Niner's totally redesigned for 2009 popular trail bike gets huge upgrades from 1st generation to create the stiffest, most technologically advanced 4.5" 29er on the market today.
1.5 Tapered head tube
Internal FSA headset (included) keeps front end low
Massive hydro formed tubing creates super stiff yet still light frameset
1 piece linkages are super stiff and strong
12mm MAXLE as well as Rohloff rear end compatibility
Submitted by
ridelikeafatkid
a Weekend Warrior
from san antonio texas usa Date Reviewed: November 15, 2009
Favorite Trail:
flat rock ranch
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$3900.00
Purchased At:
the bicycle shack
Strengths:
it will go where you point it no matter where you point it!
Weaknesses:
rear end flex
Similar Products Used:
first dual suspension for me
Bike Setup:
f-29 up front, spinergy xyclone disc, sram x-7 front and rear, and still running tubes.
Bottom Line:
I am in love with this bike! I am 6'2" and 250 with gear on, so the rear end flex is going to happen no matter the frame I ride, but I stopped several times on the Madrone trail to check for a rear flat...it is that flexy for a big guy. If given the chance, I would buy the bike again! BUT if you are a clyde like me, just be ready for the flex. I have several friends that are my height, but are only around 180 to 210, and they say the rear end is rock solid for them, so maybe it is 230ish where the flex comes in to play. I got the close-out on the 09 where they threw in the fork for free, so it truly is an AMAZING value!
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Submitted by
panzer07
a Weekend Warrior
from Fremont CA USA Date Reviewed: October 14, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Toads
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1750.00
Purchased At:
jet nine replacement
Strengths:
no flex chassis, super stiff, killer looking frame, handles perfect, very plush and can take a big hit, climbs really good despite weight, nice black anno finish
Weaknesses:
frame is a bit heavy but a fair trade for such a stiff 29' frame
Similar Products Used:
Jet9, Rockhopper29, Nomad, Blur, Superlight, Ellsworth Truth
Bike Setup:
09 medium - me 5'11', Fox F100mm fork, XT drivetrain, Stans ZTR355 rims with King hubs, Race Face Dues cranks with King bottom bracket, Easton monkey bars and seat post Avid juicy7 brakes - 28lbs
Bottom Line:
Got this frame as a recall replacement for my 09 Jet9 from Niner and could not be happier. The Jet9 was a flexy noodle compared to this frame and was only 1.5 lbs less. The new and improved 09 Rip9 just does everything great so be sure to put some grippy tires on because you can get in over your head in a hurry with the blistering downhill speeds. Niner recomends 120mm fork but works just fine with 100mm. Great do it all bike the fun meter is off the charts!
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Submitted by
BoomingSooner
a Weekend Warrior
from Edmond, OK USA Date Reviewed: September 12, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Palo Duro Canyon, The Womble
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1700.00
Purchased At:
Wheeler Dealer
Strengths:
Cush!
Cornering
Speed
Ability to handle tons of different things.
Weaknesses:
6.5 lb frame...Not really a weakness, but it is all I can come up with.
Similar Products Used:
Came from a 2008 HT Fisher G2 to this.
Bike Setup:
2x9 Truvativ OCT
SRAM x.0 twisters
SRAM x.9 RD
Truvativ world champion carbon bars
Bonty wheelset Tubless with Kenda Nevegal front, Bonty Jones rear
Thomson elite post w/ WTB SLT Rocket seat
Bottom Line:
This bike is EXACTLY what I wanted. I'm 40 and ride lots of rooty trails and wanted the extra cushion of this vs a JET. I'm tons faster than I was on a HT (I know that sounds weird) but when you can pedal over roots and bumps vs lift your arse and hit it, you go faster.
If you want a bike that can go AM, race on the weekends, take drops and keep rolling, the RIP is for you.
I was playing around in the front yard yesterday. I could hit a curb at 12 miles an hour, slightly lift the front end and sit while the back end directly into the curb and feel almost NOTHING! And I checked the shock "ring" and it only was taking about 60% of the total travel. 5 inch curb btw.
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Submitted by
aggrosex
a Cross Country Rider
from Honey Brook,Pa., USA Date Reviewed: August 29, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Middlerun/whiteclay,De
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$3400.00
Purchased At:
LBS Shirks east earl
Strengths:
Climber with no problem in the saddle and the rear suspen. wide open, hugs the trail, 29er, weight (also a con),cock pit comfortable
Weaknesses:
over the handle bars a little - chain in the frame,weight (i wish it weight less but what can you ask for in a 29er, i rode a GF HI Pro and is was lighter but it felt weaker)
Similar Products Used:
None - '08 trek 69er and a K2 ZED 4
Bike Setup:
Niner flattop
Juicy carbons
bont. race post and saddle
xt RD
xt crank st
X7 RD
Stans ARCH XTR Wheel set and hubs(tubless)
Bottom Line:
I need more time on the bike - to real the true power of this machine - it has been raining weekly in Pa. and we can't get a dry trail ride in - DAMN IT!!!!!!!
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Submitted by
Afterdarkza
a Cross Country Rider
from South Africa Date Reviewed: August 13, 2009
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Great handler.
Good balance.
Excellent climber.
Steady on the downhills.
Weaknesses:
Slightly slower than previous model.
Similar Products Used:
Niner Rip9 - 2008 model.
Bike Setup:
Stock standard with XT components all round.
Bottom Line:
I rode a Rip 2008 model for about a year. During this time I was on the bike on average 5 times a week. And used it on every road and trail I could find. Three weeks ago I received a shiny new 2009 model (and it is the most beautiful machine since red Ferraris). But since this bike was not going to be a display model I was quite keen to get out on the road in order to compare the new one to my experiences with the previous RIP. The previous bike was awesome; so I had high expectations.
For the last three weeks I've basically been trying out all my favourite local routes. Down in this part of the world the tracks are hard, rocky with lots of gravel and sand thrown in to keep a mtbiker humble. So the bike better be a quality build to survive in lion country.
Well how did it perform you might wonder by this time. Let's start with cons first. It seems slightly slower than previous Rip. With the 2008 RIP I could hammer down open roads and make the flyboys on their carbon bikes work for their prize money. But the loss of speed might also be more me and the temptations of winter eating.
But what's lacking in the speed at this time, it sure makes up in the handling department. The old Rip was slightly slow on the turns, especially on singletracks. It didn’t always like to be handled at slow speeds. The new bike is brilliantly balanced. It is nippy through the turns and well behaved at slow speeds.
There are two specific sections on my trail that always got the better of me. The one a very technical rocky section with a few turns thrown in to break your momentum. On a 26" I couldn’t get past the first part, with the old Rip I got halfway up and got stuck on the rocks. And when I say rocks I do not mean the pebbles that would give a roadie sleepless nights. On the first attempt I went further than before but got stuck almost at the end. But sensing that this was the day for greatness; I went at it again and behold, smiles all round and I could do my little victory dance with some bemused zebra as onlookers.
The second section was dreamt up by some mountain climbers who probably used it as training grounds for Mr Everest.
This part is a very steep climb with loose gravel and slippery rocks. With the old Rip I could ride to the top once; after several attempts - the new one, yeah you guessed it, no problem, tried it three times; got up three times. So now I have to go look for new challenges on my trail.
In short - an awesome bike that has got good composure, with great handling thrown in; in short a totally fun bike. It will take you places that your buddy probably would not attempt with his jeep.
Summer is coming on this side and that means a lot more ride time - come on summer.
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Submitted by
LeftyMax
a Cross Country Rider
from Dalton, PA Date Reviewed: August 6, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Bull Hill at L.S.P.
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
New Milford Bike Sho
Strengths:
Rolls much smoother than any 26er, rear suspension geometry, climbing, riding position
Weaknesses:
Acceleration on short steep inclines (a 29er thing), BB clerance
Similar Products Used:
None, first 29er
Can't compare to a C'Dale Jekyll, and a Prophet
Bottom Line:
My bottom line is of the RIP 9 as compared to a single pivot 26er.
This bike provides a very active suspension throughout all the gearing ratios, with the suspension remaining active during breaking also. The suspension incorporates very little chain take up (basically none at all) upon suspension compression. The bike is a great climber due to the 29er wheel, but does suffer in acceleration when a short fast burst of speed is needed instantly.
The riding position is a much more upright riding position than my previous bikes and is much more comfortable, at least for me. I do not get feeling of sticking a front wheel as much as my 26ers did eventhough the head angle is steeper on the rIP 9.
The BB is lower in the geometry allowing for easier tracksdanding and low speed handling, but with the lower BB it does take some time to get used pedal timing for items on the trail so as not to smashing the pedals during pedaling through rock gardens, log overs, etc.
If you are looking for a bike to ride rockey, rootey, technical trails all day long and not get beat up, then this is the bike for you ! BUY IT, you will not regret it.
If you want a light, fast accelerating XC race bike then forget it, this is not for you.
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Submitted by
Sir Glide Bike
a Weekend Warrior
from Wilmington NC Date Reviewed: July 13, 2009
Favorite Trail:
All of them
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$1850.00
Purchased At:
Bike Cycles
Strengths:
Improved stiffness over 06-08 RIP Great suspension design CVA works better than any other design I have tried Vpp, DW and FSR. Pedals great in all gears active during braking and pedaling and smooooth!!!!
Weaknesses:
Not enough time to ride it. Makes me want to move to The Rockies.
Similar Products Used:
Turner Sultan, Specialized 29er and Pivot 29er
Bike Setup:
Fox Fit 120mm though axle, RaceFace Deuce 170mm cranks, Sram X-9, Avid Elixir C brakes, Stan's Flows tubeless w Hope II hubs. Kenda Nevagals
Bottom Line:
All around fun bike to ride it does everything good and climbs great. I love seeking out tough technical climbs especially ones that other can't make. Also now on the descents I am challenging myself as the front end is much stiffer with the 1 1/2" head tube and through axle. And it drops pretty good to. Its the best deal going as compared to the other 29Er's less than both the Turner and the Pivot
and more technology, even has cable routing for a Gravity Dropper Seat Post. Integrated headset is included makes assemble a breeze. Workmanship is top notch everything lines up and threads in with ease. The interchangeable drop outs are a nice touch, converts from 10mm quick release to 12mm Maxle to further stiffen up rear end. I recommend this to anyone who wants ride epic big rides or love to tackle tough climbs and club races.
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Submitted by
ron hans erez
a Cross Country Rider
from israel Date Reviewed: July 8, 2009
Favorite Trail:
ben shemen
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$4250.00
Purchased At:
niner israel
Strengths:
seating position very safe and easy to handle , moving very fast great on climbing pedaling is amazing .
Weaknesses:
the chain can get inside frame
Similar Products Used:
specialized 29 and rocky mountain and specialized endouro sl
It really great great bike , good for everything xc and mountain all my friends see only my back since i bought this bike . I still have specialized enduro sl 2008 but really you can not compare the bikes every thing i did with my 6" endoro i do better with my rip . The big wheels and the perfect frame with 120 mm front fork and 4.5 suspension travel rear give you a bike that you really can do every thing more fast and safety to other bikes.
This bike rip 9 i think is the best best bikes for riders the ride xc and mountain and singals who like to enjoy the riding
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Submitted by
splice35mm
a Cross Country Rider
from Simi Valley, CA Date Reviewed: June 2, 2009
2007 RIP 9, Gary Fisher 293, Gary FIsher Supercaliber 29er, Intense 5.5, Santa Cruz Blur, Trek Fuel
Bike Setup:
Shimano XT and XTR mix, Avid Juicys, Maverick DUC 32, Chris King
Bottom Line:
I rode the original RIP 9 for a few years and really loved it. I wasn't sure if upgrading to the 2009 would be worthwhile, but it definitely is. I love the new RIP! Am I able to notice the stiffer BB and head tube?... YES. Do I notice the subtle geometry changes?... well.... I think so. Immediately when I threw a leg over this bike it felt like home. Maybe I'm just "new bike happy", but everything seems better. It feels more solid to me, probably because it is. I just can't say enough good things about this bike. Highly recommend it!!!
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Submitted by
dsnow23
a Cross Country Rider
from Mill Valley, CA Date Reviewed: May 22, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Skeggs Point
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$3500.00
Purchased At:
Summit Cycles
Strengths:
Climbs great, Descends great, handles better than i thought possible.
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
My only 29er, but I've had numerous other double boingers. Turner Burner, Specialized Pitch Pro, Yeti 575, Ibis Szazbo.
Bike Setup:
Niner RIP9 2008 - Large
Manitou Minute 120TA
WTB laser disc super duty/Stan's Flow Wheels
Sram X9 trigger shifters
Shimano xt front derailleur
Sram X0 rear derailleur
Truvative Stylos
Eggbeaters
Niner flat Bar
Juicy 7s
WTB Pure V Niner saddle
Raceface Post
Cane Creek headset
RaceFace stem
Panaracer Rampage 2.35s front and rear
Bottom Line:
I've had this bike for about 2 months now and I absolutely love it. With every other mountain bike I've ever owned, there has always been SOMETHING that I felt was a shortcoming. I thought climbing with the same gearing as a 26er would be a problem, but it isn't. And, I thought switchbacks would be a problem, but they aren't. I'm 6'2 and 200 pounds and I haven't noticed any of the flex others have mentioned. It rolls over small to medium sized rocks like they aren't even there. The CVA suspension design is awesome. There is very little bobbing. The Fox RP23 and the Manitou Minute 120 work like Champs.
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Submitted by
hogprint
a Cross Country Rider
from Madison, WI Date Reviewed: May 17, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Blue Mounds SP
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$650.00
Purchased At:
brand new frame only
Strengths:
Nimble handling, sublime suspension, the momentum of the 29er wheel
Weaknesses:
Does not pedal itself
Similar Products Used:
Santa Cruz Blur Classic
Bike Setup:
2008 Final version RIP 9, I9 enduro wheels, Fox F29 120, XO/XTR drive, Hope Tech M4 disc brakes, Chris King BB and HS, Race Face Deus XC crank.
Bottom Line:
This bike has transformed my riding. Total confidence in all situations. I am a father of two young boys thus I do not get to ride as much as the good old days and the RIP allows me to ride as I remembered I could. It really is a beautifully designed full suspension bike. I could not detect any rear suspension feedback from either pedaling or braking. Truly unreal. At 220 lbs and 6"1" I am no lightweight and I could not detect any of the "flex" you read about. I tend to remain within a foot or two of the ground, far from an all mountain type rider. This bike is a perfect replacement for my trusty old Blur. Completely satisfied by this bike.
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Submitted by
bicycle convert
a Cross Country Rider
from Dallas, TX Date Reviewed: May 3, 2009
Favorite Trail:
The one I'm on
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$4000.00
Purchased At:
www.wrenchscience.co
Strengths:
2009 RIP 9, Frame build quality is extremely high. Excellent for large riders. Ride quality.
Weaknesses:
None Yet
Similar Products Used:
Giant NRS XTC for the past 7 years
Bike Setup:
Fox, King, Thomson, XT, Magura, Noir, Syntace
Bottom Line:
I have been riding seriously for the past 17 years. At 6'6" and 220lb, I have never really found a bike that fits me right, until now. This bike is the best I've ever owned. The geometry is excellent. This is the first bike that I can say really has made me a better rider. People say 29ers are slow and non-responsive with handling and acceleration. That is simply not the case with the new RIP. If your looking for an all day, go anywhere bike this is it. I can't imagine anything better for multi-hour events.
Also want to give a shout out to the guys at www.wrenchscience.com if you are looking for a custom build these guys will get the job done for a very fair price. Their passion for bikes is very clear with the quality of their work.
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Submitted by
IcemanSS454
a Cross Country Rider
from Pensacola, FL Date Reviewed: April 17, 2009
Just plain awesome bike. Took a ride or two to get the rear shock right. I have a RP23 on my Santa Cruz Heckler so for my first ride I tried to ride the RIP at the same shock pressure which was way to much. However, with a quick adjustment the bike transformed into something amazing.
The bike disappears beneath you. I've never gone through a ride before and thought so little about the bike underneath me and thats a good thing. It inspires so much confidence that I have no complaints. On my most recent ride I was on a trail I'd never ridden with a group of fast guys. I was working as hard as I could to keep up on the technical parts of the trail. The RIP's predictable handling saved me from a few spills. I wouldn't have wanted to be on any other bike.
Some people mention flex in the rear end which I haven't noticed but I am only 5'10" and weigh 150 so I am not putting much load on the bike.
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Submitted by
pinkheadedbug
a Cross Country Rider
from Ontario, Canada Date Reviewed: February 23, 2009
Favorite Trail:
3-Stage, Kolapore, Thunder Mountain, Porc. Rim
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$1500.00
Purchased At:
Bike 29
Strengths:
Do-everything bike. Fast uphill and downhill, excels on tech chunk, drops etc, can be ridden all day, the bike that everybody loves when they ride it. Best I've ever ridden.
Weaknesses:
Nothing major.
Similar Products Used:
Niner SIR9, Misfit diSSent, Commencal Meta 5.2, bunch of other stuff.
Bike Setup:
X9 drivertrain with XT crankset and AmClassic wheels.
Bottom Line:
This is an update to my earlier review (posted under 'John Brownlow' below). I've now ridden this bike for 2 years and several thousand KM. It's been to Moab and BC and tackled Slickrock, Porcupine Rim, Mount 7 and pretty much every kind of trail from hub-deep mud to snow to desert sand. It's been abused in pretty much every way you can imagine and rebuilt from the bearings up twice.
It still rocks.
This bike made me a better rider. I rode stuff I could never have imagined and it never let me down. If you have the confidence to ride it, this bike will get you over/through it. You will not regret buying it.
I built this with AmClassic wheels, which I really like, but the bike leads you to tackle harsher and harsher trails and the wheels are starting to feel like the weak link. I've watched them bend a couple of times and thought they were going to taco but they never did. To their credit, they've never even needed so much as a spoke tightening, but one of these days I'm going to destroy them on this frame.
All the strengths are outlined in other reviews and in my original report. I'll go into the minor quibbles I have here.
First, the bearings are not the greatest. Mine lasted 18 months until one hub-deep mud ride when they seized and I had to replace them. No biggie, but the linkage has a lot of pieces and is fiddly to rebuild. This is solved in the 09 version.
Second, flex. Others have mentioned this. I didn't feel it until I went to Moab. On those superchunk trails, or on spines or hard switchbacks, you can kind of feel the bike winding up. The AmClassics amplify this. As a result at slow speeds you can find tech sections harder than they seem at high speed. I believe this has also been solved in the 09 version. It is NOT a big deal in the 07 unless you are riding Porcupine Rim or similar trails frequently.
The chain slap that others have mentioned is completely cured by an inner tube wrapped around the drive side chainstay and secured with zip ties.
I have been running a 100mm fork but I think the bike really needs 120mm.
I will be retiring my 07 this year and investing in an 09, mostly for the flex and simpler linkage (and better bearings I believe). Probably a stiffer wheelset too, although I love the way the AmClassics ride.
I literally haven't considered another bike. This is The One.
5 chilis overall, and 5 for value because despite the price, you'll keep this a long time.
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Submitted by
BWG
a Cross Country Rider
from Louisville Date Reviewed: February 23, 2009
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
Suspension design,anodized finish,geometry.
Weaknesses:
Some rear-end flex from linkage - NOT significant to ride quality/handling.
Clydsdale-specific: WB Fluid 135 TA,large air canister on rear Fox RP3 shock,X9/X0 drivetrain,Formula The One brakes,36-spoke Rhyno-lite rims on Hope Pro II TA front and 10mm bolt-on rear hubs.
Bottom Line:
The best bike I have owned so far. I own a medium version 1 frame and have had absolutely no issues with strength and design. I have had great customer service from the folks at Niner and this is my third Niner frame.
The only reason I would sell this frame would be to get the new '09 RIP9 - but I'm going to stick with my '07 for now.
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Submitted by
gonsorellie
a Cross Country Rider
from Aliso Viejo, CA Date Reviewed: February 18, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Blackstar/Silverado
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$3000.00
Purchased At:
The Path
Strengths:
Balanced ride with a high speed rolling feel that is confidence inspiring. Incredible climbing capabilities and down hill screamer.
Weaknesses:
n/a at this time.
Similar Products Used:
Salsa Mamasita
Bike Setup:
Avid Juicy 7, Kenda Nevegal front & Small Block 8 rear, SRAM X9, Thompson stem/seatpost, Salsa Pro Moto bar, WTB Rocket, Crane Creek hadset and Ergo Control II bar ends
Bottom Line:
It exceeded my expectations and makes me ride like I'm better than I am. It climbs marvelously, especially on long fire road climbs and I was surprised how well it handled on technical rocky sections.
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Submitted by
Chris Klein
a Cross Country Rider
from Bella Vista, Arkansas Date Reviewed: January 31, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Slaughter Pen
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$2800.00
Purchased At:
MOJO Sports
Strengths:
Nice Design, Great Customer Service, Attention to detail, & well built
Weaknesses:
Juicy 7 Brakes SUCK!!!!They were removed after 1st ride. Flat Bars(jury is still out), X9 Shifters...might as well run all X0 for what you pay for the bike. 120mm Fork - it need more travel.
Similar Products Used:
Cannondale Caff 29er, Trek, Redline Mono
Bike Setup:
Shimano 4 Piston, X0 X9 drive train, Stans Rims, WTB Hubs, Race Face Stem and Seat Post, WTB Seat, Panaracer Tires and Shimano SPD platform pedal
Bottom Line:
I really like the bike. I am tall 6'2" and weigh 250 on a light day. Pedals well and eats up the trail - a little tricky to corner in the beginning but I am learning. This is my 1st 29er and I am very pleased so far. I would like to see more travel in the front but I am probably trying to push to much as my other bike has 7"+ travel with a 888 on the front. The customer service at niner has been great and I can not tell you how much they have impressed me. I am very critical of consumer customer no service and that is why I chose to buy from companies like Niner rather than Specialized or Trek. The guys at Niner answered all of my questions and even called me back to make sure that I got a complete answer. I would give a 5 out of 5 but I have only got to ride a few times so I am still settl'n in. I am a cheap ass by heart and think all bikes are overpriced so I can not give 5 out 5 for that. I know that we all pay for quality but there is a tipping point. I RIDE ALMOST EVERYDAY so it will not take long before I love or hate this bike. Right now we love each other very much.
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Submitted by
Renin
a Weekend Warrior
from Seattle WA Date Reviewed: January 30, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Devils Gulch
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$950.00
Purchased At:
Speedgoat
Strengths:
Smooth and stiff. The CVA Suspension is perfect for someone coming from a hardtail. Pedals very well both in and out of the saddle. Great glow in the dark Atomic Blue color. 4.5 inches of travel feels like more with the 29 inch wheels
Weaknesses:
Lots of pieces in suspension links. The 09 RIP has one piece forged links which should make maintenance and durability much higher. None that I have found as far as the ride is concerned.
Similar Products Used:
Specialized FSR 29er, Cannondale 29er, Ventana El Rey
Bike Setup:
All XT drive train, King Headset, King Hubs with Halo FreedomDisc Rims, Reba Team U-Turn 120mm with Maxle, Thomsom post and stem, Panaracer Rampage 2.35
Bottom Line:
Love the bike. Only a few miles on it so far. I took out the demo bike from Veloce Velo in Issaquah WA a few times (down Preston, St Eds, etc.) to see how the bike handled. All the test rides had me grinning ear to ear, and my own build makes it ride even better. Will post an update in a few month when the miles have piled up.
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Submitted by
schril
a Cross Country Rider
from clio Date Reviewed: January 24, 2009
Favorite Trail:
free beer in truckee, ca
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$2000.00
Purchased At:
craigslist
Strengths:
Very balanced ride, wants to climb like a much lighter bike short travel or hartail bike? Gets rolling very fast and cruises!!!
Weaknesses:
WTB Laser Disc wheelset is flexy.
Similar Products Used:
First 29er and took a gamble based on reviews. The whole concept makes too much sense.
Bike Setup:
Fox RL 29 100mm fork/RP23 shock, Sram xo shifters and rear, XT front and hydrolic brakes, race face stem, bar, post and cranks,wtb laser disc wheelset with dt swiss hubs, maxxis tires, wtb saddle.
Bottom Line:
Whatever Niner has done to tweak the geometry and suspension, they nailed it. This bike is very responsive in tight singletrack and climbs extremely well. It seams to get to speed very quickly on descents, so be ready. I have not had a chance to ride on very technical, rocky terrain yet, but will re-post once doing so.
Anyone looking to buy a new bike should look into these otherwise you may be asleep at the wheel-this is fun technology that realy works.
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Submitted by
Evan
a Weekend Warrior
from San Antonio, TX Date Reviewed: October 23, 2008
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$4500.00
Purchased At:
BICYCLE HEAVEN
Strengths:
Do everything bike. Rolls over stumps and rocks effortlessly. Climbs like a goat. Great downhill. Absolutely flies over rolling, open trails.
Weaknesses:
A little more work in the very tight trees and twisties.
Similar Products Used:
specialized stumpjumper 29, G Fischer 29's, Trek 29 full suspension and rigid rear triangles
Bike Setup:
Full XT including brakes. Specialized tires (both 29s)
Crossmax 29
Bottom Line:
Riding faster through everything from day one. A little learning curve to really rail the corners and find the sweet spot for climbing. So far this bike has held up great, I am a big heavy guy and pretty tough on bikes. Everyone who has tried this bike rides faster and easier from the start. The wheelset is exceptional, there is no problem accelerating, and they track great. Have to go hard on the brakes because I find myself hitting obstacles and technical stuff much faster.
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Submitted by
Smiff48
a Weekend Warrior
from Cape Town, South Africa Date Reviewed: October 12, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Red Route, Knysna forrest
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$3600.00
Purchased At:
Olympic Cycles
Strengths:
Devours the downhills. Rolls over obstacles, both down & uphill, noticeably better than a 26 incher.
Weaknesses:
Not as tight on the sharp cornering as the 26ers. Rock Shox went back twice for warranty repair but now works well.
Olympic did a great job of putting together this bike without over-capitalising on a weekend warrior or compromising on key components. It was a big step up from a non-descript hard tail. After getting the feel of it what I enjoy most about this Niner is bombing downhill with confidence & speed never experienced on any other bike.
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Submitted by
RUNDCM
a Cross Country Rider
from OLNEY MARYLAND USA Date Reviewed: September 22, 2008
Favorite Trail:
THE ONE IM ON
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$4600.00
Purchased At:
NINER
Strengths:
design, geometry, rolls fast , climbs well
Weaknesses:
not sure, maybe a bit slower to snap back on a line.. however I rode a SIR nine recently.
As other have stated this is a FS bike worth consideration. comming off an 26 " i-drive i'll have to say plush but i'm used to that. This ride has 29" advantage feels tighter. I can climb faster, roll faster. been on it only a month - Am taking the corners a bit slower. Not sure what to make of that-still getting used to it, the build is first rate and i think it is on par with nearly anything else out there for the money. Good bike indeed!!
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Dave
a Cross Country Rider
from Richmond, VA Date Reviewed: July 25, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Pisgah NF, Dupont state forest
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Comfy, reasonably light and competitive in price. LOTS of standover room - more than comparable 26ers, way more than the 29ers I checked out.
Weaknesses:
Not a zippy race bike, back end a little flexy at low speeds on technical terrain. The small frame has great standover,but cannot use a water bottle.
Similar Products Used:
Titus and Intense 29er, but only demos
Bike Setup:
XTish, paid extra for light wheels - worth the cost IMHO.Fox 100 (waiting for a 120 talus)
Bottom Line:
Every bike is a compromise. The mtbr shootout described this bike well: a barcalounger for experience riders (i.e, pre-geezers). Well, that's me. Demo'd the titus and Intense 29ers, which are fun and fast, but harsher. Not all day bikes. This is an all day bike. Never feel beat up. If you want comfort and control more than a fast race bike, this bike delivers. If you want lots of standover, this bike delivers again! Only reservations: rear end is a bid flexy at very low speeds, notice this only if it's technical. They could beef it up, but it would weigh more. Like I wrote at the beginning, every bike is a compromise! The small frame doesn't fit a water bottle well enough for practical use. The Medium does, and still has lots of standover. 5 stars for folks like me - experienced former racer, now more interested in exploring and long rides. XC racers, look elsewhere.
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Submitted by
kNohBody
a Downhiller
from Issaquah Date Reviewed: July 15, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Grand Ridge
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1659.00
Purchased At:
outsideoutfitters.co
Strengths:
29er..Strong..more travel than other 29ers..Sexy..
This bike loves to go fast and still HOOKS UP on corners.
American Classic Wheelset, Kenda Nevegal Tires, Chris King headseat, Thompson stem and seatpost, Race Face carbon bar, Time Pedals, Fox F29 32 120mm
Bottom Line:
OutsideOutfitters.com beat everyones price and even threw in a pair of Nevegals.
I'm short, 5'8" and the Small R.I.P. fits me perfect.
I rode a Stumpjumper for 6 years, then jumped on the 29er band-wagon with the S.I.R...I've got to say that the singlespeed / steel was fun, but I'm a full suspension type of guy...I ride twice as fast with suspension.
The R.I.P. is the best Full Suspension 29er. Hands-down.
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Submitted by
Lyle
a Cross Country Rider
from Marquette, MI, USA Date Reviewed: June 3, 2008
Favorite Trail:
South Trails, MQT, MI
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$4000.00
Purchased At:
Down Wind Sports
Strengths:
handles great, strong climber and very stable at speed looks great!
Weaknesses:
no major the rear triangle has a spot just behind the front derailler that loves to hold leaves, annoying to ride down the trail w/ your bike sounding like you have baseball cards in your spokes, kind of hard to reach and pull them out unless riding on really smooth trail
Similar Products Used:
first 29er, last bike Santa Cruz Heckler
Bike Setup:
blue; fox front fork, XO shifter, XTR derailleur in front, x-9 in back, monkey lite riser bars, race face cranks and bottom bracket, crossmax wheels, hayes stoker brakes
Bottom Line:
this bikes loves to run; on long downhills the hands get sore from gripping brakes to keep the speed down; very stable at speed and plenty nimble thru tight spots. great traction for climbing and I find it easier to stand up for climbing than any other bike I've had
get LOTS of positive compliments on the looks and the friends I've let ride it rave as well. I loved my Heckler for 3 years, but after riding the RIP9 for a month I can't bear to be on the old one- it doesn't feel right
I strongly recommend for anyone who likes long cross country rides on variable terrain
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Matt
a Cross Country Rider
from Washington DC Date Reviewed: February 25, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Richmond Xterra Trails
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1560.00
Purchased At:
The Bike Lane Burke VA
Strengths:
Size is great for someone 6'4" or taller.
The suspension can not be beat
Weaknesses:
After one ride I can not find one
Bike Setup:
XT Cranks X-9 Shifter and Rear Derailleur Thompson Stem and Seatpost Rock Shock Reba SL fork Avid Jucy-5’s XT Hubs Stans Arch Rims Specialized Captain Tires
Bottom Line:
The Build
I built the bike with components that seemed to be the best Value before stepping up to stuff that cost twice as much with little performance gain.
XT Cranks X-9 Shifter and Rear Derailleur Thompson Stem and Seatpost Rock Shock Reba SL fork Avid Jucy-5’s XT Hubs Stans Arch Rims Specialized Captain
The bike was delayed a bit, so Brian and I built it up of Friday Feb 15th. The build went well except for the front derailleur not fitting properly, so we had to buy a different one last minute from Revolution.
We finished the bike around 10pm and it weighed in at 30.5 lbs with pedals
The Ride
The first ride was around Brian’s Apt complex. There are some steep grassy hills and curbs to hop around the Apt. The bike immediately felt great. At 6’4” the XL RIP9 seemed like it was built for me.
My first real ride was the following day down in Richmond on the Buttermilk and North Bank Trails. The bike absolutely shined on these trails. There are plenty of climbs and technical descents, both of which the Niner handled perfectly.
I really found the bike to be very stable and I had plenty of confidence to lean the bike into turns harder than I ever did on my 26 inch bike.
Before Riding the RIP 9, I would have told you that the best full suspension design was the DW-Link offered on the IBIS and BMC Four Stroke. It does such a great job at soaking up little rocks and roots without any pedal bob. The RIP9 seems so be as good if not better than the BMC’s suspension. I never felt any drawbacks of having rear suspension, yet I could continue to stay seated and spin my legs through bumpy rock gardens.
One of my biggest concerns with getting a 29er was that I was afraid I would climb slower. This is definitely not the case as I seemed to make up climbs I could not previously make. Part of this is definitely because I am not slowed by rocks and other obstacles with the big wheels.
Conclusion
- The Niner RIP 9 is so choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up. - If you are considering a 29er, take it for more than one long test ride. I have heard from more than one person that the 29er was not love at first ride. - The Bike Lane is a great shop if you live near there. Everyone there rides and they have a nice selection of XL MTBikes to demo. - City Bikes is also a great shop with mechanics who are very helpful and straight shooting. They also have a great line up of demo bikes. It was also helpful working with Mike so that I had a clear understanding on how much everything was going to cost.
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Sam
a
from Oak Hill, VA, USA Date Reviewed: February 4, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Any trail that puts dirt under my tires
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
-Very plush -Efficient pedaling -Reasonable price -The atomic blue glow in the dark color!
Weaknesses:
-A bit more chainslap than I would like, but I guess the CVA that gives you the strengths can have a slight weakness
Similar Products Used:
Specialized FSR bikes(various), Giant Reign, Kona Kikapu
Bike Setup:
Built up just under 32lbs. with White Brothers Fluid 135, Juicy 7s, Hope Pro 2 SS disc hubs on Rhyno Lites with SRAM X9 1x5 gearing set up, XT cranks, Thomson, all the good stuff!
Bottom Line:
This bike has exceeded every expectation I had of it, right from the first ride. The first and every ride since has been ear to ear smiles all around. I have ridden many FS bikes, but never actually owned one(didn't think they would pedal well enough). Out of everything I've ridden, this surpasses the others in every way. This frame could be built as a XC race bike, but also as an AM trail rig, truly a jack of all trades IMHO. It is a great pedaler out of the saddle, very efficient, yet amazingly plush on the way down. I've only been riding some XC so far on it, but I am confident that it will handle all the downhill that I can throw at it this summer, and more.
Everything about it is quality, from the paint, the included front derailleur, touch up paint, and cable holders/guides, all of it was what I would hope to see from other high end manufacturers as well. The level of service and the fact you can talk to the guys who run the show at Niner is unbeatable.
Lastly, once I saw the glow in the dark paint, I flipped. Just amazing, everyone at the shop thought it was the coolest thing they'd seen. I'll be riding the RIP for years to come, that's all I need to say.
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Submitted by
T
a Cross Country Rider
from phx,az,usa Date Reviewed: February 2, 2008
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$3000.00
Purchased At:
the pig
Strengths:
The color! Atomic blue was pretty cool. Plush susp.
Weaknesses:
cable routing, chainline eats paint/alum behind BB, bolts backed out of frame during first ride
Similar Products Used:
Titus, ventana, fisher, Turner
Bike Setup:
I9, avids, raceface crank, reba, yada yada
Bottom Line:
The handling of this bike was spot on. I loved the geo and the shortish stays for a FS 29er. Coming from a hardtail it felt WAY mushy but hey, its got almost 5" out back. The suspension was great on rough trails, ate up some of the worst terrain out there and I'm close to some of the rockiest trails around. A little flex is noticeable out back, understanably so with the linkage setup.
problems: 1 was that this thing left me stranded 8 miles out on a trail during a night ride due to the linkage bolts backing out and grinding into my granny gear. 3 of them backed out. It wouldn't have been so bad except that it occurred behind the crank! I don't usually carry my BB tools with me on a ride (sarcasm there) and did what I could and walked some way back.
Cable routing. I had ghost shifting quite a bit that I could not get ironed out. I took it to my LBS where I bought it, he "fixxed it" but I took it out again and it continued. I heard there is a little plastic cable holder available from specialized that helps - huh???
chainstay: I had read from another reader that the chain hits the CS on this frame so before I rode it took preventative measures by wrapping protective material around the beautifully painted stay. This wore through on two rides.
So after 4-5 rides total, this bike that I wanted to fall in love with so bad, I feel let me down. Cudos to Niner for making a beautiful bike that handles well and it sounds like two of the problems have been addressed. And, I realize its a first year product. However, I paid 3K+ for this thing and personally, I expected more. That being said, ustomer service is good and I think problems are likely ironed out now.
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Don Bautista
a Cross Country Rider
from Philippines Date Reviewed: January 27, 2008
Niner has a winner with the RIP9. The bike is fast on and off road. Climbs are tamed by simply spinning the cranks. Bumps are not a factor as the fork and rear suspension give you a very silky smooth ride. Riding the niner for hours is a joy. Standover height is fantastic and your crown jewels will be uber safe.
Who should buy this? Everyone should. This is the most comfortable mountainbike that i've ridden and the most fun.
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James
a Cross Country Rider
from San Diego Date Reviewed: January 16, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Noble Canyon
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Plush, active suspension that you set up and then forget about. Great handling.
Weaknesses:
Wasn't available at an LBS in San Diego when I was looking, but it is available from some of the larger online retailers.
Similar Products Used:
Previous MTBs were 26" hardtails. Had the RIP just under a month and been riding it 3 times/week.
Climbing: Active rear suspension provides great traction in technical and steep ascents. Climbing out-of-saddle induces almost no suspension bob. Have been able to clean technical ascents with multiple water bars and rock obstacles and heavily off-camber rutted trails - just rolls up and over obstacles.
Descending: with WB F135 fork it tracks confidently - just point and shoot. As with climbing it's easier to roll over most obstacles than to try and avoid them. I have experienced minor skidding on a couple descents that was likely more technique related than a function of brake-jack or anything related to the bike design. In general, I find myself taking descents more smoothly and faster than I did before on my hardtail.
Flow: This bike cruises nicely on single-track. It's not hard to get it off the ground even for a gravity-challenged rider like myself. It does well in rock-gardens just churning and pedaling through them. I haven't had any problems getting the bike through tight corners and switchbacks.
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Vallie Atkinson
a Weekend Warrior
from Tucson, Arizona Date Reviewed: December 8, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Deer Camp
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$3400.00
Purchased At:
Arizona Cyclist
Strengths:
Climbs well, lively under power, and climbs slow technical climbs well. Good fit/ergonomics Wheel size rolls over obstacles well
Weaknesses:
Flex Steering Lack of choices for fork and shock. Low BB Brake jack
Similar Products Used:
First 29er. Have owned many full sus. bikes. 96 Ground Control,98 FSR Elite, 01 and 04 Enduro, 02 and 04 Stumpy FSR, 04 NRS, 01 Jekyll, 05 Trance 1, 07 Moto Lite.
Bike Setup:
07 RIP-9, with REBA Race fork with Poplock. Standard Niner build kit with X9 drivetrain, WTB Wheelset etc. High volume air sleeve from PUSH.
Bottom Line:
I know this bike gets rave reviews, but it is not perfect, or perfect for everyone. Hopefully some things in this review help others in the setup, I don't want this to be just a dissing review.
It does climb very well, getting good traction up climbs, and feels lively and efficient. Climbs up and over rock steps very well, with exception of low BB giving more pedal strikes. I like climbing steep and rocky stuff, and it does well at this. The big wheels help get up and over things.
Steering was a mixed bag for me. It felt like it resists initial turn in, then suddenly turns. Not as precise as my Moto Lite. As if the big wheels slow the steering at speed, and then when not rolling as fast it turns almost too quick. My Titus goes exactly where I want, but I found myself either under or oversteering on the RIP.
Now I will use the "F" word. "FLEX" I do not know if just the frame is to blame, or if it is a combo of the frame/fork/wheels, but I felt noticeable and unpleasant flex. If you take one hand off the bars and firmly shake the bike from side to side, it jiggles like a noodle. My Moto Lite does not do this at all, and I found that down rocky downhills with lots of baseball sized rocks the RIP seemed to dance all over and I constantly had to correct my line, and could not keep it on line. Felt like it had a mind of it's own. On faster less rocky trails it was not an issue.If you live in more open "flowy" terrain, you may not feel the flex to be an issue, but AZ rocks really bring it out if a bike has it.
There is a slight bit of brake jack as the rear end rises and loses a little traction under braking. Stay off the brakes and let the big wheels roll.
If you do a RIP-9 I would recommend a longer travel fork. The geometry would fit a 135-140mm well. Unfortunately your choices are limited and it would sure be nice to have a 140mm TALAS as an option to be able to change the height at will.
I would also get the stiffest wheels possible, as 29ers bring out the worst in wheels. You need a burly/stiff wheel to make up for the inherent increase in flex.
I would recommend the High Volume Air Sleeve. $60 from PUSH. I was barely getting over 3 inches of travel with 25% sag, but the bigger sleeve gave me almost full travel, and a better feel over the bumps. No option of fitting a coil on the RIP if it has a reservoir like most do.
Bottom line, is this is a good bike in many ways. It climbs well, and handles decently as long as lots of rocks are not telling it which way to go. I would recommend other buyers to get a longer fork, the air sleeve, and the stiffest wheels you can.
I would consider a 29er in the future but I will wait for a really stiff frame, better choice of forks, and would use the stiffest wheels possible. For now I will stay with my new Moto Lite with a really stiff chassis, and stiffer wheels, and longer travel with lots of fork and shock options.
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Randy
a Cross Country Rider
from Portland, Maine Date Reviewed: November 7, 2007
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
Speedgoat
Strengths:
Ride and handling are the best I've ever experienced.
Weaknesses:
Unconventional pivot below the bottom bracket causes problems with some repair stands and bike carriers.
Similar Products Used:
I've owned over a dozen bikes, both full suspension and hardtail, singlespeed and geared, including a Racer-X, Maverick ML7, and a Cannondale Caffeine 29er. This bike was a noticeable improvement over any bike I've owned or ridden.
Bike Setup:
Medium anodized silver frame. Reba 29er Race fork set at 4 inches of travel. XTR 960 crankset. Magura Marta SL brakes. Stans Olympic wheelset with WTB Laserdisc Lite hubs. XO twisters and rear derailleur.Thomson stem and seatpost. Easton carbon flat bar, 23 inches. WTB Pure saddle. WTB Nanoraptor tires, wire bead. 26.25 pounds.
Bottom Line:
The first thing you notice when you ride this bike is how stiff it feels. But....the suspension soaks up everything in its path.
The handling is very precise. I initially rode it with a Easton carbon riser bar and the handling was very good. Then I changed to an Easton carbon flat bar that was 23 inches wide. Whoa! What a difference. This bike now handles better than ANY bike I've ever ridden. I can rail corners on this bike so fast that the G-forces actually drive me down on top of the steerer.
This is by far the best handling and riding bike I've ever been on and I've ridden over 150 different bikes.
The real test for this bike was when I rode it in an annual 50-mile race in Vermont. I've ridden in this race for 9 years in a row. The RIP9 at 26.25 pounds is the heaviest bike by 2 pounds that I've ever ridden in this race. I was 52 minutes faster this year than I ever was on any other bike.
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Submitted by
Rain Man
a Cross Country Rider
from Australia Date Reviewed: October 28, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Local
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1200.00
Purchased At:
Niner Bikes
Strengths:
Very fast, great handling, rails corners. Glows in the dark. well made, paint is good, no drips or runs. I can't detect any rear end flex. This frame loves going fast down hills over some seriously gnarly terrain, and climbs like a mountain goat.
Weaknesses:
Ummmm...........wait ........... let me think....... ahhh yeah, I had to pay for it.
Really, this frame has very little wrong with it ... it's hard to find fault. Maybe another inch of ground clearance under the EBB...it's hard to find a fault..it's so good.
Similar Products Used:
Mostly 26'er FS bikes, this is my first FS 29'er.
Bike Setup:
Lotsa goodies ... Avid Juicy 7 brakes on JJ Ti H-bars, 90mm Ritchey stem, Cane creek Solos Headset, Manitou Minute 29 120mm fork, Fox RP23 rear shock, Stans Flow rims with Panaracer Rampage front and Kenda Nevegal rear tires, XT crankset with Azonic A-Frame pedals, Rohloff chain and Rohloff chain tensioner, Hope QR skewers, Brooks [Selle-Modified] saddle, Maverick Speedball remote seatpost, Rohloff Speedhub with twistgrip shifter, ESI chunky grips.
Bottom Line:
This is a wonderful bike. The frame is very, very good. Everything works as it should, there are no bad surprises.
Frame flex? ... None for me, i'm around 165lb and ride it hard. Since I got this bike from the guys at Niner, I have ridden it almost every day. That's a lot of hard off road miles, in all types of Australian weather. Not one single problem with the frame...none. The bike rails corners, especially those fast sketchy ones at high speeds. It makes you feel that you can go harder all the time. Downhills over rough terrain, this frame shines. It handles fast downhill stuff easily, the big wheels just hammer over everything, and they roll very fast.
Uphill traction is great, and whilst it is a product of the tires grip on loose surfaces that is the most important aspect here, the frame does everything it can to help you get up stuff that you would usually be walking. It tracks the ground well, and there is no bob from the rear end when standing up and grinding/hammering up hills.
Tight single track is handled with ease, some of the stuff I ride is so tight and techy that my pinky finger knuckles are always skinned from hitting trailside trees....that's tight !
This is a great frame, it could easily be the only bike you need to own. I have been super happy with mine so far, the only problem I have ever encountered was with some pedal strikes when I first started riding it, but it hardly ever happens once you dial in the bike and get used to the way it rides.
Oh yeah ...the frame, the Atomic Blue paint glows in the dark, which is quite a sensation for everyone you ride with at night, or when you ride through a dark patch of woods after being in the light...the frame glows with this eerie blue/green glow...incredible!
The Bottom Line...
Niner Bikes tested and worked on this frame for quite a while before releasing it to the general public, and it shows. They did their research and development correctly, got all the geometry right, and that is reflected in the way this frame behaves under you when you ride it.
A good bike will tend to disappear when you ride it, and this one does that very well. You don't have to think about it, you just look ahead to where you want it to go .... and it goes there.... no effort, no drama.
It's no surprise to me that this frame is so in demand, or that it won best award for 2007. The after sales service from Niner is beyond reproach.
My RIP 9 ["TruBlu"] is outstandingly good. I love this blue frame, it lets me do crazy things and get away with it...
I give this frame my highest recommendation.
Rainman.
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Submitted by
Doo
a Cross Country Rider
from Alto, TN Date Reviewed: September 21, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Perimeter Trail Sewanee
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1500.00
Purchased At:
Woody's Bicycles
Strengths:
Suspension travel, high bottom bracket, great design
Weaknesses:
still looking for one. Heavier than a ti hardtail (Obviously)
I have ridden this thing for 6 months at least three times per week and still remark about how I love it for the types of trails I ride. The trails here in southern Middle TN are primarily rocky climbs. There is no shortage of fallen logs after every storm. The higher bottom bracket and King Earl crank greatly assist in getting over obstacles and limit pedal strikes. After getting everything adjusted on this thing the only thing bad that had happened is the head badge lost a screw. This bike is perfect for a person who wants a durable full suspension frame that can withstand a fair share of abuse. Oh yeah, I rode it with Rebas on it to begin with while waiting on my White Brothers. They were both great. Last but not least, no one following me on this bike has questioned the nimbleness and jumpability of a 29er. While I love the smooth old Genesis geometry (low bottom bracket)of a Fisher, this thing rails.
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Brian
a Cross Country Rider
from Simi Valley, CA Date Reviewed: September 15, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Chesboro Cyn
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1250.00
Purchased At:
Ebay
Strengths:
Very stiff frame, plush, fox rp23 shock, constantly varying arc rear suspension, superb engineering, lightweight, work of art, XL size frame reviewed.
Weaknesses:
hard to find
Similar Products Used:
Gary Fisher Supercaliber29
Bike Setup:
Reba Race Air (spacer removed to get 100mm, 105psi+/105psi-), WTB 36 spoke 29er wheels (stiffer than Bontrager Race Disc 29), Bontrager Race OS 7deg stem, Bontrager Race Lite Big Sweep OS bar, Bontrager Race Lite grips, Bontrager Jones XR 2.25/2.2 tires, Avid Juicy 5 hydraulic disc w/6" avid rotors, Sram PG970 11-34 cassette, Shimano HG73 chain, Sram X.9 rear derailleur, Shimano LX front derailleur, Sram X.9 trigger shifters, Cane Creek S1 headset, Raceface Deus 180mm X-pipe crank/BB, weighs 30.5lbs with flatpedals.
Bottom Line:
I'm 6'3"/190lbs, friends told me I need XL frame, suggested 29" wheels, so I bought an XL Gary Fisher Supercaliber29. Just riding down the street, I noticed the rear end wiggling back and forth with my cadance. The first downhill singletrack I noticed the bike did not go where the front wheel was pointing. Frame felt like it had a hinge in the middle. 80mm travel on both ends didn't do anything to help insire confidence. A 26" wheel Fisher Sugar 2+ disc frame I tried felt the same.
I parked the 29 for a while in search of a stiff frame, and have been riding a XL 26" Santa Cruz Heckler (with Maverick DUC32 fork) and a L 26" Maverick ML7 (both awesome bikes). As a last ditch effort to see if the 29 craze was worth it (I was about to put the Supercaliber29 up for sale), I was lucky to run across a near new Niner R.I.P. on ebay. I removed all components from the Supercaliber29 and installed them on the Niner (substituting a 180mm crank to get more leverage to counter the change in effective gear ratio from the larger 29" tires).
I can honestly say the Niner R.I.P 9 is 500% better than the fisher supercaliber29. The Niner frame is stiff and gives a perfect platform for the suspension to do what it is supposed to. I left the fox rp23 Propedal in the open (or not used) position, 125psi in the shock, 2 clicks from minimum of rebound, and the rear worked perfect. The Niner 'wheelies' less up hills vs. my Hecker & ML7, and due to that I was able to make it up a short steep hill I never have done with any other bike I've had. The Reba Race set at 100mm became a completely different fork, much better than at 80 mm.
The geometry of the niner is awesome, very comfortable in sitting or 'on the pegs', very stable on fast fireroad downhills and alson on technical/rocky singletrack, and handled the singletrack as well as my Heckler & ML7. With the R.I.P., I feel fresher after 2 hour ride than the other bikes. I've read where 29" wheels turn slower or feel lazy, but the R.I.P. turns and feels no different than my Heckler & ML7.
I highly recommend the R.I.P. 9. Riding one will put a big grin on your face and make you want to ride it again the next day.
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Submitted by
John Brownlow
a Cross Country Rider
from Ontario, Canada Date Reviewed: September 3, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Kolapore, 3-Stage, Kingdom Trails, wherever
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1500.00
Purchased At:
Bike29.com
Strengths:
Fast, plush, very cool, amazing all around bike, it's from Niner, uphill, downhill, does it all.
Weaknesses:
You can get in over your head very quickly with this one.
Well, this is my first review after two long rides and a bit of dirt jumping and skinny riding. Will post updates after I have more time on the bike but I think first impressions are always good to record.
My first two reactions after I got on the bike for the first time were (1) it's big (2) it's fast. I managed to make it feel a little smaller by removing all the headset spacers but I was never able to make it feel slower!
It feels a lot like my Commencal Meta 5.20 on the trail in terms of suspension and travel... no bob and very plush indeed... dangerously fast downhill... definitely tempts you to ride risky lines at high speed. But it completely outshone the Commencal uphill, both in terms of adhesion and lack of a wandering front end, and was far more comfortable since I wasn't compressed the whole time to keep the front down.
It has all the usual 29er virtues of heedlessly blasting over smaller trail obstacles.
I only really started to understand how fast it was when I rode with other people. A rider who normally rides the same speed as me, I dropped over and over again without really trying (I felt bad, to be honest). Uphill, downhill, I was waiting 20-30 seconds at every trail junction. I was keeping up with much, much faster riders, and at one point I dropped the two fastest guys I ride with (10 yrs younger, much more athletic) on a fast piece of doubletrack. However the bike feels very controlled and stable at speed.
Steering is precise and the bike is agile with the 100mm fork. I had a few pedal strikes but we compared BB heights and the RIP9 was exactly the same as the Commencal and my friend's Scott. I was using all of the travel on the Reba (set +100 -90) and I could see a bigger fork being fun, but the Reba works very well.
The main reason I bought this bike was to get the same riding position I get on my SIR9 but on a FS bike. The Commencal, while a lovely bike, was screwing my back up, something I couldn't risk with a long trip to the Rockies coming up. Well, it certainly achieved that, but a lot more as well. It's a great bike and all of the reviews seem to be accurate.
I feel like it deserves big tires, strong wheels and good brakes. Although it's fast, it's definitely an AM/Trail bike as opposed to XC and you are going to be looking for every little hit and drop when you are riding it. For the first time I started to wonder if the AmClassic rims were really up to the sh!t I was throwing at them. I expect it will also be a wonderful all-day/epic ride on more challenging trails.
More later when I have more miles, but so far it's the nicest bike I've ever ridden.
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Dave Draschil
a Cross Country Rider
from Lakewood, co Date Reviewed: August 23, 2007
Favorite Trail:
401
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
Rolled over EVERYTHING!!!! Climbed like a Mountain Goat!!
Bike Setup:
2005 Stumpy, XT components
Bottom Line:
Looking for a new ride and this will be it! Didn't have a bad thing to say about it. Demo'ed twice from the same place (withdrawls)!
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William Dippel
a Cross Country Rider
from Reno, Nv. USA Date Reviewed: August 9, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Peavine/Evans/Tahoe rim
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1549.00
Strengths:
This bike is AMAZING. I was riding a Blur for the last two years and loved it however, I'm 6'4" and almost any bike seems tight. This is the first frame that I could really stretch out on and it is such a gorgeous frame that I was afraid to get it dirty. Now that it has mud stains on it I can say: If you are a tall rider this bike is a must own. Suspension is amazingly stable and consistent. Rarely use the lockout on the stock RP23, when I do it is for heavy climbing and more out of habit than because I need it. I love this bike. Climbs like a goat, handles like a Porsche. Now if I was just a better rider.....
Weaknesses:
Hard to find. Niner was out of them and recommended that I call around to some shops to find one (they supplied me with suggestions). I really wanted the silver version as I need anodized for the rocks around here: I did not want to chip up the blue paint. Once I found one the race was on to build it.
Similar Products Used:
Santa Cruz Blur, Trek Fuel 90 (stolen)
Bike Setup:
XTR cranks, cassette, front and rear der. Formula Bianco brakes, Thompson stem/seat post. Chris King hubs attached to a custom built set of flow wheels from Dave Thomas at Speeddream.com (black spokes, red nipples, red Chris King hubs...SICK). 20mm pass through hub on White Brothers 130mm Magic 29 fork. Panaracer Rampage tires.
Bottom Line:
What else can I say, If you want to build up one incredible bike for a tall rider, this is a sure bet. I also considered the Salsa, Ventana, and the Ellsworth. But after countless hours of research and talking to Brett at Niner (Ellsworth could not be troubled to answer their phone) as well as other riders this seemed like the way to go. The 29er shootout here at MTBR really helped as well. I write this review because I believe in the product and because MTBR helped me in so many ways on this bike that I felt I had to (finally) contribute.
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Tuker
a Weekend Warrior
from Tempe AZ USA Date Reviewed: August 8, 2007
Favorite Trail:
South Mountain any trail
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$3400.00
Purchased At:
Javelina Cycles 480-598-3373
Strengths:
Last year this was the best 29" dual-suspension bike and it still is. Lots of rear travel and lite weight. After riding 29ers it is hard to go back. Traction is what I find the best, it is great on the loose rock. Loose rock is what I ride on at South Mountain.
Weaknesses:
Hard to find, I wanted the glowing blue paint.
Similar Products Used:
Titus demo also nice bike.
Bike Setup:
Monkey lite bars, FSA Carbon cranks Tompson seat post, WTB laser Rocket saddle, X9 shifters and for bling I used the industry nine red hubs and spokes.
Bottom Line:
Wow what a bike, glad to see the big manufacture haven't taken over this market. If you are 6 ft and over you should be riding a 29er simple. See Scott at Javelina Cycles honest, and he can set you up 480-598-3373
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Sourfunk
a Weekend Warrior
from Portland, Oregon, USA Date Reviewed: July 9, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Spring Gulch, Missoula, MT
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1575.00
Purchased At:
Cycle Path, Portland, OR
Strengths:
Nimble for a big rig. Suspension soaks up little bumps and big hits without sucking up all the energy it takes to get to the bumps and hits.
Weaknesses:
None so far, but would prefer a bike made closer to home.
Similar Products Used:
No other experience with 29 inch full suspension. Most experience with 26 full suspension has been test rides and weekend rentals. The mountain bike I owned before the RIP9 was a hardtail Cannondale (circa 1993).
Bike Setup:
Industry Nine hubs with Stans Flow Rims. Big ol' WTB wolf tires. Reba shock. SRAM triggers and rear derailer. King headset. Easton Monkey Lite bars. XT cranks. Overall, it's around 28 pounds.
Bottom Line:
I have been nothing more than a casual mountain biker ever since moving away from Bozeman, MT ten years ago. Since then, I've been riding road bikes. A lot has changed in ten years. The RIP9 has single handedly made mountain biking my favorite discipline (again).
The bike just loves to go fast down hills. When I'm done riding, I want to make motorcycle noises and pretend like I'm reving a throttle. It makes me feel like a kid.
I test rode probably 20 different bikes when deciding what to buy. None of the bikes I tested (Santa Cruz, Specialized, Giant, Cannondale, Rocky Mountain, Ellsworth, etc.) felt as good as the RIP9. The bike just feels right.
Every ride I've had it out on has made me fall deeper in love. It's definitely worth considering if you are looking for a full suspension bike. The only riders I would coach away from buying this bike is somebody who's prime motivation is low weight (although it actually isn't too heavy), or a short rider (although I haven't seen the small size, which may work fine for a shorter rider).
I have zero regrets, and I am psyched I didn't settle on any of the other bikes I was considering (some of which were more expensive than my RIP9).
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Lothar of the Hill People
a Racer
from Ocomukowonowaukesha, WI Date Reviewed: April 22, 2007
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
Backyard Bikes-La Grange General Store
Strengths:
Top notch fit & finish. Paint glows. Rides great. Great company support.
Weaknesses:
None specific to this bike.
Similar Products Used:
Similar as in 29er full suspension...none, similar as in frame & 2 wheels...Santa Cruz Superlight, Proflex 857, Fisher Paragon, the rest are too old to name...
Bike Setup:
M frame, Reba Race 100mm, lots of XTR, Race Face crankset/stem, Salsa carbon bar, Thomson Masterpiece post, Bontrager XLite TLR wheels...and just a tad over 26#
Bottom Line:
This bike is fast.
Fit & Finish: Top notch. HT/BB are faced. Paint glows in the dark (very cool), though I usually prefer the durability of an anodized finish, I just couldn't pass up the Atomic Blue. Bottle cage mounts on the underside of the downtube are useless. I wish manufactureres would quit putting them there. Niner ships the frame with a front derailler. Well thought out cable routing for full length housing/hydraulic lines.
Build: Minor cable routing issues with the front derailler. Must be careful the linkage doesn't hit the cable housing. Got a few nicks in the paint due to careless wrenching..now I remember why I prefer an anodized finish. Chainstay yoke is hard to protect from chain slap. Ultimately I wrap it in an old piece of inner tube. (a custom Niner chainstay protector would be nice) It was a challenge to get the bars as low as I like with the high headtube that 29ers have in general. A -6 degree stem and flat bars did the trick. Otherwise, no real build issues.
The Ride: Sweeeeet. I don't use the propedal feature on the shock and have never really liked platform shocks anyway. I could never figure out why people buy full suspension bikes and then spend all this time making them ride like a hardtail. This is a good suspension design that really doesn't need a platform shock. Usually new bikes take a while to feel comfortable to me. This bike felt right almost instantly. Very glad I went with a M over a L. Luckily I was able to spend time on both at my dealer. I had no problems navigating tight singletrack or tight switchbacks. It climbs like an absolute mountain goat. Rough, loose technical climbs were a piece of cake. It rails the corners. Acceleration is a little slower than my Superlight. In a back to back test with my SL, I can hit a higher speed, quicker on the SL...however, over an entire lap on my favorite course, the RIP has lower lap times, so is faster overall. When I built this bike I thought I'd keep the Superlight...just in case. But, I've fallen in love with the RIP and the SL has been sitting in the garage ever since.
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Ryan
a Cross Country Rider
from San Carlos, CA, USA Date Reviewed: February 5, 2007
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
This baby can roll...it takes quite something to push it out of line. Very nice out of the saddle, not too much bob.
Weaknesses:
Slightly slow acceleration compared to my 29er hardtail.
Similar Products Used:
Intense Spider 29er (not 5" version), Van Dessel FS 9er, Ventana El Ray, Soulcraft Holy Roller 29" hardtail.
Bike Setup:
Dialed with SRAM parts, great stuff.
Bottom Line:
Bike was a joy. First trail I rode on was Manzanita (rocky, rooted, rutted sandstone trail) at Skeggs (El Corte de Madera OSP)...there was simply no need to pick a line, the bike just held it's course and rolled on with authority. Then the climb back up and over to Blue Blossom for some tight singletrack. The climb was notably slower. On my bike, I always climb in the middle ring...with my legs on this day on this bike (which was it, bike or legs (I suspect the bike)), I needed the small ring. Blue blossom was great, but not quite as nimble as my Soulcraft....though, I don't think it was a problem, perhaps just an adjustment over time. Up and over to Resolution...climbing out of the saddle was satisfying, but again, small ring. Down Resolution was great, ripping, flowy singletrack with plenty of rocks and roots, all absorbed with no loss of momentum...just what I wanted from a FS 29er.
Next (night) ride in Woodside was unspeakable...involved extended climbs and an absolutely hairy, leafy, branchy, straight down descent. The bike was a dream at speed, just a little cumbersom at tight, low speed stuff.
I'd love to reexamine the Spider, try the Racer X, and throw a leg over the Sultan. Seems like, in reality, the trails in the area that I ride on day in day out may all be better suited to my 29er hardtail, but extended rides, and the more extreme may require a FS 29er, and the RIP 9 has made it's mark.
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Bubba
a Cross Country Rider
from fairfield Date Reviewed: November 13, 2006
Favorite Trail:
nimham
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
bike29.com
Strengths:
Climbs and accelerates very well without any bob. Handles the East Coast rock gardens and tight singletrack well. Rear suspension is nice without being mushy or too plush.
Weaknesses:
The bottom bracket height is lower than I'm used to but I'll learn to live with it.
Similar Products Used:
Ellworth: Truth, Id, Epiphany, Moment. Yeti 575 and ASR-SL.
Bike Setup:
Rock Shox Reba Race w/100mm, King Disc hubs on Stan 355's with Kenda Nevegals, Race Face Deus Cranks, XTR Shifters and Derailleurs, Avid Disc Brakes
Bottom Line:
This was my first experiment with 29'ers coming from an Ellsworth ID that I really love. This bike has surpassed my expecations and will be replacing the ID.
I have to say that I was skeptical about the whole 29 thing but that said, here are my impressions:
Definitely rolling thru the rock gardens is easier, as well as I’m not “catching” on the usual hazards that can cause me to stop or endo.
The front end is not washing out as much or is easier to recover from. I especially noticed it in the leaves that on recent rides have been giving me fits.
Way better traction on steep climbs (and I thought the Id was a pretty good climber). I really noticed this when climbing steeps where the other guy was spinning out and I just cruised by with a grin.
With regards to the RIP:
Great acceleration with little or no bob.
Nimble handling.
Plush but not too plush in the rear. It feels very similar to my Ellsworth Id, which is what I wanted.
Overall I almost feel like I have an unfair advantage, everything is just easier. Sure the steering is a little slower but I still feel the bike handles extremely well in the tight, technical stuff that we ride, as well as the rock gardens.
This bike is a real value considering that it was so highly rated at the Interbike Demo against many well known manufacturers who are at much higher price points.
I made my decision to purchase this frame based on those reviews as well as discussions with George at Bike29.com who is very knowledgeable about the handling traits of different bike designs and I am not at all disappointed!
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Jay
a Cross Country Rider
from Salt Lake City, Utah Date Reviewed: October 15, 2006
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
Demo'd only at Interbike. Rides great! 29ers for me from here on as I'm 6'2" and the fit and feel are the best I've had on a mountain bike since my first mountain bike in 1983. The rear suspension is close to my Blur without the kickback that the SC has. I felt it was very effecient with the Rox RP3 in full open position there was little pedaling induced movement at all. I bought the RIP after riding all the FS 29'ers at the Interbike Demo.
Weaknesses:
None so far. I'm a little concerned about the variable arc linkage being low and the design. Seams it could be built with more mass. As I mentioned I own a Blur and have had a good bit of creaking from the VPP and I am sensitive to this so I'm a little concerned, but the ride quality was excellant!
Similar Products Used:
I've owned several mountain bikes thought the years, my most recent being a Maverick and the Santa Cruz. I rode several of the FS 29'ers at the Dirt Demo and will rank them 1) Intense Spyder 2) Niner RIP, 3) Ellsworth 4) Turner Sultan. Realy like the Dos Niner but I liked the extra travel of the RIP for Utah and Colorado riding. I wish Lenz had been at the show to demo. The Intense had a 80mm fork which may have made it feel a little quicker as wel as it was a medium size frame.
Bike Setup:
XO, Reba 100, nice build, can't recall the complete build.
Bottom Line:
Feels stable and neutral handling. No surprizes. It was a lot of fun riding. The suspension was very smooth in taking out the small to intermediate bumps up to the bigger hits. It has the best rear suspension of all the 29'ers. My pick of the bikes at the Demo!
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