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Submitted by
Q
a Cross Country Rider
from Northern Virginia
Date Reviewed: October 13, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$300.00 | | Purchased At: | Cambria | | Strengths: | Light, reliable | | Weaknesses: | Noticeable flex, less noticeable damper, plastic hardware | | Similar Products Used: | Rock Shox Indys | | Bike Setup: | hardtail | | Bottom Line: | Good low travel (63mm) fork for XC hardtails, with few reliability issues in terms of frequency of maintenance, or lack thereof... When I first got my SLs I installed Speed Springs, so it felt soft and smooth overall, especially compared to when I went back to the stock parts (I had gained weight). The elastomers are ok, but definitely not the natural feel of coiled springs.
I really wished they had designed it with more metal hardware -- aluminum, stainless steel, titanium, anything instead of plastic! The low profile, plastic top cap design just plain sucked. I don't know who came up with it, but what works as a water bottle does not work as a bolt. They are like butter to tools and can easily lose threads on reinstallation. Anyway, it never effected ride (no top cap liftoff), but still an issue when it came time for upkeep. The dampability is not really that noticeable, and the bright yellow paintjob is not everyone's idea of attractive or even tolerable, but neither ever actually hurt performance.
Despite its flaws it has lasted for years. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dmitry
a Cross Country Rider
from San Francisco
Date Reviewed: March 22, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$300.00 | | Purchased At: | JensenUSA | | Strengths: | Reliable, resilient fork. Simply bomb proof. | | Weaknesses: | None | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | Merlin frame, spinergy spox, xtr moving parts, raceface cranks. | | Bottom Line: | I got this fork 10 years ago. I raced on it for a couple of years, commuted to work, went on countless mountain and road trips and ... forgot about cleaning it. I think I opened it once or twice to apply judy butter for lubrication, that's it. It feels great, I still do like to take it through rough trails and it handles as good as new. I can't believe this fork still functions. I am waiting for something wrong to happen so I can get a new fork, but it doesn't look like it shows any kind of weakness. If you get it - your are stuck with it for a while. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jay
a
from Oahu
Date Reviewed: June 24, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | Still alive 7 years later! | | Weaknesses: | Could be alot plusher but overall no big weakness. | | Bike Setup: | Litespeed Obed | | Bottom Line: | The fact that this shock is still functioning like the day I bought it say it all. All the new technology is discouraging when a $600 fork blows out after 6 months. I want parts that I can put on and forget about...The 97 Judy has been old faithful. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Panayot Nakov
a Weekend Warrior
from Sofia,Bulgaria
Date Reviewed: July 9, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Bay Krustio, Vitosha | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$200.00 | | Purchased At: | Second Hand | | Strengths: | Durable as HELL; Plush; Veeery light; | | Weaknesses: | Flex(kind of remedied with a better hub)
Damn damping is not too tuneable. | | Similar Products Used: | Suntour-used; Tested alot of stuff(almost everything that's worth it) | | Bike Setup: | Peugeot ALU hardtail, Judy SL97, Crappy Shimano drivetain, Nokian Gazzaloddi front tire(2.3)-helps the Judy a lot;) | | Bottom Line: | A very very tough fork. So far I did 3 head on, full speed hard impacts with it - all of them to complete stop. The fork hasn't moved a bit(although, that didn't save my forehead from being slammed into a truck, with the first headon crash:))! The crown does some funny creaking noise that bothers me. There is flex - not lots, but easily noticeable, but hey, at 1.2kg this fork is as solid as should be expected for such a lightweight thing! The springs are replaced so now it has 100mm springs and 50mm MCU instead of 100mm MCU and 50mm springs, but the current springs are too soft for me, I'm a heavy guy(85kg).
For me, this for is a dream for XC racing - it's light, and moreover, it's dependable. My advice: if you ride XC buy one if you can - you wont regret it!!! Hopefully i'll run a Psylo soon, but i'll never sell my Judy.
Bottom line - excellent XC, but has stood pretty well to my numerous DH abuses!!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Greg Weflen
a Downhiller
from Calgary, Alberta
Date Reviewed: October 27, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Vedder Mtn., B.C. | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | Brad's Cycle, Chilliwack, B.C. | | Strengths: | Weight, looks, seviceability | | Weaknesses: | Wearability, tuneability | | Bike Setup: | GT Pantera hard tail, XTRC, and so on... | | Bottom Line: | The shock is basicaly O.K. for XC type riding, but once you get onto some rough downhill stuff WATCH OUT! They flex (even when new) and control can be an issue if it is cold out. The bushings wear out fast! You have got to be into maintainance to keep these shocks healthy. Overall, though, a pretty good set-up on my bike. I use it on all sorts of terrain and it has not exploded or anything like other reviewers claim, perhaps they don't use elbows once they have front suspension!! Three flamers (no more, no less) This shock came on the bike when I bought it, but I don't think that I would buy it aftermarket (way too $$$) Go with one like a Bomber for the price. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
MathewZZZ
a Cross Country Rider
from CA
Date Reviewed: April 24, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Nice looking, I bought it @ cheap price | | Weaknesses: | After 2 years it beant around like a noodle. Way to much flex. | | Bottom Line: | Nice fork for about 2 years. By that time start thinking of another fork. Realy nice looking but not worth the flex at all. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Neven Vulich
a Racer
from Croatia
Date Reviewed: March 22, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | downhill | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Plush.
Travel.
Weight (1.3 kg) | | Weaknesses: | Flex. | | Similar Products Used: | lots of RST-s
RockShox SID
and a lot more | | Bike Setup: | KHS Alite 4000 XT-XTR | | Bottom Line: | Very good fork for racing, lightweight and veeeeeery good
for dropoffs and stuff. And I got it very cheap ... | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
sockBoy
a Weekend Warrior
from tn
Date Reviewed: March 3, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | yip yo | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Good performance if upgraded. 97 have flaws that work in your benefit. | | Weaknesses: | sucks out of Box, stock cartridge is very weak. | | Similar Products Used: | ATTENTION ALL 97 JUDY SL OWNERS, there is a design flaw in the 97 one piece slider assembly. Mine broke and RS sent me a NEW 98 set with disk tabs and NEW SEALS BOOTS, WIPERS, AND BUSHINGS FOR FREE!!!! | | Bottom Line: | ATTENTION ALL 97 JUDY SL OWNERS, there is a design flaw in the 97 one piece slider assembly. Mine broke and RS sent me a NEW 98 set with disk tabs and NEW SEALS, CART. , BOOTS, WIPERS, AND BUSHINGS FOR FREE!!!! thats customer service.There was an agreement to replace all broken 97 assemblies in order to avoid suit, best of all it took less then a WEEK!!! for RS, usual turnaround is a month or more. So basically I got a new fork for free. So, I suggest that all of you who have a 97 on piecer to ride the hell outta them to break the arch in ANY way shape or fashion, and trade that puppy (free of charge) for a practically brand new fork. I use speedseals, hydracoil springs,and 80mm carts with plenty of slick honey ....MAN what a sweet fork!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bay
a Weekend Warrior
from Bothell, WA
Date Reviewed: November 2, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
St Edwards | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
Light wt., many upgrade parts | | Weaknesses: |
Poor seals, poor qualitiy anodizing, fast wear, too much maintenance, poor shock damping, blew the preload adjuster, MCU & spring??? 1) The seals do not seat tightly; allowing water to enter the fork.2) Water and mud in the fork cause rapid wear of the anodizing on the stantions.3) The worn stantions present too much forward and backward play. This can be hairy when you try to rip a curved berm.4) Beacause of the poor seal the maintenance become an issue you cannot ignore. Rebuilds and cleaning after every other ride. I didn't buy a fork to nurse it. I bought the fork to ride.5) The shock needs some help. I can never find enough damping. Where are you my little shock?6) The plastic sping perch in the preload adjuster snapped after a big hit. I needed to upgrade to the Rockshox Al preload.7) I could never adjust the MCU and spring combination. I never felt right. I replaced it with single steel springs. | | Similar Products Used: |
Rockshox XL, XC, White Brother SC90, Manitou SXR, Marzocchi Z2 | | Bike Setup: |
Kona King Kikapu, Fox Amp 5R rear shock | | Bottom Line: | I am 5'-11, 210 lbs and I would not recommend this fork to anyone my size. If you're 200 lbs and ride hard; look some place other than a light wt Rockshox SL. It's too wimpy and too much work for a tiny performance. It wore out too quickly and required maintenance after every other ride!!! I have finally determined the shock have so much clearance; I can use 30 wt synth. oil and get the best performance damping. It's never felt better! Forget the 5-10 wt oil, the seals never worked and will allow water to mix. This give you nothing but grief and stickly fork performance. I'm using 80 wt synth. gear oil in the stantions. This stuff will keep on performing under water. I figured I have 0.015 wear in the bushing and stantion; this is more than enough clearance for 80 wt synth. oil. With the oil performing, the fork never felt smoother. (Note: I do not recommend these modifications for the new or tight fitted forks.) I also use a liberal coating of England bee hive grease. The upper seals to the bushings are packed with this grease. The preload adjuster broke after a big hit. I had to replace these with the Al preload adjuster. I changed the MCU sping combination to just a single spring. I get more progressive action from the fork and better low speed bump and high speed drop-in preformance. This is just too much work to tune the darn thing for such small performance gains. I've got it working but it's not going to last. The way the seals perform and the wear I see on the stantions; the performance modifications I have make, will fade quickly. I do not recommend this fork. I've ordered a new Marzocchi Z2. I saw a Marzocchi fork being dissassembled. The oil in the fork still looked like oil. The Rockshox oil look like mud and metal filings. I think Rockshox need to improve the plating, anodizing, seals and make the stantions thicker. I know this will defeat the purpose of light wt. ...but it will improve the reliability. ...and it will be a different fork.I have two other rockshox on my bikes. The XL have suffered shock disfunction and required some tuning by the bike shop to fit my riding. The XC is on my wifes bike and it seems to work, OK. My wife is 5'-3 and 110 lbs on a good day. She's not going to strain the equipment. Rockshox, if you're reading this; please build a light wt. higher reliability shock for the heavier stronger riders. I don't need a sub-3 lbs fork that don't perform and require a lot of maintenance. I wouldn't mind a 3-1/4 lbs fork that performs, with less maintenance and higher reliability. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
chris
a Racer
from corvallis, OR
Date Reviewed: October 22, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
Light | | Weaknesses: |
Durability | | Similar Products Used: |
PACE RC-36, Manitou SXR & SX, Y2K Judy SL, Marzocchi bombers, | | Bike Setup: |
Judy SL with Englund Air Cartridge kit | | Bottom Line: | These forks, with the Englund air cartridges, are pretty good. They weigh less than 3 lb, and feel great - nice n active. BUT the fork has a flaw, and that is in the durability % seals. They were fine for a couple of months, then all hell breaks loose! The seals let in a bit of water, wear away the bushing, then lets in more water as the legs rock forwards and backwards. Got new seals (took over 3 months to get some), and new bushings (same time). All nice and new on first ride. After two weeks of riding, the bushings are shot again. God only knows what will happen when the rain starts. As standard, these forks should be shot. But with the upgrade, they become reasonable if you just use them for racing (ie don't ride them too often - they can't handle it. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Blake S.
a Racer
from Fayetteville, AR
Date Reviewed: October 22, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
Plush
Lots of travel
Lite | | Weaknesses: |
Flexes a little | | Similar Products Used: |
Monitou Ti | | Bottom Line: | This is almost perfect racing fork. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
AZBiker
a Weekend Warrior
from Pinetop, AZ
Date Reviewed: October 19, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Los Burros | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Strengths: |
This shock is a typical RockShox product - really OK. Not great, but OK. I had the 80mm Long Travel version and it worked pretty good for the two years I had it. | | Weaknesses: |
Those plastic caps that hold the elastomer-spring stacks are high-speed projectiles if you come down too fast and too hard. Actually drew blood when it hit my face. RockShox said never heard of that before - BS. I've talked to several who had the same experience. The cartridge held up for two years (!), not like my '95 XC which went through four until I replace them with a Risse Gem / Speed Springs combo. When the cartridge gave up the ghost, it did with a BANG - litteraly. Blew apart spewing oil like a whale clearing its blow hole. Pretty cool, actually. | | Similar Products Used: |
RockShox XC, RockShox XL, Marzocchi Z2 BAM. | | Bike Setup: |
Y-50 with a Stratos Pro rear shock w/lockout. | | Bottom Line: | Again, this shock is OK. Not great, not bad (compared to some), just OK. Two years under my lard butt and only two major failures (top cap projectile and cartridge explosion). | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jeremy Littleton
a Cross-Country Rider
from Raleigh, NC
Date Reviewed: September 8, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
iron mountain trails | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
Lightweight, appearance, stability | | Weaknesses: |
none just yet | | Similar Products Used: |
Indy XC's, Indy C's, Marzocchi Z2 Bam, Juxy XC's | | Bike Setup: |
98 Trek 7000 | | Bottom Line: | These shocks are unbelievable!! They work perfect for my style of riding, not too plush yet still well enough equipped to handle anything on the trail. I got a great deal on them too, only $200!! I strongly recommend these shocks to anyone who needs a lightweight, durable fork. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
alex
a Weekend Warrior
from New York
Date Reviewed: July 20, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Strengths: |
light | | Weaknesses: |
it is weak, it bottoms out easily, the cartidge blows like nothing. I don't like it in any way. It doesn't suit my style of riding | | Bike Setup: |
specialized stumpjumper 16.5.
Judy SL | | Bottom Line: | I don't suggest this product. RockShock ripped off its customers, for a shitty fork. My friend cracked his, which shows it weakness. I cracked the cartredge within the first month. I feel the '96 was a better fork. I am going to switch to a marzzochi | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Lee Norton
a Racer
from St. Catharines, Ontario
Date Reviewed: July 19, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
light weight, but not 2.65 lbs more like 3 lbs | | Weaknesses: |
Flexy
Type II internals don't work as well as other designs.
Damper has history of blowing up - leaking | | Similar Products Used: |
Amp Fork F3C
Rock Shox Mag 21 | | Bike Setup: |
Norco Torrent hardtail
XT with Cane Creek wheelset | | Bottom Line: | The fork is light at about 3 lbs. The Type II spring system was good for the mid 90's, but has now been surpassed by numerous other manufacturers. The Rock Shox damper has a deserved history as being unreliable. It's range of damping is also minimal. The fork is stiff enough for uphill and level ground riding for most people. If you start riding at higher speeds such as when the trail points downward, stiffening the fork will pay bid dividends. Stiffness is a problem with a lot of forks leading the way to oversize hubs/axles, triple clamp designs, etc. A brake booster can also help stiffen the fork.I would only recommend this fork if purchased at a discount by someone willing to do the following:Throw away the stock internals and replace with either springs and something like the White Brothers damping cartridge, or with an Englund Air kit, which if you want to keep the weight down, is recommended. (See my review under Englund Air Kits.) With the Englund kit and Judy SL you will have a good sub 3 lb fork that you will be able to tune (independent compression, rebound and spring settings), rebuild, and repair yourself without special tools.Install a good stiff carbon fiber brake booster as this will also add torsional stiffness to the fork. I made my own from ¼ aluminum plate as most models in the market are not designed for torsional or twisting motion. Mine weighs 70 grams, a bit more than the 50-55 gram norm, but is twice as stiff in torsion. Braking is also improved, although that is of secondary consequence as V-brakes are so good to begin with.If you keep the rubber boots on, remember to lift and clean underneath as part of your post ride bike cleaning. I also throw on a bit of Tri-Flow while I'm at it. If you replace the boots with a fork wiper, lift the wiper, clean and re-grease under as a regular part of your bike cleaning.With a little work, this is a good fork for the money as they can be purchased relatively cheaply. If you are paying full price, there are better models on the market.3/5 due to light weight and potential.
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Submitted by
chris
a Racer
from stroud,england
Date Reviewed: July 9, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
randwick downhill and crosscountry track | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
nice colour,soaks up all big bumps | | Weaknesses: |
does not soak up small bumps | | Similar Products Used: |
manitou sx ti | | Bike Setup: |
GT Zaskar | | Bottom Line: | overall this is a good bike but when you buy a £1500 bike you exspect somthig better. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Greg
a Racer
from Richmond, VA
Date Reviewed: July 2, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Poor Farm Park, Ashland, VA | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Strengths: |
Very adjustable, pretty light, funky yellow color which chicks dig, low maintenance, sensitive to the small stuff while handling the big stuff well. | | Weaknesses: |
Sort of pricey which doesn't bother me. You get what you pay for and these rock. I sometimes get a slight sqweaking sound which should go away with some Judy Butter lube stuff. | | Similar Products Used: |
Girvin pro-flex (weird-ass fork) with no damper for a bouncy ride. What fun! | | Bike Setup: |
GT Team LTS, Full XTR standard, Continental Comp Pro 2 rear, Michelin Green something. (It's French so who cares?!) | | Bottom Line: | Nice industry standard shock, medium price, cool color, reliable, low maintenance, (relatively). 2 years and counting. (SID in my future?) | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jim
a Weekend Warrior
from Greensboro, NC
Date Reviewed: May 11, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Bottom Line: | You guys don't know what you are on about, my Judys have lasted well and retain stiffness, cushioning and all that without any problems. Overall this is definitely a great shock. Maybe a bit expensive but hey, worth it. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Brad
a Cross-Country Rider
from NC
Date Reviewed: May 1, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
crack o' yo mama's ass | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Strengths: |
Light for what it is | | Weaknesses: |
Heavy compared to an Indy (and rides just like it after blown cartridges) | | Similar Products Used: |
Manitou EFC | | Bike Setup: |
Y-50 | | Bottom Line: | This fork sucks. Real bad sucks. I can't express it in words. Every time I think about it I want to blow chunks (like every new cartridge does). I think I'm on my 5th or 6th cartridge, but they're not worth the trouble of putting in so fu-k it. The nickel plating is gone on the stanchions and the fork rocks back and forth like a 13 year old girl at a N-Sync show.LAME. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chung Leong
a Weekend Warrior
from Singapore
Date Reviewed: May 1, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Bukit Timah Nature Reserve | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
Lack of serious weight.
Smooth stroke.
Good looks (matches my bike!) | | Weaknesses: |
Flex.
Not enough rebound damping range.
No compression adjustment?
Easily scratched leg panel decals.
Fork boots | | Similar Products Used: |
1996 Judy XC
1998 Judy SL
Test rides on Manitous, Marzocchis, RSTs. | | Bike Setup: |
'97 Rocky Mountain Element Race | | Bottom Line: | Mine's the short travel 65mm version but it works so smooth it feels like its got more and hasn't bottomed out on me yet. I'm 120lbs. Damping control is there, but doesn't quite have the range like Marzocchis, from ultra springy to sticky slow. However the damping adjustment I have works well for my weight, so that isn't a big problem. It's significantly lighter than Marzocchis too. I used to have Speed Springs in this fork, but recently converted back. Type II springs are better for my weight, and seem to provide that smoother stroke. Probably the springs were scratching inside the fork leg. And the fork boots are good for keeping out dust but not water and mud. After a particularly muddy ride I had to strip the fork to pour water out of the bottom of the fork legs. 5 stars because the problems are relatively minor and the strengths are what I value most. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
ed
a Cross-Country Rider
from Novi, MI
Date Reviewed: April 19, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
low maintenance
light
easy to tune | | Weaknesses: |
flexes a lot
not very plush
limited dampening adjustment | | Similar Products Used: |
Manitou Palmer fs ti
RS Indy S
RS quad 5
RS quad 21 R | | Bike Setup: |
Schwinn-custom | | Bottom Line: | Okay, I have lots of things to say about this fork. First, some history-- I bought this fork used off of this site last summer for 200 bones. It is the long travel version. The first thing I noticed was that I was much faster and in more control over technical sections. It also lightened my bike considerably. Please note that the weight listed above is WAY off. I think the fork weighs more around 3 lbs but I know its not as light as 2.65. Anyway, a week after I bought it I tried a log crossing and got about 3/4 up it and stalled. As I started to roll back, my wheel turned and got wedged between two logs. As I continued to roll back the fork twisted until Crack, my arch snapped. I was pissed off to say the least. I called rockshox to get a price on new lowers and to my suprise, they told me they would replce it under warranty!! Even though the shock was over two years old and I was not the original owner, they still did--and I didn't even have to ask, they offered!! Better yet, the sent the 1998 lowers which included the disk mounts ( I have since then found out that there was a design flaw in the 1997 lowers and RS was just covering their ass--probably to avoid future law suits). Nevertheless, RS customer service saved me a considerable amount of money and agony. Now.. the fork. It is not as plush as others out there- but it is also lighter and MUCH easier to maintain. If anyone has ever rebuilt a marzocchi or even some Manitous they will probably back me on my claim that the Judy is the simplest of the high-end race forks. The thing tears down as easy as a baseline model, in fact, easier. I have heard of problems with the cartridges blowing. I weigh 240 lbs and have never had a problem. But I did have the carftridge rebuilt for $15.00 just to be safe. I have also added speed springs to my fork. They add weight and honestly, don't feel much different than the stock MCUs but I needed stiffer springs and they cost the same so I went for it. Flex... oh you better believe it. This fork flexes a lot. BUT, if you want a light, long travel fork, you better expect it. Not to mention that if you are in the market for a race fork you better have enough finesse on your bike to deal with the flex, otherwise you have no business buying such a fork. The only thing I really dont like is the minimal adjustment you have over dampening. The adjuster screw seems to make little difference whether it is turned all the way in either direction. But, I have it set up right and it works great now. If you can find one for cheap, go for it-- it is probably better than anything you have already and you won't need to worry about maintenance as much as other comparable shocks. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Karl
a Weekend Warrior
from WI
Date Reviewed: April 8, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
light, stiff, strong and plush | | Weaknesses: |
NONE so far | | Similar Products Used: |
Tested Manitous, zokes, RST, nothing came close | | Bike Setup: |
Cannondale M400 with LOTs of upgrades | | Bottom Line: | Whats up with all the bad reviews? These things Kick! Great feel, great stiffness and strength, And nw you can get NEW 97's for $199! great fork, great value, the best I ever tried. This is the way to go. Forget those who give these bad reviews, These shocks Rule! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dan
a weekend warrior
from Norwich, UK
Date Reviewed: February 10, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
This fork is simply the pants!!!!!! Not only is it amazingly light, but it also has good plush travel at a reasonable price. I'm an urban street/trials rider and I like to hit the local jumps. I've given the fork a lot of stress and it still hasn't broken!!!!!!!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
mike brown
a racer
from san francisco
Date Reviewed: January 29, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
first of all, i must state with a high degree of enthusiasm that the judy xc experience has been a nightmare for me. why i allowed a friend to give me his old one with worn out bushings after he defected to the marzocchi camp i don't know (spare parts, perhaps?) but hey, i'm not crying about getting bike stuff for free. my judy sl? i purchased it used, i must admit from a friend who had put less than five hundred miles on it. he got a SID. i wish that i could afford a SID. i've had it just over a month now and it seems to perform reasonably well, more or less like a judy xc just with a little less weight. i wish that the rebound WAS a bit slower and i wish that the fork had a bit plusher of a feel to it but hey, for a hundred gungas i'm not going to complain too much. i'm just dead-set against buying any rock shox product ever again for any reason and as soon as i kill this rock shox fork, i'm buying a manitou. a word from the wise and experienced--disassemble a clean your judy frequently. even though it WILL die a screaming horrible death from either (repeated) cartridge failure, bushing wear or stanchion tube grinding(?), your judy WILL cost you in lost sleep and dreadful visualizations. i know. i've been there and am stupid enough to sleep with judy again!!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Charles
a cross-country rider
from Pasadena,Ca
Date Reviewed: January 5, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
I used the 1997 Judy SL Long travel for one and a half years. For being a top of the line fork, it's performance is pretty adequate for a OEM fork. However, the sad part is, for the price and performance it is a lousy choice of a fork. Case in point? When I had to downgrade to a fsr comp 1998 w/ judy t2, I could not tell the difference in performance. Keep in mind, one has a dampening system and one does not. Oh well......thumbs down to ROckshox. too much hype..lousy bottom line. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Hillman
a racer
from Texas
Date Reviewed: December 12, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I upgraded to the Judy SL before the fall racing season. Used to have a Indy XC. The Judy is much lighter and has rebound control which the Indy does not have. For me this shock has worked great. It did develop a little bit of a squeek, but a little maintenance with slick honey and this shock stays sweet and comfy. I think that those who do not like this shock are just buying the wrong shock for their application. This is not a maintenance free super plush shock. It was designed for racing. Much like the SID. The SID requires even more maintenance/tuning. Right now the Judy SL can be had for under $300. At this price, it is a fantastic value. There just is no comparison to anything else that is under 3 pounds. If you're a recreational rider who just wants to pound on your bike and then put her up wet...than don't buy a Judy SL. If you're a budget racer looking to save weight and money, while still maintaining good front end performance...get a Judy SL. For me the beautiful yellow thang gets five piles. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Will
a cross-country rider
from USA
Date Reviewed: December 11, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I had a Judy SL w/the 80 kit. I hated it, so I put the progressive mid weight speed springs in it and it was a little better. There was not nearly enogh fork here! I bottemed it out repeatidly.....even w/the damp and preload all the way up. Just got a new bike with a Manitou SX Ti....Love it much better than this pice of %&$#! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dickfor
a weekend warrior
from Ut
Date Reviewed: December 1, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I like the shock a lot it is fun and has a good feel. I think that is should be rated amongst the highest in its class. If you don't agree with me you can go take a pee. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Hyper X
a cross-country rider
from Hawaii
Date Reviewed: November 13, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
To begin with, I'm not a all-out crosser, downhiller or terrain thrasher... I'm just a guy who likes to ride trails and stay educated and updated regarding news and product reviews.
I've had my 97 Judy SL 63mm for about 3 years now, and I must say, I bought it based on rider testimonies and magazine reviews when it was compared to the Manitou SX-Ti.
When I got it, I noticed that the Judy was made one-piece and the dropouts were noticeably beefier than the Manitou SX-Ti. It was lighter, has less travel, and costed more. I tested it out my turning it upside down on the steerer tube and compared it to the SX-Ti and noticed that the Judy had a stiffer feel. The local bike mechanic (a guru in my opinion) just notified me that I was making a wise choice because he informed me of a bad design flaw in the '96 Judy SL cartridges (basically blowing up), and the new cartridge was a great improvement with no one coming in to repair them.
Now, the good stuff. The Judy looked cool with that black sticker, and the red dampening knob did a good job when I landed off larger drops. (I couldn't notice it until I landed drops from the curb.) It was very easy to service the fork... cleaning the crown and the stanchions was quite easy.
Okay the bad stuff. The yellow paint started to fade after a few washes and that cool black sticker? Got really messed up in the brush during some trail rides and made the fork look older than its time.
The fork has a slight dead feel now, probably because the response of elastomers do naturally have that kind of feel versus the activeness of spring. My guru friend let me know of a way to modify the Judy SL by replacing the elastomers with a springset (to liven it up more) and if I wanted, I could install dual-cartidges (one compression, one rebound, or a combination) for the more tricky stuff, but, I stuck to the original configuration with the addition of new springs.
The overall vote? Now, it kicks! It handles the smaller stuff better (I don't feel it at my hands anymore) and the progressive nature of the spring handles the larger thumps better! I now ride my bike with the dampening control on full and had no problems since. If you got the elastomer stack and looking for a way to improve its performance, try springs! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John
a cross-country rider
from Michigan
Date Reviewed: September 23, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I bought the '97 SL from the shop where I work at. I broke the original AMP fork off my Amplifier and replaced it with a Girvin Elite. The Girvin worked great, but for some reason neither me nor my co-workers could seem to get it on straight. I rode it for 300 miles and then I gave up and slapped on my unused Judy when my girvin's shock spring started rubbing through the pain on my head tube. (Like I said, bad installation and no way to fix it.)
But I was really surprised at how much the handling improved, the shock action is really plush,it's stiff, and light. My bike went from 27 lbs with the Girvin to 25!.People breaking their lowers just need a better hub. If your wheel isn't tightened securely or your hub just sucks, breaking your lowers is inevitable.Anyways.. the only complaint I have with this is that i already blew through the cartridge, but that's okay since I can get a better one on my employee discount.
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Submitted by
Charlie Laboy
a cross-country rider
from Ponce, Puerto Rico
Date Reviewed: September 2, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have a 98 Judy SL, and it is safe to say it is THE BEST FORK MONEY CAN BUY. Yes, I tried the marzos, but they bob like hell and weigh a ton; Manitous break at the brace seam, and I don't waste my time looking at anything else...so, for the wise reviewers that gave the Judy less than four chilis, EAT YOUR HEARTS OUT!!!!!
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Submitted by
Tobias Edlund
a cross-country rider
from Stockholm, Sweden
Date Reviewed: August 21, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Yes, I know. There are better forks out there, but my frame (Klein Adroit) limits the choise to a very easy number: one... So I had to do the best of it. From the beginning, the fork had 63mm travel and Type 2 springs. I was not pleased with this setup. It felt like I didn´t used all the travel. So I mounted the 80mm cartridge, hoping that it would correct the problem. It didn´t. I achieved about 70mm with the new cartridge. 10mm less than it´s capable of. I began experimenting with diffrent length MCU´s and springrates. Not much happend... I finally decided to try the Type3 springkit with medium springs. Before this, my only experience with springs was WB springs, which blew thru the travel only bouncing around a parkinglot. Well, I gave it a try, and bingo. Something happend. It became a completely new fork! I later changed the smaller spring with a soft spring creating more sag (about 0.8 inches). This way I minimized the flex in the fork due to longer travel. So far, I´ve not bottomed the fork, and there is pretty rough terrain in Sweden. The wheigtpenalty is totally overshadowed by the performanceincrese. Rating would be 4 chilis. Because there is lighter and better fork on the market. Both Marzocchi´s and WBforks are plusher... | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tigger
a racer
from USofA
Date Reviewed: August 2, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Judy used to be the hot date, nice legs and smooth performance, sexy and light and desirable, but well, the Italians are soooo much sexier that all's I can say is; so long, farewell, auf weidersehn goodbye. When comparing a stock Judy to a Marzocchi Atom bob (or any Marzocchi fork for that matter), well there just ain't all that much to say. Kinda like the difference between dining at MacDonalds vs. Ruth's Chris. Yes, I'm prejudiced towards the Italian forks, but don't hold it against me, it's performance that matters. The Judy just feels lsow and sloppy, kinda like it was rode hard and hung up wet. Poor perf. on extreme XC conditions, lackadaisical on stutterbumps and horrid on the steeps...
So my advaice to you bikers out there, if you want a good fork, go Italian. You want yellow, eat a pineapple instead. ciao Judy, RIP. It was fun while it lasted.... | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jim
a cross-country rider
from CT
Date Reviewed: July 30, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have Eglund air's in a JUDY SL LT and have about 80+-mm of travel:
The fork is light and to Eglund's credit-pretty plush. However, the lateral
rigidity of this fork is terrible! Going thru really rough rock-strewn areas is
a challenge just to hold on to the bar because the wheel is going in a different direction than the bike. Weight: light
Performance/handling: Piss poor
Cost: Ridiculous | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Simon
a racer
from Los Angeles
Date Reviewed: July 23, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Two days of riding around the S.F. bay area in wet weather and my SL decided in a matter of 10 minutes to become a rigid fork - that thing was full with dirt water - no matter if the
rubber boots are on or not - leave that fork for two days with a little bit of moisture inside and there goes the golden coating- the bearing surface sticks to the tube surfac!!!
The fork also developed a lot of play - feels like a loose headset - very annoying!! If you don't get a kick out of disassembling your fork after every ride buy Bomber or Pace - I rode my Pace for 5 years, minimal maintenance, no slop, smooth as butter - Judys are
simply not worth the money! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Spokelegs(doublebutted)
a racer
from Dunedin,New Zealand
Date Reviewed: July 22, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I bought some '97 SLs from Supergo (so much cheaper than NZ prices) but was a little disappointed with performance.The old T2 springs suck compared to full spring.I wiegh 130 lbs so if you're heavier you might like them more.Also,one day i snapped them on the brace just above the brake bosses which wasn't under warrantee for 2 reasons 1)it was a collision 2)i ordered them from the states.It cost me $NZ150 to get new legs.Shove some springs in them and don't buy them if you ride too hard and you'll be OK.The rating is biased cos they're so light (even though mine weigh in at 2.9 lbs not 2.65lbs as claimed) | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
ROCK SHOS SUCKS
a racer
from Vancouver
Date Reviewed: July 21, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I hate this fork. The most I travel I ever got out of this was 1.5' tops. Even after I overhauled the fork. The damping doesn't work and after only 7 rides... thats right 7 rides. My cartridge blew up!! These shocks are such peices of crap. I hate them. The damping is terrible, the fork it anything BUT plush. Only thing going for this peice of crap is that its light. I HATE IT.Next year, I switch to superflys. In the mean time. Anyone wanna trade for some bomber z2?? | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
kurt
a cross-country rider
from concord, ca., USA
Date Reviewed: June 18, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
i love the lack of weight, but i had to mess with mine to get the full 3 inches of travel that it claimed (the long travel version for FS). at first it was stiff and only getting about 2+ inches even on the big bumps, but a guy at a local shop suggested that i drill some holes in the elastomers and .... BAMM .... its sweet now. what a difference. i also chopped in half the little plastic connector between the type 2 spring and elastomer, that allows the spring to more fully compress before engaging the elastomer. if RS offered some different elastomers for different weight riders that would probably help improve the tunability of this shock. i love it now ... its saved my butt in some big bumps that would have meant a face plant with my old Manitou 3.but i have to admit that i am coverting a Marzocchi Z1 .... if the price on the '97s ever drops enough ....
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Submitted by
beef
a weekend warrior
from singapore
Date Reviewed: June 16, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I don't think the fork's worth it's money, considering i think you'd have to get some shock upgrades for it. The dampening adjustment knob does nothing and leaks oil which leaves the knob covered with fine dust after a ride. I think I seriously need some upgrades cos there ain't no freaking damping. And there's noticably a lot of fore/aft flexing. I don't know what those guys are saying when they say that the fork's stiff in their reviews. It's got to be one of the most flexiest forks in the market. I need some serious reccomendations for upgrade parts, especially in the damping department. Here's one chili for making it light and yellow. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
endo
a racer
from boise
Date Reviewed: June 11, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
OK, first of all, it certainly is light. In fact, my Judy SL with Englund cartridges is 34 grams heavier than a SID, and it rides far superior to a SID, and yes I have ridden a SID. The Mag 21 rode sweet too. You ask, Englund Air Cartridges? Yes, it is the only way to utilize a Judy that I've found that consistently perform well, regardless of weather. It is so much more plush, way more plush than the stock innards, and the useable travel is almost doubled, and not affected by the temperature. So weight is the positive, internals are one of the bad things.
Rigidity is terrible. I ride consistently with 2 other friends, all of us on 97 Judy forks. My 2 friends now have been upgraded to the 98 lower because they broke the lower at the brake boss. I weigh the same, I ride the exact same trails as they do, and guess what, I'm gun shy waiting for this thing to snap. I e-mailed RS about this last week, and have heard nothing. I'm willing to send back my lower, before I break my head, and pay a fee for the upgrade to the 98, which I have heard is stiffer, and I have seen the 98 on friends bikes and indeed, it is beefier in the spots where they broke theirs. Still nothing. Perhaps RS will read this and e-mail me back. I can feel the individual leg movement in the lowers through the ruts and waterbars, it seems like my 21 was stiffer, so this greatly concerns me. Does anyone know of a way to upgrade to the 98 lower without having to buy one, this product is clearly a safety hazard, they beefed up the 98 lower for a reason!
5 chilies weight (I'm a gram counting wuss!)
-1 for inferior internals and need for upgrade
-1 for lowers breakage and individual leg movement (flex)
-1 for RS not e-mailing me back, good grief, it's a top of the line fork!Dang it, I wish Marzochi didn't weigh 7 pounds per fork.endo | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Hootie
a weekend warrior
from Denver
Date Reviewed: June 10, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
A follow up to the fork breakage below:Just got a call from my lbs, they said that a new set of 98 SL lowers are waiting for me in the shop, I'm pickin' up tonight. I am glad to see the RS wasn't gonna let me try to break another pair of '97s. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Hootie
a weekend warrior
from Denver, CO
Date Reviewed: June 5, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
************* WARNING ************* My '97 Judy SL lowers broke away from the brake arch last week. I started riding on them about April of last year and have pretty much beaten the crap out of them. My lbs said that they have not seen any of the '97 SLs break, but you have to ask yourself why RS has beefed up the lowers for this year??????Advice: Check for fracture marks around where the arch connects to the stanction or you could be one sorry pup.I was riding Mag 21s before this, its funny how some companies can nail it right out of the gate and then flounder as they try to follow the trend they created and abandoned.As an endnote: My lbs, Wheat Ridge Cyclery - Wheat Ridge, CO rules. They have set me up with some loaner lowers and are working with RS on the warranty. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Aaron
a racer
from Cranford, NJ
Date Reviewed: June 1, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I got my 97 Judy Sl this spring and only two weeks after that the thing blew apart on a downhill and the spacer hit me in the chest. I think it is because of the cheesy plastic caps on top.. Can't they make those things aluminum? Well other than that little mishap the fork has been great. I moved up from a crappy quradra 21R so in comaprison to that the Judy SL really rocks. I have been able to maintain control at much higher speeds and I find that it is a much better ride. I have found that after one or two wet rides the lube on the outside of the fork washes away and sometimes I think that boot just holds mud and water inside. Of course those things are easy to take care of. Overall, it has been a great addition to my bike. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Kha
a cross-country rider
from New Ulm, Mn
Date Reviewed: May 21, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I've had my '97 Judy SL LT SS for over a year now and I can honestly and objectively say that this fork is the best for most types of riding. My fork is long travel and as a pair of Speed Springs in them. After a few weeks of break-in time, this fork is extremely plush! The longer you have your SL, the better it gets. I've tried Bombers and this fork is almost as plush without being excessively so, like Bombers. Even with Speed Springs, you'll notice the weight, I mean LACK THERE OF. A Judy SL with coil springs in it is just as good as a Bomber in suspension action(if setup correctly for you're riding style and weight), but it does it without the weight or the excessive bobbing of a Bomber. Flexy? What are those riders talking about? This is one stiff and rigid fork. The one piece upper design is plenty rigid. Like the guy says below me, a great fork needs a great hub: XT or higher hub. I've had this fork for over a year and even did some downhilling on it and never ever did it fell flexy!! To summarize: light fork, very active, plush, rigid design, good looks, and reliable. Go out a try a Judy SL and you'll find out how great this fork is. Oh ya, you'll also get lots of ohs, ahs and respect for having a SL too. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
keith
a cross-country rider
from long island NY
Date Reviewed: May 12, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have a long travel SL. The shock works so sweet and is ridiculously light. These jokers that call it flexy probably have it on lx or cheaper hub. Its the cheasy hub stressing that is causing the crazy flex. A great fork needs a great hub. Also its silly to compare the SL to a bomber it is well over a pound lighter than a light bomber. The fork is unbelievable but too expensive. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Matt Pryor
a cross-country rider
from USA
Date Reviewed: April 28, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
So many reviews of the Judy SL fail to consider the purpose underlying
the fork. Rock Shox had a specific market in mind when they designed
it: the weight-saving, performance-oriented rider; yet so many of these
reviews whine about its lack of plushness, its play and other inherent
design flaws. I love the fact that it provides just enough travel - and stiction - to soak up the hits without compromising the feel for the trail. I've ridden Manitou, Marzocchi and unsuspended. I suggest only that Rock
Shox incorporate a damping design similar to Manitou - easier to adjust.
Marzocchi is the right fork for the squishy crowd because of its incredible plushness. Though it was my time done on unsuspended gave me an
appreciation for the feel of the trail I mentioned before, I sought the Judy SL to help with the roots and rocks common to my riding area. Unlike Manitou - whose forks are stictionless but don't seem to move give much anyway - the
Rock Shox Judy SL compensates but does not isolate the rider from the trail.
It is sooooo light, and relatively easy to adjust and maintain. The color
is classic. Perhaps all the backlash is due to the years of success the
Judy SL has enjoyed on the race circuit, but I prefer the time-tested,
refined behavior of it over any other option available. Four chilis for Judy. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bryan
a weekend warrior
from usa
Date Reviewed: April 24, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I've got a '98 SL. 200 miles and already a blown cartridge? I only weigh 155 and am still quite green. Any similiar stories? I hope this is an isolated incident, but I am beginning to eye the Z1. What to do....three for the ride, the other two, well, we'll see. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tommy2Pants
a cross-country rider
from Pittsburgh
Date Reviewed: April 20, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
97 Judy SL: The 97 SL is light(under 3 lbs with cut steerer), has adequate rigidity for a light fork, and is easily serviced. Out of the box, the fork has too much stiction (most are shipped dry), too little damping (adjusts from no damping to too little), and is slightly too stiff. In fact, an Indy SL (see my review posted 4-17) has a much better feel out of the box than the Judy, but is too flexible. Tinker with the SL (Lube, Long Travel Kit, whatever), and you will have a decent light weight fork. I prefer that to a great heavy weight fork which is where I would place the Marzocchi (or any other fork that weighs that much) - I would/will not install any fork which is near the 4 lb mark. The Manitou FX/SX Ti spring does feel much better out of the box, the weight is acceptable, but I prefer the servicability of the Judy SL. I also like the looks of the Judy better. The looks and marketing sold alot of Judy forks - which leaves the FS/SX Ti the best suspension fork buy in my opinion. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jay
a cross-country rider
from Vancouver, Washington
Date Reviewed: April 17, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I bought a used 97 Judy SL and slammed Englund Air Catridges in it. It is very light, but it is a flexy little bugger (even at my 180lbs). You pay a price
for light! If you race, go with this fork; however, trail riders, buy a Bomber Z2--it is tough, works awesome, and it takes little maintanance. By the way, I get nervous about this fork busting on me. It is probably my own paranoid thoughts, but it is built cheap....Three stars because it is light and looks cool....
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Submitted by
Matt
a cross-country rider
from Liverpool, NY
Date Reviewed: April 14, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have had my Judy SL for about 5 months. I have ridden off some small cliffs and also down some really gnarly rooted downhills. The Judy preformed excellently. It sucked up the roots and kept my front tire on the ground. I put speed springs in it (even though thy squeak like a rusty gate) and have replaced the cartridge with a White Brothers one. I love this fork!!!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Fernando Garzon
a cross-country rider
from Santa Fe
Date Reviewed: April 12, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I'm 165 lbs and have been riding for one year (+1400 miles) on the SL in the Rockies. The fork is inferior to the XC- way too much flex. Speed Springs definitely improve the shock adsorption. The damping system leaks oil also and frequent overhauls are a must to get any life out of these forks. I don't recommend these overpriced shocks. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Moe Foh
a racer
from Fred Vegas, VA
Date Reviewed: April 10, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
At 200# the '97 Judy SL w/the big preload spacer feels OK. A little bit of fore/aft flex, but I don't mind it that much.
My big complaint is that when I did my first maintenance after only 8 hours of use, I found a ring of CORROSION on the coated upper tubes where they contacted both the upper & lower bushings I called R.S. & they said it's from water sitting on the bushings. Use superfine paper to remove the corrosion. You havta overhaul it every time you suspect water gets in. God, that’s every stream crossing now!
Gee, it didn't say a damn thing about that in the freakin' maint. manual! Water never got in my Mag21. How could RS design & sella system where wet bushings corrode the coated lower legs ?? R.S. is probably laughin' all the way to the bank! This is PURE B.S. ('specialy at the price)
If you own one of these and have had more than a heavy dew settle on 'em, OVERHAUL 'EM NOW! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Matthew
a cross-country rider
from Cleveland, Ohio
Date Reviewed: April 9, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
First off, the Judy SL is an excellent fork. Manufacturer lies don't get a fork the reputation the Judy SL has. I don't have money to burn so before I bought my fork, I shopped around. I tried Marrozochi, Manitou, RST, and Rock Shox. Rock Shox was by far the superior ride. The majority of you who gave bad reviews have probably never actually tried an SL, and if you have, you were exagerating rediculously. Oh yeah, one more thing for those who gave bad reviews: WHY DON'T YOU TEST RIDE BEFORE YOU BUY A FORK, MORONS!!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
JT
a cross-country rider
from CT
Date Reviewed: March 20, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Is the travel on my 97 SL measured in travel of axle FRONT to BACK?! This puppy is like riding a wet noodle, albeit a light one. Waiting for fracture at steerer
tube due to flexing where it meets crown. Doesn't Rockshox have a testing department? Didn't anybody ride this thing and discover how FLEXIBLE it was or was it too late-the tooloing was already done? | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jim
a cross-country rider
from US
Date Reviewed: March 19, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Whatta ya kiddin me? This is a light shock but that's about it. It flexes
more than Lewinsky's knees. The movement in the lower legs is not often in line
with the legs. I have been riding Headshocks and Girvins and this unit does not compare to the tracking and stability of either.
2 chiles for weight only; this thing is overrated AND overpriced. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris
a
from England
Date Reviewed: March 17, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Oops, Rockshox cocked up. 97 Judys aren't bad, trouble is Pace, Marzzochi and Manitou came up with something better for less money. Good thing is 98 Rockshox are much better, but still not as nice as the Pace. For all you 97 Judy owners out there here is my advice: Get a large hacksaw and.....only joking, go and get some full length coil springs and stick those in instead - and make sure you service them regularly. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rod
a cross-country rider
from SE Michigan
Date Reviewed: February 17, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
The fork has nice up and down travel (AFTER installing England Air Cartridges).
But the front to back jiggle of the sliders is annoying as hell. Might as well call it Rock Shock jiggle like a fatty Judy SL. Get something stiffer! Try a headshock for you riders approaching 185-200 lbs. I can't believe I spent all that money for so much flexiness. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bandit
a cross-country rider
from SIN
Date Reviewed: February 13, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I've got the '98 Judy SL for a few months now, and I really must say that this fork is plush. The all-spring internals and new C3 cartridge does the job well. I also like the feel of my long travel version to match the rear travel of my FS rig. I believe its a little heavier than the '97's due to the disk brake mount and full coil spring. This is the fork to get! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
IAM A. MOUNTAINBIKER
a cross-country rider
from METHUEN MA. USA
Date Reviewed: February 13, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
The Judy SL is an excellent fork for the wieght sticklers. It has a decent ride but I owned a Bomber Z2 before the Judy and I liked the Bomber mucher better except for the wieght thing. So I'll either upgrade the Judy's internals or see if I can get one of them there lite w8 Bombers. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Roger Winther
a cross-country rider
from Norway
Date Reviewed: February 10, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
The best fork I have ever raced and tried. After upgrading it with Speedsprings and forkwipers Its even better. Norwegian riding conditions are really bad, and this fork just shines through when It comes to roots, rocks and almost everything. It even works In cold weather, that has always been a problem with the other forks that I have had. That Is Manitou and Marzocchi. The only negative is the paintjob and stickers on the fork, for the price they charge It should be good paint and no cheap stickers ! Do It better next time. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
David Donohue
a racer
from Ft.Lauderdale, FL USA
Date Reviewed: January 31, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
On the day after Christmas I was training with a friend when my 97' Judy SL decided to blow up in my face and it took 3 of my teeth with it. The plastic threads on the cap were sheared right off. I'm looking for anyone with similar incidents to stengthen my case so I don't get stuck with my $5000+ in dental bills. I'm desperate to find anyone so if you have info please e-mail me. Thanx alot Dave | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Buntz
a cross-country rider
from New Ulm, MN
Date Reviewed: January 25, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
The very best for my Schwinn Homegrown F/S Bass Boat Blue!!!!! I totallt agree with Corn and the guy that 2 above him. I also have 97 Judy SL SS LT (same as below) I work at the local bike shop and as someone that serves these shocks I have to say, Rock shock is the best!. This fork has saved my ass more than a dozen times. My face would be a mess without it! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rob Campau
a weekend warrior
from Rochester, Mi.
Date Reviewed: January 23, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
With all points considered I would have to say that as a out of the box shock, this Judy basically sucks. The SL is incredibly stiff and impracticable for anything other than cross country bull-shit. Stop trusting a bunch of pansy ass factory racers and listen to the sound your wrist makes with a loss of cartilage. Maybe if I could get at least 2 in. of travel when I jump on the f**kin' thing I wouldn't be so hostile. It very well may be an amazing fork if tinkered with, but I personally don't have the time or patience to f**k around with it. It is a beautifully crafted fork, so if that is what I was looking for, i'd be a happy camper. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
ZUKILL
a
from Ljubljana,Slovenia,Europe
Date Reviewed: January 23, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Here it goes (after 8 months and 4400 km):
1. Claimed travel was false: only 5 cm travel with hard jump from 5 stairs, and more important: subjective feeling over obstacles (roots,stones,gaps): to slow+to hard --> MCU.
Installed SPEED SPRINGS (green+blue) for 73 kg weight. --> faster response+more travel.
50 DEM (25$).2. Poorly designed rebound cartridge: - oil competely leaked out in these 8 months. why? Because i had turned knob to maxed softiness: pressure on oil was causing to leak out constantly... I figured it few days ago with repeated leaking: turned knob opposite to 'SOFT' for two full turns (maximum allowed) and there was no leaking any more...
- adjustment range is very narrow: you can feel the diference between MIN and MAX but it is more subjective than useful.3. Stiffnes: fork made me feel my bike very unstable: when brakes are applied on long descents, it starts to move back and forth on wheel axle about 2-3 cm (because of diry or uneven rim surface), it is not easy to not think when will that finnaly cause major crash on my face. Also in tight slow turns it cannot be compared to rigid fork(or stiffer susp.fork): it is simply unstable (especially when front brakes are touched even lightly) ...
- There is also new added play because of worn spacers in internal mehanisms.I had enough Rock Shox for another 10 years: going for something else now: maybe GIRVIN elite with NR-2... | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Colin
a cross-country rider
from Dallas, TX
Date Reviewed: January 4, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I pose a question to Rock Shox.. If a person is spending $400+ on one of your suspension forks, shouldn't they be allowed to pick which weight elastomers and springs should be installed? Not all riders weigh 150(ish) pounds. I had to plunk down much extra cash (on top of the base price of the fork) to buy 120# elastomers and springs to get the travel that I wanted (and deserved for the price). My rating for the revamped fork is five chilis. Bar none the best I've yet ridden. My rating for Rock Shox choice of spec, however, cannot be posted for lack of a negative sign to place before the chilis. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Whats up with the crap written below?
a cross-country rider
from USA
Date Reviewed: January 4, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Please read the stuff written below this one before reading my review please. First off, if you're not writing a review, don't write something, rate a product and then post it! The stuff written below this one is just plain garbage, the writer is trying defend Bombers(I don't know why) and not writing a review and rating the Judy SL one chili. I totally agree with Corn, the Judy SL is the best all-round fork out there, it is rigid, light(not like Bombers, ha) and plush enough that they minimize trail bumps without weighting a ton and bobbing up and down when hammering a sprint or climbing a hill. So go out and test ride some forks, you'll find out why Rock Shox is the best and getting better. 5 flaming chilis for an awesome fork and to counteract the 1 chili and garbage given below. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
What is the deal with the feel
a cross-country rider
from the trail?
Date Reviewed: January 3, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Sorry, sorry, not reviewing the SL......I was just wondering what all this garbage about not feeling the trail while riding when on a Bomber is..........the review belows criticizes the Bomber (without naming it) for giving a vauge steering feel and not allowing the rider to feel anything...........that is bull.......Bombers steer better than any single crown telescopic fork out there (I've ridden enough to make that assumtion, although it doesn't include the White Bros.).....and the purpose of suspension is to minimize the bumps on the trail.........a bomber still gives enough feedback to let the rider know what's going on, without transmitting most surface irregularities, which is why you own a suspentsion fork, anyway. (BTW, better trail feel is yours with a rigid fork, and it's lighter too!) (BTW also, i feel judys are generally poop, eliminating trail feel by offering a suspension feel that drives you crazy with its harsh compression and badly controlled rebound) | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Corn
a cross-country rider
from New Ulm, MN
Date Reviewed: January 3, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Nutt'n but the best for my custom '97 GT Team LTS. My '97 Judy SL LT SS(super light, long travel, speed springs) perfectly matches the rear suspension of the LTS, talk about the front and rear suspensions being in perfect sync, ahhhh. The Judy SL is very light, rigid and plush. Ya there are lighter forks out there, but do they match the performance and the quality travel of the SL? I think not! Ya there are plusher forks out there, but they are for wusses who like vague steering feel and who don't like to feel anything while riding(don't mountain bike then, go road riding, duh!), and who like to lug a 4 to 5 pound fork up a hill that bobs up and down so violently, that I literally sucks the energy out of its rider! I my opinion, the Judy SL is the best all-around, do-it-all suspension fork out there, but don't take my work for it, go out and find out for yourself. Oh ya, if you complain about the high price, don't buy one, no one will make you, duh! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
albert
a cross-country rider
from chicago
Date Reviewed: January 1, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Why the heck is everyone talking like they are pro and they've got everything figured out about this fork?
I've had this fork for a while now and it works fine. it's definately lighter than a manitou or a bomber.
Those two weigh a ton! And why the heck is everyone complaining about flexing? if you are being
honest with yourself, is the flexing really affecting your ride, you pathetic techno freak!i do trials on my SL and don't feel that much more flexing than a bomber or a manitou. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dale Perkins
a cross-country rider
from Knoxville, TN
Date Reviewed: December 26, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I put a new Judy SL on my Kestrel Rubicon six months ago. What a mistake! I should have kept my old Manitou 4. The SL gives a sloppy ride. I kept thinking my head set was loose. As for plushness? No way! I absolutely advise everyone to stay away from this fork. This is my third fork (two Rock Shox and one Manitou). My fourth one will be a Marzocchi. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Duzzi
a weekend warrior
from San Francisco
Date Reviewed: December 12, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Well ... guess what ... I instaled a second dummy leg in the Judy (i.e. I got rid of the cartridge) and the fork works ... better.
I now get full travel (well, 72 insteadof 80) compression is ok, and rebound just a bit too quick (I'll drill awhole in the right leg binding bolt to try to decrease rebound). I lost 80 grams in the process (the Judy now weights around 2.85 pounds) ... you figure the engineering (is there any?) that goes into a RS | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andrew
a cross-country rider
from B.C. Canada
Date Reviewed: December 7, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Well I'm afraid I'm going to give this fork a lacklustre rating as well. No grease in it from the factory, and my top caps were in finger tight. Cartrige hasn't blown yet - surprise! But I've only put in a half dozen rides on it as I can't stand the thing. Flexy as hell, makes wierd noises and our weather is already trashing the stanchions due to the pathetic boots. sorry to say it might make it in California or Utah, but not here. Buy an Atom Bomb, That's what I'm doing (Old Mag 21 back on for now)Later- | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike King
a weekend warrior
from Canada
Date Reviewed: December 1, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
It is a good product because I like it. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike
a racer
from NC
Date Reviewed: November 29, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Judys Suck! They require maintenance after every ride and remain stictionless for about ten minutes. Parts like brake braces and oil cartridges break easily. Don't buy rock shox!!!!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Fernando Garcia
a weekend warrior
from Colombia
Date Reviewed: November 25, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Hello friends ! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John Call
a racer
from Bel Air, MD
Date Reviewed: November 7, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I race X-country for a team in Baltimore, MD and used to own a Mag-21 which was
pretty good for when I first started mountain bike racing. I have owned a Judy SL for about a month now and love how it handles. Awseome!!!!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
marc lewis
a racer
from Piscataway NJ
Date Reviewed: October 18, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
It seems Rock Shox misleads everyone in the weight issue, imagine what the SID weighs,deffinately NOT 2.4lbs, Anyone interested in a 2.6lbs Judy suspension fork 2.8 travel, weight is actual weight, not myth, with an uncut 1.125 alloy steerer tube retailing at $400 any weight weenies interested and for a budget version with a chromolly steerer at 3.1lbs(no ti bolts either) retailing at $300, give me a shout if anyone has questions i'll get back to you,PROMISE | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tobias T
a cross-country rider
from Falkenberg , Sweden
Date Reviewed: September 19, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Judy SL is the best fork on the market, no doubt about it. It´s stiff, lots of travel, light and so good looking. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bram Dally
a cross-country rider
from Tacoma, Washington
Date Reviewed: August 17, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
After approx. 1100 single track miles on this fork with stock internals, I can tell you that it can be improved substantially with an Englund Air insert. However, while this fork is much lighter, it does not compare to the Marz. Z1 or Z2 for ride quality. It is not worth the weight savings. Rock Shox is going to have to get its act together if it wants to remain the leader in this industry as they are getting their butt kicked by Marzocchi. I never though I would see the day when I would be willing to carry an extra 1 1/4 pounds in a fork, however, that day has come. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Josh Worthen
a cross-country rider
from Springfield, NH
Date Reviewed: August 9, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Drop in the three inch kit and go ride anything!!!!!
It kicks ass! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
TV
a cross-country rider
from Mill Valley, CA
Date Reviewed: August 1, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Everybody on this review site must be a pro because I've never seen so many pro-like comments about these forks. Bottom line is this is a great all around fork for XC riding, it's light and in my humble opinion all of them are pretty comparable. If I didn't have the SL I'd be happy to ride the XC or even a Manitou SX-Ti or a Z2. There's just not a huge amount of difference between them all. Granted, the Judy costs more at most places but if you shop around and that's the fork you want, you can find good deals. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
duzzi
a weekend warrior
from
Date Reviewed: July 31, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I have used the Judy SL for the past 5 months. First of all, I think that it is amazing that Rock shock gets away with advertising a weight of 2.65 pounds
(see above). The fork really weights three pounds BEFORE adding grease to it (the fork, amazingly but probably to make it seem lighter or to make you buy the ridiculously overpriced judy butter, comes with almost no grease anywhere). I am amazed that bybicle magazines which make a fuss over half a pound (e.g. MBA) overlook .35 pounds in the fork. The weight as reported probably refers to the fork without legs protection, brakes bosses and nno oil.Besides this I think this fork is pretty bad. I never (no matter what spings I tried) got full travel (with the long travel cartridge instead of 80 mm I get 62), the overall performancs is ok at relatively low speeds and smooth tarrain.
If you go fast and run into roots or stutter bumps forget it. It will work on the first hit but not on the following ones. On long downhill you better slow down. The fork also flexes a good deal on any hit that is not perfectly straight (and I am 145 pounds!). The so called system II is also quite a rip off. I measured the difference in travel between short ann longplastic inserts at 3mm, the difference in feeling on the trail is impossible to detect.I give it a score of two, mostly for misleading all of us on the (oh! so important) weight issue and for overpricing so much something that just does not work as a fork should.Duzzi, on his way to a Marzocchi Z-1PS when you hear of the 98 Judy weighting 2.45, just do not believe it and add half a pound to it. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Gabeman
a cross-country rider
from Seattle, WA
Date Reviewed: July 16, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I have this fork with englund air internals, and there is so much play between the lower legs and the stantions that it feels like a loose headset. I'm seeing if I can get it warrantied. On the plus side, it is very plush and light. I just want it to feel more solid... | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Someone
a
from cross-country rider
Date Reviewed: July 12, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Why would somebody say this shock sucks?? either you never rode it before and pretend you did so you sound cool or you simply can't afford it and pretend you have it.....or other stuff which I don't feel like typing | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Abe Bruski
a cross-country rider
from Alpena Mi
Date Reviewed: July 8, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I think this fork is O.K. I have one on my GT tempist I wish I would have bought a 97 judy xc I is so much better than the sl I have. My friend Matt has one I love to ride his bike now because it rides so much smoother. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
nick arran
a cross-country rider
from hong kong
Date Reviewed: July 2, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I very nearly bought a 97 Judy SL today, but it pissed its oil out whilst I was looking at it - not much use having re-bound damping if there's no oil inside; some sucker will probably buy that fork and never have any oil problems at all (and no damping either). I bought the Manitou instead - shame about the plastic adjusters but at least it works. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Scott
a racer
from Seattle
Date Reviewed: June 25, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
The newest SL is fair at best. I wish didn't sell my 96 SL. Much better action and far higher quality. Some of the fit/finish on the 97 makes it look like it came out of Taiwan and should cost $199.Better luck next year Rock Shox. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
mavic
a cross-country rider
from canada
Date Reviewed: June 11, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
i love em if you dont want your fork and live in canada i will buy your fork for 200-300$ depending on my mood and cash flow so e-mail me if you want to sell at
mavic221@hotmail.comthey must be in working condition ( 97 only ) | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
S.James
a cross-country rider
from Ontario
Date Reviewed: June 7, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
before installing it I rebuild the thing as Rock Shox don't
seem interested in putting enough of their Judy butter in
it. I find mine works very well as long as it is
maintained regularly. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Vader
a weekend warrior
from Arizona
Date Reviewed: June 7, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
This fork sucks. I am a heavy guy, 220lbs, and when I am on the bike I lose about 3/4 of an inch. Not only that the cartridge leaked after 3 weeks. Later I upgraded to Speed springs and while going down hill one day, it broke. Rock Shox replaced it and I just sold the damn thing off at a loss. Now I use a FS-Ti and find it to bemuch better than the SL | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris
a cross-country rider
from usa
Date Reviewed: June 2, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I bought my SL's in November of 1996. They worked at an acceptable
level, but then started creaking. Rock Shox said it was the crown assembly,
so I sent them back. They replaced the sliders, crown, cartridge and MCU's.
On the first ride the sliders broke just above the brake boss and sent me
into orbit.
Rock Shox sent me a new fork. I will say Rock Shox customer service is
good, but with a product like this, they need it.
Rock Shox listed weight is optimistic, mine weigh 3.0 lbs with the
steerer cut. I'm waiting to see what the new Z2 is like.
| | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
CG
a weekend warrior
from Toronto, Canada
Date Reviewed: May 26, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I agree that this shock is not good. My 1996 Judy XC were much better untill some welfare case stoll my pride. My insurance company bought me a Y-33 where 1997 Judys are standard equipment, SO PLEASE DON'T MAKE FUN OF ME WHEN YOU SEE MY SHOCKS, I DID NOT BUY THEM, nor do I suggest that you should either. I do notice Judys work much better in warm wether. If the weather here ever get warm here i am sure I will rate them again at 4 stars posibly even 5 if they react like the XC's did in hot weather. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ken Geroux
a racer
from Canberra, Australia
Date Reviewed: May 26, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Hi I'm Ken Geroux, a 13-year-old chappie with a bitchen byke. My daddie gave me big ducats for spending on my byke. I e-mailed Rock Shox and they sent me a test version of the '98 Judy SLX. 5 of travel and it only weighs 2.75 lbs American. Scorching orange and green paint (like SWOBO jerseys) it works great on my Merlin 13.5 byke. I can go 42 kph down big hills and hit stumps without going over the bars. Face it chappies the looks and travel are the most important. You chokers who are afraid to shell out $750 American for the best fork are so poor you should'nt be allowed to ride.Ken Geroux, the byker's chappie | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave
a cross-country rider
from Marina
Date Reviewed: May 23, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I too had disappointing performance form my judy SL when I first got it. After months of dicking around with the internals, I have come up with what I think is the answer. Put a spring in one side, and the elastomer spring combo in the other side, BUT cut the plastic spring ramp-damn-thing down to a nub so you get more action from the spring on the elastomer side. These steps really seem to help the fork do its job. Still, If I had paid retail for this shock I would have been plenty pissed off. 4 peppers after modification, 2 straight out of the box. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Doug
a racer
from Detroit, MI
Date Reviewed: May 22, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
The SL is the prettiest fork and it is light. But it sucks - Major dissapointment. Lame Action, stickey feel. I put the shortest plastic preload adjuster in and it still sucked so I got the 100 lb spring and have the preloaders backed out and it still sucks. I like action and this fork doesn't have it. My conclusion: too stiff elastomers or replace entire unit with a spring. It might be good for a heavy rider as is. I am getting the BOMBER Z.2 if anyone wants to buy this fork e-mail me! Otherwise I'll get some white brothers springs when they become available. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
WESLEY
a downhiller
from 1 GÔIANO EM NOVA YORK,EUA
Date Reviewed: May 17, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
E A MELHOR!!!!!!!!
EU GOSTARIA DE CONHECER ALGUM(ALGUMA)
BRASILERO(BRASILEIRA).
O MEU E-MAIL E:
santos4@juno.com | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris
a racer
from Flagstaff, AZ
Date Reviewed: May 11, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I had just bought the new SL's and thought they ruled. My buddy is riding the Marzocchi Z2 Bombers. I rode his bike and there was no comparison. Not even close! The Z2 Bombers are the best XC fork on the market today. I sold my Judy's and now have the new White Z2 bombers. As for the weight of them, it isn't even noticed because the ride is 100% better. Used to be five stars, but now only two until they go to an open bath system. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Duke Nukem
a cross-country rider
from P.G.,British Columbia, Canada
Date Reviewed: May 10, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
THIS FORK RULES!!! I saw some complaints from people who weigh under 150 pounds. The whole point of the all the Judy's is for people who are heavier like 160 or more. If you're only 142 pounds and riding a Judy SL, you don't know your forks, man. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jay Hymel
a cross-country rider
from Louisiana
Date Reviewed: May 2, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I've had the 97 SL for about 5 months now. The only problems I have encountered were a creaking from the internal legs and a broken preload adjuster. The creaking was coming from the crown/leg assembly where the legs were pressed into the crown. Rock Shox gracefully sent a replacement assembly in two days. They said they haven't had this problem with 97 SL's and that they were suprised. , I had one of the plastic preload adjusters break during a race last month. It didn't cause the shock to fail, but did need to be replaced. These are the only mechanical problems I have encountered. The ride seems to be a little harsher then the 96 SL's, so I opt'd to go with the 120 lbs. springs instead of the stock 140 lbs. springs. The compression damping adjustment really doesn't work. If you ever rebuild the cartridge, you will see that the design looks nice, but really doesn't offer much in adjustment (just remember, the adjuster knob has 4 positive indents when turning; if you don't feel this, the knob is not turned in enough). The fork tracks nicely as opposed to the Manitou 4 and EFC I used to ride. I think in the near future that I will try a set of springs instead of the spring/elastomer combination. I have heard good comments on this setup. In all, I feel the shock is a good choice, if you don't mind paying a little extra to fine-tune it to your style of riding. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ned Holland
a downhiller
from UK
Date Reviewed: April 26, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
This product kicks butt if you want style take this! I jumped a 2 ft ramp and they brought me a soft comfortable landing . | | Overall Rating: |
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