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Specialized Big Hit FSR

MSRP $ 2200.00
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Average Rating 4.47/5
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  • Improved suspension performance
  • Adjustability with patented FSR technology
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  • Better stopping power and modulation
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    Submitted by haskell95 a Downhiller from jaffrey, nh
    Date Reviewed: August 16, 2008
    Favorite Trail:all of them
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Price Paid: $1500.00
    Purchased At:used both of them
    Strengths:just about bullet proof frame, yet still fairly light(all things considered) i mean it is a free ride bike.
    lots of them to be had used at decent prices
    Weaknesses:not a really good down hill bike(not meant to be) lots of them kicking around on the mountain, head tube angle to tight(not slack enough) and my biggest complaint (older models) a 24" rear tire. i flat all the time on it, and yes i run a lot of pressure(up 2 40lbs.) i have flatted 2 races and quite a few practice runs, not to mention having to push it back to the house after a short run trying to jump stairs. they do make a 26" conversion though so thats nice.
    Similar Products Used:first bike stolen bought 2nd cause it was much cheaper
    Bike Setup:marz. shivers.
    hayes 9s(junk) and hayes stroker(much nicer)
    fox van. shock
    bongtrager bars and stem
    sunringle rims
    Bottom Line:if you want to get into the sport cheap with a fairly decent bike. then this is it. if you have the cash to drop though there are much better. for under $1000 though you can be crank'in down hills dropping what ever your heart desires just plan on buying lots of tubes or the 26" rear end.
    if you want to race down hill dont bother with it spend a couple hundred more and get a full on downer
    Value Rating:3Overall Rating:3

    Submitted by Michael a Downhiller from CA
    Date Reviewed: July 9, 2008
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Price Paid: $600.00
    Strengths:THis bike is incredibly strong. I sold my cannondale chase to a friend for 600, then when a block away and bought this from another friend. Really strong, jumps really well. I thought I would be just dropping on the jumps, but on this bike, its really easy to overshoot the landings.
    Weaknesses:The rear shock is pretty bad. Get a roco or a dhx 5.0 if you can. It kills your back pedaling to. And its also a little hard to manuever in the air.
    Bike Setup:Manitou fork. Fox van r, hayes 9 brakes.
    Bottom Line:Its a great all around bike. Except for up hill. It handles single tracks really well, and is a great freeride bike. Get this if you want a bike that is good at downhill and jumping.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Nathan Donner a Weekend Warrior from Missoula Montana, Unites states
    Date Reviewed: April 14, 2008
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Price Paid: $1250.00
    Strengths:price. For $1250, i got a LOT of bike. It uses the 7.5" of travel very well, and it seems to soak up 10-15 foot drops like theyre nothing. very confidence inspiring
    Weaknesses:the fork. Very soft. Plan on replacing it before doing anything too hardcore thats for sure.
    Similar Products Used:stinky, coilair, aline, etc...
    Bike Setup:stock, except for my drop off triple.
    Bottom Line:Excellent bike, especially for the price. Rock solid, and it can even climb if need be. Perfect for somebody looking to buy a bike and upgrade as you go, or get a value that can do just about anything. But don't be fooled, this is not a cheap "bargain" bike. It is ready to rip right out of the shop for sure.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by nationrider a Downhiller from Germany,
    Date Reviewed: October 23, 2007
    Duration Product Used:More than 3 years
    Price Paid: $1700.00
    Purchased At:speci homann
    Strengths:great price, stiff frame, function with 4 bar linkage
    works perfect,
    Weaknesses:fork, headset, the colour on the frame is not very resistant...brakes HFX-9
    Similar Products Used:super moto, rm6
    Bike Setup:888,fox dhx,gustav m, holzfeller, atomlab, hügi fr,maxxis
    highroller
    Bottom Line:the function is very good in rough terrain, you get a great
    and ressitant bike for small money, but you have too change a few parts...

    i would buy i again after used it more than 3 years(hard)
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:4

    Submitted by Acxtreme a Cross Country Rider from Roanoke va USA
    Date Reviewed: May 31, 2007
    Favorite Trail:Explore Park
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Price Paid: $900.00
    Purchased At:LBS
    Strengths:The weight this thing is light!Awesome for rail trails and cummuting!
    Weaknesses:Wont fit in the back of my Pinto!
    Similar Products Used:Giant Sedona
    Bike Setup:Aftermarket kickstand,barends,Big But seat,gripmount mirror
    Bottom Line:This thing rocks!I can totally kill the blackdiamond sections at explore park!The 1 foot drop feels like its not even there!
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:4

    Submitted by maxx lyman a Racer from langley, b.c., canada
    Date Reviewed: May 10, 2007
    Favorite Trail:freight train
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Price Paid: $2000.00
    Purchased At:velocity cycles
    Strengths:great travel, great components, works great for freeride and dh. i even dirt jump on it sometimes
    Weaknesses:none really
    Similar Products Used:none
    Bike Setup:2006 bighit fsr 1 frame, 2006 888vf fork, front alex supra d rim and back mag 30.
    Bottom Line:ABSOLUTLY AMAZING!!!!!!!!
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by juju a Weekend Warrior from N.Y. Corona ....USA
    Date Reviewed: March 19, 2007
    Favorite Trail:NYC...street riding & local trails
    Duration Product Used:2 Years
    Price Paid: $1800.00
    Purchased At:spin city
    Strengths:This was my first mountain bike & by far the best purchase i ever made.EXCEPT FOR THE FORK.Stance kingpin is garbage, i broke it leaving the bike shop. Spend the extra $150 & upgrade it to the sherman. It's a much better fork.
    Weaknesses:There is no real weakness in the bike. I'v taken some pretty serious falls & its still going strong.OH YA,THIS BIKE IS NOT THE EASYEST TO RIDE, THERE IS ALOT OF BOUNCE. I learned the hard way.
    Similar Products Used:demo 8,
    Bike Setup:big hit frame, chris king headet, Deity stem, Thick 6 piece handlebar, Marzochie super monster T 12", & dangerboy peddals.
    Bottom Line:Great bike for everything, once u get strong enough to ride it up hill. If you are lucky enough to ride at a mountain you'll have no problems...WORTH EVERY PENNY...MAKE SURE YOU CHANGE THE FORK GO BIG,GO REAL BIG!
    Value Rating:4Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Steve a Downhiller from Steamboat Springs, CO
    Date Reviewed: March 16, 2007
    Favorite Trail:Creekside
    Duration Product Used:2 Years
    Strengths:Cornering and high speed stability. Also, the adjustability of the rear geometry is something to behold! Add a 6-way rear shock and the adjustment is infinite. 24" rear wheel. Many people dont like the 24" rear, but I like it and wont go back to a 26".
    Weaknesses:As every one says, the front fork is junk. I put a
    Boxxer Team on mine and now its a champion. Also the Hayes hfx 9's arent the best brakes, but they work great if you can get them adjusted right. Hard to find GOOD 24" tires
    Bottom Line:Great bike. SOLID, SOLID, SOLID! Ive taken some huge crashes on mine and hardly so much as a scratch in the paint. Feels great in the air. Very throwable. Buttery smooth landings. Not a pedaling bike, but why would you buy a big hit if you wanted to pedal somewhere. Outstanding bike at an outstanding price.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by alan a Weekend Warrior from chico
    Date Reviewed: February 13, 2007
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Price Paid: $900.00
    Purchased At:friend
    Strengths:burly , not to heavy
    Weaknesses:made in tiwan?:/
    Similar Products Used:fetish obsesion , yeti , cove stifee
    Bike Setup:o4 bght , 07 sprT , haloSAS , bb7 swinger 3
    Bottom Line:i love this frame , i run dual 24's but with the 185 super T on tall it still has chopper style rake . you dont need spv (manitou) from the rear shoks this bike pedals nice , it inspires convidence
    my 900$ was for just the frame ,
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Adam a Downhiller from The Oklahoma Hills
    Date Reviewed: February 5, 2007
    Favorite Trail:Steep and Rocky
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Price Paid: $1600.00
    Purchased At:LBS
    Strengths:Burly as hell, sexy curves, adjustability, love the dinky 24" rear wheel
    Weaknesses:Some of its spec'd componenty, hfx-9's not the best, particularly the fork which I blew in less than 2 weeks.
    Similar Products Used:Specialized Ground Control Extreme (early freeride), 2001 bighit, M1, rm7
    Bike Setup:05 Bighit FSR, 05 Marzocchi 66rc, Azonic Loveseat, Howitzer BB/07 Hussefelt arms, Cranks Bros 50/50x, Halo rear wheel
    Bottom Line:One of the best frames out there, super adjustability, progressive, rear end stays put during pedaling, climbable but not recommended, inspires confidence on the quick steeps, little wheel lets you get down and dirty in banked turns like horizontal I mean. 10+ feet to flat no problem, 25 foot gap to transition you might not notice. Throw the fork away when you get it and use it for a trellis or something. The bike should have been spec'd with the 66, it improved the handling so much it felt like a different bike. I love that Specialized was like, "What the hell, its the last model year for this design, let's put flames on it." Four chilis on the value just because of the fork. Even at a somewhat budget level you should still be able to get a functional fork.
    Value Rating:4Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by chris a Downhiller from new west. b.c
    Date Reviewed: November 4, 2006
    Favorite Trail:eagle mtn, salvation, cbc,
    Duration Product Used:2 Years
    Price Paid: $2200.00
    Purchased At:a bike shop
    Strengths:this bike is great at speeds, balancing, landing and is durable for the bails. the adjustable raer end is a thing of beauty if you now what trail your going on to be riding, it's nice to be able to drop the bb height for the tight skinny filled days and bump up the suspension for the droping and jump filled runs.
    Weaknesses:That damn derailler hanger is expen$ive and bends really easy i found a great deal @ icycles.com and you can get a 3 pac for less then the cost of one at the shop!the grips came off and the lock-ons went on , this is a must have!
    Similar Products Used:Riden many downhill/freeride from Rocky mountain, Cove,Kona,orange
    Bike Setup:Junior T's/ fox vanilla R, Hayes nine, Sram 9 on a 18 gear drivetain with sram gripshift ( thats riht GRIPSHIFT) E13 bashgaurd, doubletracks with a maxxis minnion on the front and a kedna nevagal on the back, truvantin hussfelt cranks and stem demo bars and yeti lock-ons.
    Bottom Line:this bike was my fav from pretty much from the get go. i've ridden other bikes that perform right up there with it but when it comes to that one step ahead i feel way more comfortable with the bighit, even the demo 9 feels better on the rough but when it comes to manuvering and basic practicality i'd rather be on the bighit. you can even pedal up Fromme and it's not that bad.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Grant a Downhiller from CALIFORNIA
    Date Reviewed: October 22, 2006
    Favorite Trail:bullet downhill/ mammoth mountains
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Price Paid: $800.00
    Purchased At:from a friend
    Strengths:FSR suspension and the fox coil it comes with. solid frame. good for downhill, freeride, and a little bit of dirtjumping. more launches then actual jumps. Only for serious riders. not for fireroaders.
    Weaknesses:the stance fork sucked. they blew and i bought a pare of marzocchi bomber 888's(there sick)
    Similar Products Used:specialized demo, kona stinky,
    Bike Setup:E13 chainguide, 2005 marzocchi 888 bombers, azonic saddle,
    Bottom Line:This bike is awesome. Everydownhiller needs one. this bike will soak up everything and wont preload unless you have awrong coil for your weight.this bike is made to hanfle anything and it wont break. get out there buy yourself one upgrade the fork and go riding. you will love it.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Benjamin a from Springdale, Pa, US
    Date Reviewed: October 22, 2006
    Favorite Trail:Roaring Run, Apollo, PA
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Price Paid: $1300.00
    Purchased At:Pittsburgh Pro, Monroeville, PA
    Strengths:Everything so far has impressed me, especially for the price, except of course the Manitou Stance, which is the most horrible fork i have ever come in contact with.
    Weaknesses:Fork. Blew seals, dented stanchions, they bottom out easily, manitou's fix with the dual springs doesnt work at all. the one good thing is manitous customer service, they ended up sending me a new fork, upgraded spec, for free.
    Similar Products Used:jamis dakar, specialized fsr pro.
    Bike Setup:stock, except for 2007 stance kingpin fork.
    Bottom Line:well worth what i paid for it, i occasionally exceed the limits of it, but the price is well justified.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:4

    Submitted by biker boy a Racer from new york, NY america
    Date Reviewed: October 3, 2006
    Favorite Trail:a line
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Price Paid: $2200.00
    Purchased At:a store
    Strengths:everything
    Weaknesses:manitou stance fork sucks it broke in a week replaced it with a marzocchi 888 vf it is awesome now.
    Similar Products Used:mongoose
    Bike Setup:2005 marzocchi 888 vf and 2006 marzocchi roco rc (huge)
    Bottom Line:a great bike if you replace the fork. it is the best bike i have ever ridden. get it if you want a reliable bike for a good price. it is awesome.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Nate dogg a Downhiller from keene nh
    Date Reviewed: August 22, 2006
    Favorite Trail:Threader
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Purchased At:1400
    Strengths:24" wheel
    FSR design
    solid
    Weaknesses:When testiing the bike in the parking lot of my lbs, I heard a loud "pop" come out of the left leg of my fork, and the seal slides half way up the stanchion. I assume that was the sound of the air assist blowing. At no cost, the owner of the shop replaced the air assist with another spring or something. It works fine now though...
    Similar Products Used:Demo 8, Devinci Johnson, Sinister R9
    Bike Setup:stock
    Bottom Line:After wating a week to get my brand new fork fixed, I took it up Drummer for the first time and was quite pleased with its performance. The fork handled some small drops (under 10ft.) with ease, I haven't bottomed it out yet. The rear suspension is nice. just nice... The 24" rear wheel makes a huge difference in the corners, it just lays the bike right into them. The bike is also quite agile, I can whip the back end around like its a much lighter bike. For the price I paid, it can't be beat. Bottom line-Solid bike.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Nate dogg a Downhiller from keene nh
    Date Reviewed: August 22, 2006
    Favorite Trail:Threader
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Purchased At:1400
    Strengths:24" wheel
    FSR design
    solid
    Weaknesses:When testiing the bike in the parking lot of my lbs, I heard a loud "pop" come out of the left leg of my fork, and the seal slides half way up the stanchion. I assume that was the sound of the air assist blowing. At no cost, the owner of the shop replaced the air assist with another spring or something. It works fine now though...
    Similar Products Used:Demo 8, Devinci Johnson, Sinister R9
    Bike Setup:stock
    Bottom Line:After wating a week to get my brand new fork fixed, I took it up Drummer for the first time and was quite pleased with its performance. The fork handled some small drops (under 10ft.) with ease, I haven't bottomed it out yet. The rear suspension is nice. just nice... The 24" rear wheel makes a huge difference in the corners, it just lays the bike right into them. The bike is also quite agile, I can whip the back end around like its a much lighter bike. For the price I paid, it can't be beat. Bottom line-Solid bike.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Jordan LaRue a Downhiller from Kelowna
    Date Reviewed: August 2, 2006
    Favorite Trail:silverstar
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Price Paid: $1845.00
    Purchased At:gerick cycle
    Strengths:strong frame okay parts good price for what you get
    Weaknesses:the fork is really bad i brokle it in 9 weeks
    Similar Products Used:...
    Bike Setup:...
    Bottom Line:good bike i recomend it just change thr fork anf your good to go
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:4

    Submitted by Josh a from california
    Date Reviewed: August 2, 2006
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Price Paid: $1400.00
    Purchased At:performance bike
    Strengths:Proven reliable frame with simple and effective rear end
    8.75 of rear travel, Great handling around corners ,proven fsr terchnology
    Weaknesses:the fork the stance kingpin is a horrable fork i blew the seals the first day i had the bike going off a curb
    Bike Setup:stock bighit except for a 05 marzocchi 888 rc
    Bottom Line:this bike kicks ass
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by max loewenstein a Downhiller from pittsburgh PA
    Date Reviewed: July 3, 2006
    Favorite Trail:iron grate or frick DH
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Price Paid: $1500.00
    Purchased At:ebay from a friend
    Strengths:stiff and super strong. handeling is awsome. suspension is plush but the kingpin is weak but it is being changed but i love the bike
    Weaknesses:just the fork but even that is ok
    Similar Products Used:kona stinky
    Bike Setup:stock with a bomber 66 on the way
    Bottom Line:i love the bike and wouldnt change a thing
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Eric Skinner a Weekend Warrior from Fresno, CA, USA
    Date Reviewed: June 25, 2006
    Favorite Trail:007 at Bass Lake, CA
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Price Paid: $1500.00
    Purchased At:Herb Bauer Cycles
    Strengths:Extremely tight frame, solid as can be even off of huge drops, (in excess of 8') downhill is a dream, tracks well, rear stays stiff when trecking uphill and if ever riding around town.
    Weaknesses:Kingpin was a nightmare, but Manitou kindly swapped me for a Sherman slider : ) Bad ass fork compared with the stance. Tires could have used some more thought, went through both front and rear within 3 months. A little on the heavy side as i am only 150 pounds but it will make your legs strong as can be though!
    Similar Products Used:specialized FSR comp (1999), Cannondale V900.
    Bike Setup:2005 bighit, Manitou Sherman Slider, Maxxis high roller 60a 2.70's, everything else is bone stock and strong as hell (slammed the XT rear derailluer on a rock twice in one run, scratches, nothing else, same with the Hayes calipers, the hit was hard enough to crack them open just a minor scuff on the powder coat!!) 007 is a pretty burly trail.
    Bottom Line:As an avid rider for the past five years doing everything from BMX to road, to cross country, I am especially pumped about this bike. I jumped off the roof of the RDH a hair over 8 feet high) at my school and the frame didn't even make a creak. The bottom line here is that this bike is absolutely great for anyone that wants to get into freeride/downhill at a great price with a fairly light yet completely bulletproof frame design, solid componentry minus the fork, and an eagerness to tackle downhill runs like noneother. I have ridden it hard on both street as well as some crazy downhill runs for a little over a year now and am still thoroughly impressed!! Will recommend to all and will never buy another brand. Five flammin' chilis all the effin' way!!!
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Alex a Cross Country Rider from Centennial, CO, USA
    Date Reviewed: June 11, 2006
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Price Paid: $1500.00
    Strengths:super fast coming down, that 24 inch wheel results in quicker acceleration. In the past i have been mostly a cross country rider and on this bike I am still able to beat most weekend warriors who are peddaling up their enduros and similar bikes. Made me strong like ox.
    Weaknesses:Weighs a lot. but its kind of nice, when you do a drop the bike just sticks to the ground and keeps on rolling. Im enjoying this whole downhill thing a lot.
    Bike Setup:stock.
    Bottom Line:this is a really fun bike, and its not impossible to pedal it up a hill if you need to. so for the money this is the bike i decided to go with. Im able to keep up with a lot of the cross country guys and then i destroy them on the downhill. Its the best of both worlds.
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:4

    Submitted by Adrian a Downhiller from Jindabyne
    Date Reviewed: April 16, 2006
    Favorite Trail:Thredbo's Cannonball Run
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Price Paid: $1800.00
    Purchased At:NRG Cycles Brisbane
    Strengths:Proven reliable frame with simple and effective rear end
    8.1/6.8" of rear travel
    Great handling in corners and at speed
    Beautiful welded and finished
    Weaknesses:Mine came with SPV Sliders instead of the Stance which was good but I found the Sliders more suited to the big hits of freeriding as opposed to the smaller faster hits of DH
    As the 24" rear design is not so popular anymore tyre choice is limited
    Similar Products Used:FSR Pro


    Bike Setup:Standard frame/shock/cranks/wheels
    06 Boxxer Team
    X9 drivetrain/e-thirteen chainguide
    Hayes Mags
    Bottom Line:Awesome bike for getting into DH. I bought it just before moving to Jindabyne for riding at Thredbo. The Single Tracks have lasted the whole summer and I've only just killed the rear. Replacing the 7" Shermans with 8" Boxxers slackened the head angle just enough to make the more freeride geo more stable at speed yet still handle the tight sections
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:4

    Submitted by sam a Downhiller from new zealand
    Date Reviewed: April 10, 2006
    Duration Product Used:6 months
    Price Paid: $1000.00
    Purchased At:local bike shop
    Strengths:frame, wheelset, fork for nz riding conditions only if you can get over the first bedin problems like blown seals
    Weaknesses:forks if you just leave them or are heavy
    Similar Products Used:demo9 and demo 8
    ironhorse sunday and yakuza
    Bike Setup:stock except for grips and fork internals
    Bottom Line:bloody good bike if you can get over the first time fork woes. mine is running just as good as boxxers or 888s now. some friends say better!! it would be good for someone who wants to freeride and also do a bit of downhilling
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Keny a Downhiller from california
    Date Reviewed: March 31, 2006
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Strengths:all
    Weaknesses:none
    Similar Products Used:stab delux
    Bottom Line:perfect
    Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Ryan Kann a Downhiller from Rice Lake, WI, United States
    Date Reviewed: March 26, 2006
    Favorite Trail:Lake Shore Ride, Rice Lake, WI
    Duration Product Used:1 Year
    Price Paid: $1600.00
    Purchased At:Spring Street Sports
    Strengths:24-inch rear wheel for awsome wheelies and manuals
    6.2-7.5 inches of plush travel
    beefy frame
    Weaknesses:Fork
    Similar Products Used:GT ruckus I-drive 2.0
    Kona Stinky
    Tomac Six Shooter
    Specialized Demo 9
    Tomac 204 Magnum
    Bike Setup:Fork: Manitou Sherman Slider Plus
    everything else stock
    Bottom Line:Awsome freeride bike that will take whatever you trow at it! Fork isn't that great and isn't good enough for the bike. 24 inch rear wheel makes wheelies and manuals much easier. Overall great bike, great value. Money well spent.
    Value Rating:4Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Todd Layfield a Downhiller from Ridgecrest, CA
    Date Reviewed: March 21, 2006
    Favorite Trail:?
    Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
    Price Paid: $1500.00
    Purchased At:ebay
    Strengths:It's really plush and has lots of travel. Brakes work really well and the shifting is really smooth.
    Weaknesses:None. Because the bike came with Sherman Sliders instead of the kingpin. Should have came with a better rear shock for how much the bike was.
    Similar Products Used:many different bikes
    Bike Setup:Stock 2005 big hit FSR except for the sherman sliders and a FSA bash gard.
    Bottom Line:It is a really good bike for the money if you are a freerider or downhiller. Comes with really good components and can take anything you can throw at it. It is also a really nice jumping bike. Overall it's a great bike I would recomend anyone looking for a nice freeride bike to get it.
    Value Rating:4Overall Rating:5

    Submitted by Troy Everett a Downhiller from Moncton, New-Brunswic, Canada
    Date Reviewed: March 16, 2006
    Favorite Trail:canaught woods
    Duration Product Used:3 months
    Price Paid: $1100.00
    Purchased At:Hub Cycles
    Strengths:evreything, geometry, components are good
    Weaknesses:the forks really suck (i cracked my lower stanctions the first month of owning the bike)rims arent the best either