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Submitted by
rbehm
a Downhiller
from canada, b.c victoria
Date Reviewed: December 24, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | the dump, whistler, | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$80.00 | | Purchased At: | usedvictoria, came w | | Strengths: | I personaly put it through hell, It's a beast rim, it's a true rim still.
I'm a downhiller and i do put things to the test, this beats my expectations. | | Weaknesses: | Really reliable. | | Similar Products Used: | Double track rims, tough (not as strong as double wide rims) and strong, true. | | Bike Setup: | I got a 2004 GIANT dh team, with cris king head set, bomber marazachi forks, rock shox coil shock, double wide rims front and back. F.U.N stem and seat, | | Bottom Line: | A really strong rim, won't let you down, looks like a monster rim, strong, and reliable. The rim won't let you down. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
anthony dease
a Weekend Warrior
from morrisville, pennsylvania usa
Date Reviewed: April 7, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | street/park | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | came on bike | | Strengths: | handle big drops like a champ and can deff take a beating. | | Bike Setup: | khs dj 200 | | Bottom Line: | very nice rims deff preferred for every rider. but i need to get a new one i have destroyed my front rim it has a major flat spot in it. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
zwart licht
a
from amsterdam, Netherlands
Date Reviewed: May 17, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | nice and wide. strong and heavy. perfect for DH and FR, unless..... | | Weaknesses: | the spoke nipples break and pull the spoke head out of the rim | | Similar Products Used: | deemax, excalibur | | Bike Setup: | Nicolai Helius FR custom build | | Bottom Line: | had the rim for two weeks and one of the spokes nipples that are placed inside the rim broke and the whole spoke got pulled thru the hole
crap rims | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
a Downhiller
from Santa Barbara, CA
Date Reviewed: May 17, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | tunnel | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$20.00 | | Purchased At: | wooo craigslist | | Strengths: | Strong as hell, will never bend if you lace it well. Never pinch flats, increases the volume of your tire so you can run really low PSI, down to 15. Makes your bike look scary. | | Weaknesses: | Majorly wide, makes your tire square, but its not too bad. | | Similar Products Used: | Lots | | Bike Setup: | 05 kona stab supreme, 888rc, dhx5, etc | | Bottom Line: | I run a doublewide only on my back wheel. Ive found that I typically need a stronger wheel on my back, and this rim solves that problem. The rim isnt actually that heavy, its just wide enough to scare small children. | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jamie
a Downhiller
from CT, USA
Date Reviewed: April 9, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | ebay | | Strengths: | ^the price is 0$ because i got them on a bike.
they're really strong if they're new and not used (see below) | | Weaknesses: | i got a bike on ebay and it came with doublewides on it, and today i was changing the tire and i noticed that the rim was cracked at the weld seam (look under the doublewide label and you'll find it). my local bikeshops mechanic said he had the same problem with his. i then looked on my back rim and it was also cracked. | | Similar Products Used: | none really | | Bike Setup: | 2001 bighit, 2002 shiver DC, SRAM everything, doublewides, wtb timberwolf & nokain gazzaloddi, diablous cranks, MRP system 2 (i bent it) | | Bottom Line: | really good and strong. i'm going to order a new pair sometime soon to replace my current cracked pair. they're beefy weigh quite a bit though, but thats not a concern for me.
buy these rims!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
chet
a Downhiller
from bulacan, philippines
Date Reviewed: March 6, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$110.00 | | Purchased At: | king's bicycle shop | | Strengths: | super duppa stronnnggggggg!!! | | Weaknesses: | none so far... these rims are built for the kill... those who take weight as an issue are not downhillers or urban riders. other rims cannot take such abuses. try mounting thin rims and go big... and tell me if it is such a nice ride... | | Similar Products Used: | none so far | | Bike Setup: | shawn cycles h3 7.5 " travel, double wide rims, marz jr.t, quando rear hub thru axle, da bomb f hub qr option for thru axle, holzfeller crank, gigapipe bb, azonic loveseat, thomson seatpost, juicy seven brakes, maxxis high roller 2.5, hussefelt stem, answer bars, lizard skins north shore grips, shimano 545 pedal | | Bottom Line: | every hardcore rider who takes much abuse must have this rims... (set aside professional riders coz they have sponsors to replace every broken bike part} | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
alex peach
a Downhiller
from canada
Date Reviewed: February 16, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | the burn | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$130.00 | | Purchased At: | cycle solutions | | Strengths: | Its the strongest rim that I have ever ridden, and it looks sick to. props to the double wide!!! | | Weaknesses: | none sick rims | | Similar Products Used: | sun double track | | Bike Setup: | full on Dh race bike. | | Bottom Line: | the bottom line is that every one that has a bike should get double wides. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mook Nook
a Weekend Warrior
from Nah. For real
Date Reviewed: December 29, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | one mile | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | 55.00 | | Strengths: | I just bought my third piz-air. No joke this shizza is tough. Yeah they are heavy, so. More resistance going up, more encouragement going down. People one the subway are like: "Nice bike, Why are those wheels so big?, That is fat!". see what I mean. Few rims can do that. Very few.
| | Weaknesses: | You will doubt yourself after 2000' of granny. It's just the altitude. | | Similar Products Used: | None for the price. get me? | | Bike Setup: | Irrelevant. If you have a 2 brain cells, rub'em and you'll fathom "DOUBLEWIDES" | | Bottom Line: | If you are readinig this I suspect you already know. Deep down you know, you know like there is a turnpike in jersey, like you will never catch me, that you already bought these rims. You are only trying to justify your compulsive, imune, and irresponsible ego, defending itself from the Super critisizing all, just like it it has...
You will be daring fate, questioning " why not, this is the most fun I've ever had", and the rims will be bellow, stoic, like a plynth, humbly supporting it all. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike
a Weekend Warrior
from Long Branch
Date Reviewed: August 5, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | street, dirt jumps, trails. | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$50.00 | | Purchased At: | DJ's Cycles, long Branch | | Strengths: | INSANE!!!! i beat the SH*T out of these rims! i ride street and do fu_kin wall rides with these mothers and jump off every thing i see, case made dirt jumps, still nothing, and to think i thought bigger wheels fall out of true easier than 20" rims.... | | Weaknesses: | *** MUST HAVE DISC BREAKS*** but n e one knows that. their only weekness is children, bc they have to be ran over, and small rodents to make road kill. | | Similar Products Used: | haro heffer pro's | | Bike Setup: | Haro Zero, 6.5" travel, haro big block sealed bearing peddals, primo grips, dirt hirt harry breal lever, custom 23" oversized truvativ handle bars, gyro. | | Bottom Line: | im used to riding a 20" BMX volume destroyer frame with heffer pro's, one of thses rims is the same weight as both of these rims, it has to be. these rims are so wide every one is gonna have to look at how amazing ur bike looks. best rims ever made, especially if u beat the hell out ofr ur bike. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Greg
a Weekend Warrior
from Canada
Date Reviewed: June 6, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Purchased At: | Bike Room | | Strengths: | Wide, Stiff, Strong | | Weaknesses: | Finish chips easier than anodized rims | | Similar Products Used: | Sun Mammoth, Singletracks | | Bike Setup: | 04 Giant AC, 03 JR.T, Kona Buldge cranks, Mrp Minime chain guide, Kenda Kinetic tires | | Bottom Line: | This is the strongest and stiffest rim I have ever ridden or used, the stiffness was noticed instantlly. This was the first wheelset I built, took my time and asked the pro's for advise, no problems. Yeah its heavy, but only about 50 grams more than Doubletracks, so who cares unless your a weight weenie. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Joseph
a Downhiller
from Northfield VT USA
Date Reviewed: May 11, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$55.00 | | Purchased At: | Beyond Bikes, (price match it from Jenson USA) | | Strengths: | They are only as strong as you make them. They are tough rims, mainly because they are so wide, they can handle a wide tire, a 3.0" tire shouldn't be on anything else but a doublewide or something of this size. The wider the rim, the better the performance of the rim. But it all comes down to who strung it...if you are making a wheel for the first time...dont, you'll screw yourself, they are hard to string, so let a pro do them, and get them checked after 25 miles to double check. other than that, these things are rougg and tough rims! | | Weaknesses: | They are no modo's or deemax's but for the price, they are great. I would recommend a Sun doubletrack or an Intense Ma 30 over the Sun Doublewide, but if you want it fat, this is as big as you can get...I am a trials rider myself, so i use 47mm echo and koxx drilled rims, so i know about flat spots and dicking around on rims...and if you dont know how to ride or land right, you will break these rims, or get flat spots... for the price u can import a koxxdrilled rim...which id recommend if you're a fair weather rider, but real downhillers, stick with a dh rim, the drilled rims get the tub wet and you'll get flats all day if you go dhing in the rain.. | | Similar Products Used: | Intense Mag 30, Doubletrack, sun single track, Modo, Maxxis D531 | | Bike Setup: | My dh bike: 2003 Foes DHS Mono, M frame, black, Sun doubletrack rim with a kenda 2.7 on the rear, sun doublewide and an intense 3.0 on the front with the ti-currnet shox and the new Manitou Dorado DH 180 | | Bottom Line: | If you want fat rims, this is for you, if you want something wide, for 2.5+ tires, id reccomend a Mag 30, but the sun doubletrack is pretty much the same thing for about 20 bucks cheaper... if you want to mix it up, go with a doubleTRACK on the rear for strength, then a doubleWIDE on the front with a bigger tire for good control...little weaker, but like 10mm wider, makes a 3.0 or 2.7 tire look like a square, SO NICE!
But if you dont ride hard and just have alot of money...buy 2 doublewides, and pimp out your bike, it looks cooler... | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jeroen van den Hill
a Downhiller
from Breda
Date Reviewed: April 4, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | Bikeparks here @ in Germany. | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$80.00 | | Purchased At: | I purchases a pair secondhand from a friend for 70 euros | | Strengths: | Absolute bombproof, pinchrestitant. Great shockdamping,big footprint, so allot of grip, because your tires are wide and sqaure on thise rims. Looks awesome. def.eyecatcher. | | Weaknesses: | Hard to treu for a mechanic, because of the stifnnes of the rim. Not so fast rolling as smaller rims. With a lighter weight. | | Similar Products Used: | All sort of rims. Usely for xc, these where first big boys for fr and dh. | | Bike Setup: | GT Ruckus 1.0 02 psylo sl tullio. Chris King rear hub.Hope m4 and c2 brakes. Larsen tt's 2.35. xtr, protaper. Ultegra sprocket.11-27 Hg 72 chain. Butterfly pedals or Time-z pedals. | | Bottom Line: | I have used these rims for 2,5 years know, and i have only had a few dents in the rearrim. A couple of times it's has been trued. 2 times. But afterall i love these rims. I have beat the living sh*t out of them. And they still are going strong. I trust my life on them. I go for something that is durable instead of lightweight, wich i have to replace every year. I would by them a second time. Great product, but a bit heavy to. But i got used to that. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
sam mills
a Downhiller
from GLOUSTERSHIRE (UK)
Date Reviewed: January 18, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$55.00 | | Purchased At: | WADES | | Strengths: | EVERY THING!!! THE GREATEST HARDCORE RIMS IVE EVER RIDDEN | | Weaknesses: | BIT HEAVY, SLIGHTLY PRICEY(BUT ITS WORTH IT) | | Similar Products Used: | COMBATS' BFRs, BMFs | | Bike Setup: | KARPIEL ARMAGEDDON, | | Bottom Line: | THEESE RIMS ARE THE DOGS B"%%&^*S ITS HANDELLED 10 foot drops to flat running my tyres at a small 40 PSI with ease, ive been nailing theese rims off rocks, trees, walls and not a single complaint about them they are still as true as the day i bought them. Ive never had to retension the spokes and there holding strong! THEESE RIMS ROCK!!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ben Landry
a Downhiller
from Gatineau, QC, Canada
Date Reviewed: November 25, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | HoneyDrop in Sun Peaks | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$50.00 | | Purchased At: | Dave's Bike Dump (Ottawa) | | Strengths: | Tough, no pinch flats at very low pressures. | | Weaknesses: | Heavy, MSRP is expensive | | Similar Products Used: | Alex DX32, sun double track, Atomlabs trailpimp | | Bike Setup: | 03 Banshee Scream, superT pro | | Bottom Line: | Rim was ridden hard on the front end for 2 years and still going on original build; broke 2 freeride frames using the wheel. Dropped, jumped, XCed, ridden for DH and stunts. Had to re-tension the spokes only once. It has all kinds of little dings on the outside edge buit it still spins true. Great durable product by Sun. The weight is a matter of personal preference; it doesn't prevent you from doing anything, it's a question of feel/personal preference. A great, low maintenance rim for riding rough or rocky terrain: no pinch flats! Too bad they're pretty expensive. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
arran shirovay
a Weekend Warrior
from north wales uk
Date Reviewed: September 8, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | all good | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$45.00 | | Purchased At: | wades | | Strengths: | fat as fu_k | | Weaknesses: | there not free to safe people, pros bah, nonsense. we use these products everyday. | | Similar Products Used: | please do not insult my inteligence by even thinking mavic come into the same relm as d wide .that is utter bollox.french junk. ive had sas, black and the gold, combats, x lite phatso,sun d track[tuff but go brown]shi*ty 321, and sorry to say atomlab dhr, there a joke. | | Bike Setup: | brooklyn racelink 03 monster t ,u no the heavy build 55pounder, the hulk,full fat etc, | | Bottom Line: | like people say no rims and wheels are perfect but ur as close as ur gonna get with these badboys.just remmember these rims will handle anything as long as ur wheel builder is spot on, other wise ur gonna get problems. if they broke tomorrow i would go and buy another set. for weight conciouse riders out there, ur in the wrong catagory, u need cross country,weak jay boys. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dirty
a Downhiller
from Yucapia
Date Reviewed: September 6, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | Any that Prove you can actually ride | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | Yucapia Bike center | | Strengths: | FAT Lays out my 27 tires for Massive traction | | Weaknesses: | scratches easily Likes to tag rocks But what do you want from a rim this wide | | Similar Products Used: | cr 18's rhynolite xl's sun double tracks sun single tracks | | Bike Setup: | Khs fr 1500 fox rear Z150 fr fork douyble wides front and rear (24 inch in rear 26 in front)xt drive train race face cranks | | Bottom Line: | Bottom Line.......i have seen these wheels break and i have seen them hold up the Only difference on if they will is who Built them BOTTOM LINE...i work at a Bike shop Myself this is By far the Strongest rim avaialable IF its Built by someone who has the experience to Build a rim Properly....that means Lacing it Properly Using a tensionometer to check uniformity on tension prestressing EVERY spoke making sure not to OVER tighten the spokes. All the wheel i listed above were hand Built and everyone of them Held up i would recomend any one of them depending on teh application you need of coarse....... for anyone who doubts the strength of these wheels i am a 265 pound rider that like Drops Rouch ruts anything that will Trully test the riders skills and his equipment Just remember anyone who works at a Bike shop for a Living is considered a PRO ..........short for Professional....... to Truly get a good wheel set out of ANY wheel you need to find someone who has been Building them for ten years Plus
i have been learning now for 6 months and were i can do a decent job everytime i build a wheel i learn something new from Our Manager....He has been Building wheels for near 20 years no Plinking first time you ride it no need for retruing the wheel after 25 miles.....as he has taught me if you Prestress the spokes when you Build it right the first time a wheel is Truly ready to Roll
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Submitted by
Daryl
a Weekend Warrior
from Singapore
Date Reviewed: August 6, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | Urban | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | -colour ( too bad there arent white anymore)
-last 4ever
-strength
| | Weaknesses: | -can only use 2.35" tires n above
-heavy but who cares??
-gets dirty easily?? white cant blame....
-cant find excuse to change rims cause it cant spoil
-end up thinking all day of ideas on how to spoil ur rims.. | | Similar Products Used: | Vuelta Excalibur Disc rims | | Bike Setup: | DaBomb XLR8, Bomber fork, XT rd, deore crank n bb, Funn hub, RST disc brake, Azonic stem handle bar, Primo mag pedels.... | | Bottom Line: | Its rox!! been using it 4ever n its perfect... trash it but nv seem to dent... If ur a weight freak forget it... but its rox 4 DH urban n FR bikers... | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
ben
a
from canada
Date Reviewed: July 30, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | anything new -street, skate park, mountain | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$35.00 | | Strengths: | good rim | | Weaknesses: | like all rims they get chewed if you dont land right | | Bike Setup: | norco rampage | | Bottom Line: | all these guys that say they suck and there wet noodles well learn how to land and stop casing the back tire.all the guys that say there indestructible well ride harder and make em wobble. id buy em again. im not gonna give em a perfect cause nothings perfect, not even that guy who says hes a downhiller from ny city. ive been there and its pretty flat. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tom Kelley
a
from Coral Springs, Florida, U.S
Date Reviewed: June 30, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | Urban/local skate park | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$70.00 | | Purchased At: | Racer's Edge | | Strengths: | ummm nothing! | | Weaknesses: | The tiniest,and I mean the tiniest hit you happen to encounter with this wheel will tweak it substantialy. | | Similar Products Used: | ditch witch,single track,intense mag 30 | | Bike Setup: | azonic steelhead(s.s. set-up),saint cranks,26"single track front,24"intense mag in the back,and alot of other goodies. | | Bottom Line: | i'm starting off saying that i love sun rims.they're strong light and look the part.that's why when building my urban bike i bought a 24" double wide to finish the rear.after building the bike up for a month, the first ride was cut short by the wobble of my(bomb proof)back rim.the funny thing is that i have no idea how it happened the jumps and drops i landed wouldn't have broke a road bike rim,but it did a number on the double wide.not only was it bent(side to side)but it also had huge hop.i thought i was dreaming when i saw it.so i made a b-line back to the bike shop. when they saw the rim they couldn't believe it either.they got most of the bend out but the hop was impossiable to fix.and by the way the tire was inflated to 50psi,the spokes were tight,and the rim was laced by a pro.other than the wheel being as strong as wet noodle the rim was great! anyone complaining about the weight of the rim bought it for the wrong reasons.so anyone who wants a double wide save yourself the trouble and go with the intense mag 30. believe me i don't like writing bad reviews unless products truly deserve it. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
erick
a Cross Country Rider
from olympia, wa
Date Reviewed: December 18, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | deep creel | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$55.00 | | Purchased At: | jensonusa.com | | Strengths: | DOUBLEWIDE!! The best way to mount those fatty tires. | | Weaknesses: | None thus far. | | Similar Products Used: | Singletrack, WTB, etc. | | Bike Setup: | GSR Hooligan DH HT | | Bottom Line: | I run this rim up front because I like the extra stablity that a more parallel and stiffer sidewall gives the bike. My Doublewide and 2.65 Kujo tire combination are shaped more like a "U" than a "V" because this rim is so wide. I had this 2.65 tire on a Sun Singletrack rim and it just didn't look or feel right. If you want to run the fatties, ya gotta get the wider rim. Just makes sense. With a DH tube in this front tire and this pinch resistant Doublewide rim, I have not had one flat in the past four months. I ain't easy on my equipment and this rim is lasting thus far. Don't worry about the weight or the rolling mass, you'll get used to it and adapt accordingly. It might even make you a better rider. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave Pugh
a Downhiller
from Mission
Date Reviewed: November 12, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | Dirt Merchant | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$50.00 | | Purchased At: | Lifecycles | | Strengths: | EXTREMELY good side to side strenge. Will stay straight no matter what. Looks WICKED. Makes tires grip 10x better, because it spreads the tread out. | | Weaknesses: | Flat spots VERY easily, even on little things. | | Similar Products Used: | Rhyno Lite, Doubletrack, Singletrack, Alex MT28 | | Bike Setup: | 2003 Norco VPS A-Line, Monster T2, | | Bottom Line: | Very "cool" rim but not necessarily the best. I bought it thinking that since it was the biggest of the Sun rims, it would be the best, not true. Only reason I dont regret buying it was because i got it half price since it was the only white one that the shop had. GREAT feeling rim when first put on the bike, feels solid and strong, Great improvement in the tire grip since the change in width. Under a week of riding, LOTS of flat spots. I didnt even ride it as sketchy or hard as my old Rhynolites that I had on my old bike. I think that the Width helps in keeping them straight but the shallowness of the rim doesnt do alot for the flatting. Overall, Id say go for a DoubleTrack Or a MAG30. You may get a bit of side to side bending but thats fixable unlike flats. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Steven
a Downhiller
from VT
Date Reviewed: May 22, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$55.00 | | Strengths: | Well made rim from the Heartland. | | Weaknesses: | Like all Sun rims...can be a b*tch getting tires on & off of. MC tire levers work well, though. | | Similar Products Used: | Rhyno Lite XL, Mavic | | Bike Setup: | Rotec DH Pro, Stratos MX6, Kooka cranks, 8" rotors, flat pedals.... | | Bottom Line: | So much of a rims strength can be traced back to the overall quality of the wheel build. If you have the wheel purpose built by a competent wheel builder, these rims can be VERY strong as will be the wheel. I've never had any problems keeping them true or knocking them out of round and no one is ever going to accuse me of being a finesse rider.
Now, if they could only make tire mounting and removal a tad bit easier. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Iam
a Downhiller
from Leicestershire, U.K.
Date Reviewed: May 20, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | Badby Woods | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$60.00 | | Purchased At: | Bromley Bike Co | | Strengths: | Wide for proper sized tyres!
Super strong! | | Weaknesses: | The paint has chipped slightly - but so would you, if you thrashed around! | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic 521s & 321s, PX BMFs, Rigida DP22s | | Bike Setup: | 03 BigHit DH with 03 Monster Ts, Goldtec Hubs, Plain gauge DT spokes (hand threaded) | | Bottom Line: | These rims are still the strongest on the market, know matter what the magasines say! I'm running 24" D.W.s front and rear and I KNOW I can ride anything without the worry of folding! Landing bad Whips, even Ghosting my old bike!
Mavic Shmavic - Don't waste your time!
The pros ride that wasted alloy cos they get paid too!
I've ran them down a French WC course whilst my mates were pushing down coz of Flats on their 2.2" tyres and 321s.
Get it right first time! I learnt second!
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Submitted by
Willy Bartlett
a
from Colville, Wa 99114
Date Reviewed: April 27, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | Willy's Shop | | Strengths: | Just look at them they are huge, I can put on my 3" gazzi with one cheesy tire lever,. they are Bullit proof even at low pressure. Easy to build, and they are badass black. Also if you knock a wheel out of true , you gotta re-tension the spokes or it just gets worse, and flat spots are from stupid landings, too low of pressure, or stupid landings. Remeber that when you read peoples reviews any thing you don't maintain will break, hell anything that goes on a freeride bike will break look what we do on these sutpid things. | | Weaknesses: | weight, they are a little heavy, if this bothers you go to your local shop and purchase some new titanium bar ends, or ride more and build those girly little muscles | | Similar Products Used: | sun mammoths rhyno lite | | Bike Setup: | 2003 stinky primo, jr. t, Truvative hussies, hayes 8", and a kickstand | | Bottom Line: | buy em and ride em' | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tim Smith
a Downhiller
from Sheffield England
Date Reviewed: November 28, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$70.00 | | Purchased At: | o-zone cycles | | Strengths: | It`s black | | Weaknesses: | the paint chips too easily | | Similar Products Used: | another sun doublewide | | Bike Setup: | Identiti Dr.Jeckyl,rear Sun Doublewide 200 drop off, planetX cranks, hope disk, 24" Halo, 2.6"and 3" gazzaloddis | | Bottom Line: | i sed to do the fattest whips jumping when i had that bike, becasue i knew i didn`t have to bother taking the back end round again-i`d just land crooked. Taht Rim was the Dog`s B*ll*x-i`d do anything without worrying about bending my back rim. lil on the hefty side, lil lot`s on the strong side | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Colin
a Downhiller
from Santa Cruz, California
Date Reviewed: November 17, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Mailbox/water towers | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$90.00 | | Purchased At: | rear wheel 24" laced to grimeca hub | | Strengths: | Damn tough! Takes any beating you cna trhow at it, wide, looks cool, black for no rim breaks. Put any size tire on | | Weaknesses: | hard to get tires on | | Similar Products Used: | Momentum rims from Azonics wheels. (better) | | Bike Setup: | Kona chute, psylo race (blah), that rear wheel, 24" rhyno lite front, shimano deore hycraulics. | | Bottom Line: | A great rim you can trhow anything at it not very expensive if your on a budget. I highly recommend it. Downhillers yes, XC no, urban assault yes, trials HAH! you better knwo that one! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
mike
a Downhiller
from nyc
Date Reviewed: August 23, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$50.00 | | Strengths: | strong...looks bad ass... NEVER goes out of true...cheap | | Weaknesses: | they don't go out of trye they just snap in half | | Similar Products Used: | Mag 30..mamooth(great DH rim) | | Bike Setup: | big one | | Bottom Line: | many ppl say that these rims bralk without a warning cuz they are not heat trated.. look at my little chart bellow and decide if they are right for u
Double Wide Atomic Lab trail pimp
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cause/effect
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porrly langed nothing nothing
10 footer
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poorly landed
15 fotter nothing sightly goes out of true
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poorly landed
20 footer nothing even more out of true
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poorly landed they DIE if the spokes were
30 footer (brek in half) tioned well u might
b albe to fix these
u get my point???? THESE DON'T BEND, THEY BREAK i don't think it's a bad thing considering the fact than it's not in very near future that i'm gonna do a 30 fotter..
i LOVE these rims..i never had to true them...even tho i ride really hard(central park..and plattekill)
bottom line....great rim for a great price | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Cory Bell
a Weekend Warrior
from Iqaluit, Baffin Island Canada
Date Reviewed: June 14, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Meta Incognita | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$80.00 | | Purchased At: | Pecco's in Ottawa | | Strengths: | Big Wide rim, Disc Specific | | Weaknesses: | Weakness is only depended of your style of riding. Great for DH/DS/FR | | Similar Products Used: | Sun Mammoth | | Bike Setup: | FSR Extreme Frame w/Z1 Dropoff 5" travel. Gazz 3.0, 8" hayes. Costum parts from www.betd.com (Rob is the coolest) | | Bottom Line: | If you are interested in this rim and ride hard, I wouldn't pay attention to the two comments below!!! This rim is strong. I ride Baffin Island were there are no trails, just massive amounts of rock and tundra with huge drops and long technical dh runs.
The bottom line is that this rim as any rim needs to be built right. So make sure you have a great wheel builder at your local shop or find one.
By the way, I've rode this rim for 1 year now with no truing. Besides, my local mechanic is 1500 miles away. in Ottawa. GET THIS RIM!!!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
mike
a Weekend Warrior
from Hull,Quebec
Date Reviewed: May 30, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | mostly urban assaullt lately | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$110.00 | | Purchased At: | tommy&lefefbre | | Strengths: | NONE !!! Absolutely the weakest peice of sh$#&@#*!!!T rims you could buy! I run 3 inch tires and still cracked the seam twice plus they flat spot so easily it's pathetic.They are supposed to be for downhilling...HA!!! After one run they will be more square than round!Also the company won't warranty unless it is for a manufactured defect...the design IS a friggin defect!!!My freind all ride trials with semi-flat tires and they slam other rims off brutal edges all the time and their rims don't flat spot. | | Weaknesses: | seam splits in two days and flat spot pathetically even with 3 inch tires and good air pressure!!! | | Similar Products Used: | rhyno lytes(lasted longer than these!) | | Bike Setup: | 2001 Big Hit with rear travel custom upgraded to 10 inches...Stratos S-8 fork,tons of other goodies. | | Bottom Line: | Honestly pathetic performance...flex free side to side but eggshell WAAAAAY to easily.Completely dissapointed.Going to try intense mag 30's next...wish me luck!!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
jamie
a Downhiller
from boulder
Date Reviewed: May 27, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | redrum | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$75.00 | | Purchased At: | cambria | | Strengths: | they look pretty cool.all the flat spots make a rad moto sound | | Weaknesses: | not circles for very long | | Similar Products Used: | play-doh,pasta,dog poop,twizzler | | Bike Setup: | super 8 ,monster,profile and most important 24 ATOMIC TRAILPIMPS | | Bottom Line: | the bottom line is in most of these reviews everybody complained of flat spots. if you dont want flat spots dont get DWs. trailpimps cant be beat | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Shane
a Racer
from Vancouver, BC
Date Reviewed: May 2, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Boogieman | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$75.00 | | Purchased At: | Cove Bike Shop | | Strengths: | strong, doesnt bend or taco | | Weaknesses: | really none unless your a xc rider then it'll be to heavy for you | | Similar Products Used: | Mamoths, 314's | | Bike Setup: | Rm9 with shivers and hayes 8 inch on both | | Bottom Line: | if your a mid-sized downhill racer who doesnt care about climbing performance this is the perfect rim for ya. but remember this tire is best with a tire wider than 2.5 and you need a disc alwell | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
dan oh
a Weekend Warrior
from san jose
Date Reviewed: April 21, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | the ones with dirt | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$175.00 | | Purchased At: | with wheel and discs from trader | | Strengths: | Looks very tough. Has been abused and is still in perfect true. VERY LIGHT. I have been using xc wheels that go out of true over 1.5 foot drops. These weigh a lot more, but what do you expect cumparing an xc wheel. I still think these are really easy to throw around and climb with. | | Weaknesses: | there are little it bitty bulges cuming out of the sides. can't really describe, but efect the performance in NO way, yet.
little expensive too. I find this rim online in the 30-45$ range. | | Similar Products Used: | nuthin this tough | | Bike Setup: | schwinn rocket, ew, gettin sumthin new | | Bottom Line: | oh cmon guys, they are very light. i have mine set up with a julu hub and 14/15 guage spokes, plus the intense 50 comp 2.35 with all the tread is on it. it weighs exactly 6lbs... remeasures... now 9.5 lbs.... hmmm, i think my scale is broken... i will have to get back to you on this weight thing. less just say it is pretty lite. it prolly only weighs 1-1.5 lbs more than a xc wheel, than again i have a 2.35 tire compared to a 2.1 tire. also i have much heavier tubes. If you are getting a freeride/ dh rim, this is pretty tough. I will give you an update in about 3-6 months after i get a good measure on the weight and after i have more run time on it. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
dima
a Downhiller
from Brooklyn NY
Date Reviewed: March 13, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Central Park, Manhattan | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$200.00 | | Purchased At: | forgot | | Strengths: | They are strong | | Weaknesses: | weight, but you pay for the beef | | Similar Products Used: | mamooth- good and light racing rims | | Bike Setup: | TMX-most of you know what comes with TMX | | Bottom Line: | I read lotsa crappy reviews about these rims(braking without warning) and still bougth them and i'm not sorry.
about a week ago i was doing a 40 feet double and i went too fast, flew too high and too far, missed the landing and nose dived(my monster T's didn't help) well.... my bike got away with only one major injury- i bent upper legs on my monsters(if i had my old big-hit i probably would have turned the 4-bar into a 6 bar linkage and tore off the head tube).
I on the other hand suffered a lot- concussion, broken wrist, broken jaw(where was my fillface helmet?), both shoulders dislocated.
when i was lying there on the ground bleeding i was already thinking about what frame and what components i should buy next(i didn't expect these to survive) but when i saw my bike i was really surprised, i checked the front wheel and it had only about 1/4 of an inch out of true, and i think that's pretty good considering the fact that i bent the tubes on my fork.
Bottom Line is.. if i ever break these i'll buy them again | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ralphi
a Downhiller
from Cheyenne, WY USA
Date Reviewed: March 11, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Insane amounts of side to side stiffness compared to another rim. Holds up allright. Stiffness again. Looks burly. | | Weaknesses: | Well, Doublewides are not heat treated, and while being laterally stiff, they tend to dent up and egg out REALLY easily. Even running correct air pressure. | | Similar Products Used: | Not yet, but soon will try Arrow or Intense rim. | | Bike Setup: | TMX. Risse Champ 8" with upgraded upper tubes (basically a shorter Bigfoot), Doublewides, 3" tires, Hayes brakes, Shinburgers,Profiles, etc. | | Bottom Line: | Okay-I've had my rear 24" Doublewide for about four months. It is a pretty bad sight. Sure they stay true, but they egg out real easy, and I can plainly see plenty of spots where they are dented in. My front 26" Doublewide is cracked at the weld. Hopefully they warranty. And I never run real low pressure with 3 inchers. I don't know if anything else will do any better, but soon I will try Arrows and or Intense for the rear wheel. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
George
a Weekend Warrior
from CT
Date Reviewed: March 4, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | These things are beefy as hell ive had em for 6 months and ive only had to true them both once, you can feel theyre strength plowing through stuff downhilling fast and they just dont bend | | Weaknesses: | i have only gotten one flat spot in back doin an 8 footer to flat with a rear wheel landing but i cant complain cause ive tacoed mavics off of 5 footers with perfect landings | | Similar Products Used: | mavics (dunno what kind) not that strong though | | Bike Setup: | yeti dh 4 wiht mr dirt fork, all thick components | | Bottom Line: | these rims are worth the money theyll stand up to any abuse and wont get bent on hard landings or when you case it, only problem i had was the flat spot, so ill give them 4 flamin chilis | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
cameron
a Downhiller
from chapelhill nc usa
Date Reviewed: February 25, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$80.00 | | Purchased At: | bike shop | | Strengths: | wide | | Weaknesses: | rims are made of 6000 alu ,that makes it soft and heavy ,flat spots easy (with low air pressure)and cracks at the seem . i have destoyed 6 . time for a new brand | | Similar Products Used: | mavic , | | Bike Setup: | super8, monster t profiles,3 0 nokians 24" front and rear ,azonic chubbys ,hammer stem,avalanch dhs shock and all the good stuff | | Bottom Line: | rims are just to soft alu need to be 7000 series .turn into eggs off big hits | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
evil kev
a Downhiller
from Manchester, England
Date Reviewed: February 9, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | anywhere anytime!!! | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$40.00 | | Purchased At: | a mate | | Strengths: | Big and strong!!!
| | Weaknesses: | nothing really!! | | Similar Products Used: | crappy french mavic sh!t | | Bike Setup: | self-built frame live a tmx but better!!!!! | | Bottom Line: | weight=strength!!!! strong as hell got mine built onto hope big `uns no complaints! well except from the neighbours coz i keep on riding off their shed roof!!!
handels everything from shed roofs to staircases to fast DH runs with ease, had em longer than my mavics and not had to re-true them once!!!!
basicly they are REAL STREET, HARDCORE RIMS!!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Leland
a Downhiller
from San Luis Obispo, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: January 10, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Mammoth- bullet and velocity | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | got a bike used, came on it | | Strengths: | They will hold up fine. I hit a 12 foot drop and didn't brake anything, not even a spoke. Cool looking, hehe. | | Weaknesses: | Kinda heavy but DUHHH! | | Similar Products Used: | not that i can remember | | Bike Setup: | phycle werks Mad Dog, hayes 8", monster t, fox float TC, azonic and intense stuff | | Bottom Line: | Very nice, cheap, around 60 bucks. If you are a downhiller and have big tires, go get a pair!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tim Smith
a Downhiller
from Sheffield ENGLAND
Date Reviewed: December 7, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Chainbreaker | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$60.00 | | Purchased At: | O-Zone | | Strengths: | Damn strong. Reassuringly weighty, Don`t read the s**t people about `em busting-I`m a dirtjumper and ride heavy and have only ever bust 2 spokes by riding along. You know that whatever you hit with your back end-you`ll be fine. | | Weaknesses: | Heavy-only bad for dirt jumping. I only have one one the back and find that it`s really hard to nosedive with it, or whip the backend out. | | Similar Products Used: | Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, nope. | | Bike Setup: | 24" Identiti, Z1 Droppoff, Front Halo R Doublwide, Planet x cranks (buy them, they`re good)+ Gazzaloddis | | Bottom Line: | Ok, strong only expect to buy 1 pair if built up good. Would be ideal for DH racing/Hardcore street gaps /steps/ them wicked top-of biulding-to-downslope drops. Suppose they`d be good for jumping if you had F+R double wides and weren`t to bothered about jumping high, or if you just go for limbless tricks instead. Hard to jump with only 1 on the back end. HAVE TO KEEP THEM CLEAN AND SHINEY SO THEY WILL ALWAYS LOOK COOL. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Urban Nightmare
a
from Portland, Oregon, USA
Date Reviewed: October 14, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | streets of portland | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | bike gallery | | Strengths: | everything, there big, there heavy, there strong as hell, although they do have a tendancy to slightly oval out a bitfrom normal wear and tear but thats not trealy noticeable when riding. | | Weaknesses: | to many people whine about them being heavy, i ride supea r-8 with a monster-t 51lbs of fun do i whine about the weight of it hell NO cause i know it will hold up. | | Similar Products Used: | none on this bike | | Bike Setup: | 2000 SantaCruz Super-8,2001 monster-T, 8inch hayes f/r, kona buldge crank arms, 24inch double wide rear, 26inch double wide front with santacruz/hadley hubs | | Bottom Line: | theese rims are the strongest ever made so far, even thought i flat spotted and turned my front rim into an egg and blew 9 spokes i still think there the strongest made and the reason they failed was cause of a couple loose spokes and thats my fault for not checking them, i have a buddy who races and hes cracked 2 tomac DH rims, intense mags, those POS vuelta anti snake bit rims, and hes also cracked a marin Team DH, and a cortina DH, and he has the same double wide rims for that last 3 years since he started racing and everytime another rim fails he goes back to the double wides and i think hes done trying out other rims. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Franky Time
a Downhiller
from VT
Date Reviewed: October 6, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Mt Snow any | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$500.00 | | Purchased At: | hand built | | Strengths: | Strength and looks...I ride the smaller 24" wheel format....I have NO idea what the negative reviews are all about below. Never had a single problem with them. | | Weaknesses: | Heavy? I think that one could expect that before going ahead and buying them. I can't consider that a weakness. 36 spoke, 24" wheels are strong as Hell (especially so on the RIGHT hubs...what type of hubs are you folks running?) | | Similar Products Used: | None......there are NO 24" wheelsets like this out there. | | Bike Setup: | Shockwave/24" doublewides/AVALANCHE rear shock/ Monster T'/...... | | Bottom Line: | Buy the 36 spoke version no matter what size, but run 24's and I doubt that you will EVER have a "catastrophic" problem with them (as one reviewer wrote below)..it all sounds like the typical "jump on the band wagon bashing" that starts on this site whenever one person begins trashing an item.
I gap staircases in urban settings, drop boulders and chutes in the woods, and have run DH courses at 4 different mountains with these wheels and have never had any problems. It's the one part of my bike that never seems to need any attention. If you want strong burly looking wheels, then buy the doublewides. Don't listen to the negativity. That's just my opinion. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Reindeer Blower
a Downhiller
from Maine
Date Reviewed: September 21, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Lasted through 10 months of abuse.... | | Weaknesses: | ...then suddenly died after landing a big double onto big rocks.3 busted spokes up front,6 out back,a BIG flat spot out back and both warped beyond true.This fu$king sucks! | | Bike Setup: | Brooklyn TMX | | Bottom Line: | Call me a dumbass,but the reviews were right.I thought these rims were totally indestructible.They survived through 10 months of all-out thrashing without needing a truing...
And then they died,very suddenly.This really blows.My bike has 7" travel front,10" in the rear,properly inflated 3" tires,and a 170-lb competent rider/racer on board...and the damn things still broke catastrophically.The wheels were freaking HAND-BUILT!!!I even checked the spoke tension after every DH race!!There was no reason for them to die in such an explosive manner,without warning.Scary.
Guess I'm going back to 26" Mammoths.May need an occasional truing every now and then,but at least I know I can trust them. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jonathan Newell
a Weekend Warrior
from Canada
Date Reviewed: August 19, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | fun ones | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | HUB CYCLE | | Strengths: | real wide, able to put a fat tire on the rims | | Weaknesses: | well, i was just riding around and i sttempted like a 5er onto cement, i basically manualed down the stairs and smashed my front rim, and that ones perfect, my rear 24" doublewide broke 4 spokes and ovalized the rim... so what am i supposed to do now? | | Similar Products Used: | none really | | Bike Setup: | norco 250cc stock | | Bottom Line: | im an aggressive rider so... but the spokes loosen fast and they broke on me. really beefy, but maybe too over hyped. maybe im just a little too hard on my things.
does anyone know forsure about a sweet rim, that wont bend? id love to know about it. e mail me please if u do blunt_28@hotmail.com | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Shane Spencer
a Downhiller
from Terrace BC
Date Reviewed: August 13, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Bullet proof | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$35.00 | | Purchased At: | All seasons | | Strengths: | Great tire foot print, they will hold the tire on with 5 psi. They stay true, very good marketing done by Sun with the strongest rim ever made crap. I got suckered in. | | Weaknesses: | Flat spoting, 800grams of rotational weight, which wouldn't be a big deal if they were twice as strong as 321's which are 500g. But there | | Similar Products Used: | 321's
521's
lites
big mamothes
| | Bike Setup: | Norco Team Dh, shivers, 24" in the back, 2.7 maxxis high rollers | | Bottom Line: | Why big them? | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Reindeer Blower
a Weekend Warrior
from Maine
Date Reviewed: August 7, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$60.00 | | Purchased At: | Bike shop | | Strengths: | Beefy,heavy,and WIDE!3" tire compatible!These rims are sooo strong!Every one here either whines about how heavy they are(please--they're DH rims,jackass--they're gonna be heavy),or how easy they are to flat-spot,which is also bull--I ride my TMX like I stole it(15-foot drops,occasional house drops,BIIIG gaps,DH racing),and they haven't come out of true once!Made in the US by a great company.I got mine in KIWI!! | | Weaknesses: | WIDE!!Tires less than 2.4" are gonna be real hard to fit.Best used as a 36-spoke rim,which adds a bit of weight,but that's okay.If you're using them like they're supposed to be used(DH racing and extreme abuse),you really won't care about weight. | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic 321 DH(Please!Died in 2 months!),Sun Mammoth,Rhyno Lite | | Bike Setup: | Brooklyn TMX | | Bottom Line: | So many people rave how the Frenchies make a better rim.Please!I mounted Mavic 321's on my Super-8 a year ago and they bit the dust in TWO MONTHS.Pathetic!I threw a set of Mammoths on that bike and they lasted perfectly right up until I sold it this year.I am a Sun customer for life...
..Oh,yeah,we're reviewing the Doublewide right?This is a great rim.After 6 months of all-out thrashing I haven't put a dent in the things(scratched the hell out of the finish though).As to the people who get flat spots--do you REALLY put air in your tires?Retards.
I give these rims 5 nuclear shi&s | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
mikey mak
a Cross Country Rider
from mmmmmm.......cack
Date Reviewed: July 8, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Bottom Line: | good rims......so lite too......way liter then my mavic 517's........ | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
DR. DRE
a Weekend Warrior
from BOOGIE-DOWN PRODUCTIONZ
Date Reviewed: June 28, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | STEEP AND TECHNICAL!!! | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$80.00 | | Purchased At: | SID'S BIKE SHOP, N.Y.C. | | Strengths: | WIDTH | | Weaknesses: | FLAT SPOT TOOOOOOOO EASILY. | | Similar Products Used: | MAVIC, SUN: MAMMOTH, SUV, ETC | | Bike Setup: | '01 BIG HIT FRAME WITH HOPE O2'S AND HUBS AZONIC, XTR, NORTH SHORE CRANKS, EASTON AND THOMSON. Z1. | | Bottom Line: | THESE RIMS REALLY SURPRISED ME. I HAVEN'T EVEN HAD THEM FOR A MONTH AND THEY HAVE ALREADY GOT A FLAT SPOT IN THEM. I DID A 6FT. DROP AND FLATTED THE RIM AND BROKE 6 SPOKES. I COULDN'T BELEIVE IT. IF YOU WANT A HEAVY DUTY RIM GET MAVIC'S. I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN EM BUT MY REAR ONLY TAKES A 24INCH WHEEL AND THEY DON'T MAKE MAVIC IN 24 INCH. IF ANYONE KNOWS ABOUT SOME BOMBPROOF WHEELS THAT COME IN 24 PLEASE E-MAIL ME. AND IF YOUR A SUPER AGGRESIVE RIDER DON'T GET THESE. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
PAV
a Racer
from CANADA
Date Reviewed: June 28, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Wide, Color's are cool, seem to be strong | | Weaknesses: | i broke mine completely in 3 weeks... not only have i flatspotted it, i even broke the spokes! i got them on my 250cc so i never put new tires on yet (i'm waiting for new rims to arrive) | | Similar Products Used: | Mammoth | | Bike Setup: | 250cc stock | | Bottom Line: | these rims are good, and it's kinda my fault that they broke, but they shouldn't have broken that easily (it wasn't that huge of a drop)
don't get them in 32hole cuz those are s h i t, that's why they broke, get 36
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Submitted by
Agent Z
a Downhiller
from Saratoga, CA
Date Reviewed: June 10, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Look cool, very wide | | Weaknesses: | Flat spot easily
Heavy
Paint chips
Hard to get tires on | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic D521
Mavic 121
Mavic 321
Sun Rhyno Lite
Sun Mammoth | | Bike Setup: | Karpiel Armageddon
Stratos SS8
Hayes/Hugi Hubs (36 hole F/R)
14 guage spokes
Brass nipples | | Bottom Line: | These rims do not live up to their reputation. That is why Jenson USA and other mail order companies are selling them for only $55, down from their original $80+ retail price, whereas they are selling mavics for the full retail price of $80 for 521 CD and $90 for 321s.
I flatspotted my front rim after doing a couple stair gaps. The gaps were 20 feet long, but the rims shouldn't have bent that easily. I had arrow 3.0 tires and a Stratos Superstar 8 to cushion the landing.
I'm replacing the rims with Mavic D521 CD rims and will be mounting some of those sweet michelin 2.8s on it. My old mavic 121, a very similar rim, is still holding up great on my dirtjumping hardtail, and it's had its fair share of big hits. (and it's 4 years old!) | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Greg Parish
a
from Tofino/okanogan
Date Reviewed: April 27, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Streets of Bologna Italy | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$60.00 | | Purchased At: | lot's of stores | | Strengths: | Look cool, hold 2.4 tires and up very tight. Very strong rims and I ride hardtail all the way so I've taco'd every rim out there, garaunteed when I mess up. Thick and heavy giving you confidence that they will be there when you land. If you are a gram shaver with low cut socks go bend some rhino lites. All the power to ya! | | Weaknesses: | Tend to give pinch flats and flat spots too often if you don't keep the right pressure in the tires. side walls too low. Other that they can hold up. | | Similar Products Used: | most rims out there as I've progressed and learnt the hard way buying cheap rims to save 20 bucks. | | Bike Setup: | 2000 modified Brodie Big Shot with Avro rims and a 2001 Holeshot stock exept cranks, b bracket and rims (doubles). | | Bottom Line: | Why does every one complain about the weight? Just re-learn how to throw your bike around and you will get used to these rims in a week. As far as I'm concerned the best rims I have yet to destroy is a Avro. I bought A set in Italy when visiting. I blew my Ditch Witch sun rims out on a stair drop. The local bike shops had nothing for me exept this massive yellow rim that looked like pure steel. I had no choice, I bought it thinking it was crap. 8 months and 2 frames later I still have them. They look like crap with all the flat spots and chipped yellow paint but have never even been tweaked out yet. I only ride Doubles since I can't find a canadian dealer for Avro yet, but doubles can hold there own if they are built up right. Just run them with a fat tire 2.5 and up, if your flatting them out to much your air pressure and tire size need to be increased. If any one knows of Avro rims in N America email me. Cheers! www.in_format.it/greg/ is my cheesy italian made web page with shots of me beating my rims up. Theres a gallery with pictures mostly from Italy but click on the link button then onto the symbol to see a few pictures of some stairs that were also done in Cranked 2 (the Italy scenes at saint luca church) I was hucking to flat on my hardtail, in the vid they are just rolling into them with the fullies. STAY HARD. If any one wants to buy that bike let me know. Cheers, SORRY FOR USING THIS SITE TO SELL MY BIKE! HA HA ,LACE EM' TIGHT | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Collin
a Downhiller
from Abbotsford
Date Reviewed: April 3, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Grouse or Urban | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$60.00 | | Strengths: | Looks cool | | Weaknesses: | NOT that strong, Flat spot extremely easily and the paint flakes off. Stupid heavy. | | Similar Products Used: | Rhino Lite, Mavic D521 | | Bike Setup: | 2001 Super Eight w/ WB DH2, 26"(Mavic D521)front, 24" doublewide rear. | | Bottom Line: | This rim sucks, too heavy, not strong enough for the amount of weight and they look like garbage if you nick them on any rock(at least in black). I'm going to try the Atomic Trailpimps, they're supposed to be lighter and stronger. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Joel
a Weekend Warrior
from vancouver
Date Reviewed: February 26, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | dirt jumping | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$55.00 | | Purchased At: | can't tell | | Strengths: | strong, fat, look cool | | Weaknesses: | heavy if you like dirt jumping or pedaling alot, and if you are a shaved leg special xc racer don't even bother | | Similar Products Used: | 321s (awesome rims they should make em in 24") all kinds of others | | Bike Setup: | planet-x bommer, z1 qr20, 24" doublewides f/r, 3.0 kujo, 2.75 arrow, 3 piece cranks, magura gustavs and xt disc brakes, all bombproof and strong a$$ parts. | | Bottom Line: | good wheels, strong, too heavy but they have to be heavy to be this strong, fit fat tires nicely, make 24" rims as well, they are relitively cheap for what you are getting, | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
jeff
a Downhiller
from UTAH
Date Reviewed: December 24, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | the width,the name, i love big wide tires not the weak 2.35's. these were ment for huge knobbies not xc weak tires.
| | Weaknesses: | NONE they are the best | | Similar Products Used: | mammoth(weak) hed. mavic deemax etc... | | Bike Setup: | trek pro issue DH boxxer hayes azonic | | Bottom Line: | these rims are indestructable. the people that say they are too heavy should just grow some BALLS and train harder. the person that traded these out for mammoths is not the brightest star in the sky. these rims take a lickin and keep on tickin. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Adam
a Downhiller
from South Wales, UK
Date Reviewed: December 7, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$75.00 | | Purchased At: | Race Doctor (UK) | | Strengths: | Strong as hell, Wide, | | Weaknesses: | Tyres can behard to get on! | | Similar Products Used: | D521's, Planet X BMF, | | Bike Setup: | Yep. | | Bottom Line: | Who cares about weight. If I'm riding off a 7ft+ drop I don't care how heavy they are! These rims are bomb proof, and laced upto a decent set of hubs they make an indestructible wheelset. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Chris
a Weekend Warrior
from Montreal
Date Reviewed: November 23, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | WC at Bromont (fun) | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Really wide so you get an awesome profile with 2.6-3.0 tires. Strong as hell although I managed to bend my front rim during a crash...I was really surprised. I guess it was a really hard crash. | | Weaknesses: | A little on the heavy side. But that kind of width and strength, they have to be heavy. But is does suck when you have to sorta pedal a bit on a flat or slight-uphill section of a trail. | | Similar Products Used: | -Sun Mammoth (awesome, just need to be a little wider)
-Mavic 321cd (awesome too! Only have good things to say about them)
-Mavic 521cd (awesome, strong. A little narrow) | | Bike Setup: | Long story.... | | Bottom Line: | Amazing rims. I don't race so I don't know if they'd slow you down or not. I've been running a 24" rear and 26" front and I never bent them at all except for a big crash I took. Unfortunatly, there are a couple flat spots and uphill spots on the DH trails I do at a local Mt. and it's a b!tch to pedal these wheels...especially with Gazz tires. But, the weight is an acceptable trade-off for strength and width. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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AL'S FATTY
a
from 3R
Date Reviewed: September 4, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | TOUGH, TOUGH, TOUGH!! | | Weaknesses: | IF YOUR A WEIGHT CONSCIOUS WENNIE WHIMP, THEN MAYBE THE WEIGHT? | | Similar Products Used: | SUN MAMMOTH, RHINO LITE, MAVIC JUNK | | Bike Setup: | YOU BET COWBOY! | | Bottom Line: | I SEE SOME PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE WEIGHT. LOOK FRUITCAKE'S, IT'S A DOWNHILL RIM. CAN YOU SAY DOWNHILL KIDDIES? WATCH MR. ROGERS AND LEARN. IF YOUR NOT TOO BRIGHT, HERE'S THE FORMULA: STRENGTH = WEIGHT. STRENGTH + ABILITY = SPEED. GOT IT! YOU WANT TO DOWNHILL WITH A LITE, WHIMPY LITTLE 28mm RIM, THEN DO SO, BUT SAVE SOME TIME EVERY DAY WHILE YOUR IN THE HOSPITAL TO TRUE IT. THESE RIMS WORK. THERE WIDE, SOLID, AND WAY BETTER AND CHEAPER THAN MAVIC 321'S. TRUE, THE TIRE IS A LITTLE HARD TO GET ON AND OFF ON ALL SUN RIMS, BUT IF YOU GOT A FLAT DOWNHILLING, WOULDN'T YOU WANT THE TIRE TO STAY ON? YOU DON'T NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT ONE. SIMPLY PUT THEY'RE AWESOME!! TRY EM'. YOU WON'T BE LEFT HANGIN' | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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KYle
a Downhiller
from Granite Bay, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: July 4, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | North Star, Secret Trail, Tunnel Trail | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | -Easy Tire Changes
-Fits Huge Tires Well
-Nothing Really | | Weaknesses: | -Not Strong
-Too Wide
-Can't Fit 2.35 Tires Well
-Ugly Looking unless you get White or Kawi Green
-HEAVY
-EXPENSIVE
-Flatted Easy | | Similar Products Used: | Mammoths ( what i switched too, they are way better ), Rhyno Lites, Azonic Butchers | | Bike Setup: | RM9, Poilshed Monster T, MRP, Hayes, Mammoths, Hadley Hubs, Maxxis Tires, Sram 9.0sl, and North Shore XS Cranks | | Bottom Line: | THESE RIMS SUCK....THEY ARE TOO HEAVY, NOT THAT STRONG, UGLY LOOKING IN BLACK COLOR, CAN'T FIT SMALL TIRES. THEY ARE 85 BUCKS A RIM. GET A SET OF MAMMOTHS FOR THAT MUCH. I SWITCHED TO MAMMOTHS AND YOU SHOULD TOO. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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John
a
from victoria
Date Reviewed: June 20, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | organ donor | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | STRONG
wide
not as heavy as people say
look damn cool
super resistant to flats (as in tires) | | Weaknesses: | a touch heavy, but not that bad at all | | Similar Products Used: | Mammoths, rhyno's, mavic deemax (SUCK) etc... | | Bike Setup: | Brodie 8 Ball (DOPE frame) doublewides (24/26 inch) kooka stuff, some black spire, boxxer etc... | | Bottom Line: | These are rims that are made to last. they cost a fair amount (85, 90 bucks) but will never taco like my mammoths did. You will snap frames before these rims, provided they are laced right. build em up and enjoy beefin' rims! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Rob Brown
a Racer
from Orange County, CA
Date Reviewed: May 5, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Laguna Downhill | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Strong, looks | | Weaknesses: | heavy, heavy, heavy | | Similar Products Used: | D521 | | Bike Setup: | M1, DH3, intense 36h hubs, Maxxis high roller tires. | | Bottom Line: | These are good rims for shuttling sick ass trails, but aren't raceing rims. (not if there is any pedaling envolved) They are so wide that the rims ding easily. I am trading my for some new lighter D321. They my not be as strong, but I'll be able to pedal with out looseing a lung or two. The weight diffrerence is about .5 lbs per rim. That's a lot of extra weight to turn. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Tim
a Downhiller
from Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
Date Reviewed: March 21, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Mt. Buller | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Very strong. Chunky | | Weaknesses: | Weight (but who really cares), width - can't use michelin muds because it is so wide. Price. $200 Aus. | | Similar Products Used: | Alex d/wall dh rim | | Bike Setup: | Craftworks moto link. boxxer 2000. hayes. | | Bottom Line: | Chunky rim but possibly a bit too chunky. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Good DHer
a downhiller
from USA
Date Reviewed: December 4, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Anybody else ridden their NEW DoubleWide's by Sun Rims.
Holy S*@T. Now that's what we're talking about. I got these as replacements to my Phat Alberts...we all remember those hunks.What an improvement, they still are wide about 46mm, a little heavier only about 100 grams, and they still have the rounded bead thing to stop pinch flats. I saw a cross section in a drawing one of the bike shops had. They should have just waited.Anyways I built them up on Ringle's new ABBAH DH disc hubs, which I must recommend also. And I have beat them into curbs and logs on purpose to see if they hold up longer than the Phat ALberts. Yup. These might be the strongest rims available anywhere, next to those big motocross Excel rims.They're only $5 more than my Phat's were and they come in White, Black, and Kawasaki Green. Check out the decal too. You'll laugh, get it - double wide (like the trailers).I also heard Shaums March tested the first set in Vermont... He road 1/2 the course on a flat tire and when they put the rim in the truing stand it was fine. Wish my Alberts did that. | | Overall Rating: |
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