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Submitted by
Barkleyfan
a Cross Country Rider
from Iowa
Date Reviewed: October 4, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Shirley Meadows | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$100.00 | | Purchased At: | Cedar Valley Sports | | Bike Setup: | 1996 Trek 830 rebuilt in 1998 with STX-RC shifters, LX rear derailleur, stock Xterra front, XT M-system canti's, Mavic 221 rims on LX silent hub, Sugino cranks | | Bottom Line: | I've been riding this setup for 10 years, I weigh 240lbs, and the hubs have never even been lubed. Standing up to a Clyde like me for 10 years is impressive for any component. Doing so without being maintained properly is a statement.
These wheels are light enough for XC, yet sturdy enough for all mountain, engagement is quick and crisp, and the only sound from my bike going sown the trail is the hum of the tread, and a little chain slap.
Well worth the money spent. LX components have always been a reliable workhorse group, while remaining at a replaceable pricepoint. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
travis pynn
a Cross Country Rider
from SF California USA
Date Reviewed: May 25, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | 428 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | Inexpensive, smooth running, bomber with grat seals and they come with light weight aluminum quick relaeses | | Weaknesses: | Not the supper high quality of the higher end hubs, but 90% the performance at substantially less cost. | | Similar Products Used: | I have many hours on the entire Shimano line | | Bike Setup: | Seven Salsa cycles, built back when Ross owned the shop/company | | Bottom Line: | I have been listing five sets of these hubs each week on ebay.com They are brand new, 32 hole front and rear and come with aluminum quick releases. A total of five HUBSETS and Ten QR'S. They have been selling at around $50.oo each aution. Take a look if you are interested.
"This auction is for Five pair of Brand New Shimano Deore Mountain Bike Hubs,a total of ten hubs, and ten quick releases. These are brand new Shimano FH-M750 & Shimano HB-M570 9speed casssette hubs. The hubs are 32 hole front and rear and they incluse a set of quick release for each hub set as well. These are inexpensive, very high quality hubs that have a tremndous reputation for offering a lot of quality at a very affordable price point. These would be great for an fixer upper or as spare parts, or upgrades to a rental fleet. The QR's alone are almost $20 a set retail. Not to mention the Freehubs and cones, and all of the small parts."
Thanks,
Travis | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Eric
a Weekend Warrior
from Tally, FL, US
Date Reviewed: March 20, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | ebay | | Strengths: | Light, and strong! | | Weaknesses: | None yet | | Bike Setup: | Fetish cycles fixation, set up as an urban assualt bike. | | Bottom Line: | These are the lightest hubs I've seen in a long time. I beat mine in an urban,dj,trials way and they probably arent designed for this but they are holding up remarkibly. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
American Lesion
a Cross Country Rider
from Venango Co. PA USA
Date Reviewed: December 29, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | Allegheny, Oil Crk. E. Sandy Crk Trl. (PA), Farmer's Lp. & Chena Pump Rd Trl. (AK) | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$20.00 | | Purchased At: | Alpine Haus (Fairbanks, AK) | | Strengths: | Requires little maintenance, tough beyond words regardless of what some component abusers would say. | | Weaknesses: | Its made by the monopolistic big-S. This isn't so good. My hubs are 7-spd so they are OLD Deore LX (back when Deore DX was a mountain group...say 1990 or '91?) | | Similar Products Used: | Exage M350, Deore, Formula, Joy Tech, Sansin, Suntour XC Pro, Sovos, Altus, Acera, Alivio, Specialized hubs | | Bike Setup: | This model: Royce Union Aluminuma Series 7005 Aluminum frameset, Sunrace M30 Cyclops shifters, Sunrace M60 Rear Derailleur, Acera-X front derailleur, Deore LX hubs, Suntour 7spd cassette, SRAM chain, Specialized GX-26 rims, Kenda tires, DT Swiss spokes, Alloy nipples, Specialized Son-of-a-Strongarm crank, LX and Avitar chainrings, Ritchey clipless pedals, Titec bars, JD Suspension stem, Ascent bar ends, Avid brake levers, Scott-Pederson SE Brake Levers, SR Duotrack fork, Kalloy Seatpost, SDG saddle | | Bottom Line: | These things last and last and last and last and last. I've TRIED to demolish mine. The bad reviews? Well, keep this in mind: I haven't kept up with maintenance. They've been exposed to Alaskan and Pennsylvanian winters. Thousands of miles, and the stresses of a cheap fork. Yet they're rolling like they were new.
Deore LX hubs are swell by me....and I'm no Shimano fan. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Matt
a Cross Country Rider
from St. Louis, MO
Date Reviewed: May 26, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | Kokopelli Trail loops in Fruita | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$150.00 | | Purchased At: | Ballwin Cycles | | Strengths: | Durable, no-fuss, relatively inexpensive, clean looks | | Weaknesses: | i suppose one could find lighter hubs... | | Similar Products Used: | rolfs, bontrager, other shimano hubs | | Bike Setup: | franken bike for now, these hubs are laced to Mavic D521 rims w/wheelsmith spokes - the price quoted above is the price of the whole wheelset! | | Bottom Line: | I can't believe the rating that these hubs are getting, as i have not experienced ANY problems yet. the rear hub is running a little coarse, but that is most likely due to it needing a rebuild after more than 2 years.
i weigh 230#s, and i and not really what one would call a "finesse" rider. i really tear the crap out of my stuff, and these hubs haven't given me any problems. In my experience, they are a superb no-frills hub that will not give you any problems and just let you ride. that is exactly what they've done for me. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Paul Alexander Jarvis
a Downhiller
from Cardiff, South Wales.(U.K)
Date Reviewed: February 9, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | The streets of Cardiff, South Wales. | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$70.00 | | Purchased At: | merlin cycles (uk) | | Strengths: | Cheap! | | Weaknesses: | NOT THAT STRONG,good for training hubs. | | Similar Products Used: | TOOO MANY, GONNA SAVE UP FOR HOPE HUBS. | | Bike Setup: | Just finished building my traing rig, Merlin xc frame, black comp 120,blackspire shore headset,head lock, prod stem(white 80mm),ea 50 bars,avid 7 levers,rocket shorty 8 speed shifter,good evil grips,flax jacket + xtr cables,arch rival,prod 2003 seatpost,hope qr,wtb carbonara seat,xt splined b/b,deore cranks custom machined to run single ring,middleburn 32 ring,dmr chain cage,dmr v12,lx rear with rollermag,lx hubs laced to fir w400 rims,intense wedge tyres. | | Bottom Line: | I use these on my training rig,they function very well for this price,not the best for jumps etc.
These are loads better than deore hubs, they run quite smooth. Make sure you service them from time to time, they should hold up.
These hubs do deserve pretty good rims, if you grt them built well they are nice and sweet for the price. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nikolas
a Weekend Warrior
from Greece
Date Reviewed: January 4, 2004 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$100.00 | | Strengths: | Rear hub is ok so far,no weakneses there | | Weaknesses: | a bit heavy.front hub is not good,worked good for about 3-4 moths and after that its as good as my old acera hun.dont know why | | Similar Products Used: | alivio-acera | | Bike Setup: | gt pantera,judy sl,lx-xt | | Bottom Line: | The rear is very good if you are not concerned about weight.The fron however for some mysterius reason is no-good i tried changing the greace to motorex but i discovered that the inner syrface of the hub was to bame maybe i got a problem hub from the factory-dont know.I would prefer a cheaper deore.This is the reason i'm rating them with 3 instead of 4.they are much better than any bontrager-dt garbage however | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Alex
a Cross Country Rider
from Portland, OR, USA
Date Reviewed: June 6, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$65.00 | | Purchased At: | Ebay | | Strengths: | Very smooth cup and cone bearings. Cones made of a very good instrumental grade steel, and they have borozon treated racing surfaces, that contributes to these hubs' over all longevity.
Labirint rubber seals completely isolate water and dust from getting into hubs' innards.
| | Weaknesses: | Shimano manufacturer put very little grease in these hubs. This grease is rather suited for concervation against the rust, rather than for the lubrication. | | Similar Products Used: | Different kinds of generic hubs and other Chinese POS. | | Bike Setup: | Rigid commuter bike for 20mi. every day commute. | | Bottom Line: | This is review for 2002 Shimano LX (HB-M563 Front & FH-565 Parallax Rear) hubs. This is a very good product for non demanding riding applications e.g. long distance commute. They look quite bulky but who cares?
I wouldn't advise to use them for pure MTB applications, but forXC riding they're just fine.
I rode these hubs for over 3K mi without any problems.
I repacked and readjusted its bearing after every 1k mi as a general PM procedure. Just rims wear and failure forced me to switch to spokeless Teny Rim wheelset with sealed cartridge bearings.
I can give one practical advise on these Shimano LX hubs.
As soon as you get them, unscrew its cones and flush out old grease.
Put a plenty of new grease preferably with PTF (e.g. Super Lube at $4 a tube). Readjust cup and cone berings without overtightening them.
Leave just a slight axual play before putting the wheelset the on a bike. When you fully tighten up the skewers, hubs' axual play should go away.
This simple measure will prevent hub damage in a long run.
Some people in their reviews complained about damaged cones and cups. It's a direct result of over tightening the hubs.
This Shimano rear hub have reliable cassette body. Its ratchet mechanism worked flawlesly over a year, although it has only two pawls in it. Some better quality cassette bodies have at least three pawls in its
ratchet mechanisms.
I would advise everybody to periodically libricate rear hub's rachet mechanism with Finish Line Wet lubricant (green cap bottle) as well. The bottom line - buy these hubs but try to chose best rims you can afford with them.
I would say these hubs deserve four solid flaming chilis for its performance and quality.
I can't give them all five chilis 'cause they're loosing big to cartridge bearing hubs I'm riding now.
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Submitted by
Ben Wichterman
a Cross Country Rider
from St. Cloud MN USA
Date Reviewed: May 21, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | PricePoint | | Strengths: | They are inexpensive and work well for their intended usage. | | Weaknesses: | None that I can see for a product in this price range. | | Similar Products Used: | Cheap, low end, shimano hubs that came stock on bike. | | Bike Setup: | 2002 Gary Fisher Marlin Custom | | Bottom Line: | OK, I checked over a lot of reviews written about these hubs and the word seems to be that they are junk. However, I have experienced none of the problems that other riders seems to have had. I live in MN and I ride only during spring, summer and fall. I don't ride in the snow and I stay out of the rain and mud for the most part. This is the second season I have been using these hubs on XC trails with moderate drops. I weigh 145lbs and I ride fairly aggressively. I have not serviced these hubs yet during my use. They have several hundred miles on trails and a couple hundred miles indoor training on them. I think they work great for what they cost. They were a huge improvement over what came stock on my bike. I don't think these hubs were designed to take major beatings so maybe if your into big drops and extremely aggressive riding, look past these and go for XT or probably better XTR. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Luke
a Weekend Warrior
from Sfk, UK
Date Reviewed: April 2, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$30.00 | | Purchased At: | buckley saxon cycles | | Strengths: | I've ridden over 6000 miles over 5 years on these through rain, mud, snow, even floods and they haven't flinched! I'm not a shimano fan at all, but these hubs have been superb! | | Weaknesses: | Axles tend to rust a little, and sealing doesn't look up to the job... but I've never had a problem! | | Similar Products Used: | Hope XC, Shimano XT, STX, Campag Chorus | | Bike Setup: | Zaskar Race, XT, X-Fly 100 | | Bottom Line: | Lube em once a year and they last and last! Try adding an extra ball bearing in the front hub - they come with 10 but 11 fit snugly - no more clicks. Thoroughly recommended! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
George
a Weekend Warrior
from Los Angeles, CA
Date Reviewed: December 17, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Backbone | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$20.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Cheap, came stock on my bike. | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | Specialized Enduro Expert stock | | Bottom Line: | I don't consider myself an aggressive rider my any mean and I ride in dry conditions. I was trying to climb a rocky section of Sulphur Springs trail, couldn't make it, and walked my bike up. When I got back on and rode, I realized that my rear-hub wasn't free wheeling. I had to coast down back to the parking lot with my legs extended to the side so the spinning pedals wouldn't tear up my shins. POS rear hub | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nony Bustamante
a Weekend Warrior
from Manila, Philippines
Date Reviewed: December 4, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Anywhere | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$60.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Looks good. | | Weaknesses: | Not durable. | | Similar Products Used: | Suntour | | Bike Setup: | Hardtail, XT & LX parts. | | Bottom Line: | I've ridden my Mountain bike mostly on paved roads. I was rather surprised when the wheel wasn't spinning smoothly after I've been using the bike for only about 750 miles. I tried to overhaul the hubs, but I was dissappointed to find the axle bearing races to be badly pitted. Shimano should remember to put more grease in their hubs. These hubs are not for aggressive riders. The Suntour hubs on my 15-year old bike still runs smoothly today. I'm now thinking of getting hubs with sealed bearings. | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Saby R
a Weekend Warrior
from Halifax
Date Reviewed: September 23, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | This is a very nice little hub, it will (and has) performend well for its intended purpose. | | Weaknesses: | Considering the price of these hubs compared to XT or XTR, these hubs put and perpective have no apparent weakness. | | Similar Products Used: | XTR | | Bike Setup: | Rocky Mountain cardiac, full XT (beside hubs). | | Bottom Line: | These hubs were originally on my Oxigen Race, I just upgraded them with XTR and hand them down to my girfrined's bike (after fully overalling them...). To get to the point, I rode with these hubs for 4 years (I am not a racer but fairly aggressive) and I have never had a problem with them. I never serviced them until last week and they were still in great shape. I think that the problem most people have is that they outgrow these hubs and start using them for a purpose that they were not intended for IE hard X-country. These hubs won't performed like XT or XTR because they are not made or priced for that. On the other hand they will do great during the transition between being an intermediate rider to a more sereous x-countrier.... I can't give them 5 chilis for overall rating because there are better hubs out there but they are a solid 4 chilis.... | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Adj
a Cross Country Rider
from England
Date Reviewed: September 9, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Karrimor | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | Came with the bike | | Strengths: | None, oh ok they do go around, ish!!! | | Weaknesses: | As soon as they even see mud or water they go dry and loosen up! | | Similar Products Used: | None yet but I have ordered some new Hope hubs | | Bike Setup: | Rocky Mountain Thin Air | | Bottom Line: | These hubs are garbage. They continually need to be re greased, even in the summer. If I go out for a ride in the wet they will have to be re done after every ride. Proper sealed bearings are not expensie so there is no excuse for a manufacture like Shimano to produce garbage like this. Any mountain bike hub that is cup and cone configuration is just not worth the money.
The bottom line, don't waste your money. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bart
a Cross Country Rider
from Colorado
Date Reviewed: August 9, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$25.00 | | Purchased At: | local shop | | Strengths: | Cheap | | Weaknesses: | Not durable | | Similar Products Used: | STX | | Bottom Line: | managed to break (lock) two of these during past 6 months. durability is definitely not their strength... | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
pete
a Racer
from south wales
Date Reviewed: July 29, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Mountain ash | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | chainreaction cycles | | Weaknesses: | the clutch does tend to slip a bit when pedalling vv hard uphill | | Similar Products Used: | hope suspension, | | Bike Setup: | azonic ds1, phsylos, hs 33, | | Bottom Line: | i puchased the hub built onto 521cd and ridden them hard for about a year and no worries, | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Alex
a Racer
from Moscow, Russia
Date Reviewed: July 17, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$45.00 | | Purchased At: | Velomir shop | | Strengths: | Really good rear hub (silent clutch, of course) for trials, if you don't have much money to buy expensive Hope hubs. For it is a roller (i don't know how it is exactly called in english, i mean it's silent clutch :) ). It won't break after pedal kick etc. | | Weaknesses: | Maybe its axis is weak a little bit. One of my friends used it rather intensively for about 10 months (pedal kicks, 2 meters drops etc), at last its axis broke. But everything except the axis was almost new, so he just bought an old LX hub and change a broken axis with the axis from the old one | | Bottom Line: | Really good & rather inexpensive hub for amateur trials ride | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
scott
a Cross Country Rider
from austin - texas
Date Reviewed: April 17, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | any i have time to ride | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Purchased At: | local bike shop | | Strengths: | price,quite,sturdy sound hub | | Weaknesses: | could be made to a higher quality | | Similar Products Used: | s-company,older lx-xt | | Bike Setup: | giant,race face,avid disc,eastonstem-bars | | Bottom Line: | for the last six monthes i've had no problems.i think some of these other guys expect to much for the price.i got them on a set of mavic disc rims for under $200.WHAT DO YOU GUYS EXPECT!realy-good performance for the price! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Gordon Ghenter
a Cross Country Rider
from Flagstaff
Date Reviewed: April 6, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | I have used it for 2 years/ 10,000 off road miles and they still work like new. During this time I have never done any sort of maintenance on them, AND THEY STILL WORK! | | Bottom Line: | It doesn't get too wet here in AZ, so I don't know how they hold up in the mud, but I'd recomend them. I have treated my hubs very poorly, never mantaining them. I do mostly cross country/ enduro riding with only medium impacts. I weigh 125, that might have something to do with it too. I am impressed that nothing is wrong with these hubs after all the riding I've done on them. They have outlasted almost every other component on my bike. They'll probably die on me soon, but for the price they're great. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nick
a Weekend Warrior
from bay city, MI
Date Reviewed: December 25, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | DROPS! | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$26.00 | | Purchased At: | Jensonusa.com | | Strengths: | Well... Keeps the wheel together, works for a little while under lame/light xc conditions. Not meant for freeriding. | | Weaknesses: | Lets see here, freehub doesnt always work right. Axel cracked in 2 after 8 footer. but I did beat the shiznit outta it so I would assume it would die eventually. | | Similar Products Used: | Acera.....? Deore | | Bike Setup: | Urban w/long front travel. Hardtail, freeride rims. | | Bottom Line: | Good for xc. Not too light, but cheap. I will give it that. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
S.Ganesh
a
from Singapore
Date Reviewed: December 25, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Bottom Line: | I purchased a replacement freehub body from the bike shop for about US$15 from the LBS. It was a cheaper alternative than replacing the entire hub and rebuilding a wheel. Replacement was fast.
When the bike shop serviced the hub, I checked out the hubs and everything was clean inside. The bearings were still round. Only problem was the freehub body.
The replacement freehub body currently works alright so far.... Maybe I'll post a review a year later or when the replacement fails again.
For the past few days, I am happy with the hub. It sounds good when I am coasting and I can ride my bike. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
S.Ganesh
a Cross Country Rider
from Singapore
Date Reviewed: December 16, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Bottom Line: | One of the worst products I've had. If you're ever on a budget and need a hub, forget about the LX. It's lasts for only a year!
Today, I commuting with the bike and the rear LX freehub failed! I was not able to put power into the rear wheel. Luckily, I was near my destination or I would have been stranded in the middle of nowhere. Had to take a cab back home! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
rod atkinson
a
from canada
Date Reviewed: December 2, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | anything rough | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$50.00 | | Strengths: | The front hub is great never had a problem with it and it had been beaten hard | | Weaknesses: | the rear hub sucks large | | Similar Products Used: | I have always used shimano but i thingk that this is the last time | | Bike Setup: | maxam warp drive LX,STX,cv7 rims | | Bottom Line: | the rear hub is not even worth using as a paper weight i have had nothing but probs. with it ever since i got it
time for somthing new the clutch has broken 4 times now and the first was on a biking trip in france i went to see the tour de france and missed it because of this | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
miha
a Weekend Warrior
from ljubljana slovenija
Date Reviewed: November 28, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | krizh | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$50.00 | | Purchased At: | veb company | | Strengths: | it is black | | Weaknesses: | the bolts came loose and are doing that ever since | | Similar Products Used: | acera, alivio | | Bike Setup: | author egoist(easton ultra lite) frame, f519, z1 mcr(kicks ass),... | | Bottom Line: | rear shimano hubs suck big time. i have had this one for 21 days and its already loose.I fastened the bolts on the axel so the wheel was barely rolling, but them litle suckers came loose again. It seems like this hub is even worse than acera and alivio. I ll be damn if I buy any shimano part again, thy disappoint me ewery time. I assure you i am not the agressive tipe of a rider, I just like to go fast down the slope and do not have the balls to drop more than 2 m (ca.6ft) with my frame. Shimano parts are all lite, but not as lite as weak - I ve broken almost everything cheeper than very expensive they make and it is a shame!!!!!!!!
PS:excuse my spelling | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jim Jones
a Cross Country Rider
from Sausalito, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: October 29, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Bottom Line: | Pretty weak product. I smacked the front end not going too fast and the axle bent and ripped through the bearings. Now the hub is pretty much worthless. I will not get LX hubs again. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rodrigo
a Racer
from Tiburon, CA, MArin
Date Reviewed: September 6, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Bottom Line: | awesome
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Submitted by
Lennart Jakobsen
a Cross Country Rider
from Copenhagen
Date Reviewed: September 6, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Furesoe | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$25.00 | | Purchased At: | from friend | | Strengths: | Cheap,solid,looks(black)freewheel(silent clutch) | | Weaknesses: | very heavy in the silent clutch version,around 550 g. | | Similar Products Used: | old shimano stuff | | Bike Setup: | 99`RM Blizzard,LX/XT/XTR,very custom... | | Bottom Line: | I only use the rear hub,which is great value,had to adjust bearings once,besides that no problems.The silent clutch mechanism is great,a shame it`s so heavy,it engages so quick,and i "enjoy the silence".Bottom line:great value,but i`m planning to get something lighter | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Sanj
a
from Salisbury UK
Date Reviewed: May 25, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | none | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | <
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