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Submitted by
matthew moscardini
a Weekend Warrior
from newburyport, ma usa
Date Reviewed: May 7, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | friend | | Strengths: | bombproof | | Weaknesses: | no longer available? | | Bike Setup: | specialized stumpjumper, nixon forks, marzocchi hubs | | Bottom Line: | Came with the frame over 10 years ago and still going strong. I changed the front hub to a 20mm to work with a psylo xc (junk) and then nixons- kept the rim. I would like to switch over to a disc specific rim set but really can't justify it. They work and never need to be trued. I have heard the spokes buckle and and ping on more than a few occasions but they always stay true. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tim
a
from Orlando, FL
Date Reviewed: August 14, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | OEM on my Bianchi | | Strengths: | Can't break them | | Bottom Line: | 9 years and trued them once! Still going strong | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John
a Weekend Warrior
from Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Date Reviewed: August 8, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | D'Ornellas (came with 1996 GT Ricochet) | | Strengths: | Mavic quality and only had to be trued 2x in 9yrs. | | Weaknesses: | A little light weight and no eyelets. | | Similar Products Used: | Rolf Dolomite Disk, Weinnman Zac-19 (to replace cracked rear Mavic M-238 rim). | | Bike Setup: | 2001 Trek Fuel 90 Disk, 1996 GT Ricochet. | | Bottom Line: | A great rim that came stock on my 1996 GT Ricochet. Only had to be straightened 2x since mid Oct.1996. No dings, dents or scratches on braking surface. Would of been nice to have eyelts to reinforce rim as at 2 eyelets are stress cracks. Front rim is still in excellent condition and the rear was replaced by a Weinnman Zac-19, which isn't as good.
Bottom Line: On an entry level off-road race bike it's great. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
NICK LAMBROU
a Cross Country Rider
from THESSALONIKI/GREECE
Date Reviewed: June 11, 2004 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$20.00 | | Weaknesses: | THEY ARE ONLY COMPATIBLE TO BIKE,NOT CAR ONES | | Bike Setup: | HARDTAIL | | Bottom Line: | THESE RIMS FEEL VERY GOOD WHEN RIDING,SINCE THEY ABSORB WELL ENOUGH EVERY HIT.MOREOVER THEY ARE LIGHT ENOUGH TO MOVE COMFORTABLE WHILE ASCENDING.GOOD VALUE FOR THEIR PRICE.
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Submitted by
Lars
a Weekend Warrior
from AZ
Date Reviewed: May 3, 2004 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$1.00 | | Purchased At: | lbs | | Strengths: | My buddy put these on his bike years ago, then I bought it from him, so I don't know how much they cost.
My buddy beat on them hard (180lbs)doing tricks both in rocks and urban. Then I got them, and beat on them hard as I was learning (way too gung-ho)! It's amazing how well they've held up!
Kepp in mind that these are from several years ago - so perhaps they were better built then??? | | Weaknesses: | Don't last forever.
Needed truing about once a year. | | Bike Setup: | bla bla bla | | Bottom Line: | The are NOT the latest greatest rims. But they survived years of abuse. I'm taking these off and replacing them with new all disk fat FR wheels. Had to just give them the credit they're due!
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Submitted by
RideFast
a Cross Country Rider
from State College
Date Reviewed: April 14, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | these rims came on my bike | | Strengths: | Strong, pretty light | | Weaknesses: | can't think of any | | Similar Products Used: | zac and alex rims | | Bike Setup: | Gt hardtail with LX and XT | | Bottom Line: | I have raced these wheels and i used to ride alot of trials and i have slammed on these wheels for a while are are still rollin. The front rim has never had to be trued and the back wheel other then changing spokes has had to be trued only 3 or 4 times. These wheels are great for anyone! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
max
a Weekend Warrior
from uk
Date Reviewed: December 5, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | cheap+strong | | Weaknesses: | exposed seam | | Bike Setup: | voodoo full sus | | Bottom Line: | front went out of true on first ride down steps!wasnt impressed but after spending some time truing them properly ie. on both planes and then equalising spoke tension i've not had to touch them at all in over 2 years and over 1k miles of aggressive riding and some jumping! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Joseph Baldwin
a Downhiller
from Colorado Springs, CO, USA
Date Reviewed: October 24, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Palmer Park Overall Trail System | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$150.00 | | Purchased At: | Colorado Springs Bikes (or something like that) | | Strengths: | Hmm, easily trued! | | Weaknesses: | Hmm, easily tacoed! | | Similar Products Used: | Hmm... | | Bike Setup: | Extreme! | | Bottom Line: | Well, maybe the bike shop didn't qualify me correctly. I told them I do major drops, they majorly ignored me or just didn't tune the rims correctly. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ed
a Cross Country Rider
from Lakewood, Ca
Date Reviewed: May 19, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | Came w/ bike | | Strengths: | Last long w/ out much maint ( front rim ) | | Weaknesses: | Comes out of true easily ( rear rim ) | | Bike Setup: | Schwinn hardtail | | Bottom Line: | The wheels came w/ the bike when I bought it new. The front rim has held up quite well. The rear rim, though, has come out of true a few times and it seems to happen in the same spots. It finally got to the point that i replaced the rear rim w/ a Mavic F519. I'll review that one soon.
Bottome line: good front rim. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
MARK INFUSINO
a Cross Country Rider
from HONESDALE, PA USA
Date Reviewed: April 23, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | STRONG AND LIGHT. TROUBLE FREE MAKES YOU FORGET ABOUT THEM | | Weaknesses: | SEAM ON THE BRAKING SURFACE | | Similar Products Used: | NONE | | Bike Setup: | VOODOO ERZULIE,INDY W/SPEEDSPRINGS,STX DERAILERS,TITEC STEM HANDELBAR & SEATPOST.WTB SST SADDLE | | Bottom Line: | I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE LAST REVIEWER, I HAVE HAD THESE RIMS FOR A YEAR NOW AND THEY HAVE NEVER NEEDED TRUING. (I WEIGHT OVER 200 LBS) THESE ARE CROSS COUNTRY RIMS, NOT DESIGNED FOR 6 FOOT DROPS ON CEMENT. THE SEAM ON THE RIMS DOES MAKE FOR A SHORTER BRAKE LIFE, BUT MY CHEAP SHIMANO BRAKE PADS LASTED 9 MONTHS(I WAS GLAD TO GET RID OF THEM) | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John Lara
a Cross Country Rider
from Whitesboro, NY
Date Reviewed: April 15, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Mohawk valley | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$50.00 | | Purchased At: | Bike Shop | | Strengths: | Light, strong, reliable, and fast | | Weaknesses: | Nothing I can think of | | Similar Products Used: | Weiman 517s, mavic 217 | | Bike Setup: | Trek 800, upgraded with Judy TTs, and all alivio drivetrain, and XT hubs | | Bottom Line: | I like these Rims, for the front that is where I have them. I can only imagine that the only reason people have talked trash about these in the past is that Mavic's Qaulity control took a vacation between late 98 and early 00 when most of the people seem to be complaing from. Other than that, I love these rims, and I am a hardtail loving ubran assault nutcase on my commute | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
andrusha
a Racer
from Ukraine
Date Reviewed: February 23, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Weaknesses: | None | | Bottom Line: | I'm the biketrials rider from Ukraine
I used these rims for 3 months and they were quite ok.
They was perfectly normal ,even when I had seriously crashed
they endured ! I am pretty happy with them
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Submitted by
Greg
a Weekend Warrior
from Toronto
Date Reviewed: September 6, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Urban | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | Bike Zone | | Strengths: | they are good for xc, dont do drops over 2 feet | | Weaknesses: | i finally warped the front rim badly in one spot, off a 10 set at the skydome, it was like 6 feet high, it was fun | | Similar Products Used: | nothing | | Bike Setup: | voodoo erzulie, manitou spyder 2 inch travel (uprgrading soon) | | Bottom Line: | only buy these rims for xc trailriding, dont try big urban on these. it has seen a helluvalotta stairs and small drops except for that one big 40k+ one. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chad
a Weekend Warrior
from Orlando
Date Reviewed: June 26, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Hardrock | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | came on bike | | Strengths: | Tough as nails | | Weaknesses: | I can see the seams | | Bike Setup: | Proflex 756 w/ Noleen Elite (linkage) front fork and RisseRacing rear suspension | | Bottom Line: | I was riding along at high speed with the old fork (Girvin Linkage that came on the bike), hit a jump and landed with the front wheel turned perpandicular to the direction I was riding. The wheel didn't come out of true...the fork bent!, thus the new Noleen Elite.
Strong wheels! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Justin Kuntz
a Downhiller
from Simi Valley, CA
Date Reviewed: June 8, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Madera up to the cross | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$100.00 | | Purchased At: | wheel world | | Strengths: | good, light & strong | | Weaknesses: | cant withstand an '85 caddy | | Bike Setup: | 1997 gt pantera | | Bottom Line: | good and light | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dan S
a
from Kirtland
Date Reviewed: November 8, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | Came stock on bike | | Strengths: | Affordable, decent strength | | Weaknesses: | Sidewall hardness | | Bike Setup: | GT Pantera | | Bottom Line: | Rims were stock on bike and have not needed much attention. A lot of people indicate that the 238's don't hold up well. I weigh 160 and do not consider my riding style to be exceptionally kind to wheels. The 238's have not given me any problems. One area that I ride has a stepped, rocky climb that requires a lot of speed to climb. There are usually several hard impacts on the way up but these rims have survived quite well time and time again. Maybe I'm lucky or maybe the people with the complaints are more abusive than I am. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nic
a Weekend Warrior
from London, UK
Date Reviewed: October 2, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Light, good looking | | Weaknesses: | severe seam join | | Bike Setup: | Muddy Fox Rock 'n' Roll Pro, Z3 Lights | | Bottom Line: | I've not noticed any problem with the strength yet, although I'd imagine the seam on the breaking surface will make short work of my break blocks. Running my finger over the seam is like running it over a cheese grater... I'll probably upgrade soon. | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jeff
a
from Memphis
Date Reviewed: July 25, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Cheap, they've stayed true for me | | Weaknesses: | Old 36 spoke version, hard to replace | | Bottom Line: | I got these rims from Supergo on XTR hubs for dirt cheap. I use them to commute to work and so far haven't had any problems with truing in a year and this is after using them every day rain or shine. Maybe you can't drop off cliffs with them but they are recreational rims and for what they are intended they are a good rim. If you want a cheap set of XTR hubs(pre 95) and some good rims for commuting and light trails, you can't beat the price. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Drew
a Cross Country Rider
from San Pedro, CA
Date Reviewed: May 6, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Value (if they stay true), | | Weaknesses: | Braking surface | | Similar Products Used: | Weinman 519's | | Bike Setup: | VooDoo Bantu, Manitou LT, STX-XC, LX V-brakes, Ritchey ClimbMax,Titec Enduro handlebar, seatpost, stem. | | Bottom Line: | I guess I have to count myself among the fortunate ones. Only trued once in 18 months. Wish they held the brakes better, added boostes did help. Rims came stock on bike, will definitely upgrade when they go out on me. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Michael Cortez
a Cross Country Rider
from Tempe, AZ, USA
Date Reviewed: February 20, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | National | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | Rigid and hold true through just about anything | | Weaknesses: | Non machined surfaces..eat brake pads. | | Bike Setup: | Trek 850 rigid with rock shox...on shimano xt hubs... | | Bottom Line: | I have put over 3300 miles on these rims and have had them trued once....not cause they needed it was part of the bike shops routine service package. I have only good things to say about these rims. Have gone through too many set of tires to mention and of course lots of brake pads. I am a 200+ rider and these rims seem to taking a licking and keep on spinning... | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
josh
a Racer
from east hampton, CT, USA
Date Reviewed: February 3, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Gypsy moth | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | strong, cheap, work fine | | Weaknesses: | cant see any | | Similar Products Used: | mavic 217, sun | | Bike Setup: | 1997 GT pantera with a 97 manitou sx fork | | Bottom Line: | a lot of people talk trash about these rims, but i just don't see why. I have ridden them for more than three years, through everything. i have won races on them, ridden trials events, and just plain went riding on them. The sidewalls havent worn through, even after several thousand miles, and they have never bent to the point were i couldn't easily true them. maybe its becaue i only weigh 135 lbs, but i ride these rims hard, and they take it. For the price, they are great. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Francois Gamache
a Downhiller
from Brossard,Québec,Canada
Date Reviewed: February 3, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | cheap | | Weaknesses: | not durable,weak | | Similar Products Used: | Sun Mammoth | | Bike Setup: | specialized 98" rim brake magura classic, with booster, | | Bottom Line: | Just avoid this product, the price is cheap but the produc is cheap too, I am only 125 lbs and each time I go to a trail I must truing the wheel after, They are weak, and if you use a Hydrolique rim brake just forget the idea to use this rim.
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Submitted by
cathy bull
a Cross-Country Rider
from north bay On
Date Reviewed: November 20, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
walder creek | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
cheap | | Weaknesses: |
not durable | | Similar Products Used: |
syncros
sun
mavic 217(lots of these) | | Bike Setup: |
Spec M4
Z2
Maguras | | Bottom Line: | lasted less than a season
little sidewall wear but cracked anyway
Can anyone make a decent rim? Help! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Branden Johannesen
a Weekend Warrior
from Santa Cruz, CA
Date Reviewed: November 5, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
lockem' ups | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Strengths: |
i don't really know. i guess they held up to a beating for about a year. | | Weaknesses: |
the spokes pulled through the eyelets. this rim is pretty weak.
headache. | | Bike Setup: |
GT Tequesta, Indy XC, | | Bottom Line: | these rims needed constant truing until the eyelets started to cracked; they are now useless. i would not recommend them. they were a big headache. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Steve
a Cross-Country Rider
from Sarnia, Ontario
Date Reviewed: September 9, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Bottom Line: | These rims originally came with my bike and I have since then upgraded to something better. I weigh 165lbs and would warp them on the slightest bump. I seemed to be spending more time truing them than actually riding them. I would hesitate to sneeze around them for fear that they would come apart! If you plan to do any serious riding I would definately recommend upgrading to something better. I did, and it's made my life much easier.I ended up putting road tires on the 238's so if I'm riding around town or on my trainer they're there. If you do the same don't even think of doing stairs or something. I'd give them 3 chilies for riding on the road but -3 chilies in the trails. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Richard C. Ralph
a Cross-Country Rider
from APO, AP
Date Reviewed: September 1, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
None to thing of | | Weaknesses: |
Very Weak & dangerous | | Similar Products Used: |
Mavic 222 | | Bike Setup: |
93 Specialized Rockhopper (rigid) | | Bottom Line: | I and local bike shop have attempted to correct this rear wheel numerous times, the next time I commute to work the next day the thing is immediately starting to come apart. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
et
a Cross-Country Rider
from israel
Date Reviewed: July 26, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
whatever | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Weaknesses: |
weak | | Bike Setup: |
specialized M2
manitou pro 97 | | Bottom Line: | i'm only 120lbs and the thing keeps needing to be trued after every ride. last week i jumped a curve in town and the back rim bent , i mean inwards!!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Micheal Barron
a Cross-Country Rider
from Thorold,Ontario
Date Reviewed: July 16, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Short Hills | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
I didn't even have to trew it up once yet and I ride pretty hard and I weigh 190 pounds | | Weaknesses: |
Not machined surfaces | | Similar Products Used: |
I 've tried the 217 SUP ,practically the same | | Bike Setup: |
99'Voodoo Bantu,Manitou Spyder fork | | Bottom Line: | I think it is a great valuve for the price | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
JAGUAR
a Weekend Warrior
from Singapore
Date Reviewed: July 11, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
anywhere | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
light, nice looking, name | | Weaknesses: |
the structure is weak, its squeak when there is oil, | | Similar Products Used: |
none | | Bike Setup: |
Wheeler 4000 czx, RST Hi-5 Downhill Sup, Cane Creek Ad-5, Front back XTR hubs, Mavic 238. | | Bottom Line: | It is light and nice looking, the price is well to do, but it is quite weak, becouse my back rims get sucks when i make a heavy bounce on it everytime. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jeremy
a Weekend Warrior
from Connecticut
Date Reviewed: June 14, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
fairly light | | Weaknesses: |
weak, bad braking surface | | Similar Products Used: |
about to upgrade | | Bike Setup: |
97 GT Karakoram, 96 Judy XC | | Bottom Line: | These rims suck. I've had them for around 3 months, and I'm going to see if I can get the warranty to come through on them. The spokes created stress marks all the way around the rim...I only weigh 150 lbs and I don't ride real hard, so there's no reason these should have done this bad. I only have about 150 miles on them, with about 50-60 being on the road. It's a good thing they don't sell these anymore. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Eric
a Cross-Country Rider
from Champaign and Jacksonville, IL
Date Reviewed: June 7, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
The front rim is still straight | | Weaknesses: |
The back rim is no more durable than a paper clip | | Similar Products Used: |
None yet. I'm just beginning my search | | Bike Setup: |
97 StumpJumper M2, Manitou Pro shock, rear hub is an LX, front is Specialized. | | Bottom Line: | Last weekend I was riding around with a couple of my boyz on some WEEEEEEEAK trails around the outskirts of town. Being that any trail around here is about a tenth of a mile long, I abruptly ran out of trail, and like the unskilled goof that I am, I tried to turn around and fell. We're talking zero miles per hour, didn't even hurt, soft, embarrassing fall. But it knocked my rear wheel so far out of true that it was hitting the frame!!!!! We're talking the wimpiest crash on record, and the wheel is potato chipped worse than it would've been if I'd had road rims on the bike! I am sorely disappointed in these wimpy rims. Hopefully I'll have a new back rim (NOT a Mavic 238!!!!) within the week. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
covin
a Cross-Country Rider
from austin, tx
Date Reviewed: May 4, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
kind of cheap | | Weaknesses: |
heavy, not very strong, yucky braking surface | | Bottom Line: | huess you cant expect it to work as well as something that costs twice as much, but it has ben pretty frustrating getting the damn things trued after every 3 or 4 good rides. im only about 150, and dont do very much *really* hard riding. 3 flaming pieces of feces | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jeremy
a Weekend Warrior
from New York
Date Reviewed: April 19, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
Fairly light
good front | | Weaknesses: |
soft, slick braking, back comes out of true easy | | Bike Setup: |
1997 GT Karakoram (new), 96 Judy XC, all LX | | Bottom Line: | Not too bad, not too good. I got the rims with my bike about 3 weeks ago. The front is doing pretty good...the back is a different story. I had it trued after about 45 miles on the road, now I have to get it done after my first major ride offroad with it (technical--lots of rocks and roots). It's not far out, but needs to be trued. Rear also has a dent in the sidewall that needs to get taken out. Not a bad rim, but I may upgrade soon if this keeps up. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Luke Hayward
a Weekend Warrior
from grand Bend ont.
Date Reviewed: April 19, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
no strengths this rim sucks dick | | Weaknesses: |
stayed true for about a week | | Similar Products Used: |
mavic 231
sun ryno's | | Bike Setup: |
rockey montain hard tail | | Bottom Line: | Got the rims professionly built stayed true for about a week. I weigh 6' 5 and weigh 180 pounds, and I don't belive rims should bend for some one of my weight. I however have had no problem with the 231 in the front | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
MIKE DEE
a Racer
from CANADA
Date Reviewed: April 17, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
POLEY MOUNTAIN | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
THE STRONGEST RIM'S THAT I HAVE EVER RIDDEN I HAVE RECKED ALLOT OF RIM'S BUTT THIS HELD UP. | | Weaknesses: |
THERE ARE NONE. | | Similar Products Used: |
MAVIC 217 ZAC19 | | Bike Setup: |
BOMBER Z3 | | Bottom Line: | THESE ARE ENEXPENSIVE AND AUSOME | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Eric
a Cross-Country Rider
from Champaign, IL
Date Reviewed: April 9, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Kickapoo State Park | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Similar Products Used: |
none yet | | Bike Setup: |
1997 Specialized StumpJumper M2
brand new--what a find!
1997 Manitou Pro | | Bottom Line: | I bought a 1997 Specialized StumpJumper M2 brand new (!) a week ago. Mavic 238s came stock on it. I didn't even get a chance to take it on a real trail because it was raining last weekend. So I took it around the streets in my hometown and on a puny, flat, smooth trail (~1/2 mile). The biggest bumps I hit were a few (small) curbs. Somehow, in about 2 hours of fairly easy riding, the back rim went far enough out of true that I had to take it in. My LBS was able to get it straight so it fits between the brake pads, but it's not quite a circle any more, which means I had to spend a good 15 minutes screwing with the back brake setting. It rolls, but it doesn't exactly instill confidence to have a never-ridden wheel get bent on minute amounts of wimpy riding. I am a pretty big kid (6'1, 210 lbs), but I make a point not to hit stuff too hard when it's possible. I'm an optimistic guy, so I'm going to assume that this is just an unfortunate isolated incident; therefore I'll give them an extra flamin' chili pepper, bringing the total up to a whopping 2. I'll re-post when I've got a few more miles on them. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Adam
a Weekend Warrior
from Milton, FL
Date Reviewed: March 14, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Pontiac Lake S. P. MI | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Bottom Line: | Fairly light, but mine eat brake pads, and I cannot keep the rear in true to save my life. My current streak is eight rides without major trueing, but I consider that to be luck and NW Florida sand. If they weren't so cheap, they wouldn't be worth the money. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
tom thumb
a weekend warrior
from Delta B.C.
Date Reviewed: March 11, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
The only compliment that I can give these rims is that they look pretty cool. I used to have a set of these rims on my specialized but thanks to wheel hop and constant truing of my rims, once every two rides, I have now switched to a set of sum rims, which have the triple wall design. I don't know what Mavic was drinking or smoking when they made these rims. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Travis Kelley
a cross-country rider
from Auburn, CA
Date Reviewed: February 20, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
These rims have over 2000 miles on them, and I've never trued them once (140 lbs.) They are really heavy, but I'm also using and Alivio hub and spokes that are like lead. Finally replacing them after riding 20 miles downhill on a flat (really technical with dropoffs) I give them 5 for durability, but take off one for weight. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
David Farmer
a weekend warrior
from Huxley, IA USA
Date Reviewed: February 14, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
These rims came with my 1997 Schwinn Moab1. It is the best bike out there, but the rims on it suck. Had them for 10 months and some spokes broke off while riding on smooth pavement. I replaced the spokes and trued it, but 3 weeks later is was wobbly again. Rode it one more time and more spokes brokw off. But I am 6'3 and weigh 225 and I ride very hard and don't slow down for nothing. O.K. rims for woosy riders but suck if you ride hard. Everything else on the Schwinn is awesome and I have'nt had any problems other than these crappy rims. With such a good bike you would think they would put on good rims. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
me
a cross-country rider
from Boulder CO
Date Reviewed: February 9, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
I have had this rim for a long time with no problems. I ride a lot of stairs and downhill sometimes, but the 238 has not gone out of true (I am a kid, 85lbs, so I hope they would not go out of true). | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dennis
a weekend warrior
from michigan
Date Reviewed: December 6, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
these are nice rims, i ride up and down staircases several time a week on campus and they stay pretty true. they have stayed straight and have not been trued since i got the bike in june | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Aaron
a racer
from Mass
Date Reviewed: November 9, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have had the 238's for some time now, and I haven't had any problems. The have only gone out of true twice in two years. Although I have changed know to a Mavic Crossland front, and a 517 rear with ti spokes and a king hub, I would definately get the 238's. They are cheap and work great. I do trials on my 238's as well and I still haven't had any problems, although this may be due to the fact that I had a profetional wheel biulder make them, and also I ride a full suspention bike. Other than the wieght there good rims. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
James
a cross-country rider
from Edmonds WA
Date Reviewed: October 19, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I bought a Mavic 238 rim 2 years ago as a replacement for rim I had taco'ed... It was cheap and I never figured it would last. I built the wheel up myself and only had to true a couple of times..and I weigh 190. It has lasted me through 2 years of hard riding, many crashes and countless v-brake pads.
Alas...the effect of all those brake pads rubbing against the rim has finally taken it's toll and it's time to replace it. I think this is the first front rim I have had actually wear out on me before I had the chance to taco it...
I would reccomend this rim to anyone looking for a good, inexpensive, strong wheel. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave
a cross-country rider
from Littleton, CO
Date Reviewed: October 4, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I got this rim for my rear wheel after a day of downhilling at Brekinridge (on a hardtail, smart) shattered my previous rim (some POS Araya). The guy at my LBS gave it to me for ten bucks, so I went for it. It's held up well for the last six months, no truing at all. It's taken me up and down some hairy stuff, almost all the trails around here are dust and rock, we don't really get much soft soil. Foot-tall drop-offs are pretty standard for water bars. What can I say, these things stay in true on rough trails on a hardtail. NOTE: they were built by a master wheelbuilder, that probably has a lot to do with it. they aren't that light though | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave
a cross-country rider
from North Bay, ON
Date Reviewed: August 12, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
How can such a big name company put out such a crappy product? I used to ride 217's but the sidewall wear was so rapid, I couldn't justify paying the money for them. I switched to 238's and unfortuately, I haven't had time to wear out the sidewall as I pulled a spoke and nipple through the rim. I have also done that to a 217. Absolutely no more mavics for me! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chang
a weekend warrior
from korea
Date Reviewed: August 2, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I bought last saturday my first really expensive (maybe just to me,a Manomano of Kona)bike.
But after my first quarter minutes of riding (not on a crazy downhill but in a park!)the rear rim bent...
As I don't know much about produts companies I only notice after than that my
bike was fited with these fragile rims... | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Simon
a weekend warrior
from Singapore
Date Reviewed: July 31, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
These came stock on my Heckler. I've been using them for over a year with moderate riding without need for having to true them once.
Mavic describes them as touring and trekking rims, so don't expect them to perform as well as 217, X517 or Crossmax.For general all round riding they will suffice. However, the machined sidewalls (UB process) seem to be rather smooth compared to the other pricier models. Furthermore, without the SUP feature, the jointed seam is rather obvious. Hey, you get what you pay for, right?3 flamin' jalapenos rated on pure functionality. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
TIm Slade
a weekend warrior
from London, England
Date Reviewed: July 30, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Thes rims KICK ASS!
I work as a courier and didn't have a problem with them, 'till I hit the back of a car sideways when I was doing 30MPH and the car was stationary. Then the guy at the shop still managed to true it for me, but it needs replacing, 'cause its twisted. The guy a t the shop said he'd never seen a 238 do that before and asked how i amnaged it! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Joshua Pelland
a weekend warrior
from Williamsburg, MA
Date Reviewed: July 25, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
These came stock on my GT LTS-3 and I thought wow Mavics, these will never bend!. I was just a little bit off. These are the most unpredictable rims I have ever seen. I can ride it downhill for a day and they will be straight, but then as I ride home on the road they will get bent. Before every ride I have to spend 10 minutes and true them.
I think that they are possessed because sometimes overnight, when I have not ridden the bike and its sitting in my garage, the rims get bent.
I can't recommend these rims to anyone, even casual riders because they bend in the driveway. The braking surface is a bit slick, but not as bad as some of the other reviewers might lead you to believe. The best part about this rim is the Mavic Equipped sticker that comes with the bike when you get them.
I'll probably upgrade to a Mustang Asymetrical rim because I heard they were good and they are not too expensive.
I'll have to give it two stars because sometimes it holds out surprisingly well, and because its taught me how to true rims very well. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Patrick Do Trong
a weekend warrior
from montreal canada
Date Reviewed: July 21, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Mavic is the best there is and they will be forever!I don't have the 238 but i'am a proud owner of THE MAVIC X138.The x138 is a newer version of the 238.The x138 is an all around rim which have proven itself in the croos country scenes!the x of x138 means that thus rim is built to use in cross country riding conditions!My 138 are mounted on shimano parallax hub model stx and sports dt swiss revolution spokes.The x138 is really solid ,they are so solid that they can take abuse like dropping off a 3 foot drop!pretty sweal for an entry level rim!hey fool!These babies can eat bunny hops like ayogour,i meant that they are really solid!MAVIC RULES!so, i guest i'am the firts one who writes about the rim, i'am a pionner !x138 x138 x138 x138 x138 | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Patt P
a weekend warrior
from Beautiful British Columbia
Date Reviewed: June 17, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
These Rims are a complete dissapointment. I have trued these triple coiler rims so many times they just will not go straight. These must have been an entry level rim, because they super suck!!! I plan to replace these veeeerrrry soon with the D521, who cares about weight, if I did I wouldn't drink all that
premium German BEER!!!! Go with somthing else, maybe a 517. I'll give two stars only because they have lasted for a couple months. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
JOE M
a cross-country rider
from Ontario Canada
Date Reviewed: June 14, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
CRUD AWEFULL FAT PUKEY UGLY SCARY , is what these rims are. I just bought a beautiful new Voodoo, and after my first ride, these rims make me want to cry. I 've bent the front and rear one, and I have to spend about half and hour trueing them every time before a ride. I'm starting to wonder if the retailer put these rims on in hope I would fork out 20 bucks a week to get HIM to fix them. I can't wait for my next paycheck, so I can get some decent rims. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Luke
a
from cross-country rider
Date Reviewed: May 18, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I am surprised that Mavic, could make something os such awful quality. I had them for about 3 months, during which I had them trued 5 times. Even a skilled mechanic couldn't prevent them from warping and hitting my beak pads. They developed stress cracks after about a month of hard ridding. Not worth a penny, they caused me more agravation then anything. THEY SUCK THE LEFT NUT. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris
a cross-country rider
from Toronto, Canada
Date Reviewed: May 14, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I would like to know how some people treat their equipment. I weigh 200 lbs and have raced xc many times on these rims. On a weekly basis I ride about 150 km to and from work with Nimbus III's and haven't had to have the wheels fail me yet (knock on wood.) For the value you get out of these rims you can't go wrong. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
James Jacobsen
a weekend warrior
from U.K.
Date Reviewed: April 21, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
These rims are nice. I like them as they are fairly cheap and strong enough for use off road and jumping. I agree with alot of the others that they do need trueing, but not as often as they make out. maybe once every other week, but still I think that I can cope with that for the amount saved rather than buying 121's. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jimmy
a weekend warrior
from BC
Date Reviewed: February 22, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
These rims stink! The braking surface is so smooth, that it takes forever to stop with maguras. Also, they become untrue OVERNIGHT. Honestly, I don't even need to ride my bike off-road for them to become criticaly untrue. Just five minutes of riding around the driveway will do. Don't buy them, and if they come stock, replace them, like I'm about to. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
W.G.MacDougall
a downhiller
from
Date Reviewed: January 26, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Last year I road the 238's and they worked alright but the reason that I olny say 2 start is because they can not take very much abuse. Everyday I road I had to true the wheels after wards and then one day they just broke. They were nice while they lasted. I think that they are good but they can not take much abuse. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Gerardo Zanini
a weekend warrior
from San Diego, CA
Date Reviewed: December 22, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
These came on my StumpJumper I bought recently. I am quite pleased with these
wheels so far. I weight 180 and I'm fairly agressive rider. Afer a dozen rides
I had to true them once and they are still incredibly straight. I recommend
these wheels unless you are a heavier rider and do alot of DH. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Keith
a weekend warrior
from Hi
Date Reviewed: December 22, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I used the 238 rims for cross country and downhilling. They are a very good all around rim. I bent my back rim down hilling only because I did not put on my down hill tires. I have change the back rim and I make sure I use down hill tires when I go down hilling. I have not had any problems with the back since then. Also when I change the back rim it did not hurt so much because the 238 are one of the cheaper rims around. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Graeme Robinson
a weekend warrior
from Australia
Date Reviewed: November 26, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I've gone through one 238 rear, and I'm still riding on another with two broken spokes that is so out of whack that it's a wonder it rolls. Nevertheless I took it, perhaps a little foolishly, down some big rough hills last weekend and it didn't get any worse. That has restored my confidence in the quality of the wheel - they are really only bent because I slam gutters going to work weekdays. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mr. Me
a weekend warrior
from WI, USa
Date Reviewed: November 12, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I was bestowed with the 238s on my 97 GT Ricochet and I must say its a nice front tire..but the back one is being kicked out of my house..after 2 weeks of normally parkin lot..the rear is bent..not side to side but its got a bulge goin in...what a dissapointment...gonna go with a Richtey OCR..check it out!And if any one has one please share info...4 Tamales for the front..and 1 for the reaer | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Gerald Shurlow
a racer
from Greenville,Il
Date Reviewed: November 11, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
R2d rear WTB Powerbeam with 238 after failure in a Norba race-Sport class at Castlewood State Park in Mo. on a long twisty rocky downhill section (Lone Wolf trail). Rebuilt wheel myself with Nuke Proof Bomshell cassette hub and 1.8 mm spokes. Raced it several more times, ride it to school everyday, and play around in parking lots bunny hopping and jumping off ramps and this wheel is still rock solid. I only weigh 140 lbs and am somewhat of a finesse rider. I love light wheels and although there are lighter rims out there I'll take the few extra grams of the 238 for the complete confidence I have with this wheel. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
midi
a weekend warrior
from canada
Date Reviewed: October 20, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
hi..
i had this rim for about 3 months now..after abusing them,..they seem quite ok to me..they didnot bend,.even i jumped and jumped...
it is a little bit heavy but it is a great rim for the price...
somebody said the bend the rims..i dont know how,..but may be because of their weight..and i only weight about 56 kg..:)
| | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Clayton
a cross-country rider
from Carbondale, IL
Date Reviewed: October 1, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Taco City,
These rims suck I have them on my new bike. During my first race I folded the front one so badly it couldn't spin thru the fork and it's so messed up it had to be replaced. Later that week I bent the back one while riding back from the bike store to buy a new rim. This rims are as stiff as a cooked noodle. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bud
a cross-country rider
from FINLAND
Date Reviewed: September 24, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Very stiff and good looking.The only bad side is that they dont have ub-controll.Mine where allso put togheter by a real bad mechanic and they got bent att my first real ride but since i let my dad loose on them they have been pretty strait after that.good rims (bad mechanic).kauppaveljet sucks. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
bud
a
from FINLAND
Date Reviewed: September 24, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
very stiff and light .bad becouse they dont have ub-controll
| | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Geek
a cross-country rider
from
Date Reviewed: September 23, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I´ve got a pair of these rims and i think they are kinda good but when you abuse them really good you´ll get em bent.but what can you expect from a pretty poor mechanic in a store called kauppaveljet in Helsinki Finland.they where terrible.but now they are pretty good thanks to my dad. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Scott Kopiec
a weekend warrior
from Tucson, AZ
Date Reviewed: August 28, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Had a pair for approx 1 year now and I have only had to touch them up once. They appear to be strong, stiff rims. In my experience who builds the wheels as what kind of rims that you use..... | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Pete J
a cross-country rider
from USA
Date Reviewed: August 22, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I like these rims. I've rode them hard for over a year and there still doing good. The only thing I think could be improved is the rim seam. It had to be filed down slightly. For all you people out there bitchin' that they got a little bit wobbly after the first ride, remember that things stretch out (cables, spokes, etc.). I work in a bike shop and see people bring in 220s and 217s that have some wobble after the first ride. After a little touch up they all hold up great. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Paul
a weekend warrior
from Southampton
Date Reviewed: August 20, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I've got Mavic 238's on my Scott and after a years hard riding they're still in good shape, or they were until some kindly car driver auditioned me for the Moscow state circus acrobatic troop, the rear rim is now slightly out of true. Not too bad under the circumstances, did anyone get that guys number? | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Fred
a cross-country rider
from New Zealand
Date Reviewed: August 15, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I got 238 standard, and they have done pretty well, I have to remove small buckles, but that is probably due to my skills in wheel straightening. The front did get a nice dent in the side wall, which was quite easy to hammer out, but now the braking isn't smooth. Shit happens. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Stian Bakken
a weekend warrior
from Norway
Date Reviewed: July 30, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Not bad at all. My Co-rider had to get himself a pair of 121 instead of his 217 which were being bent in all directions every ride, but I go on with my 238. Solid as any rock I've met! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris
a cross-country rider
from Baltimore, MD
Date Reviewed: July 21, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I beat the shit out of my 238's. The rear finally went tacoville but the front is still rolling.
I gave the rim to my son and he rolls it down our hill into trees, fence, swingset and this rim will not break. I wish I could still get these.
| | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Willy Monroy
a racer
from Guatemala
Date Reviewed: June 17, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I've just been in a race and I was going down a hill with mud and rocks, I got a little out of control and hit a rock with my back tire and the rim almost bent in half. This rims are too fragile and not very good on rough terrain | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dan The Man Lipski
a cross-country rider
from North Carolina
Date Reviewed: May 25, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Great Rims!!!! I thought I would get some 121 rims, but with the performance I have been getting from these I changed my mined. Incredible!!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris Popp
a cross-country rider
from Oak View, CA
Date Reviewed: April 26, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
My DBR V-link 3.1 came w/238's stock w/15/16 db spokes. The rear wheel would not stay true even after moderate riding conditions. I weigh 185 lbs and have a fairly aggressive riding style, but mondo by any means. I rebuilt the rear whell using straight 14/15 db spokes and things have been a little better. But, I noticed that I have developed stress marks on the rim surfaces at the spoke nipples. I think the 238's are good rims for either lighter weight riders and/or less aggressive riders. Mavic identifies the rims as best for touring and easy trekking. I'm going to replace the rims with some others (217, 220, or Specialized Z-23). I rate these rims as 3 chilis. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Scott Duckworth
a cross-country rider
from Acworth, GA
Date Reviewed: February 28, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
The Mavic 238 is a great rim. I first got them on my GT Tequesta about half a year ago. Since then I have had to replace the rear rim because it was basically trashed. Even though they weren't built by a pro, they still stood up to almost everything I threw at them; I even broke my frame before I totaled them. Now I have a new 238 rear rim built by a pro--BIG DIFFERENCE. I have had it about 2 months now and have only had to true it once after a big fall. Now, my front wheel will bend before my back one will. I strongly suggest these rims to anybody needing some good rims, but get them built by a pro. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike
a cross-country rider
from Mesa, AZ
Date Reviewed: February 23, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
These came with my GT. Thought that hey were great at first, but after ny first ride off road the seam on the rear split apart. This shouldn't have happened, I only weigh 140. That was six months ago and I'm still riding on it, but it goes out of true easily. My front rim is great. Rear must have been defective. Heard great things about them from other peope though. Give tham a try , but check to make sure that the seam is aligned first. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Russell Murchie
a cross-country rider
from Melbourne, Australia
Date Reviewed: January 31, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Got them as standard on my GT, buckled the front on about my third ride, cracked the rear within 5 months, I'm a little guy (5'10) I dont weigh alot, I'm not a 'hardcore' psycho. Guess they're decent value for money though....... | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave
a cross-country rider
from Victoria, BC Canada
Date Reviewed: December 19, 1996 | | Bottom Line: |
I've been running on Mavic 238's now for about a year with no complaints. Had my wheels built by a Pro who knew how to build wheels for fat guys like me (195lbs+). Prior to getting my Mavic 238s I had toasted a slew of front wheels. I'm not sure if it was because of the wheels (Araya RM 17's), the builder (a good mechanic for roadies, doesn't get the MTB thing) or the fork (Macaroni 400's air/oil). I changed all three at once and my problems went away.Add to the reliablity a good wear factor, and a great big huge braking surface and you've got big guy wheel heaven. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Michael Dearman
a cross-country rider
from North Scotland
Date Reviewed: December 16, 1996 | | Bottom Line: |
238's are nice and light and good for the money after a lot of hard rides
they have dropped out of true but nothing seroius | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Al Gidden
a racer
from Austin, TX
Date Reviewed: October 24, 1996 | | Bottom Line: |
I bought a set of 238's because I was tired of getting rims trued and I wanted to make sure I never got a 'sudden failure' in the rim like my friends with 217SUP's. Three people with 217's eventually tacoed their rims when not performing any strenuous stunts.
Since I had the 238's professionally built, I have trained for racing for 20 months and NEVER needed the rims trued. This includes some crashes that took our handlebars and even a crankset!
The 238's are stiffer than the rest of the Mavics, but you pay a price with the weight. One difference is that a stiff rim and a 120TPI tire will keep you from DNF's in a race, even if you have to lug an extra few grams with you to finish.
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR WHEELS BUILT BY A PROFESSIONAL - it makes a BIG difference in how long they last. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rob
a cross-country rider
from Mississippi
Date Reviewed: October 23, 1996 | | Bottom Line: |
I weigh 170 and ride pretty hard, but have had no problems with my 238's. Put my front wheel in a creek last winter hard enough to bend the steerer tube and crush the headset, but the wheel came through just fine. Snapped a spoke on the rear last month, and it needed some minor trueing afterward, but that's been it for maintainence. The balance between light weight and durability seems optimum for xc and all-around riding, the raised center sloughs off mud like it's supposed to, and the price is reasonable, so they rate 5 chilis in my book.Funny though, I have friends who like them as much as I do, and friends who couldn't get rid of theirs fast enough. Maybe these things come from two different sources and I drew a lucky pair. Whatever the case, mine are going strong after 10 months of hard use. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Gabriel Chrisman
a weekend warrior
from Seattle, WA
Date Reviewed: August 27, 1996 | | Bottom Line: |
I got this rim on the rear wheel of my Trek 8000 after the Original Matrix
Singletrack Pro was destroyed when our bike rack fell off of the car.
Compared to the Matrix rim, this one goes out of true far too easily for my
taste. The Matrix rim was still straight when it was destroyed, after 2 years
of use, whereas the Mavic rim is now out of true to the point where the tire
nearly brushes the frame, after a mere 3 months of wear. If you're looking
for low cost rims that are strong enough, forget these. On the plus side, they
are pretty light... | | Overall Rating: |
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