Submitted by
Karl
a Weekend Warrior
from Niagara Falls Date Reviewed: June 28, 2006
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Strengths:
Adjustable travel; plush in 100mm mode, stiff in 80mm mode. Adjustable rebound.
Weaknesses:
Travel adjust is inconvienient at bottom of fork leg. BLACK stickers fall off, poor quality control
Similar Products Used:
Marzocchi EXR, 2005 Black 120, Marzocchi MZ3, Fox F100R...
Bike Setup:
2002 Sugar 4+
Bottom Line:
Bottom line is poor quality control. The fork had a small hole in the lower leg. Initially, it was covered up by paint, and it went unnoticed. However, eventually, the fork leaked out all of its oil through this hole. No, not blown seals or anything like that. A HOLE in the metal! Not cool manipoo. Sure, seals and such fail, but this is inexuseable. The fork was not abused, or ridden all that much in the few years I owned it.
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Submitted by
mark
a Downhiller
from Nova Scotia Date Reviewed: August 14, 2005
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$200.00
Purchased At:
Cyclesmith
Strengths:
Everything
Weaknesses:
Never had a weakness
Similar Products Used:
Marz. Z-1's, z-5's, z-3's, Psylo XC's
Bike Setup:
P.1 with black,
Bottom Line:
Amazing fork, I had it for about 2 years. I did every riding style with it. I was mstly an urban/dirt jumper. It broke a while. I Snapped the arch after 2 years of abuse. It wasa snapped while doin 3's.It up well, and I would definitly own it again.
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Submitted by
Dan
a Weekend Warrior
from London Date Reviewed: July 26, 2004
Favorite Trail:
The Wall
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$300.00
Purchased At:
Merlin Cycles
Strengths:
Nice plush travel, when it works.
Weaknesses:
Small bump sensitivity is non existent, Leaks like a beached tanker, fades on long downhills, stiction, flexes, disc brakes rip the bushings in the left leg appart.
Similar Products Used:
Marzocchi MX comp air
Bike Setup:
Club roost XC4, LX, Formula Brakes, mavic XC717
Bottom Line:
This fork worked well for a few months after bedding in, but it required a lot of attention after that. Prep grease just leaks straight out, the bushings have crumbled. Got to the point where I had to fully rebuild it after every ride. My mate rides Marzocchi MX comp and they have lasted the same time without being replaced! I have just bought some and I cant wait for them to arrive.. Fair value chili as I got them 1/2 price but poor performance means 1 chili
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Submitted by
JAY CABRAL
a Racer
from hamilton ontario canada Date Reviewed: February 19, 2004
Favorite Trail:
kelso
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Purchased At:
ancaster cycle
Strengths:
nice fork when it werkin
Weaknesses:
its a tad heavey and it spemds alot of time at maitou
Similar Products Used:
none my stuff is usually good
Bike Setup:
giant nrs 2(02) wit time peds and hayes haydros
Bottom Line:
frum reading the rest of the reviews alot o ppl wit and 02 nrs 2 r having alot of trouble with this fork....and ppl who bought it sya its really good....mine been bac to manitou 3 times and ive fixed it myself a few times.....i even sent it bac after warrenty and the idiots didnt notice it was like almost 2 years old...yahooo...but ne way i think that giant got a bunch of the first crappy ones that were made and ppl r havin alot o trouble with em....some advice frum me is to ride it really hard and when the rebound damping braks inside get them to send u a new aluminium one....after i got that put in ive had no probs
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Submitted by
ed koz
a Weekend Warrior
from ont Date Reviewed: August 28, 2003
Favorite Trail:
dont understand
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$250.00
Purchased At:
eastside sports
Strengths:
rebound adjustment is nice/same with travel for if your stuck in some spot and u need the travel down to lower the front end (for trials)
Weaknesses:
too soft, but its good for street riding and trials, it flexes too much with a v brake on the front, also u need to get some stupid disk adapter if ur not using haze direct
Similar Products Used:
rock shox judy xc, like 6 years old now
Bike Setup:
planetX 3ball, fsa cranks, reer magura brake, xt front brake, xt back hub, mavic back rim, crap 20$ front wheel easton bars, crapy stem
Bottom Line:
its alot better than a judy xc but i would rather marzocchi, but because it is new and has all these adjustments, i would rather it over my marzocchi. It is a good setup for my trials bike, it just completes it.
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Submitted by
boczar ionut
a Cross Country Rider
from Galati GL Romania Date Reviewed: August 21, 2003
Favorite Trail:
there are to many
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
Good shock absortion, eas to adjust and multiple adjustments, stiff, price
Weaknesses:
A little bit heavy and some oil leaking
Similar Products Used:
RST, various Rock shox
Bike Setup:
Merida XC Mission Race
Bottom Line:
A good fork whit a bunch of adjustments which really works and very functional but it pays on weight and it leaks a little but only for a few miles A good fork overall
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Submitted by
Mike
a Downhiller
from Reno Date Reviewed: August 13, 2003
Favorite Trail:
anything going down
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$225.00
Purchased At:
pricepoint.com
Strengths:
it isn't made of cheese
Weaknesses:
pretty much everything
Similar Products Used:
marzocchi mx pro, marzocchi Z3, rock shox duke, rock shox judy
Bike Setup:
specialized enduro pro, all xt, avid disc,
Bottom Line:
What a peice! Out of the box it seems really nice. Then I rode this for a few months and next thing I know I was bottoming out off curbs. Now it feels like I have jello for my front suspension. I thought that something this heavy would be a bit tougher; especially from Manitou. I am 180 and try to ride pretty aggressive, so I understand to bottom out off the big stuff; but curbs! Come on! I recently bought a Marzocchi MX pro and it is amazing. Spend your money on a real shock, buy a Marzocchi.
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Submitted by
ad armitage
a Cross Country Rider
from huddersfield Date Reviewed: July 15, 2003
Favorite Trail:
glossop circle
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
leisure lakes
Strengths:
out of the box theyre grand,plush, tight and very comfy. easily adjustable and good lookin.
Weaknesses:
after 9 or 10 rides i bottomed them out and over tightened the preload. it cracked and now theyre nacked. i weigh 13.5 stone and they just arent set up for big guys.
Similar Products Used:
rock shox duke u turn
Bike Setup:
orange sub 3 deore disc. with extra spangly bits.
Bottom Line:
theyre rubbish. i want an upgrade already. 3 chillis for adjustability, 1 for the fact they stay nice for like 30 minutes.
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Submitted by
Frank Huseman
a Cross Country Rider
from Littlton, CO, USA Date Reviewed: June 29, 2003
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Purchased At:
Wheatridge Cyclery
Strengths:
Is strong, has travel adjustment and is soft but never bottems out.
Weaknesses:
Heavy
Similar Products Used:
Rock Shock phsylo.
Bike Setup:
Yeti FRO, Avid Mech Disk Brakes, Front derallerand crank LX,Rear duraler XTR, Time Atac carbon peddles.
Bottom Line:
Is a great fork for liter people like me. I have never bottemed it out even on a 4 foot cliff. My father who is 200 pounds bottemed it out down a steep hill.
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Submitted by
Ewok
a Racer
from Burlington, vermont, USA Date Reviewed: April 26, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Circumcision Highway
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
earls cyclery
Strengths:
Stiff, travel adjust
Weaknesses:
none
Similar Products Used:
duke U-turn
Bike Setup:
Fuel 80 w/blacks
Bottom Line:
great pair of shocks. I am a light rider (120lbs) so the 100mm is not to bouncy for me. i like the travel adjust. These shocks are not the lightest, but they are a great value.
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Submitted by
Kang you Kim
a Cross Country Rider
from Seoul Korea Date Reviewed: March 10, 2003
Favorite Trail:
jard single track
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$400.00
Purchased At:
A small shop
Strengths:
Adjustable travel(very easy), rebound(So smooth)
Weaknesses:
Well, I paid too much....
Similar Products Used:
RST etc...
Bike Setup:
Easton elite frame + this suspension + XT hubs + mabic 618 rims + etc.
Bottom Line:
I like feel hard. So, I like my frame Easton elite because that is so~~ Strong. And This shock is very very strong like down hill suspension. But its damping is very smooth like butter. If you want enough uphill & excited downhill, i`ll suggest this suspension without doubt.
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Submitted by
Henry Bosman
a Cross Country Rider
from Fishers, IN, USA Date Reviewed: January 11, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Difficult Run in Virginia
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Purchased At:
Bicycle Garage Indy
Strengths:
Adjustable travel is cool at first, till you find the setting you prefer. Damping adjustments are sufficient for me. Stickers came off, I like a cleaner, less busy look. Stiff and plush, don't feel any play between bushings and stantions. The lack of caliper standoffs gives it a cleaner look(bike has Avid disk brakes).
Weaknesses:
Came with a weak spring. Had to negotiate paying $ 30.00 less for the bike to cover the cost of a stronger spring. Plastic adjustment knobs. Although when you buy a stiffer spring, it comes with an aluminum cap that replaces the plastic preload cap(preload didn't do much anyway). A little heavy, but most 100 mm forks are.
Similar Products Used:
Rockshox Judy (2000)
Bike Setup:
Giant NRS 2 2002, stock except Time Pedals and Hutchinson Scorpion Tires(the best).
Bottom Line:
After a year, I haven't had any trouble with this fork. When It was brand new, changing the travel took excessive force, which wasn't comfortable to use since the lever is plastic. I leave the fork in the 100 mm setting now, the NRS2 seems to handle better at this setting. The 80 mm setting doesn't seem to increase the steering response(on this frame anyway) so I leave it set at 100 mm. The fork is plush and stiff and hasn't given me a reason to replace it. Which, is saying alot because I kind of like changing and modifying things. Don't like plastic knobs, especially because you would still pay around $300.00 for the fork.
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Submitted by
James
a Cross Country Rider
from San Diego, CA, USA Date Reviewed: December 7, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Cuyamaca Grand Loop
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Post-type disc brake mounts, Easy to take apart/service, 100mm travel.
Weaknesses:
front-to-back flex, comes with weak spring and light oil.
Similar Products Used:
Rock Shox Forks
Bike Setup:
Trek Fuel with mixed XT/XTR drive components, Fox Float rear shock, AVID disc brakes, Thomson stem and post, Chris King headset.
Bottom Line:
Bike manufacturers should put stronger spings in the forks they sell on larger frame bikes, and softer springs on smaller bikes. I'm sure there's some fat midgets and skinny giants, but in most cases, putting a "medium" spring on a "large" frame isn't a great idea.
The fork felt really plush with the stock spring, but it bobbed way to much while climbing, and there was alot of sag. This was an easy fix, I just ordered the new spring. I also had to keep the rebound adjustment knob all the way up untill I put in heavier weight oil. It doesn't bottom out anymore. Alot of the reviews here complain about it bottoming out, I would highly suggest changing the spring.
The fork works well and I haven't had to do much to it after setting it up. However, there is one thing I don't like. When lifting the front wheel off the ground (like in a workstand, etc.) with the front wheel spinning, the fork vibrates from front to back when I suddenly lock the brake. This hasn't been a problem while riding, but it indicates that there is some play either in the crown or where the stancions (sp?) connect with the bottom tubes. Again this isn't a real problem, but it doesn't inspire confidence. This MAY be my headset, but I doubt it, because it's pretty tight.
The stickers are puffy plastic jobs that have a "topographical" profile (they're not just printed from a flat sheet) And they came off right away. That's cool with me, I just left them off. If you want to have stickers on it, order a sticker kit for the higher end Black models, I think their stickers are the traditional flat vinyl type and they should stay on...but they're white instead of black.
There is a bit of stiction in the first half inch of travel, even when lubed. I thnk the Evil Genius seals (standard on the 03 version) should correct this, I plan on installing a set of those.
I'm happy with it.
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Submitted by
Frank Liebenberg
a Downhiller
from South Africa Date Reviewed: October 27, 2002
Bottoms out quite easy on 100mm travel. Stickers come off after a few rides
Similar Products Used:
Nothing as nice!
Bike Setup:
Trek Bruiser one
Bottom Line:
Strong as hell! Nothing feels better than a Manitou Black!!
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Submitted by
Rob
a Cross Country Rider
from London UK Date Reviewed: October 22, 2002
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
moose cycles
Strengths:
Super plush, nice adjusters, looks the horn.
Weaknesses:
a bit heavy, buttons in plastic look vulnerable .And it breaks ,oh yes...
Similar Products Used:
Rock Shoxs, Arse st's e.t.c..
Bike Setup:
commencal normal (the forks come on the bike)
Bottom Line:
If I'd read the reviews here before I purchased perhaps I might have thought again... Travel adjustment bust (hard to get back to 80mm, noise e.t.c.,) the plastic button for preload split and just spun, this was all almost immediately. The bike shop sent it back...I read these other reviews and began to worry...upgrades entered my mind....
The fork came back repaired within two weeks and is all sorted: still very plush, especially after break in. Bottoms out a bit ,but not too much, and all the faults are fixed. it really is a very nice fork (providing it stays that way) Oh and the decals: If you like them and they fall off ,glue them back on with superglue. If you don't like them ,then think of all the weight you've saved ;)
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Submitted by
Lake Bennedict
a
from Tahoe Date Reviewed: October 13, 2002
2002 Ventana El Saltamontes - built via Mail Order at home.
Bottom Line:
awseome shock for my home assembled Ventana. I cannot complain with the performance or price. it took a while to dial in but feel that it's better than the Bomber or Judy that i've used in the past.
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Submitted by
TM
a Weekend Warrior
from Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Date Reviewed: October 12, 2002
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
--100MM travel adjust --Reverse Arch --Neat Looking RED
Weaknesses:
Possibly the plastic knobs
Bike Setup:
Giant NRS 2
Bottom Line:
Frankly, I think these forks are JUST FINE! I weigh areound 170Lbs so these work perfect with me and everything I need to adjuest is easily done!
I have ridden these UP hills, down steep hill, Down lots and lots of stairs, off drops etc and they have held up perfectly fine!
Look for what you would pay for them they are fine! Possibly not great if you are a hardcore rider doing couple of 100Ks in your weekends
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Submitted by
Jerry Bowers
a Weekend Warrior
from Salt Lake City UT Date Reviewed: September 26, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Good Question
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
Came with bike
Strengths:
Strengths? Have not seen alot of these. Maybe adjustability, NO that stopped working too.
Weaknesses:
Mantiou Customer Service. Travel adjustment breaks rebound assembly stops working, Too many to list
Similar Products Used:
Rock Shox Judy, Indy, and Manitou SX
Bike Setup:
Giant NRS 2
Bottom Line:
If you are reading this because you are thinking of buying one of these, for the love of god DO NOT. These forks are really crappy. I got mine new with my NRS about 4 months ago and it has spent 50% of its life in the back of a UPS truck. The Travel Adjust has broken internally twice, the dampining once. It is currently on its forth trip back to Manitou. It takes at least 3 weeks to get it back each time and it lasts about 4 rides. So my bottom line is don't buy a Black, But if you are going to by one regardless of my and all of the other advice on this site you should buy the new 03 Black Elite that Manitou is sending me. It will be here in three weeks after all the guys at mantiou get done with Tea time. I don't know why in the world you would want a Black, but if you do I'll sell you a brand new one cheap. Call me at 435-674-2047 if you want it.
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Submitted by
K-BONE
a Cross Country Rider
from RHODE ISLAND Date Reviewed: September 18, 2002
Favorite Trail:
THE ROLLER COASTER
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
NOT IMPORTANT
Strengths:
NONE!!!!
Weaknesses:
This fork rode good for about two weeks, then it started going down hill! I have had to change the rebound damper twice and even after manipoo upgraded it, it still failed. This fork just plain and simply sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Similar Products Used:
Manitou magnum r
Bike Setup:
Trek Fuel
Bottom Line:
The bottom line is "stay away from this product"!!!!!
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Submitted by
Mark
a Cross Country Rider
from Denver, CO Date Reviewed: August 21, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Anything single and steep
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
Campus Cycles
Strengths:
Adjustability. Nice for the real rocky sections. Since our state is bone dry this year, the trails are pretty beat up and rutted. Nice to have that extra 20mm
Weaknesses:
Loud cracking/clunking noise when the shock rebounds in the 80mm position. Almost sounds like the Spring has come loose. Has anyone else heard this noise? Ive only had the shock for a week (5 rides) maybe 75 miles total. Im no shock expert but I cant imagine this is normal.
Bike Setup:
Giant NRS 2 Stock
Bottom Line:
A bit rattled with all the negative comments below. If im having these problems with only 5 rides, whats going to happen at 6 months, 1 year?
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Submitted by
Eric Sven
a Cross Country Rider
from Gallup, NM Date Reviewed: August 8, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Any. Just ride.
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$250.00
Purchased At:
LBS
Strengths:
*The adjustable kicks! *Completely badass looking with reverse arch *100 mm mode great for techical trail riding *80 mm mode great for climbing
Weaknesses:
*Cheap travel and rebound knobs--it's not IF they break, but WHEN. *100 mm mode not great for climbing *80 mm mode not great for descents
Similar Products Used:
2000 Judy Race; 2003 Duke XC (U-turn); 2000 Manitou Magnum R
*Overall, a relatively parallel "upgrade" from my 2000 Judy Race; definitely more plush on the descents, and the stiffer 80 mm travel mode just rocks on the climbs *Unfortunately, the reverse is not true *It may be the baddest looking fork ever, but who cares (and as for the sticker issue: spare me! It may be a goof on Manitou's part (ie, looks cheap) but it's for a MTB, not a road bike! Sheesh!) *I'm more concerned about the cheap knobs--WHEN they break, this will affect the fork's abilities *THM: the 2003 Duke is a better fork--save your money and buy it instead.
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Submitted by
clay
a Weekend Warrior
from ME Date Reviewed: August 3, 2002
Favorite Trail:
drops!
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
came stock
Strengths:
Very nice looking fork, cheapish
Weaknesses:
trashy, weak, bad brake mounts for the disc, bad strength
Similar Products Used:
rock shox, marzocchi, you name it
Bike Setup:
jamis dakar comp 2002
Bottom Line:
I wanted to post this to warn people not to buy this fork. This fork sucks so bad it makes me want to cry. Not only does it bottom out preloading for a bunny hop, but I've already destroyed 2 forks and had to wait months for replacements. The fork is so weak that I bent one of the legs down. Ugh, nothing but trouble. I will never buy manitou again. Marzocchi and rock shox psylo are the only way to go!
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Submitted by
Royce Barron
a Cross Country Rider
from Litchfield, AZ Date Reviewed: July 16, 2002
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$289.00
Purchased At:
LBS
Strengths:
Fantastic ride - Plush yet progressive. I cannot say enough good stuff about this fork. When I assembled my Yeti, I was hesitant on using this fork due to all the bashing on this site.
Weaknesses:
Stickers came off - actually looks better without them (if that qualifies as a weakness).
Similar Products Used:
RockShox Dukes on my (sold) Motobecane.
Bike Setup:
Yeti AS-R Pro
Bottom Line:
I'm 190lbs and this fork fits me just fine. No leaks or noticable performance drop after 6 mos of 50% trail and 50% rough riding. I keep the rebound damper set at 75% + and run in the 100mm setting 100% of the time. The internal spring is medium. I'll probably buy these again when I build my next bike in 2-3 years.
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Submitted by
Mario Franco
a Cross Country Rider
from Vacaville, CA Date Reviewed: July 11, 2002
Favorite Trail:
anything with dirt, rocks and mud
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1.00
Purchased At:
Came with the bike
Strengths:
-Adjustability from 80 to 100 -Nice and firm when it is set to 80mm -Adjustment knobs are straight forward and easy to understand
Weaknesses:
-Adjustment knobs are plastic -Pain in the A$$ to look for an adaptor when installing disc brakes. Why can't everyone just use the International Standard? Manipoo just had to be different. -Way too soft when it is set in 100mm
Similar Products Used:
Marzocchi Freeride
Bike Setup:
Trek fuel 90
Bottom Line:
Its a good fork for the price and it really compliments the Fuel 90. It just needs a lot improvements. Maybe the next generation Black line will be a lot better.
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Submitted by
Jerry Bowers
a Weekend Warrior
from St George UT Date Reviewed: July 3, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Bobsled
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
Red Rock Bicycles
Strengths:
Looks Cool, Adjustable travel is sweet, I like how it lifts the front of the bike when I go to the 100mm, and it is quite plush.
Weaknesses:
Lots so far. The travel adjust stopped working on my second ride, and I think that the rebound dampining blew as well. It is too soft and bottons out over small drops. The stickers seem to be lick and stick, and the dinky plastic rebound knob is already cracked.
Similar Products Used:
Rock shox Indy Race, manitou magnum, Judy C
Bike Setup:
New Nrs 2
Bottom Line:
This Fork has been a pain in the butt(my review will probably get deleted if I swear). I bought a bike with it on it a month ago and have hardly ridden it because it took Manitou 3 weeks to repair when the dampining blew on m second ride. Got it back now and there is a little oil leaking onto the fork boots. I am wondering if it is just assembly lube or something, but it sems to be getting worse so I think it is broke again, 2 rides after I got it back from manitou. Manitou customer service could be better. It seems to me that 3 weeks is to long to wait on a brand new bike, and they don't seem to want to talk about this leak. So I guess my bottom line is this. I have hardly riden the thing because it has been broke. When it works it feels pretty sweet, just a little soft. the rapid travel adjustment is awsome, but I will never buy another Manitou product unless they really redeem themselvs and make this thing work quick. Don't buy a Black there are better forks in the price range
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Submitted by
Aaron
a Cross Country Rider
from Seattle, WA Date Reviewed: June 4, 2002
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
No flex, very rigid.
Weaknesses:
The fork as a whole, it's a piece of crap. It comes completely undersprung and underdampened with no bottom out bumper. I had to put in ten-weight oil and change out the inner coil.
Similar Products Used:
Pyslo SL, SID Race, Pyslo XC
Bike Setup:
K2 Fly'n monkey
Bottom Line:
Like I said above this fork is a big piece of crap. I don't understand how this fork could be put into production with the way that it rides. With it's "medium" coil setup it is supposed to hold up to a 170lb. rider, but will bottom out with a 150lb rider. I don't know how the other Blacks ride, but this one should be thrown in a dumpster.
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Submitted by
James
a Cross Country Rider
from NY, NY Date Reviewed: May 20, 2002
Favorite Trail:
lots, across the USA
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
OE
Strengths:
Stiff, esp for standard axle; smooth travel. Good overall quality product for price, except for those moveable stickers, of course. Adjustable travel is great and works.
Weaknesses:
no substantial weakness so far. cheap plastic adjustment knobs at bottom of fork legs (have to be careful, see reviews below on those breaking); they get moved by accident easily. Hard to tell if rebound damping adjust has significant effect. 2nd generation black may get key improvements.
Similar Products Used:
Marz. Z1 QR20, Judys, Psylo SL
Bike Setup:
Trek Fuel
Bottom Line:
Only 3 rides and total of 30 miles so far, but it is a sweet fork for the price & NO complaints. My local trails are the rocky Wissahickon, so I have given the fork a good testing, dropping and riding over lots of rocks and roots with abandon. I weigh about 165 with riding gear and a loaded HAWG & have not experienced any bottoming. Although i have turned the preload all the way, the stock springs do not seem to be way too soft as some have complained. Fork is sensitive to intial travel and smooth. Also, does ramp up appropiately into the travel. It is much plusher in 100mm mode and as I've heard somewhere, it appears 80mm ramps up the preload considerably and travel is also firmer. As a number of reviews noted, there may have been a problem w/ OE forks on GIant NRS's. I ride downhill & freeride on my RM6 and even throw my new cross-country Fuel down rock gullies, flying over small 2-3' drops, and at least my fork has had no problems soaking it up, even in 80mm mode, for a midweight rider. Would be nice if it was lighter, but compares reasonably w/ competitor's offerings.
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Submitted by
Ty Law
a Racer
from Boston, MA Date Reviewed: May 19, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Nam
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1.00
Purchased At:
LBS
Strengths:
Absorbs some small shock
Weaknesses:
Bottoms out going off a curb, Ton of Plastic, All around poor quality all around.. from the stickers that fall off on the first day to the plastic knobs and adjusters. (don't think they do anything on this fork anyway!)
Similar Products Used:
Rock Shox, Fox, Etc
Bike Setup:
2002 Giant NRS 2
Bottom Line:
Came with the bike. Im not sure why Giant would spec a Large NRS 2 with a shox that is designed for a 110lb rider max. I guess they were expecting alot of skinny 6 ft tall guys. First impressions were awful. Bottoming out over anything cheap stickers and plastic knobs. I had to buy the EXTRA FIRM spring kit which set me back $30. Now the fork rides much better. If you weigh over 180 you must get the firm springs or this thing is just a huge joke. Im waiting for cheap plastic knobs etc to break any day now like my friends Black Comp has. Adjusting between 80mm/100mm is a two person job and was a big pain in the a@# on mine. Maybe this isn't true for everyone. At first I thought it was broken because I figured Manitou would design travel adjustment that could be performed by one person. I was wrong. I needed one person to flip the switch when I had the fork compressed. It didn't work any other way for me. I wouldn't be surprised if its broken. For those that say this isn't a DH fork or this thing never bottoms out.... get off the rail trail. Bottom Line if it comes with the bike there you are with a Black Comp. Don't go out and buy this thing. If you are over 180 and buy the frim spring with the bike. you will need it
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Submitted by
David Perry
a Racer
from Waverly, NY Date Reviewed: May 19, 2002
Favorite Trail:
shindigan
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
rocky's bike shop Monroeton PA
Strengths:
looks good till the stickers fall off. Easy to adjust rebound and travel. sticks well in corners
Weaknesses:
Stickers fell off first washing, Sends me over the handle bars every time it bottoms, It's not as if it's just plain too soft it hit's hard when coming off a drop (or just on the launch of a jump) then after the initial harsh engagement it just drops right to the bottom and slams off the bottom. It feels as if manitou was depending on the compression to give the ride stiffness and ride height rather than use the spring. In my oppinion it should have two lighter weight springs instead of 1 hard spring. Very poor technology went into the thinking of this fork. The boys over at manitou should ride my 2001 Judy XC fork and they'd probably fall in love and then you'd see two springs and different dampening.
Similar Products Used:
judy xc, marzocchi x-fly, rst ( i believe this is even a better feel than the black)
Bike Setup:
NRS 2 with 2.4 wtb tire up front, 2.1 smoke rear tire, stock otherwise
Bottom Line:
The bottom line is I've had this bike back to the dealer (thank god they've worked with me the whole time) 3 times and finally it sorta feels like a fork. I believe they took a wrong turn over at manitou when they created this fork because it just fells like sh*t. It hits hard upon initial engagement and then just drops and bottoms.
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Submitted by
chris(SHADRACK) shadley
a Weekend Warrior
from austin(FREEKCITY),TX Date Reviewed: May 16, 2002
Favorite Trail:
all around
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
OZONE(where bikes come from)
Strengths:
most definitly stiff.all blk..cause the stickers came off(looks better that way)80-100mm 0f adjustable travel is a plus.the fork is plush(TRUEDATIS)and handles like it should...FOR FREEK RIDERS
Weaknesses:
none just yet ..but..DUDE,I've only ridden it for 'bout 30 days...A HARD 30..but I'm still tryin.Some may think it's too plush...NOT ME..it's just enough for me...ALTHOUGH I'm gettin the guy's to hook me up with the Supper Air(but that's out of preference...more options and crap like that)
Similar Products Used:
sid,psylo...and other stuff(PSYLO's preaty sweet too)
Bike Setup:
YETI KOKAPELLI w/o disk ..reg set up
Bottom Line:
A good fork w/ a few options..handles very well
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Submitted by
Cam
a Cross Country Rider
from Melbourne Date Reviewed: May 11, 2002
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
very plush, 100mm travel is all you need for downhilling whilst on a cross country ride, 80mm feels firm but still soaks up the bumps, easy to switch from 80mm-100mm
Weaknesses:
so far the adjustment knob on the top of the fork and the switch on the right side seem to do sweet FA! also I have to bounce on the thing going from 100mm-80mm to stop a weird noise occurring, feels as though the spring is too taunt or something
Bike Setup:
Stock NRS 2
Bottom Line:
At first it felt too soft after coming off a Z5 Bomber, but I soon got used to the softer feel and now the ride feels much much smoother, and better.
So far I have had no mechanical problems at all with the fork, I have a large sized NRS 2, and weigh about 170-180lbs with riding stuff on, and basically even on aggressive downhill parts I never bottom the thing out, if you are a real heavy weight, don't blame the fork, try losing some weight or get into downhilling, or better still, weightlifting, as the fork can only take so much.
If you are mainly a recretional rider and your bike comes with this fork as stock, I'd keep it, I would not buy it if I was trying to build a top end racing bike, I'd go for something lighter.....but overall I'm quite happy with the thing apart from the adjustment features that don't seem to do anything.
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Submitted by
Josh Holland
a Weekend Warrior
from Tuscaloosa, Al, U.S. Date Reviewed: May 9, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Monsento Mt. Huntsville AL
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
Cyclepath
Strengths:
Not to many. It looks pretty cool for a while. It is plush, but almost to much. Seems to be set up for a begginer, or someone who doesn't ride to hard.
Weaknesses:
Bottoms way toooo easy. Toooo much plastic, Mine has not broken yet, but others have. The cool stickers fall off, but that really doesn't matter.
Similar Products Used:
Marzocchi z1,z3,mcr,Rocshox psylo,sid
Bike Setup:
GF sugar 4+, pretty stock except for tires and handlebars. It is mostly LX
Bottom Line:
If you are light weight and ride soft trails, it would be ok. I don't get to the trails to often. I do more urban riding. Campus stairs and drops are a little better for the time that I have between college and work. The fork bottoms if you hopp off a curb to hard. I had different weights of oil put in it, and I was going to have the coils changed. I ended up jumping a set of stairs about 6 or 7 feet high, and when I came down, it bottommed out. When I came up it topped out. After that it didn't work well at all and made really weird noises.Maybe I don't land very soft, but I didn't expect to jump one big thing, and have to send it back. I sent it off through the bike shop about three weeks ago, and have heard nothing, but I do live in Alabama. Maybe they will just send me a MARZOCCHI DIRT JUMPER II. Ha Ha
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Submitted by
Paul
a Cross Country Rider
from Clearwater, Florida Date Reviewed: May 7, 2002
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1.00
Purchased At:
Suncoast
Strengths:
Works fine, now. Looks good.
Weaknesses:
Had to replace the spring w/ the extra firm spring kit to keep from bottoming out all the time (196 lbs). Solved that problem but lost my tension adjuster, oh well. Manitou sent me a better set of replacement stickers for the ones that fell off, thanks guys. I run the 100 mm position so the lever that holds the shock in the 80 mm position won't fail like it did on my buddys Black (stock on the Trek Fuel). The fork just happens to work for me the way it is now, however, if you plan on running 80 mm only buy something else.
Similar Products Used:
RS,RST
Bike Setup:
Sugar 4 upgraded to XT. Love my bike.
Bottom Line:
Good, not great. Would rather have a Float or SID; someday.
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Submitted by
jay
a Cross Country Rider
from nc Date Reviewed: April 19, 2002
Favorite Trail:
bade park
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$199.00
Purchased At:
aardvarkcycles.com
Strengths:
very good looking, cheap, great travel, good adjuistments, eats up the bumps.
Weaknesses:
i am 13 years old and weigh 110 and i get close to bottoming out just buy bouncing on the shox. if you wiegh more than 145 than you would haft to get ferm springs
Similar Products Used:
judy tt
Bike Setup:
gary fisher ginis hardtail
Bottom Line:
great fork, not good for people over 145 unless you get firmer springs
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Submitted by
Jim Bob Savage
a Downhiller
from Youngtown, Tenn. USA Date Reviewed: April 8, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Granny Flats
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$1.00
Purchased At:
in-N-out burger
Strengths:
It be the bestest workin fork I ever seen. I jumped over George's Cow this today before supper.
Weaknesses:
It tends to go up and down somtimes, but I fixed that by putting some manuer in the joints.
Similar Products Used:
There ain't none.
Bottom Line:
Riding with this fork is like being cought in a horse's butt while tryng to milk "ol Bessie" at the same time.
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Submitted by
Lynn
a Cross Country Rider
from Lincoln, Ca. Date Reviewed: April 6, 2002
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
OEM on Trek Fuel
Strengths:
Good idea, sloppy implementation. Reverse arch looks cool, does it work? Dunno.
Weaknesses:
Damper blew a seal after two easy rides (15 mi.). The decals come off, the knobs bend and break.
Similar Products Used:
Lots of stuff.
Bike Setup:
See above
Bottom Line:
Warranty work sucks. Thats the bottom line. How this fork maintains a 3.25 average is beyond me.
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Submitted by
Robby
a Cross Country Rider
from Lincoln Ne USA Date Reviewed: April 6, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Barksdale AFB East Res.
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$350.00
Purchased At:
Cycle works
Strengths:
Strengths? I don't know about strength, but it is a good joke.
Weaknesses:
I rode this shock for exactly 96 miles. After about 80 miles the rebound broke in the middle of a ride. After another 14 miles the 80-100mm also broke. Oh yeah, the little dial on the top of the fork for dampening looks really cute, and it never broke, but then again, it never worked to begin with.
Similar Products Used:
Similar? As in just like it? Anything that costs a lot of money and is disposable. Hmm...I guess a similar product would be college world series tickets, they are expensive and you only get to use them once.
Bike Setup:
Trek 7000, hayes hydraulic front brake, rhyno-lite wheels with XT hubs, and a worthless front shock.
Bottom Line:
Remeber when you were a little kid and your mother would tell you: "don't touch it, you'll break it." Well, the same thing goes here, I live in Nebraska, as in flat and windy. This shock made it 96 miles before everything was broken. Not to mention that the wind in Nebraska is enough to remove the decals right off of this shock. Now, as an added benefit, I get to wait two weeks or more to get my bike back. If you want a bike that looks cool, but you never plan on actually using it, this is the shock for you. If you ride however, this is not the product for you. I weigh 178 lbs. and I have no trouble bottoming out this fork, even before everything inside of it turned to butter.
They should re-name this fork from BLACK to BRING BACK, because if you buy this fork, you will probably end up back at the dealer that suckered you into buying the "new cool looking fork from manitou."
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Submitted by
Michael
a Weekend Warrior
from Aiken, SC, USA Date Reviewed: April 3, 2002
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
Andy Jordan's
Strengths:
Fork came with the Giant NRS 2. I am having a really hard time coming up with a strength for this fork. I rode it with the standard spring, it bottomed. Changed the oil...It bottomed. Put in an ultra (extra?) firm spring...changed the oil...wheatever. It bottoms. Wish I could fit my Manitou 4 on my bike...Whoops. This is the strengths section! Sorry.
Weaknesses:
This shock bottoms out at the sight of a root, twig or drop off. I weigh around 235 lbs and have installed the extra firm spring (an additional $30) and it made NO DIFFERENCE. ZERO. I have to keep the front tire pumped up to at least 45 psi to keep pinch flats to a minimum. If I could get this front shock to respond half as well as the NRS system I would be happy.
Similar Products Used:
Manitou 4
Bike Setup:
'02 Giant NRS 2...Panaracer Trailblasters...Thompson seatpost...other minor stuff
Bottom Line:
If you weigh anything near 200 lbs, find something else. This thing bottoms out hard.
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Submitted by
glyn pritchard
a Downhiller
from scotland Date Reviewed: March 31, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Anoch mor, fort wiliam scotland
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$250.00
Purchased At:
Local bike shop
Strengths:
Easy to adjust, light, looks great, smoth stroke.
Weaknesses:
Spring is to soft, I can bottom it out doing only small drop off's, if your a heavy rider go for the elite.
Similar Products Used:
Manitou sx, rock shox phylo sl
Bike Setup:
Jump/trials frame
Bottom Line:
If you weigh less than 11 stone then this fork will work well for you, its push and easy to adjust. If you weight a little more then the fork is not worth it as it will bottom out very easily unless you get a stiffer spring. If I'd had a bit more cash I would have bought the elite version as it has compression adjustment and so can be set so it will never bottom out.
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Submitted by
Bryan Mackin
a Cross Country Rider
from Cleveland, Ohio, Cuyahoga Date Reviewed: March 18, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Any @ Killington, Vermont
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1500.00
Purchased At:
B and K Bike Shop
Strengths:
Adjustability and Rebound dampening
Weaknesses:
Way to plush. I only way 155# and when I stand up to crank it the front end just dives and dives hard.
Similar Products Used:
Judy
Bike Setup:
2002 Giant XTC-NRS2 Stock with the new shimano 959 clipless pedals and a rock guard on the crank.
Bottom Line:
I just had the shock upgraded to the firm spring kit. I'm not so sure it was an upgrade?? You lose the adjustable compression in it so all you can adjust is the rebound and the travel. What's that about?? It still feels soft even at the 80mm of travel where the spring is compressed somewhat. The adjusters are made of plasic which worries me that they will brake with any little incident on the trail. Again, if you are a light weight and want a good fork for some light to mod. down hill or xc riding buy it, if not do not.Well, I must say that the technology is there but it needs to be refined.
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Submitted by
Chris
a Cross Country Rider
from Mountain View, CA Date Reviewed: March 14, 2002
Favorite Trail:
flat, paved trails that this fork won't bottom out on
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
LBS
Strengths:
It works great, until it bottoms out.
Weaknesses:
Bottoms out if I hit a curb too hard. Stickers havent peeled off yet, but I'm sure when they do Answer will sell me a replacement set for $25.
Similar Products Used:
Rosk Shox, etc.
Bike Setup:
Fisher Sugar3+, stock.
Bottom Line:
I've pretty much had it with this thing. Here's the deal, I weigh in at 185. With clothes (hopefully) and a pack on me thats about 195. Answer says this fork is shipped for riders weighing in at 155-170. That includes whatever their wearing so that translates to a rider weighing between 145-160. Answer claims that after "market research" thats what their average rider weighs. Bulls**t. Not in the real world. I'm trying not to be bitter but after dealing with 2 people at Answer and 1 at Fisher nobody will ship me a cheap ass set of $25 extra firm springs to fix this stupid fork. I don't want to be a hardasas about it, but I thinks it's ridiculous that a company that big wont make this small effort to satisfy a customer. Don't buy this fork. Never buy an Answer fork. I really hope they read this because based on the crappy customer service alone I won't ever buy another product that ships with a crappy Answer product. Feel the bitterness....
I think they need to revise the text on their website to say: "Our company’s original philosophy remains: For the first-time mountain biker, enthusiast or world-class racer(that weighs between 145 ansd 160 lbs)...we build the highest-performance, lightest weight mountain bike suspension forks in the world."
I'm gonna give it 2 chilis for value cuz it works well UNTIL it bottoms out.
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Submitted by
chris
a Cross Country Rider
from NY Date Reviewed: March 6, 2002
Favorite Trail:
secret
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
came wit bike
Strengths:
very plush not to heavy attractive srong good amout of travel e-z switch from 80 to 100 mm travel
Weaknesses:
it is a little to plush for me and i only weigh 145lb if you are more then 155-160 you should def get the air shock rather then this unless you change the spring in it that might work also that is what i m probly gunna do
Similar Products Used:
duke (duke is alot better) judy,mars,sid psylo race (best fork ever road i should have never sold it)
Bike Setup:
suger 4+ all XTR exept cranks and brakes
Bottom Line:
i do not rcomend these forks to heavier riders like more then 160lb unless u put new springs i do recomend this fork to beginers though
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Submitted by
Petar
a Weekend Warrior
from Zagreb, Croati Date Reviewed: February 28, 2002
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Good fork. Very plush. Preload, rebound 80/100mm adjustment. It takes a second to switch form 80 to 100mm and vice versa.
Weaknesses:
It's extra soft and there for only for very light riders (or buy new springs). The preload/rebond adjuster are made of plastic and located on the bottom of the fokrs "legs" - it looks like they could be easily broken.
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
Diamondback, hardtail (VertecPro)
Bottom Line:
If your are light then the fork has a GREAT value/price rate and it's a best-buy BUT if ypu weight more it'll be way to soft for you!!
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Submitted by
Bryant
a Weekend Warrior
from HP, NJ, USA Date Reviewed: February 15, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Beechwoods
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
Campmor
Strengths:
THe travel adjustments between 80mm and 100mm are good and easy to adjust. The fork is plush, and sometimes a bit to plush.
Weaknesses:
Manitou SX-RThe stock springs on the fork are way to soft. I weigh about 155 lbs. and i can bottom then just by bouncing on the fork. Sometimes they bottom off take off ramps. Other than that the fork works good so far.
Similar Products Used:
Manitou SX-R
Bike Setup:
K2 Flying Monkey
Bottom Line:
If your gonan get this fork, get stiffer springs. You need them unless you weigh practically nothing.
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Submitted by
Randy Hyde
a Cross Country Rider
from Ellenwood, Ga, USA Date Reviewed: January 31, 2002
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1.00
Purchased At:
BikeCenter, Stockbridge, Ga
Strengths:
Looks great on the Giant XTC NRS 2, red with black lettering.
Weaknesses:
Stock spring is too soft. I weigh 225 lbs riding weight! I ride hard and this fork scares me. Bottoms too easily.
Similar Products Used:
1999 Judy XC w/Eibach multi-spring aftermarket heavy set! This fork works great!
Bike Setup:
2002 Giant XTC NRS2, stock except for Time Thermoplastic type pedals.
Bottom Line:
I've ridden with this fork 3 times now and I'm scared to go fast! I can bottom the fork just by holding front brake in and pushing down on the bars. Had my shop order a stiffer spring from Manitou and they said they were out of stock and it would probably be about two weeks. I'm not happy. I'll give a follow-up review after I get the new spring, if I ever get it!
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Submitted by
dimart hedges
a Cross Country Rider
from Westwood CA Date Reviewed: December 29, 2001
Favorite Trail:
backbone
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
looks cool? it's stiff? uh?????
Weaknesses:
where do i start!
Similar Products Used:
judy SL, SID XC
Bike Setup:
stock Giant nrs2
Bottom Line:
1.The sring rates are for someone who weighs say about 50 lbs. 2.Does the rebound adjustment knob do anything? 3.The travel adjustment broke on my 2nd ride. 4.The P.O.S. failed half way through my 3rd ride while going about 30mph downhill. 5.Manitou will be having a nice talk with my lawyers!
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Submitted by
Tim Butler
a Cross Country Rider
from Canberra, Australia Date Reviewed: December 4, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Mt Stromlo
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
Onya Bike
Strengths:
Very plush, easy travel and rebound adjustment. Very good maintenance schedule.
Weaknesses:
Flexy, they have a very loud top out clunk (apparently normal?) and they make a loud sucking noise on rebound (even with the correct oil level in them). I have the disk break only model and the Mount (for Hays disks) is not square to the disk, so it is REALLY hard to adjust them so that the disk doesn't rub on the caliper.
Similar Products Used:
Rock Shox Judy XC, Edson, C-dale head shock
Bike Setup:
Stock NRS2 (2002)
Bottom Line:
The fork works well, the external adjusters are great, although they would be better with some clicks. The reversed break arch is very nice, but they are to noisy and don't work well with disks as they are to flexy and the mount makes adjustment difficult. Also the decals come off really easily. They would be good with rim breaks and are probably best suited to the weekend worrier, who wants a good reliable fork, that doesn't require a PhD to tune.
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Submitted by
JD Dombek
a
from carnation, WA, USA Date Reviewed: November 15, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Scokum Flats
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$325.00
Purchased At:
123bikes.com
Strengths:
Adjustability - you can adjust it call, the plushness of coil is good
Weaknesses:
It comes with weak springs - great if your less than 165lbs.
Similar Products Used:
Marzocci flylight 100 - converted to coil
Bike Setup:
Truth, XT, Hope Mini, life is good
Bottom Line:
I'm 185lbs and I bottom this fork out with little effort - ie. almost every time I try to preload for a large bunny hop. I called to see if I could buy the fork with the right spring stiffness for my weight - they said no, I had to by them aftermarket for $30. This fork is spec'd for light riders. Since my bike climbs well, in hind site, I'd buy the 100 - 120 mm version instead since I have no need for the 80 mm, although its super easy to convert (if you stop). Otherwise its a keeper, and I like it...a lot.
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Submitted by
David
a Weekend Warrior
from Montreal,Qc, Canada Date Reviewed: October 30, 2001
Favorite Trail:
where there is mud and jumps !
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Price Paid:
$270.00
Purchased At:
Primeau Velo
Strengths:
plush, good adjustability, no apparent flex, adjustable 80mm/100mm, very good suspension for the price
Weaknesses:
none seen in the store
Similar Products Used:
Marzocchi Z-3, Manitou Spyder R,
Bike Setup:
Specialized RockHopper 99, XT derailleur, Mavic X618 with LX hubs, manitou spyder R ( just broke... I'm probably going to change it for a Manitou Black Elite 80/100
Bottom Line:
Excellent suspension for the price... if you don't have enough money for the elite, buy this one... it's the same thing but no copression adjustment and a steel steerer. Good plush 100mm travel at a low price !
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Submitted by
terry
a Weekend Warrior
from lawrenceville, ga Date Reviewed: October 15, 2001
Favorite Trail:
chicopee
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$349.00
Purchased At:
cycle works
Strengths:
No lateral flex, has extremely good travel. Smooth as silk. First time I rode it I almost went over the handle bars it had so much travel compared to my other shock.
Weaknesses:
none so far... hopefully this one won't break as quick as my last manitou
Similar Products Used:
Rock Shox Sid SL, Manitou Spyder R
Bottom Line:
Very please with this shock so far. If anything changes I will post a follow-up. For the money I think this is going to be one of the best shocks of '02.
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