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Submitted by
Mike Day
a Cross Country Rider
from warwickshire, UK
Date Reviewed: August 13, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | any that bans horses | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | Direct from the mavic rep! | | Strengths: | reliability and strength. | | Weaknesses: | none so far. | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic 231cd's/ Campag/ Atac/ various others | | Bike Setup: | 1992 Bontrager Race, rigid thru and thru, maguras [HS11], nuke proof front hub/ XT parallax rear hub, DT swiss double butted spokes and brass nipples. | | Bottom Line: | These were and still are the first ever SUP 217's to reach the North East of the UK in the early 90's, bought and haggled direct from the mavic reps car after he had showed them round. I built them up (I used to be and from time to time still am a wheel builder) paying close attention to even spoke tension (use a gauge) and gradually tightened them over the next year! since then they have not been trued or re tensioned ONCE! in at least 15000miles over 14 years, I am a lightish weight @160lbs rider but above all have them built by some-one who knows what they are doing, and then pick a good line down hill!.... eyelet cracking is often caused by uneven loose tension causing stress risers and rim wall wear is done by small stones in brake pads in a few seconds! stop and remove them! the reason they last .... they were built with care! applies to all wheels. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Sky
a Cross Country Rider
from Aiea, HI
Date Reviewed: August 11, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$11.00 | | Purchased At: | Nashbar | | Strengths: | Strong, relatively light wheel, and it looks good! | | Weaknesses: | None so far | | Similar Products Used: | Sun Ditchwitch, Alex DM20, Sun Rhyno lite | | Bike Setup: | '04 Specialized Hardrock Pro Disk - SS Conversion | | Bottom Line: | Great wheel drilled for Presta and hard anodized.
Im 185 and jump off everything in sight but not usually over 2 feet or so. I think hand built wheels are a must because they are stronger and hold their tension longer. I had this one laced up by my LBS. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Del Sharp
a Cross Country Rider
from Vail-Breckenridge, CO
Date Reviewed: March 27, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | Two Elk (or, any trail in Vail) | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$50.00 | | Purchased At: | Mountain Peddler, Minturn, CO | | Strengths: | Cool color shifting ano that worked nicely with the ti-dyed spokes. They've lasted over 7 years even while breaking a dozen or so spokes. Last year I converted them with Stan's no problem. | | Weaknesses: | No weaknesses discovered. | | Similar Products Used: | OEM | | Bike Setup: | '95 20" Y-22 (sub 24lbs) Kooka cranks/levers, Specialized ti bb; '00 Cannondale Super V Raven w/Sweet wings 25.5lbs. | | Bottom Line: | Initially, I weighed 165lbs and never was a crazy downhiller type, but by no means a sissy, either and these rims have held up without any problems.
After five years of marriage, I now weigh 185lbs and they are still running true.
Too bad they're French, otherwise I'd buy Mavics again in a heartbeat. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Sam
a Cross Country Rider
from Los Angeles
Date Reviewed: February 13, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | Santa Monica mountains | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | gift | | Strengths: | Super lightweight and tough | | Weaknesses: | none yet | | Similar Products Used: | All kinds of stuff | | Bike Setup: | Bianchi Super GL
Mavic 217 SUP on XTR hubs, Wheelsmith hand build | | Bottom Line: | Before my 217's, I was running a 517 in the rear and a 221 up front. Both went out of true (albeit slightly) after only a handful of rides. The 217's have been subjected to much more punishment that my old wheels ever were, yet they are still as true as they were when I got them. Shaving off some ounces of rotational weight wasn't so bad either.
I don't know what those other people were talking about. These are tough and light wheels. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Skid Marks
a Weekend Warrior
from Santa Barbara, CA
Date Reviewed: September 22, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$230.00 | | Purchased At: | Colorado Cyclist | | Strengths: | lightweight, strong for XC, CD gray finish helps with durability over the 5 years that I've had this pair | | Weaknesses: | none for me, they have yet to even break a spoke | | Bike Setup: | Kona MokoMoko, Kings, Avid arch-rivals, XTR, XT parts, Thomson post & stem | | Bottom Line: | I had my X217 wheelset hand-built from Colorado Cyclist to replace the original wheels on my first surious MTB - Haro. Now they have outlasted the Haro and are on my Kona FS mount. These things were built very sturdy and on the heavier side for durability and it has worked out great for 5 years (6000+ miles off-road) now - CD rims, 14 guage 3-cross, XT hubs, brass nipples. I have only trued the rear wheel twice, guess it helped that I am only 145 lbs. These things have handled 1ft drops, lots of stairs, dried creek bed descends, and all the big hownhill/freeride trails around here without breaking. My friends and I are completely amazed that I am still using them, even after all the hard miles. The wheels' durability was probably also due to the dry riding conditions out here, and my riding style too. I recommend staying away from machine built wheels - HAND BUILT WHEELSETS ARE VERY DURABLE IN MY EXPERIENCE. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Keith Denley
a Weekend Warrior
from Cottam, Preston, England
Date Reviewed: August 24, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | Local canalsside & lanes. | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$65.00 | | Purchased At: | H. Hall Cycles, Manchester. | | Strengths: | Very few other than lightness and fashionably looking good . | | Weaknesses: | I have had very bad experience of Mavic rims in general and the 217SUP in particular. They crack at the spoke holes due to metal fatigue. The spoke pulls out through the rim, even with professionally hand built and trimmed wheels, DESPITE the double eyelets which connect inner and outer walls of the rim box section. The eyelets simply crack in half, putting all the load on one wall of the rim, which is not up to the task. Consequently, Mavic rims are not worth their price. Also, they dent easily on any trail with even moderate size pebbles, despite massive tyres correctly inflated. They are far too narrow & weak for any MTB. | | Similar Products Used: | Alessa, Weinmann. | | Bike Setup: | Merlin Titanium MTB frame Deore XTR gears Middleburn cranks Ritchie pedals PACE DH suspension fork. X-lite Titanium bars and seat pillar Deore XT V.brakes Hope hubs. All professionally assembled by one of this countries greatest bike shops. | | Bottom Line: | I have read other peoples bad comments on MAVIC rims and agree with them. I feel that, like a racing car engine, Mavic build for a short life at high speed. They are Tour de France people who have crossed into MTBing and think that they can get away with thin wall narrow box sections. They are NOT for the guy who wants to assemble a Bomb-proof dream bike, ride it off road and keep it for a long time. I have had no trouble at all with any other part of my gear, - not even one single spoke. In short, I cannot understand why people trust Mavic in the off road world. They should not be allowed to produce and sell such crap at inflated prices | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Paul
a Weekend Warrior
from Salem, OR, US
Date Reviewed: June 29, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | Oregon single tracks | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | Light, strong. | | Weaknesses: | None yet but apparently I'm in the minority. | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic 237 | | Bike Setup: | GT Avalanche aluminum hardtail. Mavic 237 up front and 217 Sup out back. | | Bottom Line: | I've used the 217 Sup hard as a drive wheel with a Shimano LX hub for 4 or 5 years. Large river bank rocks only navigable at speed, roots, stumps, plenty of air time. Replaced the rear 237 early on when it potato chipped jumping over a log. The 217 has remained true for a long time.
Key seems to be having a good wheel builder build it. He told me the factory built (assembly line) wheels are weaker and that a wheel built by a good builder is much stronger. So far that has seemed to proven true. I just inspected for defects and everything still looks good.
If I weren't able to get a really good builder to lace 'em up I might look to another rim based on a lot of other reviews I've read. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Matt M
a Cross Country Rider
from Melbourne Australia
Date Reviewed: July 7, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Mt Beauty Australia | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | Came stock with bike | | Strengths: | Nice Stickers. | | Weaknesses: | Metal far too soft.
Eyelets rip out of rim. | | Similar Products Used: | Other stuff | | Bike Setup: | GIANT ATX 890 (but with Bombers) | | Bottom Line: | From day one the the eyelets started getting stress cracks around them (on the rear wheel). The rear rim needed regular truing to compensate for the spokes slowly pulling out. After two years of normal XC riding the cracks were massive and one day three spokes ripped completely out.
Brake surface is nice but these rims are not suitable for a rear wheel (especially nine speed) as the metal is too soft.
On the up side the stickers are nice and my front rim has hardly been touched in two years and has no cracks.
NOT recommended. | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
_RatAX
a
from Sintra, Portugal
Date Reviewed: March 21, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Bike Setup: | Uma Kona Explosiva AMARELA !!!! | | Bottom Line: | Os aros são bons, mas ao fim de levarem algumas porradas começam a fazer um barulho estranho. Na loja disseram-me q era a junção q se descolava!!! Eu mesmo os arranjei, mas depois de mais umas voltas voltava tudo ao mesmo, akele barulho q mais parece umas chaves a chocalhal...
Aguentam-se bem ás torções, são uma merda depois de umas travagens mais fortes (com os magura hs33), teem boa durabilidade.
Tirando o facto de fazerem esse barulho irritante, acho que foi apenas aquela serie q saiu assim, de resto sao excelentes. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jay
a Cross Country Rider
from Vancouver
Date Reviewed: March 21, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Ape Canyon | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | Marketplace | | Strengths: | Light
Stay Trued
| | Weaknesses: | Rattling pin deal sucks, but fixed with super glue | | Similar Products Used: | Mostly Mavic, but Sun also | | Bike Setup: | Full-suspension cross county bike | | Bottom Line: | Good rims that have held up well so far. The rattling pin deal is kind of a pain until you take the time to fix it. I don't know, two years on these babies and they are as true as the day I bought the wheel. What else to say? They work for their intended use: cross country racing. If you do big jumps, you will bend them. Also, lets face it folks, rims take a lot of abuse and fail from time to time. End of story. Half of the battle is building a good wheel. If you get two years out of a rim you are doing well. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave
a Weekend Warrior
from Wyoming
Date Reviewed: February 13, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Any without Grizzly Bears | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$180.00 | | Purchased At: | Colorado Cyclist | | Strengths: | Have only needed truing once a season since I bought them in 1996. Totally durable under normal XC riding. Colorado Cyclist builds the best wheels, hands down!! | | Weaknesses: | Rattling pin syndrome, but nothing a little epoxy didn't silence. Tough to get brake pad residue off ceramic rim coating. Decals coming off. | | Similar Products Used: | Old Trek Matrix (OEM) | | Bike Setup: | Wheels handmade by Colorado Cyclist. LX hubs laced with DT 14/15 spokes. Now on a 2000 Trek 9.9 Pro, previously used on a 1994 Trek 930. | | Bottom Line: | Seems wheel build quality greatly affects rim performance and longevity. If built correctly, this rim is tough as nails!! Keeps its true, brakes great under all conditions and they look cool, too. Five steamin' piles for Mavic!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Donald Jones
a Cross Country Rider
from Shirley,MA
Date Reviewed: January 31, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | lightweight | | Weaknesses: | Cannot connect the manufacturer except through dealers, not even email. | | Similar Products Used: | many | | Bike Setup: | Single speed, Paul WORM hub | | Bottom Line: | I commute 24 miles a day. I use my single speed during the winter. The rim split on me, on the brake surface, after about 1200 miles. No excuse for this. True I pick up a lot of salt, sand and ice but I keep the bike pretty clean. This rim gains its lightweight by shaving the walls too thin; making the rim sidewall unreliable and prone to failure for anyone but a recreational summer rider. Don't use this rim on your winter bike. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Van Hemsley
a Weekend Warrior
from New York
Date Reviewed: January 9, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Bethpage | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$100.00 | | Purchased At: | a bike shop | | Strengths: | Holds up for anything. It stayed true even after a road 2 miles on a flat tire! | | Weaknesses: | there is no weakness | | Similar Products Used: | i dont care | | Bottom Line: | its strong | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ben Estdale
a Weekend Warrior
from Dover, Kent, England.
Date Reviewed: August 28, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | penshurst | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$50.00 | | Purchased At: | Activ, Folkestone, Kent. | | Strengths: | Quality, strength and looks. | | Weaknesses: | My rear rim buckle badly for no reason, when stripped the inner casing had cracked all the way around the rim!!! Mavic replaced the rim with a 521 at no extra cost. | | Similar Products Used: | Rolf, Crossmax | | Bike Setup: | GT STS1000ds XTR/XT groupset | | Bottom Line: | My front rim is still going strong even after repeated exess abuse with little or no truing and definatley no craking (must have been a one off!!!). | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
mike sipley
a Cross Country Rider
from toronto, ontario, canada
Date Reviewed: May 2, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | raven shoot | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | just that, STRENGTH!! i've been through a number of front rims but this one holds up. one year of hard, no suspension riding and still true (sweet wheel builder though) | | Weaknesses: | none as yet | | Similar Products Used: | power beam | | Bike Setup: | cannondale m900
rigid (and i like that way)
LX/XT components | | Bottom Line: | buy, buy, buy. very happy with it holding up to much pounding. cash well spent.
i'm a solid 215lbs with no suspension and it loves me. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Euan
a Weekend Warrior
from Wellington, NZ
Date Reviewed: April 30, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Mt Tarawera-if you've been, you'll know! | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Strong as a bull on steroids, lokks the biz, kick ass rim! | | Weaknesses: | tad pricy | | Similar Products Used: | nuttin | | Bike Setup: | don't ask | | Bottom Line: | Hell yeah! I can't bunny-hop my way out of a paperbag, so my back rim gets a workout. 1 year o' hell, and she's still truer than a priest! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rick
a Weekend Warrior
from Bklyn, NY, US
Date Reviewed: April 10, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | There light | | Weaknesses: | They bend fast | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic 221's | | Bike Setup: | GT Avalanche Zoc XT, LX | | Bottom Line: | I thought these rims were suppossed to be really good. went out put a nuke proof front hub and XT rear hub. ONE HARD TRAIL RIDE AND THE BACK RIM IS LIKE 3 INCHES OUT OF TRUE.
I am a heavy wieght but come on. I just went out and bought a rear Deep V velocity and fron areo heat lets see if they hold up | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dan
a Cross Country Rider
from Middleton, Idaho, USA
Date Reviewed: April 7, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Any that a motorcycle hasn't torn up. | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Light weight and sweet looks. | | Weaknesses: | Inconsistent looking weld. | | Similar Products Used: | Why try anything else? | | Bike Setup: | 1994 Trek 7000 (probably dumped too much into this one)! | | Bottom Line: | Sunset is cool. I have never had to true these rims after 2 years (~600+ miles). I give them 5 flamin' Huffys. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike
a Cross Country Rider
from Flower Mound TX
Date Reviewed: March 25, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Tyler state park, Tyler TX | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Stay relativly straight for a couple of years if you keep after truing them. | | Weaknesses: | Spoke eys are weak and pull out, aluminum is too hard and brittle | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic 517, Sun | | Bike Setup: | Rocky Mountin Element Race, Z3, Fox Vanilla, King Hubs | | Bottom Line: | The rear rim started to disintegrate after a little less than two years. All the spoke eyes started to get stress fractures, the aluminum turned a lighter color around many of them and several pulled out completely. The LBS told me that they are heat treated to make them harder which keeps them round. Just be very careful when tightening spokes or you will cause them to fail. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
mike taylor badass adventure rider
a Cross Country Rider
from dallas
Date Reviewed: March 23, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | a long fast one | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | looks good, light, don't know what that guy compalining of the weight was riding but i want one! I had it a month, good rim, but i got a barbed wire flat and bashed it. oh well, got me home. I am too picky though so I stacked it out back. | | Weaknesses: | hard to find in sunset anodized.
Those are so cool! | | Similar Products Used: | 221, bonti mustang asym very good! | | Bike Setup: | carbon hdtl, xtr, 2x8 road 165mm crank, riser bars, yeti grips | | Bottom Line: | if i were you I would go buy it! The sidewalls are straightenable with linemans dikes and a soft cloth if you ever ding one, but it takes quite a lot of skill to put one back in proper round/hop. Run a lot of spoke tension on this rim it can handle it with the eyelets. if you can, since it IS a little flexier than steel, use long-threaded dbl butted spokes and locknuts (adds about 1oz to your wheel big deal, but makes it impossible to untrue short of a 10foot ledge onto a sidewalk! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
danny partridge
a Cross Country Rider
from iowa
Date Reviewed: February 24, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | fast times/ gravity cavity/becky's revenge | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | good strong straight rim and braking surface | | Weaknesses: | weld doesn't look smooth. also two little metal pieces inside the rim next to the weld came loose and rattle around.I put some liquid weld in there to try and stop it.
Also little pieces of metal end up in my xt v-brake pads after 3 years of use. stickers coming off | | Similar Products Used: | mavic 222, cxp11 138 | | Bike Setup: | fisher cronus 95 rs judyxc xt everything else | | Bottom Line: | I have hit this rim on a root at the bottom of a valley going up the other side. My shock bottomed out and so did my tire and I was sure that my rim was buttered toast, but nothing was wrong, it did not even need to be trued. Only problem was with the metal things near the weld that came loose and rattle around inside the rim. sup=gpood braking surface enjoy the ride | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
James Buckle
a Cross Country Rider
from Wigan,UK
Date Reviewed: February 15, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Les Arces Downhill Course (French Alps) | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Strong, light, looks nice! | | Weaknesses: | None really | | Similar Products Used: | Plenty of similar size rim | | Bike Setup: | FS Coyote, Z1 Drop-offs, maggies | | Bottom Line: | Crackin' rim, only killed my back one after 2 years, it's been smashed up for a while but it's always been straightenable until now!!
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Submitted by
Jim Malcome
a Weekend Warrior
from FT Lauderdale, Florida, USA
Date Reviewed: February 10, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Dusty Chutes | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Strong | | Weaknesses: | Weight | | Bike Setup: | I just invest in rims,
| | Bottom Line: | Strong, handbuilt, cheap. Very nice
.... Repeat" LISTEN TO JIMMY AND GO AND BUY THE SUP RIMS!"
.... Repeat" LISTEN TO JIMMY AND GO AND BUY THE SUP RIMS!"
.... Repeat" LISTEN TO JIMMY AND GO AND BUY THE SUP RIMS!"
.... Repeat" LISTEN TO JIMMY AND GO AND BUY THE SUP RIMS!"
.... Repeat" LISTEN TO JIMMY AND GO AND BUY THE SUP RIMS!"
I think you get to point, so get em | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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