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Submitted by
a4blur
a Cross Country Rider
from San Jose,CA
Date Reviewed: April 23, 2009 | | Favorite Trail: | Any singletrack | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$100.00 | | Purchased At: | Colorado Cyclist | | Strengths: | super strong, maintenance free, even more polished when used. | | Weaknesses: | None | | Similar Products Used: | PD-M535 | | Bike Setup: | s-works M2 hardtail, geared or ss | | Bottom Line: | Have used them on my past 3 bikes. They are still on my current ride. After 1000's of miles - NEVER rebuilt them, just tightened the bearings twice. bomb-proof Have slammed so many trees and rockscrossings you cant tell what brand they are, but they always work. I | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Hmmmm...
a Cross Country Rider
from Flagstaffrica, AZ
Date Reviewed: March 24, 2009 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$175.00 | | Purchased At: | Dunno, 14 years ago | | Strengths: | Strong, durable, totally 'polished' from rocks after 14 years of use. Still tight after many years of riding | | Weaknesses: | A little heavy (don't be a wimp, these are beefcake)
Sometimes get paked with mud or snow | | Similar Products Used: | none, these are my first clipless pedals | | Bike Setup: | S-works hardtail, One-one inbred SS | | Bottom Line: | BOMBER! What other piece of cycling gear is still in use everyday from 14 years ago? Umm, nothing... These pedals are on both of my bikes, they have always worked flawlessly, a little banging on the side of your pedal with your shoe usually clears them quickly on the occasion when they get packed with mud. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Man from Utopia
a Cross Country Rider
from South Central PA
Date Reviewed: March 19, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Black Gap | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$150.00 | | Purchased At: | Mt Gretna Mt Bikes | | Strengths: | They work (most of the time) and they're bomb proof. | | Weaknesses: | Cosmic debris clogs the cleats and transfers to the pedals | | Similar Products Used: | Frogs, cheaper shimano's, even cheaper shimano knockoffs
| | Bike Setup: | SC SuperLite, XT yada, yada, yada, mythos saddle, Scott ATM bars. Yeah I'm old school. | | Bottom Line: | I've beaten these things to an unrecognizable pulp for 12 years of hard riding and counting. They work flawlessly most of the time. Easy to clip into (except when clogged) and always easy to clip out of (never unexpectedly). That puts them #1 in my book. Back in the day when these pedals were more common I could stop on the trail and listen to the peace and quiet when off in the distance I'd hear someone else bangin their cleat on a rock to get the mud out.
There may be something else marginally better in some conditions but for an all around pedal these do the job better. Other pedals can't take the abuse and unless you have a sponsor I'd just assume not pay $100 bucks or more every season or two on new pedals.
I repacked the bearings on these once a few years ago although upon inspection they didn't need it
Next to my vetta-15 cycleputer these are the the oldest gear I have and they still work like day one. Probably even better since they've been fine tuned over a 12 year process and they've probably had a gram or so of weight shaved off them the hard way. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
George Cruz
a Cross Country Rider
from Lisbon, Portugal
Date Reviewed: January 25, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | anything without asphalt | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$120.00 | | Purchased At: | Dave's Cycle Shop, Fairfield, CT | | Strengths: | Durability. Ease of use. Durability. Decent all weather performance (mud, snow, sand). Durability. | | Weaknesses: | A little sloppy feel in the pedal - but I actually like this because it allows you to shift your riding position (including foot position) in techincal situations. | | Similar Products Used: | first and only pedal I used...never felt the need for anything "better" | | Bike Setup: | DBR Axis TT w/high end mix | | Bottom Line: | Started MBing in 1991. Bought the 747's (my first clipless pedals) in 1995. Have used them on my past 5 bikes. STILL have them on my current ride. After 1000's of miles - NEVER rebuilt them, just tightened the bearings twice. I am a 190-200 lb, aggressive, expert rider. These pedals have been soooo good to me. I have stepped out of situations woth these pedals that (looking back) were EXTREMELY dangerous. Pedals have functioned 100%, still have the original cleats. I now live in Lisbon Portugal, but rode most of my miles in Connecitcut - all year round. Pedals woekd well inall conditions, but you do have to kick them in extreme mud and snow. Not too bad, a coupla hits to the pedal/cleat will usually clear them, even while you are riding. Bought 2 sets from ebay this week, one brand new at $90 and a used set at $20. WIll outfit all my bikes with this pedal. 838's and 959's seem to have design issues/flaws, THESE DO NOT HAVE ANY. Have slammed so many trees/rocks/roots/calf deep river crossings you cant tell what brand they are, but they always work. If you can find them buy them. VERY good for heavy/agressive riders. Good first clipless pedal. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jay
a
from Oahu
Date Reviewed: June 16, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | I've had em' for 7 years and have NEVER had a problem. Work like the day I bought them and they have never been serviced. | | Weaknesses: | Zero weaknesses. | | Bike Setup: | Litespeed | | Bottom Line: | These were top of the line pedals in 1997. Why is it that the new shimano top of the line pedals have more problems than these ever have? I'm getting a new bike soon and I'll transfer these before getting anything new and unreliable. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andrew Fatman
a Cross Country Rider
from Feldafing
Date Reviewed: November 18, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$20.00 | | Purchased At: | Hibike | | Strengths: | s.b. | | Weaknesses: | s.b. | | Similar Products Used: | s.b. | | Bike Setup: | s.b. | | Bottom Line: | Got a tip and put the multifunctional Shimano cleats (multiple release mode SM-SH 55 SPD Cleat Set) on my shoes. These have much less lateral float, but the annoying vertical give (s.b.) is no longer there. There is a good connection now to the pedal, comparable to the ATACs. The pedal/multifunctional cleat also has the easy getting in and, especcially getting out; in fact, it is easier to get out: you haven't to get out strictly sideways as wtih the regular cleats; as advertised, you can move your foot also a bit heavenwards, and they still let go. With the regulars, I sometimes got locked in when pulling also a bit upwards and not strictly sideways in a panic reaction. So these really are everybodies pedals/cleats. Still, the ATACs are the better choice for experienced hard riding xc riders on not too technical stuff. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andrew Fatman
a Cross Country Rider
from Feldampfing
Date Reviewed: November 11, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$150.00 | | Purchased At: | Rabe Munich | | Strengths: | Hold out, reliable function | | Weaknesses: | vertical play | | Similar Products Used: | Time ATAC, 636, XT | | Bike Setup: | TREK 9900 OCLV | | Bottom Line: | These are o.k., especially for SPD newcomers. What bothers me most, is their slight vertical giving which I have with all three types of shoes (SIDIs, Gearne, Shimanos). The float is o.k. (6°), even better than the float of the ATACs (15°). The ATACs keep the foot much tighter without any vertical give, which is really good when pedalling hard. But, but, but... When you really want to get out quickly, the 747 release perfectly both ways (turning in (at 12:00 o'clock crank position much easier than rotating outwards!!!) and out 6°). The ATACs release you at 15° turning out, and at 30° turning in. So you have the time for a good long prayer sometimes before you get free with the ATACs. As long as you aren't in a tight spot, the ATACs feel better, though. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ernie Devo
a Cross Country Rider
from Orillia
Date Reviewed: November 10, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | I hate wet tree roots. | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | Durable, Easy to clean, Small base..... | | Weaknesses: | Hard to clip out in mud. | | Similar Products Used: | ritchey, etc... | | Bike Setup: | X-C, SID | | Bottom Line: | This is a great pedal that I have ridden for many years. Now that it has given over half a decade of service, there are still only minor problems. 1- It is hard to clip out, when (wet and) dry, and impossible to clip out when muddy.
this pedal is still available on the market because it is a quality product. unlike other bike products with a week's research and then production, and then store shelf in a month, .... your bike in two months,... broken in three months, (you know the deal with flimsy bike stuff),
this pedal will last a million clip-ins, and clip-outs.
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Submitted by
Tony
a Weekend Warrior
from Earth
Date Reviewed: October 28, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | Well-built
easy to clip on/off
float | | Weaknesses: | 400 grams a pair. A bit heavy these days | | Similar Products Used: | Specialized.
Ritchey.
Wellgo | | Bike Setup: | Tommasini Sintesi. Yeti ARC. | | Bottom Line: | If you pedal along and never have to think about your pedals, then you know you've got a good pair. This is one of them. I've used them to tour across over 30 countries and never have they failed on me. The only annoyance is the weight - there are much lighter ones out there. But better? I doubt it. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Joel
a Cross Country Rider
from Lancaster, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: October 8, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Cannell Plunge | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$85.00 | | Purchased At: | Supergo | | Strengths: | Smooth entry and exit. Very durable...best dry-weather pedal I've used. | | Weaknesses: | Like any other SPD, or SPD-clone, Stay out of the mud... | | Similar Products Used: | Onza (remember those deathtraps?), Ritchey, Girvin, Time, Shimano 535's. | | Bike Setup: | Specialized M2, Marzocchi Atom Z2, XT/XTR, Race Face, Easton, Velomax Climax's
| | Bottom Line: | The best SPD type pedal I've used...very durable and buttery entry and exit....just stay out of the mud. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rick Margolin
a Cross Country Rider
from Santa Barbara, CA
Date Reviewed: July 18, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Arroyo Burro | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$100.00 | | Purchased At: | Bike Works, Ft. Collins, CO | | Strengths: | Bombproof, light, easy to maintain, shed most gunk well. | | Weaknesses: | Kind of small platform | | Similar Products Used: | Shimano 545, Ritchey Logic | | Bottom Line: | Great XC pedal. Overall these petals are indestructable. I'm going on to my fourth season now on these and have never had 1 problem. Haven't even done routine maintanence. They've taken some serious hits and hardly show it. They shed mud really well and, depending on your shoe, expel gunk well. Only complaint is the small platform but that is typical of all pedals in this class. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Graham
a Weekend Warrior
from Perth, Australia
Date Reviewed: June 27, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$35.00 | | Purchased At: | Secondhand | | Bottom Line: | This is quite simply a superb pedal. I bought mine second-hand from my LBS. The pedals had been on a Yeti that had never been off-road!! The new buyer did not want them and went for a pair of flatties!!!
LBS wanted US$150. I said no. A week later 'make us an offer'. Hey Presto, virtually unused 747s for $70 (inc new SH 151 cleats).
In and Out smooth as silk. Fully servicable. Nuff said. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Graham
a Weekend Warrior
from Perth, Australia
Date Reviewed: June 27, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$35.00 | | Purchased At: | Secondhand | | Bottom Line: | This is quite simply a superb pedal. I bought mine second-hand from my LBS. The pedals had been on a Yeti that had never been off-road!! The new buyer did not want them and went for a pair of flatties!!!
LBS wanted US$150. I said no. A week later 'make us an offer'. Hey Presto, virtually unused 747s for $70 (inc new SH 151 cleats).
In and Out smooth as silk. Fully servicable. Nuff said. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Pete
a Cross Country Rider
from Santa Rosa, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: May 13, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$100.00 | | Strengths: | Durable. Reliable. I haven't had any problems with these pedals. I use them in muddy conditions and I'm still able to clip in. | | Weaknesses: | They are no longer made. | | Bike Setup: | SoulCraft Option 3, Thomson, XT Disc hubs w/ Sun Rhino Lite rims, Marzocchi X-Fly 100, Chris King headset, RaceFace Turbine cranks, Hope Mini disc brakes. | | Bottom Line: | I bought these pedals the day before the 1998 Sea Otter Classic and they still feel like they're new. I'm really happy with these pedals. If you can find a pair, get them. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
david
a Cross Country Rider
from corvallis, oregon, usa
Date Reviewed: April 27, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$150.00 | | Purchased At: | bicycle doctors | | Strengths: | engaging and disengaging is super crips. They never stick, and I can always get out with no problems. | | Weaknesses: | They do not work as well in the mud, but they still work fairly well | | Bike Setup: | cannondale caad 3 hardtail | | Bottom Line: | These are an outstanding pedal. I bought them when they were the flagship model. I have used other pedals, and none feel the same. I have egg beaters now, I may try and get some of the new 959's. I love shimano pedals! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Doug
a Cross Country Rider
from GreenBay
Date Reviewed: March 20, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$120.00 | | Purchased At: | WWW.THEBIKESHACK.COM | | Strengths: | Awesome product, perfect entry every time, and perfect release every time. I train every spring / summer / fall for personal health and fitness and these pedals give that "one more" no worry feeling. I never need to wory about anything with these pedals, and I do a mix of every kind of riding, from RAGBRAI (500 miles accros IOWA in 7 days, to the "down and dirty" in the back woods of the midwest) sorry, no corn feilds. These pedals have not let me down at all. | | Weaknesses: | If I could think of one, trust me, I would be preaching here today. | | Bike Setup: | Giant TCR (Road frame) Titus Swithblade (MTN frame) you know the rest, the obvious compliments that go with a "ideal frame". It all depends on decision, and my decision was the Giant TCR and the Titus Switchblade with the "perfect compliment pedals" Shimano PD-M747 | | Bottom Line: | I hav had absolutly no issues with this setup, If you could still get these pedals, I would recomend. Price is well worth the quality, and dealer(WWW.THEBIKESHACK.COM) was a great resource to get the ball rolling. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Randy
a Racer
from Fresno Ca USA
Date Reviewed: March 17, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Airtime BMX Reedley Ca | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$100.00 | | Purchased At: | Dans Comp | | Strengths: | consistant performance, weight, | | Weaknesses: | none | | Similar Products Used: | SPD M636 | | Bike Setup: |
BMX racing | | Bottom Line: | very good light weight pedal. In BMX racing if you unclip & can't clip in on the nest stroke your done with. The 747 it is harder to reclip than with the 636. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
William Brave
a Weekend Warrior
from Spain
Date Reviewed: December 10, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$90.00 | | Strengths: | Easy tension adjustment
Easy to get out of
Easy to get in
Predictable Release
Smooth as hell | | Weaknesses: | Small pedal surface
SHIMANO IS NOT MANUFACTURING IT NO MORE AND I CAN'T UPGRADE MY OTHER MTB WITH THESE PEDALS (BRAND NEW) AS THEY ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND
| | Similar Products Used: | Tioga CLIPLESS PEDALS | | Bike Setup: | SCOTT BOULDER '98 | | Bottom Line: | SHIMANO READ THE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THEY CLOGGED UP WITH MUD AND TRIED TO IMPROVE THIS PEDALS WITH THE NEW 858'(DANGEROUS!!!). THIS WAY SHIMANO INTRODUCED A PRODUCT WORSE THAN THE ONE THEY HAVE RETIRED-----> CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN THIS??
THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE GOTTEN IS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE TRYING OUT NEW BRANDS (MAYBE I'LL GO TO TIME ATACS OR SPEEDPLAY)
SHIMANO: GET THEM BACK TO THE MARKET AND DON'T TRY TO IMPROVE THE UNIMPROVABLE THINGS!!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Toven Simonsen
a Cross Country Rider
from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Date Reviewed: November 25, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Any in Kananaskis | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$110.00 | | Purchased At: | Over the Internet | | Strengths: | Very stong, doesent need very much attention. I have not adjusted it very much in the years that I have had them. | | Weaknesses: | Hard to clip into when it is muddy. | | Similar Products Used: | Richey | | Bike Setup: | Rocky Mountain Altitude, Mostly XTR | | Bottom Line: | They do not seem to have worn very much in the time that I have owned them. I would recommend them for anybody that is sure they will be riding for a few years, and want a product that will last. Great pedale, I am planning on buying a new bike this year, but I am keeping these pedals. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Drew H
a Racer
from Stead, Manitoba, Canada
Date Reviewed: November 7, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$80.00 | | Purchased At: | Vancouver | | Strengths: | great bearings, easy in and out | | Weaknesses: | clogged with mud fairly easily | | Similar Products Used: | Coda slipless | | Bike Setup: | 01' Cannondale F1000 | | Bottom Line: | A great pedal that is nearly perfect if you are using it for XC. I'm considering a platform with clipless pedal for better support on drops | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ksyrium
a Racer
from Atlanta, GA
Date Reviewed: November 2, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Chicopee | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$100.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Durability! Spent 4 seasons on them, and the spin super smooth. | | Weaknesses: | Muddy conditions! Lack of keeping me clipped in. $$$$ - Pricey for what you get, I got a good discount. | | Similar Products Used: | Onza - anyone remember them??, Shimano 535 & Now using Time Atacs!! | | Bike Setup: | Ocoee hardtail!, full XT, Judy SL, Time Atac's | | Bottom Line: | If you can get them for a steal, they are a decent pedal. But not worth forking the cash over when compared to Time Atac's or Frog's.
I liked the 747's, but I did pull out of them when I didn't want to (even with the tension cranked down) especially mid-air. Had a horrible time in a muddy race with them! Had to keep banging my shoe on them to get the mud out and get engaged. The platform is small and can hurt your feet if you ride in flexy shoes.
I put on the Time Atac's ($80) and have not had to touch them, they have worked AWESOME! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Robert Tilton
a Cross Country Rider
from Pleasant Hill
Date Reviewed: August 25, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | na | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | bikes for life | | Strengths: | durability
function
performance | | Weaknesses: | weight | | Similar Products Used: | 535 | | Bike Setup: | gt xizang
full xtr
marz z2 atom bomb | | Bottom Line: | i upgraded the pedals upon purchasing my zaskar in '97 and have since then tranferred them to my xizang that i built up this year. the pedals have performed flawlessly during the 4 years (2.5K miles)of ownership. i have been considering bebops then read these reviews and realized i was having a momentary lapse of reason. if it ain't broke then don't fix it. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Matt Vanselow
a Cross Country Rider
from Bellingham
Date Reviewed: August 2, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | The next trail I ride | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$175.00 | | Purchased At: | A LBS | | Strengths: | Haven't had to overhaul the bearings yet. Very adjustable.
Look cool. Totally reliable. Feel like a pedal that will last me for a long while yet | | Weaknesses: | There are instances where the cleat and pedal get too full of mud to clip in. I had my left foot come out of the pedal in a sprint once. it was my fault for running them so loose though. | | Similar Products Used: | scott pedals. they sucked. | | Bike Setup: | Homegrown XT-XTR | | Bottom Line: | I am very happy with these pedals. I forked over too much cash to a LBS when I could have got them for a steal online. I've got over 3000 miles on them and have never had a problem. original cletes. original bearings. There are some problems in excessively muddy conditions. I've got twigs stuck in them and couldn't click in.
The reason I would give these 4/5 is because of the mud and high price I paid at a LBS. I hear that there are pedals that clear mud better.
Also, I don't know what the weight of these pedals are. I don't know how they compete with Time atacs.
And I'm sure that speedplay frogs are much lighter.
Very good pedals, but there's probably better for the price that I paid. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Drew
a Racer
from Stead, Manitoba, Canada
Date Reviewed: July 31, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$70.00 | | Purchased At: | Simons Bike Shop (I think) in Vancouver | | Strengths: | BOMBPROFF!! These things are soooo smooth! Water, sand and anything cant get to the bearrings. | | Weaknesses: | Not good for riding unclipped, get clogged up with mud sometimes - the simple sollution, don't put your foot in the mud | | Similar Products Used: | Coda clipless | | Bike Setup: | 2001 Cannondale F1000 | | Bottom Line: | If you want durability, buy these. If you want a piece of $h!t, buy a Shimano replica. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Grz Mnky
a Cross Country Rider
from Santa Cruz
Date Reviewed: July 10, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Anything Illegal ;-) | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$120.00 | | Purchased At: | Some LBS | | Strengths: | Simple and reliable in dry conditions. They last. Love the silky smooth exit under all conditions with the multi point release cleat. Feels just like blowing out of my Marker ski bindings at speed. | | Weaknesses: | Mud and gunk clearing - if it isn't air, water, or a cleat it's going to get stuck. They can fail. Kinda hefty. Crappy stock cleat. | | Similar Products Used: | 737 (original spuds), 858's (they're funky, no?) | | Bike Setup: | C'dale Jekyll - Ultra Fatty fork, Fox Float RC, SRAM 9.0SL shifting & rear der., Avid Arch Supreme with Ultimate levers, Easton Carbon flat bar, XT crank w/XTR rings, POS LX front der., Thomson post WTB saddle, XTR hubs, w/517's and DT spokes, SS Cussi cages. Bike weighs in around 23 lbs. - figure I can still shave some weight witha visit at Jenny Craig's... | | Bottom Line: | Well, I thought these things were pretty bomb-proof until last week. I managed to blow one entire spring-pivot-clip out when the main body casting failed. No signs of prior fatigue in the aluminum. Sure, it had a lot to do with my foot striking a rotten log when the suspension bottomed out at a high rate of speed down a no-no trail. If the pedal hadn't failed I'd probably been garrotted by a barbed wire fence.
Perfect excuse to get the Time ATAC Carbon/Ti pedals.
Decent value for the $$$ so 4 flaming turds, but iffy performance under harsh conditions so overall 3 flaming turds.
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Grz Mnky
a Cross Country Rider
from Santa Cruz
Date Reviewed: July 10, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Anything Illegal ;-) | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$120.00 | | Purchased At: | Some LBS | | Strengths: | Simple and reliable in dry conditions. They last. Love the silky smooth exit under all conditions with the multi point release cleat. | | Weaknesses: | Mud and gunk clearing - if it isn't air, water, or a cleat it's going to get stuck. They can fail. Kinda hefty. Crappy stock cleat. | | Similar Products Used: | 737 (original spuds), 858's (they're funky, no?) | | Bike Setup: | C'dale Jekyll - Ultra Fatty fork, Fox Float RC, SRAM 9.0SL shifting & rear der., Avid Arch Supreme with Ultimate levers, Easton Carbon flat bar, XT crank w/XTR rings, POS LX front der., Thomson post WTB saddle, XTR hubs, w/517's and DT spokes, SS Cussi cages. Bike weighs in around 23 lbs. - figure I can still shave some weight at Jenny Craig's... | | Bottom Line: | Well, I thought these things were pretty bomb-proof until last week. I managed to blow one entire spring-pivot-clip out when the main body casting failed. No signs of prior fatigue in the aluminum. Sure, it had a lot to do with my foot striking a rotten log when the suspension bottomed out at a high rate of speed down a no-no trail. If the pedal hadn't failed I'd probably been garrotted by a barbed wire fence.
Perfect excuse to get the Time ATAC Carbon/Ti pedals.
Decent value for the $$$ so 4 flaming turds, but iffy performance under harsh conditions so overall 3 flaming turds.
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Submitted by
Slug Smasher
a Cross Country Rider
from Pacific Northwest
Date Reviewed: July 3, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Colon Dropping Mud Funk | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$90.00 | | Purchased At: | Don't remember.com | | Strengths: | Bomb proof design, the STANDARD. | | Weaknesses: | Bearing races on axle will wear out. Plastic cone nut needs the special tool or you will strip it. | | Similar Products Used: | Why | | Bike Setup: | Old school beater Trek 930, XT everything, Judy SL. | | Bottom Line: | The outside of my pedal bodies look like hammered blobs of lead but the business parts are still intact. I have pounded these things into rocks and trees and they always work. Always buy Shimano replacement cleats, Wellgo and others suck butt. Mud clearance and wood debris are sometimes a problem, but the consistant performance and reliability make up for a couple missed clips now and then So, if you don't crash, you don't have to try to clip back in with your mud packed shoes, what a concept. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Richard Malley
a Weekend Warrior
from Wellington New Zealand
Date Reviewed: May 15, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Karapoti | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$120.00 | | Purchased At: | I can't remember it was sooo long ago. | | Strengths: | They work like a bloody trooper all the time, strong reliable and are light considering how strong they are. If you want more float just wait till they wear out a bit and the slop form the spindle to the pedal ensures you have more. Good positive "Click" when entering and exiting the pedal. Really easy to get in and out of unless you are a total spaz!!. | | Weaknesses: | Looks second hand pretty quick. | | Similar Products Used: | Time Atac, 535, etc | | Bike Setup: | Giant NRS XTC1, Diamonback Apex, Cannondale old crappy MTB. | | Bottom Line: | Very good reliable pedals. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ken S.
a Racer
from Albany, NY USA
Date Reviewed: May 14, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Plattekill | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$99.00 | | Purchased At: | Jenson | | Strengths: | Feels great...so easy to get into... | | Weaknesses: | NONE | | Similar Products Used: | Bontrager...Shimano | | Bike Setup: | Trek 7000 | | Bottom Line: | These pedals work great. Raced with them over the weekend for the first time and they performed flawlessly. It is so easy to clip into these things compared to anything else I've used. Once you are in, you are in. It's also very easy to twist out as well and there is a little bit of side to side float...but not too muck like the crazy Frogs.
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Submitted by
Clink Lambskin
a Weekend Warrior
from Boston
Date Reviewed: May 3, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Freedom | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$150.00 | | Purchased At: | Backcountry, Lake Tahoe | | Strengths: | Look nice out of the box. | | Weaknesses: | Price, performance. One lasted about 3 months before one side of one pedal broke, the other pedal on the other side shortly thereafter | | Similar Products Used: | Ritchey clipless. Still going strong at a fraction of the price. | | Bike Setup: | Marin Team Titanium | | Bottom Line: | If you paid that much, I hope you have better luck than I. All other Shimano has been good to me. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
jimmy
a Racer
from squamish, b.c. canada
Date Reviewed: March 31, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | whistler mountain | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$100.00 | | Purchased At: | used from a bike shop 3 years ago | | Strengths: | everything. even the mud clearence. i dont what these babies from california are complaining about "a few mud days a year but i stay away from them"! i ride mud all year, race mud and clip in fine in mud. maybe its because these pedals are worn down being at least 4 years old? | | Weaknesses: | price i guess, but its worth it | | Similar Products Used: | crappy ritcheys haha! | | Bike Setup: | 2001 rocky mountain slayer | | Bottom Line: | pro pedals, anything else is a waste of money!
even for freeriding and downhillin in the summer i use these pedals and have had no problem ever. im amazed with them. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris
a Cross Country Rider
from Boston, MA
Date Reviewed: March 15, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$130.00 | | Strengths: | Bombproof! Plenty of float. Low Maintenance. | | Weaknesses: | Mud Clearance. | | Similar Products Used: | Ritchy | | Bike Setup: | 95 Gary Fisher Cronus (recently retired) & Supergo Access w/XT componants. | | Bottom Line: | I bought these pedals when they first came out (1995?) and am still using them. These things have been beaten on, and I have had to do next to no maintenance. I was told by a friend that I should not use clipless pedals because I have bad knees, but with the 8 degrees of float that these have, I have had zero knee problems.
Definitely the most reliable part I have had on any bike. I wish I could say the same for the five or so pairs of shoes that they have out lasted. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Esglapious
a Cross Country Rider
from Malaysia
Date Reviewed: February 6, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | jd ridge | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$100.00 | | Strengths: | Durability , smooth working , good feel.DOesn't get that clogged up in mud as much as m other pedals | | Weaknesses: | gets clogged up anyway. | | Similar Products Used: | too damned many | | Bike Setup: | Trek oclv | | Bottom Line: | Excellent.
Found no expected mud problems
work just like new even after 2 or more years | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Edward Lim
a Weekend Warrior
from Kuala Lumpur
Date Reviewed: January 16, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | FRIM - Selayang | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | well made, good entry-exit when on-road or dry conditions. | | Weaknesses: | In muddy conditions or when there is plenty of clay, the 747s will be impossible to clip in. | | Similar Products Used: | Shimano 545. | | Bike Setup: | GARY FISHER PARAGON 99 | | Bottom Line: | As mentioned in the weaknesses category, the 747s have a serious problem when it comes to muddy environments. It can be especially difficult when you combine mud/clay with an uphill climb and you really needed to be clipped in - but it just won't engage. It times like that that you wouldn't mind paying any amount of money just to change to some thing that really works - all the time.
I do hear some really good things about Time pedals and will have to consider trying them out. I will probably use the 747s for road rides only if I do get the Time (for Off-road). | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Neil Cain
a Cross Country Rider
from London, UK
Date Reviewed: December 1, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | The Beast, Thetford + Gareth's Mum, Gt. Cornard | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | Came on bike | | Strengths: | They are pretty good in dry conditions and are easy to get into. Light, strong and easy to work on. Tension adjustment. | | Weaknesses: | Mud and sand? You can kiss releasing goodbye! Released inconsistantly as a general rule. Had a iritating squeak when the cleats wore as well. | | Similar Products Used: | Time ATACs. | | Bike Setup: | '97 Paragon, Easton tubes, Bontrager, Times, Contis, ESP, XT. My little baby! Going to have to sell at some point though to fund an Orange Sub5... any offers? VGC, lovingly cherished by an ex-Shimano Service Center mechanic. | | Bottom Line: | These aren't bad pedals. For riding in England (or anywhere where there's a bit of mud or sand) I'd go for Times, purely because I've been locked into the Shimanos more times than I care to recall. They release inconsistantly when the cleat wears, jam very easily and have caused me a few tumbles including one from 4 ft up where I unclipped in the air. Not nice. That's with constant maintainance as well. They are great for getting into and release OK in the dry, but for my money and situation the Times are better. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Pete
a Cross Country Rider
from Ann Arbor
Date Reviewed: November 30, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Schuss | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$75.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Durability
function
| | Weaknesses: | none | | Similar Products Used: | Ritchey
Onza | | Bike Setup: | Rocky | | Bottom Line: | Shimano has set the clippless standard with this timeless pedal. I have had for over 3 years and it works just as well as when I first bought it. It works incredibly well and its overall design is flawless.It is also easy to maintain and work on.Every once in a while you run into a product that cant be improved upon...this is it! This is Shimano at its best. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bruce
a
from San Diego
Date Reviewed: November 17, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Mission Trails | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$80.00 | | Strengths: | Good looks, very audible clicking sound, once clipped in-you don't accidently clip out. | | Weaknesses: | Zero mud shedding ability. | | Similar Products Used: | Coda and Specialized clipless pedals. | | Bike Setup: | GF Kaitai | | Bottom Line: | Good solid product. Had been using the specialized and Coda brands, but the shimano 747 made a world of difference. there is not too much mud here in socal, but when i do encounter it i have to find a small stick to clean the pedals out on the trail. other than that i have had no problems at all. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
brett
a
from ontario
Date Reviewed: October 20, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | durablility
weight
| | Weaknesses: | maybe-mud clearance...maybe | | Similar Products Used: | wellego/ritchy ti/vp | | Bike Setup: | rockey mountain vertex tO
xtr/mar z2 | | Bottom Line: | yo folks. what can you say, the best pedal ever introduced to the market. you want proof.. its 5 years old and still selling like hotcakes
great weight, great price, never a problem with clicking in or out under good conditions, lots of float if you need it for your knees, under extreme muddy conditions these peddles can be a lil hard to get out of, but still always easy to get into. i havent found a peddle yet that doesnt succomb to the mud, altough i havent tried ATAC's.
bottom line, the best keeps a licken and keeps on ticken, you could lose a lil more weitht and gain some mud clearance with the 858's, but is the $$ worth it... perhaps.. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mache
a Cross Country Rider
from Germany
Date Reviewed: September 10, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | 100% reliable! | | Weaknesses: | NONE! | | Similar Products Used: | Onza (CRAP!)
Tioga (too) | | Bike Setup: | Yeti Pro F.R.O. | | Bottom Line: | No matter if you like or hate Shimano, these pedals are excellent. I've bought them 5 years ago and haven't had any problem. Period. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jim
a Cross Country Rider
from Los Alamos,NM USA
Date Reviewed: August 15, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | I like them all | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Durability | | Weaknesses: | Mud clearance | | Similar Products Used: | TIME ATAC's | | Bike Setup: | GT Avalanche | | Bottom Line: | After using this pedal over a year I have nothing negative to say. I use the silver cleat(multi release) that is a big help in technical riding. The Shimano's have less rotation before release and that is something I am comfortable with. The mud issue is not really a concern here in this area of New Mexico so I find that the 747's are great. They are also very easy to rebuild, not that you have to very often due to the good seals in this pedal. But if you live where there is constant mud check out the TIME ATAC's. I highly recommend this pedal to anyone looking to up grade there bike! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Steve
a Cross Country Rider
from Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Date Reviewed: August 10, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | technical singletrack | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | reliable cartidge bearings, great pedal body durability,
ease of entry/exit, stiff spindles (cromo, of course)! | | Weaknesses: | entry/exit satisfactory in mud, great in dry conditions. | | Similar Products Used: | Onza H.O.pedals - these pedals are the worst clipless pedals ever!, the crappy bearings caused the pedal body to spin in an oval fashion, entry/exit VERY unpredictible. various flat pedals. | | Bike Setup: | Giant Cadex ALM 1, full xtr, raceface system, ringle superduper bubba wheelset, geax beaumont tires, monkeylite carbon riser. retro marzocchi xc600 with coils! | | Bottom Line: | these pedals are great especially in dry conditions. the cartridge bearing design requires little maintenance, they weigh considerably light, but when it comes to mud, the mechanisms start to get sticky. that is all.
five for value rating - long lasting durability
three for overall entry/exit - great in dry conditions only | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jimm
a Cross Country Rider
from SoCal
Date Reviewed: July 26, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Durable; solid proven design | | Weaknesses: | Weight; $$$; poor performance in mud; MUST be kept lubed; small platform (eaiser to get hot spots); needs a bit more float. | | Similar Products Used: | Wellgo; Frogs; Dualies (flat/clipless) | | Bike Setup: | GT-XCR1000/LE (XTR cranks) | | Bottom Line: | I noticed others commenting on the float. Float?? Reckon the Frogs spoiled me. Compared to Frogs these pedals have hardly any float. When adjusted correctly, they provide a great possitve feel. I've always heard about their poor performance in mud <-- true. Summer in SoCal provides few mud rides (for environmental reasons, I stay away from wet/mud). Even though it's hot and dry, I am having some minor release problems. It appears to be caused by the pedals "drying" out -- dirt/dust replacing the lube. If you need float, avoid these pedals....Frogs gotta be the float king and work FANTASTIC! Yes, they work well and I'm pleased with them. I recently bought the bike and the previous owner provided these pedals -- brand new.... Once they wear out, I'll probably replace with Frogs. They are a good pedal -- just not worth the price. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bruce Cloete
a Weekend Warrior
from Johannesburg, South Africa
Date Reviewed: July 14, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Sweat & Gears | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Easy adjustments, plenty of float reduces knee & ankle strain, easy to clip in/out in either direction. | | Weaknesses: | None | | Similar Products Used: | Clips (for approx 1 year) | | Bike Setup: | 99 Kona Firemountain | | Bottom Line: | These are my first set of spd pedals - so I can't compare to other SPD pedals.... so... I was expecting to wipe out on the first test-drive. I took common advice, and first did some practice around the yard - no need - No wipe-outs (at least not due to the pedals).
These pedals are very easily adjustable and allow plenty of sideway movement without clipping out - unless you need to clip out - then it just seems to work.
And the more I ride - the more impressed I become.
...and if you haven't made the move from clips to clipless - it's high time - Clips will kill you!
Functionally - a great buy!! you can't go wrong!!!
Performance - Excellent
Durability - Excellent (so far - I'll review again in a year's time).
Price wise - If you can afford them - buy them!!
Though I couldn't afford a new set, I got these at an absolute bargain price (second-hand) from "Saint Sports" in Boksburg - in good condition for only R500 (approx. $70US) (only used a few times by the LBS salesman), and I've never been happier - almost a 3rd of the price of a new set!
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Submitted by
Todd M.
a Racer
from Palm Desert, CA (Riverside)
Date Reviewed: June 8, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Todd's Trail (My own backyard loop) | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | Very safe release. This pedal is predictable and allows you to release in just about every direction (unlike Time and others). I ride very technical climbs and descents and need to get out immediately. This pedal is the only one that works. I have owned Time ATACs, Speedplay Frogs, and others. This is the best. Times have no spring tension adjustment, which spells broken bones for lighter riders. The Speedplays have no forward release (even scarier). | | Weaknesses: | I wish it was a little lighter. No pedal works very well in mud, including Time ATACs. | | Similar Products Used: | All | | Bike Setup: | DBR V-8 with XTR | | Bottom Line: | Buy them! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nomo Somo
a Cross Country Rider
from Texas
Date Reviewed: June 6, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Similar Products Used: | Bontragter RE-1 | | Bottom Line: | They work good, about the same as the Bontrager RE-1 I had before, but the cleat has about 1/32" vertical travel when clipped in, resulting in a miserable taptaptap while spinning. My Bontrager RE-1's did not do this, and my neighbors 747s have the same slop. I would not have bought them if I knew about this. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Silent Bob
a Cross Country Rider
from Federal Way, Wa
Date Reviewed: May 31, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Victor Falls / SeaTac South | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Great design-
releases when you need to bail-
holds on tight when you don't-
smooth like butter- | | Weaknesses: | N/A | | Similar Products Used: | icon solemates(HORRIBLE)
old Shimano 737's | | Bike Setup: | 1999 Trek 7000 | | Bottom Line: | The best pedal out there...LBS said that shimano is no longer making them...so buy them NOW!
Unlike other pedals than can sense fear and only hold on tighter when you need to get out the most, these will always let you out (and in) with ease (but they never release when you don't want them to).
Oh yea, STATION WAGONS ARE COOL!!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Brian
a Cross Country Rider
from Knoxville
Date Reviewed: May 31, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | your momma | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Bottom Line: | Shimano made stuff rocks. I got these pedals from pricepoint for $79 They gave me a problem when i got into semi wet dirt on a hill and it clogged up my shoes and i banged my shoes on em for about 5 min. to get all the dirt off. Cool design Release when I want em to. Actually release when i fall too. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike
a Cross Country Rider
from Antioch, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: May 29, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Ridge Tr. | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Durable, real ball bearings, consistent ease of entry and exit. | | Weaknesses: | Platform too small, gooey mud performance. | | Similar Products Used: | Shimano 737s. | | Bike Setup: | Cannondale hard tail with 8 speed full-sized drive train. | | Bottom Line: | I went back to my 737s because the small size of the platform put a pressure point on the bottom of my feet. Basically, only the cleat area (not the pedal body) bears on the sole of the shoe. Otherwise, they are an improvement over the 737s, as they are lighter and have float and I think they are a little easier to clip in and out of. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
kevin
a Weekend Warrior
from California
Date Reviewed: May 16, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | trials | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | smooth spring action... easy in, easy out... they let you bail out when you panic and never come out when you dont want them to | | Weaknesses: | too hard to adjust | | Similar Products Used: | straps | | Bike Setup: | trek Y3 spins... XTRs | | Bottom Line: | great pedals... for the money cant beat them... the durability is outstanding and they can be covered in mud and will still function well... i love how when im going to eat it... they always let me out and ive never had a problem with be stuck to the pedals... or had them come out when i dont want them to... buy them if you are into the cross country... they will last forever | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
sirt
a Cross Country Rider
from middle island, NY, USA
Date Reviewed: April 26, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Rocky Point | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Shed mud
Easy engagement/disengagement
| | Weaknesses: | NONE
a little pricey, but you get what you pay for. | | Bike Setup: | Haro extreme: XTR, Judy XC w/englund, Mavic 517's, Avid 50 brakes, Fire XC pro's. | | Bottom Line: | These pedals had no problems what so ever with mud! Through mud bogs my entire bike was caked with mud, but these pedals just shed it away! Easy to click in & click out too! Well worth the 90 bucks I shelled out for them! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris
a Cross Country Rider
from Newark DE
Date Reviewed: April 16, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Easy in & out. Not too costly. Not too heavy | | Weaknesses: | none so far | | Similar Products Used: | just standard Pedals that the bike came with (junk!) | | Bike Setup: | '99 Rockhopper | | Bottom Line: | This is my first pair of clipless and I have had no trouble what so ever. I was a little nervous at first but they are actually so much easier than the pedals with toe clips! My advise to all of the new users it to make it as loose as you can until you can grasp the feel and you shouldn't have any problems! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
tyler hester
a Racer
from San Anselmo
Date Reviewed: April 13, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Pine Mt. | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | This is the classic great pedal. I have had them since the summer of 98 and never once have they been impaired by mud. They are light and easily adjustable. | | Weaknesses: | There are none. I guess if you had to buy new pedals you might want to go for the new 858s. | | Similar Products Used: | CODA crap pedals. | | Bike Setup: | Sugar 1 | | Bottom Line: | This is a great pedal as all of the other reviews demostrate and I don't think that you need any more compliments. My problem is with the idiot beneath me who is reviewing these pedals and giving them three chilis becuase nashbar is running some crap deal. WHAT THE HELL. Don't friggen review them if you have not ridden them. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Scott
a Cross Country Rider
from Pine Grove, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: March 27, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Haven't used, see below. | | Bottom Line: | I just ordered a set of these from Nashbar. First, Nashbar claims they come with the SILVER cleats, not the blacks as noted in previous review. I don't have them yet, but I suppose I trust the sales person. Second, these pedals were listed for $79 in the winter Nashbar catalog but are now $150 in the Spring catalog! What's going on here? I checked Performance and they show $99 which is what Nashbar used to show as list price. After haggling with Nashbar, I got them for $99. Shop around - Caveat Emptor. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
jack
a Weekend Warrior
from Berkeley, California
Date Reviewed: March 27, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Excellent reliable pedal with predictable release | | Weaknesses: | Comes with dangerous black single release cleats - safer silver multiple release cleats are available for a separate additional charge. | | Bike Setup: | ancient touring bike | | Bottom Line: | BIG CAVEAT/CAUTION: These pedals come with one of two kinds of cleats - single release (black) or multi-release (silver). The black cleats come out only with a heel rotation of a fixed number of degrees. The silver come out with any motion other than pedaling and are safe and convenient. The black cleats will gladly rip your leg off in an unexpected fall - the silver come right off.
The scam is that Shimano and/or Nashbar sells the pedals with the black single release cleats included. They charge an additional $15 for the much safer and more convenient silver multi-release cleats. Endangering your customers to scrape an extra $15 bucks off them is slimy and treacherous.
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Submitted by
KUHL
a Racer
from Mechanicsburg PA
Date Reviewed: February 6, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | they do what there supposed to do
There tuffer then anything i tried before
The let the mud out easily | | Weaknesses: | absolutley none | | Similar Products Used: | bontranger RE1, Icon, Richey, flat pedals | | Bike Setup: | trek 9.9 full xtr with superfly | | Bottom Line: | these things rule they do exactly what there supposed to do. They havent let me down yet. I ride these in dry,muddy and snowy conditions. I will never buy another type of pedal. I don't know what that idiot said two reviews down, Clippless pedals arn't just for bunnyhopping they keep you feet on on desends so your feet don't fly and and hit something, so I think you have no idea what your taking about. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Little Bear
a Cross-Country Rider
from Singapore
Date Reviewed: January 4, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
very easy in & out rather alright | | Weaknesses: |
a little bit difficult to get out when there's a bit of build-up of dirt/mud (you have to twist more firmly, pushing into the front) | | Similar Products Used: |
PD M636 | | Bike Setup: |
Schwinn Paramount
Raleigh M80/Rockshox Indy S | | Bottom Line: | I've used the 747s for my ATB as well as my road-bike .. entry & exit is easy .. also this pedal has a low clearance for cornering .. it's solid .. spring tensions are better than the 636s, it's light as well (which counts for a lot) | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Clipless Suck
a Weekend Warrior
from Cliplesslesston
Date Reviewed: November 27, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
anywhere clipless aren'y | | Duration Product Used: |
more than 3 years | | Strengths: |
none | | Weaknesses: |
people think they r good because they can hop 2 feet but it is only because they r clipped in. be a real rider, not a chump that uses clipless. | | Similar Products Used: |
everything | | Bike Setup: |
better than urs | | Bottom Line: | ok, listen to this, even if you hate wha i have wroten. i was a clipless freak once, a long long time ago. and then i realized i was hook, i depended on those things. FREE YOURSELF AND LOOSE THE CLIPLESS!!!!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Craig
a Weekend Warrior
from Manchester, England
Date Reviewed: November 21, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
Appearance.
Click upon entry.
Sealed bearings.
Still work well in muddy conditions, not perfectly like in the dry, but well enough.
Better than the 535s (LX) which were far better than the different VPs I've tried. | | Weaknesses: |
Possibly surpassed by the 535s in value for money, nearly twice the price. | | Similar Products Used: |
535 LX pedals (owned & used for 9 months then upgraded to 747XT)
Different VP pedals | | Bike Setup: |
Coyote HT3, Z3 Light | | Bottom Line: | Excellant quality of pedalwith a price to match. If money is an object consider the 535LX pedals. LX is slightly heavier, lacking sealed bearings and in a crappy black colour but costs about 50% less. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave V.
a Racer
from Toronto, ON
Date Reviewed: November 8, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Strengths: |
Easy entry and exit.
Incredible durability. | | Weaknesses: |
Cartridge bearings would be nice, but I really haven't had any problems with the current setup. | | Similar Products Used: |
Shimano 525, 535. Ritchey Logic. | | Bike Setup: |
Rocky Mountain Altitude. | | Bottom Line: | These pedals are one of the best purchases that I have ever made. 2 full MTB and cyclocross seasons and these pedals work like new. I rarely ride in the mud, but when I have, the performace of the 747s is acceptable. Shimano does use ball bearings but I have not yet had to rebuild the axle assembly. For the price, you really can't go wrong with this pedal. I just purchased a pair of 858s a few weeks ago and I hope they perform just as well. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jeff
a Racer
from Breckenridge, CO
Date Reviewed: October 17, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Bottom Line: | These are great in every condition except the mud. Entry is very difficult when the pedal/cleats pack up with mud. But in dry/normal conditions they are the best. Spring tension adjustment is nice. I just did a couple cross races in the mud. These pedals sucked in the mud. Probably going to buy Time ATACs real soon b/c of their performance in the mud. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Filip
a Weekend Warrior
from De Pinte
Date Reviewed: October 10, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Bouillon | | Duration Product Used: |
more than 3 years | | Strengths: |
durbility-ease/quick of exit-sealed cartridge | | Weaknesses: |
Small platform | | Similar Products Used: |
- | | Bike Setup: |
different bikes. Use them also on my road bike. | | Bottom Line: | Like them very much. Only the price was high when I bought them. Now (11/99) they are selling rthem for only 40 ECU. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
gary
a Racer
from san diego, ca
Date Reviewed: September 13, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
price
durbility
ease of exit
availability of parts
sealed cartridge
product reputation | | Weaknesses: |
weight compared to frogs, atac carbons | | Similar Products Used: |
535's
performance brand | | Bike Setup: |
stumpy M2 9.0sl SXti | | Bottom Line: | replacement for my aging 535's
resons I opted for the 747's versus the Time ATAC's:
1. ease of exit
2. positive rotational release
3. price
4. durability (from reviews I have read)
5. reputation
6. I liked my 535's a bunch
7. i ride in the dusty socal desert which lacks mud | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Harvey Fujimoto
a Weekend Warrior
from Wheat Ridge, CO
Date Reviewed: September 9, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Elk Meadow | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
Easy clip-in, relatively light, float feature | | Weaknesses: |
Small platform | | Similar Products Used: |
Shimano 727's | | Bike Setup: |
Dean Colonel titanium hardtail, Marzocchi Z2 Atom Bomb | | Bottom Line: | This pedal is very easy to clip into and yet does not seem to release easily if not needed. The advertised 8 degrees of float is much appreciated by my knees, although the float sometimes cancels out any body english you might otherwise be able to apply to the bike. I immediately noticed how much better these perform than my old 727's, and I originally thought they were good pedals. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dennis
a Cross-Country Rider
from your Hellertown, PA.
Date Reviewed: September 8, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
South Moutain, Bethlehem | | Duration Product Used: |
more than 3 years | | Strengths: |
Durability | | Weaknesses: |
too small a platform | | Similar Products Used: |
first clipless | | Bike Setup: |
fat chance ( buckshaver) with judy xc shock | | Bottom Line: | I have had these puppies for 5 yrs. The only complaint I have is that the platform is so small I feel as though I'm putting my power into a 50 cent piece. Other than that I have beat these pedals off everything on the trail an only the paint has worn off. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ozzie
a Weekend Warrior
from Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Date Reviewed: August 18, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
Adjustable tension
Good all around (mud, water, etc.)
Durable | | Weaknesses: |
Heavy | | Similar Products Used: |
None, this is the first. | | Bike Setup: |
98' Joshua XO, Rock Shox Judy T2, Rock Shox Deluxe Rear, Shimano STX/LX/XT Grouppo, Spinergy Rev-X-Roks wheels. | | Bottom Line: | These are awesome pedals for beginners. I love the adjustable tension spring, but hard to find the proper allen key to adjust the tension. So far, it holds me in in all conditions except for heavy mud. Have to give it 4 stars coz' it's way too heavy for my taste. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jochen Stadler
a Cross-Country Rider
from Austria
Date Reviewed: August 11, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
more than 3 years | | Strengths: |
perfect performance, durable | | Weaknesses: |
didn´t find any | | Similar Products Used: |
/37, Ritchey (see there) | | Bike Setup: |
different ones with the same pedals (Parkpre, Zaskar, MTB Cycletech) | | Bottom Line: | After 3 Years of abusing them severely I tried Ritchey for they looked good, but aftera few minutes they were broken - so I am going back to Shimano 747 | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Shrike
a Cross-Country Rider
from Washington DC
Date Reviewed: August 6, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
None in particular | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Weaknesses: |
The ends scratch quite easily and the look like hell after only a few rides. | | Similar Products Used: |
My first clipless... | | Bike Setup: |
Trek 7000, XT/XTR, Manitou SXR | | Bottom Line: | I love them. These are my first clipless pedals and I have had nary a problem. I have been in medium mud with them nothing really thick yet so the jury is still out(we are in the middle of a severe drought thus no mud).Overall excellent pedals. Make sure not to pay full retail. Sales are good. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Uncle Fats
a Weekend Warrior
from New Jersey
Date Reviewed: July 31, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Ringwood NJ | | Duration Product Used: |
more than 3 years | | Strengths: |
durability | | Weaknesses: |
mud | | Similar Products Used: |
Ritchys
535's 636's | | Bike Setup: |
Same pedals on last 2 of my bikes | | Bottom Line: | I bought these in '97 and i've been riding these for 3 years. I cracked a frame, but still haven't broken these. I wiegh 200 and have never had problems with flex or broken parts. I only put greese in the bearings once when i was bord. These pedals rock!!!!! Only one problem-i wore the shimano logo of the side-but they still work perfect!!!!!! SHIMANO RULES AND SO DO THESE PEDALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Noel
a Cross-Country Rider
from Tempe
Date Reviewed: July 29, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
SunTop/ShookumFlat | | Duration Product Used: |
more than 3 years | | Strengths: |
Durability
easy entry and exit | | Weaknesses: |
weight | | Similar Products Used: |
onza's and ritchey's | | Bike Setup: |
Titus Quasi Moto, and light bunch of stuffs | | Bottom Line: | I've had mine since they first hit the market (4 or 5 years ago?) and still haven't had any service done to it. They are so banged up that I can't even reconized it. But they still perform like new. Does anyone know when the new shimano 747's (or whatever the new name will be) pedals are coming out? | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
bill shick
a Cross-Country Rider
from morganpoo w.v
Date Reviewed: July 20, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
quebec run | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
works well in dry conditions, decent float | | Weaknesses: |
sucks in any kind of mudd | | Similar Products Used: |
got the time atacs now and they are much better | | Bike Setup: |
cannonwhale hardtail | | Bottom Line: | o.k pedals if you never ride in the mud, if you do decide to ride or race in the mud be prepared to ride without clipping in or out when you want to, this pedal obviously not tested outside the lab in muddy situations | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tim Tucker
a Cross-Country Rider
from England
Date Reviewed: July 13, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
Sealed bearings, light, work well, very reliable. | | Weaknesses: |
None, except the cheaper M535's are pretty good too! | | Similar Products Used: |
VP104, M535 | | Bike Setup: |
98 Marin Mt Vision | | Bottom Line: | These replaced the VP's that came with my Marin as I couldn't get spare VP cleats easily. Have used them for a year in all sorts of conditions. Totally reliable product. Lose one chilli as M535's are good too!!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
L. Myers
a Cross-Country Rider
from Sacramento, CA
Date Reviewed: July 7, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Strengths: |
Extremely durable and very reliable | | Weaknesses: |
That they can't grow bigger on a technical downhill | | Similar Products Used: |
Performance brand pedals, Shimano M545's | | Bike Setup: |
Rocky Mountain Element w/Zoke A-Bomb front & Fox Alps 5 rear | | Bottom Line: | Just a great pedal. I've ridden them hard in all types of conditons for more than two years now and have rarely had a problem with them. Spring tension is pretty consistent in all conditions. I did have one pedal lock up a little in a really muddy situation but otherwise the have been great. I did have an axle loosen up a bit but thanks to the beauty of servicable axles my LBS was able to service it and now it's in perfect working order. No signs of significant deterioration after two years. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nick
a Cross-Country Rider
from Northridge
Date Reviewed: June 23, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
clips in butter smooth...very tough...nice tension adjustment dial | | Weaknesses: |
none yet | | Bike Setup: |
Snta Cruz Bullit | | Bottom Line: | this is what clipless pedals are all about! clips in easy, keeps you in tight. And i love the tension adjustment dial because it clicks every about 1/3 turn. I live in South Cali. so i haven't been able to ride these in rain yet. amazing pedals with shimano quailty. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nadd
a Weekend Warrior
from Denver, CO
Date Reviewed: June 4, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
more than 3 years | | Strengths: |
Reliability, quality, ease of entry/exit | | Weaknesses: |
Not so great in mud. (Is there really a good pedal in mud? Especially play-dough thick mud?) | | Similar Products Used: |
Ritchy, Wellgo, Time | | Bike Setup: |
Trek Y-22, X-vert R, Fox Alps4, XTRVooDoo Zobop SX-R, Cane Creek AD10, XT/XTR | | Bottom Line: | I bought these pedals for my first bike, a DiamondBack Vertex, in '95. I switched them over to my Trek when I bought it in '96 and have been riding them since. Other than replacing cleats several times (normal with any pedal), I have never done one bit of maintenance to the pedals. They have never failed me or ruined a ride, regardless of the conditions, and I have absolutely beat the living hell out of them. They don't look so hot after 4 years of bashing them repeatedly into roots, trees, waterbars and rocks, but they work almost as good as they did on day one. Take complaints about poor performance in mud with a grain of salt because there really isn't a pedal made that performs great when conditions are that bad. These pedals are reasonably light, well-made and will take years of punishment while providing excellent performance. You can get 'em for $90 mail-order, and that ain't too shabby considering you're getting such a proven, reliable product. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ricksom
a Cross-Country Rider
from Toronto, Canada
Date Reviewed: June 4, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
-Easy entry
-Designed for durability
-Works well | | Weaknesses: |
-Fairly expensive
-Not good for playdough thick mud | | Similar Products Used: |
Ritchey | | Bike Setup: |
Rocky Hammer with XT/LX | | Bottom Line: | Excellent pedals. Exceeded my expectations.
They are especially so effortless in clicking in with Shimano shoes (no kidding). My shoes (Shimano) always quickly find their way back into the clips, even on nasty technical singletrack.
They have an apparent quality engineering design without the reliance of bearingless bushings.With the addition of generous float and easy servicability, this pedal is a good high-end component investment. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Robert MacKie
a Cross-Country Rider
from Atlanta, GA
Date Reviewed: May 15, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
unbstead, nc | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
Effortless entry and exit
I have never ridden clipless until today
These pedals are easier to get in and out of than my regular pedals with straps! | | Weaknesses: |
retail price (hint - don't pay retail! shop around!) | | Similar Products Used: |
straps | | Bike Setup: |
giant atx 970 (full suspension)
manitou spyder r shocks
stx-rc components | | Bottom Line: | I paid $89.00 for these pedals at performancebike.com and for that price they are totally awesome - had I paid full retail I might expect them to be lighter - big deal | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave
a Cross-Country Rider
from Sacramento, CA
Date Reviewed: May 4, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Salmon falls | | Duration Product Used: |
more than 3 years | | Strengths: |
durability, quality of construction | | Weaknesses: |
Cost and they really don't work well at all in mud. | | Similar Products Used: |
onza HOs | | Bike Setup: |
C'dale F700 hardtail | | Bottom Line: | overall i've been very happy with these pedals but they stink in mud. I raced at Napa this year and it was a mudfest. i had to literally stop several times to clear out my pedals and cleats because I just couldn't get them to clip in. In the dry I've never had a problem but when the going gets wet... forget it. Luckily for me I live in sunny california and don't spend that much time in the mud. If I did, i'd probably look for some new pedals. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
T.R.
a Cross-Country Rider
from Germany
Date Reviewed: April 20, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Strengths: |
The PDM 747 pedal works well in most conditions. You can click in and click out fast and easily. The bearings are excellent and durable and the sealing is good. It offers a great range of spring tension adjustment, from very soft to very hard. You have a safe connection to the pedal in every situation, it does not click out, if you don't want it to do so. | | Weaknesses: |
It's a little bit on the heavy side. It does not like mud very much. If it is extremly muddy, you have problems to get into the pedal.
| | Similar Products Used: |
I tried the older 737 Shimano pedals and the Ritchey WCS logic pedal.
The Ritchey pedal is lightweight, but it's bearings and sealings are not very durable, perhaps because of the weak Ti spindle. Moreover the increasing of the spring tension does not influence the click-out mechanism of the pedal,if you click out, it feels nearly the same no matter if the spring rate was high or low, the spring rate only influences the click-in mechanism. mechanism. | | Bike Setup: |
XTR-equipped hardtail | | Bottom Line: | The 747 is a very durable pedal, which works well in most situations, only in mud it's difficult to click in the pedal, if your cleats are muddy and the pedal is full of dirt, too. I give it 4 stars, because of the bad entrance in muddy conditions. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Steve
a Cross-Country Rider
from Croton,N.y
Date Reviewed: April 8, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Strengths: |
strong as a mof%#$#@
The most positive engagment
Shimino | | Weaknesses: |
Fair in the muck
A little heavy | | Similar Products Used: |
535,s, bebops,times, girvins,richies | | Bike Setup: |
Ellsworth TRUTH
Beyond xtr | | Bottom Line: | I keep trying other pedals. I keep coming back to these. They are the most consistant with engagment and release.I constantly slam them into rocks and they don,t care. I know when I want to rip the bike up and over things I WOUNT come unclipped. I haven't had to touch them after 2 years of very had thrashing. Who else can say that my freind! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Richard
a Weekend Warrior
from Auckland, New Zealand
Date Reviewed: April 6, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
tested or demo'ed only | | Strengths: |
Lightweight and easy to get into and out of when conditions are dry | | Weaknesses: |
Clog up in wet muddy and or sandy conditions (which New Zealand has a lot of!) | | Similar Products Used: |
Icon/Wellgo
Time ATAC | | Bike Setup: |
Marin Hardtail | | Bottom Line: | As good as the 747s are, they're very expensive and in wet conditions (e.g. NZ, UK etc.) I find the Time ATACs are better as they don't clog up and are easier to get into when the going gets tough. Possibly the 747s shine in drier climates like the US, Australia, South Africa etc. I'm giving three chillies for NZ conditions on account of the above comments and the 747s very high price | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Denis
a Weekend Warrior
from Singapore
Date Reviewed: March 26, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Mandai | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
Easy to clip in/out | | Weaknesses: |
Scratches the outside of the pedal | | Bike Setup: |
Cannondale SV900
DD60(shock) | | Bottom Line: | It's great, it's cool!!If you've not tried it yet, you've gotta get a pair soon!!Deserves more than 5 chillies!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tommy Southiv
a Weekend Warrior
from Tennessee
Date Reviewed: March 18, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Hamilton Creek | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
easy to get in and out | | Weaknesses: |
could be lighter | | Bike Setup: |
99 litespeed obed
z2 bam
xtr derrailers
xtr v-brakes
avid brake levers
gripshift x-ray 800
xtr hubs
raceface bottom bracket
kore lite 3 stem
titec titanium handlebar
dean titanium seat post
flite saddle
coda crank | | Bottom Line: | These peddles are awesome! I have a couple of friends that have other clipless such as ritchey or other brands and they would over wreck because they can't get out of their peddles. They would also complain that they can't get in, or have unwanted releases, but not with these peddles. They're the best! They're easy to clip on and easy to get out. Although mud is a problem, they do really well compared to other peddles. They're definitely a good buy. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Gar
a cross-country rider
from Kitchener
Date Reviewed: March 12, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
747 pedals have that resounding click that makes then awesome in wet and dry conditions. I bought a new bike with Tioga clipman pedals and they sucked!
I still have my 737's and they still work well too. But the finish and the performance of the 747's rock! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike
a cross-country rider
from Oklahoma City
Date Reviewed: March 9, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
These things work great in dry weather, and not too shabby in the wet. Performance overall is excellent other than some unintended disengagements, which can probably happen with any pedal.But... what's with the plastic retention collar on the axle? Talk about cheap. After six months, I managed to crack and break both pedals' plastic parts on rock, which allows the muck to get into the spindle assemby. Other pedals have all alloy or steel parts, which do not break on rocks.I replaced the 747s with Bontrager RE-1s. They seem to work as well and don't have plastic parts. I've only had them a month, so I hesitate to call them better pedals yet.Five chilis for dry weather, four for wet, and one for durability. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jason
a cross-country rider
from Brookfield, WI
Date Reviewed: March 5, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
These aren't considered to be the best by a lot for no reason. I have had the same pair for three seasons of heavy use. They have remained very reliable, with only adjustment on the bearings needed once. They are easy to get in and out of, work reasonbly well in mud/snow, and are a comfortable platform for the shoe. One time I had shyed away from clipless. But now I know you just need good pedals. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tim
a weekend warrior
from Colorado USA
Date Reviewed: February 27, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
Shimano 747s will take you anywhere. They are great pedals (should be for the price) for any kind of condition. Things can get scary in mud, bu other than that, these pedals will do whatever you ask them to do-and they will do it with precision. I couldn't stop smiling for the first few days after I got them, and I wanted to take them everywhere that my older pedals (don't even ask what kind) couldn't handle. Made hard, technical biking much easier. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dasher
a weekend warrior
from Missouri
Date Reviewed: February 15, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
I use a combination of the 747 and Sidi Tecno on my bike. I've been having the worst time in the mud. I did a face plant on a slab of rock when I couldn't clip out. I cut the studs on the shoes where it contacts the pedal body with an X-acto, and now it works like a charm even in mud. Forget about spending money on Time pedals, just make sure there is clearance between the pedal and the shoes! I swear it makes all the difference. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
SqUiRm
a weekend warrior
from Springfield, MO
Date Reviewed: February 5, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
I am just getting ready to change from toe clips to clipless pedals.(hey, im only 13) I was wandering if the Shimano m747's were good and easy for beginners. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE email me with your comments. Jermsquirm@hotmail.com | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris
a cross-country rider
from UK
Date Reviewed: January 21, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
These pedals are fantastic. Okay, they are not the lightest, but then niether are they heavy. Engagement is fantastic, although mud can cause minor probs. Bearing is very good. A BIG improvement on my old OnZa HO's. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nick Ries
a cross-country rider
from Novato
Date Reviewed: January 20, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
These pedals are super for dry riding where you aren't having to clip and
unclip because of tough spots on steep hills or other obstacles where you
need to hit the pedal fast to get going again. They are very bad pedals
in slippery conditions especially when you need to hit the crank to start
on a steep hill. I still give them a high rating because what you see is
what you get with this pedal. That is a dependable pedal that is light for
people that can hit the sweet spot the first try. Mud wise they are okay
but there are better pedals for mud. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Phil
a weekend warrior
from HOT AZ
Date Reviewed: January 11, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
Before embarrASSinfg yourselves any more by b@#$%ing about the mud and snow. First thing don't ride in snow unless you plan on detroying & replacing other precious parts. Before you venture in mud improve your skills and don't put your foot in the mud ...you rookies. Secondly ALL clipless SUCK in the mud and snow.
Thridly if your riding that much in the snow and mud you've got bigger problems wheeel clogging, replacing chains, headsets, bottem brackes, and chain rings.
my advice is stick with the 747's and MOVE !!! to a better climate. If you cant move go buy some old fashsion bmx pedals. God Bless Shimano for developing such a fine product all others are perpitrators ! Five PHATTIE-RED-HOT-Habernarro Chillies | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Sean Graham
a cross-country rider
from WA
Date Reviewed: January 10, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
I have ridden MANY pedals... from nashbar, to scott's, to welgo, to onzas
to Time atac's.... AND NOTHING BEATS THE M747!
Sure people complain about mud... heres a little tip... dont put your
foot in the mud, and keep your parts clean... even time atac's clog
5 PHAT CHILI'S! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris
a cross-country rider
from Bellingham, Washington
Date Reviewed: January 9, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
Owned a pair of Richeys, and could never get them as tight as I wanted. Upgraded to 747's, and have not had a single problem with them at all. Have been riding them for 2 years, and they stay tight!
5 big chili's! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tony D
a cross-country rider
from Vancouver, WA
Date Reviewed: January 1, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
I don't think there are wetter, muddier conditions to be found nearly year-round in the US than in this area. We have nasty clay so thick that it will literally lock up your wheels in 5 minutes (what we call Gumby mud). I read a lot of reviews about how bad this pedal does in adverse conditions----though there is a decline in the ability to clip in, it isn't nearly as bad as people make it out. Make sure you have plenty of clearance around your cleat and even in the worst conditions I get in on the first or second try. After a pretty continual bashing, my pedals look like hell but are still working well. About my only gripe is that I keep my pedals pretty much on the tightest setting but it's still not that hard to get out.4 1/2 stars out of mud & snow, 3 3/4 stars in the really nasty stuff | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
SuperChunk
a cross-country rider
from Sterling, VA US of A
Date Reviewed: December 28, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I've been riding Shimano's 747 for over a year. Over all the pedal has performed well in relieable conditions. Throw in some mud or snow and performace drops quickly. Four Chili's for dry conditions and two Chili's for extream conditions. Average it out and you got three Chili's. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Steve
a cross-country rider
from Vt
Date Reviewed: December 26, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
These pedals are bombproof as far as hammering bedrock or anything immovable. They are highly H2O-proof, with bearing clearance set-up extremely simple (when re-packing). Flawless operation in clean conditions but mud is a problem. When setting the spring release tension higher to avoid pre-release while banging off-road- you run a big risk of a face plant in muddy conditions(cleats not releasing) My question is: is there a better pedal out there for use in mud? | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
mike madlem
a weekend warrior
from marietta, ga 30066
Date Reviewed: December 14, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have been riding my pair of 747s for over a year now without any mechanical problems. When I converted from toe clips to clipless pedals, I about ended my ability to mountain bike. I made the mistake of having the tension set to tight and could not clip out in time thus my knee slammed into a tree and my aluminum frame pile drived the other side. After several hundreds later and months of rest, my body was back to 85-90%. The pedals were not damaged at all (Yee ha!), but my body sure in the hell was. Shimano should make it easier to adjust the pedals by idiot proofing them. Make a setting for 1. beginners 2. intermediates 3. experts 4. pro Overall since becoming used to the clipless pedal experience the Shimanos have been flawless even after numerous wrecks in the beginning. 4 star rating because of the problems I experienced in the beginning. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Sean
a weekend warrior
from Elon College
Date Reviewed: October 5, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
These pedals are reasonably reliable but they clip out uexpectedly once in a while. Especially bunny hopping if not done perfectly and at the right time can cause them to pop out. I also had a problem with them gripping the cleat to tightly and because of the 8 degrees of float they shook the cleat loose causing me to loose a screw. Then it was impossible to release. Overall they are easy to clip into and ok to clip out of but under those nice biking conditions they aren't quite what they cracked up to be.At least i didn't pay the 180$ price tag and got them at half price or I would be taking them back. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Phil
a weekend warrior
from Denver, CO
Date Reviewed: October 2, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have been quite happy with the performance of these pedals, except in mud. Most of the time I click in without even trying. Getting out can be tough with mud or even dry grit on the pedals. The range of release effort from clean and lubed to dry and dirty, even during the course of one ride, is rather annoying.I am very unhappy with the maintenance aspects. I bent one of the rear hoops that holds the cleat, and cannot find a replacement part. The plastic bushings are worn, so there is a lot of slop between the pedals and spindles, but I cannot find a source for new plastic bushings. I would have to buy new spindle assemblies, at $30 per pedal, and I think that is just the wholesale price.When the slop gets too annoying (spindles and the cleat slop due to the bent hoop), I will replace them with Time ATAC's.I hear this is typical for Shimano products-the high cost and limited availability of replacement parts. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tristan
a cross-country rider
from United States, CA
Date Reviewed: September 15, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I purchased these pedals after I tried a friend's out and his constant These kick ass !, you have to get them ! I think they are lousy pieces of shit !!! Ok I'm a little angry because of that little mishap earlier. I was climbing a hill with some loose sand and ate it unexpectedly and had no time to unclip. My kneed was covered in blood ! Oh well, they are easy to clip in and relatively easy to clip out. | | Overall Rating: |
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