on my wife's bike is not any good at all. I would not suggest getting one. Spend a few bucks more and get something else. I have over 4000 miles on my Diacomp and it has never given me any trouble. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
GAvin
a Weekend Warrior
from Gilbertsville, NY
Date Reviewed: May 28, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
any single track that kicks | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
the bottom. | | Weaknesses: |
EVERY THING ELSE | | Similar Products Used: |
FSA ORBIT DL | | Bike Setup: |
Hellbent riserbar and kore 3d | | Bottom Line: | THIS THING IS A PIECE OF CRAP. IT WORKED FOR TWO WEEKS WELL THEN I TOOK IT OUT FOR A HARD RIDE. AFTERABOUT TWO HOURS I HEAR THIS CREAK CREAK CREAK, SO RACE BACK TO CHECK IT OUT TO MAKE SURE IT IS OK (I HAVE A 4 DAY WEEKEND TO RIDE) GUESS WHAT THE TOP CAGE BENT AND WAS RUBBING AGAINST MY FORK STEM AND GOUGED IT. TOTALY RUINED I HOPE TO SPRING FOR A CHEAP CHEAP NEW ONE BUT MY LBS (NOT MUCH OF ONE) HAS NOTHING IN STOCK SO I'M STUCK WITH A FOUR DAY WEEKEND WITH NO HEADSET. THE HEADSET WAS VERY VERY VERY WELL LUBED. PIECE OF CRAP DON'T BUY ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Submitted by
Black Angus
a weekend warrior
from Anaheim, CA
Date Reviewed: August 14, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I just removed my Tioga Alchemy headset from my bike after using it for about three years. The only complaint is that the lower race is not sealed very well and get dirt inside even in dry (Southern California summer weather) conditions. I usually had to repack it every 4 to 6 months to keep things happy. A good deal for the money. I replaced it with a WTB momentum because the WTB can be greased from the outside. As far as headsets go, the Alchemy performed well and was only starting to show signs of lower race wear after three years. One of the better headsets I've come across. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dan
a weekend warrior
from Minneapolis, MN
Date Reviewed: July 10, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
No too good. Worked OK at first, but something didn't seem right. Would work itself loose, and now the bottom cup is broke after only three months on a new bike. Didn't feel like replacing with the same - LBS guy said he wouldn't either. I didn't feel like spending $100+ on a new one, so the LBS guy recommended WTB Momemtum - hope it works better than this one. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Sam
a racer
from MAINE
Date Reviewed: May 29, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
F*&^%ing piece of crap. All's good and well for the first few weeks, but then it starts to need tightening all the time. Didn't notice it was loose on a ride until too late. It self destructed and chewed up many of the rings. But curiously the bearings were fine. It had metal bits in the greese and the whole nine yards. Fork over an extra $20 and get something that stays tight plus looks sharper like a Ritchey Fuzzy Logic. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nack
a cross-country rider
from Glendale, CA 91205
Date Reviewed: May 4, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I bought mine from Supergo. (Tioga Alchemy) Cost me only $10, well, I guess because I bought my fork from them too. One of the salepeople told me that it was going to be hell to take out the old one and put this on, but it only took me 10 minutes. As far as riding goes, turns comfotably, doesn't have play and I like it. I don't give a rat about the weight, although it is aluminum, because couple of grams for 1 172 pound person is not going to make much difference. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Lancer
a weekend warrior
from Northridge, CA
Date Reviewed: March 7, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I just purchased the Tioga Alchemy at Supergo for $15.00 at Supergo, an OEM closeout. The reason I purchased it was in a recent biking magazine it was rated as one of the top 10 products and went on to say, it was the only needle bearing headset that works. Based on that I bought it, having a Cannondale built up. The WTB Momentum I ordered specially for this build up will be in next week. For now, I'll use the WTB as a spare. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Marty
a racer
from Canada
Date Reviewed: February 2, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
As soon as I get some money, I am selling this headset. It's rough, heavy and doesn't look anything like the one in the picture above. It is still a tioga alchemy but doesn't perform as well as how everyone says it does. If your interested in buying it from me, say $15, e-mail me. Also a threaded xt headsdet for sale, $30. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Trek-Rider
a racer
from Maine
Date Reviewed: August 30, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I have a threaded, Alchemy headset on my bike. It came stock on the bike and
for the last 4 years I have rode the hell out of it, DH, XC, everything! I haven't touched the bearings, I tightened it about once every two years,
rode it with two different forks and not one bit of trouble. I never rode a king
but I can say this thing kicks..My only complaint is the iron locknut rusts
like hell but just sand it and repaint with touch up, and it looks great too.
Durability: 6+ chilis
Looks: 5
Overall: ^\6 but this is limited to five, SO 5 red-hots for this set. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Brad Mitchell
a cross-country rider
from Salem, MO
Date Reviewed: January 9, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
This headset is a very good deal, but it's a bitch if you want to take off your headset or fork. It works good as long as you keep it clean. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andrew Gibbs
a cross-country rider
from Murfreesboro, TN
Date Reviewed: January 9, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
This thing is crap.....you have to have a $60 tool to dissassemble it or to get your fork loose!! Plus it creaks and binds!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Carter
a racer
from Huntsville
Date Reviewed: November 14, 1996 | | Bottom Line: |
Tioga Alchemy is a perfect headset for any rider. I have ridden with it
since I started riding and now that I've started racing it suits me just
fine. I keep good care of it and it works just as good as new. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Don Seib
a racer
from Melrose, MA
Date Reviewed: June 15, 1996 | | Bottom Line: |
At $28 you can't go wrong with this headset. Yeah it doesn't have
the glamour
name and its not made of TI but you can buy a new one every year for 4
years and
not spend what is costs for a King or Dia Compe S series. A headset has a very
simple purpose and I've used an Alchemy for a year with no problems. If you
can perform your own routine maintenance on bearings this headset will last
for ever. I clean mine every few months because of the type of riding I do
and it shows no wear what so ever. Because it doesn't have sealed bearings
maintenance is very easy.
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