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Submitted by
pokz
a Weekend Warrior
from manila,phil
Date Reviewed: June 24, 2009 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | kings | | Strengths: | price, strong, light | | Weaknesses: | none so far | | Bike Setup: | ht | | Bottom Line: | it works for my use...trail and road. bang for the buck.
not as light like expensive brand, but still very tough and light for xc/am use.since i have this, they still working fine without truing!
no regrets....plan to upgrade my spokes and nipples. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
fuentes_88
a Weekend Warrior
from Monterrey, NL, Mexico
Date Reviewed: March 22, 2009 | | Favorite Trail: | Huasteca | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$200.00 | | Purchased At: | Bicycle World RGV | | Strengths: | Bought this wheel about 4 years ago but I'm going to write a review since I think it deserves it. Today the rear wheel punctured on the beggining of the second lap of a race and since I had ran out of spares I decided to duke out the last lap with no air whatsoever on the rear wheel, all 10 KM of it. Of course I ended up in last place but when I checked the rim for damage there was non whatsoever. Maybe it was the lack of big rocks on the course but it is still impressive. | | Weaknesses: | A bit on the heavy side? | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic 317 on front wheel. | | Bike Setup: | Full Deore XT, rst air fork, Mercedes car.ry frame. Propietary components | | Bottom Line: | True It Once a year and forget about it. Will not fail before you do. | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Daniel Johnson
a Cross Country Rider
from Richardson, TX, USA
Date Reviewed: April 8, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$130.00 | | Purchased At: | online | | Strengths: | Light. Front wheel seems to hold up well. | | Weaknesses: | Rear wheel spokes loosen after every ride. I have had the rear wheel in the bike shop 5 times for the exact same thing. There is never any difference. | | Similar Products Used: | WTB | | Bike Setup: | Raleigh M40, XT everything. J2 fork. | | Bottom Line: | I commute A LOT on this bike on some serious city streets. The rear wheel has taken a pretty severe beating in the 500 miles I have put on it. And the spokes wont stay tight. I am going with something else. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
3pax
a Weekend Warrior
from QC
Date Reviewed: August 22, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | G-net Bicycles | | Strengths: | lightweight, durable, signature mavic decals, seldom immitated | | Weaknesses: | very commonly used, paint fades | | Similar Products Used: | WTB Speedisc, | | Bike Setup: | S-Works M5, XT groupset, Avid Juicy5, FSA Carbons, Mavic 321's, DT Swiss Spokes, Cateye electronics, Specialized Pro Tires | | Bottom Line: | The 223's are very reliable and gives you best bang for your buck. I've been using it for almost 3 years already and never failed me since. Although it is no longer highlighted in the Mavic website, it is a very reliable entry-mid level rim. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John
a Weekend Warrior
from Quezon City, Philippines
Date Reviewed: August 24, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | Maarat | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$12.00 | | Purchased At: | Newton Bikes | | Strengths: | weight, brand name | | Weaknesses: | rim paint fade | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | Giant XTC hybrid, Rockshox Reba SL, Shimano XT groupset. DT swiss spokes. | | Bottom Line: | used it for 2 years without any problems. rim stayed true even when i crashed. value for money. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ldopa
a Cross Country Rider
from Norman, OK
Date Reviewed: May 2, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$150.00 | | Purchased At: | Jenson USA | | Strengths: | Suprisingly decent rim for the money. Has held up to very moderate though consistent riding. | | Weaknesses: | none found (at least for non aggressive riding) | | Similar Products Used: | Bontrager (DT Swiss) | | Bike Setup: | Fuel 90 spec'd out with all the typical goodies(Fox RLT, Easton carbon, XTR rear, XT drive, Juicy 7's | | Bottom Line: | I recommend this highly for though hesitant of dropping a wad on some higher priced hoops. Bought these laced with Wheelsmith spokes and XT hubs for @ $150 as a last minute emergency purchase, and intended for them to be temps for a trip I went on. Well needless to say I soon forgot about the wheelset I originaly intended for my bike, I guess that gives these a gold star. I suppose these aren't super hoops but if you don't notice them then they're doing their job. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ldopa
a Cross Country Rider
from Norman, OK
Date Reviewed: May 2, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$150.00 | | Purchased At: | Jenson USA | | Strengths: | Suprisingly decent rim for the money. Has held up to very moderate though consistent riding. | | Weaknesses: | none found (at least for non aggressive riding) | | Similar Products Used: | Bontrager (DT Swiss) | | Bike Setup: | Fuel 90 spec'd out with all the typical goodies(Fox RLT, Easton carbon, XTR rear, XT drive, Juicy 7's | | Bottom Line: | I recommend this highly for though hesitant of dropping a wad on some higher priced hoops. Bought these laced with Wheelsmith spokes and XT hubs for @ $150 as a last minute emergency purchase, and intended for them to be temps for a trip I went on. Well needless to say I soon forgot about the wheelset I originaly intended for my bike, I guess that gives these a gold star. I suppose these aren't super hoops but if you don't notice them then they're doing their job. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Hito
a Weekend Warrior
from Ann Arbor
Date Reviewed: September 5, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | Island Lake | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Purchased At: | Came with bike | | Strengths: | Strong rim for XC. (Not meant for 200+lb, jump off cliff riders.) | | Weaknesses: | None really. | | Similar Products Used: | Bontrager Corvair | | Bike Setup: | Specialized Epic tricked out. | | Bottom Line: | This is a followup review. After about 30 miles of agressive XC, I had to true it. The wheel exhibited wobble in the front and hop in the rear. I had it trued by a professional at a bike shop. Now I got over 100miles on the bike. The wheel still spins straight and round like an super expensive custom made rim.
I think the X317 which comes on other bikes is tad lighter, but the X223 sure is stronger. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ko Saynourath
a Weekend Warrior
from Wheat Ridge, CO USA
Date Reviewed: July 28, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | all Denver front range trails | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | ebat | | Strengths: | Tough as nails, four seasons and still perfecty true. | | Weaknesses: | weight, maybe? I don't know how much these weigh but they're probably not XC light. | | Bike Setup: | Giant VT1 | | Bottom Line: | These came on an Epic I bought used on ebay with a season of riding on them already. I have since sold the Epic and kept the rims on my Giant VT. These have been used for four seasons total and they have been only trued once while the Shimano hubs they are laced to are shot to hell. Keep having to tighten the hubs after every few rides.. I'm only 150 lbs which isn't much, but I ride agressively with some drops on some technical trails on Denver's front range in the Rocky Mountains. If you've ever ridden trails here, you know how abusive the terrain is on bikes. These are the only rims I've ever owned and I see no need to buy rims that cost hundreds more when these have never given me any problems. You should buy these rims because they're affordable and will last you. Don't buy these if you're the type of rider who needs to spend hundreds of dollars on "nicer" rims just for the sake of having more expensive rims. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Hito
a Weekend Warrior
from Ann Arbor, MI
Date Reviewed: July 25, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | Island Lake | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | Came with bike | | Strengths: | Strong and durable enough for light riders. It is also light enough for XC use. Now please do not be an ignorant fool and compare this to the super expensive crossmax. Those rims are not the same as this one. | | Weaknesses: | May not be strong enough for 200+ pound riders, but I don't know. | | Bike Setup: | Tricked out Epic | | Bottom Line: | I weigh around 150lb, and I ride agressively. I had to true it once as it exhibited minor wobble after couple of months of riding, but even those expensive CROSSMAX wheels would need truing after a while.
Do buy this rim if:
1. You weigh under 200 pounds and do fast agressive XC trails and not jump off stuff constantly. (I do perform minor jumps and rockhopping on the trail but I always try to land with less impact.)
Don't buy this rim if:
1. You are a fat dude with 200+ pounds and do fast agressive XC and jump off obstacles constantly.
By reading some of the below reviews, I have to either think of these possibilities.
1. Bad reviewers just happened to get the bad quality ones.
2. They are just stupid and did insane jumps and D/H.
3. They weigh 200+ pounds.
So there you have it. It has been working awesome for me. I talked to a bike shop dude about upgrading these, but he looked at me saying, "This is a pretty good rim. Why do you want to ditch it?" and I felt like a fool. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
bernie
a Weekend Warrior
from Laguna, Philippines
Date Reviewed: April 29, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | Caliraya Trails | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$25.00 | | Purchased At: | Ross | | Strengths: | Sturdy, Steady, Strong, easy to align and it's a Mavic. | | Weaknesses: | For DB only | | Similar Products Used: | Rigida Taurus, Ukai and Araya VP | | Bike Setup: | XXtension FS witrh LX Group 05, easton stem & bars. | | Bottom Line: | Perhaps one of the best mavic rims ever produced, affordable yet quality still there. This rim can handle xc, trails, street and even I think mild DH. A wise choice, a wise buy, get it. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chadd
a Weekend Warrior
from Marikina, Philippines
Date Reviewed: April 12, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | Puray Montalban | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$18.00 | | Purchased At: | Extreme Bikes, Timog | | Strengths: | light and strong | | Weaknesses: | could be lighter/thicker | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic Deemax, Sun Rims | | Bike Setup: | Hardtail, Manitou Skareb, Deore gset, eastons | | Bottom Line: | 1) I endoed on this sucker, and no damage at all. I hit a u-rut and my then Judys did not like to recover.
2) A friend of mine hit my rear mavic while on a downhill run at 40kph. My bike was sleeping by the trail coz we were all resting; when the downhill rider lost control. He hit my wheel, which caused him to endo. My bike jumped half a meter to my other friend. The downhilling bike (also using these damn 223s) flew to me, hit me in my back, and the rider endoed over two riders and 2 bikes in like 5-6 meters forward.
No damages on the rims. That, my friend, is impressive stuff...for the rims. The rider is a whole diffrent story.
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Submitted by
Jason
a Weekend Warrior
from NC
Date Reviewed: November 18, 2004 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Strong, stay true | | Similar Products Used: | 217's, Mavic UST Tubeless, Corvairs. | | Bike Setup: | 2004 Enduro Expert | | Bottom Line: | I have had to tighten the spokes once after I located the evasive clicking sound coming from somewhere within my bike. This was when I first got the bike and I haven't had a problem since. I have cased a few jumps, endoed, and guided my front tire into the side of a creek bed like a missle a couple of weeks ago after steering off a bridge/creek crossing. I expected to see some damage after a few of those crashes but haven't so these rims get my vote. I ride rooty/rocky trails and these things hold up well. I would like my entire wheelset to be a little lighter and roll better but who doesn't? | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Steve
a Cross Country Rider
from Monrovia, CA
Date Reviewed: October 12, 2004 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | supergo | | Strengths: | Does everything well. | | Weaknesses: | Could be lighter. | | Bike Setup: | Schwinn Rocket 88 disc, fox rear, michelin, DT Swiss hubs & spokes. | | Bottom Line: | These wheels came with the bike and I've had no problems. I'm 6' 200lbs and I haven't had anything fail. I do check spoke tension and inspect after every ride, but I surprised by the bad reviews. I'm buying another pair to put on a hard tail that I building on a small budget. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Graham
a Cross Country Rider
from Christchurch, New Zealand
Date Reviewed: September 19, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | victoria park | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$190.00 | | Purchased At: | web auction | | Strengths: | weight - not much else | | Weaknesses: | lack strength - tacoed front wheel after 2 months riding. | | Similar Products Used: | sun rhynolite. wtb speed disk. mavic 519. | | Bike Setup: | k2 evo. Psylos, lx/xt mix, hayes disks. | | Bottom Line: | These rims are useless!! I bought a new set to reduce weighton the bike for mainly xc / singletrack use. I am a 160lb rider who rides agressive xc but not hard core drops or dh. What a mistake!!
Rims never felt good. The final straw was when the front tacoed on a steepish technical section. Good riddance I say! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Derek Jordan
a Racer
from Bellingham
Date Reviewed: August 12, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | Bellingham | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | Bob's Cycle Sport | | Strengths: | Decently light weight, strong (unless, perhaps, you are obese) and raceworthy, they look good on my bike. Came stock on a Cannondale F1000. | | Weaknesses: | None thus far, after riding very hard and often on them for 1.5 years. | | Similar Products Used: | These are the first disc-brake specific wheels I've owned. | | Bike Setup: | Cannondale F1000 hardtail. Ti Lefty DLR fork-tine, LX crank, XT rear hub (also cool), SRAM drive, Hayes hydro disc brakes, EA 70 handlebar, eggbeaters, etc. etc. | | Bottom Line: | This is my first disc brake/and rim setup. I used to go through rim brake wheels like berries through a bear. Yet these have been put though a full season and a half of XC trail riding, training for racing, and a race, and are performing as good as new, as far as I can tell. I've had to do a couple of very minor truing touch-ups about four times in a year, even though these are laced with very light, butted spokes. Other than that, zero issues.
Frankly, I'm a bit sick of seeing valuable products such as this receive poor ratings due to the abuses of greatly overweight riders. If you are 80lbs overweight, please don't expect much from XC racing gear! Use the freeride stuff. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike
a Weekend Warrior
from JP, MA
Date Reviewed: April 11, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | foxboro | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | Came with bike | | Strengths: | reasonable price | | Weaknesses: | not for 185+ riders | | Similar Products Used: | Richey Rock comp | | Bike Setup: | ironhorse hollowpoint sport - time pedals - xt shifters - pc99 chain | | Bottom Line: | Only used 5 times before I bent the side wall of the rim. I rode my richey rock comp rims on my specialize rockhopper and never had a problem for the last 4 years. Maybe it was a fluke or something. Just giv'n you all a heads up | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Garry Bowen
a Cross Country Rider
from Sydney Australia
Date Reviewed: November 11, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | Nasho | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | Purchased with bike | | Strengths: | Strong light and stays true. In 2 years of agressive crosscoutry I have had few problems | | Weaknesses: | Not for the hardcore.... Folded the flange over in one place after hitting a root VERY hard. Still holds tire on though.... | | Similar Products Used: | Various. | | Bike Setup: | Avanti hammer hardtail. Deore/LX/Judy fork | | Bottom Line: | This is a good rim. It came with my bike but I would purchase it again if I was buying wheels. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Levi Walker
a Cross Country Rider
from Salt Lake City, Utah, US
Date Reviewed: August 24, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | Very lightweight. Great breaking surface and the look great! | | Weaknesses: | None. I would actually by them again if I could. | | Similar Products Used: | Nothing similar in my book. | | Bike Setup: | LTS-3 w/ Fox air rear, SID front, XTR comp, Profile stem, Chris KIng ahead set, Avid brakes w/Avid levers, and Mavic 223 w/ XTR hubs. | | Bottom Line: | I actually purchased a pair of Crossmax's and even the rotational weight was greater than the 223's. So I took the back. Call me crazy but I don't follow the trends. I can't take someones word I have to check. And to me the 223's are just perfect. Anyone looking for a great value and is competitive. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
LIN
a Weekend Warrior
from San Diego, CA
Date Reviewed: August 5, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Looks kinda cool. | | Weaknesses: | small dent after it fell off my roof rack at 70mph in the freeway. | | Bike Setup: | cannondale f900sl stock | | Bottom Line: | i guess its ok because it came with the bike. wouldnt have been my first choice. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
yerffeJ ddoT
a Weekend Warrior
from SoCal
Date Reviewed: July 31, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | All are good, some better than others. . . . | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$150.00 | | Strengths: | Everything. They have needed little tuning, the finish has lasted great, the spokes have not tried to pull the eyelets up through the rim, tires are easy to install and remove, pinch flatted only once and they look good too. | | Weaknesses: | I'm thinkin', I'm thinkin'. . . . . . | | Similar Products Used: | Only disc specific rim I have used. | | Bike Setup: | 99 Cannondale Super V 900 Mostly stock with SL cartridge in Headshock, WTB saddle, Tioga DH or WTB V-Raptor tires and Azonic riser bar. | | Bottom Line: | I am 6'5" and weigh 265 pounds and I have had these rims for 4 years. I don't ride them off the roof of the house or perform any "North Shore" type stunts, but I do ride some fairly rough terrain here. I have also ridden them into curbs at speed and on the local downhill course many times (although I take a "little" more than four minutes to complete it, unlike the pros that race it a couple times a year). On a night ride, I hit a rock large enough to clean me off the bike into a perfect Flying W demonstration that broke my Bell helmet. I honestly don't understand how some people have managed to tear up these rims as claimed (J.R.A.).
I have just updated to Hayes discs (from the original Magura Louise's) and had to buy a new wheelset today because the Magura Comp hubset won't accept the Hayes discs unless I am willing to grind on them (I'm not). What did I get? Another set of 223's.
Apparently YMMV, but I'm handing out five stinky steamers for value and four for overall because you can probably get lighter wheels that are as strong or stronger even though it would co$t you. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ryan R
a Cross Country Rider
from Long Island NY
Date Reviewed: July 26, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | Ones with dirt on em | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Purchased At: | Came with the bike | | Strengths: | Good CHEAP disc rim, Verylight weight and almost no weight penalty to them. | | Weaknesses: | The Strenghts are also the weaknesses to them as well, They are light weight and are easily bent once bent I hope you own a truing stand because they will cost you a small fortune in truing. | | Similar Products Used: | WTB Laser Beam, Sun, Mavic | | Bike Setup: | 02 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR With pleanty of goodies | | Bottom Line: | I belive these rims have a low weight restriction! If you weigh in at about 150 to 170 you fine anything else you toast I weigh in at 200 and have beat these rims to hell. I've trued the back on three time and the front on twice. Before I bent them they were fine and went with out truing for about three months but once you true once the party's over. I'm looking into a set of Mavic F 219's anyone who's looking for a good light disc rim send me an e-mail. They feel like a good light XC race rim but for everyday use forget it you'll kill them! anyone who's looking to go disc cheap it's a good rim to start with experienced rider will shread these, Freeriding is definatly a NO NO and they can take some light jumping NO DROPS! PEACE! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Brian
a Cross Country Rider
from Boulder Creek, Ca
Date Reviewed: March 10, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | Wilder Ranch | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$165.00 | | Purchased At: | Jenson USA | | Strengths: | Good price for disc specific rim | | Weaknesses: | none yet | | Similar Products Used: | mavic and sun rims | | Bike Setup: | Santa Cruz Superlight, all xt with Avid Mech disc brakes | | Bottom Line: | These rims were part of a xt/223 disc specific wheelset from Jenson USA. So far no problems, but I only weigh 150lbs and ride strictly cross country with no drop offs greater than 5 feet max. If I had the extra money I would have bought 317's but if you are on a budget this is a decent way to go. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Gen
a Weekend Warrior
from Exeter, NH
Date Reviewed: February 27, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | Fort Rock | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | Came with Bike | | Strengths: | Cheap and haven't broken yet | | Weaknesses: | Need to be trued once in a while, but all wheels do. | | Similar Products Used: | Came stock on my Cannondale F900 and F2000 | | Bike Setup: | Cannondale F2000, Fatty SL, Coda Discs, 223s | | Bottom Line: | These rims have come stock on two of my bikes and I haven't had a problem with either set. It all depends on how they're built. If you get them built by someone who knows what they're doing you should be fine with just about any rim for a xc/trailrider. These are obviously not freeride or downhill rims. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Michael
a Weekend Warrior
from Aiken, SC
Date Reviewed: December 15, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Horn Creek | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | These came with my '02 Giant NRS2 purchased November '01. I have around 1500 offroad, XC-type riding miles on these rims. I do zero hucking, shucking, jiving, jumping, whatever you want to call it. I ride XC style, have been for over ten years, and these rims have held up 100%. I have had several broken spokes but the LBS attributes them to the cheap hub that came on my early-model NRS2 (not XT, and the spokes all break at the hub flange). Outstanding durability. I have wanted to upgrade my hubs from day one, but these wheels have never given me a reason to want to screw with'em. | | Weaknesses: | Zero problems encountered. | | Bike Setup: | Giant NRS2 with lots of minor upgrades... | | Bottom Line: | If you are a XC-style rider, you should have no problems with them. Get them trued every so often and replace broken spokes as necessary. If you want to jump off roofs or whatever, then reconsider what you are buying (i.e. buy something made for that style). | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jason
a Weekend Warrior
from Olympic Peninsula, Washington
Date Reviewed: November 27, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Darkstar | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | came stock on my rockhopper | | Strengths: | I ride a P3 and the rear wheel went to crap, so I swapped the 32hole 223 rim/ wheel from my rockhopper and set it all up just so i could be riding. I am honestly suprised at how well this rim has performed, insane urban riding, huge drops, and hauling a$$. I gave it about 2 weeks and it is still going strong 2 months later. | | Weaknesses: | 32 hole and it is super skinny. | | Similar Products Used: | rhynolites, trailpimps, single tracks, bfr's | | Bike Setup: | came on Rockhopper-> put on P3 | | Bottom Line: | I dont think I would go out and spend the money on this individual rim, but overall I am pleased with its performance. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jim
a
from Southern California
Date Reviewed: November 4, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | secret one with dinosaurs | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$180.00 | | Purchased At: | supergo | | Strengths: | cheep, looks cool, says "mavic" so you feel confident that it's good. | | Weaknesses: | French. | | Similar Products Used: | Bontrager rims. | | Bike Setup: | short travel XC frame with AVID disc brakes. | | Bottom Line: | I'm chubby, 195lbs, and I ride over rocks and things, and these rims have taken it so far. This may be because of the high-wall XT hubs and 14 guage spokes, it's a stronger foundation for weaker rims. I have no idea how well these things will hold up to drops because I don't do that. I'm totally an XC climber type rider, and these things are still true and running great after 6 months. The seam does look lame...it's looks like it could split, but it hasn't. If these ever taco or get severely dented, I'll put on some 517's or something, but so far they work perfectly. These are not part of Mavic's "extreme MTB" series of rims, so complaining about them folding from a 6 foot drop is a little much. They're cheap XC rims that work. I'm sure I'll mess them up eventually, but I'll have gotten my money's worth. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
SGT. ROCK
a Racer
from Edmonton, AB
Date Reviewed: August 16, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Durable
Easy to get tires on and off without levers (see below) | | Weaknesses: | Tire retention (see above) | | Similar Products Used: | Sun rims, ALEX rims | | Bike Setup: | 2000 GIANT ATX 890 | | Bottom Line: | These are good disc-specific rims, not spectacular, but decent. The one problem was the weak a$$ 15 gauge spokes GIANT laced them with - I broke several on the rear wheel until they were replaced with butted 14 gauge spokes. Not a rim defect, an poor assembly decision. Haven't had a problem with keeping them true.
Hard impacts can blow the tire off the rim because they are so shallow. Not a factor in racing, where this is a benefit in rapid flat repair, but they are not a jumping/big drop rim. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Luke
a
from IN
Date Reviewed: August 16, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Nebo | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | Local Store | | Strengths: | Cross-Country ONLY! | | Weaknesses: | Too flemsy | | Similar Products Used: | numerous | | Bike Setup: | 2001 FSR Enduro Expert | | Bottom Line: | Pinch flatted and bent the back tire. Two weeks later...took a drop in WV and the front rim tacoed...and guess what..split at the seam. It's a piece. They won't replace it. I have to spend an extra bill on my 22 bill bike. Not cool. This product sucks for anyone who wants to really do something fun. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Phil Yates
a Cross Country Rider
from Auckland, New Zealand
Date Reviewed: April 25, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Lasted three months!! | | Weaknesses: | Weak as butter. | | Bottom Line: | The front rim folded like butter going around a corner!! No jump or drop off, just an easy, sandy corner. I've crashed many times in the previous 12 or so years on numerious mountain bikes but this rim has taken the cake for pathetic performance. Don't purchase if you expect to ride your bike off road. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bob Wehadababyitsaboy
a Cross Country Rider
from Austin
Date Reviewed: April 24, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | PricePoint | | Strengths: | They keep me rollin... reasonably light... reasonably strong... black... tires get on and off easy. | | Weaknesses: | Not laser true... dented easy. | | Similar Products Used: | Araya, Sun, 221, 222, Syncros | | Bike Setup: | two of these and a frame | | Bottom Line: | So far, I can't say these rims have any major flaws about em. I ride rocky, loose, technical, agressive xc and they've held up fine so far. I cased an awkward dip in the trail and pinched the rear, and later found a small dent in the side of the rim with resultant wacked true job, but a spot true fixed that (well, not the dent). I haven't had any severe trueing problems since then.
The riims are'nt fantastically light or whiz-bang, but for the price, that's OK. They don't true to laser perfection like some other rims I've seen, but since they're disk rims, I'm not too concerned.
I think trueing and preloading the wheels before riding the rims helped since a lot of reviews seem to tell contrary results. Machine built wheels, IMO, should never be trusted to hold up right off the bat. A little pre-trueing and tensioning goes a long way. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
zach lee
a
from northeast PA USA
Date Reviewed: March 5, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | many | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | came with bike | | Strengths: | stay some what true, didn't taco yet, look cool in black | | Weaknesses: | none | | Similar Products Used: | wtb laser I-beam(also great)sun0degree light | | Bike Setup: | XT hub dt compeition spokes 3x on cannondale f900 | | Bottom Line: | This rim is not top of the line but still a great rim. It is not a downhill rim, made for XC and works great. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Stu Foster
a
from Burlington, CT
Date Reviewed: January 1, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | All of them | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | Biker's Edge (came with bike) | | Strengths: | -they stay some-what round
-kind of light
| | Weaknesses: | -sidewalls dent
-come out of true very easly
-rim joint is crap | | Similar Products Used: | nothing | | Bike Setup: | Specialized Endure HT, Hayes hydro,Rock Shox PhyloXC | | Bottom Line: | These rims are for aggresive XC rideing. They will not hold up to people who do large drops and wieght much more than 150 LBS. Buy them if you want a cheep disc rim, and you are more into the XC thing. Freeriders and Downhillers should stay away from these, they are not beffy enough. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tom
a Weekend Warrior
from op,kansas
Date Reviewed: December 29, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | anything fast and big air | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Purchased At: | Came stock on my giant | | Strengths: | light(kinda) cheap | | Weaknesses: | Very flexible when used for trials. Really weak, get flat spots easily, The flatspots on mine are so big that you can feel em through the Tioga DH's and the rear suspension. To heavy for how weak they are. | | Similar Products Used: | Zac-19(even worse) Sun Ryno light, i just put these on my bike, working great so far | | Bike Setup: | 2000 giant ds1 bashgaurd, sun ryno light 32hole xt disc hub, the rest stock | | Bottom Line: | These rims would be ok for a light weight light duty xc rider. Don't get these if freeriding or trials is in your future. If you do get em check the spokes constantly and stay away from those drops! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Scott "Flashmofo" Smith
a Cross Country Rider
from Seattle
Date Reviewed: October 31, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Palisades/Suntop | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$29.00 | | Purchased At: | Jensonusa | | Strengths: | CHEAPO!!!! And disc specific. Built up real nice. Same ERD as Mavic X317 | | Weaknesses: | Maybe a bit chunky. Not too bad though. | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic x517,117, Bontrager Mustang and Valiant | | Bike Setup: | Santa Cruz Superlight w/Marzocchi Z2, shimano discs, XT, king hubs and headset, easton Carbon bars and post. | | Bottom Line: | OK- I'm writing this review because I came to this page prior to buying these rims and almost didn't buy due to the number of bad reviews. Look at the common thread with the people complaining- almost all them bought the rims as OE equipment on giant bikes. Nothing against Giant, but machine-built wheels are never going to last, regardless of rim quality.
So I ponied up $29 each for these rims and laced them up to my king discotech hubs with 1.8spokes and alloy nipples,3x, 32 hole. The rims built up really nice. Mavic rims are always true and round out of the box, unlike some other brands. Another bonus I discoverd is that the x317 and x223 share the same E.r.d, which means that if you taco a x223, you can do a "lace-over" onto a new x317 and use the same spokes. This makes me happy.
Okay, I built them up, rode them hard 1x, and re-dished them. Still good. A few rides later they are still going strong. I've only had them a few weeks but they've seen a lot of riding already, some big air, a few endos, and it's all good.
Here's the main thing I'm trying to get across people: Rims are only as good as the quality of the build. I was a bike mechanic in shops for 5 years. It's not rocket science, it doesn't require a great mechanic. When you build wheels up and ride them the first time, they lose about a third of their spoke tension. This tension is what holds the wheel together. So it doesn't matter what kind of rims you have, after you ride them once or twice, true your wheels and make sure your spokes have plenty of tension. Check them every few rides, just squeeze all your spokes to make sure none are loose. I they are loose, true and dish your wheel, then, starting at the valve stem, go around the wheel and tighten each nipple 1/2turn. Make sure to use the right size spoke wrench! If you even start to round out a nipple, stop and back the rest of your spokes off instead. If you have to much spoke tension, you will break spokes and nipples out on the trail. Go to your local shop and squeeze or pluck some spokes on some nice hand-built wheels, you will see what the right amount of tension feels like. If you don't want to bother with this type of stuff, have a shop do it. But most importantly, just do it.
I'm giving these rims high ratings cuz $29 for mavic is dirt-cheap, and these rims are fine when built well. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Michael Karlovich
a
from Belmont, Ca
Date Reviewed: October 29, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Soquel Demo Forest | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | Cambria Bike | | Strengths: | Good price, strong, lightweight, black ones look great. | | Weaknesses: | Haven't found them yet. | | Similar Products Used: | Sun | | Bike Setup: | K2 -4000 Proflex, Avid Mechanical Discs, XT drivetrain | | Bottom Line: | Well, I hate to go against the grain of all the negative reviews, but I haven't had a single problem with these yet. I ride aggresively and have ridden them off of small drops -to 3 feet. They haven't gone out of true nor have I noticed any other defect whatsoever. Judging by the other reviews, perhaps they are not sturdy enough for downhillers. If you look at these rims, it's obvious that they weren't designed for that. I think if you are a lightweight freerider (145 lbs) they meet or exceed expectations. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
tim clark
a
from frederick md, usa
Date Reviewed: September 21, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | sweeet!!! | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | jenson usa | | Strengths: | they is pretty, they took big hits from me | | Weaknesses: | the seam was poo, fricken split on me today, got two flats from it | | Similar Products Used: | i like chicken | | Bike Setup: | 2001 access alu xtderalures, lx shifters/chain deore disks/ disk hubs/ cassette and a stuffed monkey strapped to my head | | Bottom Line: | i like these rims, if mavic had better quality control, i wouldnt be in this situation, i just got my bike built up this summer, haven taken it on the trails more than 5 times. the seam split on my a$$, grrrr.i think ill replace the mavics with something better, maybe sun mammoth rims, maybe. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jason
a Weekend Warrior
from Berkeley Heights
Date Reviewed: September 21, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Cheap but not worth it | | Weaknesses: | that is exactly it weakness | | Bike Setup: | F900 setup for extreme cross country / down hill | | Bottom Line: | The rims held up ok for a little while then folded on a three foot drop off with a down hill off camber landing giving me 11 stitches, Do not Use these worthless rims unless you are very light and easy on your bike | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mika
a Weekend Warrior
from Finland
Date Reviewed: September 11, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Purchased At: | Came on stock with my Specialized | | Bottom Line: | I'm also quite heavy guy(95kg) and these rims have lasted
just fine freeridin' with over 4 feet drops and stairs and much more.. until yesterday. Few spokes and a nice shape in the rim. Well' I was going to buy new ones soon! :D
For the value I think the rims are quite good because they have lasted this far...
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Submitted by
pat
a Cross Country Rider
from seekonk,ma,usa
Date Reviewed: September 7, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Bike Setup: | 2000 diamondback x2 | | Bottom Line: | pretty scary reviews seein that I weigh 240lbs.,do 3'drops
maybe an accident waiting to happin,but they are holdin up nicely.just came back from killington ski resort to do a little downhill stuff (nothing extreme)they held up fine.
time will tell | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ken
a Cross Country Rider
from baton rouge, La, USA
Date Reviewed: August 24, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | hooper trails | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$150.00 | | Strengths: | well, I can say that the rims look good | | Weaknesses: | the rims have a large amount of flex and if you have these rims and like to jump more than six inches off the ground DONT!!!!! They will bend. I bought these rims and only had about 50 miles on them when my front rim decided it did not enjoy being round anymore. | | Bike Setup: | these rims came stock on my Giant SE-1 | | Bottom Line: | The bottom line is that this is a BAD product and that no one needs to waste a dime on them. They had a good price on the set but now I know why. They completely suck!!!!! I am in the process of dealing with Mavic to see if they will replace the rim and but that is not looking like it will happen. The Mavic customer service people are not the best in the world. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rob
a Cross Country Rider
from Tasmania, Australia
Date Reviewed: August 22, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | McBains Cycles hobart | | Strengths: | Great alrounder rim.
Moderate weight.
Alright looks. | | Weaknesses: | Maybe a bit heavy (only for weight freaks) | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic 317 | | Bike Setup: | Giant ATX 890 | | Bottom Line: | These rims are sweet. In almost a year of abuse, I haven't had to true them once. I am not concerned about weight (yet) and will use them until they die.
Maybe try Mavic 317s for a racey XC disc rim. These are more for trail riding. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Brandon
a
from Reno Nv
Date Reviewed: August 15, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Green Mountain | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Look Good... | | Weaknesses: | The product. Im a little tick off about the quality of this rim. It came stock on my bike; and wish they had came with out them so I could have paid less and bought some rims that held up for mountain biking and not my grandmas paved driveway...wait thats where they bent! | | Bike Setup: | Enduro HT Xt/Xtr, Hayes Discs, Psylo XC | | Bottom Line: | Crap! These bent bunny hopping from a 1' curb. I may weigh 200lbs but come on Mavic! Pull your head out your A$$!
1 chili only and thats being nice | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Kingtyee
a Cross Country Rider
from Bellingham
Date Reviewed: August 3, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Weaknesses: | Flexy, these rims came on a factory wheelset (which I have already rebuilt). The rims made the wheel feel squirrely
Weak, they stood up to typical abuse for awhile, but crapped out | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic for years, Sun 0degree and SUV | | Bike Setup: | Haro XCR, Psylo XC, Odegree w/Deore hubs, XT drive, XT disc | | Bottom Line: | These are sucky disc rims, don't buy them. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tom
a Cross Country Rider
from Kansas
Date Reviewed: July 24, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Anything with medium Air | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Purchased At: | Came Stock | | Strengths: | Better than my old ones | | Weaknesses: | Easily Bent, a little sluggish | | Bike Setup: | Virtuall Stock 2000 Giant DS1 | | Bottom Line: | These rims are pretty good if catching Air is against your religon(I'm Adicted). Once I almost tacoed the Back one without even noing it because I'm not used to Discs. I only weigh 120 and just a couple 5 foot hits will take em out of shape. As long as you care for them as if it was as living creature you should be fine
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Submitted by
Tony
a Weekend Warrior
from NJ
Date Reviewed: July 8, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$150.00 | | Purchased At: | magura | | Strengths: | inexpensive for a disc rim. | | Weaknesses: | comes out of true easily.
sidewalls dent/fold under easily.
| | Similar Products Used: | suns, rhynos, mavics. | | Bike Setup: | freeride | | Bottom Line: | I would recommend these rims for light cross-country ONLY!
I took a chance with them because I got them so cheap. I've
had them for less than 3 months and they're completely shot.
I went in on a pair with a friend and his are shot too.
These rims aren't meant for ANY type of technical riding.
Forget drop-offs! Even, small ones will destroy these rims.
Bottom line: these rims are a liability on your bike.
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Submitted by
John Parker
a Weekend Warrior
from Louisville Ky
Date Reviewed: June 30, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$140.00 | | Purchased At: | jenson | | Strengths: | Round for a little whiile | | Weaknesses: | cheap as hell, will not stay true | | Similar Products Used: | various | | Bike Setup: | jamis eureka | | Bottom Line: | Came in a build kit i bought...after 1 1/2 days of soft riding w/ maybe 2-3 small drops the wheel is already untrue! Cheap design and way to narrow for MTB...soon to be replaced w/ a rhyno lite...let me know if u want a shi++y wheelset...its free if u want it | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike
a Cross Country Rider
from CA USA
Date Reviewed: April 18, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$200.00 | | Purchased At: | pricepoint | | Strengths: | Just ok for flat x-country, not great | | Weaknesses: | These rims are so damn flexy and too narrow for an off road rim. In just one week the rear rim split at the seam. I sent it in and got a free replacment. After 6 months on the replacement it also split at the seam. At this point I'm through with Mavic. | | Similar Products Used: | weinman zac 19 | | Bike Setup: | Santa Cruz | | Bottom Line: | The mavic x223's came with a build kit I bought, so I gave them a spin and they failed. Do not even bother tring these rims. They may seem like a good value for their price and come from a reputible company but the bottom line is they suck. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Scott Grim
a Weekend Warrior
from Stansbuy Park, Utah, US
Date Reviewed: September 28, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | holy cow | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$666.00 | | Purchased At: | shop I work @ | | Strengths: | Straight and true. Light. Low rolling weight. Good strength for it's weight. When it is flexed, and it will, it holds it shape well. If you want a good XC hoop your ship has landed. | | Weaknesses: | Too narrow, I find myself wishing for more girth. Too much flex( for me ). If you like to rally look into something with more substance. | | Bike Setup: | 2000 FSR Enduro, Bomber Forks. | | Bottom Line: | I am 160lbs. these wheels feel good, but I want something with a stiffer feel. No bounce at high wheel speed when in a workstand, nice roller. If you do 180's and 360's you're gonna feel it flex, it is noticable on off camber landings as well, not a trials or jump rim, but great for XC. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Daniel M
a Weekend Warrior
from New York City
Date Reviewed: September 21, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Many | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | Stock on y2k FSR Enduro Comp | | Strengths: | Very strong rims, have withstood repeated jumps (4-5') and bashings. I slightly bent the rear rim sidewalls a couple of times, strightened em out with a crescent wrench, good as new.
Have not had to true them once-but I mainly credit this to a great wheel build.
Black's the best color
Very reasonable replacement costs (like $30)
Eyelets increase strength
| | Weaknesses: | Does not please all the people all the time | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic 217,517, SunOdegXC (great rim for V's!) | | Bike Setup: | Stock on y2k FSR Enduro Comp with IRC MythosXCk 2.1'a | | Bottom Line: | The wheels on this-and that includes the rims- are probably the best built I ever had. I have not put a spoke wrench to them-ever! And that's with about 2500miles on them.
My gut feeling is that wheels/rims live a lot longer on full suspension rigs with 2.1+ tires, because the tires and shocks absorb most of the impacts-the wheels don't get "whacked" as hard. Also-I ride pretty hard, but I only weigh 150lbs, so I really don't know how useful my opinion is to the 200lb+ crowd. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mark
a Cross Country Rider
from Crystal Lake
Date Reviewed: September 12, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Earth | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | Out Door Rec | | Strengths: | I havn`t had to tru them at all | | Weaknesses: | none to date | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic 221 | | Bike Setup: | Schwinn Homegrown 99 | | Bottom Line: | I`m 205lbs ,I ride a lot in WI Southern Kettle. These rims take alot of abuse and they`re holding up great.I`m very surprised at some of the other reviews.It is possible that the rims that went bad are the result of poor quality control on Mavic`s part. The rims I got are great! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Specialized FSR
a Racer
from Castro valley
Date Reviewed: August 21, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$190.00 | | Purchased At: | Cyclepath | | Strengths: | Best rims in the world. Came with my 2000 Specialized Enduro FSR Comp. | | Weaknesses: | none | | Similar Products Used: | other mavics and Ritchey sun rhino | | Bike Setup: | 2000 Specilialized Enduro FSR Comp | | Bottom Line: | 5 foot drops 24/7 ? NO PROBLEM with these rims. theyre lite and nice looking. BEST rim in the world! GET THEM OR BE SORRY! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Billy Bumkis
a
from Utah
Date Reviewed: August 20, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$200.00 | | Strengths: | strength of kryptonite, indestructable tolerances, have a secret alloy compound to make them the strongest rims ever made..( Have been tested with elephants standing on them, and didn't break). | | Weaknesses: | These are the best friggin' rims ever made!!!! | | Similar Products Used: | Every other rim ever made, I have tested..( with the same damn elephants standing on them! Every other damn rim yielded to the mighty mass of the elphants. | | Bike Setup: | A badd arse Diamondback X6 | | Bottom Line: | The bottom line with these bad babies is that there is no other rim that can withstand the incredible forses of giagantuan elephants fat asses standing on them. Elephants aint no joke now. thats some serious arse pressure. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Frank
a Weekend Warrior
from Bozeman, MT
Date Reviewed: August 17, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | New world gulch | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | Roundhouse | | Strengths: | they started out being round? | | Weaknesses: | everything you can think of | | Similar Products Used: | WTB downhill disk rims | | Bike Setup: | Cannondale F-900 and then a Santa Cruz Bullit for a day | | Bottom Line: | On the cannondale I bunnied up onto a rock and totally destroyed the rear sidewall. The front has never been true the rear either. I'm 210lbs and thrashed the bike pretty hard. I never had snakebites ever before I got these rims, but now I get them every ride no matter if I run 65lbs of pressure. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
The Albatross
a Downhiller
from Greenville SC
Date Reviewed: August 12, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Burnt Mtn | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Looks good? | | Weaknesses: | Very weak!!! Too skinny. | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic221,Sun Rhino Lites(da bomb!) | | Bike Setup: | '98 FSR,Rock Shox XL,Tioga 2.3 DH,Sun Rhino Lites,Coda Competition disc brakes,Shimano 535,Plasma gripshifters,Titec Berzerker DH,XT der.f&r.. | | Bottom Line: | These rims are only good for xc.If you jump an anthill these things are history!!!!! Beleive me !! Negative one cat turd. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Gary Gregg
a Weekend Warrior
from Penticton BC Canada
Date Reviewed: August 3, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Crawford Mtn. | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | They came on the bike. | | Weaknesses: | I've had to true both the front and back rims twice now. The front rim tacoed on the seem from landing a two foot jump. I'm not impressed at all. | | Similar Products Used: | --- | | Bike Setup: | Canondale F900 disc | | Bottom Line: | These rims are week. You need to true the alot and I don't think I can trust them after the front rim exploded. Off to buy a new rim, helmet and seat. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike
a Cross Country Rider
from San Jose, CA USA
Date Reviewed: July 26, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Skeggs Point | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Can't really think of any. Hmmm.. the color black is cool. | | Weaknesses: | Too many to list; here are a few: Within the first month, Taco'd the front rim (bike shop replaced for free). Within the past four months I've had to true my rims after every ride. My rear rim is shot and needs replacement - I getting tired of truing my rims... | | Similar Products Used: | Other Mavic rims from previous bikes riden. | | Bike Setup: | 2000 Giant XTC-SE1, with Easton MonkeyLite riser. | | Bottom Line: | I thought spending $1600 on a hard-tail would result in a quality bike. The bike rocks, but rims totally suck. Giant needs to do something to redeem itself. By seeing the previous reviews, I can see that I am not a minority here. I'm pretty pissed off that I'm going to have to spend another few hundred dollars to make my bike worthy of trail riding. These rims were made for those "wanna be" mtn. bikers riding on paved trails with full suspension bikes. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Adam S.
a Cross Country Rider
from Holbrook, NY
Date Reviewed: July 24, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | hmmmmm | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | hmmm? thats a though one. | | Weaknesses: | weight, weak, construction | | Bike Setup: | 00' Schwinn Moab Disc, Full XTR, Easton Monkey Lite Bars, Time ATAC carb's, Englund Air Carts | | Bottom Line: | These rims came stock w/XT hubs on my Moab. For stock rims, they arent so bad. When riden alot however, you learn something about them....they SUCK. IN 2 months I have gotten 5 pinch flats from them. I need to get them trued at least ONCE a week. Forget jumping, these rims creak and flex like a mutherf*cker. Weight?? God DAMN!!! Both of my friends stock rims with STX hubs weigh less than one of my rims. Time to upgrade. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Trond Olsen
a Cross Country Rider
from Oslo, Norway
Date Reviewed: July 24, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | The screwdriver | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | hmmmm, they spin? | | Weaknesses: | weak welds, strength seems to have been compromised. | | Similar Products Used: | 317, Campa Sthenos, Bontrager Red Label, 517, 222, Crossmax +++ | | Bike Setup: | 98 San Andreas 4.5", Risse Genesis, XT, Magura Louise, Delta TL, Mavic 223Disc, Coda Expert hubs | | Bottom Line: | Paul from Australia, I hear you!! These rims are weak, and not for anything more then fireroads. I was stupid enough to put them on my San Andreas, did two rides, went off a jump (well, three in a row), got air and the front wheel totally collapsed when landing. Needless to say, I had problems staying on two wheels. It resultet in a busted face (I am NOT picking up any girls soon...), shoulder and sprained thumb. The rim had separated in the weld, tacoed and totally destroyed.
I am also 200lbs so I am not giving mavic all the blame, but after reading the other reviews here I might change my mind, can't believe the weld cracked open.
Three weird ones for value, two for overall. Don't ever compromise strength!! That's what mavic has done here.
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Submitted by
Richard
a
from Montreal Canada
Date Reviewed: May 25, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | good looks, strong, work well, i havent had to tune them yet | | Weaknesses: | not nessisary to put the sid wall on the 223 disk rims | | Bike Setup: | jamis dakar expert 2000 (sweet bike) | | Bottom Line: | you might think that i don't know what i'm talking about because i have had them for less then a month, but i ride everyday (weather-permitting) i jump with them and land hard, well pretty much i beat the sh@te out of them every ride,
5 flamin turdes for theses babys | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
paul casimir
a Weekend Warrior
from Canberra, Australia
Date Reviewed: May 11, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | majura | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Come from a factory that I used to trust. | | Weaknesses: | oh, just design and manufacture | | Similar Products Used: | I've long been a fan of the 517. | | Bike Setup: | Giant xtc ds1 with xt levers | | Bottom Line: | At the moment I am severely tickd off. I've just walked away from a brand new rim which snapped right through the weld on a gully crossing. Nothing like having a front wheel break under you to take the gloss off a new bike, except perhaps the prospect of pushing that bike five miles back to the trail head on one wheel.
Are these rims just too weak for xc use? Should Giant get a serve for making them OEM on a bike which is available in a large frame serve? | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mark Baillie
a Cross Country Rider
from Lewisburg, PA, USA
Date Reviewed: March 3, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | St. Edwards trails in Seattle, WA | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Light weight xc rim. good for low spinning weight, and for a race (if you are sponsored and can get a new one after every race!). | | Weaknesses: | Incredibly weak. In the past month, I have bent 3 of them. Ture, I do ride tials on them and that doesn't help, but even when I ride off road, they bend very easily. I only weigh 145, so I dont' consider myself a heavy rider. However these rims could only be used for xc, on pretty smooth trails. | | Bike Setup: | Giant XTC SE1 | | Bottom Line: | These rims are very use specific, and can ONLY be used for xc. If you try to ride on a variety of trails, you are bound to bend, or taco more than one of these light puppies. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rodney
a Weekend Warrior
from Clagary Canada
Date Reviewed: January 25, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Similar Products Used: | Every rim out their | | Bike Setup: | 99 Cdale Supper V 900 | | Bottom Line: | The rims are the best out their they work get just love them. Thet have lasted a year not trued I always need 2 new rims every year but not this year. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
noneofyourdamnbusiness
a Cross-Country Rider
from thisisalsononeofyourdamnbusiness
Date Reviewed: July 6, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Bottom Line: | These rims kick ass. I have had these for a year and they haven't needed to be trued once!! You might well you don't ride hard then. Not true I have my own jumping park and ride every second day. I am 15 so I also don't have the finess that some of the older riders have. Basically I treat my bike like a tank. So these rims will not dissapoint you and if they do then you can beat the $#!T out of me.5 flaming road riders for these | | Overall Rating: |
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