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Submitted by
Michael Langdon
a Cross Country Rider
from Orfordville, WI USA Date Reviewed: June 4, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | Outdoor Lab | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$20.00 | | Purchased At: | Friend | | Strengths: | Easy to maintain and adjust | | Weaknesses: | There is clearly a defect. Manitou had the same problem with the Mach 5 and there should be a CPSC recall on these. Mine broke on the bottom of the right arch. It may have been cheap but cheap is never a substitute for unsafe. Manitou knows they are unsafe and should do something about it. | | Similar Products Used: | Rock Shock Psylo and Mag 21 | | Bike Setup: | Gary Fisher supercalibre 1991 | | Bottom Line: | The bottom line is that it broke. It shouldn't. It should be recalled or at least everyone should be warned. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Al Osorio
a Cross Country Rider
from Zurich, Switzerland Date Reviewed: May 11, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Engadin, Switzerland | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$110.00 | | Purchased At: | unversalcycles.com | | Strengths: | Price is right. I broke two RShox Judys in two years and bought this cheapo out of frustration. It is on its third and last season and may bobb like a 10 year old buick, but did a great job along the way. I am 195 pounds. | | Weaknesses: | Like I said. After three years of use a chevy impala feels stiffer. A bit more travel would be nice. | | Similar Products Used: | 97 Judy is junk. Air canisters don't belong in my riding style. | | Bike Setup: | GT Zaskar / Tioga Fact. XC /SRAM 9.0 brakes / Bontrager rims / XT Shifters and Derail. | | Bottom Line: | Very unhappy with Rockshox and this manitou is bringing me back for more manitou. (I'll upscale this time and not be so cheap) Universalcycle.com is a great and often has year old or older stuff at BIG discounts. If you ride a lot and don't mind not having the perfect fork, but good reliablity simple graphics. Then this one to seriously look at even if you are on the higher end of the weight scale. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
bike thrasher
a Racer
from Connecticut Date Reviewed: November 2, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Silver Mountain | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$260.00 | | Purchased At: | Wheel Sport | | Strengths: | relatively cheap, I've seen them on Supergo for $70 | | Weaknesses: | that's just it, it's weak | | Similar Products Used: | Marzocchi Z-4 Bomber, uh, DuoTrack back when I was a shmack | | Bike Setup: | 97 Trek Y-5 | | Bottom Line: | I actually bought two of these things. I installed Englund Air Cartridges on the first one and it worked great until it cracked at the arch in a downhill race. I thought it was just me, so I bought another pair of the exact same thing. About a year later, I rode off a ledge and they cracked in the exact same place. Now I've got Z-4 Bombers and they flex but they haven't cracked in half yet. If they do, I will say something. I'd still say the Manitous are good shocks though, but they're coming out with new and better stuff now so they only get three flamin chilis | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Fast Eddie
a Cross Country Rider
from Hamilton Ma Date Reviewed: September 24, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | The Pipeline | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | Supergo | | Strengths: | Price,easy-matinance, looks | | Weaknesses: | cheap travel and loose stearing | | Similar Products Used: | Mach 5 + Judys | | Bike Setup: | Access, w/ESP+LX | | Bottom Line: | What you pay for is what you get with this fork. It is cheap, but works. The is nothing spectacular. If you do alot of harsh riding I would not recomend it (my brake arch snapped)but for you easygoing weekend warriors its a good bet. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Eric
a Weekend Warrior
from Miami, Fl Date Reviewed: August 9, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT!!! Weighed in under 3lbs I swear! Easy Maintenance, Good for light riders. Came on my Trek Y5 | | Weaknesses: | No Dampening, Seems flexy but i've never riden anything else | | Bottom Line: | Pretty kick a$$ no frills shock. Rather old though, but can probably be found real cheap. This shock cam ewith my bike and i was looking to replace it, but i cleaned it out and it's plush as hell now, and since i weighed it i'm in love with it, UNDER 3LBS!!! WOOHOO. I live in Miami with nothing too extreme around here so I'm good to go. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Don J
a Downhiller
from les gets; France Date Reviewed: August 3, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | poker | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Great Price-Black color-low maint. | | Weaknesses: | only 3" travel ? | | Similar Products Used: | Marzocchi Z4-Monster-T | | Bike Setup: | Hardtail Kona--2.3 tires--- | | Bottom Line: | Put Spring on right leg & is very plush now..Big caps are Preload adjusters using "c" clip-very reliable-- Maybe a little flex when bombing DH/ Very Good fork..Great $$ too | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Don Quioxte
a Weekend Warrior
from Middletown Date Reviewed: July 21, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | cheap and and the mechanics are simple | | Weaknesses: | cheap | | Bottom Line: | If you're heavy then don't even consider this fork. I'm 205 and I constantly bottom out, even with Answer's "firm" kit installed. And my lbs said that nobody else makes springs for this for so I'm stuck with Answer's - ahhhh, I'm topped out. Otherwise, it's fairly sturdy, simple to maintain, and would be good for very light folks that don't feel like spending lots of cake. 4 hot turds for value, 3 luke-warm turds for performance and support.
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Submitted by
Mike S
a Weekend Warrior
from Knoxville, TN Date Reviewed: July 10, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Tsali | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Good price$ 135 inc. tax. Black/beefy look. low maintanance | | Weaknesses: | no complaints | | Similar Products Used: | Indy xc--Marzocchi 4"--Monster-T--Kona rigid | | Bike Setup: | Kona Kaboom SS--this fork | | Bottom Line: | Screw all the high $$ air/oil leakers. I love low maint. no hassles stuff..It's 100% better than a rigid fork..I replaced one elastomer on each side with springs the same length from an Indy xc..that helps.light too..My steerer was too short,only 70% of my stem is on it..oh well? | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave
a Cross Country Rider
from westport, Vermont Date Reviewed: February 4, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Weaknesses: | for 1 it sucks, I mean really sucks I had an old indy s that was better than this fork in quality and in feel. This product is a definate problem, I got the Manitou Pro C on a barracuda, they come standard on a bike like that. Man i have had my share of problems, they are stiff and not smooth acting and they have a problem with wqater and mud, the mud and water some how gets into the shock and messes up the inside. They also make wierd wierd sounds like grinding, havent figured them out to date. | | Bottom Line: | BOTTOM LINE this is a very cheap shock which is poorly designed and Manitou knows it that is why it was discontinued.. I even ended up putting my old dependable Rock Socks indy S back on to the barracuda, which I am also looking to replace, for the frame is not what u would call reactive and makes wierd clicking sounds on the lower bottom triangle.NOW I RIDE SID'S THEY RULE | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andy Sarbu
a Downhiller
from Wheaton, IL Date Reviewed: January 9, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Plush at first. Good for the price. Good for beginers and those who don't know what ther hell they're doing. | | Weaknesses: | This crappy fork tops out over every little bump. Even when you do a bunny hop. Also the elastomer cartriges get stuck in the fork and you can't get them out. | | Bottom Line: | If your one of the people who baught this fork because of the good price, I know how you feel. This fork sucks and I wouldn't recomend it to anyone. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Spin Cycle
a Racer
from Moscow Date Reviewed: November 17, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Goes up and down when you go over bumps. Dependable. | | Weaknesses: | Flexey, overdampenend, flexey, gets hard in the cold, flexey, customer support at manitou. | | Similar Products Used: | '99 SID XC | | Bike Setup: | Trek 8000, Full XT, Kore, Icon. | | Bottom Line: | I loved this fork right up until I got rid of it for a SID XC. Then I learned what I was missing. Overall it worked out for me, but I thin that my SID feels a lot better. This is a pretty good budget fork, but dont pay more then 100 dollars for it. 5 stars for reliablility, -1 for manitous crappy support when I blew a dampening cartidge. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
tolli
a Weekend Warrior
from Germany Date Reviewed: October 14, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | price simplicity looks | | Weaknesses: | too much damping not very responsive | | Similar Products Used: | Judy DH 97 Manitou 3 RS Judy XL 98 | | Bike Setup: | RM Blizzard Mavic221-rims/XT-hubs/Conti DoubleeFighter | | Bottom Line: | This fork is ok. It isn't a top performer, but for my needs it performs well enough. I bought two Manitou Pro Cs in 1999. I paid 150$ (Spring 99) for the first one, the second one was 50$ cheaper (September 99). The one I bought in spring feels very similar to my 97 Judy DH fork (a little bit overdampened, and it could be more responsive) but the Judy was stiffer. The second one has a bit more stiction and doesn't perform as well as the first one. If you want a budget fork and have the chance to get one of Manitous Pro C (C means cartridge) for 100$ or less: Buy it.3 chilis (or whatever) for the performance, 5 for the price. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jonathan Bright
a Weekend Warrior
from St. Louis, MO Date Reviewed: September 5, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | Chubb trail | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | great feel, durable | | Weaknesses: | its no longer durable, the piece going over the tire(behind the brakes) broke today on a downhill jump | | Similar Products Used: | rock s(indy, jett, judy) manitou(spyder) | | Bike Setup: | it is on a Trek Y-5 | | Bottom Line: | I have riden this shock hard, very hard, taken it on lots of jumps, rocks, downhills and spills. It has stood the test of time till now. If some one knows how easily this is replaced let me know. I would like to keep this shock. I think this shock is great for the money, and even if it did brake today it has given me miles and miles of fun and thrills. I only give it 4 because it broke. RIP..... | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
A guy
a Weekend Warrior
from Arizona Date Reviewed: August 26, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Pretty cheap, nice design, good dampening for a light weight | | Weaknesses: | flex | | Similar Products Used: | ManitouProLT, IndyS&C, JudyXC | | Bike Setup: | Specialized | | Bottom Line: | Mine is actually a 98' Pro. This is a pretty good fork if you're a lightweight-medium like me. It has a fairly good amount of travel, but so far, it hasn't bottomed out. It isn't as heavy as I thought it would be too. The only problen, is that when you balance on your front tire, you can feel a little flex. Overall a good value at this price. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
der Herbst
a Cross-Country Rider
from Jacksonville and Champaign, IL Date Reviewed: August 10, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | the home trail: Kickapoo State Park | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | seems okay for cornering (to my semi-untrained senses), seems durable, looks good on my bike | | Weaknesses: | The stock elastomers are too squishy for a solid guy like me (6'1, 210 lbs), and I haven't had much time this summer to replace them or even to ride much. The thing tops out pretty easily, and just when I put my hands on the handlebars it compresses a good 25 or 30 percent of the way. | | Similar Products Used: | Rock Shox Judy C and XC K2 Smart Fork | | Bike Setup: | 1997 Specialized StumpJumper M2 (a cherry!) | | Bottom Line: | The only reason I am riding this fork is that it came stock on my out-of-the-box 1997 model Stumper, which I got for a GREAT deal at my LBS. I'm not overly satisfied with its performance as of now, but I need to fork out 15 bucks for the stiffer elastomers before I give a final opinion. I think I'll get an SX-R or something in the spring because my team gets a decent discount, but this one is going to have to hold me over through the fall college racing season. It has at least done well enough to get a vote of confidence from me. I'll update when I get the stiffer cushions. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
der Herbst AGAIN
a Cross-Country Rider
from Jacksonville/Champaign, IL Date Reviewed: August 10, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Bottom Line: | One thing I forgot: it's kind of a pain in the rear that it's got no damping. Also, any adjustments that you need to make involve messing with the internal stuff, which isn't too bad when you're sitting there in your apartment shining up the bike for a race, but if you've got different sections of trail you like to ride at different settings, you're going to be making your fellow riders sit around and wait 5 minutes while you screw with your forks. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Colum
a Cross-Country Rider
from New Paltz, NY Date Reviewed: June 23, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | Stewart Airport | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Pro C...Great fork. Has to be tuned correctly, and then no problems. Light (3.1 lbs with aluminum steerer) and stiff, with plenty of travel, and good damping with 5 wt. oil. | | Weaknesses: | had a problem with my damper cartridge. It kept breaking.. the c-clips kept coming out of place. This was happening because the preload was too loose. Make sure you check the travel with the string trick, so that you are not over-forcing the fork. | | Similar Products Used: | I have used a head shock, couple of judys, indys, and a rst 381, and none of them compaired to its ride | | Bike Setup: | Specialized Rockhopper. | | Bottom Line: | Great Fork for the price and simplicity. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
DODO
a Cross-Country Rider
from Singapore Date Reviewed: May 12, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | Bukit Timah Trail | | Duration Product Used: | more than 3 years | | Strengths: | Does not want to DIE even how hard I bash it | | Weaknesses: | STICTION, I have to bash it against the floor to move the sliders a day after a wet ride | | Similar Products Used: | Judy XC | | Bike Setup: | GT Alu Hardtail with XT drive train and LX brakes with Tektro Levers, Mavics 217 with XT hubs and WTB Primal Raptors in front and Specialized Ground Control behind | | Bottom Line: | I poured Mobil One into the stanchions in an effort to lube the bugger (Actually I wanted to kill the elastomers with synthethic oil) The coil springs are already broken, hence the clicking. Three whole years with this thing and u wonder why I don't upgrade? Because it doesn't want to die!! Please die!! I want a Judy 100. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
devan Thomas
a Weekend Warrior
from kelowna bc Date Reviewed: April 24, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | teddy-bear junction | | Duration Product Used: | less than 1 month | | Strengths: | good looks, performs good | | Weaknesses: | elastomers | | Similar Products Used: | rst 171 | | Bottom Line: | good fork. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tom Aten
a Cross-Country Rider
from Rochester NY Date Reviewed: April 6, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | Mendon ponds Park | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | This is a nice fork, it rides really nicely and is easy to work with. I have rode on it hard for 3 months and haven't seen anything go wrong. | | Weaknesses: | It is MCU and coil spring. The mcu can get a little sticky in the winter, but rides SWEET in the summer. | | Similar Products Used: | Rock Shox quadra 5Rock Shox Judy T2 | | Bike Setup: | i have a specialized stumpjumper frame. | | Bottom Line: | this is a fork that is great for XC riding. It rides nicely for light riders and feels great. all around it is a good buy for a beginner, or a light rider. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
brian
a Cross-Country Rider
from fremont Date Reviewed: April 1, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | mission peak | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | stiff, looks good, light | | Weaknesses: | no rebound damping | | Similar Products Used: | mag 21 | | Bike Setup: | manitou pro lt | | Bottom Line: | this fork came stock on my specialized fsr, it worked fine for a couple of months. After a while the rebound started to get even faster, with a harsh clunking top out. after tearing the fork down for a routine lubing and cleaning I dicovered that the bottom out and top out bushings were toasted. I phoned answer products and they instructed me to send the parts to the shop where I puchased the bike. One week later I had a Pro long travel re-work kit, which included two shorter elastomers and longer better quality top out bumpers. I rode the re-worked forks hard today , they no longer have 80mm of travel, it's a little over 70. Hoever the rebound seems to be a little slower but best of all no more harsh top out. very easy to install. 70mm of quality travel is better than 80mm of lousy travel. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Travis Kelley
a Cross-Country Rider
from Auburn, CA Date Reviewed: March 17, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | Clementine Loop | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Fork handles large bumps rather well without bottoming out. Great bargain. | | Weaknesses: | Kind of mushy with the stock kit, heavy, requires frequent lubing, | | Bike Setup: | GT backwoods with xt components | | Bottom Line: | This was a great fork for a beginner. It isn't insanely heavy and it soaks up large bumps without bottoming out. Very mushy with stock springs and elastomers, but also very sturdy. Needs to be lubed frequently, even though I don't. For a first fork, don't look at anything else. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
NoHands
a weekend warrior
from Montréal Date Reviewed: March 13, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
I got the Manitou Pro along with my Specialized FSR and I must say although it's not the best fork out there, for the price it's not bad. So the fork itself consists of coil springs and elastomers with no damping save friction, which if properly maintained, has very little. So I guess I'll start with the good parts. First off, like most Manitou forks, this is a very stiff fork (not in terms of suspension). I've tried some other forks in the past ('96 Judy, RST), and I'm pretty satisfied with the rigidity. It didn't wander during long high speed turns and it didn't hesitiate in twisty singletrack. Another pro is that it's pretty sensitive to small bumps and performs fine on medium bumps. But this then brings us on to the bad points. Since this fork has no sophisticated form of damping it has a tendency to violently top out when you come off medium to large bumps at speed. While this isn't dangerous or detrimenttal to your performance it it a little discomforting to hear a loud clunk every now and then. Also the lack of damping causes it to bob during climbs if you don't have a smooth pedal stroke. The thing is though with proper technique and a little body english these problems are not really that annoying. So all things said and done this fork, although not the best, is a worthwhile purchase if you're looking for a buget fork. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Trigger
a cross-country rider
from Boston, MA Date Reviewed: March 3, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
This in an update for my previous post. I sent my broken 1997 Pro C fork in to Manitou, and they told my LBS that they would repair the fork, and rebuild it. The immediate service by Manitou was great. I got a totally repaired fork within a month and a half with a new, stronger arch. They put an arch from the Manitou SX 1998 and it feels a lot stiffer. Thanks Manitou. Because of the great customer service, I'm going to consider a Manitou the next time I spend $500 on a fork. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
al
a cross-country rider
from Tx Date Reviewed: February 22, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
The Manitou Pro came stock on my Barracuda, and overall, it's the best elastomer fork I've ridden. It's stiff, light, reliable, has lots of travel, and is a piece of cake to work on. the only problem I ever had with it was when I made some really deep (3 ft) stream crossings and it got filled up with water quit working. Yeah, it tops out, but what do you want for $100? It's much better than any Indy.
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Submitted by
Adam T
a weekend warrior
from N.Canton OH Date Reviewed: February 5, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
The Mantiou Pro LT 98 fork would be a good fork if the person using weighed UNDER 140 pounds. I bought Mine because it was cheap, I regret it every time I ride. I weigh 170, and the fork tops out VERY bad over every little bump. A word of advice, really do some research if buying someting on sale. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Trigger
a cross-country rider
from Boston, MA Date Reviewed: January 10, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
I have the Pro C '97 model. It's a dead feeling fork that does it's job fairly. I cracked my fork at the junction of the arch-stanchion tube junction as well. When this fork worked, there was a mild degree of flex. I got what you payed for in terms of this budget fork. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Craig Alexander
a weekend warrior
from PEI, Canada Date Reviewed: December 15, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
This fork came standard on my '97 Fisher X1. I really don't like the shock all that much. I'm 210 pounds and I still find it stiff at times. It is however very rigid. I have lubed and regreased this fork quite often and it still is not smooth throughout its travel. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
R.LaPlante
a cross-country rider
from Windsor,Ontario,Canada Date Reviewed: December 15, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
While riding a reasonably flat single track, my son's Manitou Pro snapped at the brake arch/stanchion tube juncture.All parties involved ( bike shop,distributor and Manitou) agreed this accident was caused by a design/manufacturing error and would be repaired/replaced under the terms of the warranty.Well that was over 6 months ago,and no matter what my bike shop does/requests the only reply we get isthe parts are on back order . In light of this total disregard by a manufacturer for their responsibility to honor their warranty I have disposed of the 3 Manitou shocks I had and replaced them with 2 Marzocchi's and a Rock Shock.I frankly have written this warranty repair/replacement off as an example of a warranty that has less value than the paper it is written on. Note, if you buya Manitou don't expect much in the way of assistance should ill befall you,after all they already have your money.Rating one chilli too many. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
tom thumb
a weekend warrior
from Delta B.C. Date Reviewed: December 14, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have had my pro for over a year now. It came standard on my stump jumper. I find that it is to much like a pogo stick even though I have adjusted it a million times. One good thing that I like about the fork is that it has a really stiff brace. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jeff Coneys
a cross-country rider
from Oakland, NJ Date Reviewed: December 7, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I hate this piece of ____. There has to be a way of making it stop slamming up to the top after every bump. It doesn't come close to my old Mag 21! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Joe Karp
a weekend warrior
from Emeryville, CA Date Reviewed: November 19, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
This fork came with my '97 Stumpjumper, black with red elastomers. I like the fork, easy to work on, but didn't like the feel of the standard spring/elastomers. Felt spongy and all, but didn't want to buy a higher-end fork as my next bike will be full-suspension. Had a friend put Hevn Racing Struts in his and tried them in mine, BIG difference, now rides like a much more expensive fork, is smooth over the bumps. Highly recommended upgrade, I give the fork 3 chilis, with the upgrade, 4. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
jon
a weekend warrior
from st helens, england Date Reviewed: November 14, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
manitou 97 pro's were the first decent forks I rode. With a cost in the U.K. of about 320 dollars thess are were actually budjet forks! I've used them for over two years, and found them excellent, but for one thing. The massive fork brace is a mud magnet. Easy to service, cheap, and they look a helluva lot more expensive, they have only just been replaced by a pair of judy sl's | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Adam
a cross-country rider
from Cincinnati Date Reviewed: October 16, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I got the Pro C with my KHS Descent and I loved until rode the 97 SX the Pro C which is a great fork for $90-$269 but if you ride hard or ride alot I'd get the SX or up it's just the fact that they use elastomers which give the fork a dead feal all in all i give it 3 chilis | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tyler
a
from weekend warrior Date Reviewed: October 1, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have the Pro C on my bike. It is a great shock and I like it a lot. I would give it five star but it top out evey now and then. I also broke my dimping shaft. Overall it is a great shock. I would buy the shock if I were you because it is realy realy cheap. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tim Guarente
a weekend warrior
from Laconia, NH Date Reviewed: September 27, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I bought this fork because it was $90 in a catalog. My old RST 381L had like a pound of dust in it when i dismantled it. I I just installed it and went riding and loved it. Can't complain. There was a clicking noise but i traced that to a small bolt and put a piece of tape over it to silence it. problem solved. Overall, 5 little burning thingies | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Martin
a racer
from Canada Date Reviewed: September 20, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I got a Manitou pro with my Fisher Montare, its was good at first but after 6 month's its starded to do clicking sound and now I want a new fork. Iis not Manitou the probles, Manitou rock's, i'm getting a Manitou SX R (98), now that's a nice fork!!! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Sy Coman
a cross-country rider
from Silverdale, WA Date Reviewed: September 5, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I got this fork for $99!! saved about $200! I got a Manitou Pro Lt This about comparison to a Judy T2, but I have not tried one. But now it is an indy (Jett) where it belongs!! This fork is so sweet, 80 mm of travel, preload adjusters actuall work, aborbs almost anything you throw at it. Only thing better is oil/air damped if you have the money. Very plush, no flex, easily mantained, and it looks so &*$%##! good!! Cannot be beat for the money. I did some dh with this fork and it is really active and bottomless!! BUY IT!!! 5 flaming things for the Manitou pro lt | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Joel Truckenbrod
a cross-country rider
from Anoka, Minnesota, USA Date Reviewed: August 22, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
The Manitou pro (not pro C), came stock on my 1997 joshua x1. At first the fork proved to be a good bump absorber, it was smooth and quiet...that has all changed! Now my pro clunks constantly and tortures me by not having enough travel, flexing like crazy (I lose stearing presision over the rough!), and constanly clunking. It also is jumpy.don't buy this shock! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Justin Northcraft
a cross-country rider
from Arizona Date Reviewed: August 20, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I think it sucks. I bought a Diamondback in february the fork broke in may when i crashed. they said that they would FIX it but i still havent goten it back yet. The bike shop sent it for me and their dealing with it. but now the bike shop is closed!!! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jason
a cross-country rider
from Newton, MA Date Reviewed: August 7, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
My Pro came with my '97 Stumpjumper. I've had it for about 5 months. This was my first venture into the moutaining biking world, and I didn't know anytihng. of I guess of for my first suspension fork it was okay. In it are the pink elastomer and where I only weigh a hundred thirty pounds I think I need the blue elastomer. It only absorbs the big bumps not the small ones, and it makes an annoying air sound whenever it actually does compress. I have never bottomed out, and have not found the ride to be very plush. For for 99 I hope to upgrade my fork to a Marzocchi, Judy or something else. Untill then I don't want to spend much money, should I just buy the softer elastomer? Also what should I do for regular maintance? The fork didn't come with a manual, and this is my first fork, I have not a clue what to do, someone please help me. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Lucas R PITTS
a downhiller
from Lawrence, KS Date Reviewed: August 3, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have completely blown at least THREE sid's this year, and I've had enough of this lite weight garbage. I did however purchace a 97 pro-c for less than one hundred dollars. After removing the elastomers, the spirings, the oil and the cartridge, and making a few adjustments to the inner legs with my hacksaw' I have the fork down to 2.2 lbs.eat that rock shox!!!eat it! Lucas | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ed A.
a weekend warrior
from Washington, D.C. Date Reviewed: August 3, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I just picked up the 97 Mach 5 Pro-C for $90 from Frankford Bikes. For the money, it's worth adding to just about any non-suspension fork mountain bike. I added it to my '93 Giant Iguana and it makes an incredible difference. As many others have noted below, the standard elastomers are very stiff for people under 175 lbs. It comes with a stack of red - medium stiffness, and a shorter stack of blue - soft, elastomers. I've tried a friend's bike with the same fork that replaced all the red elastomers with blue and it is a big improvement - I'm ordering the soft kit. It's worth the $10 for an additional inch of travel. As a bonus, the fork has a cool paint/decal scheme. Enjoy. | Overall Rating: |
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Al
a
from MA Date Reviewed: July 26, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
this fork came with my 97 Fisher Montare. I thought it wasn't a bad fork at first, a little springy though. After not even a month of riding I got a annoying clicking sound, which I thought was from my headset. That went away for a while and just recently(6 months later) I was told I needed new bushings and probably an overhall. I would recommend this fork to anyone who likes to have fun on their bike, not even for $100 | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Kyle
a weekend warrior
from SC Date Reviewed: July 10, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Bought this shock about a month ago for less than $100. I weigh about 200lbs, and the shock sagged quite a bit when I got on the bike. I looked at several bike shops for the firm ride kit, but none were availiable. I sent an email to Mantitou telling them of my problem, and they sent a firm ride kit 2nd day air for free! The shock rides fine now. It handles small bumps well, large bumps great, and doesn't bob when I pedal. I haven't noticed any flex, and the weight is reasonable. It's a great value.Rating: 4 for the fork, 10 for customer service. | Overall Rating: |
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Mike
a racer
from Carlisle, PA Date Reviewed: July 2, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
My 97 Diamondback Zetec 4.1 came with a Pro-C that had a combo of red and blue elastomers. After adjusting everything, I concluded that the shock had 3 settings, stiffer, stiffest, and rigid. Broke those silly plastic caps numerous times. The bike shop I ride out of has a box of fork parts, and I made the following mods. Marzocchi springs (medium), 5 weight oil, and added half a bushing (slice a new one in half) to the rebound damper to keep it from topping out. The fork is now very fast and responsive, but I gotta take the thing apart frequently (every other ride) 'cause it loses oil so fast, even after rebuilding the oil cartridge. It also collects dirt, water and grime better than a shop vac. Fork is very flexy but durable, and if anyone knows where to go to get quality replacement caps, please let me know. Stock fork gets a rating of 1...Might as well ride rigid. After mods, I'll give it a 3 due to the constant maintenance. If you don't ride as often you'll have better luck. | Overall Rating: |
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Stephen
a weekend warrior
from Boston Date Reviewed: July 1, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
My Pro (not pro C) came with my 97 stumpjumper. After about 7 months the it got very stiff. At first I thought it was something with the elastomers but it wasn't. A couple of days ago I rebuilt it and found that one of the soft black rubber bumpers within the stanchions had totally disinigrated. The schredded mess aparently made its way into the lower legs and made the bushings very sticky. I had to throughly clean this mess out. Now the fork feels very plush and has more travel b/c I removed the remaining pieces of the bumpers. Hopefully a similar breakdown won't occur again. For a rating I would give 3 stars. It is cheap and now very functional and not that heavy. Don't waste 700 on a SID! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
WrasseMan
a cross-country rider
from MA Date Reviewed: June 18, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
This shock requires frequent maintenance to keep it performing at its optimum. Keep it well oiled. I use judy butter on the bushings. With it tuned up, it works like a dream. In wet conditions or muddy conditions, water and grim accumulates in the fork, increasing friction and as a result, the performance decreases significantly. Therefore, I emphasize that I've had to clean and lube my fork often, almost after every ride, in these kinds of conditions. Otherwise, this is a good performing fork and a great value. I agree with the others that have said this fork has a plush ride. I achieved a nice ride by experimenting with different elastomer combinations. This is a good fork and for the money, you can't beat it's value! 5 Chilis! | Overall Rating: |
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Mike
a racer
from AUSTIN, TEXAS Date Reviewed: June 18, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I acquired the 97 Pro C after my 97 Judy SL brake bridge broke after dropping in on a creek. Economics forced me into low dollar, and I'm glad it did. I work in a bike shop and know what a good fork must go through, and this Pro C has held up every bit as good as my Judy SL did. I'm a 190 lb Sport class racer and after a little playing with it this Pro C meets every need. I started by removing the bottom MCU stack on the left side and installed a damper in the bottom of the left leg just like the right side is. But be sure to put the lightest weight oil in it you can find. I replaced the MCU stacks as well, but only you can determine if the stock ones aren't right for you. Anyway, this is a good fork. Forget about the fact that it doesn't weigh 2 lbs and go ride the hell out of it! It can take it! Ride On! | Overall Rating: |
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Highlander
a weekend warrior
from USA Date Reviewed: June 11, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
This is a very good fork for the money. Inexpensive and very low maintenance. I can get any fork I want, but for my riding style, I wouldn't trade it for anything. Its plush, very plush. It will work for any kind of rider. If you dont have the money to spend on Zokes or SIDs or XVerts (or even if you do) get it and you wont be disappointed. You can get it for around $100 bucks now. Get it while you can. I give five flaming chilis plus a bowl of salsa and nachos!!!! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
zork
a cross-country rider
from richmond Date Reviewed: June 11, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I just bought a Pro-C for $90. For the money, it is great, you can really tweak it to your liking. I'm running soft springs and blue MCU's. its really soft. the cartridge controls rebound. it is perfect right now. i don't think i want lighter oil for my 120lb butt. its hard to get a soft and smooth compression on the initial part of the stroke. the last part of the compression feels too soft and i can feel it bottom out. i think that i need to spend more time tweaking it. keep it lubed up. the fork is really stiff. | Overall Rating: |
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ADRIAN SMITH
a racer
from Sydney, Australia Date Reviewed: May 22, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I find that this fork is smoth and responsive to my sort of riding. I didn't buy this fork seperately but it came on my '97 Trek Y5. I use my bike for downhill and cross-country racing. This fork works well for both types of racing especially downhill. It is set up pretty soft and that's how I like it. A bit of Judy Butter inside it and it's a great fork. | Overall Rating: |
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Luke
a cross-country rider
from US Date Reviewed: May 21, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I used to have a Rock Shocks older quadra on a Raleigh M-80, i must say that was an improvement to no shock, but until I got this I realy didn't know what a shock is. It made me invredibly faster on some seriously bumpy downhils and still I felt like I'm in control. It rebounds a little slow on bunny hopps, but its very stiff and fun to ride. Definately worth the money, expecialy that I payed 190 dollars for them. | Overall Rating: |
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C.L.
a weekend warrior
from HydePark, Utah Date Reviewed: May 10, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
The first thing you need to do when you get these is take them apart and make sure there is enough grease on the slidders and bushings. Otherwise this fork is good. It doesn't have much flex. It is light weight. But the mcu s were hard so I got speed springs. If you can get it for under $200 it's worth the money. | Overall Rating: |
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Paul Runcy
a cross-country rider
from Austix, TX USA Date Reviewed: May 4, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I own two of these, one that came on my Specialized M2 Stumpjumper, and the other which I bought for my fiancee's bike that I built. The one I purchased only cost $130.00! I have the pink elastomers in mine with the preload clips at mid range and it is plenty plush enought, without bottoming out on the 1' to 2' steps or drop offs that are so common in the Texas hill country. (By the way, I ride agressivly and weigh 195lbs at 6'4.) My fiancee weights less than 110 lbs. so she has the blue elastomers with the clips at the softest setting and it performs well. It is plenty stiff enough, basically maintenance-free, and inexpensive. A fine cross country shock! Five chili's over all because although it isn't the best, it is the best for the $$$$$! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
RX
a weekend warrior
from PA Date Reviewed: April 20, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Just bought the Pro-C, my first suspension fork. I'm a fairly large rider at 200#. By just putting my weight on the bike, the shock sinks 20-30% but when riding the shock compresses only on the big stuff. It has not yet bottomed - out. I have ridden the shock only a few times and plan to break it in further before modification. Any suggestions for decreasing the amount of sink while softening the ride? | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris
a weekend warrior
from Nova Scotia, Canada Date Reviewed: March 18, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
First let me say that this was my first suspension fork, so I have no basis for compatrison. I thought the fork worked great it was flex free and absorbe bumsp really well. My only problem is that after 5 months it broke. I was hopping a small stream @ 2.5-3 feet wide, in February but my back wheel hit the edge of the ice and I came to an immediate stop slumping over the handle bars. the reason for this was cracks in the crown where the screws hold the sliders. When the crown cracked around the screws, it allowed the sliders to fall out the crown and break the top caps. The sliders fell out with my weight on the handle bars the sliders bent and probably twisted which would break the brace. I weigh 150lbs and am a light rider on the bike we just finished riding @3 hours and wasn't more than a foot off the ground. I walked away without a scratch or any pain. For a small guy like me to do that kind of damage I should of been hurt, but I think the product was shoddy. I will not willingly buy one of their forks again. Especially since they don't apparently honor their own warranties.They offered me a 97 SX for $200us. I suppose they werer going for that price to whole salers so I got one at cost. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Luis Colon Jr.
a weekend warrior
from Katy, Texas Date Reviewed: March 12, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Bought a Pro-C about a month ago for $130. This is my first suspension fork and I am very pleased with it. It is fairly easy to adjust and it handles bumps great. My only complaint is that on my second ride, the right adjuster cap broke off the rest of the adjuster assembly. The adjuster assy. is still on and tight but I can't take it out to adjust the preload. Does any body know if there is an aftermarket part to replace these plastic ones? Overall a great fork for the money!!!5 CHILIES!!! | Overall Rating: |
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Jay
a racer
from RI Date Reviewed: March 7, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I've had this fork for a while and I must say it stinks I am going to get rid of it. Manitou is not bad just this fork. I'm glad they did away with it for 98. Never buy this fork. The only reason I have it is because it came with my bike. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
patrick_legault
a weekend warrior
from montreal,canada Date Reviewed: March 6, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I've tried the JUDY XL of one of my friend bike before buying mine and when i tried this fork i really enjoy it. It's sure that the fork need about 10 to 20 ride before it is really smooth and if you put a little grease on the plastic spacers between all the elastomer the fork will work better. | Overall Rating: |
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Michael Ragan
a weekend warrior
from Bugtussell La Date Reviewed: March 2, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
My specalized m2 came with manitou pro 97 black shocks , the shocks were like rigid , might as well not even had any . I only weigh 145 lbs so that didnt help matters , My bike is breand new took it back for the 30 day check ,explained the problem with the stiff shocks being stiff as a board , they put in blue elastomers WOW its like a different bike , much better ride and the shocks actually move up and down . Happy camper | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jamie Carneal
a weekend warrior
from Appalachian Mtns Date Reviewed: February 18, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
In response to KEVAN, you can order springs through Mcmaster-Carr of various stiffnesses, lengths and diameters.. I've also been thinking about this type of upgrade, but i think the fork needs rebound damping. It handles as well as my 96 Judy XC, but it is evident that the damping needs to be higher. Damping just makes the return of the fork ( when it unloads) much more controlled, i..e. minimizing wheel acceleration. | Overall Rating: |
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David DePiano
a cross-country rider
from Hamilton, NJ Date Reviewed: February 7, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have a Manitou Pro-C on my Giant Yukon. I love this fork. However, I would like to upgrade it, or clean it. I need some ideas on how to make it as painless as possible. I do however love the performance of this fork. It soaks up the bumps like some more expensive forks that I have tried. Overall, for the money, this fork beats them all! Please e-mail me with any suggestions on how to upgrade or to clean my fork. I have had it for about 1 year now. Thanks! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
MOTAN
a cross-country rider
from Singapore Date Reviewed: January 27, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
A value for money fork, especially since I got it at closing down sale at a bike shop. Seems alittle to active, but smoothes out the rough stuff really well. I ride it on my Giant atx 840, and the weight of the fork agrees with me. Pity that we have no up-grade kits in Singapore. Any suggestion on a easy way to upgrade the fork while keeping the weight down? A good fork, but not the best! | Overall Rating: |
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Lucas Jimenez Barriga
a weekend warrior
from Zaragoza, Spain Date Reviewed: January 7, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Buena horquilla aunque no bajen los 63 mm de recorrido. Me la compre hace mas de 6 meses y todavía no me ha dado ningun problema. Funciona correctamente. El ajuste de la horquilla es algo costoso y lento, ya que hay que abrir el tapon superior de la botella. Respecto al comportamiento muy correcta con los baches grandes y con los pequeños.
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Tim Morgan
a weekend warrior
from Escondido, California Date Reviewed: November 30, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I am looking for my first suspension fork and am planning to spend around $150-$175. I am deciding between the Rocks Shox Mag 21 and the Manitou Pro C. The Mag 21 is $120 and the Pro C is $170. If anyone knows anything about either, please respond. | Overall Rating: |
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KEVAN
a cross-country rider
from CALIF Date Reviewed: November 22, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
You guys have to promise not to laugh at me, but I upgraded my shock for $4 and it works great! Like many others, my shock came stock on the Manta comp but I was disatisfied with the stock elastomers, having heard that all spring systems are the way to go. When I was shopping in Pep Boys automotive I found a set of steel springs (15/16 X 9 -3/4 PN 340603.1) that looked like they might fit on the inside for $2 each. Took 'em home, cut to same length as existing stack using a cut off wheel, and slid them in, replacing the entire stack (different lengths for each side). On the right (longer side) greased and slid inside the spring 2 soft (blue) and one hard (red) elastomer to give a progressive compression type effect. Lubed the slider with Tri-flow, greased the springs, and tested them. Worked great with a noticable improvement. Tested them for travel using the standard cable tie on the fork trick and found about 2 peak travel and my most frequency downhill. Pure luck that a random set of springs should match my weight (165) and riding style so well. Don't try this unless you understand how shocks work and are something of a mechanic but it was cheap and worked well! I'm an aerospace engineer and ride about 5 days a week so this isn't just BS. You can get the same or better benefits by using spring kits specifically made for this but expect to pay about $40-$70. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John Dilzell
a weekend warrior
from Skillman, NJ Date Reviewed: November 17, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I also got this fork with my Klein Mantra Comp. It's a great bike, but i am not satisfied with this entry level fork. If anyone knows of any upgrades for the Manitou Pro-C fork let me know. Or also if there is a long travel shock out there (over 80mm) that looks great on a big yellow Klein? I was thinking of getting the Judy SL eventually, because now i am gradually converting to KORE Elite and Shimano XTR components (Stem, Seatpost, Torsion riser bar, and also the XTR derriaullers to replace those STX. I'ver heard mixed reviews on the Judy SL, so if you have any info that could help in my position, it would be helpful. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Trigger
a cross-country rider
from Boston, MA Date Reviewed: November 14, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I have the Pro-C. The suspension excells over washboard type ground and small bumps. It provides decent control when turning and softens large hits moderately well. I am very happy with these shock. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jesse
a cross-country rider
from Atlanta Date Reviewed: November 11, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
this fork is good, but it could be better. if anyone has some ideas about how i could make it more plush (i.e. would speed springs be a good idea?) E- mail me. 5 chiles, even though it is not a marsocci atom bomb, it doesent carry the price either. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Fish
a weekend warrior
from Boston, MA Date Reviewed: November 6, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
A very nice performing shock. A great deal for the price! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave
a
from weekend warrior Date Reviewed: November 4, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Bought a set of the Manitou Pro-C for my wife's bike. They were down to $130. Great shock. The only difference between the Pro and the Pro-C is that the C has a cartridge for rebound damping. Simple rugged design. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jesse Trewin
a racer
from Ontario Date Reviewed: November 1, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
When I was flying down the hill there was a rock. I jumped the rock and my shocks broke. So I went and bought a pair of Manitou Pro 97's and went for alittle racen. The shox worked perfect. I came in 2nd place out of 176 kids ages 11-19. I am only 13 too. I love these shox. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Casey
a cross-country rider
from Ft. Lauderdale, Fl Date Reviewed: October 29, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
This fork also came on my KLEIN MANTRA COMP like UNCLE KEVIN, and I don't know that much about forks, but I do know my brother blew the cartridge in his Rock Shox JUDY SL. I've had my fork for 1 month now, and it was leaking oil on the cartridge side out the top around the elastomers. I took it to my local bike shop, and we learned how to take it apart together. The mechanic was only trained on Rock Shox, because they've never had an Answer fork develop a problem.The oil that comes in the fork must be 10 weight or heavier, cause we filled it back up with 5wt oil, and it totally changed it's damping(the rate at which it compresses and rebounds). I played with it yesterday putting the metal clip it the top groove to preload the elastomer(unscrew the black plastic cap on the right and left sides of your fork legs on the top-these caps hold your elastomers in)and riding,but the fork didn't compress at all. It just bounced over everything. Today I put the clip in the middle position and rode, and it worked great. I also tried it in the second from the bottom, but when I hit big tree roots, it bottomed out. I wish this fork had adjustable rebound and compression, but even in it's present state it seems to work good.Try playing with the clips that change the preload for the elastomers, you'll notice that this does change the rebound and compression somewhat. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Kevin Collier
a weekend warrior
from Puyallup, WA Date Reviewed: October 23, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I put one on these great forks on my GT aluminum frame MTB and love what I have now - a smooth handling, plush riding bike, For the money you jsut can't beat this fork. | Overall Rating: |
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Greg Schneider
a cross-country rider
from College Place, WA Date Reviewed: October 18, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Over all I was not that impressed with the fork but due to its low price, superior stiffness and overall ok ride I would give it a 4. If anyone who loves their fork could give me tips on how to maximize my travel I would appreciate it. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John D.
a weekend warrior
from MD Date Reviewed: October 14, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Upgraded my Trek with the Pro-C. One of the least expensive cartridge forks around. Nice suspension action without upsetting steering precision. Preload and damping are not externally adjustable, but it is still a great buy. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
S Kisters
a
from Holland Date Reviewed: October 8, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
The fork from manitou is great I have the manitou pro c and i give it the full 5 stars | Overall Rating: |
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Massimo Gherardi
a cross-country rider
from bologna - italia Date Reviewed: October 3, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
it is simple, efficient, inflexible, not heavy and cheap. Is all. | Overall Rating: |
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massimo gherardi
a cross-country rider
from bologna - italia Date Reviewed: October 3, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
e' semplice, realmente efficace, rigida e non troppo pesante. Chiaro? | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Uncle Kevin
a cross-country rider
from Sayrevillle NJ USA Date Reviewed: October 2, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
This fork came with my Klein Mantra Comp.Exellent fork for the money.Performance has it for $225.It's definately worth the money.It has about 2 1/2 inches of travel (70mm) and is easily adjusted.Not quite as plush as a Judy,and only time will tell how sturdy it is.I asked another guy I met on the trail why he had one on his Gary Fisher and he said,I work in a bike shop and I replace Judy cartridges all the time.This is just simpler and has a bit more travel.I love it. I'm going to give it five chiles because of price ease of set up,and the cool black color it comes in. | Overall Rating: |
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