Submitted by
jt
a Weekend Warrior
from new york, new york Date Reviewed: July 28, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Blue Mountain Reservation
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$1700.00
Purchased At:
Toga Bike Shop
Strengths:
Simplicity Low-maintenance Overall Balance
Similar Products Used:
Specialized FSX
Bike Setup:
LX-XT, Fox coil-over rear shock, Marzocchi Atom Bomb
Bottom Line:
Bought this bike in 1996. In 1998, the original Indy SL shock was replaced with a Marzocchi Atom Bomb. Upgraded to V-brakes at the same time. Everything else is stock. Only maintenance has been replacing the chain, chainring and cassette.
Zero maintenance on pivot. Even the original stock wheelset has held up (LX/Weinmann red/radially laced)!
Everything on this bike has held up remarkably well considering the conditions I've ridden it in and the absolute neglect I've shown it. The only way it's shown its age is that the rear has developed some lateral flex and the bottom bracket is creaking.
It's not the plushest design around, nor the most active under braking. But its design has withstood the test of time. If you want a low-maintenance, reliable and balanced ride, look no farther.
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Submitted by
Craig Alan Grau
a Cross Country Rider
from toostoned AZ Date Reviewed: March 4, 2002
Favorite Trail:
your front yard
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1000.00
Purchased At:
mtbr classifieds
Strengths:
Climbs like an escalator. Takes big hits nice. Very comfy in fast descents.
Weaknesses:
That rear tire clearance might suck in sticky mud.
Super deal on a extra clean bike from the classifieds. This one's nice with yellow FT/black RT, if you're looking to get into an FS bike, skip the mainstream TREKS and other gimmicks and shop smart. I take some pretty rough hits, and this rig has really saved my As* while feeling like butter afterwards. Super maneuverable, and goes up like an F16. Great jumper as well. Wonder how the new ones are...
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Submitted by
Peter
a Cross Country Rider
from Philadelphia, PA, USA Date Reviewed: September 13, 2001
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1400.00
Purchased At:
ebay
Strengths:
Simplicity, cool looks, balance, climbs well
Weaknesses:
Wheelbase is a bit short for high speed descending. Hard to clean gunk out of front derailleur area.
Similar Products Used:
None
Bike Setup:
I found my 1998 Heckler on ebay, barely used off-road, with all sorts of goodies (full XT except Race Face cranks & BB, Syncros post, King headset) after about a year of looking. Black with polished rear triangle, RS Super Deluxe (which I've blown) and a Judy XC long travel up front (which I haven't, but the bushings are now pretty worn). After six months of racing and riding, it's got a few scratches etc., but hey, that's racin' as the NASCAR boys say.
Bottom Line:
As I said above, I looked for this bike on e-bay for a long time...I didn't want the Superlight because of the weight limit warning and the fact that I couldn't get the color combination I wanted. It's only 1.4 lbs heavier anyway. After riding and racing hard, the pivots have held up (while I've broken or worn out just about every other part, but that's normal) The wheelbase is a bit shorter than I'm used to. I've got a medium frame, which fits me well, but I probably would have gotten a large had I ridden and compared both. Having said that, I love the way it climbs and descends (except for high speed fire-road style, see above) and it seems to be well balanced front-to-rear. The design has become a classic (10 years in production) and I suspect that I'll have the frame for many years. I'll give it a 4 for value (but I bought mine used) and a 4 overall.
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Submitted by
Chris
a Weekend Warrior
from Sarasota, FL Date Reviewed: April 20, 2001
Favorite Trail:
it's all good!
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$750.00
Purchased At:
Planet Z
Strengths:
Low maintenance, great for just about any trail conditions.
Weaknesses:
Not the plushest on sick downhill rides.
Similar Products Used:
None
Bike Setup:
Total custom build, Fox Twin Clicker, Z-1, Hope hubs, Velocity rims, Azonic DH Bar, Race Face Cranks, etc.
Bottom Line:
Anybody who was looking for a good price to value fs ride should've have bought one before they started making the gay Superlight version. Buy the Bullit instead, because any bike that has a recommended weight limit (like the Superlite) should be steered clear of. It's mountain biking and the frame is going to get some serious abuse if you live to ride. The old school Heckler frame was solid enough for some serious abuse and mine is still going strong after 3 years.
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Submitted by
Brian
a Cross Country Rider
from Colonia, NJ Date Reviewed: March 14, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Kennerdell, PA
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$2300.00
Strengths:
I LOVE THIS BIKE! After researching for two or three months, I found the best for your money, all-around bike. I use it for XC as well as DH at ski resorts. Value for your money. This bikes climbs and descends so sweetly.
Weaknesses:
front derailleur screws are difficult to reach non replaceable derailleur hanger
Similar Products Used:
Softride Contour
Bike Setup:
XT gruppo, Judy T2 fork setup climbs much better but I swap it with my Z1 BAM when I go for serious DH.
Bottom Line:
The only maintenance that I've performed is overall cleaning and replacing the cables. I admit that I may be neglecting maintaing the Fox Vanilla shock but it seems to be working fine after over two years. When I scrunge up enough cash for a DH bike, you can bet that it'll be a Super 8. Santa Cruz rocks! You should buy this if you are strapped for cash but have enough to get what you pay for. Second thought, you get WAAAAY more than you pay for with this bike. Buy this if you're looking for a phenomenal all-around bike that's comfy even if you've had a spinal fusion like me.
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Submitted by
Kore Khon
a
from OZ Date Reviewed: March 3, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Mine Trail
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$450.00
Purchased At:
JT Cycles in Sonora CA
Strengths:
Because I can only afford one bike. I love hearing, "So, your Heckler climbs pritty good, hun? Jumped in the XC race at Mammoth in 00 to mix it up with the bar-end, weight winnie crowd and finished 24 out of 60. Loved riding the stuff others were walking. It's solid and Santa Cruz is a company that stands behind their products. Even if the city only offers candy-ass trails. Chicks dig it.
Weaknesses:
Limited to four inches in the rear, but who cares?
Similar Products Used:
My first full spank though I've jumped on rode some other sp horses.
Bike Setup:
Answer X-Vert up front, Fox Binally with lock-out in back. Race Face, LX, XT, XTR a real yard sale.
Bottom Line:
It all started with one Heckler in our group, now there's 7 or 8. I'm not gona lug a bullet up any climb and I don't have a chauffeur (most of the time). The horse is made for the Sierra not the beach.
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Submitted by
Jo Toner
a Downhiller
from York, England Date Reviewed: November 29, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Ramsgill, Patley Bridge
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$300.00
Purchased At:
My Mate
Strengths:
good all rounder, i do mostly downhill and particully dual and it is a very good performer for dual as it is light and you can throw it about quite easily. As for downhill, it has a very stable ride downhills and is good for technical sections.
Weaknesses:
None really. I have the 1998 heckler with the rock shox super deluxe rear shock and when i bought it off my mate i seemed to be bottoming the shock out. Since then i have put a 300lb spring in and it works a treat.
Similar Products Used:
Jamis short travel bikes Specialized FSR
Bike Setup:
the ultimate heckler, MRP (real) Slalom, goldtec downhill hubs, on D521 CD's, Hope disc's front and rear, XT rear mech and cranks, DMR V8 pedals, Tioga tyres and seat, azonic stem and yeti hardcore grips.
Bottom Line:
A really good buy, i needed a good dual bike for next year and i think i have got one. I bought the frame for £300 and built it up with all the stuff i had previously on my hardtail. It runs really nice and it will also be good for downhill in the coming season. A brilliant bike.
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Submitted by
Morf
a Cross Country Rider
from Portland, Oregon Date Reviewed: November 7, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Firelane 7
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
Simple, sturdy design with lots of features. This bike climbs great but you can still huck off pretty good drops. Looks cool (mine has a polished aluminum rear triangle).
This bike is plenty stiff laterally and I do not experience any significant bobbing. I handles wonderfully in technical sections up or down.
Weaknesses:
Mine was equipped with a Judy XC. I busted the crown after just a couple of months and I only weigh 150 and I'm really old. The greatest weakness in my Heckler, however, appears to be the appendages that connect my intent with the pedals and bars.
Similar Products Used:
Trek Y, Fisher Sugar and lots of other stuff by the big names. Every time, I am delighted to get back on my Heckler.
Bike Setup:
XT, Hugi 240s (cool)and some other stuff that works.
Bottom Line:
What a great bike for the typical cross country rider! For the price, there are a few comparable bikes like the Sugar. But this is a Santa Cruz, which means your yuppie friends won't recognize the name.
I note that mine is actually a 1997 frame. But the design has not changed.
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Submitted by
Richard
a Weekend Warrior
from Eugene, Oregon, USA Date Reviewed: October 23, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$600.00
Strengths:
Strong, good geometry, can do anything if set up right.
Weaknesses:
Little weak on the uphill.
Similar Products Used:
not many
Bike Setup:
Heckler frame(duh), full XT down to the bottom bracket and headset, Judy XL, Fox Vanilla X, Rhyno Lite rear rim, Mavic 138 front(gonna buy a Rhyno Lite for the front, too), Bontrager Crowbar, Syncros stem, no-name seatpost(used to be Bontrager, but it got bent) WTB seat.
Bottom Line:
With these shocks, stem, and bars (they're risers), the bike is not set up to go up, so right now it sucks at that. I might lower the shocks for this purpose. However, it does go down hills exceptionaly well. There is quite a bit of pogo in the rear shock when pounding up a hill, and that's annoying. I like the simple design of the swing-arm; it seems pretty stiff. This bike is great for someone who wants to be able to do it all, but is best for going down, depending on how it's set up. It's worht the $2000 new, but is best for $600 used. 4 turds for value cause it's expensive new, 5 turds for overall cause it kicks ass!
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Submitted by
Blair
a Cross Country Rider
from Calgary, AB, Canada Date Reviewed: July 21, 2000
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Climbing, Simple no maintenance pivot, bomb proof design.Stiff and no chain slapping. Great all-around bike. Do everything kinda ride. Danny (nose first)L. from calgary took forever to break his!
Weaknesses:
Some brake jack under downhill braking (as apposed to uphill braking!) and a some ghost shifting when really rough. Not much rear tire clearance for DH tires.
Similar Products Used:
First full-suspension owned but have tried a few others. Enough tried to know what works for me.
Bike Setup:
99 frame, Z1 QR20, XT drivetrain, RaceFace headset/stem, Easton CT2 DH Riser, Thompson Layback post, Giro Saddle, Tioga Factory DH 2.3 front, Kujo DH rear, Rhyno-lites front and rear.
Bottom Line:
I've been waiting to put this review in until I've had a good test period. Now I'm ready. I have tried to set this bike up to do everything. I put XC tires on it and go XC'ing and put the big meats on and go DH'ing. With the tall 5" travel fork the steering isn't too swift due to the slack head angle. This fork's not for everyone anyway. Not exactly a race setup either. But with the tall front end it goes through the nasty stuff very well. Sit back and hang on. Also due to the tall fork and riser bars you've gotta crouch to climb. A fine trade-off for me. Mine is not light. with DH tires it weighs 32 pounds. But the bike has crashed hard (repeatedly) and their is no damage except some scratches. You don't feel the weight while riding it though. If you peddle this up a hill and then switch to a Stinky De-lux you will see the diference. If you can only have one bike this is the one. Set it up for your tastes and off you go. I would buy this bike again in a second. O wait, Maybe a superlight with a sid 100 and buy a Bullit frame and swap my parts. Ahhh the never ending cycle (no pun intended)
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Submitted by
Matt Peters
a Cross Country Rider
from Dallas TX USA Date Reviewed: July 16, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Mr. Toads Tahoe
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Simplicity, Price, Looks, Company behind it, All around capability, Ride, Ride, Ride. Price is what you pay and value is what you receive. In the case of the Heckler you get way more value for your money than any other bike in any class. This bike will almost double the amount of time you can spend in the saddle if your coming off of a hardtail.
Weaknesses:
Yeah, Yeah, the replaceable der. hanger is a replaceable swing-arm. I'm sure everyone is sick of reading this one. My question is what is S.C's response to this perceived problem?
Similar Products Used:
Superlight and Trek Y
Bike Setup:
Fox float R (no need for a lock-out, everyone that I know that has one used it three or four times and stopped), 2001 Judy SL, King wheelset (so fine), Race face Cranks, Avid brakes and levers, LX pod shifters, Easton EA 70 post, Titec stem, Azonic riser bar, 535 pedals, XT der., Bezerker Saddle (embroidered), un 52 bb, ahead head set and lx cassette. The last three items will be replaced as soon as possible.
Bottom Line:
The best bike I have ever ridden hands down. Have not had it long so I can't address the longevity of the thing. But, I bought a Heckler over a Superlight because I am confident this will be a minimum of a 10 year bike. I bought a Bontrager Race over the Race-lite 5 years ago for the same reason.
I must address the review from Aptos, your favorite trail is fall creek? It is not open to bikes. You just told the world that you are an _____! And you based your opinion about the Heckler on a old used one. If I bought a ferrari that never had the oil changed and it broke down does that mean that all ferrari's suck? These are not intended to be insults or attacks but rather observations based on fact.
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Submitted by
Mark Spruell
a Weekend Warrior
from Farmington, MI, USA Date Reviewed: July 13, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Highland SP
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
Everything. Handles like a dream, somehow managing to be both stiff and plush as necessary. Well built and low maintenence.
Weaknesses:
Negates the need for some riding skills -- you're going to have to find harder trails.
Similar Products Used:
FSR, Trek Y, Cannondale V,
Bike Setup:
XT group, Z1 Bam, Crosslinks, Time pedals
Bottom Line:
This is my third year with this bike and I'm still as happy with it as the day I got it. It does everything well -- climbs like a mountain goat, descends like Franz Klammer, sturdy as an old oak desk. It works best as an all around trail/singletrack bike, but could be outfitted for all but the most stringent single-use riders (ie downhill or slalom), but then I don't figure them to be reading this anyway.
Looking at other reviews it seems as though everyone loves their own bike, no matter what brand, making it hard for any one to stand out. Santa Cruz has really done a great job with this bike, though -- it seems to pull out benefits where other bikes find compromises. No wonder they haven't had to change the design in years. What other manufacturer can say that about their full suspension bike?
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Submitted by
jools
a Weekend Warrior
from london Date Reviewed: June 26, 2000
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
Sorted proven ride
Similar Products Used:
lots
Bike Setup:
Fox Vanilla R, Pace EVO2,Race Face post and stem,azonic bars,XT shifts and Mechs,Middleburn Cranks,Hope Bulbs, open2 pros,521CDs Azonic pedals, S5 headset.
Bottom Line:
The Nuts. A classic.
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Submitted by
David G
a Cross Country Rider
from Santa Barbara, CA, USA Date Reviewed: May 21, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Romero Canyon
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
Suspension action rules, With firm springs in my Z1BAM the balance is perfect. This thing cruises up & down, especially down. Takes huge jumps in stride, lots of standover clearance and manouverablility is so close to hardtail, when its not, bomb down the middle. Reacts to body english very well, this coming from a 220lb rider, I'm not gentle either. I roost all, often including downhillers in all their gear, handling over mush.
Weaknesses:
Bobs a bit in climbs but I like the feel of the suspension holding the ground, standing or seated. Smooth pedal stroke steadies things, that your crank up the preload.
Z1BAM, RaceFace LP, RS disc front, XT V rear, Race Face XY post, Shimano clipless (535 & 636), XTR rear derailer, LX front, XT rapidfire combo, Specialized body geometry seat, 517, 217 chris king 32 spoke F&R, Easton riser & Kore 135 stem. Large frame, Fox Vanilla R. Switch from DH tires (missle & Kujo) to IRC notos & Panaracer Mach SK combo.
Bottom Line:
This bike rules, I think I'm just in need of some new bearings, or maybe just a repack. I'm thinking about switching to a cane creek AD10 to dump some weight, but then maybe I'm just a parts junkie. I love the feel of the coil and the rebound adjustments are enough for me. With the laid back post and 135mm stem w/risers, my 220lb 6'4 frame is happy and comfy. I've tried and been pleased with a great number of tires, however I find the best overall balance comes from the ones I'm using now, low rolling resistance has made up for any suspension power loss, I'm kicking a.. on the flats and the downhills have always been mine, I just use more body english now. DH rear can overpower the rigitity of the rear a little but I still have good success at Big Bear. Looks great in black with polished rear & stem. I put in @50 miles a week and the only ones who take a beating are my bro's. I love it. I would only consider an Intense Uzzi SL over it, although I've come to appreciate the simplicity of the design, nothing goes wrong, no squeeks or stickyness, just smooth and reactive. No parts breakage here, just a new headset, blownforkseals, and a new bottom bracket now and again (220lbs can be hard on drivetrain & forks).
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Submitted by
Nick Ulrich
a Racer
from California,U.S. Date Reviewed: May 2, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Back Breaker
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Everything is great on the bike because I got it custom made from Santa Cruz. I got bomber front suspension, fox float RC, and a super x kit put it on it because they messed up the order at first.
Weaknesses:
NO weaknesses
Bottom Line:
This bike is great all around. Get rid of the Judy Shocks and get Bombers you'll enjoy the bike more my friends. For the money you pay for it you get a lot for your money
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Submitted by
Jimmy Lee
a Cross Country Rider
from Santa Monica, Ca. Date Reviewed: January 17, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Backbone
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
buttery downhills over big and small objects Vanilla float RC's rule attractive great geometry for all around riding
Weaknesses:
Warning: liable to make you feel overconfident on screaming downhills
Marzocchi Z2 Bam, Rolf Dolomites, Race Marzocchi Z2Bam, Rolf Dolomites, Race Face cranks and stem, XT/XTR, Monkey Lite Riser, Chris King No-Threadset
Bottom Line:
If you weigh under 200lbs and love the adrenaline rush as much as the endorphine high, get this bike!! I love my climbs and the Float RC's allows me to lock out the rear and climb everything I used to top with my hardtail. My enjoyment of getting dirty on two wheels has instantly doubled with this bike.
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Submitted by
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a Cross-Country Rider
from Calgary, AB Date Reviewed: November 29, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Bones
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
Very sweet in Climbs, sticks to the ground! On single track very responsive, never rode anything better.
Weaknesses:
Non Replacable hanger
Similar Products Used:
Specialized Mach somethin'-I rate Specialized 1 Star, they suck so bad!!
Bike Setup:
Silver Heckler frame, Manitou X-vert 98'-still had the 3 of travel. Rock Shox, coupe deluxe. Azonic Riser handlebars, Titec Seatpost and Stem. XT components. Fire XC pro Rear Tire, IRC front. Avid Pro Brakeleavers Basically, the bike was completely custom Built
Bottom Line:
The 98' Heckler I have is GOD!! If I'm going down a hill and feeling a loss of control I let everything go and the bike handles itself and usually comes out of it without leaving me behind. Before I got the bike it had the Manitou X-Vert TI, I had it changed to the X-vert(non triple clamp) With the Triple Clamp, I found when I came out of the saddle my knees hit it, the bike is an 18 frame. So I had it switched, the geometry is better, and my knees have healed!! I e-mailed Santa Cruz and told them all of this, they sent me a bundle of free stickers!! I will by Santa Cruz again!!
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Submitted by
Phil Clarke
a Weekend Warrior
from Edinburgh, Scotland Date Reviewed: November 17, 1999
Rear shock bushes wear in no time, non replaceable mech hanger (??), swingarm flexes when pedaling hard
Similar Products Used:
Marin
Bike Setup:
Vanilla R shock (top!), Manitou X - vert Rs, XT gears, Gustav disc / HS22 on rear, Kore stem,tomac bars, big tyres...
Bottom Line:
I've had one for nearly 3 years now, the first one cracked around the rear dropouts and the swingarm pivot mount on the frame after 7 months but Santa Cruz via Stiff got me a new '98 frame with no hassle - surprise its been re - designed in both places maine cracked. New one has not shown any signs of distress despite numerous downhill races in Scotland, big jumps and a few big crashes. The non replaceable mech hanger is a bit dodgy - mine bent after i accidently fell off a 15 foot cliff whilst still attached to the bike - 5 minutes with a big adjustable spanner had it straight again so no worries if it ever breaks I'll just machine it to take a replaceable hanger off another bike! A great all rounder if you only want one bike - DH, jumps, trails, expeditions - you name it!
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Submitted by
Miguel
a Cross-Country Rider
from Santa Cruz, CA Date Reviewed: November 13, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Tahoe Rim Trail, Wilder, Fort Ord
Duration Product Used:
more than 3 years
Strengths:
Sticks to the ground climbing or descending.
Weaknesses:
Frame shock failed after nearly 3 years, but was very easy to replace.
Bike Setup:
18 frame, Judy SL front, Fox Vanilla frame shock (replacement)
Bottom Line:
Many of the reviews are after a couple of months of riding. Here's one after three years. The Heckler lasts. I am lazy when it comes to maintenance and the only part that failed was the frame shock after nearly 3 years. So the ride was soggy until I popped a new shock in without any trouble. I've flipped and crashed plenty of times and all I've lost was decals. For 3 months I was without a road bike, so the Heckler got slicks and I locked-out the frame shock to ride the weekly roadie training ride. It climbed with the front road bikes. So, it's plenty good on climbing. When I borrowed my friend's Bontrager Ti hardtail, I could tell the Heckler gave up something on the quick turns. But the Ti lost rear traction on a reverse camber descending curve, wouldn't let me use the rear brake much on a fast washboard descent, and even slipped a bit on the rear climbing on moist and rooty Enchanted Forest. The Heckler has never done any of these bothersome things. If my 1996 Heckler ever dies, I will get another one.
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Submitted by
Jim Campbell
a Weekend Warrior
from Vancouver, BC, Canada Date Reviewed: November 9, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Suntop, WA, Pipeline - North Shore
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
Stiff laterally, is the tool to clean the hard drops, eye candy, strong, light, LOW MAINTENANCE, easy to adjust travel rebound, great customer service.
Weaknesses:
(with a 5 fork) slow turning reaction due to slack head angle, won't mount on my Swagman bike rack, ; worst: hee of right shoe hits XT V brake cantilever at back (running wide Sun Rhino Lite rim)
Similar Products Used:
GT LTS, RTS,
Bike Setup:
fox coilover, Z1 dropoff; Race face risers, lx/xt/xtr rear mix,Panaracer fire XC Pro's.
Bottom Line:
I LOVE this ride. I know now the older technology was holding me back. great ride, great design, I'm a very pleased customer.
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Submitted by
Michael
a Weekend Warrior
from Greenville, S.C. Date Reviewed: October 22, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Pisgah National Forrest, N.C.
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Rigid, bomb proof frame, no flex and no feedback from the rear shock
Weaknesses:
None found yet.
Similar Products Used:
Mountain cycle, Schwinn Homegrown,
Bike Setup:
XTR and XT componets, Marzocchi JR-T fork (whish is awesome), Cane creek AD-10 rear shock (just as awesome and light), Mavic rims.
Bottom Line:
After riding several D/S rigs and reading all the material I could I was pretty sure this was the bike I wanted. Then I got to ride one and it was a no brainer. The only drawback is the weight but it's a trade-off for a bombproof, trouble-free machine.
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Submitted by
Dino
a Weekend Warrior
from Derby Date Reviewed: October 20, 1999
Favorite Trail:
conistion old man
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
Build Quality, Ride (up & down hill)
Weaknesses:
none
Similar Products Used:
Marin - pants
Bike Setup:
Hope discs, Z1 bommbers, x-lite everything
Bottom Line:
This frame is the best around frame on the market at present. it can take a bashing and it doesn't complain. You can not spend your monet on anything else !!!
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Submitted by
Zombie
a Weekend Warrior
from Land of the Dead Date Reviewed: October 18, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Plantation Trail
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
Low Maintenence, Great suspension travel
Weaknesses:
No replaceable hanger
Similar Products Used:
Litespeed Ocoee FS, Specialized Stumpy XC
Bike Setup:
'Zoke Z-1 Alloy Full XT Cook Bros. e Crank Kore Stem/Seatpost
Bottom Line:
This bike rules - Only had it for a month but wouldn't trade it for anything. Some bob when granny gear climbing, but staying light on the bike makes it barely noticable. Brakes do lock out some under hard braking but not enough to affect my opinion. Customer service @ Santa Cruz is great - they answered my questions and spent alot of time dealing with my concerns. Frame is very stiff and travel is very plush. Would highly recomment it even for those still alive!
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Submitted by
Eddie
a Weekend Warrior
from Phoenix, AZ Date Reviewed: October 17, 1999
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
weight, simple design, choice of colors, price, etc.
Weaknesses:
none!
Similar Products Used:
Turner, Chuck, FSR, Titus,
Bike Setup:
Fox Vanilla R, Z-1 Bam (130mm)fork, all XT, LP riser bar, Cane Creek head set, Mavic 517.
Bottom Line:
The best real full suspension bike on the market. It performs just as well going down hill as it does going up. My bike is set up @ 28lbs with lots of travel up front but you can easily make it 25-22 lbs if that is your choice. Best bike for the money!!
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Submitted by
Vu
a Cross-Country Rider
from Red Deer, Alberta, Canada Date Reviewed: September 20, 1999
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Weight, versatility, stiffness, color options, durability, exclusivity, looks
Weaknesses:
None inherent in the frame.
Similar Products Used:
Rocky Element Race, Fisher Joshua, Cannondale Super V.
This bike is one of the best bikes available. It climbs like a dream, and is relatively light. My bike weighs 26.4 lbs and I could easily cut it down to under 25. There is no pedal feedback whatsoever, unless I am on the granny gear (who needs i-Drive?). But the reason it climbs so well is because of the pedal feedback, which actually pushes the rear wheel down (barely, but it does). The only actually problem, if you could call it that, is the ghost shifting that sometimes occurs over rough bumps. That, I think, is more due to the lack of tension in the 9-speed drivetrain than the frame design. Not a real problem, but it does come up (rarely). Also, the rear end stiffens ever so slightly under rear braking, but it's hardly a drawback...just learn to go faster. This bike rules.
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Doug
a Cross-Country Rider
from Carrboro, NC Date Reviewed: August 27, 1999
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Pretty much everything. It's not going to fall apart on you, that's for sure.
Weaknesses:
Maybe the non-replaceable hanger?! (but I don't know how I'd break it before the flimsy XT deraileur). It's not the lightest bike around
Similar Products Used:
Klein Matra, Y-22, DB v1.2, (test rode most everything else)
Bike Setup:
Marzocci Z2, Cane Creek AD-10, XT (except for LX cranks and front derailuer), Chris King Headset
Bottom Line:
I test rode many different bikes (Schwinn, GT, Trek, Specialized, etc.) in shop parking lots, and rode the Klein, Y-22, and DB on real singletrack, but decided to order the Heckler sight unseen after reading all the positive reveiws (BTW: Speedgoat did a great job with the bike - they're a terrific shop. The folks at Santa Cruz are very helpful, too). Technical/rocky sections are now a breeze compared to my old Stumpy w/Mag-21 (big surprise). It tracks well and seems very stiff laterally. No problems with peddling induced suspension action (or vice-versa) when on the trails. The stock IRC tires are iffy on the technical stuff, and I still need to work on the Z2 compression damping, but otherwise this bike is great. The weight (28.5 lbs with large frame) isn't especially noticeable when riding, but weight freaks should get the Superlight, anyway. In short: I love this bike. Before buying a Specialized FSR, GT I-(gotta ask why?) drive, Trek, etc., try and check the Heckler out; you won't be disappointed.
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Submitted by
Mike D
a Cross-Country Rider
from Menlo Park, CA Date Reviewed: August 24, 1999
Favorite Trail:
El Corte de Madera
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Stiff and simple frame design, cool name, a piece of art. The relatively short top tube makes getting off and behind the saddle a snap.
Weaknesses:
None.
Similar Products Used:
None.
Bike Setup:
White frame, orange triangle; Hell Bent low riser bars, Race Face LP cranks and BB, Z2 Atom Bomb fork, Air Vanilla RC, Avid Brakes, WTB velociraptor tires.
Bottom Line:
Nutty goodness! My third bike, first full suspension. Once I got the suspension tuned, I'm riding sections I used to biff on. Loves to rocks and ruts at speed. The rear wheel sticks to the ground on steep, slow technicals. Good (not great) climber. Worth every penny, but if you like to pinch then check the Heckler X.
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Submitted by
Brad
a Cross-Country Rider
from Big Sur, CA Date Reviewed: August 20, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Government Trail, Aspen,CO
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Durable Low maintenance Great company with helpful staff
Weaknesses:
A little heavy Not too plush
Similar Products Used:
Spec. FSR
Bike Setup:
Marzoc Z2 Fox Air Vanilla Float w lockout XT components ATAC carbon fiber pedals Chris King headset SRAM 9.0 ...
Bottom Line:
WOW!! I like this bike. Great on the uphill and downhill-singletrack, mud, road, whatever it works.
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Submitted by
Kurt
a Weekend Warrior
from Seattle, WA Date Reviewed: August 19, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Lots of stuff near Seattle
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Great all around bike- not a bad climber (I weigh 215, so climbing's not exactly my specialty anyhow), and fun as heck downhill. Like being able to get customized colors (mine's lime green with a bright yellow swingarm - the treefrog look
Weaknesses:
None thus far - it's been all I had hoped for and more. I did replace the rear derailleur bolt with breakaway bolt, based on some of the reviews I read here (better safe than sorry,eh?)
Similar Products Used:
None - it's my first dualie. Previous mtn bike is a hardtail mongoose that's about 5 years old, now used for commuting.
Bike Setup:
Heckler Frame (lime green w/yellow swingarm) Marzocchi Atom Bomb forks Fox Vanilla R rear shock Mostly XT throughout Mavic rims / Veloceraptor tires
Bottom Line:
Fantastic all around bike - climbs really well in small ring, flys downhill over stuff that used to scare me, comfortable everywhere (gotta love that suspension). Relatively light (for a dualie), great handling with the Marzocchi forks on all kinds of gnarly trails. Really like the simple design for the rear suspension (simple design = less to go wrong/replace/repair)I did a lot of reading and research on dualies, since I wanted this bike to be my all-around rig - I've been absolutely delighted with the design and performance. And I've had a lot of positive comments on the trail - seems a lot of riders like this bike. And judging from the review on MTBR, lots of the folks here like it, too.Not the lightest, not the plushest - but a really good all-around bike that keeps you smiling.Great bike, especially considering the cost of other bikes in this class.
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Submitted by
jay
a Weekend Warrior
from london Date Reviewed: August 8, 1999
Favorite Trail:
chamonix valley france
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Everything
Weaknesses:
Bucking on v big hits
Similar Products Used:
loads
Bike Setup:
Vanilla R pace Xlite xtr azonic race face etc
Bottom Line:
in response to Andy re getting bucked im on a 450lb spring at 235lbs and I have rebound set almost at full when jumping downhilling etc its not ideal but its the price you pay for eating too many buns for xc im on about 10 clicks and a whole load of preload seems to help.keep messing till it feels right I dont think one setting suits all the things that can happen.
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Submitted by
Andrew Curro
a Cross-Country Rider
from Sydney, Australia Date Reviewed: August 7, 1999
Favorite Trail:
tin pot, blue mtn's
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
plush, plush, plush. lightweight of course all round comfort ride
Weaknesses:
NON REPLACEABLE R/DER. HANGER.....of course
Similar Products Used:
yeti AS3
Bike Setup:
RS Judy SL/RS Super Dlx. ...the usual gear....
Bottom Line:
YES! That non replaceable rear mech' hanger. So many complaints and still very little action from the guys at my favourite bike co. But on the positve side....it loves single track. The more tech it gets, the better it rides. Like most FS bikes, it needs proper set-up. Once achieved, this bike should not let you down. Incidentally, I have since added my own replaceable hanger. Yes it is possible. Easy actually!!!
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Submitted by
jamin jorge
a Cross-Country Rider
from Jamaica & Cali Date Reviewed: August 4, 1999
Favorite Trail:
d'hills o jamaica & anyhere me bike go down fast
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Weaknesses:
aint seen none yet mon'
Similar Products Used:
kline mantra rocky instinct spec. x
Bike Setup:
judy xc long travel fox air vanilla float full xt
Bottom Line:
if ya gonna buy a rig ya gotta ride dis ting first mon'. i been everywhere Cali got in 3 months since she come to me life(tahoe, marin, mammoth, big bear, so cali & all da stops inbetween) and OooBoyy!! dis is what ya need for da speed!!!! if'n ya like to go up da hill too...she will work wit ya so ya gotta good vibe and enjoy da sweet ride down...ya be feelin da flow. she be da spiritual girl ya know mon' she feel like home on da trail. YEAH!!
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Submitted by
Moishe Lettvin
a Cross-Country Rider
from Olympia, WA Date Reviewed: July 31, 1999
Heckler XT w/Superfly front fork and Fox Air Vanilla rear shock.
Bottom Line:
Fun, fun, fun. Took my bike out for its inaugural ride in Lynn Woods on Thursday and thrashed the hell out of it (and myself). I was riding with, who was on a homemade single-speed with a drum brake (!) in back. The Heckler rode great, and helped on technical climbs and was no hindrance on steep fire road climbing. Descending was incredible, as you'd expect. The stock IRC 1.9 tires were sketchy and I've replaced them with 2.1 Michelins.
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Submitted by
Andy
a Weekend Warrior
from Cambridge, UK Date Reviewed: July 21, 1999
Favorite Trail:
somewhere else
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
No flex!
Similar Products Used:
Orange X2 (which broke) Orange UFO (which also broke!)
Bike Setup:
Vanilla R Pace RC36 Forks XT etc
Bottom Line:
Very pleased with new bike. It does everthing very well, esp going down!I have a question: I am 195 pounds, have a 350lb spring, rebound turned approx 10/11 clicks. What is the best number of clicks to have the rebound knob turned for my weight? I do general trail/xc riding - nothing to taxing......Reason I ask is the bugger bucked me off, resulting in a bust arm & nose. Any advice gratefully and painfully received!
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Submitted by
BARRY
a Weekend Warrior
from NEW JERSEY Date Reviewed: July 15, 1999
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
Plush but not too plush single pivot, not too heavy, big hits, etc.
Weaknesses:
no bolts for cage, cheap decals, but nothing that causes it to ride bad.
Similar Products Used:
Jamis Dakar 2000 Crack and fail, I mean Cannondale Raven with Lefty y bikes trek vrx
Bike Setup:
99 heckler vannilla R xtr brakes/levers/shifters xt der. xvert R hugi wheels kore stem raceface bar king headset thompson post
Bottom Line:
You have to ride it too believe how amazing this bike rides, and as for the guy with the 6 year old frame, what the hell were thinking buying such an old frame, any frame that old would suck. As for the hanger on the 99 heckler it is twice as thick as any other normal hanger, and even if you bend it take it to a shop and have it fixed with a deralluer alignment tool.Great bike!!
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Submitted by
Dave Conway
a Cross-Country Rider
from Boulder, CO Date Reviewed: July 6, 1999
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Suspension design minimizes unwanted biopace. Elevated chainstay eliminates chain is not good. Low frame weight allows for builds near crosscountry race weight. Sexy looks.
Weaknesses:
Only thing I can think of: the area near the front der and the swingarm pivot is difficult to clean.
Similar Products Used:
Kona King Kikapu Rock Mountain Instinct
Bike Setup:
Zoke Z1 4 inch Cane Creek AD-10 Cane Creek Headset 747 pedals XT Braking and Shifting XT 9spd cassette Mavic 517/XT Wheels RaceFace everything else
Bottom Line:
I love this bike! As a crosscountry rider looking to try something different, I did my research and came up with my perfect bike. It seems that the rear suspension only moves when I want it too: on technical terrain, keeping the rear wheel linked up. I detect no biopace riding the roads to and from the trail. My original setup included riser bars which, coupled with the Z1, made the front end too high for efficient climbing. After swapping for a flat bar and lowering the stem position my geometry is perfect. I can now experience technical climbs up slick root steps and steep sand in the saddle. Sure I can stand and climb even faster but the point is the bike can climb. Of course descents are more controlled yet faster than ever. The previously unrideable sections are now the fun parts. My LBS suggested the bike was likely around 26.5 lbs. I'm betting a pound heavier, making it 3.5 heavier than my old chromo Stumpjumper, but I cannot feel the increased weight while riding the bike. I haven't had any serious wrecks yet, but I feel like the frame is extremely strong. Quick word about the Z1: it rocks! Bottom line: this is my perfect bike for fast and technical crosscountry riding in the Rocky Mountains.
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Submitted by
Rusty Dion
a Weekend Warrior
from Austin,Texas Date Reviewed: June 19, 1999
Favorite Trail:
SWParkway underground
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
Design,maint. free,lite weight,and bombproof
Weaknesses:
can't think of any
Similar Products Used:
Answer F/S,Rocky Mountain,Specialized FS
Bike Setup:
All X/T,R/S Judy XL,Mavic Crossland,Ringle,Titec, ControlTech,King
Bottom Line:
This Bike ROCKS,I'm 44 years old and ride longr and further now than ever.have owned 2 other F/S bikes and by far for the money this is it.All my riding partners are buying or are planning on buying as their next bike.As for the guy that broke his frame,the truth is Santa Cruz would have helped if you were the original owner.Don't blame the company for your stupidity.DON'T BUY USED AND EXPECT THE WARRANTY TO TRANSFER.ITS NOT A CAR!!!
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Submitted by
Jay
a Weekend Warrior
from London Date Reviewed: June 10, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Not found it yet The alps are good though
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Most things
Weaknesses:
Not much
Similar Products Used:
Other full suss from a load of firms
Bike Setup:
Pace Vanilla r XTR XT race face x lite
Bottom Line:
Oh dear some people take it all a bit too seriously I reckon. If your worried about a mech hanger on a 2k bike I'd say spend a few notes on a breakaway bolt and stop complaining. Flexy frames, I'm 225lbs thats 16 stone in old money and mine don't flex at all even on big drops,jumps and all sorts of dodgy terrain. As for all the other people who have criticised this bike I think you should pop off and buy yourself something much more expensive as you are all obviously the best riders the world has never seen and deserve something equal to your talents,or something like that anyway. As for me I love the bike to the point that I'll hear no bad words about it. If you cant say something nice don't say anything at all, we say in England
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Submitted by
Greg Beech
a Downhiller
from England Date Reviewed: May 24, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Nantmawr Quarry
Duration Product Used:
more than 3 years
Strengths:
Very strong bike - I have been racing and generally DHing/jumping on this frame for two years now with little sign of wear. Numerous big crashes with my triple-clamp forks and the frame is still fine. The suspension also works extremely well, better than many other similar designs (like Marin) which I have ridden. The single pivot is bombproof, and I still haven't had to replace the bearings
Weaknesses:
The suspension does become less active if you drag the back brake - but this is poor technique anyway, and if you'rew considering buying a frame of this price, you should have good technique.
Similar Products Used:
Before I bought this frame I rode: GT LTS, Marin full-sus, Specialized FSR, K2 Beast. Obviously I preferred it to all of them.
Bike Setup:
16 frame with Fox Vanilla R shock, RockShox Judy DHO forks, Shimano XTR groupset, White Industries Cranks, Ringle hubs, Mavic D521CD rims.
Bottom Line:
The bike works extremely well. The suspension is absolutely spot on for most UK courses, and it is only on very rare occasions that I find myself wanting more travel. It accelerates brilliantly, and my full-on DHer (all be it without Discs, which I am getting soon) only weighs about 30lb. It jumps better than a hardtail, and obviusly lands better.In short: would I swap my Heckler for two of any other bike? No.(except maybe the SantaCruz Bullit 6 which I would really like to try - but my mate's just bought one with Pace forks, so looks like I'll get a go... jealous anyone?)
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Submitted by
Chris Brownfield
a Cross-Country Rider
from San Francisco CA Date Reviewed: May 12, 1999
Favorite Trail:
no no that's for you to find
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
No pivot slop Fairly lightweight Decent components
Weaknesses:
No replaceable rear derailleur hanger
Similar Products Used:
Y bikes Proflex bikes
Bike Setup:
SC XT kit (XT drivetrain, Avid brakes, white tracker front, bontrager rims) with a Manitou XVert, Fox Vanilla Float
Bottom Line:
Excellent bike, love it. Solid value. Not a single problem other than figuring out I'd like an adjustment on the handlebar to set the rear shock for downhill vs cross country (reaching the lockout lever from riding position is great, but I'd like to have multi terrain lazy option on the bar). Love my Moots YBB, but this one much nicer to my back so it's winning the hours.
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Submitted by
Mike Warner
a Cross-Country Rider
from Cupertino, CA Date Reviewed: May 12, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Dardanelle Lakes (Tahoe)
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
Simplicity Adjustability Rugged as a tank
Weaknesses:
No replaceable rear deraileur hanger Bobs during standing climbs Weight like a tank
Similar Products Used:
Specialized FSR Santa Cruz Tazmon
Bike Setup:
Z1, Fox Vanilla R, All XT components.
Bottom Line:
Got the frame and fork a year ago, and broke the deraileur hanger off within two weeks (the deraileur itself was undamaged) Sent the swingarm in to Santa Cruz for replacement, but ended up having to buy a new one.(which had a thicker hanger and disk brake mount) Got a break-away deraileur bolt after that. No problems other than that so far. Nice and cushy, it's like riding a big marshmallow. Set the suspension on full soft, and it feels like riding a motorcycle downhill. Small price to pay for losing a gear on the uphills. Steering seems a little slow, might be because of the 4 travel fork (which awesome by the way). Rear shock works great too, but I wish it had a lockout lever, cuz this thing bobs during standing climbs. Guess I should spring for the Fox Vanilla Float. I don't think you can beat this bike for the price if you want a fun, low-maintenance trail bike. Wouldn't want to race it, but that's what my Ritchey is for. Only four stars until they change the hanger.
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Submitted by
Meado
a Cross-Country Rider
from denver Date Reviewed: May 11, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Porcupine Rim, Bergen Peak
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
Bombproof construction, product reliability, one pivot
Superb ride. Not the lightest but it is not going to break. MUCH better than the GT and Cannondale. Cheaper than the others with the same set-up as well. Just waiting to get a new wheelset to drop another 1/2-3/4lb.To the previous poster. Your Cruz is 6 years old; you probably need a new pivot bearing. Your USED bike probably had little or no maintenance performed on it. Caveat emptor my friend! How old was your buddy's bike? What was he doing to cause the frame to break? Was it 6yrs old and used too???? ANY bike will break if you beat it. If his Cruz is as old as yours is, very few companies are going to give you a warranty, especially if you are not the original owner. You must be careful buying used products. Try a new Santa Cruz that is tuned to your riding style; I am sure you'll like it much more than the used one
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Submitted by
jade
a Weekend Warrior
from aptos,ca Date Reviewed: May 9, 1999
Favorite Trail:
fall creek
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
somewhat lite weight
Weaknesses:
flex,flex and frame cracking , week rear suspension action due to poor geometry
Similar Products Used:
k2 beast , gt rts
Bike Setup:
s.c heckler , rock shock judy xlc ,fox vanilla r shock
Bottom Line:
this bike worked good for abuut 2 months, then it started to flex wildly mostly from the puny main bearing pivot, it also developed a wierd click noise when it was lifted from the seat. I do not reccommend this bike to any one, it's an old design (circa 1993)that is in desperate need of a re-design. P.S. my friend cracked his heckler frame and when he contacted the factory they told him tough luck man, well screw the s.c. heckler!!!!
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Submitted by
Matt N.
a Cross-Country Rider
from Boise, Id Date Reviewed: April 30, 1999
Favorite Trail:
any, all
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
the bike climbs like mad. sticks to the steepest of climbs with ease. very responsive and active on the downhills. loves to jump and get crossed up.
Weaknesses:
some bobing when you stand to climb, but to be expected from any full-suspension bike.
riser bars, raceface, avid, gripshift, syncros, wtb, chris king, easton
Bottom Line:
this bike is awesome. goes up with the best and goes down way faster while under control. has the ability to go huge and land rubber side down for the most part. corners fast and precise let the tires go and the bike almost does all the work for you (ie. doesn't require a lot of muscling around) but feels like a lightweight 125.
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Submitted by
rider one
a Cross-Country Rider
from mtown, wv Date Reviewed: April 21, 1999
Favorite Trail:
all/most
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
quality of travel lateral stiffness
Weaknesses:
lack of a replaceable der hanger new swingarm costs $250 and santa cruz acts like theyre doing you a favor at this price.
Similar Products Used:
ellsworth ab truth kona (several) yeti
Bike Setup:
z-2 bam fox vanilla r
Bottom Line:
nice bike! but really if you ride (really ride), eventually you will crash.and sooner or later the lack of replaceable der hanger will come back to haunt you.it's lunacy (or cost cutting) not to have one these days. the bike gets 4.5 stars but overall since I'm still angry it gets...
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Submitted by
Tyler
a Weekend Warrior
from California Date Reviewed: April 13, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Flume
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Everything from the fork to the rear derailer.
Weaknesses:
none
Similar Products Used:
GT, K2, Specialized, and trek.
Bike Setup:
Santacruz Heckler with a judy sl and fox vanilla r.
Bottom Line:
Sweet Bike! I have had my bike for only a few months, but I can already tell that it is the best thing that I have ever bought. Handles and climbs great. I recomend this bike to anyone and everyone.
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Submitted by
billybob
a Weekend Warrior
from cali Date Reviewed: March 26, 1999
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Bottom Line:
i performed the hand jive test (described below) no monkey motion. this bike here is sumthin that makes yer ride just as smooth as yer high skool sweethart's keester. goin' up an' goin down.
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Submitted by
MK
a
from cross-country rider Date Reviewed: March 9, 1999
Bottom Line:
I've put in a little over 200 miles on my '99 Heckler since I got it at the beginning of this year. It's built up with '99 XT drivetrain, Fox Vanilla coil-over, '98 Z1 BAM up front, Time ATAC pedals, and Avid brakes and levers. For the specifics, go to the site. It's still a bit early to review this bike for me (I prefer the first 300 miles), but I love this bike so much, I'm breaking my own rules. First off, I put this bike through every possible terrain and trail available to me in my area of So. California: steep climbs and scary descents, fire road, singletrack, hardpack, loose rock, mud, some sand, blah blah blah. It's an awesome climber. I own two hardtails(Scott & Fisher) and another FS bike(Fisher) that my wife now rides, and I must say it the best climber out of the bunch. In very simple terms, the wheels never leave the ground in any of the above mentioned conditions. It's a lot easier with my Heckler to get the right balance of rear traction and front tracking on very steep climbs. As for going down the mountain, no complaints in this department as well. Coming from an URT FS bike, I do notice a performance difference. Definitely more responsive, but slower ramp up in certain conditions. Maybe it's the spring rate. Construction, paint, shifting, wheels (VERY LIGHT), all flawless so far. My only complaint, and this is for most bikes these days, is no quick release for the seat tube. It's a nitpick, but it comes in handy for me often. So, as far as my early review on the Heckler goes, it is a near perfect all around bike. If you're interested in one, don't hesitate, just do it and you won't be dissapointed.
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Submitted by
no one
a racer
from norcal Date Reviewed: February 18, 1999
Bottom Line:
I think it is a really good idea to 'test' a bike by pushing on it with your hands. Maybe a better way is to go to a halfway decent dealer who has a santa cruz demo bike in stock and you can see for yourself that any so called 'flex' you get from pushing on the top tube or throwing the bike in front of a cement truck or whatever simply doesn't exist. Then you can understand why all these people below love thier santa cruz's. Its because they like to RIDE, not sit around and POSE pushing on their top tubes!
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Submitted by
Pete
a weekend warrior
from Nor Cal Date Reviewed: February 18, 1999
Bottom Line:
Nice bike. I almost bought one untill I put it to the test. Try it. Put your left hand where the top tube meets the seat tube. Put your right hand where the seat stay and the the swing arm tube meet. Now while holding the bike with your left hand apply pressure to the swing arm via your right hand. Watch the swing arm near the seat tube. What do you see? Flex. Dirty rotten flex. I hate flex. But thats just me. Tha Marin f/s bike do it too. Just lettin you kids know. Other than the flex I think the are pretty nice rides.
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Submitted by
Ewan Gordon
a cross-country rider
from Scotland Date Reviewed: February 6, 1999
Bottom Line:
I've rode everthing from Konas to the Scott Endorphin but the Heckler is the last word in plush, It climbs like a dream decends even better,hook up the frame to a set of Pace forks and a good set of hoops and watch the miles just melt away. Buy one you will not regret it....
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Submitted by
K. R.
a racer
from Honolulu, Hawaii Date Reviewed: January 25, 1999
Bottom Line:
So-SO, this bike has low mileage. It sure is comfy though. Got it set up with XT, White Industry, Fox vanilla R which I have to practicly lock out the spring to eliminate a bio pace in the big ring and a Rock Shocks T2 which is pure flex cheese even with springs. I got the bike at a really low price though. I would not race, not if your in to winning anyway. Still I have seen this bike take a first in a sport class race. After all it the rider not the bike. Right. A big fat minus for a non replaceable derailleur hanger. But hey, if you break a frame it's the best reason to get a new one. Another minus for being overweight and what no life time warentee? like umm GT? Cause it's made in the the USA that's why. I'd prefer it to be made in Taiwan and be garanteed for life. No I take that back cause if I broke this bike I would not want another one any way.
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Submitted by
kristian an up and
a downhiller
from Colorado Date Reviewed: December 29, 1998
Bottom Line:
I was lucky enough to recieve one of the first 99 Hecklers and have been thrashing mine since July. It is truely an exceptional bike. I have mine built up with a z1, XT and RaceFace parts, 636 pedals and 521 hoops and it is just a hair over 28 pounds. Its bombproof and light enough to ride all day. I chose the heckler because it was the best combination of a downhill bomber and a hard climber (and all of the great reviews on this site) and after 5 months and countless miles I would certainly say that it is the most fun bike I have ever ridden (and I rode every bike I could find before buying the Heckler).
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Submitted by
Daz N
a weekend warrior
from Manchester, England Date Reviewed: December 29, 1998
Bottom Line:
I have never enjoyed MTB'ing so much! What a bike. I used to own a Turner and it wasn't a patch on the Heckler. I have a pair of Pace pro class mxcd's and lots of trick bit and this bike is just simply the best I have ever ridden.Thanks to Leisure Lakes in Bury for encouraging me to buy one!!!!!!If you are in the market for a full-sus frame then go to your nearest shop for a test ride before you waste you money on anything else....
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Submitted by
Phil Teves
a cross-country rider
from Orange County, Calif. USA Date Reviewed: December 28, 1998
Bottom Line:
My Santa Cruz Heckler is custom built with components of choice, XTR, White industries cranks and bottom bracket, hugi hubs with team issue specialized rims, Manitou Xvert R, Easton post, Answer downhill bar, Icon stem. A very high quality ride, especially if you are the hard core cross country or racer type, that needs the climbing ability has well as a very good downhill bike. Climbing on this bike suprised me on how sticky it is to the ground, even though I have 2 rise bars, 4 inch travel fork, and high degree stem, it sticks to the steep pitch of a hill, without ever having to force the front end down like I did on my other bikes. Chain reaction to climbing was stiff, the power definetely went to the ground. Downhills were a blast, it was almost laterally stiff has a hard tail, but with just enough vertical cush for cross country riding and racing. I would highly recommend this bike to someone who loves to climb as well as blast downhills, racer or hardcore rider, or weekend warrior. Highly recommend that you purchase a rear derailer break away bolt. This bike rocks and the people at SC are cool, and very responsive especially by email, and thats a big plus for me, because it shows that they care about their customers. They have my respect for years to come. Don't ride after a rain. A easily earned 5 chilis, PERIOD!!!!!!!! any questions?
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Submitted by
Dan Means
a cross-country rider
from Mission Viejo, CA Date Reviewed: November 10, 1998
Bottom Line:
Excellent bike, very forgiving. This bike saved me more than a couple times on some really nasty bumpy downhills. Climbs like a champ. No problem with any pedal induced bobbing. The Marzocchi Z.1's and the Fox Vanilla R work great. Worth the money.
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