Converts your standard rims and tires to a tubeless system. Has the ability to be used with tubeless and non-tubeless tires. This cost efficient light weight system reduces rotating weight for faster and easier pedaling. This Tubeless system will convert 2 tires and rims and includes: 1 pint of Stan's Tire and Rim Sealant (seals approximately 8 tires), a 60g scoop, 2 Molded Rim Strips with removable valve core, 1 roll nylon reinforced tape, and decal.
Submitted by
Adam
a Cross Country Rider
from Denver, CO, US Date Reviewed: October 4, 2008
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$70.00
Bottom Line:
Don't bother. If you want to convert to tubeless, buy a 20" tube, fillet it down the center, fit it over the rim and trim it beneath the lip where the tire bead sits. It's the same thing (or better) and costs about $6.00 plus the cost of sealant. Mount a UST tire and seal with your preferred sealant. Thanks to the guys at Mojo Wheels for this tip.
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Submitted by
jkoehler
a Cross Country Rider
from Medina, OH Date Reviewed: September 7, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Mohican State Park
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$80.00
Purchased At:
LBS
Strengths:
None that comes to my mind
Weaknesses:
Pretty much everythings
Bike Setup:
Specialized Rockhopper Comp Disc, Rhynolite w/XT hubs, Kenda Nevegal tires, a lot of other extras.
Bottom Line:
I am sure there are people that are using this stuff successfully, however my experience was all bad. I am a bigger rider (220lbs.) and I use Rhynolite wheels. I read through the instructions, did numerous dry runs and felt very comfortable with the process. I consider myself to be fairly savvy when it comes to bikes. I followed the directions to the T, I did the soap, shake, soap, shake, repeat multiple times, give it time to settle. You name it, I did it. I had ZERO leaks. As soon as it would come under fire (out on the trail) I would get slow leaks. CONSTANTLY. The directions online state if you are using Rhynolite rims use their rimtape. I tried with my tape that was originally on the wheels and their rim tape. Same result. If you are a bigger guy forget this stuff. I would be shocked if it would work for you. I talked to several other people who had the same problem. I could have changed 60 tires in the amount of time I spent trying to get this to work. If you do buy this stuff, go online and download their detailed instructions and watch the video.
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Submitted by
smokey422
a Cross Country Rider
from MO USA Date Reviewed: July 6, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Landahl, Rock Bridge State Park
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Price Paid:
$50.00
Purchased At:
notubes.com
Strengths:
For me, none.
Weaknesses:
Won't seal tires in spite of doing everything recommended in the video.
Similar Products Used:
none.
Bike Setup:
Fisher HT, SRAM 9.0, XT hubs, Mustang rims.
Bottom Line:
I tried both of Stan's kits, the original with the tape and the one with the expensive glorified inner tubes (rim strips). Tried it with several tires, including Hutchinson Pythons (which Stan said would work) and Panaracer XC Pros. I couldn't get them to pop and seal even with a big Sears air compressor and yes, I shook the tires all around to spread the sealant. It was a miserable failure, making a big mess and one of the worst products I've used on my MTB.
The ratings show that a lot of riders have had success with Stan's kits and I'm glad for them, but I can only report how they worked for me, which was NOT! If I ever decide to go tubeless again it will be with a set of the UST wheels and tires.
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Submitted by
Charlie
a
from Houston, Texas Date Reviewed: April 28, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Bluff Creek Ranch (Warda)
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$60.00
Purchased At:
On-line
Strengths:
Cheaper way to go tubeless than buying new UST rims and tires.
Weaknesses:
Initial setup is difficult. Costly for what you get in the kit.
Similar Products Used:
None
Bike Setup:
Cobia 29er converted to 1 x 9, DT Swiss TK7.1D rims, 340 hubs, monkeylite bars.
Bottom Line:
I read the instructions and watched the installation video several times. I followed all instructions EXACTLY. It was still a major pain in the butt to get the tires to seal (about 2 hours worth of shaking, laying on side, re-inflating to 40psi, etc., etc.). The installation video implies tires seal in about 5 minutes and the written instructions say even the most difficult tires seal in 30 minutes. Anyway, my 29er Maxxis Crossmark's on TK7.1 rims ultimately did seal and have been holding air ever since. I have not yet given them a full test by fire, but the tires seemed to do OK on my little backyard obsticle course.
If you don't mind investing time and energy into this project and are pretty handy, then you might want to buy this. Oh yeah, and if you own a compressor. No way this stuff works without getting the tire started with a compressor.
But if you want something simple and clean and don't mind spending some more money, then go for UST rims and tires and skip Stan's.
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Submitted by
Robert Bowers
a Racer
from Mt Tamborine Qld Australia Date Reviewed: March 19, 2008
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$25.00
Purchased At:
through shop I do fill in work at
Strengths:
Reduced flats. Spend more time in the saddle. Improved handling and traction. Improved comfort/rolls better over rough ground.
Weaknesses:
Not for lazy people who neglect maintenance or have all work done by their LBS
Similar Products Used:
My own latex system. Systems used for fixing bladers in footballs. In fact I did this before finding out about Stan's but never hooked on to the potential in a marketing success.
Bike Setup:
NRS carbon. Stan's Olympic wheelset. Yellow rim tape and Continental Supersonic Explorers, a similar wheelset with Maxlite 310s and a AmClassic Sprint 350 wheelset with Hutchys. The Stan's rim strips work only for a little while. I used them on some Bontrager Asym rims that would not inflate and the stems tore out v easily (just put a nut on the thread spin it all the way down and add a nereopene washer and place the strip on and poke the stem through the strip and rim and another nut on to hold it together - problem solved, and I ran this for a year).
Bottom Line:
In my opinion these are one of the top MTB innovations, just coming in behind clippless pedals.
Some people hate the stuff. It is expensive in that it is a simple chemical with some solid particles in it, however, the benefit is worth the cost.
I does take some looking after and during warner times of the year I'll pull the tires off every eight weeks, in winter every three months. Better pulling tires off at home than on the trail. I have perhaps one of two punctures a year that the sealant won't fix when I've had big cuts, but it would be every second ride that I get a flat that self seals and where all I've had to do on a regular 2-3hr ride is add another 5psi (I run about 30psi in a 2.1, 32-35 in a Maxlite 310 and 90-100psi in the road tubless). Sometimes I just see the evidence of the sealant leaking out when I get back to the car or get home without having to put an air in.
I could never go back to tubes as my primary set up. Tubes are a back up for only.
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Submitted by
Larry Ginzkey
a Cross Country Rider
from Denver, Colorado, US Date Reviewed: January 20, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Monarch Crest
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$57.00
Purchased At:
Stan's No-Tubes
Strengths:
Stan's works. In over five years riding all over Colorado I have never had a flat. I get better uphill traction and downhill braking by using lower air pressure -- plus the ride is smoother and tires last notably longer, too.
Weaknesses:
Set-up is messy -- don't try it in your living room! May not work with every rim / tire combination. Recommend using high pressure air hose (rather than floor pump) to get tire to seat on rim. Must add sealant every 2-3 months, as it dries out over time. When iinstalling a new tire, must scour rim completely to remove dried sealant before new tire will seat properly.
Similar Products Used:
None.
Bike Setup:
Santa Cruz "Heckler" 1999-2005; Ellsworth "Truth" 2005-present. Currently run Mavic 717 disc rims with WTB Weirwolf or Velociraptor tires or IRC Mythos XC tires.
Bottom Line:
Pros: 1. Stan's prevents flats from external sources (thorns, rocks) and internal pinch flats (because you can run tires at reduced air pressure). 2. Running at lower air pressure gives better uphill traction and downhill braking; also gives smoother ride and tires last longer. Cons: 1. At $57 for the kit and $10 per pint refills, Stan's is not cheap. But you don't have to continually buy tubes and tires may last longer. 2. Set-up is messy and there is a learning curve to get it right. Need high pressure air hose to get tires to seat properly on rims. 3. Stan's may not work with all tire & rim combinations. 4. You have to replenish sealant every 2-3 months, as it dries out over time. 5. When you install a new tire you have to thoroughly clean the dried sealant from the rims to get the tire to seat properly.
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Submitted by
Dick Slessig
a Cross Country Rider
from L.A., Ca. USA Date Reviewed: July 14, 2007
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$60.00
Purchased At:
bikeman
Strengths:
cheap way to go tubeless
Weaknesses:
falls apart
Bike Setup:
Kona Explosif 29er. WTB Dual Duty rims.
Bottom Line:
After 6 months of use, the valves on both rim strips separated from the strips themselves. I managed to fix the first one by putting a nut on the inside and sealing it with epoxy, and now it looks like I'll be doing the same on #2. The system does work, but it's a messy business when you have to remove the tire and put in a tube trailside. I'd be a lot more forgiving if it cost a third of the price, which would be reasonable for what basically amounts to 2 innertubes and a pint of fix-a-flat.
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Submitted by
dave
a Cross Country Rider
from boise Date Reviewed: June 12, 2007
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$55.00
Purchased At:
pricepoint
Strengths:
inexpensive
Weaknesses:
compatibility
Bike Setup:
2005 heckler, 2004 ibex hardtail, 2 sets mavic crosslands with hutchinson pythons, 1 set mavic 717s with python non ust tires and stans conversion kit.
Bottom Line:
I have had it with this system you do not know what a hassle it is until you try a UST wheel and tire setup, my point is UST rim and tires are designed to be compatable with each other stans notubes rimstrips are not compatable with certain wheels and many tires. UST wheel and tires have no install problems or compatibility issues i have used them for years with no problem, I do add stans sealant.Some of the newer UST tires are around 600 grams now so that makes UST even more attractive.Stans system is frustrating, maxxis tires reccomended? I wasted money mail ordering a set of rancheros...they leaked profusely through the sidewalls and despite trying many techniques they still leaked, leaking throuigh the valve stem hole in the rim, tried all reccomended fixes carefully placing rim tape, checking for holes in rim strip ect, the rim strip was brand new,returned them and still had problem with another new rim strip....no holes and carefully soaped up and installed and carefully checking it was seated in rim lip, back wheel no problem whatsoever.UST system was carefully researched and developed and it shows...a bullet proof system that is so reliable..sorry stan I give up.cost is not much of an issue with me since mavic crosslands are only $250.00 for a set.
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Submitted by
dave
a Cross Country Rider
from boise Date Reviewed: June 12, 2007
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$55.00
Purchased At:
pricepoint
Strengths:
inexpensive
Weaknesses:
compatibility
Bike Setup:
2005 heckler, 2004 ibex hardtail, 2 sets mavic crosslands with hutchinson pythons, 1 set mavic 717s with python non ust tires and stans conversion kit.
Bottom Line:
I have had it with this system you do not know what a hassle it is until you try a UST wheel and tire setup, my point is UST rim and tires are designed to be compatable with each other stans notubes rimstrips are not compatable with certain wheels and many tires. UST wheel and tires have no install problems or compatibility issues i have used them for years with no problem, I do add stans sealant.Some of the newer UST tires are around 600 grams now so that makes UST even more attractive.Stans system is frustrating, maxxis tires reccomended? I wasted money mail ordering a set of rancheros...they leaked profusely through the sidewalls and despite trying many techniques they still leaked, leaking throuigh the valve stem hole in the rim, tried all reccomended fixes carefully placing rim tape, checking for holes in rim strip ect, the rim strip was brand new,returned them and still had problem with another new rim strip....no holes and carefully soaped up and installed and carefully checking it was seated in rim lip, back wheel no problem whatsoever.UST system was carefully researched and developed and it shows...a bullet proof system that is so reliable..sorry stan I give up.cost is not much of an issue with me since mavic crosslands are only $250.00 for a set.
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Submitted by
dave
a Cross Country Rider
from boise Date Reviewed: June 12, 2007
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$55.00
Purchased At:
pricepoint
Strengths:
inexpensive
Weaknesses:
compatibility
Bike Setup:
2005 heckler, 2004 ibex hardtail, 2 sets mavic crosslands with hutchinson pythons, 1 set mavic 717s with python non ust tires and stans conversion kit.
Bottom Line:
I have had it with this system you do not know what a hassle it is until you try a UST wheel and tire setup, my point is UST rim and tires are designed to be compatable with each other stans notubes rimstrips are not compatable with certain wheels and many tires. UST wheel and tires have no install problems or compatibility issues i have used them for years with no problem, I do add stans sealant.Some of the newer UST tires are around 600 grams now so that makes UST even more attractive.Stans system is frustrating, maxxis tires reccomended? I wasted money mail ordering a set of rancheros...they leaked profusely through the sidewalls and despite trying many techniques they still leaked, leaking throuigh the valve stem hole in the rim, tried all reccomended fixes carefully placing rim tape, checking for holes in rim strip ect, the rim strip was brand new,returned them and still had problem with another new rim strip....no holes and carefully soaped up and installed and carefully checking it was seated in rim lip, back wheel no problem whatsoever.UST system was carefully researched and developed and it shows...a bullet proof system that is so reliable..sorry stan I give up.cost is not much of an issue with me since mavic crosslands are only $250.00 for a set.
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Submitted by
Randy
a Cross Country Rider
from Portland Date Reviewed: December 9, 2006
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Strengths:
Flat protection.
Weaknesses:
Finicky about tires. Burps air too easily. Messy.
Bottom Line:
I've used Notubes systems for about 5 years. The conversion kits are the worst. They are very finicky about tires. I found several tires that sealed well in the workshop but every one of them would burp air if you hit the side of a rock or a punji stick.
The Notubes rims are much better about not burping air but they are still very finicky about tires. The tire will usually seal right the first time but if you remove the tire and put it back on there always seem to be problems. The bead seems to get stretched out and it's hard to get them aired up. A new tire can often be seated with a hand pump but take the tire off and try putting it back on again and you will need a shop compressor.
Two scoops of sealant weighs 120 grams. Add the rim strip to that and you have 170 grams total per tire. Even if you just use the valve stem and not the rim strip you're looking at the same weight as a lightweight tube at 120-140 grams and lots of hassle.
If you're looking at Notubes in 29" be aware that the only tire with a kevlar bead that is recommended is the Stan's Crow. This airs up well on the Notube rim but the tread is almost non-existent.
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Submitted by
Mike
a Cross Country Rider
from OC CA Date Reviewed: August 29, 2006
Favorite Trail:
all
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$57.00
Purchased At:
ebay
Strengths:
NO FLATS. That is for sure. Works very well. Simple installation process.
Weaknesses:
Tedious on some sets of rims and tires according to the reviews here. No problems on mine
Similar Products Used:
none. First tubeless anything
Bike Setup:
Mavic x317 rims and kenda dtc nevegal tires 2.1
Bottom Line:
I have the tires that everyone here says are the problem child, Kenda Nevegal DTC 2.1. I got them to work. I had a few issues with the "zits" on the sidewall. I emailed Mike over at no tubes and he said to put a little super glue on them after they seal with stan's, no issues after. The sidewalls were not an issue. Mine also sealed in less than a day. They would lose a little pressure because of "zits" but once I sealed those... I did drill my valve hole to 3/8 just like Stan advises. I couldn't get the rim strip to flatten unless I drilled it. Some people don't drill. Everyone complaining about the price and not getting much think of a better product. If you come up with your own system charge whatever you want. It's still a free country. Stan can charge whatever. Don't buy it if you can't afford it. Tubes are fairly cheap. Anyway just my 2. Email me if you want detailed installation tricks I figured out.
Great product at a great price.
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Submitted by
Marcus Austin
a Cross Country Rider
from Rancho Cucamonga, CA, USA Date Reviewed: August 6, 2006
Favorite Trail:
none
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$75.00
Purchased At:
Competive Edge
Strengths:
Does what it says. I've pulled thorns out of my tires and watched them instantly seal. -Does take a while to install but consider the inconvience of replacing a tube on a trail vs. replacing a little bit of air with this kit.
Weaknesses:
-First time installation can be a little time consuming, but do it once and it's a breeze any other time. -Price is a little steep considering what your getting. But the liquid refills are more reasonable. -will not seal cuts as well as punctures. I got a small slit in my tire and it did seal it but on another ride I came down hard on the tire and the same slit blew out. -Liquid needs refilled about ever 3 months(Good news is you can purchase an injector to fill it through the valve vs. breaking the bead)
Similar Products Used:
None
Bike Setup:
Cannondale Rush 400
Bottom Line:
I would recommend this to anyone who does a lot of riding. Don't let the installation process steer you away..visit this page for video clips on the install as well as demonstrations on the product http://www.notubes.com/support_movies.php I don't know about all rims but I use a floor pump on mine with little problems. Some times it won't take air but smack the tire a little while pumping and it should seal enough to take air.
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Submitted by
Gary
a Cross Country Rider
from West Texas Date Reviewed: July 19, 2006
Favorite Trail:
XC
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$50.00
Purchased At:
online
Strengths:
NO flats since installation. None. Can run lower tire pressure. Lighter system than tubes with slime.
Weaknesses:
Installation a bit messy. Floor pump not adequate for most new tire mounts. Sealant must be replenished.
Similar Products Used:
None.
Bike Setup:
NRS1.
Bottom Line:
Tires successfully used with Stan's: Hutchinson Python, Mosquito, Bulldog. Riding in west Texas means anything green has thorns attached. Lots of rocks. After installing Stan's I have experienced NO flats. That in inself justifies the price and effort of installation. OBSERVATIONS: 1. An irregular cut from glass etc. may not seal reliably - at least not as good as a round puncture from a thorn. 2. Mounting a new tire using a floor pump, especially one that has been folded or rolled, seems easier if the tire is first mounted with a tube for several hours. This "premounting" straightens out some of the kinks.
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Submitted by
Larry Ginzkey
a Cross Country Rider
from Denver, Colorado, USA Date Reviewed: May 19, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Monarch Crest, Colorado
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$57.00
Purchased At:
by mail from Stan's
Strengths:
* great thorn protection * much better traction at lower PSI * can ride faster & brake harder * cushier ride because tires don't bounce off rocks * don't rip side knobbies from tire because of lower PSI
Weaknesses:
* expensive for what you get * messy set-up * must replenish fluid in tire periodically * may not work with all rims and/or tires * can be a chore to clean rims to install new tires.
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
Santa Cruz "Superlite" w Sun Rhyno-lite rims & IRC Mythos tires. Ellsworth "Truth" with Mavic 717 rims & WTB Epic Wolf tires.
Bottom Line:
ENDORSEMENT: I give Stan's a qualified "thumbs up." But as you can see from these reviews, this product is not for everyone. RIDING STYLE: I ride aggressive cross-country trails all over Colorado and around Moab. I ride hard & fast, but prefer to keep my wheels on the ground. I weigh 175 lbs. My bikes weigh in around 27 lbs. EXPERIENCE WITH STAN'S: The WTB Epic Wolf tires were a snap to convert, even using a hand pump. The IRC Mythos were a lot more hassle and required a compressor. As stated, using Stan's can get messy, so don't install in your living room! I used to run my tires at 45-50 PSI to avoid pinch flats (which caused some really painful crashes), but didn't like the way the tires bounced around on rough trails or the fact that I frequently ripped the side knobbies off the tires. Now that I run at 30 PSI, the climbing traction is vastly improved, as is the ride quality. I feel I can ride faster and brake harder. There are trails around Denver loaded with goatheads, and I would almost always get flats riding them. Not any more, thanks to Stan's. Where I used to go through 4-6 tubes a year, now I use none. I have had no problems with tires "burping" or coming off the rims. My tires last longer because I'm not ripping the knobbies off. I have had no problem with the tires leaking air or the sidewalls blistering. Overall, I'm pleased with Stan's, but wish it were less expensive.
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Submitted by
John Rantz
a Weekend Warrior
from Lubbock, TX USA Date Reviewed: April 21, 2006
Favorite Trail:
porupine rim - MOAB
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$55.00
Purchased At:
Stan's
Strengths:
My pals and I switched to Stan's NoTube systems 4 weeks ago with the hope that we would reduce the number of flats and tube replacements we've been experiencing over the past several years. Our trails in West Texas are rocky with quite a lot of cactus and mesquite tree exposure. A bad combination for fallen riders and tubed tires. We've each probably gone thru 6-8 tubes per year (these were heavy tubes with the green stuff in them) and were getting exasperated with the frequency of flats when we heard about NoTubes.com. A week after switching we made our annual pilgrimage to Moab and after riding several of our favorite trails and really punishing our bikes and tires we unanimously agreed Stan's really Rocks. However the real testimonial comes from our ride this past Wednesday. It was a relatively cool day and our group was about half way through our ride when we found our trail blocked by a large Western Diamondback Rattler. As I tried to coax this 5 foot beauty off the trail she struck my front tire not once but twice with her venomous fangs, banging hard against the warm rubber of the tire on my front wheel. In seconds the hefty snake moved from the trail to allow our passage and despite the bites to the tire NoTubes came thru, sealed the holes and kept me going. Not only does your system hold up to nails, spikes, spokes, etc... it will also withstand the wrath of a pit viper should a rider ever be so unfortunate.
Weaknesses:
Difficulty getting the tires to seal completely the first few days after installation.
Similar Products Used:
None
Bike Setup:
Kona Kikapu
Bottom Line:
Great product so far. Suggested users: those who routinely ride near cacti, mesquite, or rattlesnakes! Time will tell on the longevity of the product.
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Submitted by
Mike
a Weekend Warrior
from Orange County Date Reviewed: April 3, 2006
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$50.00
Purchased At:
LBS
Strengths:
It Does what it says
Weaknesses:
None Yet
Similar Products Used:
Slime
Bike Setup:
Trek Liquid 55
Bottom Line:
To address the comments below....Gee, why would Kenda or any other tire manufacturer be upset/non-endorsive of a product that makes you buy less of their tires? I don't know. Kenda specifically addresses their concerns on their website, because in Stan's Video Demo's he uses Kenda Tires. They're stating they don't reccomend the product because of threefold: One you but less tires (They last longer now), Two what if you want replicate the results (They don't want anything to do with it), Three Safety liability (They do not want to brought into a lawsuit and disclaimers/disclosure is the cheapest legal defense out there)
Bottom-Line is it works...For those that did NOT get it to work, I'm taking the gamble that they go impatient and did not go through the neccessary steps to make Stan's really seat in properly and then test it with the soap/water.
Great Product, wish it was cheaper.
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Submitted by
BobL
a Cross Country Rider
from Orange County, CA Date Reviewed: March 31, 2006
Favorite Trail:
San Juan, Noble, Merrill
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$60.00
Purchased At:
LBS
Strengths:
Less flats, can be lighter than tubes, less rolling resistance
Weaknesses:
$$$, DOES NOT WORK W/ ALL TIRES/RIMS
Similar Products Used:
Slime tubes
Bike Setup:
Blur LT, 519's on Kings; Superlights (2)w/ 717's on Kings.
Bottom Line:
First, as this is a consumer review, it is subjective, just as all the other reviews are. Subject to MY riding style, equipment preferences, local terrain, etc, etc. So for all the prima dona know-it-all's that like to bag on other folks reviews, I have your bag... Now, both my gal and I have been running Stans since the system 1st came out. We tried ghetto versions as well (not all good). We both ran Stans on a 200+ mile, 6 day mtb trip w/ racks and panniers on our Superlights across SW CO into Moab. I got major punctures on rear tire, spun it 'till they sealed, pumped it up and kept riding, (VERY GOOD, considering the rack and pannier sitch). Neither of us had a flat the whole trip.(We both ran Velociraptors F & R) I decided to run a Weirwolf 2.3 later and had major problems with it rolling off the rim, even at higher pressures. Broke my finger (Very bad). Put tire on gal's bike, never a problem. (bottom line: rider weight and terrain MATTERS) I have begun using Kenda tires, because they work good for my style and terrain. They don't work that good with Stans, as I have to run a tube in the Kinetics rear (it just won't stay on the rim w/ stans, even w/ extra rim strip material) Also, if you have a sidewall rupture, things get messy!Stans won't fix it, but a needle and thread with a tube will (I have had several). And when it comes time to change out a tire, it's no easy chore to clean the semi-dried schmegma off the strips, and be careful of certain schmegmalenes: mek and tolulene remove dried latex, but eat skin, rubber and brain cells. Best to use elbow grease, soap and a Scotchbrite pad (and a little Scotch, too) A friend just went with the MAXIS rim strips (5 bucks each!) and my ghetto version of sealant: Modeling latex slightly diluted w/ distilled H2O and a little bit of plastic glitter( all available at a crafts store). It's been working GREAT for him for about 4 months now. I will try the MAXIS rim strips when I waste a Stans (does happen), cheaper AND works with Kenda's. Bottom Line: Stans is a good product, but IMO, way over priced, considering what's on the market (MAXIS strips). The sealant works well w/ UST, but the entire system DOES NOT WORK WITH ALL TIRES/RIMS. And if you don't like following directions, don't bother with it. Most folks (me too) have to view the online video, etc to get it right with certain circumstances. And you will need a compressor or a case of CO2 carts. to get the initial inflation right. Last but not least: if you are over 200lbs and like really rocky steep stuff, it might not be for you. If you are a stick legged NORBA flyweight, it's probably just the ticket for avoiding flats on a course. It's also great for fiance's who hate changing flats ("Honey!!! Can you come back here???") Research this site, and NoTubes.com. If it looks like it will work,get some for you or your gal but read and follow the directions. If not, don't blow the money; 65 bucks is a heckava good bottle of Singlemalt! 2 value flames 'cause imo, it's overpriced.
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Submitted by
Dewayne Wallace
a Cross Country Rider
from Lubbock, Texas,USA Date Reviewed: March 23, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Porcupine rim Utah
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$60.00
Purchased At:
Stans
Strengths:
NEVER had a flat yet. Low weight and rolling resistance. Seals all punctures.
Weaknesses:
Non. Weakness is usually the ride not follwing the instructions or letting fluid dry up.
Similar Products Used:
Slime tubes.
Bike Setup:
Bike one: Fisher Sugar; XT, etc. Bike two: Giant Faith; All the goodies.
Bottom Line:
Pay attention to mounting and keep fluid level up. Great product. In the first six months I saved enough in tubes to pay for system.( West Texas goatheads,catus and mesquite thorns.)
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Dewayne Wallace
a Cross Country Rider
from Lubbock, Texas,USA Date Reviewed: March 23, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Porcupine rim Utah
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$60.00
Purchased At:
Stans
Strengths:
NEVER had a flat yet. Low weight and rolling resistance. Seals all punctures.
Weaknesses:
Non. Weakness is usually the ride not follwing the instructions or letting fluid dry up.
Similar Products Used:
Slime tubes.
Bike Setup:
Bike one: Fisher Sugar; XT, etc. Bike two: Giant Faith; All the goodies.
Bottom Line:
Pay attention to mounting and keep fluid level up. Great product. In the first six months I saved enough in tubes to pay for system.( West Texas goatheads,catus and mesquite thorns.)
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dave
a Cross Country Rider
from boise Date Reviewed: February 17, 2006
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$54.00
Purchased At:
pricepoint
Strengths:
excellent support and installation info online, great sealing capabilitie, much lower costs not buying ust wheels, many more choices of tires.
Weaknesses:
none, if you follow the instrutions.
Similar Products Used:
ust set up with sealant and bontrager sealant with stans rim strips/coventional wheels
Bike Setup:
2005 ibex hard tail with mavic rims and xt hubs.2001 fuel 90 with ust crossland wheels, stans sealant, 2005 santacruz heckler being built up with stans conversion.
Bottom Line:
I have compared the performance of stans tubeless system to a U.S.T. set up for over two years and find that they are both good, I use stans sealant on my ust wheels, there can be substantial weight savings if a lighter tire/wheel is used with stans, it is so cool to use an light race tire with stans conversion on my hard tail, it climbs so fast! the only drawback with stans is that it takes a bit of research to find a tire that does not have a weak bead that could blow off the rim this is really not to much of an issue anyway if you do not inflate over 40 psi, who would want to? the traction is so much better with lower pressures and the wheels are not deflecting because a rock hard tire bouncing off everything.The issue of the sealant ruining tires has not been an issue with me, I put 2500 miles on a set of hutchinson pythons with no issues and so far no failures with the hutchinson spiders with about 1000 miles, I think the tire manufacturers are just trying to push their own sealants. With UST system it is much more difficult to mount tire however I do find they are easier to inflate and the tires are bullet proof and you could inflate over 40 psi if need be, the only ust wheels I can afford are the Mavic crosslands which have held up very well, their other wheels cost way too much for me, I have decided to go with Stans for my new Heckler I am building up and using a really beefy non ust tire.I would NEVER go back to tubes, thorn and pinch flats are a non-issue.
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trail548 trail548
a Cross Country Rider
from l.a. Date Reviewed: February 13, 2006
Favorite Trail:
rocky peak
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$80.00
Purchased At:
lbs
Strengths:
usage of low tire pressure, no tubes , more comfort , better traction, will seal if loss of air.
Weaknesses:
for the time i have been using it , so far , that said i wish i could use my favortie tire fire xc pro 2.1 on website it is not recommended for use with kit.
$ 57.00
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