Submitted by
glen
a Weekend Warrior
from san Mateo Ca U.S.A. Date Reviewed: October 29, 2007
Favorite Trail:
D.M.C.
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$400.00
Purchased At:
velo swap sf 03
Strengths:
super strong and light for A 170mm fork!
Weaknesses:
not to much. I have just one gripe. you can not run a 2.8 2.7 or smaller
Similar Products Used:
JR.T
Bike Setup:
04 A.line .fox,rc. d321. mrp bones 50x50. king.
Bottom Line:
this is my 2, 03 super,t . i sold my old one to a friend,for a $100 and I got one in better shape for. $200 on craigslist.org..so my bottom line is the 03 super t is A grate fork for freeriding jumping DH it can do it all..
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Submitted by
Jonathan Lafontaine
a Weekend Warrior
from Gatineau Date Reviewed: July 2, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Anything
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$250.00
Purchased At:
Bicyclettes de hull
Strengths:
Well they soak everything, it feels like riding a sponge! they look good and feel strong and have great control.
Weaknesses:
I find them a bit easy to bottom out but no worries this fork is worth it!
03 Devinci Banzai, Mavic D321 rims, Shimano deore..that pretty much it i guess!
Bottom Line:
Great fork i gave lots of fun with it and when i need to do seriouse business it backs me up on that!
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Submitted by
Sean
a Downhiller
from Albuquerque, NM, USA Date Reviewed: January 30, 2007
Favorite Trail:
GT
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
FAT TIRE CYCLES
Strengths:
Awesome plush and soft suspension!!!!! It takes literally every freakin bump, rut, whole watever!!! Rebound is really easy to set and really effective too!!
Weaknesses:
Just a lil heavy, but totally worth it.
Similar Products Used:
Dirt jumper Pro, Rock Shox team
Bike Setup:
Rocky Mountain RM9
Bottom Line:
They're really great forks, despite the fact that they're a little on the heavy side. But it is well woth your money.
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Submitted by
adam
a Downhiller
from england Date Reviewed: October 23, 2006
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$450.00
Purchased At:
second hand
Strengths:
not too heavy external preload and rebound adjust
Weaknesses:
not great tyre clearance, qr20 system works but can damage when over tightend
Similar Products Used:
boxxer race, junior t
Bike Setup:
big hit comp mono 6 tis single tracks...
Bottom Line:
This fork is dam good! Baught it in 05 for 250 quid! Which was half the price of things like 888s, and they have veryt similar damping (just no external compression), and i think if theyre set up welltheyre good matcj for any dh fork just dont have the travel for a really heavy rider. ive raced with them and beaten plenty of guys runnig brand new top notch things like 888s, boxxers world cups etc and theyve never bottoedout and i weihg 12 stone! Little bit of flex under braking (with my hope 6 pots !!!) Effective rebound adjust is very useful, light enough for pulling manual back hopping of stuff, 180 bunnys hops and all that kind off pissing around!
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Submitted by
Steven
a Downhiller
from orange county Ca Date Reviewed: April 11, 2006
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$350.00
Purchased At:
bought new old stock at jax
Strengths:
buttery blush, and exellent compression, also the hscv cartridges are relativly easy to use and work on, light for such a well built dc fork. These soak up the small stuff well and take large hits good too.
Weaknesses:
more adjustments would've been nice
Similar Products Used:
boxxer race
Bike Setup:
custom Fr rig
Bottom Line:
Great forks for all applications...'cept xc..., takes small hits no problem, no lateral flex, have bottomed out on 12 footer(i have medium springs in it, and only weigh 140) i dont know what the bozo jt below is talking about, the stantions are strong as hell on mine, no scratches or dents after some strong hits, so i have no regrets whatso ever about this fork, an exellent buy, and i would recomend to anyone, espically if you fide boxxers right now, i like these waaayyy better.
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Submitted by
Dave
a Downhiller
from Glasgow, UK Date Reviewed: April 19, 2005
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
Chain Reaction
Strengths:
04 version has adjustable lower crown So much better than Juniors and cheaper than Boxxers
Weaknesses:
Low oil height Seems to twist somehow when crashed but pops back Integrated fender crown Crappy manual!
04 Shore with Super T and Fox Vanilla RC, Maxxis Highroller 2.3 Tyres and 50/60mm integrated stem.
Bottom Line:
I've been using these forks for just over a month now and am very impressed with their performance. They've had a lot of trail use and racing and they never seem to stop working. Even when they bottom out it doesn't feel too harsh, drops and bumps are handled fine and adjustment is quick and easy.
But there are a few minor niggles:
The standard low oil height is a pain in the arse but to be honest it's bearable, it's not like it costs much for a bottle of oil. When I crash them they twist but they easily pop back into place, I don't know whether this is due to the integrated stem or pinch bolts but its bugging. Not a major problem though. Next theres the lower crown, I hate it. It looks good and everything but I dont like how small the fender is so I would rather fit another one, however the huge crown stops me mounting some types of fender as the support struts cant get around it. Finally the manual is crap, I really wish Marzocchi would just print a small manual for each fork rather than killing the worlds trees producing a telephone index that you dont have a clue what your reading about, took me ages to find the rebound controls because the diagram was frankly rubbish.
I would still recommend them though, none of their problems are worthy of moaning about and at least they dont need tuned from the box unlike some others...
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Submitted by
mat
a Weekend Warrior
from wales Date Reviewed: February 23, 2005
Favorite Trail:
the ash
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$300.00
Purchased At:
second user
Strengths:
smooth, stiff, they look invincible,look good.
Weaknesses:
Much heavier than I thought.
Similar Products Used:
Z1 wedges, 2002 junior T's, (tested only) shivers and 888's.
Bike Setup:
Stinky, XT, Hope, super T 2003 with integrated stem and diabolous oversize bar.
Bottom Line:
Just bought these 2 weeks ago. These are very nice forks. They compliment a 6 inch travel bike nicely, as they are not too long. Tried out 888's on a demo 9 and they made that feel raked out, so I settled for these. They feel twice as strong as the junior t's. I've heard people saying that junior t's spiked,and didn't understand what they meant untill I bought these. If you were to hit a series of small bumps and then a large one the junior t's would stop working and jar your hands off the bars. With these, they stay buttery all the time. I rode a track I normally ride and ended up waiting for my mates for a whole minute and a half. They turn trails with baby head sized boulders in to a smooth chute. I don't know how the people above broke them? they make the head tube on my stinky look puny. The nicest thing is you can hear the valving working away nicely as you ride rough trails. Tried jumping my most feared drop with it. The drop might seem puny to some but my skills aren't top notch. The drop is about 5 feet high and over a blind grassy jump with a tarmac landing. It made the jump seem easy. I've only got to watch out for the extra speed it's allowing me to carry. The weakness is that it ways a whole pound and a half more than my old junior T's(yes I did remove the ste). This means that if you're riding 30 milers like me you'd better be prepared to put in the leg-work. Very good for the weight conscious do it all'er. Like a big fork in a small package(It feels like a miniature 888).
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Submitted by
Eric
a Downhiller
from Everett,WA,US Date Reviewed: January 31, 2005
Favorite Trail:
Anything Whistler
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$500.00
Strengths:
Light and well balanced. Wheelys fine. My stinky 6 feels vary nice when matched with the super T.
Weaknesses:
Tire clearance. May push me to a new fork. 888 or shiver. I want to run a Michelin 2.8 but the largest the Super t will fit is a Intense 909 2.7 possibly.
Similar Products Used:
JR T- White Bros dh3 - 888
Bike Setup:
Stinky with Super T mrp Shimano Maxxis
Bottom Line:
I think that the Super t is a great feeling fork. I just hate the tire issue. I might sell now for a 888.
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Submitted by
Chris
a Downhiller
from Vancouver, BC Date Reviewed: January 17, 2005
Favorite Trail:
Timekiller
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$450.00
Strengths:
Well this fork is stiff, plush and super responsive at speed. Parts are still available in 05.
What can I say, this is on of the best forks Marz has prduced aside from it little quirks. Dual HSVC. External rebound and preload. If you can find one new grab it, they are going for next to nothing.
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Submitted by
Barney Rubble
a Downhiller
from Anytown, USA Date Reviewed: December 24, 2004
Favorite Trail:
Don't know if I have one.
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Purchased At:
Came on Norco
Strengths:
Simple design. Didn't break. Like the black look. Good dampening. Good price.
Weaknesses:
Tire size restrictions. Comes with too soft springs for anyone over 160lbs.
Similar Products Used:
Lots.
Bike Setup:
Norco shore, now with Shivers.
Bottom Line:
I saw below someone said an Intense DH 2.7 will fit. If you run a reasonably wide rim they will rub. Even with a narrow rim it must be tight. You don't want to run it in the mud. I've found anything rated 2.5 fits, most 2.6 and a few 2.7s fit. The Intense 909 2.7 does fit with a pretty wide rim. Kenda Kinetics 2.6 and Kenda Blue Grooves fit, not sure about 2.7 Nevegals. This is for the '03 model only, not the 04. If it was not for being so narrow, I like the fork. I've since purchased a Shiver for the tire fit issue.
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Submitted by
matt
a
from port alberni Date Reviewed: October 26, 2004
Favorite Trail:
whistler
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
600
Strengths:
really plush, 7", seems to be very strong, really light.
Weaknesses:
bottems quite a bit.
Similar Products Used:
02 jrt.
Bike Setup:
bighit dh,super t,hayes mags all the good stuff.
Bottom Line:
really nice fork. recomend to any 1 that wants a good freeride fork. i like everything about this fork.
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Submitted by
Jeff
a Downhiller
from Walnut Creek, Ca. 93497 Date Reviewed: August 25, 2004
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$650.00
Purchased At:
123bikes
Strengths:
Plush fork, nice and stiff make 6' drops feel like your landing on a pillow.
Weaknesses:
The crack they call a dropout. I have had this fork for 4 months and already broken the cast aluminum piece on the bottom. I called Marzocchi and they said it was my fault and I had to buy a new one for $35. I went to the bike shop and they said it happens to them all and it's a bad design but Marzocchi won't replace either part. I won't buy another marzoochi fork with this drop out.
Similar Products Used:
Shiver, JrT
Bike Setup:
Bullit with 5th element
Bottom Line:
Don't buy a Marzoochi fork with this type of drop out it's garage.
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Submitted by
j t
a Downhiller
from calgay, alberta, canada Date Reviewed: August 4, 2004
Favorite Trail:
a-line
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$800.00
Purchased At:
local bike shop
Strengths:
it looks nice
Weaknesses:
weak, skinny stanchions that crack and break.
Similar Products Used:
Psylo, 04' Shivers
Bike Setup:
rm7, 26/24" f/r
Bottom Line:
I thought that I was buying a "freeride - downhill" fork, as the chart on the Marzocchi web page and on the box. But after using it for only one summer, maybe 15 days riding, the fork snapped in half. It didn't crack or bend or creak or flex... the entire fork snapped in two pieces directly below the lower crown. I luckily escaped any injury from this, unlike a young kid a week earlier in Calgary who had the same thing happen but he smashed his face open in the process. As I went to get some coverage by the manufacturer, they told me it was such a freak occurance they won't cover anything. This was the response from the Candadian Marzocchi representative, everyone's favorite bike/parts/repairs monopolist "NORCO". I have yet to speak with an actual Marzocchi representative but having Norco represent them is an embarasement.
I highly recomend the Shiver line of forks from Marzocchi, but nothing else. I will never touch anything from Marzocchi that has a 32-35mm stanchion... especially that death trap the new 888.
I also ask that everyone not buy/support anything coming out of the Norco banner. They have become the Wal-mart of the bike industry in Canada, but with them "customer service" is their absolute last priority.
I have pictures of the faulty forks, and I am more than happy to share them with anyone that wants to see the garbage that is the Super T.
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Submitted by
Me
a Downhiller
from Somewhere in California Date Reviewed: July 2, 2004
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$500.00
Purchased At:
New at eBay.com
Strengths:
Integrated Stem, stiff, plush, and easy to install
Weaknesses:
If you buy it new, it will probly wont come with enough oil. Im going to truse other reviewers and try topping it off with some more oil. Im also loosing almost a whole inch of travel because of the missing oil. Hopfully adding more oil will solve that problem.----Even with this little misfortune...im not complaining, the fork still feels like butter
Cannondale Gemini 900 - DH setup w/ Blackspire guide, 03 Super T, Fox Vanilla RC rear shock...+ stock components
Bottom Line:
This is an awsome fork. I use it for freeriding and some downhill. Id reconmend it to anyone who is looking for a nice big fork with alot of travel. It'l take drops like nothing else, and super smooth on the decents. Skip the Jr. T and get the Super. Dont let the fork oil thing bother you,,,all you gotta do is squirt a little more in and itl be perfect. Even with the oil, i still give it 5 flamin poops. THis is one awsome fork!
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Submitted by
Sam
a Downhiller
from NH Date Reviewed: June 13, 2004
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$800.00
Strengths:
not to heavy
Weaknesses:
i cannot stand the dropouts, lower crown is pressfitted instead of bolted on so forget replacing a stantion, after a little while of abuse it makes terrible noises left and right
Bike Setup:
03 giant DH comp, mag 30's, 03 super t, race face ect...
Bottom Line:
i wouldnt recomend putting this fork on a giant, its way too tall. the bushings practicaly disintigrate after half a season of racing because the bike is so chopper. If you are racing downhill buy a race fork like the new 888 or a dorado
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Submitted by
Scott
a Downhiller
from S. Lake Tahoe Date Reviewed: April 21, 2004
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$549.00
Purchased At:
JensonUSA.com
Strengths:
Wonderfully stiff and plush. Not really all that bad to pedal uphill either.
Weaknesses:
? I haven't found anything to whine about yet.
Similar Products Used:
Zoke Jr.-T, Zoke wedge (crap), Fox Vanilla RL
Bike Setup:
Stinky w/ lots of upgrades. Basically a Stinky D-Lux now.
Bottom Line:
This fork truly is the nutts. I scraped the Z1 that came stock on my Stinky for a Jr.-T several years ago, and that was a nice upgrade, but the Super-T is definetly in another league than the Jr. The Jr-T is a wobbly wet noodle compared to the Super. I've beeen doing fast 4 foot to flat drops without any problems, so maybe the complaints about oil/spring weights depends on the indivdual forks. I believe that Jenson still has them for $550, and I would STRONGLY encourage any Jr.-T owners to fork out the cash (pun intended) and buy the Super. I can't spray enough about the difference. The QR-20 works great, and the 20mm axle makes a HUGE difference over a standard 12mm QR. Go buy one.
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Submitted by
Nathan Malinowski
a Weekend Warrior
from East Bridgewater, MA, USA Date Reviewed: February 24, 2004
Favorite Trail:
Vietnam
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$679.00
Purchased At:
Bike Barn-Whitman, MA
Strengths:
The superT is Very light weight for how strong it is. Seven inches of travel is great for ridin rocky trails or hittin big drops and lets not forget downhill. 20 mm axle is a really great feature too.
Weaknesses:
Marzocchi doesn't like to tell you that for someone who weighs over 160,(like Me....he hem 200) you really should uprgade the oil to 10 wieght and upgrade at least one side with a stronger spring. It was bottoming out and making a loud noise off of the big hits. (extra 130 bucks cuz I had to oil and both sides with new springs). Also if you use a integrated stem that comes with the shock and you crash and bend your bars, normally the stem spins with enough force, with the integrated theres no way for your bars to spin and a few riders I know dented frames because of this.
Similar Products Used:
03 Marzocchi DJ II
Bike Setup:
03 Rocky Mountain Flow - 19, 03 SuperT, Sun Intense Mag30 rim in front with Hugi hub, Alex DX in rear (Rockys come stock with these rims, bad ass), Maxxis Minion F Mobster in rear, Azonic shorty stem, Azonic doublewall riser bars, Shimano Hydrolic disc brakes, Black Spire chain tensioner
Bottom Line:
After upgrading the oil and springs I love my SuperT, The thing is indestructable, I'm alot smoother on the trails, downhills, and drops. Ridin for a year or so and I'm doin 7ft comfortably.
All in all a great product.
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Submitted by
Brock Fraser
a Downhiller
from Lillooet. BC.Canada Date Reviewed: January 25, 2004
2002 kona stab. Super t pro, fox vanilla rc, xtr, hayes 8" hydraulic, race face cranks/
Bottom Line:
These shocks are awesome for every reason possible. I have taken big drops with them and nothing happened at all. Overall, these shocks rock.
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Submitted by
Bird
a Weekend Warrior
from Las Pinas, Philippines Date Reviewed: October 20, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Ridge 2, Tagayatay Philippines
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$800.00
Purchased At:
Endless Bikeshop
Strengths:
-damping is greater. It really responds to the kind of terrain or riding that you are doing. -QR20 is very stiff. I instally noticed the difference versus a fork using a QR system.
Weaknesses:
-I have some doubts over the reliability of the QR20 plus, but only time can tell. To go downhilling, I have to remove the whell every weekend for the bike to fit it the VAN, I'm just not so sure if the QR20 design will hold-up for 3-4 years of use which is how long I plan to use this fork. I will post again to update on this issue after more time with the fork.
- tire clearance is very limited. Just to add to the list of useable tires, I'm using in with a Duro Leopard 2.6 with Mavic 131 rims with about 3mm clearance on the M-arch.
Similar Products Used:
Owned - 2002 Marzocchi Z1 Wedge Tried - 2002 Marzocchi Z1 Drop-off , 2002 and 2003 Junior T.
I wanted a set-up that I could use for generally XC but it should also be comforatable when going downhill. Using a 7-inch fork up front, adds to the burden of going uphill, but more than makes up when going down. The added weight and smaller turning angle require some getting used to.
I instantly felt the better plushness of this fork versus my old Z1 wedge. Sometimes, I mistakenly feel that I have a flat up front because of the buttery feel when I hit an obstacle, especially after the fork had broken in.
I still have to polish my technique but the drops are a lot easier to do with this fork on my Bullit.
The 2003 version has HSCV on both legs, versus the 2004 which has an SSV on one and HSCV on the other. This prometed me to purchase the 2003 even after the company announced their 2004 line-up.
I highly recommend to those who wants a good compromise between performance and weight for a good freeride, DH fork.
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Submitted by
Louis
a Downhiller
from Hawaii Date Reviewed: September 2, 2003
Favorite Trail:
A-Line
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1000.00
Strengths:
Plush, stiff, reliable.
Weaknesses:
Tire clearance. I'm running a 2.6 Gazzi (mind you, it is a HUGE 2.6) on a 521 and there is hardly any room for the rim to go out of true at all. I must have gotten lucky on the oil height because mine was OK. I was told Marzocchi actually ships them low on purpose to protect the seals.
Similar Products Used:
Boxxer, Dorado, Shiver, Jr T.
Bottom Line:
The fork to beat. No question. If you ride this fork side by side with a Boxxer you will be AMAZED at how much better the dampening, plushness and stiffness are on the Super. Marzocchis are hands down the most reliable forks on the market. Why any informed consumer would buy anything else is beyond me.
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Submitted by
matt
a
from ontario Date Reviewed: August 16, 2003
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
silent sports
Strengths:
very plush, takes big hits, responds like none other
Weaknesses:
the coating on the stanchions is starting to get little tiny chips in it and every day they seem to multiply, cant fit a bigger tire than 2.6
Similar Products Used:
tested boxxer and shiver
Bike Setup:
2003 norco shore stock
Bottom Line:
this fork is a good ride and it ment for the lighter rider. this fork is all you nedd to do any thing you want.
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Submitted by
mike s
a Downhiller
from van, bc, canada Date Reviewed: August 11, 2003
Favorite Trail:
National course to Clown Shoes
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Super plush and can take lots of abuse
Weaknesses:
Oil level from factory is waaaaaaayyyyy too low! I am only 135 lbs and was bottoming out on 4 footers. A couple of shops tried to sell me stiffer springs but I decided to check the oil level first (which is really easy to do) and am glad I did, saved $$$. After topping up the oil I haven't even come close to bottoming out even off 10-12 footers.
Similar Products Used:
02 and 03 monster, 02 shiver
Bike Setup:
03 shore (mostly stock)
Bottom Line:
Sweet fork! For lighter riders it is great for downhill or freeride. Was considering a shiver or a monster but am so happy with the super I don't think I will ever ride anything else.
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Submitted by
Shawn Brandon
a Weekend Warrior
from Georgia Date Reviewed: May 30, 2003
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$800.00
Purchased At:
Lifetime Bikes
Strengths:
Fork is plush and super stiff, integrated stem is awesome and really looks good to. QR 20mm axel is really cool and easy to use.
Weaknesses:
Comes with really soft springs, and needed oil added because fork was bottoming out on big stuff.
Similar Products Used:
White Brothers DH2, Risse Trixxy, and Shiver.
Bottom Line:
This fork rocks, I had A 2002 shiver and really liked it alot but it was just a little to heavey for the ridding I was doing. This fork looks good and is super easy to work on. X-Firm springs and 15 weight oil and this fork will take anything you can dish out. So far i am very happy with this fork and look forward to ridding it some more. You can't beat the price.
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Submitted by
Dave
a Downhiller
from Worcester, MA, USA Date Reviewed: May 22, 2003
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$899.00
Strengths:
Very plush, strong, light weight, all around kicks ass!
Weaknesses:
If you're a heavier rider like myself(210lbs) you will need to upgrade the springs and/or oil. I ride very aggresively. I hit many drops and jumps and it loves it!
Similar Products Used:
NONE, the boxxer is junk
Bike Setup:
01 Big Hit all 03 parts. Marz DC, FSA X-Drive cranks, XT deraileur, chain and cassette, MRP chainguide, 46T RaceFace chainring, Doublewide rims, 03 Hayes 8"discs ...indestructible
Bottom Line:
Buy this fork if your looking to beat the snot out of your DH/Freeride rig and not have to worry about the fork. I ride anything and never have to think twice about my Super T ever. The durablity of this fork is unsurpassed by any other company. "Marzocchi for life!"
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Submitted by
kern barta
a Downhiller
from truckee Date Reviewed: May 16, 2003
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Stiff, light, durable, very smooth. Integrated stem. Springs are perfect for me at 140 lbs. I don't huck though. This is my 4th marz. DC and the first I haven't ordered softer springs on.
Weaknesses:
Can't adjust head angle because lower crown is cryo-fit. Tire clearance is not an issue for me, never run more than 2.5. Travel should be full 175mm instead of claimed 170mm, and people tell me is actually even less. But, I haven't bottomed out yet.
Similar Products Used:
00 Mr T, 01 Super T, 01 Monster
Bike Setup:
03 Balfa BB7 with 5th E and floater. Rohloff speed hub 16x36 (super granny). Rhyno lite XL's. Nokian NBX's, thomson post, XTR cranks, blah, blah, blah...
Bottom Line:
Compared to my 01 monster the travel feels more plush. The tire sticks to the trail better. Don't know if it's the unsprung weight improvment or damping, but the super t is better. It does feel less rigid torsionally, but so far I don't notice any difference in tracking through the rock gardens. At 2.5 lbs. lighter, the super is way faster in and out of corners and through quick "S". Finally, dropping from 46ish to 44ish lbs. helps a little on the climbs and in fact with the 5th E and the rohloff climbing is not a big deal any more.
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Submitted by
chris
a
from nor cal Date Reviewed: May 8, 2003
Favorite Trail:
no name..
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
bike doc
Strengths:
stiff.. im big.. and it takes hits really well. i abuse it, and it wants more. durable.. its good for everything its PLUSH
Weaknesses:
tire clearence.. (see below) um.. not stiff springs out of the box
Similar Products Used:
jr t, boxxer
Bike Setup:
03 santa cruz bullit w/ superx freeride package
Bottom Line:
the bottom line.. I love this fork. its stiff, strong, plush, adjustable, and confidence inspiring. tires are an issue.. but here ya go.. Will Fit-
beyond that, you may have issues wiht rubbing.. i currently run nokian 2.3" and love them.. up the oil height, run stiffer springs, and you can hit anything if you are a freerider, a light dher or just anyonein the market for a light weight, high performance dc fork.. look at the super t
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Submitted by
Chris
a
from BC Canada Date Reviewed: May 3, 2003
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
http://www.covebike.com
Strengths:
They deliver what they're suppose to; a strong, long travel, light weight fork.
Weaknesses:
springs are too soft
Similar Products Used:
02 jr t
Bottom Line:
If you weigh more than your bike look into getting them set up with heavier springs/higher oil level. The factory set up is very dissapointing.
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Submitted by
chris chandler
a Downhiller
from sydney Date Reviewed: April 19, 2003
Favorite Trail:
red hill
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
chain reaction
Strengths:
everything except...
Weaknesses:
springs are too soft and left preload adjuster fell off on the first ride
Similar Products Used:
boxxer
Bike Setup:
bighit pro
Bottom Line:
these forks are sick but the springs are way to soft. I only weigh 65kg and they bottom off 5ft drops, makes you wonder who marzocchi thinks their forks are being used by. with new springs these forks will be perfect
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Submitted by
Branden
a Weekend Warrior
from Fair Oaks, CA, USA Date Reviewed: March 23, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Urban Assault/ Auburn
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
came with rm7-River Rat
Strengths:
Fork is incredibly stiff, gets full travel, and soaks up big hits and rocks like nothing.
Weaknesses:
When I first bought the fork it bottomed out on most 4ft+ flatlands but was easy to fix, just incresed the oil level with some 10wt. Now the fork gives smooth travel and ramps up at the bottom of the travel.
Similar Products Used:
Psylo SL, Psylo Race, Boxxer
Bike Setup:
RM 7, Super T's, Black spire Chain guide, otherwise stock
Bottom Line:
This fork handles whatever I throw at it and still doesn't way a ton. Since I increased the oil level I have launched a loading dock and landed only on the front wheel and it still doesn't bottom.
This fork is sooo sweet
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Submitted by
Gary OBryan
a Downhiller
from Atlanta, GA, USA Date Reviewed: March 5, 2003
Favorite Trail:
all
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$600.00
Strengths:
very stiff. integrated stem is a big plus.
Weaknesses:
standard springs are too soft! i weigh 185lbs. go ahead and take off the decals. leaves no adhesive on fork and that should tell you something.
Similar Products Used:
2001 Z1, White Bros SC 92
Bike Setup:
03' Bullit
Bottom Line:
Once I have stiffer springs i will be absolutely loving this fork! So, what are you waiting for? go get one!
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Submitted by
rob cole
a Downhiller
from london Date Reviewed: March 5, 2003
Favorite Trail:
aston hills for DH
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$500.00
Purchased At:
Wades Cycles
Strengths:
*Total re-design of classic Marzocchi fork *No noticeable flexure (relief after using 2002 Junior T!!) *Great damping system *Integrated fender and stem options *new QR20PRO axle is very neat *Look dope in matt black!
Weaknesses:
*Expensive compared to Junior T QR20 (£370) *Limited tire clearance *No adjustment on stanchion position (i.e. head angle) *Stock springs too soft *No compression damping adjustment
Similar Products Used:
2001 Super T Pro 2002 Junior T (QR) Rockshox Boxxer Rockshox Boxxer Race Stratos Marzocchi Shiver DC
Bike Setup:
Big Hit, Sun rims on Hope/Gusset hubs, DMR cranks, Tioga cube stem/bar, Easton post, XTR, Mr. Dirt Gizmo, blah blah....
Bottom Line:
First up we need to address this guy's comments from an earlier review:
"The QR20pro is really odd. You don't need tools to undo the dropouts, but you DO need an allen to loosen the axle to pull the wheel out. It holds the wheel very securely, but they need to figure out a system that uses NO tools to remove the front wheel. The current system seems very half-assed."
I don't know if he doesn't understand the system. You undo everything, slacken the bolts right back, push down on the front wheel and it falls free from the fork. that's it..simple? You really don't need an allen key..that was the whole point of their redesigning the QR20..
Ok, to get on with the review:
1) they don't feel or ride anything like the 2002 forks. This is a good thing, I felt the 2002 forks had too much travel for their 30mm stanchions, my 2002 Junior T was SO flexible and wobbly that I sold it after only 4 months.
2) The new 2003 forks have a totally new design, they increased legs to 32mm, have 2 new crowns, the lower crown is cryrofitted so no more head angle adjustments by sliding the legs up or down in the crown, but the cryofit makes the whole fork feel totally solid so its a good trade off.
3)HSCV damping. This is the same system used in the expensive Shiver DC fork, but with a smaller oil volume. It seems to work very well. You have the spring preload and rebound adjustment controls on the top of each leg, but no compression control which is a shame compared to Boxxer Team forks, but what the hell? The Super T works so well just leave it alone and ride..
4)the stock springs are way too soft. I only weigh 11 stone (sorry don't know what that is in KG, maybe 85kg?) and bottom out the fork in my local woods that are not a very hardcore place to ride. This year they have 2 sets of springs per leg, the importers suggested replacing 1 spring in each leg with "firm" (they come with "standard") and this should sort out my problem. the springs are only £18 for a pair which is cheap, I'm more worried about taking the forks apart and swapping the springs, but I'll deal with that when I get the springs..
5)tire clearance..Marzocchi need to look at this for the European market as we have mud all year round! I could easily fit a Maxxis High Roller 26"x2.5", also a Nokian Gazzolodi 26"x2.6" fits ok but there is little clearance for mud..guess I'll have to ride so fast all the mud falls off then..
6)Integreated components..I have to speak about this. Marzocchi took away all the fender mounting headsches by having Acerbis (top MX plastic people) make a minimal fender that bolts into the underside of the crown with 2 little bolts. This is totally neat, and seperates your aheadset lock-rod and fender mount into 2 seperate things.
The integrated stem looks good too, my friend is running one on his Shiver DC now that X-lite, Kona and Specialized are making the 31.8mm bars to fit the Marzocchi stems. I can get either 0mm extension or 70mm extension, which is either too short or too long for my bike (I run 35mm Tioga cube which is perfect). I can get the bigger handlebars, I will speak to B.E.T.D. (Goldtec) about making a custom stem about 40mm long with direct mounts for my top crown. I rode my friends big hit with shiver DC and integrated stem, the whole front of the bike felt flex-free, none of that waggle when you pull on the bars or turn into a corner. nice one marzocchi!
Overall, its still early days and I haven't had the change to do some proper DH riding, but I've been building large jumps in my local woods and riding it all over London and it feels SO MUCH BETTER than my Junior T that the extra $$$ was worth it. I nearly got the 2003 Junior as it uses the same stanchiosn / crowns as the Super T, but was only £370 with QR20PRO axle. All the riders on www.southerndownhill.com pursuaded me to get the Super T, saying the HSCV cartridges were well worth the extra £130. After riding the fork I agree, thanks guys!!
Anyone looking for a tough, super stiff, plush and smooth DH / freeride fork but doesn't want the weight and bulk of a Shiver DC, or the flimsy Boxxer Race, check out the Super T Pro..Marzocchi have made another classic!
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Submitted by
Brad
a
from NorCal Date Reviewed: February 16, 2003
A strong, rigid fork with quality travel. Travel is just over 6.5" (Factory rated 170mm = 6.69inches). The larger stanctions and monocast lowers provide a huge amount of controllablilty which is simply confedence-inspiring.
As a larger rider (220+lbs) I thought the stock springs would be too soft. But after doing a lot of urban riding with large drops to flat, the spring rate seems good for overall conditions. I may upgrade the spring rate in the future.
The dampening works great and offers good rebound adjustability.
With a 2.35 Intense DH tire, the clearance in the arch is comfortable. However, running a 2.5 will be close, and I'd like to know if it is possible to run a 2.7 because I don't think it will fit.
No rim brake bosses, and good riddence. But the disk brake housing clamp doesn't work well, and causes the housing to touch the stanchtion.
I'm also impressed with how light the fork is at less than 7lbs.
The QR20pro is really odd. You don't need tools to undo the dropouts, but you DO need an allen to loosen the axle to pull the wheel out. It holds the wheel very securely, but they need to figure out a system that uses NO tools to remove the front wheel. The current system seems very half-assed.
Overall, a good fork for the money. With better tire clearance I would give it 5 out of 5, but we'll just have to wait for the next year.
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Submitted by
Zane Longden
a Downhiller
from Ashland, Oregon, USA Date Reviewed: February 14, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Time Warp!
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
899
Strengths:
Stiff as I've ever felt, 32mm sanctions and the "monolight" one-piece arch are all the differences in the world, QR20 Pro system is "confidence inspiring" with its burlyness. The integrated direct mount stem (idiot-proof) and the metallic silver color is the shiznat
Weaknesses:
None yet, oil height was a bit low, but that was fixed after a ride or two... Oh yeah, the infamous tire clearance issue, it is TOO small, Zoke needs to address this issue, it is the ONLY weakness in the new redesigned 03 lineup
Similar Products Used:
01 Zoke Z1 MCR (130mm) Rock Shoxs so-called suspension forks
Bike Setup:
02 Stinky Primo, 03 Super-T, 26/24 Trailpimps, 2.6/3.0 Nokian Gazzaloddis, 8" Hayes F/R, RaceFace, LRP, Azonic, SRAM...all the stuff that makes the world a better place!
Bottom Line:
First off, this is my first dual crown fork, I upgraded from a 5" SC Zoke (see above). This fork along with the 24" wheel I put on the rear of my Stinky made my bike big hit capable! The geometry is perfect, I am doing larger drops than I thought I ever could (or would!) Wow, this fork is so ultra-stiff. The first thing I noticed with this beast is how much faster you get through the rough stuff! Just point, keep cranking the pedals and shoot it! Very stable and the tuning capabilities are enough to handle your urban junts over to 7-11 or a session at the local drop park. THE BOTTOM LINE: The stiffness means more predictability which means more confidence in your runs. As for the tire clearance, as several other reviews of the 03 Super-T Pro said, Just throw on a 2.6 Gazz and go... 5 stars and 5 stars, I highly recommended to anyone with a little bit of psycho in them(you know who you are) -- get one while you can
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Submitted by
Ed
a Downhiller
from San Francisco Date Reviewed: February 8, 2003
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$900.00
Purchased At:
Vision Cyclery
Strengths:
This fork is stiff and super smooooooth. It took about two days to brake in.
Weaknesses:
None except for the fact that I lost my preload adjuster knob.
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
02 bullit, Maxxis 2.5, hayes etc.
Bottom Line:
This fork kicks ass and is well worth the money. The only change that I made was the oil weight.
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Submitted by
Justin Anderson
a
from Tucson, AZ Date Reviewed: February 5, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Milagrosa Ridge
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$750.00
Strengths:
When I screw something up and land on the front wheel, the fork manages to save me.
Weaknesses:
The dampening adjustment knob fell off on my first ride becasue I forgot to tighten it. I emailed Marazocchi and they said they would send me a new one if I called.
Similar Products Used:
Z1qr20 and my friends Shiver but only in a parking lot
Bike Setup:
bullit
Bottom Line:
This fork gets the job done. You can't really ask for a better fork in this range. The travel is very smooth and seemingly endless for a 7" fork. Substantially more durable than a boxxer and better than the sherman, your only decision is weather it is worth the extra dough for a Monster T. If you get one, make sure you tighten down the adjustment knobs before you ride!!!
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Submitted by
DON WHEELIN
a Downhiller
from san jose Date Reviewed: February 4, 2003
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$800.00
Strengths:
The fork is very rigid,and gobbles up bumps.The adjustability is nice. Real good all around.Doesn't weigh a ton either!
Weaknesses:
Nothing I can tell, If I put some monster tires on there, I could see them rubbing on the crown.
Similar Products Used:
tested a boxxer. Owned a Hollowbrink G-7 sploogemaster Jam
Bike Setup:
02 bullit,weirwolfs on rynolites.pedals,chain,handlebars,cassette,grips,ect...
Bottom Line:
The Super T is a great fork. Its very smooth and active. The price isn't bad either, the bottom line is the quality will be remembered long after you forgot how much you spent anyway!
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Submitted by
matt
a Downhiller
from london,ontario,canada Date Reviewed: January 21, 2003
Favorite Trail:
all
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$750.00
Purchased At:
first cycle works
Strengths:
awsome fork , very plush and stiff ,good fork 4 all around riding
Weaknesses:
none
Similar Products Used:
shiver , monster , boxxer , jr.t
Bike Setup:
2001 launch, 2003 super t, hayes , xt ,sun double tracks , kenda tires , race face stem , easton ea 70 bar
Bottom Line:
this fork is awsome 4 a person that wants an all around bike, it soaks up everything and is light enough 4 mild dh racing. so if u want the fork that can do it all get the 2003 super t pro!!
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Chris Dainton
a
from Derbyshire, UK Date Reviewed: January 17, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Les Gets, France
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$750.00
Strengths:
Stiff. Ultra smooth travel - there is NO stiction. They don't lie about the amount of travel - it's all there to be used! And it looks the business. I had the oil changed from the start to suit my weight.
Weaknesses:
Turning circle. Arch restricts tyre size (I guess this was a deliberate design factor to make us buy a Shiver or Monster-T). QR20 pretty fiddly (why did they bother - how many times do you take the wheel off anyway?)
Similar Products Used:
2001 Jnr T; Stratos S7 (hey we ALL makes mistakes); 2002 Super-T (on a mates bike - he's now very jealous)
Bike Setup:
'02 Bullit with long travel Romic rear shock (gives 8.75" travel: OH BABY!). Who needs a Warranty away.
Bottom Line:
This is one mother of a fork. Sure, its not a full on downhill fork, but I use my bike for DH'ing and XCfreeride and it is everthing I need (and more!)
Need a long travel triple crown fork, Suits You Sir!. There is nothing to compete with it for the money.
Rockshox must be quaking in their boots - who's going buy Boxxers when this is available?
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Submitted by
BAMXBAM
a Weekend Warrior
from LA CA Date Reviewed: January 14, 2003
Favorite Trail:
viper
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
fork is stiff great adjustablty smooth travel eats up big hits well I weigh 200# changed oil
Weaknesses:
arch is to narrow 2.5 white tigers rub if fork is used on SC Bullit cuts down stering considerably if you ride alot of tight switch backs get a wider crown fork I had to remove rubber stops to get more radius
Similar Products Used:
shiver boxxer habbernik-junk white bros
Bike Setup:
03 bullit blah blah blah
Bottom Line:
dont get me wrong this fork is great much better than last year but this is my do everything bike i wish they would hav widened the crown a little when they gave it bigger tubes
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Submitted by
Trevor Hennigar
a Downhiller
from Canning, NS, CA Date Reviewed: January 10, 2003
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$700.00
Purchased At:
JA'S Bikes
Strengths:
Stiff as all hell, Incredible Damping, Easy Tunability, Awesome reliability, list could go forever
Weaknesses:
only thing i can think of is the small arch. But like the other reviewer said, put a 2.6 gazzi in there and your set to go
Bombproof, nothing will ever outdo this fork for what its made for. Light enough for DH but easily stiff enough to huck!!!! Could be a tad cheaper though.
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Submitted by
Chris Beratlis
a Downhiller
from Pleasanton, Ca. USA Date Reviewed: January 8, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Northstar
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$899.00
Purchased At:
N/A
Strengths:
Awesome travel! Infinite adjustability. There is no better fork out there!
Weaknesses:
Cannot fit my 2.8 Michelin - Could fit a Nokian Gazza 2.6 max (great tire but still not a Michelin)
Similar Products Used:
Rock Shox, Marzocchi 2001 Junior T.
Bike Setup:
2002 A/C 1 stok except for Single track rims & Nokian front & Panaracer 2.3 dh rear (best rear tire out there-period)
Bottom Line:
Marzocchi once again sets the standard for suspension. This fork sucks up anything you throw at it. Can't wait for the Northstar season to start. The stiffness of the new design is way noticeable, especially when taking hard corners at speed. Be carefull, this fork WILL GET YOU IN TROUBLE!!!! Put a Nokian 2.6 & run over anything in your path - no worries.
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