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Submitted by
john
a Weekend Warrior
from san diego CA
Date Reviewed: April 13, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | the one I'm on | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$150.00 | | Purchased At: | ebay | | Strengths: | light, looks good | | Weaknesses: | not very sturdy but that's not a priority in my case | | Similar Products Used: | n/a | | Bike Setup: | titanium hardtail full XTR including wheels.Morati bars and seatpost Conti gatorskins | | Bottom Line: | I ride primarily "urban" and liked the look of a double crown to add more substance to the bike. Picked this up NOS in the box on ebay, AFAIK there is no lighter double crown out there. So it's been up to the task and was a good deal. Someday I might just use a couple of ti tubes and make a double crown rigid out of it. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nikola Djurdjevic
a Weekend Warrior
from Downtown Eastside Van
Date Reviewed: April 16, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | any good drop or jump | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | Ebay | | Strengths: | Stiff, strong, freakin light,almost everything | | Weaknesses: | That its only available in qr
| | Similar Products Used: | Rock Shox Judy C | | Bike Setup: | Block 8 hardtail, '02 dj1's, rynolites, avid v's ect... | | Bottom Line: | This is my very favorite doublecrown fork. Even though its intended for XC i would use it for my usual street drops and stairsets. But now i gotta sell since i got a dj1 cause im going into more technical stuff so it gots to go, if ur interested email me im selling it plus a frame, wheelset and some parts all for 250. Mint condition since im injured and i got a dj1 | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Janne
a Cross Country Rider
from Finland
Date Reviewed: August 14, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$200.00 | | Strengths: | Well made, long smooth travel... | | Weaknesses: | Color | | Similar Products Used: | Manitou XVert R | | Bike Setup: | Dacon, Hope XC-4, Mavic D521, LX/XT/XTR | | Bottom Line: | This fork is great for all conditions! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ken Young
a Weekend Warrior
from Orange County, CA
Date Reviewed: May 1, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | San Juan Trail | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$200.00 | | Purchased At: | OEM | | Strengths: | Gave great travel for a OEM fork, The fork was fairly reliable and was in good shape after 4 years of abuse | | Weaknesses: | weight | | Similar Products Used: | any 100 mm travel fork | | Bike Setup: | FRS with BETD long travel, Helix Pro, XT drivetrain , Z1 MCR 120 mm | | Bottom Line: | If you can find a good used one for cheap than go for it, I had no problem with mine after 1500 miles, I,m a 6'4" and 200 lb aggresive rider. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andrew McAlley
a Weekend Warrior
from Brighton
Date Reviewed: April 15, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Dartmoor | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$350.00 | | Purchased At: | supercycles.co.uk | | Strengths: | weight (for triple clamp), travel (for weight), colour (i've got strange taste), rockshox aftercare. | | Weaknesses: | cartridge (allegedly), not strong enough for hardcore DH, stiction, long bedding in time. Was available for very little money for a while. | | Similar Products Used: | Quadra 21R, RST 281R, SID SL, '98 Bomber Z1 | | Bike Setup: | Coyote DH1, Deore disk brake, XT/LX blend | | Bottom Line: | This fork is the triple-clamp version of the old '98 Judy SL. What this entails is one of the lightest triple clamp forks ever made, but not, by far, the strongest. If you're a hardcore DH/Slalom rides or are into big jumps or trials, forget it, it's not for you. If you're into singletrack/ casual XC/ freeriding, then this could be a very good fork for you - triple clamps make it steer very well, and the travel works well over all bumps, even through hard cornering. But i've heard from loads of people how fragile the cartidges are, though mine never blew. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris McDonald
a Weekend Warrior
from Victoria,BC,Canada
Date Reviewed: April 7, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | mother chucker | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$250.00 | | Purchased At: | chain chain chain | | Strengths: | great longtravel design, no flex with v-brakes, dual crown, looks good. | | Weaknesses: | purple! | | Similar Products Used: | z1 wedge, judyTT | | Bike Setup: | 99 Kona hahanna w/deore components, wtb sst comp seat, rs judy xl forks, and kenda kinetics | | Bottom Line: | nice forks, i can't bottom these things out, great and light for wheelie drops. they can take a lot of s***... straight up, i think these are better than stuff rs is makin today. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Peter Austin
a Downhiller
from UK
Date Reviewed: January 16, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | pinchflat | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | Winstanleys | | Strengths: | The nice box it came in. | | Weaknesses: | What was inside the box. | | Similar Products Used: | Judy DH, Quadra 10(don't ask), Marzzochi Super T Pro. | | Bike Setup: | Nice. See Stinky Deelux 99 review. | | Bottom Line: | I think that I effectivly paid nothing for this fork so I should not complain but it is not very good. Quite pogo like at times when control is needed and bendy when accuracy is high on the agenda. Very high when going very fast over very rugged terrain. For DH this fork falls sadly short and the finishing quality is very low. I now do not own these forks but if I was offered these again or some liqurice sticks tied together with spaghetti I know which I'd choose. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Troy Nazarchuk
a Weekend Warrior
from Edmonton,Alberta Canada
Date Reviewed: December 1, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | U of A | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | Some guy | | Strengths: | Very good from smooth ride very good in winter | | Weaknesses: | na/ | | Similar Products Used: | maintou magnum | | Bike Setup: | Brodie Jetson | | Bottom Line: | xecellent fork very good travel does not bottem out and good price | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
astro
a Weekend Warrior
from uk
Date Reviewed: November 29, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$99.00 | | Purchased At: | secondhand | | Strengths: | Cheap plentiful supply of unused forks in the secondhand market. Good rigid twin crown design. Excellent basis for building the ultimate fork! | | Weaknesses: | nasty colour, harsh and noisy topout, spring too linear, uses all travel too easily. Damping cartridge ineffective. | | Similar Products Used: | Rockshox RS1, Manitou 3, Lawwill Leader3, RST Mozo pro 4.5, Manitou SXR. | | Bottom Line: | Buy a nice unused secondhand pair for about £60 to £70, junk all the internals and fit a Total Air Cartridge system. Fit double bushings and the latest wiper kit. You'll have a great pair of twin crown forks for less than £200. Oh, respray them as well and put new non-rockshox stickers on, they don't deserve the free advertising! 5 chillis AFTER the total conversion! (one chilli before) | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
TODD PORTEOUS
a Racer
from FREMONT, CA
Date Reviewed: November 13, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | SECRET | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | WHEELWORLD | | Strengths: | TRIPLE CROWN STRENGH, LOTS OF TRAVEL | | Weaknesses: | ROCK SHOX CARTRIDGE (REMEMBER THE JUDY'S) | | Similar Products Used: | ROCK SHOX JUDY/WHITE BROTHERS CARTRIDGE, SPRINGS | | Bike Setup: | 98 GT STS 1500DS PANARACERS, XT,XTR,MAVIC | | Bottom Line: | After I finally figured out the right spring combo everything was cool, get the alloy caps for the top the fork tubes, the plastic ones are a little to fragile for my tastes. Like everyone that has dealt with rockshox in the past knows that it is only a mater of time before the cheap cartrigde inside blows, I know because mine did on the second ride on this bike. Last year while I was enjoying the rain at the Napa World Cup, I took it to the Rock Shox tent and ask if they could fix it, they tossed the cartridge, and installed a Hydra coil, for FREE. Since then this fork has been through hell without even a wimper. So all you fancy lads that like to whine like women instead of doing something about you're broken toys, see ya at the races. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mido
a Cross Country Rider
from Croatian coast
Date Reviewed: August 4, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Well the fork will serve its purpose if you don't ask too much out of it,but.... | | Weaknesses: | how can you destroy a fork with one 15ft jump? | | Similar Products Used: | Manitous, Marzocchi,HS moto fr, rs, rst, noleen-girvin | | Bike Setup: | Specialized FSR, xtr, hayes disc fr, avid V rr | | Bottom Line: | Bottom line, save your money for Manitou or Marzocchi, this fork feels totaly underdeveloped, like they started selling it before they tested it, sad.
I will be generous with my chillies though, cause considering everything the fork deserves a couple of chillies but definetely not my recomendation for purchase
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Submitted by
matt
a Downhiller
from Te Aroha New Zealand
Date Reviewed: August 2, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Rotorua | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | NONE | | Weaknesses: | FLEX
NOT ENOUGH TRAVEL
BLOWS CARTRIDGES CANT GET NEW ONES EASILY
STICKERS ARE NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO GET
| | Bike Setup: | 1999 FSR xt/lx components | | Bottom Line: | Piece of crap
only had it about a month when it blew its first cartridge its blown 3 since.
It flexs like a mongrel and has a harsh top out unless you've got money to waste or your very light I wouldn't go this fork.
It dosent even diserve 1 chille
not good at all Rock Shox | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Xtreme Ryder
a Weekend Warrior
from New York
Date Reviewed: July 31, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Killer trails | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Long Travel | | Weaknesses: | Springy Feel
Rebound Adjusters don't do a damn thing
Cheap plastic adjuster knobs
| | Similar Products Used: | Marzocchi Z4,Z5
RockShox Judy XC,Jett XC
| | Bike Setup: | Jamis Dakar Comp-Marzocchi Z4 Flylight-XT/LX-Tioga Factory DH-Avid Mechanical Disc-Sun/Rhyno Lite w/XT Disc Hubs
| | Bottom Line: | I like to freeride...this somewhat suits my needs.It doesn't suprise me that a 80mm Marzocchi beats the crap out of this Rockshox Judy XL. the Judy XL is great on small hits...but when its comes to the BIG stuff it doesn't come through for me. It has a "springy" feel which is not fun when your flying over rock gardens and nasty descents.If I wanted a POGO Stick..I would have saved a lot more money at the local dept. store! If I actually bought it in 1998 at full price I would be pissed but I got it for dirt cheap. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
big air ben
a Downhiller
from birmingham, england
Date Reviewed: July 21, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | licks | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | not strong but they r plush | | Weaknesses: | there weak | | Similar Products Used: | girvin flexistem | | Bike Setup: | marin east peak | | Bottom Line: | they top out, i managed to snap the drop out, bend a stantion and twist the one piece lower legs. the forks still remain plush but useless. recomended for freeride but nothing more.
three flaming dog turds | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rhys Jameson
a Weekend Warrior
from Victoria, Australia
Date Reviewed: July 13, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Hurstbridge Downhill Course | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$250.00 | | Purchased At: | Off A Friend | | Strengths: | The best fork i have ever ridden on. It has great travel and i have had no problems with it at all! A light fork which is good for 'gram weenies'. | | Weaknesses: | It could have come in more colours, rather than just eggplant purple! | | Similar Products Used: | 1997 Rock Shox Judy DHO's | | Bike Setup: | Craftworks Slalom Frame, Race Face Cranks, Tioga Factory DH Tires, Azonic 75mm Shorty Stem and Specialized 'Special Rise' Riser Bar. | | Bottom Line: | These forks are the best freeride fork i have ever used and i would recommend it to anyone who rides downhill or dual slalom! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Alex
a Downhiller
from Charlottetown,p.e.i.,Canada
Date Reviewed: June 16, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$149.00 | | Purchased At: | wheelworld | | Strengths: | Cheap | | Weaknesses: | It bends | | Similar Products Used: | dho,DNM-vts-20 | | Bike Setup: | Rocky Mountain DH race full XTR with XT disk | | Bottom Line: | This is a Cheap beginner dh/freeride fork.
I bent the stantions off a 12 set of stairs!
It was a nice fork.
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Submitted by
TIM PARKER
a
from VANCOUVER
Date Reviewed: May 16, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | WENDY'S , OR THE GROTTO | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$250.00 | | Purchased At: | RIVER CITY | | Strengths: | CHEAP | | Weaknesses: | USELESS | | Similar Products Used: | MARZOCCHI ZI QR20, THE FORK YOU SHOULD BUY. | | Bike Setup: | VARIES | | Bottom Line: | IF YOU LIKE THIS FORK YOU HAVEN'T RIDDEN A MARZOCCHI. THE ROCK SHOCK JUDY XL IS THE SINGLE WORST PRODUCT I HAVE ENCOUNTERED IN MY 26 YEARS OF BICYCLING. THE CARTIDGE BLOWS, THE SPRING IS TOO SOFT, AND THE BUSHING WEARS OUT. IF YOU LIKE TO RIDE AND YOU THINK THIS IS A GOOD DEAL BECAUSE OF THE LOW PRICE, YOU ARE WRONG! YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO RIDE YOUR BIKE BECAUSE YOUR FORK WILL ALWAYS BE IN THE MAIL TO OR FROM ROCK SHOX; REALLY YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Matt Atkinson
a Weekend Warrior
from England
Date Reviewed: April 22, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | anything rooty | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$90.00 | | Purchased At: | shop in england | | Strengths: | plush, stiff and reasonably light for a twin crown coil fork | | Weaknesses: | bushings wear a bit quicker than other forks | | Similar Products Used: | white bros, judy SL/XC/RACE/100/XLC/DH various manitous, pace, marzocchis, rond etc. etc. | | Bike Setup: | depends on the bike... | | Bottom Line: | I ride just about everything, DH, XC, Trials and Slalom, I like these forks, it seems thaty all the people who moan about this fork are jumpers and downhillers. THIS IS NOT A FORK FOR DOWNHILL OR JUMPING! it is supposed to be an enduro/freeride fork or for those who ride extreme cross country terrain and its great for that. I too have bust a cartridge but that was because I was jumping so I am not annoyed, I have now converted it to hydracoiol damping and use it on my freeridey bike.bottom line is buy a fork to suit YOUR riding style, don't moan whe nthings break because you werebeing stupid and using xc parts for DH and stuff. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Fat Twat
a Weekend Warrior
from Down Darlo
Date Reviewed: January 19, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | By the river Tees | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$200.00 | | Purchased At: | Abduls Corner Bike Shop | | Strengths: | Well made | | Weaknesses: | Too good | | Similar Products Used: | Boxxer, X-Vert | | Bike Setup: | Barracuda Subway | | Bottom Line: | Rock shox 01 Psylo XC
The Psylo XC provides reliable performance that can cope with the hits at a remarkable price. A mass of features make this fork incredible value. It is suited equally well to cross country, enduro, downhill or dual slalom riding.
WEIGHT3.98lbs
TRAVEL80-125mm
CONSTRUCTION
The Psylo XC has an aluminium crown and high quality EA70 aluminium upper tubes. These mean that the fork is lightweight, but also strong. Magnesium castings also mean lightness, but also provide incredible stiffness for performance.
FUNCTION
This fork is coil sprung. It uses Rockshox's Hydracoil system which has an open oil bath damper. This means that all moving parts are constantly lubricated for a smooth action which irons out the smaller bumps in the trail. In the Psylo XC there is a Homer valve which enables the fork to handle bigger hits by blowing off the additional pressure. It also serves to release air which may reduce the effectiveness of damping. The Psylo XC has 12mm of negative travel to prevent top out occurring. It is also one of the two forks which includes the Vari-Travel system. This means that travel can be adjusted between 80 and 125mm through simple screw adjustment. Rebound adjustment stops your fork returning too quickly.
MAINTENANCE
Through using an open bath system, Rockshox enable the components within the Psylo XC are constantly lubricated. This means that you can spend less time maintaining the fork and more time out on the trail.
This versatile fork is suited to a variety of applications, as is suggested by its adjustable travel.
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Submitted by
Loch Miwa
a Weekend Warrior
from Chicago, IL
Date Reviewed: January 4, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$149.00 | | Purchased At: | PricePoint.com | | Strengths: | Low cost!
Additional strength for heavier riders. | | Weaknesses: | OK damping.
Plastic preload adjusters (get the aluminum replacements!) | | Similar Products Used: | Manitou Magnum R | | Bike Setup: | Specialized Rockhopper A1 FSR Comp | | Bottom Line: | This is NOT a DH fork! You simply can't get a decent DH fork for this price.
That said, it is a pretty good freeride fork especially for the price. I am a larger rider (6'3", 200lb), so the added strength of a DC fork is nice.
The damping isn't the greatest. Unlike some of the other reviews, I haven't blown the cartridge. However, I don't have it cranked up all the way either.
I don't do any huge drops, so I can run the preload and damping a little softer than some may. I adjust both depending on the terrain I will encounter and if I guess right I might bottom it out once or twice a ride. I can now run flat out through some pretty rough stuff, letting the suspension do its job of keeping the tires on the ground. The Judy XL's 100mm travel is a much better match for my bike's 112mm of rear travel than the stock 63mm fork was!
Bottom Line - If you're a big rider and want a decent fork to replace your cheap original, this one is worth considering if you can get it at a low price. If you're looking for a DH fork, look elsewhere. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Cris Munns
a Weekend Warrior
from England
Date Reviewed: January 3, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Penshurst | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | White Mountain | | Strengths: | None, well maybe the sensitive damping but not much else, this is a xc fork in disguise. I wouldnt know about strength (blown 2 cartriges) | | Weaknesses: |
Dont get me started, any thing good about the fork is overshadowed by the forks bad stuff.
| | Similar Products Used: | Z1 bam, Jr T, Stratos MX6 | | Bike Setup: | Freeride, Coyote, D521, Club Roost, Azonic, full XT | | Bottom Line: | I got the fork free with my frame, bargain I thought. wrong, I'd have payed them not to give me this fork, dont get me wrong, im the the type that would turn down anything free (i cant afford to) but the amount of trouble this caused was not made up by riding on the trails. Sure i could buy springs, chuck some heavy oil in but why bother? i got em only cos they cost me nothing, im not going to spend anything on bad forks now.
If your a wannabe DH'er youl love these forks, if your even half good youll realise have poor they are DONT BUY THEM (unless your into xc and enduro)Ill give them a good value rating cos they cost me nothing | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
miguel franco
a Downhiller
from lisbon/portugal
Date Reviewed: December 25, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | jamor/sintra | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$150.00 | | Strengths: | well,the owner had some problems with the cartridges too,but the rock shox service here at portugal was quick and good sinse then he haven't had anymore problems with the fork....it doesn't suck everything like the boxxer,but its a nice double bridge fork,for a good downhill | | Weaknesses: | cartridges and new stickers are hard to get | | Similar Products Used: | z1 cr | | Bike Setup: | grisley megacombe/gt sts 1000 | | Bottom Line: | nice fork if you get as cheap as i got it.....sincs this (2001) year the judy tt replaced it,it's a museum part!!just joking mb fellows
have a good ride and let the fork suck it!!!!!!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dragan Antonovic
a Downhiller
from Novi Sad,Yugoslavia
Date Reviewed: December 15, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Downhill | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$680.00 | | Purchased At: | Fanatic bike shop Yu | | Strengths: | Good fork,but I have 100kg,and my judy xl `98 have springs for 82kg. | | Weaknesses: | Could rockshox produce that fork with spring for rider who have about 100kg. | | Similar Products Used: | ROCK SHOX JUDY XL 1998 100mm | | Bike Setup: | kona stab `98 ,JUDY XL,SHIMANO STX-RC MAGURA HS22 RACE LINE YELLOW
| | Bottom Line: | It`s good fork & my bike.But if there is any downhill man who can send me some them "old" or "new" ACCESORIES like deraileurs,rapidfire,brakesets for dh here please contact me by email.You there in america have everything to buy what You have,but here in Yugoslavia social situation is really on low level, and average salaries range between 35 and 50 USA dollars, what is not enough for food and bills, not to mention necessary MTB kit. Sponsorships are impossible, because all the money goes to sports like football, basketball and volleyball. Mountain biking is not so developed in Yugoslavia, probably due to high prices of racing bikes and components.
However, my friends and me are giving much effort in popularization of this beautiful sport, under the name of MTB Fanatic.
Well i hope so to someone can help me with that thinks...
Happy christmas and new year
Sincerely Yours
Dragan
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Submitted by
Buck Futter
a Weekend Warrior
from Canada Eh
Date Reviewed: November 21, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Boogy Man, north shore | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$200.00 | | Purchased At: | Your moms house | | Strengths: | Long smooth travel, nice feel, good for my weight 135lb | | Weaknesses: | end caps: Crap plastic | | Similar Products Used: | Judy DH, Z1, other stuff | | Bike Setup: | 98 Rocky mountian element w/ formula disk r/f, sun dbl wide, all easton ct2 baby! | | Bottom Line: | I can't belive you biznaches! This fork is great! The only reason you would break it, is because your too darn cheap to shell out the big bucks for a jr. T, or other pricy long travel fork. Save you money, if you are totally hardcore. This fork wasn't built for numpty's like you.
I love it and have had no problems with it!!!!
Purple color homo though. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jon Webster
a Weekend Warrior
from Derby, UK
Date Reviewed: November 10, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Peak District | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$300.00 | | Purchased At: | JE James, Sheffield | | Strengths: | Strong, easy to maintain, fairly light | | Weaknesses: | Could be lighter. Needed a brake booster against the lateral force of XT V-brakes to stop them flexing. | | Similar Products Used: | Indy SL Long Travel | | Bike Setup: | Trek Y-11 carbon-fibre as a playbike, XT groupset, Judy front, Fox Vanilla coil-over-oil rear | | Bottom Line: | I've read a lot of reviews about these forks which suggest they aren't up to much, but I picked mine up for £200 when the previous rrp had been nearly £600, and I have not had single problem with them in two years.
After 12 months hard and dirty riding in the Peak District, I thought I ought to strip them down, and did so. Inside, they were absolutely pristine - the seals and gaiters had kept EVERYTHING out.
They give a reliable 4" of front travel which has never let me down yet, and matches well with the 4" of rear travel off the Y-11's Fox Vanilla.
They were slightly bendy against the XT V-brakes, but a cheap U-type brake-booster stopped that.
I reckon these forks will give years of good service if -
a) you keep the gaiters on, the seals greased and clean the top of the forks after every dirty ride.
b) you don't start jumping the bike bigtime, which strikes me as the killer of any mid-range front-fork. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tony Linder
a Weekend Warrior
from Stamford CT USA
Date Reviewed: November 3, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Purchased At: | Metro Bicycles | | Strengths: | No Strengths!! | | Weaknesses: | I blew the cartridge in the first 2 weeks. Rock Shox still has my fork, supposedly fixing it for three weeks?? Im ready to offer Customer Service consultation for a HEFTY fee!! | | Bike Setup: | 1998 GAry Fisher Level Betty F2. Hayes, XTR, etc etc... | | Bottom Line: | I cant believe that Rock Shox would offer such an inferior product with WIMPY cartridges and compound the problem with an atrocious Customer Service / warranty department. They need a good *ss kicking!! I will not be spending money with Rock Shox again!! As I conclude writing this synopsis, I am in the process of contacting my attorney.......feeling a little litigious now!!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Richard
a Weekend Warrior
from Eugene, Oregon, USA
Date Reviewed: October 23, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Anything | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Scwooshy, lots of travel, mine's purple | | Weaknesses: | Not enough dampening, mine doesn't really adjust at all, really flexy (when I bang the front end on the ground, I can see the flex) | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | 99 Heckler, full XT, Vanilla X, Rhyno Lites, Syncros stem, Bontrager Crowbar, no-name seatpost (my Bontrager bent), WTB saddle. | | Bottom Line: | If you have NO money buy it, but I would save up to buy a Jr. T. I'm gonna buy something better as soon as I get the money. This shock is not really good for anything but being cheapish. I think it sucks. But it IS purple! 3 turds for value cause it's cheap(ish), and 2 turds for overall cause it sucks. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
babalooo roldenfuger
a Cross Country Rider
from canada
Date Reviewed: September 10, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | any single track | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$108.00 | | Purchased At: | sports junkies | | Strengths: | lots of travel easy 2 ajust and sucks up everything going up and down hills its smooth. I prefer it over marzocchi air shocks but not the coil awsome for a downhill enthusiast. | | Weaknesses: | can get annoying when going uphill in the city cuz it bounces but its not a big problem | | Similar Products Used: | bombers (z4 z5 z1 atom bomb) judy race
magnum, lots of no name | | Bike Setup: | Wheeler 5800 lx and xt | | Bottom Line: | wicked for price range if u have the money go 4 a jr.t but its an awsome downhill. If want 2 get this fork make sure u have a strong headset
and keep in mind rst 281's and lower are terrible immitations of shocks and should not be considered suspension forks
if u have any q's email me or im on icq 73462469
happy riding | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Trevor Martin
a
from Duranco Colorado
Date Reviewed: September 7, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | fast downhill and duall slalm | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$150.00 | | Purchased At: | off the internet | | Strengths: | fairly strong, good travel, price | | Weaknesses: | The judy xl is not the best downhill fork if your really into it. I weigh around 100 or so and i have blown the cartridge and a dummy shaft twice. I dont know if thats the fork or the 25 ft jumps. | | Bottom Line: | great fork but not for downhill. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
NICK
a
from MONTARA ca. usa
Date Reviewed: August 8, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | SKEGG'S POINT | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Decent amount of travel. | | Weaknesses: | This fork totally bites, mine only worked good for about two weeks. No matter how many times I take it apart it still sucks. It tops out really bad. | | Similar Products Used: | mr t., sid 100, z1 | | Bike Setup: | khs fxt team, full xt, mostly stock | | Bottom Line: | no matter how cheap you find it, buy something else | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
chad
a Downhiller
from houston tx usa
Date Reviewed: August 1, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | the black track , rocky hill ranch, smithville, texas | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | The judy xl's are very responsive overall look great, very plush ride.good long travel. especially the 12 or so mm of negative travel..really helps keep the front wheel on the ground. strong, good for mild-to-moderate downhill and excellent for just about any technical trail.easy to maintain.good for the money .. i paid $190, not bad. | | Weaknesses: | The weight is an issue, they added about 2 puonds to my bike. a little soft. adjuster cap at the top ...useless | | Bike Setup: | Gary Fisher HOO KOO EE KOO hard tail/ all shimano xtr
panaracer fire. good for a little of every thing | | Bottom Line: | For what i paid for them ...sure they are the 98 model... but who cares...they are darn good forks. long travel, plush ride perfect upgrade from indies or a shorter travel fork. good for the intermidiate ride looking to broaden his/her horizons. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tim
a Weekend Warrior
from Kingston, PA USA
Date Reviewed: July 27, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Downhills and fast | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Reasonably priced for a 98 model, looks good, decent quality, | | Weaknesses: | Company structure, advertizing acts retarded! Top adjust caps are cheap,and a pain in the rump to set up! | | Similar Products Used: | Other Judys and Indys. | | Bike Setup: | 1996 GT LTS-1 Trick Out! | | Bottom Line: | Not a bad product overall! I've had it only a year and have had no problems yet. Time will tell. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jeremiah Hueske
a Downhiller
from Westminster, CO
Date Reviewed: July 24, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Any fast and fun | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Affordable, yet very nice | | Weaknesses: | The damping cartridge is kind of a pos. But instead of dealing with the warranty crap I just right it as is, and it is still awesome. | | Similar Products Used: | X-Vert, Zzyzx, Boxxer | | Bike Setup: | Azoniz DS-1, lots of goodness. | | Bottom Line: | Anyone one who complains about the feel of this fork is just looking for something to whine about. Granted they bottom out easy, but with a little thing called skill this wont happen. Instead of the fork increasing stiffness a couple of inches into the travel, it goes all the way at the same rate. Not a DH quality, but killer for freeriding and dual slalom. Very responsive, makes rocky descents a little more tolerable. Happy trails, | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
sven bjornson
a
from vancouver BC
Date Reviewed: July 18, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | big travel, absorb everything, look good, especially for rock shocks. | | Weaknesses: | weight | | Similar Products Used: | marzocchi Z1, RST, rock shock indy, judy xc. | | Bottom Line: | i got them for $200 canadian (about $130 US) used so they were an awesome deal. if you have more money than you need and you ride lots of really big drops and stuff then get a boxxer or monster T or something, or if you want something light then get a Z1 or sid but very few people actually need a better shock than this because it is an awesome shock, if you have $800 to spend on a fork then get this and have $600 to spend on something else, like food, chips, bacon, something nice and fatty and delicious | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mel Cornell
a Cross Country Rider
from Indiana PA USA
Date Reviewed: July 6, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Enchanted forest Snoe Shoe WV | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Very reliable. Lite weight for dual crown. Plenty of travel.
I like the tight drop-outs. | | Weaknesses: | I did'nt care for the plastic adjuster knob caps.
stosk springs were to light for me. | | Similar Products Used: | Head shok (POGO stick) Manitou FS-TI Zoke 700
Manitou X-Vert (oil leaker) | | Bike Setup: | Cannondale superv 1000, XT XTR everything except cranks. They are coda taratulas, Kore stem Cane creek AD-10 rear. Sun sub4 wheels XT hubs Magura Classic brakes. etc | | Bottom Line: | I weigh 220lbs and had to change the stock springs to the heavier set. These only cost me $30. from the rock shox van at a local race. So now I have about $200. tied up in them and that was 2yrs ago. Ive never blown a cartridge after 1137 miles of all off road rideing. I live in south eastern PA and all we have here and in WV is rocks and roots so they dont ever get a break. I did through trial and error find out that they work the smoothest while using Judy Butter. I dont know why they just do. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Paul
a Weekend Warrior
from San Jose, CA
Date Reviewed: July 2, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Price | | Weaknesses: | The cartrigde blew on my third ride
Rockshox service | | Similar Products Used: | Judy SL | | Bike Setup: | Giant ATX980 with some extra's | | Bottom Line: | On my third ride, while still on my way to the trail, some gismo in the fork broke causing it to bottom out on any small bump. (The first two rides were gentle XC rides!)
I bought the shock to replace my Judy SL, as I wanted the added rigidity of the dual crown. Can't say much about the handling though - didn't get a chance to really test it.
The bottom line: Does anyone have a Marsocchi for sale?
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Submitted by
Peter Crannell
a
from Port Byron , N.Y.
Date Reviewed: June 28, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Bear Swamp | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Price,travel,durable | | Weaknesses: | Damping | | Similar Products Used: | Indy that was OEM on GT | | Bike Setup: | GT Rebound , all LX ,Rock Shox post and fork | | Bottom Line: | This fork works for me . No , I don't go off twenty foot drops . I do ride rough terrain and have had good service from this fork . Easy to service and adjust . I'm 200 lbs
and it holds up fine . May not be built for racing ,but good for wekend warrior . | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tim
a Weekend Warrior
from Kingston, PA USA
Date Reviewed: June 14, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Fast Ones ! | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Price(for a 98 model) , Overall design, Durability. | | Weaknesses: | Plastic caps! For what you pay for a new one it should be titanium ..Get with it Rock Shox ! | | Similar Products Used: | Manitau stuff. | | Bike Setup: | GT LTS-1 Dual Suspension. XT everything ! | | Bottom Line: | For the year I've been on this fork , I've put on it about 600 HARD ASS KICKIN miles, No problems yet, Hey whinners take care of your equipment and maybe it will last longer! Especially nowadays You know Rock Shox like everyone else has those slant-eyed japs manufacturing their parts ...wise up ! Dudes ! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jack
a Downhiller
from Ashtead,Surrey,England
Date Reviewed: June 10, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | avalanche cup,morzine | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | plush...though in an undamped, linear, nasty kind of way | | Weaknesses: | if you buy this fork, your WILL blow out your cartridges - repeatedly. they're pretty ugly too. the damping is poor anyway, and there is hardly any adjustability. | | Similar Products Used: | Junior T's | | Bike Setup: | Santa Cruz Bullit with Junior T's, Mavic 321s with Hope disc brakes, XT gears, Fox shock | | Bottom Line: | These forks are lame. I popped my cartridge after about a week of riding, and I never even did much extreme stuff on them. The british distributors, Caratti then took 3 months sending me a replacement, causing me to miss several races(I am not the only person that has had this experience from them). By the time the new cartridge came, I'd gone out and bought some new Marzocchi Junior T's - these have never failed me once, and they perform superbly (good price too!). | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Sambo
a Weekend Warrior
from Scotland
Date Reviewed: June 5, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Ae Forest | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | They felt quite nice & bouncy (for the short time that they actually worked), but that's about it. They were pretty cheap too. | | Weaknesses: | That Goddamn damping cartridge, which is an absolute pile of jobbies. Hardly any damping adjustment (but maybe that's cos there wasn't any damping for most of the time I used them) | | Similar Products Used: | Marzocchi Bomber Z1 BAM (4 & 5 inch), Z1 CR, Z5, Manitou X-Vert, RST Hi-5, Rockshox Judy Race | | Bike Setup: | Dual Hardtail type thing (Club Roost Stinger) | | Bottom Line: | Do NOT buy these forks, even if you see them for about $2. When my damping cartridge burst the 1st time, it was fixed under warranty, and they totally changed the damping system, and even fitted new bushings and the 2000 Samurai seals. There wasn't much point in this, coz the damping got broke half an hour of riding after I got them back. In the 3 or 4 months I've had my bike, I've changed the forks around 10 TIMES, and even tried to fit my old 1 inch steerer RST 461's with sticky tape as a shim, coz i'm so fed up with having a fully rigid bike! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John Morrissey
a Cross Country Rider
from Townsend Massachusetts
Date Reviewed: May 3, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | leominster state forest | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Built well, dependable, handles wicked awsome. Payed 180 bucks for it from price point. | | Weaknesses: | Blew out the left cartridge ( covered under warranty)
changed spring to suit my weight and every thing was OK! | | Similar Products Used: | manitou( stock on gary fisher joshuas) | | Bike Setup: | 1998 fisher joshua, sun mammoth rims, titec layed back post, DH K/Ti saddle, knuckle head stem,trucker DH bars,
magura hs-33 hydraulic brakes,nuke proof head set,michellin
wildgripper hot S and sometimes Michellin DH as needed, XT drive train. | | Bottom Line: | Good price, good rockshox quality, If you set them up correctly they will last( unlike some people of inept mental capacity who dont do a proper set up) They are NOT hard core DH forks! But they are good free ride or Heavy duty XC. Rockshox BACKS UP WHAT THEY SELL!!!! I have beat the livin snot out of the fork...Im BIG 250+ I ride very agressively and have had very little ride problems.
Compared to Hannebrink's LT-8 DH fork they stink but for
1200 bucks Ill stick with my Judy XL | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris
a Weekend Warrior
from PA
Date Reviewed: January 22, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | The Nasty | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Plush 4" travel, fairly stiff, durable, just right for my riding trails. | | Weaknesses: | Not as stiff as expected, bottomed out drastically with original springs. | | Similar Products Used: | '96 Judy XC w/WB cartridge and springs | | Bike Setup: | '97 STS 1 RS Super Deluxe W/5" setup for cross country with riser bars. | | Bottom Line: | I bought this bike about a year ago from a friend who raced it DH for 1 year. He liked it but, saw that it wasn't a full DH rig.
I use it to just ride everywhere. It is awesome for trail riding in the rough, rooty, rocky northeast. I put the extra heavy WB springs from my judy XC in it and took care of the bottoming problem.
This thing has been used heavy for two years without a broken arch or failed cartridge, and I weigh 250lbs. I raced it at the state downhill and did well.
It works.
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Submitted by
Dont Worry Doe
a Weekend Warrior
from NYC
Date Reviewed: January 18, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | HARDCORE BABY!!!!! | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Handles all my drops stair jumping rock hopping etc | | Weaknesses: | Eggplant color doesnt match my bike, DARN IT! | | Similar Products Used: | Manitou Magnum | | Bike Setup: | '00 rockhopper a1 fs hardtail | | Bottom Line: | I got the fork for $189 now tell me that aint worth the money and also i dont know what the other guys are talking about..im a student and cant afford all these $500+ forks out there but you know what....its the rider not the fork that makes you good...so stop whining...and if you can get this for for $200 or less GET IT!!!
five flaming cow shits for this one! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Profesor Xavier
a Downhiller
from Van Wa.
Date Reviewed: January 7, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: |
any where on down hill | | Duration Product Used: |
more than 3 years | | Strengths: |
cheep fork
light weight
very plushy travel | | Weaknesses: |
light weight means plastic and junky parts
adjusts don't do cra%^& | | Similar Products Used: |
Judy XC99, Judy XLC 99, Rst 281, Rst Delta HL, softride stem 2 in shock, Noleen Chubby, need I say more? | | Bike Setup: |
Ironhore G-spot(pice of shi!!@#$%^&) Ironhorse G-out, Special ed Fsr(broken in five places), K2Animal(good frame this little piece of monkey meat, cannodale(also broke swing arm). | | Bottom Line: | Ok I admit I had broken I bunch of stuff. Thanks for reading my little story. First month I got the fork, I was a happy boy. But than I blew the screwball cartrige(3 years ago). Then I wore in the bushing(by one year of time). Then I broke the one piece junky fork leg by the time of August 1999. It performed very well in my hard standards. If you think I am fat, I'm not. I only weigh 145 with my pants on. This fork is nooooo good for jropoff jumps, I craked it in two spots this piece of sh%^&&* is only good if it doesn't leave the ground. For the shrimps out there that doesn't do sh!T, go get o.ne This thing is like a piece of Sh!t that is made out of paper. Get Risses for gods sake | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike
a Racer
from Fredericksburg, Va
Date Reviewed: January 4, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: |
Kpeak GW Forest | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
Rigid, stiff, good balance, tunable | | Weaknesses: |
Bad reputation | | Similar Products Used: |
RST, Marzocchi, Manitou | | Bike Setup: |
Jamis Team DAKAR w/ CaneCreek AD10, Maguru brakes, CK hubs, Kooka Cranks, Frog pedals | | Bottom Line: | I'm so glad I didn't take stock in the reviews here. So far I have 120 mileson this fork and it has officially broken in. It isn't to soft, as was noted by others and it is setup just right for the bike I'm riding. I run 210# air in the rear shock and run the XL with damping set for fast response and the preload 1/4 turn from all the way soft. I'm 185# and this fork came outof the box Stiff. I've notice no problems with the cartiridge leaking and the damper works well and is noticable when turned up to slow the response. The fork tracks well and is way adjustable. I was able to get XC geometry with the top arch flipped upside down. This fork gives me much more feedback than any single crown fork I have ever used. It is the best $150 I have spent in a while. I still have my Z2 on the singlespeed and the XMO SL02 on the AMP B4 that I race and I love them for their intended purposes, but this fork outperfoms them for overall day in day out use. It has made me a dual crown convert. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
sky high
a Downhiller
from springfield MA
Date Reviewed: December 18, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
laurel downhills | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
nice and plush, good travel and weight (4.4 lbs) | | Weaknesses: |
fix the damn cartdridges and $200 is enough to get better than plastic dampening controls | | Similar Products Used: |
moto m10, rs dho | | Bike Setup: |
schwinn s-30 carbon w/ full xtr and spin wheelset | | Bottom Line: | if you are considering buying the judy xl's dont just look at the price because in the end your going to end up paying ALOT more. With blown cartridges and new springs, you'll end up putting another $150 on it. rock shox do make some good products but this one was not one of there better ones. not for the hard ride, demanding kind of biker. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bike Master Mike
a Racer
from Canton, MI
Date Reviewed: October 31, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Island Lake | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
Good Travel
Little Stiction
Smooth
$189 | | Weaknesses: |
140-180 lb setup from factory | | Similar Products Used: |
Manitou FS
Judy XC
Indy SL LT
Mag 20
Mag 21 LT | | Bike Setup: |
Trek Y with XTR/XT/Race Face parts, over 4200 miles of major abuse | | Bottom Line: | OK, for anyone that complains about bottoming....Do something about it morons! You can rebuild the damper with a higher weight oil. My fat a** is 205 lbs and I bottom the crap out of it. Therefore I will use my mechanical skills to rebuild the damper with some 10 weight oil. It takes about 1 hour tops. This fork is sweet for major drop offs and jumps. I rebuilt my old Manitou FS with 20 weight oil in the damper. It was freakin sweet but pretty harsh. Keeping the spring rate somewhat soft for small hits and increasing the damping rate is the key set up for huge hits. The XL lets you keep it softer than the FS with the extra 1 of travel. This fork lets me go more balls out than ever. Its great showing off on your bike by riding huge stuff. You can totally screw up jumps on this fork and not worry cause the suspension will help you recover. Im majoring in Automotive Enginnering and specializing in vehicle dynamics so setting up suspension systems on the bikes is great fun and very easy to do. It requires only the brain of a chipmunk. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bike Master Mike
a Racer
from Canton, MI
Date Reviewed: October 31, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Island lake | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
This is a follow up | | Bottom Line: | OK, I just read a ton of reviews after originally reviewing the fork.No noticeable change when turing the damper adjustment. The adjustment is for REBOUND. It will not affect the compression. Mine takes over a second to rebound when the rebound damping rate is cranked up. If the fork is sticky when new, thats because it hasnt broken in yet. Mine was like that. After 2 weeks and 200 miles, it is smooth as hell. Ill show someonf yall what REAL riding is if you dont like the XL. The fact that is hasnt broken yet amazes me. yeah | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Superhuman Guy
a Weekend Warrior
from perth, W Australia
Date Reviewed: October 30, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
make me own | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
good travel, wieght
looks alright | | Weaknesses: |
pissy cartridge, bloody thing blew, got it on warrenty but had to p[ay $90 fo farkn new bushed and service | | Bike Setup: |
giant atx
lx/xt
judy xl's | | Bottom Line: | i like the forks, cost is good, love the travel and weight
only complaint is the damn cartridge. if Rock Shox fix it up it'll be a sweet fork. also not a big fan of the plastic preload caps | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave
a Weekend Warrior
from north van
Date Reviewed: October 24, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
pink starfish | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
plush travel good price($169). | | Weaknesses: |
bottom out easy cartrige blows after two friggin rides urghhhhhhhhhhhh. | | Similar Products Used: |
xvert t's
judy xlc's | | Bike Setup: |
kona | | Bottom Line: | good fork for the price. Crappy cartrige. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
BRS
a Downhiller
from Here
Date Reviewed: October 1, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
UMMMMM NONE! | | Weaknesses: |
POS!!!!!!!
Not worth the box it came in. Shitty travel, bottoms out. Looks like crap black/white? GAY! | | Similar Products Used: |
X-ver R, X-ver T, Judy 100, Judy XC, Z1 Bam. | | Bike Setup: |
1998 Santa Cruz Heckler | | Bottom Line: | Really bad fork, even for the $187 it cost. Travel is NOT progressive at all, bottoms out all the time. I can't believe Rock Shox is still in business, their only good product is the BOXXER. You know why I must give it 1 flaming pile of shit, I'd give it zero but thats no an option, I think it should be | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
jon
a Cross-Country Rider
from poway,ca
Date Reviewed: September 12, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
whatever | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
LONG travel for cross country, plush. Double crown steering. | | Weaknesses: |
HRMMMMMM | | Similar Products Used: |
Judy XC
Indy C | | Bike Setup: |
S-10 stock | | Bottom Line: | This fork rocks, It allowed me to take my S-10 (yes that's right an S-10) DOWNHILLING. Possibly a little too much travel for XC especially when standing up. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
dana
a Weekend Warrior
from boston mass
Date Reviewed: September 5, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
any big dig cit | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
solid fork hasnt bent yet | | Weaknesses: |
have to replace springs every month and have to get extra firm ones and crank them up all the way | | Similar Products Used: |
tons | | Bike Setup: |
i have a GT set up for just jumping shit in the city | | Bottom Line: | it sux ass for big guys like me but for the price is great for avrage size rider | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
bryan
a Weekend Warrior
from berkeley
Date Reviewed: August 26, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
mr.toads wild ride | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
um...it works
easy to rebuild | | Weaknesses: |
damper, plastic knobs
ugly stickers | | Similar Products Used: |
none | | Bike Setup: |
fsr extreme | | Bottom Line: | i got this fork on the 98 fsr extremem. i run no preload, the damper on all the way(does it work?), stock springs and white bros wipers. i've rebuilt it 2 times and i've never had a freaking problem with it. the bushings are dead now after thousands of miles of riding and descending but otherwise it's held up great to my abuse.i have no idea what happens when your cartridge blows so i can't tell you if mine has died or not, i'm 160-165lbs and it still works great for me.now they are 175 mailorder..good deal for a 4 travel fork...and yes i get all 100mm out of it.bottom line...works for me...might for you...good deals on it now except all i see are the ugly grey ones...mine looks cool with no decals and the eggplant purple color...cheers
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Submitted by
phil
a Downhiller
from BC
Date Reviewed: August 19, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
the sweet ones | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
plush, lots of travel, inexpensive from Price Point, springs. | | Weaknesses: |
rebound adjuster doesn't do anything. Plastic top caps | | Similar Products Used: |
Bomber Z1, 2,3,4,5, some manitous and rocksox's | | Bike Setup: |
Fisher Joshua | | Bottom Line: | It's a good fork for me. I haven't blown any cartridges, but if I do, I then have an open bath system. hehe. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mark
a Weekend Warrior
from New York ny
Date Reviewed: July 23, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
downhill anything | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
, plush | | Weaknesses: |
no dampening . Durability | | Similar Products Used: |
Bullet bros. Boxxer,Bomber Z3 lt | | Bike Setup: |
X2 | | Bottom Line: | This mierdat sucks cuz my friend keeps blowing his cartriges everytime we go riding. He just got a new one today and guess what when on the way to the trails he got of the curb right in front of the shop right after it was rebuilt, the damn thing blew for the 5th time in two moths dew to this problem I find my self riding alone cuz my buddy keeps blowing the shit out of the cartridges while I run smooth with my bomber. Fock Rock shox
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Submitted by
mtb_411
a Weekend Warrior
from Montreal
Date Reviewed: July 23, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
-Plush
-Solid
-Actually, pretty light for a dual crown fork | | Weaknesses: |
-Unknown reliability | | Similar Products Used: |
RST 160B | | Bike Setup: |
LTS-2000 DS w/coupe deluxe in rear | | Bottom Line: | Overall, in my case, this fork is super. It soaks up everything I throw at it and doesn't complain one bit! I know about the suspect reliability but it has not been a problem for me at all. I'll agree that when adjusting the damping cartidge, it changes nothing to the ride. I have just screwed it all the way in or out (i'm not sure) so that it doesn't affect the compression and rebound speed. I guess this might explain why I have no problem with a blown-out fork. Who knows though, it might just be dumb luck! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
James Davie
a Weekend Warrior
from Durham
Date Reviewed: July 20, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
DH @ Hamsterly Forest | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
Great Value, I paid £200 ($400) in a sale!
Rock Shox Quality | | Weaknesses: |
FAR TOO SOFT,
Bottom out like a drunk
Too Thin | | Bike Setup: |
LTS 4000
Rock Shox Deluxe rear shock | | Bottom Line: | Rock Shox could do better, but good for the money! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
veero
a Downhiller
from Southampton
Date Reviewed: July 15, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
LordsWood | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
I actually had the XLC's but there isnt an option for one here. No strengths at all | | Weaknesses: |
Everything
Crap damping cartridge
Bottom out far too easily
Crap plastic top caps | | Similar Products Used: |
Marzocchi Z1 Bam 5
Stratos FR4 | | Bike Setup: |
Identiti Mr Hide
Dual slalom parts etc | | Bottom Line: | I have decided to throw my XLC's in the BIN because theyre crap crap crap!
I am now getting some Marzocchi Z1 Bam 5 which is nice.
If the scale below was be in pieces of poo it would be at 2000/5 | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Scott
a Downhiller
from Alaska
Date Reviewed: July 14, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
Easy to service. | | Weaknesses: |
The cartridge sucks, plain and simple! | | Similar Products Used: |
'99 Judy XC, '98 Indy XC, Moto 120 | | Bike Setup: |
'98 FSR Extreme | | Bottom Line: | I like these forks but the cartridge system is not reliable. I just blew my second cartridge and am waiting for a replacement under warrenty. From reading the reviews on all the Judy forks and seeing my friends blow cartridges on regular occasions I am convinced that Rock Shox has turned out a shoddy product. Too bad, I like their forks but would rather be out riding than sitting waiting for parts to come in the mail. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mitch
a Weekend Warrior
from Snohomish, WA
Date Reviewed: July 6, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
Plush, stiff, Looks cool | | Weaknesses: |
none | | Bike Setup: |
Jamis Dakar Team w/ Cane Creek AD-8 | | Bottom Line: | This fork feels very smooth and active. I put it on my Jamis because It was a great fork for the money. ($179 Mail order). I was considering a White Bros. SC90, but it was more $. I am so glad that I got the XL. The added stiffness of the Double crown is very noticible. I put the Firm springs and a bottom out bumper in it and it is perfect. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave
a Downhiller
from uk
Date Reviewed: July 5, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
none
ok I guess they're quite plush
ok while they worked | | Weaknesses: |
flexy, soft, damping?
CRAP
cartidge? I suggest you order another 3
when u get this fork | | Similar Products Used: |
Marzocchi
RST | | Bike Setup: |
Kona | | Bottom Line: | the bottom line?
well........
quite literally utter pants, nuff said | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Peter
a Weekend Warrior
from Sydney, Australia
Date Reviewed: June 27, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Strengths: |
Effortless performance for most riding. | | Weaknesses: |
Damping adjustment system. | | Similar Products Used: |
Manitou X-Vert R | | Bike Setup: |
Gary Fisher Level Betty (OEM). | | Bottom Line: | These forks work really well and for the most part I don't notice them at all (a good thing!) since they soak up most riding easily. Even downhilling at the ski resorts doesn't worry these forks. The downside - blown cartridges. Mine was suspect from new with no apparent difference in the damping from hard to soft. And then there was the gradual oil level rise in the fork. When the cartridges are new these forks work very well and are a good product. Problem is, once the warranty runs out the cartridges become expensive (in Australia at least). Worst part is time waiting for spares and this is my biggest worry with Rock SHox products. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Alex Besz
a Weekend Warrior
from South Australia
Date Reviewed: May 31, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
The XL's are a solid product that gives a plusher feel than most shox I've tried. They appear to be strong and durable, and are relatively easy to clean. | | Weaknesses: |
Travel and smoothness doen't quite match up to the Jr. T fork, even though they are supposed to be about the same price. | | Similar Products Used: |
Z1 BAMS
Jr. T | | Bike Setup: |
'98 FSR Extreme | | Bottom Line: | These shox are excellent for fairly hairy trails, drops and jumps. I'm happy with the performance, but I might check the length of the springs soon - I've heard that they compress after a while and need to be replaced for maximum performance. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
marcos
a Weekend Warrior
from new york
Date Reviewed: May 31, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
that one | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
plsuh while it worked | | Weaknesses: |
blew it out twice in one week | | Similar Products Used: |
Z3lt | | Bike Setup: |
FSR extreme | | Bottom Line: | this shok I recieved on monday and blew it out on my first ride after the cartridge sucks I am glad that I have my z3 never had a problem with it | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Matt
a Downhiller
from Calgary, AB
Date Reviewed: May 15, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
No stiction, really, really active | | Weaknesses: |
cartridge is weak, blew off plastic topcaps | | Bike Setup: |
Mongoose NX 9.7, 98' version | | Bottom Line: | This fork is great for all conditions. I raced a few DH races on it and I still love it. The only problem I have had with it is the cartridge, I have gone through three, but that is only because of my riding style. I have since added a second cartridge to the other leg to make it better resemble the old DHO. Since then, I have yet to blow another cartridge. The only thing I wish that Rock Shox made was a super long travel kit so that I could keep it for bigger DH courses. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
DDD
a Downhiller
from DDD
Date Reviewed: May 14, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
DDD | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Weaknesses: |
Dampnig could be better. | | Bottom Line: | This fork is great. I don't know what everybody keeps talking about. Bad C3 bad C3. And what is the deal with less than 100mm of travel. I messured with a friend and got 103mm out of it. This fork beats them all. Get it. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Scott
a Downhiller
from Alaska
Date Reviewed: April 30, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Hillside | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
Ease of maintenance, relatively light and stiff, very plush with good travel, can be easily upgraded. | | Weaknesses: |
The cartridge! Mine blew out after a half year of use, fixed under warrenty. My buddy with the same fork has blown two cartridges in the same time span. Also the dampening is not very adjustable. Needs to have more rebound control. | | Similar Products Used: |
New Judy XC Hydracoil, Indy C, XC, SL, Manitou SX | | Bike Setup: |
'98 Specialized FSR Extreme | | Bottom Line: | I feel this is a pretty decent fork, but it is not without its faults. The cartridge is the main problem area. The dampening knob does not offer enough adjustment range and the dependability of the C3 cartridge is not very good. Fortunitly Rock Shox is a good company and their customer service and warrenty Depts have never let me down. I like this fork and have had no problems other than the cartridge. The new hydracoil is pretty sweet though, so sometime in the future I may upgrade. Good enough for 4 chilis. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Marcus Buffington
a Cross-Country Rider
from Florence, NJ
Date Reviewed: April 20, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Bike Setup: |
Specialized Rockhopper A1 Comp FS | | Bottom Line: | When I ride, I ride hard. These shocks are great, no problems. Easy to adjust, and fast action. No complaints. They've held up so far with all the drops and jumps I've taken them on. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jonny boy rebel
a Weekend Warrior
from Yorkshire
Date Reviewed: April 19, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
Good all round fork
Nice action | | Weaknesses: |
Crap damping ajustment
Bit overeactive | | Similar Products Used: |
Bombers
Xverts | | Bike Setup: |
Full sus Gary fisher | | Bottom Line: | I like the xl. I have not had any real trouble with it while i have owned it. Performs pretty well on the trial but not as well as my bomber z1s. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Greg Ludwick
a Downhiller
from Ontario(toronto)
Date Reviewed: April 9, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
... | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Bottom Line: | I have this forck for about 3 weeks and i did use it for my traning...(downhill) But after i rode it i think i'm gonna let it on the bike until it warned out, 'cus thi s for works better than the DHO of the past year, better than the x-vert r of one of my friend, this fork is more supple , eat more big bumbs than the other of it's category (i mean better than the X_VERT R,better than the hi 5,and the Junior t), and i don't lies..... This forks rules, i would say the XL egual the white Brother.... i give five chilies to Rock Shox For the good job.... Good works guys... | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bryan
a Weekend Warrior
from GA
Date Reviewed: March 15, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
super plush, stiff,great long travel | | Weaknesses: |
none so far | | Bike Setup: |
on my univega FS frame | | Bottom Line: | It is a great upgrade from the original fork on my bike, soo much stiffer and plusher. I ride a lot of rooty terain and it is great. 5 stars for now because I havent had a problem with the damper. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Steve
a weekend warrior
from WA
Date Reviewed: February 23, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
I got the 98 XL-C on a slightly used Gary Fisher Level Betty. I am very impressed with the performance. I weigh 240lbs and the stock set-up works fine, I've never had a problem with bottoming out yet. My only concern is that the first owner removed the boots, which isn't a good idea in Wa where it rains 300 days out of the year. So in a really muddy ride, they seized up-no travel at all. This scared the hell out of me, being kind of new to the game. But I just went to R.S.'s web sit, printed out the manual and serviced them myself. Now, they are better than new. A quality product I say. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tony
a weekend warrior
from Manhattan, KS
Date Reviewed: February 23, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
I have had the Judy XL for about a month now, and I love it. I do have one complaint (like alomost everyone else). The dampaning is NOT noticeable. I can't tell any difference between fully open and closed. That is the only thing wrong with it. Stiffness is superb, and having 4 of plush travel is great. Plus it makes mike bike track like it was on rails. Would give it 5 chillies, except for the dampaning! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
dave
a weekend warrior
from Pa, USA
Date Reviewed: February 3, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
Came stock on '98 FSR extreme. Cartridge blew on third ride. I guess
rockshox have only had THREE years to sort out cartridges, we can't expect
em to get it right so soon can we?! FWIW I weigh 140lbs.Considering trading up to a XvertR-thicker, stiffer stanchions and
more reliable damping. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave
a cross-country rider
from Ottawa
Date Reviewed: January 21, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
Im not quite sure why everyone is whining about this fork. I put it on my joshua Z0 and I could not be happier. I had a Judy XC on before, and the improvement from that was amazing with the XL. XCs are pretty strong forks for XC, but these XLs smoothed everything out. I had to replace my rear spring with a lighter one to accomodate the increased plushness up front. Ive never blown them, barely done anything to maintain them (just a lil butter now and then), and just keep pounding them. They like it and have worked wonderfully. No one I know has had many problems with them, XC or DH. Certainly worth the cash. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
didi
a racer
from germany
Date Reviewed: January 12, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
The XL is a fork for weekanddriver, but not for freerider and racer.
I blow out 2 cartridges, the first afer 50 miles, the next afer 1500.
You have to clean and put new judybutter in in evers 300 miles or all 2 mounth.
If it works the fork works well. After 1500 miles the rings in the forks i have to change.
fazit: if you dont drive hard and mutch, the fork will be ok, but if you drive hard and mutch, RockShox is not the right for you.
Now I have a bermann fork---- the best!didi
| | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ben
a downhiller
from New Zealand
Date Reviewed: December 5, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I put my XLs on a hardtail. Real good fork for a hardtail DH race. Had to drop the crowns about 1 so the bike doesn't handle like a truck. Damping is good, rebound is really adjustable. Very plush overall. Is this 50 words? Let's try... | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Sigurd Schiller
a weekend warrior
from Cologne, Germany
Date Reviewed: November 1, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have the XL now for three month. It came with Specialized FSR extreme. So far it's the best fork I've ever ridden. For xc and downhill! I rode several Manitous and a Headshock (the XL is not much more flexy than the Headshock). You can't adjustment the catridge even there is a knob but it isn't necesarry. No problems with the cartridge itself so far, but my brother has the same fork and he blew it already. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John Wats
a downhiller
from Sann JO
Date Reviewed: October 31, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I got this fork, thinking i was going to get 4 incs of travel. Well i was wrong. I have never ever even gotten this pile of crap past 90 mm of travel, and i m not light i weight 180 and still this pile of junk will not get a full 4 incs of travel. Plus that this thing is a pile of shit-it is so sticky and does not like to take hit one and the other. All i have to say to rockshox is
WHY DO YOU GUYS KEEP LIEING ABOUT HOW MANY INCS OF TRAVEL A SHOCK GETS!!!!
I used to own a 97-xc-lt and i never got the clamed 80 mm of travelAll i have to say is what a bunch of bull shit! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Eli
a weekend warrior
from All Over
Date Reviewed: October 30, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have ridden the XL for three months now. For a bike like mine, which is my x-country leaning towards DH, it is an ideal fork. It has steel springs left and right, and one cartridge. The damping cartridge doesn't have adjustablility, even though there is a knob to adjust it. I don't feel it flex at all, and perhaps those guys that have said it is flexy weigh 200 lbs, or ride 50mph all the time. I give the forks a lot of beating, and the cartridge has not blown, fortunately. It beats the others in weight, the Manitou and ZZYZX come with elastomers (what the f***), and it has been maintenance free so far. If Manitou comes out with one of these single crown, long travel deals, it will probably have the XL beat. For now, Judy XL burns four. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jared Fronk
a weekend warrior
from Battle Ground Wa.
Date Reviewed: October 15, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I own the 98 Judy XL and everything about them sucks. After only 2 months of moderate use, I blew the cartridge. Not to mention that they are very flexy. If anyone is thinking of buying one, DON'T. I hear that the Bullet Bros. zzyzx fork is much cheaper and better than the XL, with some springs. Or you could even try out the White Bros. forks. These forks are very unreliable!!!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
peter wilson
a downhiller
from Aus
Date Reviewed: October 2, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
This fork is good and bad great down a rock hill shocking up a steep one if your into freeriding and or downhill buy these in you are a XC weight weiner than piss off these are not for you, so if you are a XCer than quit writing in and winging about them and get yourself some sid | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Zeek
a
from weekend warrior
Date Reviewed: September 30, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
after buying a 98 fsr extreme i had for two weeks nothing but trouble with my xl's, they are sticky and i blew out the cartridge twice ..they are very flexy and running a moderate downhill course at big bear they were all over the place ..the white bros 118's i replaced them with were a night and day difference and they were not that much more in cost...same weight.....its not suprising rock shox makes the customer the lab rat ....... | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Davide
a weekend warrior
from San Francisco
Date Reviewed: September 27, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I got a chance to ride a 98 SL recently and I can only say that it works like my 97 SL home-set up with multiple springs. The idea of multiple springs is really old and it ... kind works, actually it is just a cheap way to fix a problem (so cheap that I did it myself) and it works so little that almost nobody uses it. The performance of the fork is usual cartridge/sping stuff plus the added problem of the usual flex in the Judy's. A pretty marginal fork, difficult to adjust (try to change rebound!), flexy, uncapable to deal with a wide range of different hits.
It is a good trail bike fork: relatively smooth tarrain, no roots, no high speed hits ... if you do that kinf of riding it is ok\hard trails/off trail ... forget it | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
simon worley
a weekend warrior
from norwich
Date Reviewed: September 22, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I think that it is super super super i love it when i get a new bike i will have these forks . Rock Shox are super because they are not to much money and i love the feal of them when u are riding and they are not to hevey eather.super | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mark
a weekend warrior
from Isle of Man (UK)
Date Reviewed: September 13, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I bought Judy XLs several months ago based on Magazine reviews. I reckon that there is a definite Quality problem here! Some people reckon they're fine, others like me despise them! Yes, they're stiff, light and look OK, but the C3 Cartridges seem to be yet another example of RockShox engineers using us as guinea pigs for their ideas!I suppose they put ther oil in the lower legs to test for leaks before the '99 models. Shame that it slows down the bedding in. Try removing the oil for the first few rides. Has any body else noticed that the cart has pathetic adjustment qualities. I can't tell if turning the knob makes any difference at all! I swapped a pair of '96 DH judys for these and I really miss my WB Hardbody+ cart and speed springs!If you must fall for RockShox' marketing hype, wait for the hydrocoil '99 forks. At least you'll benefit from the free testing we mugs did for RockShox this year!!!!!Overall, forks three, cartridge (re)design, minus two! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Scott Benda
a racer
from Valdez, Alaska
Date Reviewed: September 12, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I own the same bike and have these same forks and am very pleased with them. I've had it since May and havn't had any cartridge trouble yet but we'll see. This seems to be the major gripe with the Judy line. To me the forks are great, they are structurally stiff, very plush, and have remained stiction free in the 500 miles I've put on them. 5 chili's. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Alex Campbell
a downhiller
from Canberra Australia
Date Reviewed: September 8, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
ROCKSHOX JUDY XLs SUCK!!!!!!!!!111
I bought a specialized ground control extreme with judy XLs and managed to get a stick stuck in the front disk brake, which tore the disk brake, mount and half the fork leg off. this sent me flying toward a tree at 80 Km/h. i jumped off and interfaced my head with the ground, splitting my $500 AUD DH helmet in half. needless to say, i didn't ride this bike again for a while. they don't deserve any stars but as many times as i try this syte instists on giving a product at least one star. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jeff Dardenne
a racer
from foxboro, Mass.
Date Reviewed: August 30, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Ive been riding the xl for a month now and I think its great. Its super plush, not overly weighty, very stable, im not too sure about the cartridge quality but its still early. Dampening could be better but how much do you expect out of a component that excels in multi dicipline racing....I use it in xc, dh, and recreational trials. This shock can tackle about any obstacles out their with comfort. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jesse Rontu
a weekend warrior
from Finland
Date Reviewed: August 6, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have tried the Judy XL fork couple of times in bike shops. I don't know about the reliability of the cartridge but the XL sure felt PLUSH. So soft. The only bad thing was that the fork made a little sound every time I pumped it. It's great if it lasts that way! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Guido Sticks
a
from Coquitlam, B.C.
Date Reviewed: August 5, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I am on my Bros. behalf, as he is not computer literate. His Fork is a JUDY XC, probably not much dif. His G.T. Zascar bike came with a 97' XC and he blew the cartridge in less than a month. With the excellent warantee, LBS put on a 98' XC. He figured it worked good until the performance dropped. He figured it was probably sticking due to lubrication. He took the cap of and the thing leaked like thee Exxon Valdez Spewing Oil out like you wouldn't believe.
He took the thing to the LBS the second time, Sean said O no, these things are not going to start coming Back, Now The Cartridge was grenaded again. He now will never get a Rock Shit product again, with PROOF. I cannot understand how a United States made product is so SHITTY!!!! R.S.should have cleaned up on every one else!!
Stick with the BOMBER you still spend a very little more, but you get so much more quality.The R.S. isn't even worth a Star YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR, NOTHING ROCKSHIT MAKES COMPARES WITH MARZOCCHI. WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE A BOXXER, OR MONSTER TWHY DO I HAVE TO GIVE ASTAR TO A COMPANY THAT STILL NEEDS TONS OF WORK. ATTN ROCK SHOX, YOU NEED QUALITY BEFORE PUBLICICTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
vince
a cross-country rider
from connecticut
Date Reviewed: July 30, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
This is a decent fork and rides very well, but there certainly is room for design improvements here! The cartridge damper is an absolute piece of shit. It is hard to adjust, the knob is a piece of shit plastic, and i can't even tell if the damping is working or not. Nevertheless, i will replace with a new cartridge and see if i notice any difference. Also i understand you wanna save weight on a bike, but there is something to be said about using metal top caps and think that would make the fork more durable in the long run. Also, how can they call it an open bath design with 2 teaspoons of oil in each leg? I have a bomber cross-country fork on my other bike and that fork is designed so much better. Adjuster knobs are easy to turn, made out of metal, cartridge open to the oil bath is much better! Judy looks cool and rides fine even without knowing the damping is working or not. Could use some overall improvements though to make it less of a headache. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
a root ta toot two
a cross-country rider
from Canada
Date Reviewed: July 27, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
This is the smoothest most plush fork around its perf for XC and A1 for downhill'in if you think it weighs too much just try it and you will never ride a 2-3 incher again if you want.light years ahead of any Bomber or manitou and will nock the sock's off a ZZYZX P.O.S. (peice of sh-t) works great with FSR's also fun for urban assult.I give it 5 big chili's | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mr.Crud
a weekend warrior
from Montreal, Canada
Date Reviewed: July 13, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Great fork. Beats the shit out of anything else if you do both xc and dh .... it's stable as hell, and it doesn't weigh a freakin' ton. As for travel, its just the sweetest ......... And if money was an issue, which has to be the case, well, for about 600 smackers ( canadian $ ) it's really a good deal. The warranties are also the best in the world. (_8(I) | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jhune Reyes
a racer
from Guam USA
Date Reviewed: May 13, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
It is smooth, light and stiff. I weight 150 lbs. I have this fork on a Mountain Cycle San Andreas that I race and this fork works great. My first impression was it is so soft but I guess it is because of all 4 inches that it has to provide and travel. I have a stiff 2.5 inch travel fork for cross country and I was not used on a long travel smooth fork. Do not compare them. They both have a different job to do. Get used to it. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rhys Edwards
a downhiller
from Australia
Date Reviewed: April 11, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
This fork is the best fork that I have ever ridden on. It is better than zzyzx (because you can ride it uphill), and better than anyone else of my friends forks. This fork on my FSR makes it the best set up duallie I've ridden (better than the kona stab). | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Greg Hankerson
a weekend warrior
from Phoenix, Arizona
Date Reviewed: April 9, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I've ridden 3 generations of Rock Shox and the 98 JUDY XL is the SWEETEST. I had a JUDY XC Long Travel and it was really nice but the XL is quite a step up. I managed to pick it up brand new at a swap meet for $250 and I have been riding every day for the last week with a big smile. My Joshua Y bike seems more balanced with 4 in the front and back now. It added half a pound to my bike and now it climbs a little slower, but going down I can go so much faster and in more control. The fork is stiff and steering is instant. Get an XL if you like Cross Country but your favorite part is BOMBING DOWN the hill in luxury, oh yah, and if you have $600 to spend. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Russ.T.Bollox
a downhiller
from North Country, England
Date Reviewed: March 31, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have had a set of XL's for a while now, I also have a pair of Jr T's. There is no comparrison, although the Jr's are ultra plush and fine for small DH whilst going slowly they are terrible under breaking they almost bottom, euch. The XL's on the other hand are wicked, not quite as good as my makes brand new BOXXERS but they are a 100% increase better than the Jr T's, Im also the owner of 98 Judy XC's they are also fantastic. RS are supreme once more. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ihatedorks
a racer
from Charlotte, NC
Date Reviewed: February 28, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Check out Garry Meyer's post.Garry the little star shaped black thingy at the top or your fork is your compression adjustment it clicks when you turn it, wow.
The little black thing at the bottom of your right fork leg is the rebound adjustment.
You wont have to wait for White Bros. I am all most finished with a cartridge all I need is two more toilet paper rolls and some elmers glue. All you have to do is send your fork to me and I will do the mod for free. | | Overall Rating: |
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