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Submitted by
imtnbike
a Cross Country Rider
from Redding, CA
Date Reviewed: July 1, 2009 | | Favorite Trail: | Mr Toads | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$600.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | After years of use - have NEVER had to true these wheels. As an aggressive clydesdale rider this is very impressive. | | Weaknesses: | As you will read on other reviews - the rear hub is a nightmare...and Mavic knows it. Has been rebuilt once already and now the rear is toast again. Read the bottom line to get the bigger picture | | Similar Products Used: | Other wheels - all round | | Bike Setup: | Do you really care? ok - an Ellsworth Moment | | Bottom Line: | The customer service with Mavic is like dealing with the French - oh, wait...they are a French company. The only stateside service is in Mass. - took 4 - four, not one, two or three but FOUR months for them to fix my rear hub. Last count that is equal to 1/3 of a year, but you can do the math. Every LBS I have talked to since say their customer service is spotty at best. With same situation now - been told to expect at least 4 weeks for another rebuild. Funny thing is that now Mavic has changed their entire rear hub construction (with exception to SL). No documentation to found or obtained on how maintain the wheels - after all this money, time and heartache I have been informed that if I had them taken in or self maintained every six weeks they can last a very long time...too late - bye, bye Mavic, it's been a great trip but I don't see you wheelin' with me in the future. We both lose out | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
cyclopath1000
a Cross Country Rider
from Davis,CA USA
Date Reviewed: February 22, 2009 | | Favorite Trail: | Hole in the Ground | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$700.00 | | Purchased At: | My Local bike friend | | Strengths: | I was one of the first users of UST technology and have two crossmax ust disc wheelsets, one was on each bike. They were light, responsive and excellent rims, sexy looking hub structure | | Weaknesses: | But now I have trashed a total of three rear axles if the factory replacement is counted. The terminal event is the hub body wearing out the axle shaft creating accelerating cassette play. | | Bike Setup: | Two ventanas one elsaltamontes and the other an x5 | | Bottom Line: | The fact that the hub body causes irreversible axle wear placing the axle out of spec and unrepairable neccessatiates a review of the wisdom of owning this beautiful wheelset. I am having hope pro hubs with stan's rims made for both bikes. Until mavic redesignes the rear hub so that the hub body is not in potential contact with the axle(such as shimano's design) and this mechanism is replaceable while saving the hub DO NOT BUY THIS PRODUCT if you actually ride your bike. If you only hang it and gaze at it then this wheelset remains acceptable. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Steve
a Weekend Warrior
from Issaquah, WA
Date Reviewed: May 14, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$450.00 | | Purchased At: | REI | | Strengths: | lightweight, tube- or tubeless | | Weaknesses: | the hubs!!! (and the stickers) | | Similar Products Used: | some base model Mavic that came with my Kona, Sun Ringle Disc Jockey | | Bike Setup: | Titus Loco-Moto w/ Marzocchi FR SL and Fox DHX 5.0 | | Bottom Line: | I'm disappointed. I'm learning to ride more aggressive but still don't take anything serious over 3 feet. There's some play starting to happen in my rear wheel. No catastrophic failure yet, but a friend told me this is common with Mavic hubs that they need to be rebuilt. I thought for the price I paid these would be more stout than the Sun Ringles I was using (which are still intact). I suppose I'll keep riding them until the hub finally goes (then get something handbuilt with better hubs). Oh yeah, and the stickers don't last through winter riding (but the Sun Ringles do). | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Arthur G
a Weekend Warrior
from Alexandria, VA
Date Reviewed: April 22, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | flat and rolling hills | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$100.00 | | Purchased At: | performance | | Strengths: | after only two rides the rear free-hub failed completely. Both teeth on the inside had popped out of their casing because the rear lip the held them in place was broken, causing the freehub to seize.
I returned it and got my money back. | | Weaknesses: | light weight hub is perhaps too light... lower weight at the cost of sacrificed quality is not worth it. | | Bike Setup: | Lightning Thunderbolt Recumbent. | | Bottom Line: | Poor quality and design... buying a cheap wheel is not worth it. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Matt
a Racer
from Texas
Date Reviewed: March 7, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$100.00 | | Strengths: | strength, light weight, hubs | | Weaknesses: | on the Gen 1 rims you need to buy an adapted for your disc brakes | | Bike Setup: | XC | | Bottom Line: | Even the 1st Gen. Cross Max are B/A they are fast, light weight, the only down fall is you need an adapted for the disc system you are going to run. MSRP $800, I paid $100. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jay Etchings
a Weekend Warrior
from Las Vegas
Date Reviewed: March 28, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | Any thing Crazy & Fast | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$649.00 | | Purchased At: | Manual and Ollies | | Strengths: | Fast Rolling and stiff. | | Weaknesses: | The price and flexibility to change hubs. | | Similar Products Used: | Atom Labs DHR | | Bike Setup: | Ellsworth Moment, Sherman Firefly, Diabolus crank, Hope M4, Thomson, etc | | Bottom Line: | This is a pricey set of wheels but they seem pretty strong and they are a bit lighter than the DHR's and much lighter than my set of DeeMax wheels. I like the overall stiff feel of these wheels and the rolling speed of hubs is great. They are not really CK's but good anyhow. I have heard some folks say they do not like the stiffness but I ran the 2004 DeeMax and the stiffness is like that but without the added weight. These wheelsets seem to run hot and cold if you get a good set your in luck if you get lemon wheels your screwed. I bought mine of a demo bike so I knew they were good.
I would make this purchase again. This is a solid pick for the new All-Mountain type rider. | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Lou
a Cross Country Rider
from Tacoma WA USA
Date Reviewed: January 24, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | Coral Pass | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Strong and Light Wheelset Look Great Sealed Bearings | | Weaknesses: | Kind of expensive | | Similar Products Used: | SunRingle, Trek Bontager | | Bike Setup: | Airborne Paka-wallop XTR Drivetrain Fox Talas Fork, FSA Bars
Chris King Headset,IRS Mytros Tires | | Bottom Line: | This wheelset has taken some good abuse and has held up very well. I am a 180 pound semi aggressive rider and have taken a few nice drops with no problems. Very smooth bearings. Very nice looks. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
James MacFarlane
a Cross Country Rider
from Burlington, ON CANADA
Date Reviewed: September 27, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | Buckwallow, Porcupine Ridge, Bracebridge Ontario | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$550.00 | | Purchased At: | Ecclestone's, Bracebridge | | Strengths: | sealed bearings, lightweight, great looks | | Weaknesses: | Very poor quality control from Mavic. It took the owner of Ecclestone Cycle 30-minutes to shake the metal filings out of the front rim before he installed them. The rear hub was tight from the start, but I thought it would loosen-up. Instead, the hub reequired a complete overhaul after 4 rides. I was told it was due to uneven lubrication. | | Similar Products Used: | Shimano XTR | | Bike Setup: | Kona Kikapu, Fox float rear-shock, Marzocchi MX-Comp front shock, Sram 9.0 gripshift, 9.0SL(woody)rear derailleur, XTR front derailleur, Raceface cranks, rings, & seatpost | | Bottom Line: | Great product, but the same legendary quality control inadequacies often attributed French manufacturing. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Neil
a Cross Country Rider
from Vermont
Date Reviewed: September 20, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$150.00 | | Purchased At: | Ebay - what a steal!! | | Strengths: | Takes an absolute pounding. Stays true. Light light light. | | Weaknesses: | Adjustment cone, which is located under the disc mount, loosens after a few rides, necessitating removal of 6 disc bolts, then 4 mount bolts, to access the cone. | | Similar Products Used: | Crossride, for-crap Weinmann 420's | | Bike Setup: | Idrive upgraded to the max. xt/xtr, avid mech. front, lots of fun parts. Nothing stock. | | Bottom Line: | This is a really fine wheel - the model year 2000, non UST version. Upon receipt from the eBay seller, I was concerned about the loose hub, until I found the adjustment cone under the disc mount adapter. Low spoke count and direct-pull configuration looks a little thin for a disc wheel, but the proof is in the riding.
Very light - noticable difference from my crossride. Braking is stupendous. I do hear some spoke 'pting' noise when hard braking on rough steeps, but the wheel stays true, ride after ride after ride. This includes some of the most agressive rocks, rooty, and loggy terrain in VT (which can be found on a certain mountain in Addison Cty VT...). Minimal lateral sway for the low count. I am really very pleased with this wheel, which I got as-new for a very good price on eBay. Value rating is accordingly high. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
AARON CONSAUL
a
from ROCHESTER, NY
Date Reviewed: June 18, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | THE NEW ONE | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$850.00 | | Purchased At: | ?SUPERGO? | | Strengths: | COOL LOOKING
LOW AIR PRESURE, WILL ENABLE YOU TO CLIM ANYTHING!!
VERY STRONG, FOR XC
| | Weaknesses: | YOU CAN ONLY SERVICE THE RIM AND HUB TO A POINT, AND YOUR LOCAL BIKE SHOP WILL EITHER NOT KNOW HOW TO OR WILL HAVE TO SEND OUT FOR THE PARTS. IF YOU BREAK A SPOKE WHAT DO YOU DO? NOTE THESE RIMS HAVE NO WEAKNESS IF USED FOR THE RIGHT RIDE, IT IS A STRICTLY XC RIM. WHEN JUMPING OR ON SEVERAL BIG DROP INS I AM LOOSING SOME AIR | | Similar Products Used: | THIER IS REALY NOTHING THAT IN IT'S CATAGORY | | Bike Setup: | FSR EXPERT W/MOUNTAIN SPEEDS LONG TRAVEL/BEARING KIT, MONKEY LIGHT BARS, EASTON MAG STEM, HAYS F & R DISC, PSYLO XC, RACE FACE NEXT CRANKS AND SEAT POST AND BLA BLA. | | Bottom Line: | THESE WHEEL SETS ARE THE ULTIMATE XC CLIMING, NO PINCH FLAT, LOW AIR PRESSURE RUNNING, FAST ROLLING, SUPER EXPENSIVE WHEEL SET IN THE UNIVERSE. ALL OTHER UST RIMS WILL ONLY COPY OR FALL SHORT OF THIS QUALITY. IF YOU ARE THE KIND OF PERSON WHO FREE RIDES & XC YOU WILL WANT A SECOND SET OF RIMS I AM WAITING FOR MY D321 HOOPS TO BUILD IN TO MY EVERY DAY RIMS AND I WILL RACE THE CROSS MAX DISC DURING RACES AND TRAINING. I HAVE JUMPED, DOWN HILLED, DROPED IN, AND CRASHED VERY VERY HARD (SEVERAL TIMES) WITH LITTLE OR KNOW SIGNS OF TWEAKING OR ANYTHING TO THESE RIMS, BUT IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME( OR I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT TOASTING 850 WORTH OF WHEELS & 100 WORTH OF RUBBER). | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Pat G
a Weekend Warrior
from Columbus OH
Date Reviewed: November 7, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Horsethief bench/ CO | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$400.00 | | Purchased At: | mtbr | | Strengths: | light weight, outstanding hubs, excellent bearing | | Weaknesses: | White color, improper spoke tension, proprietary spokes. Rims need a bit more width to be more stable | | Similar Products Used: | Specialized disks, bontrager ASYM disks, | | Bike Setup: | A bunch of em, Cannondale Raven (wife's bike), Santa Cruz Heckler, Ellison Hardtail. | | Bottom Line: | These are actually very nice wheels. The only problem is that the spokes aren't tensioned properly at the factory, they are not hand built. If you take em to a bike shop when new, have em retensioned properly, then check them regularly until they are seated, then you'll never have problems. The rims are pretty narrow, thus the low wieght. I turned my brand new front wheel into a pretzel after only one ride due to the spoke tension problem. But...since then, I have had no problems at all. My wife thrashed em in a trip to Fruita and Vail, didn't even have to hit em with a spoke wrench. Supergo has em down to around $400 now, make sure they give you the 6 hole interational standard bolt pattern adapters, or they'll charge $65 per wheel (weak!) | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jonathan Savage
a Racer
from Boulder, CO
Date Reviewed: September 29, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | walker ranch | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Purchased At: | With Cannondale Bike | | Strengths: | Light, light, light | | Weaknesses: | Weaker, Weaker | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | Cannondale FS5000 Team Ride Stock | | Bottom Line: | You definetly can't hammer on these wheels. But they are light and the perfect Xc race wheel. Make sure you have someone who know what they are doing build these up....or even tension them. IF they are not built or tensioned correctly they will fold under you. And you wont be able to do anything about it. Look out if you have the Coda brakes because this is the only wheel that works...only good wheel that is...and mavic is stopping their production after this year. E mail me with questions....I have had to deal with replacing the rims on these quite a bit recently and know the best way to get it done.. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dan Shaw
a Cross Country Rider
from Ontario
Date Reviewed: August 26, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Any single track | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | It as been 15 mths, since last review.The wheel set is working like the first ride | | Weaknesses: | Decals are wearing,rear cartrige bearings are showing signs of wear | | Bike Setup: | Santacruz Superlite | | Bottom Line: | If I were to purchase high end Disc wheel set I would be hard pressed not to look @ Mavic offerings. They simply work un noticed | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
marc
a Cross Country Rider
from central marin
Date Reviewed: August 6, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | B-17 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | stiffness, weight, color(steathy) | | Weaknesses: | rear hub noise | | Similar Products Used: | xtr, white industries, chris king | | Bike Setup: | koski trailmaster, xtr d's, hayes 6", marzocchi z-1, lp composites bars | | Bottom Line: | if riding unauthorized trails being black on black is a must to foil mr. ranger. they fit this need. their ride to this point has brought no complaints. although i weigh in at 155 lbs., i like drop-offs and as big of air as i can get. no tacos yet and i expect my updates will yield the same reponse. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
steven kilburn
a Cross Country Rider
from okinawa, japan
Date Reviewed: April 5, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | sawyer loop, limerick, ME | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | strong, light, all black. | | Weaknesses: | some hub flex. proprietary hubs. | | Similar Products Used: | xt 221. | | Bike Setup: | sc heckler, z2bam, xt, hayes. | | Bottom Line: | pretty good wheels. i only have the front on at the moment. i noticed the front wheel was significantly stiffer than my xt 221 wheel. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Eric
a Cross Country Rider
from South Lyon, MI
Date Reviewed: April 5, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | * Lightweight
* Strength
* Looks | | Weaknesses: | * Can't rebuild hubs / spokes yourself
* Nice looking black spokes begin to fade @ 5 months
* Can get custom wheels for less $$ and just as light. | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic Elites (road), White hubs, Hugi Hubs, Mavic 217 rims. | | Bike Setup: | Tomac "78-Special" full suspension | | Bottom Line: | Well, I was motivated to write this review after the bad experience of the last reviewer.......
I've ridden these wheels pretty hard for about 5 months now and have not had any problems. I have put these wheels in my truing stand (just to check) a couple times and they have'nt budged versus brand new. Oh ya, I almost forgot to mention I race sport Clydesdale at 215 lbs.! Not sure what lame, bad wheels the last reviewer got.....
However when I do need new wheels, I think I will go Chris King disc-go-techs with custom build-up. You can get em' just as light for lower $. The Mavics make me a little uncomfortable because you can't really service them yourself...... | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Austin martin
a Cross Country Rider
from Takoma Park, MD, USA
Date Reviewed: April 5, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Whitetail Ski Area | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Lite,look cool. | | Weaknesses: | weak,high maintenance,loud. | | Similar Products Used: | paper plates | | Bike Setup: | Schwinn Homegrown 4-Banger | | Bottom Line: | this set came with the bike. I do not recomend them to any ridder over 160 Lbs. At 180 Lbs., I taco-ed my front wheel on my first ride making a turn on flat smoothe ground at low speed. Whats up with that? The rear fell apart 2 weeks latter. Have fun on the hike and bike path! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
D Shaw
a Cross-Country Rider
from ontario canada
Date Reviewed: May 24, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
dagmar red trail | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
wheel set components all from mavic hubs are silky smooth.strong light | | Weaknesses: |
because of tight spoke tension, pinging can be heard on high speed flats | | Bike Setup: |
99 Jamis el diablo full xtr hayes,fox r float | | Bottom Line: | After 4mths of hard use I am happy with mavic wheel systems | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Kent
a Weekend Warrior
from Morris county NJ
Date Reviewed: May 23, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
light weight
Rims stay very true | | Weaknesses: |
high tension spokes can create pinging and other vibration related noises etc. | | Similar Products Used: |
SPIN Composite, Mavic 217, 517 | | Bottom Line: | There are other lightweight and probably stronger wheelsets out there (Dave's Wheels, Cane Creek, Spinergy Spox, etc).. But I've got roughly 2,500 miles on this wheelset, and so far I've only had minor problems requiring simple tweeks.At the moment, if I were replace this wheelset, I'd be inclined to look into Spox. But that's probably about the only competitor I'd really give credence to.. But I certainly would like to see more competition for Mavic. | | Overall Rating: |
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