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Submitted by
cliff eisler
a Cross Country Rider
from regina saskatchewan canada
Date Reviewed: January 17, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | Came with bike | | Strengths: | Simplicity, longevity, ease of maintainence | | Weaknesses: | bobs around | | Similar Products Used: | manitou "six" marzocchi exr, mx. | | Bike Setup: | Old "Steel is real" Norco Nitro | | Bottom Line: | Well, time has passed the old T2 by, I'm sure. However, with once a year maintainence (Manitou Prep M grease), this fork has lasted for over a DECADE. With no oil or air to leak, it just keeps on keeping on. A good fork for taking on a long trek or if you don't have access to a shop to fix the seals on the latest "wonder" fork. A true explorers fork, it will always get you home. Still doesn't look too dated or lame, like an old Indy or Mag 21 would by now. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave Tschan
a Cross Country Rider
from Missoula
Date Reviewed: March 2, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | Sawmill Gulch | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | Friend gave it to me | | Strengths: | Not too bad for light trail riding, haven't bottomed out yet. | | Weaknesses: | Real bouncy, can't tighten it and can't get any real speed because it is to bouncy | | Similar Products Used: | Manitou | | Bike Setup: | 1998 Kona Muni Mula stock | | Bottom Line: | I haven't had any real problems with it yet but it is pretty bouncy. Kinda tough going up hill but overall I guess you could say I like it so far. I read about 30 reviews and most of you think it sucks but that's only your opinion. Maybe I'll have a different one in a couple of months. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Grant
a Weekend Warrior
from Victoria, BC, Canada
Date Reviewed: October 10, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Assassin - Mt. Zhouhalem | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | Came with 98 FSR Comp | | Strengths: | Low maintenance and longer travel than the Indy that it upgrades from | | Weaknesses: | Bouncy
Bottoms out easily
Failure of the brace | | Similar Products Used: | RS21 | | Bike Setup: | Stock FSR Comp | | Bottom Line: | This fork does not do all the things you want in a fork, but the things it does, it does well enough to be acceptable. Yes it is bouncy, but you can adjust to that as well as the bottoming out. I am 165 and did not find it too flexy, but certainly not as stiff as I wanted. Nonetheless, it was predictable which meant it was rideable. Too bad the brace snapped in two because the internals were still functioning. I played the upgrade thing a long time ago and learned to buy a bike at the right level rather than blow your wad upgrading. So, I rode this fork on my bike for 4 years. It did what it was supposed to and my next bike will have a higher level fork on it. So, lesson is... buy a bike that has a fork that you will be happy with and live with it. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andrew
a Cross Country Rider
from Boston, MA
Date Reviewed: March 7, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Lynn Woods | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | standard on 98 Ponderosa | | Strengths: | Worked well for cruising along the trail, low wt. | | Weaknesses: | very bouncy for slow technical riding with big hits.. Caution if getting one used now...Rockshox and there major suppliers are completely out of replacement parts for this shock.......Just traded up to a duke xc, haven't used it yet | | Bike Setup: | 98 ponderosa,, w/ lx/xt components, thudbuster seat post/ time mtb pedals | | Bottom Line: | if you buy it now and it needs parts you'll either have to call local shops forever to find the part,, or you won't find it at all...like me:) | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andrew
a Cross Country Rider
from Boston, MA
Date Reviewed: March 7, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Lynn Woods | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | standard on 98 Ponderosa | | Strengths: | Worked well for cruising along the trail, low wt. | | Weaknesses: | very bouncy for slow technical riding with big hits.. Caution if getting one used now...Rockshox and there major suppliers are completely out of replacement parts for this shock.......Just traded up to a duke xc, haven't used it yet | | Bike Setup: | 98 ponderosa,, w/ lx/xt components, thudbuster seat post/ time mtb pedals | | Bottom Line: | if you buy it now and it needs parts you'll either have to call local shops forever to find the part,, or you won't find it at all...like me:) | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Shawn
a Cross Country Rider
from kingston,ny,usa
Date Reviewed: July 20, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | straightshot | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | It has not failed completlely, yet. | | Weaknesses: | Super flexy and the bushings wore out in a year. The major problem is that no bike shop wants to replace the bushings. They seem to be sending me a message about this fork. | | Bike Setup: | 98' Specialized Stumpjumper m2. | | Bottom Line: | This fork worked well for about a month. I followed the manual on greasing the bushings and they still wore out which leaves me with this sloppy fork. I fell like I got ripped off by Rock Shox. Stay far away from this fork. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Max
a Cross Country Rider
from Concord MA
Date Reviewed: June 10, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | Cheap, decent travel, reasonably plush | | Weaknesses: | Very flexy with crappy steering precision. No dampening. Bouncy | | Bike Setup: | 98 trek 8000 | | Bottom Line: | It does a great job on the smaller hits, but it has too little dampening and bottoms out too easily for anything big. The rebound is too fast. The biggest problem is the flex. It looks pretty big and strong but in reality it tracks very poorly. This is a good shock for a begginer but seriouse riders should definetly look elsewhere | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mark
a Cross Country Rider
from Londonderry, NH
Date Reviewed: April 23, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | Goodales Bikes | | Strengths: | Well...came standard on my 98 FSR Comp...worked fine by me! | | Weaknesses: | OK...here's my concern! The shock broke at the brake boss (at the point where the "U" connects!) on my ride the other day! Wow, good thing I wasn't going crazy when it broke! Has nybody else had this problem? Will RS do anything about it? BTW..I weigh in a 165 lbs! | | Similar Products Used: | None...but I need a new one now! | | Bike Setup: | FSR Comp, Race Face Low Risers, Sun Rhino Lyte rims, WTB saddle. | | Bottom Line: | Satisfied until it broke...now I'm concerned about RS product! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Smudger
a Weekend Warrior
from London UK
Date Reviewed: April 3, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | All of them! | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | Local store | | Strengths: | Rock Shox build quality | | Weaknesses: | No rebound damping.. too flexy | | Similar Products Used: | Marzocchi Z2, SID 100 | | Bike Setup: | Specialised FSR Comp | | Bottom Line: | I know that these were considered to be at the 'budget' end of the market, but Rock Shox should not have even considered releasing a long travel for with no rebound damping at all..
They cause the front of the bike to bounce around so much, they could be considered as dangerous.. Far from smoothing out the trail, and making you ride faster, they throw you around like no forks should....
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Submitted by
Pat H
a Downhiller
from Renton, WA, USA
Date Reviewed: March 11, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Stay on Target | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | Bothell Ski & Bike | | Strengths: | hmmm..... | | Weaknesses: | wears out in a week, flexy as all hell, bushings get SUPER loose, bottoms off of 2 footers, stanchions scratch way easy......DANGEROUS | | Similar Products Used: | Z.1s, Jr. Ts, other Marzocchis, Psylo XC, others.... | | Bike Setup: | FSR ground control, mammoth rims, avid brakes, ZuZus, forearm cranks, blackspire ring god | | Bottom Line: | This is fork is dangerous, it cost me the skin on my face, hands, back, and arms after hitting a tree on a DH-style trail. my biggest drop is only like 8 feet, and Im only 14, so Im not punishing it too bad, and this fork is dead. it bottoms off of 2 footers, is SUPER flexy, the bushings are loose, it tops out from just the bike sitting there, this fork REALLY sucks. I am getting a Z1 or Jr.T soon....to replace this POS. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
GREG
a Cross Country Rider
from KNOXVILLE,TN. USA
Date Reviewed: January 16, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | HAW RIDGE | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$200.00 | | Purchased At: | CEDARBLUFFCYCLES.COM | | Strengths: | THE INSIDES.SOME MANITOUS AND SOME QUAD 21,S I HAD, BY NOW HAD SPEWED THERE ELASTOMERS AND BUSTED.THESE IN 2 YEARS, SERVICED ONCE AND THAT WAS FOR A UPGRADE CARTRIDGE. | | Weaknesses: | WELL...........?I AM SATISFIED.THEY CAME WITH THE BIKE AND ARE THE PLUSHEST SHOCK I HAVE RIDDEN.I DON'T GUESS I WOULD KNOW ANY DIFFERENCE.GOOD,BECAUSE THIS IS GETTING EXPENSIVE AND I DO NOT HAVE CASH FLOWING LIKE THAT FOR THE LATEST AND GREATEST. | | Similar Products Used: | MANITOU"SPORT" AND ROCK SHOX "QUAD 21" | | Bike Setup: | FULL SUSPENSION MONGOOSE 8.5 PRO,MAVIC CROSSRIDE WHEELS,PROFILE CARBON FIBER RISER BARS,24 SPD XT. AND A COMFORTABLE SEAT WITH FLAMES! | | Bottom Line: | THESE FORKS WORK FINE FOR ME AND MY WALLET.I AM 210 LBS.,RIDE CROSSCOUNTRY,ON A WIDE VARIETY OF TERRAIN.BUT I WAS STILL LOOKING FOR SOMETHING OUT OF MY FORK THAT IT WAS NOT DELIVERING.SO I HAD A ROCK SHOX CARTRIDGE INSTALLED IN THE RIGHT LEG.IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE THIS DO IT BEFORE FORKING OUT YOUR $$$$ FOR THE LATEST AND GREATEST ON THE MARKET.MAN IT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE AND IS EXTERNELY ADJUSTABLE.CARTRIDGE $100.00 AND TO ME WORTH IT.GO RIDE!WOULD GIVE IT 5 CHILIS ON VALUE RATING BUT CUT CORNERS LEAVING OUT THE CARTRIDGE I HAD TO SPLURGE ON. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Cajun Man
a Cross Country Rider
from Ohio
Date Reviewed: January 15, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Vulture's Knob | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Comes with front disc brake mount! Adjustable settings. Supports my weight just fine -haven't bottomed out yet. | | Weaknesses: | I'm not really sure if changing the adjustments is really doing anything. | | Similar Products Used: | Some cheap RST junk | | Bike Setup: | Mongoose Fully | | Bottom Line: | I have read other reviews about this product and that it's set-up is bad with springs and dampeners. I only weigh 150 pounds and I haven't been able to bottom out the forks yet. You would have to totally crazy to pay the MSRP for these. $150 would be the tops these forks.
I give 5 hot-dogs for the value because I got them basically for free! And so far I would give them 5 hot-dogs for overall rating since I haven't had any problems. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
drew platt
a Cross Country Rider
from cold spring, ny
Date Reviewed: November 11, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | jefferson nat. forest, VA | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$129.00 | | Purchased At: | bikedot.com | | Strengths: | cheap initial cost, good performance for trail riding, good stiffness and control, ability to be upgraded easily | | Weaknesses: | lack of damping makes fork bounce, somewhat heavy | | Similar Products Used: | RS Mag 21, Indyxc | | Bike Setup: | current favorite 93 Bridgestone MB2 | | Bottom Line: | I tried to read the 103 or so other reviews before I wrote this, so I wouldn't repeat what's already been said. Basically, I can't understand why so many people think this is a bad fork. It is the exact same fork on the outside as the other Judys(which people seem to like just fine)which means it has the same rigidity and control. It works fine on the trail, and if you don't race, you have nothing to complain about. I don't know who paid $300 for their TT, but at $130 it's a bargain, and the amount of upgrade options for a Judy is endless. If you have a limited budget, buy this fork now, and save up for an upgrade later if you have to. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Baron von Big Ring
a
from Wisconsn
Date Reviewed: October 29, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | Bicycle Doctor- Oconomowoc | | Strengths: | upgradable | | Weaknesses: | flexy, lots of play in the bushings, whatever Rock Shox says this thing will get for travel is a lie, bad seals | | Similar Products Used: | Girvin Elite, Zokes-various models, Manitou Mars
| | Bike Setup: | 1998 Fisher Paragon, XTR Rapid Rise (THE BEST), Total air upgrade for the fork | | Bottom Line: | What a lousy excuse for a fork. Too bad it came with my bike. Don't think about wasting your money on this. Buy a Zokes or Manitou instead. I upgraded to total air cartridges which improved the quality of travel 100% but I'm still stuck with a flexy fork with lously bushings & seals. The money I spent on the total air cartridges & pump would have been better spent on a closeout model Zokes or Manitou. 1 big pile of flaming turd for the SuperMegaConglom Inc. Rock Shox. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
DesertMud
a Cross Country Rider
from Hesperia, CA
Date Reviewed: August 31, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | SBNF | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | this fork came with 98 trek 8000 & it was a piece of junk from the first time I rode it. It is not at all adjustable & it constantly bottoms out; I weigh ~165. I don't know how anbody could be happy with this fork | | Weaknesses: | did I buy this fork at KMart? | | Similar Products Used: | RS INdy XC 97 - a much better fork than T2, but it's weird 'cause guts are basically the same | | Bottom Line: | this fork just plain sucks | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Alex Latteri
a Weekend Warrior
from Laguna Hills,CA
Date Reviewed: August 23, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Snow Summit Mountain | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | um...its cheap...pretty good all round fork..roclshox was great at sending out the replacement parts..nice and fast...and best of all free | | Weaknesses: | lets just say that I'm on my third fork..well third set of lower legs to be exact..I dunno why..I only weigh 145 pounds and I mostly urban freeride but I managed to break to sets of them now..no dampeneing also a problem | | Similar Products Used: | many others | | Bike Setup: | Specialized FSR Comp 98', XT, Race Face, and a lil' XTR, Maxxis tires..RIP...being replaced with a Santa Cruz Bullit and Z1 QR20 | | Bottom Line: | great fork for the beginner through intermediate and perfectly matched for the bike...don't know why I broke that many of them but the replacements cam within a week on both occasions. dampening would just be really nice | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
The Wise Rabbit
a Racer
from Virginia
Date Reviewed: July 20, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Panorama | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Cheap, durable, lightweight for $, stiff, can take a lot of punishment and abuse. Never bottoms out. | | Weaknesses: | Not as plush as Manitou's or Marzocchi's offerings, or RockShox's 1999 or 2000 lines, but that can be fixed by changing oil rate. As it comes, it perfect for xc racing, which is what I do, so this is only a weakness for some. | | Similar Products Used: | 97 Judy XC, 98 Judy XC, 00 Judy Race, 99 Sid SL, 98 Sid, 97 Manitou SX, 99 Manitou SX, 00 Manitou Mars 1, 00 Marzocchi Z2 Atom 80, 00 Marzocchi Z2 X-Fly | | Bike Setup: | Scott Factory Ride, XT, XTR, 9.0, Ritchey, Nukeproof, Mavic X 517, XTR V's. | | Bottom Line: | I have not overhauled this fork in a year and a half. Not that I recommend doing this, but it still works well. At 3.6 lbs it's hard to beat considering the price you can get it for nowadays ( around $100). It is great for people getting into the sport and will last as long as is necessary until the person decides to upgrade to something with a bit more character, because while this is a good fork in every category, it has no extremes: not extremely lightweight, not a lot of travel, not extremely heavy etc. I will probably upgrade sometime soon to some level of Mars, but that's only because I'm a weight freak. This fork works, and works really well. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Corey Poole
a Weekend Warrior
from Aiken,SC,USA
Date Reviewed: July 5, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Licoln Parish Park | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | long travel,never bottems out(76 lbs.) | | Weaknesses: | none | | Similar Products Used: | None (beginer) | | Bottom Line: | I think this is a great beginers shock. It never bottoms out&has very long travel. It is #1 for the price i got it for ($89.00). | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Eric Jackson
a Racer
from CT.
Date Reviewed: June 30, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | supply ponds | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | A good fork, overall. Light weight. | | Weaknesses: | Seems to get choppy near end of travel. | | Similar Products Used: | manitou | | Bike Setup: | Schwinn moab (Reynolds 525 tubing, Xt, Mavic 221) | | Bottom Line: | A good fork for a rider that is just getting intrested in the sport. When I rebuilt the fork last year, I put 10 weight oil in which makes it a whole lot plusher and also slows the damping slightly. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Justin Norquay
a Downhiller
from Prince George/ BC/ Canada
Date Reviewed: June 29, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | the chutes | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | I ride "north shore" style and I've been through a norco vps-2 frame, a Giant atx 860 frame and a down hill rim (back) all while using these shocks. They have held up to huge drops and insane air. When they were set to 63 mm setting they were good for climbing. | | Weaknesses: | They bottomed out quite a bit, and would flex alot I noticed this mostly on fast bumpy decents. | | Similar Products Used: | 98 rock shox deluxe rear shock which I wouldn't recommend for anything other than cross country. | | Bike Setup: | XT-LX components, sun rhino light rims, currently I don't have a useable frame. | | Bottom Line: | These forks are strong and will last if properly maintained. they are good for cross country and medium difficulty downhills. It isn't smart to try any insane hills with these forks. As for drops, the biggest one I did with these is 7.5 feet. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Justin Norquay
a Downhiller
from Prince George/ BC/ Canada
Date Reviewed: June 29, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | the chutes | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | I ride "north shore" style and I've been through a norco vps-2 frame, a Giant atx 860 frame and a down hill rim (back) all while using these shocks. They have held up to huge drops and insane air. When they were set to 63 mm setting they were good for climbing. | | Weaknesses: | They bottomed out quite a bit, and would flex alot I noticed this mostly on fast bumpy decents. | | Similar Products Used: | 98 rock shox deluxe rear shock which I wouldn't recommend for anything other than cross country. | | Bike Setup: | XT-LX components, sun rhino light rims, currently I don't have a useable frame. | | Bottom Line: | These forks are strong and will last if properly maintained. they are good for cross country and medium difficulty downhills. It isn't smart to try any insane hills with these forks. As for drops, the biggest one I did with these is 7.5 feet. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Superman
a Weekend Warrior
from Oregon USA
Date Reviewed: June 23, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | area 51 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | it works. feels real good | | Weaknesses: | flexy legs. rebounds fast. | | Bike Setup: | specialized stumpjumper 98 | | Bottom Line: | The T2 came with my bike and I immediately put a dampening cartridge into it. it now has a very nice feel to it and can take anything that my 16 year old crazy self throws at it. I have bottomed it out twice. it helps that I am only 130 pounds. the legs are a little flexy when you brake hard and it sometimes makes a thump when it rebounds completely but I don't really care. just go with it. I see these for sale all the time on the internet for like $90. if you want something cheap that works well get the T2. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Colin Busby
a Weekend Warrior
from Sackville, NB, Canada
Date Reviewed: June 21, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Street... | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Very lighy for the price, lots of travel, adjustable | | Weaknesses: | seems a bit flimsy, bottemed them out jumping staris last weekdn | | Similar Products Used: | rst 261, marzocchi xc600 | | Bike Setup: | 98' Schwinn Mesa, LX / Deore, SunRhynoLite rimms, 27 Speed Deore | | Bottom Line: | Well.....i really like this fork. for the way i ride (street, freeride, ocasiaonally hit the trails) i really like this fork. But i would not recomend for xc. It is nice and lite, and tons of travel, around 100mm i think., if you are doing dual slalom, or freeride, and are tight on cash,. then this is an awsome fork! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Curt
a Cross Country Rider
from Canada
Date Reviewed: June 10, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Whatever I'm riding | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Cheap, light | | Weaknesses: | flexy, pogo-ish feel to it | | Similar Products Used: | Z2 superfly (air fork kinda diff) | | Bike Setup: | Norco team 853/superfly xt/xtr | | Bottom Line: | I got this fork stock on my trek 8000 and it was my intial experience with suspension. At first I thought it was great. As I started getting more experience I noticed the pogo rebound feel it gave. I also found it to be alittle flexy. Although it never caused an ancident the front end never felt totally in control.
I think for the time (98)it was a good beginner fork which met a good pricepoint. But trying out the new rockshox stuff, especially the judys has raised my expectations and I would have to say never again on the t2 | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jon Hanford
a Weekend Warrior
from England
Date Reviewed: June 9, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Cheap, long travel. Not too flexy. | | Weaknesses: | If you don't keep the inner legs very well lubed. The teflon coating will wear off causing play that even replacing the bushings won't fix, you just have to junk the fork.
I've now got a judy race which is open oil bath, so the inner legs are lubed every time the fork compresses.
Should last longer. They'd better or I'll buy someone elses' forks next time. | | Similar Products Used: | Quadra 21R, Judy Race. | | Bike Setup: | Zaskar, XT, riser bars, USE XCR suspension seatpost. | | Bottom Line: | Cheap & cheerful, but regard them as a consumable.
Definitely check upper legs for worn teflon coating & play if buying second-hand. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
john
a Weekend Warrior
from sacramento ca
Date Reviewed: May 31, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | any in auburn ravine | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | decent mid level fork,cheap,great product for those of us that are not pros and don't feel the need to keep up with the jones',did I say cheap? | | Weaknesses: | flexy to some degree,reputation,somewhat bouncy | | Similar Products Used: | cheap off brand | | Bike Setup: | 99 pacific 3000yx,deore hubs,sunrims,RS super deluxe rear shock,blah blah blah, | | Bottom Line: | I bought this fork for $89.00 off the web and am sure you can't get more bang for the buck,easy to tune,yes they are bouncy but it's not as bad as implied here by other reviews,I am 210 lbs and ride fairly agressively and I just can't complain about these forks,bottom line is buy what you like,it's you that has to be happy with your bike not everone else!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Oliver
a Weekend Warrior
from Linz, Austria( Europe *g*)
Date Reviewed: May 29, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Mt.Pöstlingberg Pilgrimage Path | | Duration Product Used: | Tested or demo'ed only | | Bike Setup: | Rayleigh MT300 , bought in 1993, w/ the biggest frame size ever avaliable. | | Bottom Line: | I'm having one of these long-travel T2's mounted on my bike this very moment, and reading all that makes me think a little. Many lovers, many haters, let's see where I'm ging to end up.
I got it because it was rather cheap, compared to the other stuff, and I will upgrade if I consider it necessary.
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Well, I think it's an absolutely immature excuse to say
"I can't afford an upgrade".
You guys probably buy cars without thinking about insurance and gasoline as well.
Always remember: Thinking in advance doesn't cost you anything, and usually pays off rather quick. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dom Caron
a Racer
from Dieppe,NB,Canada
Date Reviewed: May 6, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | my own | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Value,no problem for cleaning,easy adjustable,perfecxt for freeride | | Weaknesses: | too bouncy | | Similar Products Used: | rock shox judy xc | | Bike Setup: | trek 8000 lx,xt,xtr | | Bottom Line: | Ive bought the 8000 2 years ago because i liked the bike for the value and i hated my old kona with the indy C's fork that never worked. I wanted a fork that worked and these fork gave me everything i needed. 63mm of travel is perfect for a rider like me. They never wore out but maybe because i'm only 120lbs. They are perfect for a 14year old racer like me. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
pat h
a Racer
from ny
Date Reviewed: March 23, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | thatcher | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | hmm.. none | | Weaknesses: | wore out mad quick, too bouncy, the guts were shot in 1 month of hard riding... tried dirt jumping with it hah.. talk about harsh bottom out | | Similar Products Used: | nothin like this beauty (sarcasm) | | Bike Setup: | trek 8000 with alot of upgraded parts (yeah its sweet dont question it) | | Bottom Line: | this fork isnt even good for a recreational rider, u cant get alot of speed cause its so bouncy, it is not stiff enough, not even worth the 110 it is now.. it came on my bike and i spent all my money on the bike so i couldnt upgrade till now andi havea 00 judy race and its a sweet deal u should get one theyre worth the $$ | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Brian
a Cross Country Rider
from Okemos, MI
Date Reviewed: March 22, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | decent travel, easily upgraded | | Weaknesses: | not stiff enough, no damping, not easily adjustable | | Similar Products Used: | Judy XC | | Bike Setup: | Trek 6500 | | Bottom Line: | When I first bought the T2 for $140 it seemed ok, though it was a little bouncy. Then after about a month the guts wore out and I upgraded my T2 with Englund air cartridges and a new set of adjustor knobs. Now I can hardly tell the difference between my T2 and my dad's XC. The only problem is that my T2 still flexes quite a lot when the front brakes are applied heavily.
If your a pro, don't even think about buying this fork, in fact, you shouldn't even recognize its name, but, if your a moderately competative Xcountry rider like myself and have a little money to upgrade the inards, this fork is definetly a great value. Many mail order places still have a bunch left on super sale. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rod
a Racer
from Corvallis
Date Reviewed: February 24, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Ashland Trails | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Cost. Bought the fork for my Bontrager Racelite and it cost me $50.00. | | Weaknesses: | The guts wore out after about three months of heavy riding. | | Similar Products Used: | zocchi z.2, manitou three, rock shox judy xc | | Bike Setup: | Bontrager Race lite XTR XT | | Bottom Line: | The fork is not bad for the price and is probably enough of a fork for about 70% of the riders out there. I replaced the internals with Risse racing products and have a great fork now. The kit turned a decent fork into a great fork. But was not cheap, but it came in a 1" tube and I did't have a lot of options. All in all if you are hitingthe trails the fork will do its job. Don't put this fork down, it doesn't promase the world to anybody. The T2 is a good stock fork and upgrade for the budget minded buyer. Lots of upgrades out there if you look. As far as value, you cannot beat it I bought it on blow out and am not upset with it.
The stock guts did not meet my needs, but everybody is different. Upgrade and you have a winner.
In regards to those of you who have decided to knock those of us who like the fork, lay off. You should think of what you are saying before you type it in. We are all intitled to our opinions. Enjoy your rides, that what it all comes down to. The rider makes the bike, not the bike makes the rider!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dalton
a Cross Country Rider
from California
Date Reviewed: February 18, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | All the masochistic ones in Bend | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Good price. ($110 nowadays!)After it wears in, it performs like a fork 3 times as expensive, if you ask me. Try upgrading to T3 springs if you dont like the fast compression of the T2's. | | Weaknesses: | Towards the bottom of the compression, there is a choppy feel to the suspension. It lacks some damping, but it improves if you put 7.5 weight oil in it. | | Similar Products Used: | 99 Judy C,
99 Judy XC. | | Bike Setup: | modified Raleigh hardtail | | Bottom Line: | Great shocks at a great price, needs working in, and needs high viscosity oil and mabye new springs for a better ride, depending on the rider. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
George
a Cross-Country Rider
from Dublin, CA
Date Reviewed: December 19, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Mammoth Mtn | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Strengths: |
Good looks, some adjustability | | Weaknesses: |
not hydracoil, not a real Judy | | Similar Products Used: |
Most Rock Shox and Manitou forks | | Bike Setup: |
GT LTS | | Bottom Line: | A good entry level fork. Most mail order houses are blowing them out now. Buy one with an aluminum steerer. Take out the original guts and put in some Mountain Speed springs. You'll notice an improved difference. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Matt
a Weekend Warrior
from Santa Barbara
Date Reviewed: December 6, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
very cheap ($150) and upgradable w/ Englund air cartriges to better than SIDs | | Weaknesses: |
they are still just springs/oil bath | | Similar Products Used: |
Jets | | Bike Setup: |
'99 GT outpost frame w/ upgraded components | | Bottom Line: | I originally bought this fork to upgrade with Englund Air Cartriges but have not gotten to it. To tell the truth i am not displeased too much. It is a lot better than some Jets that i have owned and not much different than some high end forks i have tried. I also paid about $150 for them, not the $300 that this sight says that they go for so i am especially pleased. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
pat
a Downhiller
from ny
Date Reviewed: November 27, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
the ones by my house | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
gets rid of the medium bumps | | Weaknesses: |
really bouncy, bottom it out every time i jump | | Similar Products Used: |
rock shox jett | | Bike Setup: |
trek 8000 (not a dh or ds bike but it does the job) | | Bottom Line: | an ok fork for beggining x c riding. dont try it for dh or ds tho | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andrew
a Cross-Country Rider
from Sydney, Australia
Date Reviewed: November 25, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Oaks | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
Cheap shox
Great upgradeability | | Weaknesses: |
Extremely bouncy
Not able to achieve full travel | | Similar Products Used: |
99 Judy XL | | Bike Setup: |
'98 Gary Fisher Joshua X0
Fork: RS Judy T2 (added damper and compression catridges) | | Bottom Line: | For the price it is great because it is designed to be upgraded to a Judy XC et al. To upgrade to a XC, just add a compression catridge. For better dampening, I also added a dampener catridge. The shox now works beautifully - good compression and absorption without the pogo-ing effect. 4 chilies!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dannyboy
a Weekend Warrior
from Charleston, WV
Date Reviewed: September 28, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
everywhere in WV | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
Decent travel
pretty cheap | | Weaknesses: |
Needs more travel
A little heavy
kind of bouncy | | Similar Products Used: |
Senior SR
Rockshox Jett XC | | Bike Setup: |
Mongoose MGX a80 | | Bottom Line: | I like the shock a lot. It's good. It has pretty good travel, it's cheap and it works. When offrosding it works like a dream. If you want a good shock for a good price- this is for you. I'm upgrading to the judy XC soon so this shockj has done me well. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jeff
a Cross-Country Rider
from Bay Area
Date Reviewed: September 11, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
reliable, easy to service, cheap, upgradable with a variety of kits | | Weaknesses: |
cheap (you get what you pay for), bouncy, heavy | | Bike Setup: |
Fisher Paragon | | Bottom Line: | It's good for a mid-market OEM shock, but it's definitely a stepping stone to something better. Don't misunderstand me, this is a good and reliable front shock for the money, but as you get more aggressive with it the shortcomings become more obvious. The first thing to do is get rid of the elastomers and upgrade to a progressive spring. I got a Dirtworks upgrade for $34 and really like the difference. One of the nice things about this shock is how easy it is to upgrade, it took me less than 20 minutes to swap out the internals. I wouldn't buy this shock to upgrade a bike, you can get a lot more for a little more money. If you get this on a new bike, upgrade it and have fun until (like myself) you just feel that you need a little more and replace it with a higher end model. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
mike
a Racer
from gainesville, ga
Date Reviewed: September 10, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
chicopee woods | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
adjustable somewhat, low maintanance, as light as more expensive shocks | | Weaknesses: |
bottoms out on 2-3 foot drops, even when tensioned tight; not a very plush ride, rather harsh on fast downhills. | | Similar Products Used: |
RS judy xc | | Bike Setup: |
98 stumpjumper, avid brakes, LX front derail, XT rear derail, bontrager and wildgripper tires, maxic 221 rims, richie pedals | | Bottom Line: | entry level shock | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
KG
a Weekend Warrior
from Boise, ID
Date Reviewed: September 9, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Corrals Loop | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
Low maintenance | | Weaknesses: |
The shock can't be adjusted. | | Similar Products Used: |
Rock Shock Mag 21 | | Bike Setup: |
Stock of FSR COMP | | Bottom Line: | The shock works ok but it really can throw you off with its rebound. It would have been a much better product if RS had made the shock adjustable. The knobs on top don't do anything. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
James
a Racer
from Washington DC
Date Reviewed: September 9, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
CHEAP!
Judy externals | | Weaknesses: |
of course the type II springs, but take 'em out! | | Similar Products Used: |
SID
Judy XC | | Bottom Line: | I got this fork for like nothing from a mailorder place and put total air cartridges in 'em and now i have a cheap, great long travel fork almost as light as the sid but soooooo much less cash. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dano
a Weekend Warrior
from PortlandByGodOrygun
Date Reviewed: August 30, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
McKenzie Rec. Trail | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
Supple, not too soft, not too hard. The riders who dis on this fork are nuts. The reason it comes with a Judy body and Type 2 springs is to provide a cheap, easily upgradeable fork. You can buy upgrades from Englund,Rock Shox, Mountainspeed,White Brothers, and Risse Racing, to name a few. I personally have left it stock, but if I had the money I'd buy an upgrade (I'm not sure which). | | Weaknesses: |
It's a little heavy, but not as much as a Bomber(which I woudn't hesitate to buy if I had the money), needs damping, flexy. | | Similar Products Used: |
K2 Smart Fork, Z5 Bomber | | Bike Setup: |
I have a '95 GT Talera that came stock with a rigid fork. | | Bottom Line: | A very cheap ($129.99 mailorder), easy to maintain, slightly heavy/flexy fork, that you can upgrade with nine million different products | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andrew
a Cross-Country Rider
from Charlotte
Date Reviewed: August 12, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
My own personal trails are awsome! | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
The fact that it is very hard to bottom out especially if you are light. | | Weaknesses: |
No top out damping i hate that clanking when jumping. | | Similar Products Used: |
Judy 100
Judy xc | | Bike Setup: |
Raleigh M200 | | Bottom Line: | Most people complain about this fork being bouncy
but if on a light bike being bouncy make it a whole of a lot more fun and thats what you are sopposed to be have anyway FUN right so i recamend this to you and give it 4 chili's because it doesent have top out damping. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Allister Chow
a Racer
from Calgary
Date Reviewed: August 4, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Big Elbow | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
Alot of travel
has a nice look to it
never bottom out | | Weaknesses: |
it make a werid noise when you compress the fork otherwise it's ok | | Similar Products Used: |
indy s
indy sl
judy xc | | Bike Setup: |
I use the fork on a gt bike. The gt bike first came with an Indy S but then I upgraded it to a Judy T2 Long Travel. | | Bottom Line: | The Bottom line is if you're look for something cheap and has a good proformance, the Judy T2 is your #1 choice. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Needy Speedy
a Racer
from South Florida
Date Reviewed: August 2, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
HardRock | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
Action is very good
Bouncy - but who cares
Just ride, quit crying | | Weaknesses: |
People look at them and say - crappy fork
Some people just need top of the line everything - even if they dont really need it! | | Similar Products Used: |
Who cares - people will probably have bad things to say about them also! | | Bike Setup: |
If I tell you what I ride - some people will say how bad it sucks! | | Bottom Line: | The bottom line is this - Some people just feel the need to have the best, regardless of skill. Its too bad - these forks work very well. I think the people really trashing these feel they need a super plush ride to compensate for them being out of shape. If your in shape and an aggressive rider these forks work fine and take alot of punishment. For all you T2 owners out there - dont let these reviews scare you - Just ride and enjoy yourself! They are alot better then people give them credit for! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ozzie
a Weekend Warrior
from Toronto, Ontario
Date Reviewed: July 29, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
Great overall feel. | | Weaknesses: |
Still very soft when set to the hardest setting. | | Similar Products Used: |
92' DuoTrak, Answer Manitou 3 | | Bike Setup: |
98' Gary Fisher Joshua XO, Judy T2 Front, Rock Shox Deluxe Rear, Bontrager Wheelset, XT/LX Groupo. | | Bottom Line: | Great suspension. Just as good as my old Manitous, but with longer travel. Currently using a stock setup. Very stiff during the first 2 weeks that I bought it, but now it's very soft and responsive. It works well when climbing for a suspension fork. I currently weigh 170lbs. and I'm very impressed as to how Rock Shox made this kind of fork. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jon
a Cross-Country Rider
from Iowa
Date Reviewed: July 23, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
long travel, low matanince,veryplush | | Weaknesses: |
heavy | | Similar Products Used: |
indy s,c,sl,xc
jett c manitou spyder r | | Bike Setup: |
Trek customized Judy T2 92 mm versionw/ c3 catridge? | | Bottom Line: | I weigh about 80 and this shock works great. I purchased the 92 mm version that has a c3 catridge for some reason. But it works great even better than the judy c, sl, xc. I reccomend it to a rider who bikes hard every day | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John
a Cross-Country Rider
from Exmouth, England
Date Reviewed: June 25, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
Not overly heavy. Smooth. | | Weaknesses: |
Quite bouncy due to lack of damping. Flexy legs. | | Bike Setup: |
Stumpjumper with Judy T2 fork. | | Bottom Line: | The bottom line is simple - you get what you pay for. And for what you pay these forks are ok. They are nowhere near as plush as my 98 SIDs but then I don't expect them to be. Looking at the other reviews the two criticisms I would agree with are the pogo effect and the flexiness | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Diego
a Weekend Warrior
from Cali, Colombia
Date Reviewed: June 20, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Las tres cruces | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
I really wanted a Judy XC, but i didn´t have enough money, so i bought this T2 with long travel and Judy looking, though i knew it was really an Indy inside but with a nicer Judy look. It was my first fork so i was really happy with it´s performance, good travel and never got it to the bottom of it´s 80mm, not even in 9 feet drop offs. | | Weaknesses: |
6 months after buying it and riding hard on steep trails and rocky roads full of mud and water, without a single mantenience, the bushings wore out. I live in a third wold country, so i´ve been trying to buy the replacements since then, and this is the time that i haven´t got them yet, i tried with a Judy SL bushins but seems they are not the same size. | | Similar Products Used: |
None, first suspension fork. | | Bike Setup: |
´96 Raleigh M200 | | Bottom Line: | Ii got what I deserved, i can´t blame the fork because 6 months in extreme use with no manteniance is way too much for any fork. I would thank if you could give me some advice about how to get this T2 bushings delivered to me. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Studboy
a Cross-Country Rider
from Mountain View CA
Date Reviewed: June 15, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Bottom Line: | This fork came with my new Heckler X and I have to say that I wasn't too impressed with it. But because I blew all my cash on the bike I couldn't afford a new fork. My BSG suggested I try the long travel upgrade for the low, low price of $100. The new spring and dampening cartridges made a tremendous improvement. I would almost call the fork plush.While I would not buy this fork. If one came with your bike and you are not happy with it the upgrade kit is a vast improvement.
| | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dan
a Weekend Warrior
from Chicago
Date Reviewed: May 20, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
has decent amount of travel, suits my purposes | | Weaknesses: |
not very torsionally stiff, springs are not stiff enough for my weight | | Similar Products Used: |
indy SL, 97 judy XC | | Bike Setup: |
98 Schwinn Moab2, T2 original equipment | | Bottom Line: | for severe off road riding, i do not recommend this fork. it flexes like you wouldn't believe. for what i use it for, it is tolerable. i would upgrade if i had the money | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris K
a Weekend Warrior
from Mechanicsburg, PA
Date Reviewed: May 14, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
lambsgap | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
light | | Weaknesses: |
flexy, bottoms out to easily | | Bike Setup: |
Trek 8000 sl with a T2 | | Bottom Line: | Good fork for light trail riders, get a SID though if you want a fork. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
ip freely
a Cross-Country Rider
from springfield, missouri
Date Reviewed: April 26, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
tested or demo'ed only | | Strengths: |
it has good travel for the price | | Weaknesses: |
it is a bit pogo | | Similar Products Used: |
manitou pro c | | Bike Setup: |
schwinn moab 2 | | Bottom Line: | it is a good fork for the price but i suugest, if u take biking serious, you get a better fork | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tom
a Cross-Country Rider
from Chicago, IL
Date Reviewed: April 26, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
came on a $500 bike Treck 6000 | | Weaknesses: |
everyone hates it | | Similar Products Used: |
Old poly Rock' Fox | | Bike Setup: |
treck 6000 | | Bottom Line: | I am 160 pounds and it is great. I think the problem is people complaining are 190 or more. Change the spring and it will be ok. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Peter
a Cross-Country Rider
from Kanata, Ontario
Date Reviewed: April 21, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
IT's FINE | | Weaknesses: |
Not many | | Bottom Line: | This thing does not suck. My friends are impressed, one says that it even works better then his bombers, z4, 99. I got it for $300 last year(don't ask how) and now I have enough to buy a XTR derailer. bye. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Matt
a Weekend Warrior
from Sydney,Australia
Date Reviewed: April 2, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Bottom Line: | Guys, you get what you pay for. It's that simple! I rode on RST 381's for about 1 year before the upgrade to the Judy's and there is no comparison. The twice the price T2's are heaps better. So will not forks worth more than the T2's perform better?, I'd hope so. Remember buy a fork to suit your purpose and that it's the rider that makes the bike, not the bike that makes the rider. For the price they are a damn nice fork, and would advise other weekend warriors to use this fork. Although they may be a little soft for heavy riders(I only weigh 57kg). No complaints here. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mitchell Stead
a Racer
from Canada
Date Reviewed: March 31, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
White Hills | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
Tough
Very plush
Great buy | | Weaknesses: |
none | | Similar Products Used: |
Rock Shox Indy C
RST 281 and 381
99 JUDY SL | | Bike Setup: |
1998 Schwinn Moab 2, Judy T2 | | Bottom Line: | The Best buy for 1998 if you don't want the cartridge YET! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
don
a weekend warrior
from middle of nowhere PA
Date Reviewed: March 5, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
There are a lot of dopefeinds on this site saying this fork is ok. true i still have mine and am riding it on my bike, but i'm ashamed of it still. i have a reason for it though. i got sued and had to sell my fsr. after a year of trying to sell this fork - practically brand new and for 100 bucks - nobody out there wanted such a loser fork, i had it laying around the only fork to put on my cheap new cdale just so i could ride in financial duress. as soon as i get some money it's gone. i might make a pilgrimage to the grand canyon and throw the damn thing in. it is the worst fork imaginable. by anything else! too bad you can't demand flaming clusters of shunk for it, you'd be better off | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
bob
a cross-country rider
from canada
Date Reviewed: February 23, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
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Submitted by
Alex Phyco Millar
a weekend warrior
from England UK.
Date Reviewed: February 14, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
I have these forks and I think they are alright for the money you pay for them. When I go into town I see peoples heads turning and all my friends say Hey shite forks mate, but they don't know zip. I think if you have the money buy them. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
DJB
a weekend warrior
from London
Date Reviewed: February 1, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
Overall a pretty good fork. Have to leave it to bed in and then strip it down using lighter weight grease. Once you do that its pretty supply. Other than that, lots of travel, not too hefty. Pity about the lack of adjustability, though.
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Submitted by
Charles
a cross-country rider
from Pasadena, Ca
Date Reviewed: January 4, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
The Judy T2 1998 is intended for entry level bikes and does not have a dampening cartridge to minimize the pogo effect on hits. Always ask your bike shop proffesional if the shocks elastomer weight rate is right for you. For an original equipment fork on my $819.00 fsr comp, I am very happy with it's performance. It has been very responsive for me, on small and large drop offs in the San Gabriel single tracks. Don't forget you can upgrade the internals to a spring w/ dampening system or englands air ride!!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
bob
a cross-country rider
from ri
Date Reviewed: January 1, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
This fork is o.k for recreational riding at slower than race speeds. With out any form of dampning, it can never perform as well as forks designed for higher intensity riding. ie; judy, bomber, etc. The lack of the judy catridge makes this fork pogo and rebound much to fast for New England singletrack. There is no reason why anyone would have purchased this fork. The reason is because its performance deserves a price close to that of the indy model. Furthermore, if you upgraded the fork with a c3 cartridge, than you probably spent what a Judy costs. Most people would just purchase the judy the first time around! The botom line is the t2 fork is an overpriced indy. Upgrading it with the dampning cartridge increases the performance substantialy. This fork is a Judy with the cartridge installed. As such it performs well for my weight and ability. I am 185lbs and consider my self a highly skilled intermediate. I own one of these forks because it came stock on my stumpy. Lastly, I think my t2/judy performs better than my carbon crossling girvin. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
steve wojnarowicz
a downhiller
from england, norfolk
Date Reviewed: December 28, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
i bought this fork1 year ago. it seemed to be a good fork from the review.
80mm of travel seemed to be good on a single crown at the time. when i started to use the fork on some mild down hill the internals started to ware away and get very slopy. when i took the fork apart it was full of metal filings were the legs had worn away. i cleaned them up and used the them again. after a week of hard riding the fork leg had worn away completly and had cracked at the bottom of the sliders. i would not recomend this fork to anyone who wants to ride hard. i can only put one star rating because of the computer but if i had my way i would give it -3 | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
matthew allen
a downhiller
from england, norfolk
Date Reviewed: December 28, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
i bought my forks as oem on a kona.
They felt fine the first time i got on the bike and did so till late december when i started to notice some bearing slop.
I regularly graese them to keep them feeling smooth, but the first sign of mud and they become unpredictable and sticky.
Apart from that they are very good and well priced. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ben Sansbury
a racer
from USA
Date Reviewed: December 25, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have just bought the T2 and have no problem with it what so-ever, The people on the reviewsay that it is a bad fork and the travel is pretty abd, weel they are wrong. If you set it up right( LIKE THE ROCK SHOX MANUALY SAID) the shock would work fine. These peolpe that weigh 200+ pounds think that they can ride the fork, which is set up for prople 140-160 pounds, are out-of there-minds. They are crazy. If you need a fork, do light racing and do't want an Indy the t2 is best fork for the money. So you idiot's that never really took the time to read the manualy, this is the correct review. I'm going to give 4-stars because nothing is perfect. Plus, for the people that still do;t agree with me I've been a mechanic for 10 years and have won severly regional races with the T2. Therefore it is just another wonderful product made by Rock Shox. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
bololobo
a cross-country rider
from boston, ma
Date Reviewed: December 9, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I bought the T2 because of price point and size (not that many 1 steer tubes around anymore, and my silly bike has one!). For the tiny amount I paid it works great, good stiffness, no steering issues, nicely plush, and this is all stock.This fork makes me a much happier, well-adjusted rider. For $150 (yes, thats right) I double dare you to tell me there is a better fork I could get.My only complaint is the cheap knobs for adjusting the fork, but I know I'll eventually replace the guts and the knobs. For now, no significant complaints, will check back in 1000 miles. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
FAT & SLOW
a weekend warrior
from WEST HARTFORD, CT
Date Reviewed: December 2, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
JUST PICKED UP A LEFTOVER T2 . IBOUGHT THIS BECAUSE THE LEFTOVER SL OR XC WERE WAAAAAY MORE MONEY. AFTER CHECKING OUT ALL THE FORKS THE T2 MADE SENSE. MY FAVORITE FORK WAS A SL WITH AN ENGLUND UPGRADE, BUT IT WAS $200 MORE (ALL THE FORKS I LOOKED AT WER LEFTOVERS). NOW FOR UNDER $300.00 BUCKS I HAVE AN AWSOME FORK (THAT PRICE INCLUDES THE AIR CARTRIDGES). SPEED GOAT SOLD ME THE NEW 85mm KIT FOR $85.00 DELIVERED. TO EQUAL THIS SET UP I WOULD HAVE SPENT HUNDREDS MORE FOR ANY OTHER FORK. I RODE IT BEFORE THE UPGRADE AND IT WAS PRETTY GOOD ANYWAY. IF YOU'RE ON A BUDGET DON'T GET A MANITOU AS THEY ARE NOT READILY UPGRADABLE, A WHITE BROTHERS OR MARZOCCHI ARE GREAT BUT EXPENSIVE, GET A T2, LIVE WITH A WHILE THEN WHEN YOU HAVE SOME MONEY SAVED UP, UPGRADE! BESIDES IT'S WHAT YOU RIDE BUT HOW YOU RIDE IT THAT COUNTS. 4 CHILIS FOR PERFORMANCE vs MONEY STOCK, 5 CHILIS WITH THE UPGRADE! IM VERY HAPPY WITH THIS SET-UP. EVN IF IT'S NOT THE COOLEST FORK IN THE PARKING LOT, IT'S REALLY COOL ON THE TRAILS. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
mr cleean
a racer
from mountainless orlando fl
Date Reviewed: November 26, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
i'm a racer and mechanic for a bike shop, and have rebuilt my share of suspension forks. the internal design of the T2 is simple and poor(not uncommon for cheap suspension forks of any brand)as many other reviewers said the fork looses adjustability the minute it hits the trail, becase this fork was designed to have customers push down on the handlebars of the 700-1000 dollar bike there considering buying and say oooooh a judy,i'll take it(which works alot trust me, because what they are really thinking is none of my friends 300-550 dollar bikes have one and oooh boy i will be cool!!) in two when the customer comes back wanting to upgrade because the fork he thought would make his drule has became so bouncy doctors fear his eyes may fall out of his head, i say upgrade sure i've got just the thing(and no its not a dampining cartridge & springs for $150 which would put around $480 invested total in the shock)advertise it for sale on mtbr classifieds for $150 and when you have someone willing to buy it come in and i'll take it off so you can sell it and truly upgrade,,to a close out or used bomer(see used zokes are ok because they hardly ever fail unlike your rock shox) you can pick up closeout or used forks between 180-300 and with the$120-150 you got for your rock shox a cheap upgrade indeed. honestly i have seen dozens of sids blow out(three the first day) and countless judy cartridges(four of mine) blow while other racers rode on past me on there plusher,cheaper,more reliable brands i bet they were thinking ooooh rockshox he's cool.. if you have a T2 don't ride any less infact ride more going fast is probly 20% bike and 80%rider..ps its thanksgiving and in the time it took me to write this i could have been riding, i wasn,t counting am i at 50 words yet????????????????? see ya on the trail | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Will
a weekend warrior
from Queensland, Australia
Date Reviewed: November 22, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
My T2's came standard on my new Giant ATX870. This is my first bike and the T2's seem to be able to soak up just about everything I manage to put in their way. Not having tried any others to compare them too, I have to say that as they have not put me over the bars get they can't be two bad. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Geoff
a cross-country rider
from Vancouver, B.C.
Date Reviewed: November 21, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
This is a functional fork for people on a budget, even though the fork is a bit pricey for an undampened shock. I'm a superlightweight kid (120 lbs) who wants to start racing, but for some reason, my Judy T2 came with soft red MCUs. Can't complain about that.
Some things I do have to complain about are the travel and its quality. I own the long travel (80 mm) version, but I measured the travel to be only 62mm. Kinda makes me wonder how much the standard travel version has. The rebound is harsh and too fast (this is where rebound damping would be nice), and the fork tops out harder as the preload is cranked. The lack of rebound damping is a big negative if you like to do some trials and jumping. Another thing is that the lower legs are super flexy. I always feel like I'm going to snap the legs off when i hit the front brake.
The good thing is that it is upgradeable, and that Judy's got sexy thighs.
Too overpriced, no damping, upgradeable. 3 orange swirly things. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Marty Schriver
a weekend warrior
from Blackhawk
Date Reviewed: November 21, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
this fork rules!!! at first i thought it was way too bouncy but then i installed the c3 upgrade and it was even better. but then i installed englund total air cartriges and not only did it have a good ride, but was almost as light as the judy sl!!!!!!!!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
mig
a cross-country rider
from L.A. Calif.
Date Reviewed: November 2, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
The standard T2 is for a person 140-160lbs. If you weigh more than
that you should have gotten the appropriate spring set up . I wonder how many
200 pounders have given the T2 a bad review , not knowing this minor
detail, written clearly in the manual. Probably allot because readers don't usually misspell so many words
as seen in the reviews. Maybe not the greatest shock out there but it's not
being put on the top end bikes right!!I have had no problems with mine. I give
it 4 because nothing is perfect..
| | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
BRAD
a cross-country rider
from
Date Reviewed: October 30, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
tHESE SHOX RULE. THAT IS ALL THAT I CAN SAY. IF YOU KEEP THEM WELL MAINTAINED THEY ARE AWSOME. I RIDE IN MOSTLY MUDDY CONDITIONS ON THE NORTH SHORE AND THEY WORK GREAT. THEY ARE REALLY SMOOTH | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
noname
a downhiller
from austria
Date Reviewed: September 25, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I've dzjapped a t2 to put it on my schwinn moab2 and I'm very curious
to see how it's going to feel. I hope it's better as my indy xc.
if the t2 sucks, who cares? it was for free! by the way, what's best for dual slalom? sid or t2? O,potverjanduitjes, I still need a couple of words to reach the minimum wordrate for this review | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Larry
a weekend warrior
from Beech Grove, IN
Date Reviewed: September 24, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
This fork came stock on my FSR. First, I couldn't get my damn bike on my
Thule rack (granted, it's an older rack) Funny, I don't have this problem
with my Manitou. I rode the fork for 2 days. It sucked. I took it off
and traded it in on a Manitou Palmer. Now I have a fork that actually works.
Plus the lime green looks cool with the mango frame. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
sPlat
a cross-country rider
from omaha,NE
Date Reviewed: August 26, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Decent stock, but the upgrade is more than worth it. expc. if the shock came with your bike. Before the shock was tempermental on diffrent terain, it keep you guessing. After the upgrade bike seems much more in control and predictiable. Wt is 170 so not to heavy for the system. 3chil before upgrade, 5 after upgrade (even w/ month wait on part) | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Josh Jonte
a cross-country rider
from escondido CA
Date Reviewed: August 19, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Tis quite grand when you can get a shock that retails for $340 and spend only
(giggle...) $200 f***ing dollars!!! HA HA! otherwise, this is also a great fork to ride with, but i do have to agree with the people who say it's not worth a HIGH 340 dead presidents. (and yes, it is true i got it for $200. . .) >:\, you shoot your computer screen a dirty look . . . | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
paco
a cross-country rider
from the best damn trail ever
Date Reviewed: August 11, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
good fork mine came stock on the m2 stump w/ alloy steerer it is bouncey but this is only bothersome in xtreme circumstances down hill it is ridgid and ssteerint is great it wrks fine for my 130 lbs good all around i will prollyb get a new jusy in 98 though i hear they kick ass | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Trekker
a racer
from Hancock, MI
Date Reviewed: August 9, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I'd have to say,Atomic Bomb is missing the point of mountain bike front shocks. I think he's comparing them to dirt bike front shocks. I'd like to see him bolt on some shocks from a CR250 and pedal them up the nearest 800' elevation gain.
We pay a premium because of the low weight. I also know what dirt bike suspention rides like, but I don't happen to have 60 horsepower legs to take on the extra weight.I have a T2 which came with my '98 Trek 8000. I have 1500 hard off road miles on them. I had one problem with an oil leak on the right side. Rock Shox sent my dealer replacement internal components which are supposed to be better than what was shipped out on the T2 originally. The oil leak happened at about 100 miles. I have had no problems since.I aree that without the cartridge upgrade, they spring back fast. That's nice on fast washboard type hits, but it can get a bit pogo stick feeling on hops and hard uphill work. I'm hoping the cartridge upgrade will help, but I have not tried it yet. I'm giving them a rating of 4, because I like the shocks, and I think they perform great for their price range. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bike Man
a racer
from Bath Maine
Date Reviewed: August 7, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
At this time I have a Judy T2 on my 8000SL and for what it is worth it works fine I have had no eminent problems with the any part of the fork. Although I would like to recommend a C3 dampiner for any riders that are either racing or riding really muddy technical single track. The real beauty of the T2 is its it's upgrade ability's and it's low maintenance.I can see how some riders dislike the shock if they are more of downhill racers, because of it's quick rebound without a dampiner, but the T2 wasn't really meant for that purpose. If you use the fork for what it was made for( Fast fire roads and light cross country) the fork holds up very well. I can just think what it would feel like after a type3 custom tune kit. If you are really into XC raceing go and spend $600 dollars on a SID or if your cash flow isn't what it used to be gowith the XC Rock Shox.
Because of it's high market price I'll have to go with three out of five chilleson this fork. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Shad Phillips
a cross-country rider
from Dallas, Tx
Date Reviewed: July 31, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
This fork came with the bike I purchased. Compared with the Quad 5 I used to ride on this thing is a dream. However, compared to some other forks I have ridden on, this fork has left a little to be desired. It has plenty of travel and absorbs well, it just does'nt feel as stable as say the Judy XC. All in all not a bad fork, 3 chilis. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Freeza
a weekend warrior
from Sydney, Australia
Date Reviewed: July 8, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I don't have a pair of Judy's ive got some Indy's but my friend has them and i rode them they were so much better than mine the travel in them was amazing you would go of a rock and you wouldn't fell it land they are great. I will get a pair my self when I get the money. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Cain
a weekend warrior
from Sydney, Australia
Date Reviewed: July 7, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I've just been reading through the reviews for the 98 Judy T2 and I can't believe how much people are complaining about this fork. Why? Because I reckon that more than half the people who go on and on about upgrades and dampening and lateral flex etc are not interested in becoming better riders, just about being able to brag to their mates about how their bike has blah blah blah and why that makes them better than other riders( or to paraphrase another review to outperform other riders). I rode a crappy $500 (Aus) hardtail for a year or so before I got my FSR comp(which surprise, surprise came with T2's)and I'd love to have a dollar for every time I've been riding with guys who had the latest kevlar/carbon fibre bike with the best suspension and components, only to find that they didn't cut the gravy. My point is that if it's not going to make adifference to how good a rider you are(and lets face it most of you guys doing the complaining would get your arse kicked by a half decent rider on a fully rigid bike)stop whining. The T2 does the job. Don't forget to enjoy yourself, that's why you ride...remember?. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Pete
a cross-country rider
from Midland, ON, Canada
Date Reviewed: July 6, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I ride these shocks hard. I pound the hell out of them. I'm 6'3 and 200 lbs. and they haven't failed me yet. They came stock on my TREK 8000SL and I wouldn't have it any different. I had thought when I bought it, I would upgrade the shocks but after 600 miles of hard riding, they have just gotten better. They are easy to maintain, and very comfortable. I read all this stuff people are saying about them being bouncy, and I have found that this is only the case in some (extreme) circumstances. Of course they're gonna be bouncy on a washboard dirt road!!!! What shocks out there wouldn't be. I'll give them five of those little firey thingys | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Stephen
a cross-country rider
from Colorado
Date Reviewed: July 4, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
The people that are putting this fork down are over analyzing it. If you are a racer then it is not for you. However, its overall performance is superb. Dependable, fairly light, respnsive, and easily upgradable. The steering is another great thing about the Judy T2.I reccomend one for all weekend warriors. Great piece of equipment! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bert
a weekend warrior
from Alabama
Date Reviewed: July 1, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Somewhere along the way some people have gotten confused about where the T2 fit in the scheme of things. I think its great that you can buy a bike with a T2, (inside same as indy) and later spend $59 and make it a full blown type 3 JUDY XC. Would you rather they put a indy on it. You would then have little option of upgrades without purchasing a new fork. It's great that rock shox designed the T2 as they did. The T2 does perform like a indy fork, with less flex. But thats what it was designed to do. I have upgraded mine to type 3 and it works great, after all its now a JUDY XC. But even before the upgrade it performed better than your average indy fork.
Come on now guys lets keep the T2 in perspective, it was never intended to be a JUDY XC fork. But its great to be able to make it one for so little cost.
I give it 5 flaming ones, great job by rock shox on this truly UPGRADABLE fork. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave
a weekend warrior
from Detroit
Date Reviewed: June 17, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I posted earlier about how much I hated my Judy T2. I also asked if anyone knew how to upgrade it. Since then, I've recieved a number of emails asking if I figured out how to upgrade it. Here's what I ended up doing:
I'm not sure if they still have them, but I bought a '97 Manitou FS Ti Stroker
from www.supergo.com for $200, and then sold my Judy T2 for $100, making the
whole cost of the upgrage only $100. (I probably would've spent over $100 to
upgrade the T2, by buying Englund Air Cartridges (about $90) and speed springs
(about $35). Plus no matter what kind of springs/dampners you put in the T2,
it will still have that wobbly feel (lateral slop).
The manitou FS Ti stroker is an awesome deal. That fork cost around $550 last
year, and the '98s cost about $600 I think. It's a closeout deal, so buy one
_now_ if you can.
Rating for Judy T2: 0 chilis
Rating for '97 Manitou FS Ti Stroker: 5 chilis
Rating for price of '97 Manitou FS Ti Stroker: 10 chilisROCKSHOX SUX! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
MJS
a weekend warrior
from WOODLAND HILLS, CA.
Date Reviewed: June 15, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I JUST PURCHASED A NEW BIKE WITH THE T2 ON IT. LOOKS LIKE A JUDY BUT PERFORMS
LIKE AN INDY. YOU'D THINK WITH A SUGGESTED RETAIL OF ROUGHLY $339 THAT IT WOULD
PERFORM BETTER. I'M DISAPPOINTED TO SAY THE LEAST. I LOVE RIDING BUMPY, TECHNICAL,
TRICKY SINGLETRACK BUT WITH THIS FORK IT'S NOT THAT ENJOYABLE. EITHER I SPEND 80
OR SO DOLLARS ON AN UPGRADE OR I BUY A WHOLE NEW FORK. CAN'T REALLY AFFORD EITHER
OPTION BUT WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO.....STOP RIDING....I DON'T THINK SO. ROCK SHOCKS
BETTER GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER OR START LOSING OLD CUSTOMERS AND NEW ONES WHO CATCH
ON TO WHAT'S HAPPENING.
MONEY TO EITHER BUT I'M NOT ABOUT TO STOP RIDING........THANKS FOR NOTHING ROCK | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Glen
a cross-country rider
from Trevor wisconsin
Date Reviewed: June 11, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
T2,Schwinn Moab2 al,180lbs,aprox 1hr.daily longer on weekends,very agresive rider.
Owned 6mo.and havent had 1 problem just lossened up a little at first but now very nice. Keep oiled well!!! Maybe iI am the lucky one but iI would recomend this setup to anyone under 190 lbs. If over 190 buy the upgrade. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Funfrock
a cross-country rider
from Canada, Edmonton
Date Reviewed: June 11, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Every one says how bad this shock is, there are two types of T2 shocks out there. The 80 mm Travel and the 60 mm travel. Which ones are you people talking about. I have the 80 mm version and personally its not a bad shock. Does not reqire to much maintance, it does its job. And if you want better its easily upgradable to a JUDY XC. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nick (Metz) Orgera
a racer
from Canada
Date Reviewed: June 9, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Well I have had the Rock Shox Judy T2 and I think that they are the best shox that I have ever used. I am thinking that I am going to stay with this shox. It gives you maxium absorbtion and I recommend it to any racer that is interested in buying the Rock Shox Judy T2. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John Cohen
a weekend warrior
from Columbus,Ohio
Date Reviewed: June 8, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
This fork came stock on my Moab 2.Its in the shop now getting the XC upgrade kit and I hope its worth it.I'm upgrading because the fork is unerving going over a lot of bumps at high speeds.I also weigh 190 and ride hard and need something more stable.PLus, I want to outperform the guys I ride with and not have to worry about a boucy fork. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jon Lloyd
a racer
from Western Australia
Date Reviewed: June 8, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have read the majority of reviews on this page and agree with most except those that say the fork is 'brilliant', 'fantastic' or other gushing remark! I'm new to racing and MTB in fact so I'm coming to grips with the bullshit basically. I have these forks on my Giant ATX870 and they suffer from 'stiction' at any setting. When I get the bucks together I will fit an upgrade cartridge as has been advised by those 'in the know'. I'll reserve any further judgement till then. Otherwise they are an average fork for an average rider. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Neil
a weekend warrior
from Manitoba, Canada
Date Reviewed: June 3, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Judy T2 is the stock fork on my 98 Kona Caldera.
As I'm reading through many of the T2's reviews, I realized that I'm not the only one experiencing a bouncy effect on the fork. Upon purchase of the bike, the fork seemed fairly stiff when adjusted properly but as I broke it in, the adjustment knobs don't even make a difference anymore. I was told from several sources that it's normal since the fork has no dampening. My only concern - If the fork was designed to be adjusted, why does it deteriorate in such little time???
What would be the most effective way to upgrade this fork? Which kit would make the most difference keeping in mind reasonable costs? Let me know!!!
Overall, no complaints with the fork but the bouncy squishy feeling needs to be looked into to make this fork well worth it's money. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Daniel
a cross-country rider
from charlottesville, Va
Date Reviewed: June 2, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Oh boy, a judy T2! I have a '98 Gary Fisher Joshua X0 that came stock with a Judy T2. I was originally excited about the potential of this fork. However, after 1 ride I knew something was amiss. I took the fork apart. To stay away from the technical stuff, the damn thing was put together plain old wrong. Pieces were missing, and the pieces that made it into the fork were in the wrong places. Needless to say, i am no longer excited about this fork or it's potential. Now that i have reassembled the fork correctly, with the new parts, everything should be fine, right?, no. There is a large amount of play in the fork between the stanchions and the outer legs. Why did this Pseudo-Judy come on my extremely expensive mountain bike anyway. The guy at RS didn't have anything to say, what could he say. Nevertheless, i give credit to RS for the marketing strategy. An inexpensive fork that upgrades to a Judy relatively easily is a good idea, but i think that quality control at RS has some real problems, nothing new. rock and roll. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tim
a weekend warrior
from Houston
Date Reviewed: June 1, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
This shock seemed great at first on my 98 Schwinn Moad 2 cro-mo, until my third ride out...The Left Shaft Bolt fell out and drained all the lube out of the shaft area. Of course I get that has never happened. I am just glad that in my shopping for a bike I picked a good shop...the West U Schwinn on Rice Blvd. The tech. on the rock shock 800 # simply repeated himself until I just said 'thanks man.' I am posting this to see if other bikers have this experience. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Paul
a cross-country rider
from UK
Date Reviewed: May 23, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Does its job, is easy to maintain, but pogo's too much. Too expensive retail, but I suspect it is a good way for a munufacturer to keep price low on a stock bike.use IMHO:
Allowing stock bikes with good frames to come with suspension at a low price. Good market positioning but don't buy standalone.
| | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Janne
a cross-country rider
from Finland
Date Reviewed: May 19, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I got the 80mm version and it's a million times better than the rigid 60something mm versh. Looking for a damping though. (Bloody 50 words Bloody 50 words Bloody 50 words Bloody 50 words Bloody 50 words Bloody 50 words Bloody 50 words Bloody 50 words Bloody 50 words Bloody 50 words | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jake Meoff
a weekend warrior
from Reno Nevada USA
Date Reviewed: May 14, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
The Judy T2 fork simply has a RS Indy gut inside a Judy body. Rock Shox simply did this because it is easy to get into the Judy line of shoxs. Priceing could use some work but once you have it you can upgrade to the Type two spring and C3 cartridge. Once you have upgrade the T2, it proforms like the Judy XC.
With the original type 2 spring system the Judy T2 proform uncontrolable and could not follow it path. Techanal trails are very nerve racking because the type 2 spring would be stiff to throw you off track.
With the upgrade to the Type 3 C3 cartridge the Judy line proform like deep plushness (for about $50 - $80). Handeling is improved and its ability to stay in line and follow the path with good dampening proformence. The Type 3 system also has a external adjustment that balances high speed rebound and low speed compression with a single knob.
Overall rating profomence for the Type two fork before upgrade would have to be 2 hot ones, but for the flexability to be able to upgrade affordabley into The Judy line would be 5 big hot ones. | | Overall Rating: |
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