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Submitted by
spec4life
a Cross Country Rider
from North Carolina
Date Reviewed: July 8, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Dark mountain | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | cook's | | Strengths: | looks good, dampens chain slap sound, stays in place, pretty much everything it suppose to do | | Weaknesses: | none so far | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | 08 hardrock sport | | Bottom Line: | Pretty much just get the velcro and not the stick on lizard skin. This think fits tight and really dampens the noise. It definently a good option in order to keep your bike looking new. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
lee Stephenson
a Cross Country Rider
from newcastle
Date Reviewed: July 5, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | wearside | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | I dunno, it won't stick on the bike so I can't test it | | Weaknesses: | It won't stick on the bike at all, it doesn't like to bend | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | mountain bike | | Bottom Line: | when trying to stick this to my bike I realised that it would have trouble staying round the tube long enough for the adhesive to work, but fear not, I thought. I can tie it with cable ties, leave it for a few days and that would be that. So, this is what I did. and lo, and behold! IT DIDN'T WORK! the adhesive just isn't strong enough to hold this badly designed product curved round the tube. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Zach
a Weekend Warrior
from thousand oaks,ca
Date Reviewed: October 11, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | lizardskins.com | | Strengths: | Looks cool | | Weaknesses: | If you use it for bmx street they will protect a few major frame scapes from grinds but for bmx i would recommend something rumber like spleacizaed but they are great if you use them for mtb | | Bike Setup: | mirraco fivestar, toatally different except for frame | | Bottom Line: | nice prduct order from lizard skins, best custermer service, they m essed my order then sent me a free tee and like 20 of there keychains for me and my friends quality prducts | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
aron
a Downhiller
from perth
Date Reviewed: July 14, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$9.00 | | Purchased At: | bike force souther river(in aust) | | Strengths: | protectz ur frame from chain dents/scratches | | Weaknesses: | is a bit of a pain to put on as it needs to be tight | | Bike Setup: | giant stp2 | | Bottom Line: | its a gd thing to get 4 ay bike as it protects the frame | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
aron
a Downhiller
from perth
Date Reviewed: July 14, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$9.00 | | Purchased At: | bike force souther river(in aust) | | Strengths: | protectz ur frame from chain dents/scratches | | Weaknesses: | is a bit of a pain to put on as it needs to be tight | | Bike Setup: | giant stp2 | | Bottom Line: | its a gd thing to get 4 ay bike as it protects the | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Alex
a Cross Country Rider
from LA
Date Reviewed: April 5, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | Carbon Canyon | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | Price Point | | Strengths: | Does what it's supposed to do / doesn't move / looks all right | | Weaknesses: | None | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | Haro XLS R5 | | Bottom Line: | Best chainguard in the market. Do not buy the carbon fiber version which does NOT glue to your frame. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Sean
a Cross Country Rider
from Houston, TX
Date Reviewed: March 17, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | Emma Long (Austin, Tx) | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Purchased At: | REI | | Strengths: | Looks good? Of course that's when the label faces outwards, which isn't often | | Weaknesses: | are you kidding... | | Similar Products Used: | Gebali Chain Away | | Bike Setup: | Cannondale F2000 Sobe Team edition, xtr v-brakes and drive train (xt-cranks), Kore Elite stem, Thomson Elite seatpost, yadda yadda yadda | | Bottom Line: | Ok, so after being severely unsatisfied with this product, I stumbled across Zach's post below regarding Gebali's product. After doing some research on their site and getting some excellent feedback from their customer service, I ordered their product, and what a difference! For only a dollar or two more, the difference is night and day. As Zach stated, they seem to be pretty new, but I wouldn't be surprised if they make it big. The kevlar top makes a world of difference, I haven't used it for long, but it's easy to tell it will way outlast the alternative. Hopefully soon mtbr.com will add them to the list so I add this review there. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
dave
a Weekend Warrior
from chicago
Date Reviewed: December 4, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | DRT | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Strengths: | It does a great job of silencing chain slap. The glue worked fine for me, but my frame was all chewed up thru the paint and down to the aluminum. The carbon fiber strands started to fray from the edges of the skin. I put some super glue on the ends of the lizard skin and it holds together fine now. The glue was not to hold the lizard skin to the bike, it was to hold the skin together as it started to de-laminate. I glued it when I installed it and have had no problems all year. | | Weaknesses: | tried to self-separate but is easily glued back together | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | Trek 8000LT all XT / hayes disc / Bomber Z1 MCR | | Bottom Line: | Mine installed fine, and it does a great job of preventing the chain from hitting the frame while jumping logs! It holds up great, it shows no sign of the chain eating thru it. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
sempai
a
from mobile, al, usa
Date Reviewed: November 30, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Strengths: | cheap
tough
black | | Weaknesses: | moves around a bit
eats dirt | | Bike Setup: | specialized rockhopper with deore front and rear | | Bottom Line: | BUY THE VELCRO.
i decided to buy the velcro sleeve after hearing horror stories about the sticky ones. it's removable, it's padded, and soaks up damage really well.
it also soaks up dirt and mud so if you really go through some messy stuff you're gonna have to take it off and rinse it. no big deal, it's still better than getting something to stick to your bike's clear coat.
it eliminates chatter, and prevents the chain stay and chain from being damaged by bad bumps. it's super fat, so it fits well around my stay, but it's a pain to get it to stay in one place, instead it rotates when the chain hits it, so just give up about getting the 'lizard skins' logo to point out, odds are it'll point down, or be eating chain in no time.
but this is a great product since it comes off and on, is washable, and does the job. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Martin Lang
a Cross Country Rider
from St. Louis, MO, USA
Date Reviewed: September 10, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | castlewood | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$9.00 | | Purchased At: | rei | | Strengths: | Looks Phat. | | Weaknesses: | it is basically like trying to lick a piece of paper and have that stick to your chainstay....The adheasive is crap and the carbon fibre is too rigid to bend around my chainstays. | | Similar Products Used: | Lizard Skins neoprene chainstay guard, the POS clear one that came with my old bike | | Bike Setup: | Gary Fisher 2005 Big Sur, with the Neoprene one... | | Bottom Line: | its crap....but hey they gave me my money back at least | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andy
a Cross Country Rider
from ON, Canada
Date Reviewed: July 17, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$11.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | There are none - the product would have to be usable for me to find any strengths. | | Weaknesses: | I don't stick worth a rats ass | | Similar Products Used: | OEM protector | | Bike Setup: | Kona Explosif XC ride | | Bottom Line: | The product in question - the carbon fiber chainstay protector - is a piece of garbage. Cannot get it to stick to my chainstay even after following mfg instructions to the letter. Bought it before checking reviews on mtbr - my mistake. So do not waste your cash, electrical tape would do a better job than this piece of crap. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
brennon
a
from Fairbanks, AK
Date Reviewed: July 9, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$7.00 | | Purchased At: | JensonUSA | | Bike Setup: | 2003 Specialized Rockhopper | | Bottom Line: | Gets the job done, the Jumbo sized one is a real stretch to fit to my frame, making me think maybe the next size up would be a little better. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Joseph
a Weekend Warrior
from Akron, OH
Date Reviewed: June 8, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | PricePoint | | Strengths: | The carbon fiber looks really nice, and should be pretty tough! That's about it. | | Weaknesses: | Won't stick, no matter what I tried. Followed instructions exactly. | | Bike Setup: | 1985 Trek 2000 Aluminum; Kestrel 200SCi Carbon | | Bottom Line: | This product is the worst! Even after followint the provided instructions to the letter, this crap will not stick. At all.
Will try the 2x sided tape trick, but a real disappointment. Too bad though - they look really good and seem durable. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Gordon
a Weekend Warrior
from Singapore
Date Reviewed: April 28, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | Roads + Off Road | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$9.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Looks cool. Really graps the chainstay and protects from scratches. Sound is reduced only by 70%. | | Weaknesses: | Doesnt reduce sound so much. Soaks up water when wet. Absorbs most of my lube of the chain and stains the chainstay guard. | | Similar Products Used: | Plastic laminate. | | Bike Setup: | Progear 2005, Shimano System, DNM Fireball rear shock, RST T-4 Fork , Progear saddle, Modified handgrips, Promax disc brakes
Lizard Skins chainstay, grunge guard for both derailleurs and headset seal. | | Bottom Line: | Get it if you want looks and a little sound reduction. Also, if you're afraid of your frame getting scratched, use it..! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Zach Boardman
a Cross Country Rider
from Palo Alto, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: April 27, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$12.00 | | Purchased At: | Local Bike Shop | | Strengths: | None. I have tried BOTH the neoprene and carbon fiber guards. Neither of these worked. If you care about your frame, get a chain-away from GEBALI.COM, they actually work and look good! | | Weaknesses: | As everyone knows by now... the carbon guard simply falls right off the bike with use (like mine did). As for the neoprene, it twists, gets covered in oil, AND THE CHAIN GOES THROUGH IT to chip the paint off the frame anyway! The neoprene was not thick enough, oil and sun seem to break it down and then it falls apart. It also twists during the ride and never seems to stay in the same place. So it ended up looking poorly as well! | | Similar Products Used: | GEBALI chain-away, rubber, tape | | Bike Setup: | Specialized Stump Jumper FSR, Specialized Stump Jumper Team hardtail | | Bottom Line: | Go to GEBALI.COM and have a look at their chain-away. After instense frustration and wasting money on Lizard Skins, it does a great job. They are hand made (probably by people who actually ride), and look much nicer than all the alternatives(especially the tape and rubber). They must be just starting out, but they really seem to care about their customers and gear. Don't waste your money on Lizard Skins! For the cost they just aren't close to worth it. I have a holy Lizard Skin, dinged chainstay, and worthless carbon non-sticker to prove it! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jereme
a Weekend Warrior
from Eau Claire, WI, USA
Date Reviewed: January 2, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Purchased At: | Nashbar | | Strengths: | I'm reviewing the carbon guard. Would look good on my gray and black Marin. Would offer some pretty good protection from chips. | | Weaknesses: | Nope, won't stick. Won't stick at all. Not even after wrapping tape around it tightly and letting the adhesive stick for a couple weeks. | | Similar Products Used: | Neoprene headset guard works pretty good. | | Bike Setup: | '04 Marin Pine Mountain. Steel frame that needs more protection than this guard can offer. | | Bottom Line: | Worthless. Unusable. Won't stick to the frame, even though I followed the directions regarding warming the thing to soften it up first. Crapola. Looks good, though. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mr. Grover
a Weekend Warrior
from OC, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: October 10, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | Weir Canyon | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$6.00 | | Purchased At: | Price Point | | Strengths: | Nice look, quiets things down vs. typical sticker | | Weaknesses: | Adhesive supplied is a joke! | | Similar Products Used: | Stock chainstay stickers | | Bike Setup: | DBR V-Link 3.2, SRAM ESP 9.0 8-speed | | Bottom Line: | I bought before I found these reviews! Advice below is correct: wipe off existing adhesive, get thin, quality double-stick tape, clean up chainstay and new Lizard Skins guard, then use the tape. I happened to have good tape in the garage, so this didn't take me an extra trip. So...I'll only ding it a little on value. The product itself works and the tape actually adds some sound damping (I suspect). So...if you like the look and are prepared to use good tape, this thing's fine and seems durable. I wouldn't pay the MSRP of $10+, however... | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tony
a Cross Country Rider
from Olympia, WA. USA
Date Reviewed: September 14, 2004 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | On line | | Strengths: | Looks cool and could be a good guard if it stayed put. | | Weaknesses: | Wont stick | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | Cannondale R4000 road bike (sorry for crashing). | | Bottom Line: | Well, I guess I got stuck with this stuff. Like everyone else, I followed all the instructions to no avail. I have not been able to get the chain stay guard or the patches to fully adhere to the frame. I should have looked for some reviews before I purchased this crap. These guys must be laughing all the way to the bank. I just sent an email to their web site. It will be interesting to see the response. It will probably be something like “thanks for the money, stupid!”. I plan to try some mods on this stuff to see if I can get it to work. Wish me luck. DON’T BUY THIS STUFF! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
James
a Weekend Warrior
from Highland, IL, USA
Date Reviewed: August 23, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | Silver Lake | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Purchased At: | Touring Cyclist | | Strengths: | This review is for the Neoprene chainstay protecter. It really quites down the ride. | | Weaknesses: | None. | | Similar Products Used: | None. | | Bike Setup: | Trek 4500, mostly stock except clipless pedals and new stem. | | Bottom Line: | This thing really quieted down the ride on the singletrack. I was really getting tired of hearing the chain slap the chainstay with every bump. Wish I would have bought it long before I did. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jason
a Cross Country Rider
from Decatur, Georgia
Date Reviewed: August 11, 2004 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Purchased At: | internet | | Strengths: | None | | Weaknesses: | Does not stick to bike | | Bottom Line: | This is a review of the carbon chainstay guard (the velco cloth guard works fine). I, like all the reviewers below, followed the directions in trying to stick the carbon fiber guard to my bike, but, like the others, the guard kept coming unstuck. Don't waste your money on this product--it does not work. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rich
a Cross Country Rider
from Virginia
Date Reviewed: August 4, 2004 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Purchased At: | PricePoint | | Strengths: | Looks cool? Carbon always is a plus with me | | Weaknesses: | Non-functional, Glue sucks... | | Bike Setup: | TST/Sandvik Ti with lots of carbon and XTR + RaceFace groups. | | Bottom Line: | 1. I ride a Ti so a chainstay guard is not necesarily needed, more an asthetic touch.
2. Glue on this product SUCKS! It doesn't stick and I tried MANY methods... This product is a complete waste of money effort etc. I am, thinking of trying the double stick tape method but IMO why should I re-apply adhesive to a product that is supposed to have it already?
Nice try LS but next time don't expect me to buy another LS product. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jason Wagner
a Downhiller
from West Chester, PA
Date Reviewed: June 13, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | down | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$9.00 | | Purchased At: | Performance | | Strengths: | easy way to find thin carbon fiber | | Weaknesses: | won't stick to your bike without some double sided adhesive | | Similar Products Used: | lizard skins neoprene (bad), homemade aluminum diamond plate guard, clear rubber hose guard | | Bike Setup: | 2004 Giant VT 1 | | Bottom Line: | The bottom line is, if you need a carbon fiber protector, buy this pack, go to Home Depot and get some thin double sided adhesive. Rub the adhesive on the back of the carbon fiber off with your finger (after your failed attempts to make it stick to your bike). Apply your double sided 3M tape and you're good to go. Unless you have a flat chainstay, this thing won't stick without some mods...
What's worse, carbon that doesn't stick or neoprene that shreds in 10 rides? For my other bikes where I don't care about weight...make your own protector out of something that is fun and looks cool. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Leon
a Cross Country Rider
from London
Date Reviewed: May 28, 2004 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$15.00 | | Purchased At: | Evans Cycles Kingston | | Strengths: | none | | Weaknesses: | Absolute crap..didn't stick..yes I followed instructions to the letter.
3M adhesive is s**t. God knows why they used that type. The thing is 3M make adhesive that is far more suitable (a thicker gummier glue that is really strong straight away that I use for my job) so why didnt they use it on the lizard skins?
Tried one patch to no avail. Junked the rest.
Also I think they are a little too thick. That is why they are not forming around the tubes properly. | | Similar Products Used: | I have some thin see through plastic stickers now. PERFECT and CHEAP! Buy a sheet of suitable adhesive plastic from RS...costs nothing! and you can cut it to your own shape.
Works for me. | | Bike Setup: | Klein Attitude (which is why I'm stressed about the frame chipping!) Middleburn,XT,X-lite...lovely | | Bottom Line: | Don't waste your cash on an under-developed product.
Pile of s**t. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Randy
a Cross Country Rider
from Jessup, PA
Date Reviewed: April 24, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | Ho Chi Minh | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Looks cool. | | Weaknesses: | Everything else. It won't stick to surface no matter what you do. | | Similar Products Used: | Neoprene chainstay protector from LS | | Bike Setup: | 2003 GT I-Drive | | Bottom Line: | I did the same things as the guy posted before me. Heated surface, heated protector itself, cleaned with alcohol, to no avail. Piece of crap, not worth 2 bucks, nevermind 10.
Don't waste your money!!! I would give it a zero if there was one on here. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jeff
a Weekend Warrior
from Orange County, CA
Date Reviewed: April 14, 2004 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$13.00 | | Purchased At: | Performance | | Strengths: | Carbon fiber, not bad looking | | Weaknesses: | It doesn't work--at all. | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | Fisher 4+ | | Bottom Line: | A disaster from the beginning. I cleaned the bike, used the alcohol rub, warmed up the material as suggested stuck it on and voila... it didn't stick. I wrapped it all up with tape and gave it two days. Removed the tape before a ride and went on my way... came back to find a carbon fiber/dirt magnet chainguard protection system only stuck on the flat area. Promptly 86'd it. I'll look to spend my play money with other suppliers. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dan
a Weekend Warrior
from Tipp City, OH
Date Reviewed: April 10, 2004 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | Local shop | | Strengths: | Nice clean look. | | Weaknesses: | Would not stick to the chainstay. | | Similar Products Used: | Just the cheap clear vinal that comes on the frame. | | Bike Setup: | 105 Road bike | | Bottom Line: | Good looking product, it just needs better design. It should be precurved to the contour of a chainstay tube. The adhesive is junk. I had to use two sided automotive trim tape to make it stay on my bike. Only buy it if your willing to go to some trouble to make it stay on. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jo
a Weekend Warrior
from Fort Collins, Colorado
Date Reviewed: March 28, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | the world | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$7.00 | | Purchased At: | Rei | | Strengths: | Indestructable,actually sticks (contrary to popular belief) , Cool looking, what more can you ask for? | | Weaknesses: | can be dificult to apply | | Similar Products Used: | lizardskins nylon | | Bike Setup: | Novara Aspen, stock | | Bottom Line: | This is a Great product, although the application may be a little tricky, this will protect your bike for a LONG time. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Aaron Ament
a Racer
from Greendale, WI, USA
Date Reviewed: March 21, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | Crystal Ridge | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | Emerys Super Fitness and Cycle | | Strengths: | It's Carbon Fiber, super strong. | | Weaknesses: | Can't keep it from lifting off the frame. | | Similar Products Used: | Lizard Skins Nylon chainstay protector. Lizard Skins frame patches. | | Bike Setup: | 2003 Trek 8000, stock setup. | | Bottom Line: | I'll start with the good. The carbon fiber frame patches work well. I use one on the head tube to keep brake cables from rubbing, No Problem. Now the bad. The carbon fiber chainstay protector is a piece of crap. I followed the instructions for applying it, but it wouldn't stay on more than 10 minutes before the edges started lifting. I used eletrical tape to secure it,( should have been included with the protector)but it still wants to lift off. My advice, Don't waste your money. Buy the nylon one with the velcro. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jeff
a Cross Country Rider
from Burlington, Ontario
Date Reviewed: March 14, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | Waterdown | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Purchased At: | Brant Cycle | | Strengths: | Looks cool and saves your frame. | | Weaknesses: | Difficult to adhere, UNLESS YOU KNOW THE TRICK. | | Bike Setup: | 2004 Giant NRS1, 2002 Giant NRS1 | | Bottom Line: | Everyone seems to have problems with the Carbon Fiber chain stay protector sticking. I had the same problem with the Carbon Fiber Frame Patches on my first bike. BUT, then I tried warming the patch up with an iron first and the things stick like a charm, even across welds on the frame.
Put the carbon patch on an ironing board, put a layer of cotton fabric over the patch and iron away. Just a few seconds with a hot iron should be good, too hot and the adhesive can start coming away from the carbon fibre. Now stick it on. Don't forget to wipe the frame with alcohol first!
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Submitted by
Marty Smith
a Weekend Warrior
from Graham, NC
Date Reviewed: March 1, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | Not found it yet. | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$13.00 | | Purchased At: | Performance | | Strengths: | Looks Cool | | Weaknesses: | Carbon chainstay protector WILL NOT ADHERE TO BIKE FRAME!!! | | Similar Products Used: | Lizard Skins Velcro, NOW this finally is a good solution. | | Bike Setup: | Hardtail | | Bottom Line: | Carbon chainstay protector WILL NOT ADHERE TO BIKE FRAME!!! I, like everyone else, followed the directions, cleaned and heated etc. and it just will not hold. I even removed it and smeared (used a whole tube) of Super Glue and that didn't even work. So finally, I replaced the carbon guard with the LS velcro guard. AAhhhhh, a perfect product. Meanwhile, I carefully removed ALL of the LS glue and Super Glue from the carbon and am left with a very lightweight carbon fiber bookmark. Albeit a $13 bookmark. ...live and learn... | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andthereyouare
a Cross Country Rider
from Bear, DE
Date Reviewed: November 24, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | Fair Hill, MD | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$7.00 | | Purchased At: | Performance Bike | | Strengths: | Looks cool, good idea I suppose. | | Weaknesses: | The 3M sticky side doesn't stick on your bike. | | Similar Products Used: | The velco material chain guard works awesome. | | Bike Setup: | Klien Attitude Race dialed up for some serious trail riding. | | Bottom Line: | This Product looks cool and had a good concept. But just doesn't stick to the frame. Don't waste your money. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Sam
a Cross Country Rider
from Knoxville, TN
Date Reviewed: October 3, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Looks cool... | | Weaknesses: | Absolutely will not adhere to chainstay; even if the included instructions are followed. | | Similar Products Used: | Lizard Skin neoprene, cut up tube, nothing. | | Bike Setup: | Yeti AS-3 FS and a Cove Handjob hardtail. | | Bottom Line: | Save your money. LBS suggested using zip ties to hold them on. Zip ties? If I wanted to use zip ties I'd just continue to use an old tube and save $10 - which is what I did. Saved a few more bucks by cancelling my subscription to Mountain Bike Action who's editors appear to have recommended this product without having actually used it. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Adam Wilson
a Downhiller
from Dundee, Oregon
Date Reviewed: August 23, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Purchased At: | Treads Bicycle Outfitters | | Strengths: | It Looks nice and doesn't get in the way. | | Weaknesses: | It doesnt stick for more than 3 hours | | Similar Products Used: | lizard skin velcro | | Bike Setup: | Specialized hard rock pro 2003 stock w/ rockshox duke sl front | | Bottom Line: | The carbon fiber chainstay protecter blows. It would not stick even though I followed the instructions. It looks good on the bike though. (Where do the patches go?)
Fix: I got three twist ties and put them on the ends and middle. I let them hold it down for a couple days and it stayed on. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
CL
a Cross Country Rider
from S. Cal
Date Reviewed: August 12, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | performance | | Strengths: | Looks cool- before you put it on | | Weaknesses: | won't stay on, bad design, impossible to make it work unless put in some super glue and ruin your bike. | | Similar Products Used: | neoprene protector, much better | | Bike Setup: | sugar 3+ | | Bottom Line: | This is for Carbon fiber chain protector, as many already said: don't ever buy this thing, I bought it because a good review by magazine, what a crap! came off after 20 minutes and I mailed it back to Lizard Skin, they never respond for three months now. Forget about it, it's the worse product I've ever try for my mtn. bike. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Matt Fulks
a Cross Country Rider
from Oklahoma City, OK
Date Reviewed: August 4, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | Dirt | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$9.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Looks really neat in the store..... | | Weaknesses: | Total crap on the bike. | | Similar Products Used: | Lizard Skins neoprene wrap around | | Bike Setup: | 2002 Trek 8000 | | Bottom Line: | The carbon fiber chainstay guard is worthless. The only way it will stay on your bike is if you completely wrap it in electrical tape. Don't get the carbon fiber one, get the neoprene wrap around one that velcro's on. It gets twisted up, but still does its job and stays on the bike. Get a black one too. The other colors get filthy. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
bob
a Weekend Warrior
from Port Saint Lucie
Date Reviewed: June 11, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$6.00 | | Purchased At: | Price Point | | Strengths: | It looks cool. | | Weaknesses: | It doesn't stick. | | Bottom Line: | I followed the instructions, cleaned w/alcohol, heated up w/ hair drier. It would stick for an hour at the longest. I clamped it on with mini plastic clamps and let the bike bake out in the Florida sun for a couple hours and it almost stuck for 1/2 a day. I junked it and went back to the regular Lizzard Skin velco protector. Don't waste your time or money on the carbon protector. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rob Black
a Cross Country Rider
from New York, NY
Date Reviewed: April 16, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | whatever I'm riding | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Looks nice | | Weaknesses: | Does not work | | Similar Products Used: | neoprene wrap around, shimano shark fin, clear plastic protector | | Bike Setup: | Yeti Koko | | Bottom Line: | Do not even consider buying the carbon fiber guard, it will not hold on anything. This is a complete waste of money, a POS. I agree with the other guys- too bad you can't give it 0 chilis. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Willy
a
from Nebraska
Date Reviewed: April 16, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$7.00 | | Purchased At: | Bike Pedalers | | Strengths: | Cheap, durable, protects the chainstay and stops the clackity-clack of chin slap. I've used the same black, fabric model for over 4 years. | | Weaknesses: | None that I can think of. | | Similar Products Used: | Some plain label guard that always fell off. | | Bike Setup: | Raleigh M800 | | Bottom Line: | Buy one, if for no other reason than to stop your chain from chipping the paint on your chainstay. 5 chiles, both ways! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Aaron
a
from Austin
Date Reviewed: February 14, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | Tested or demo'ed only | | Price Paid: |
$6.00 | | Strengths: | Carbon fiber looks great... | | Weaknesses: | ...until it starts peeling up. | | Bottom Line: | The LS Carbon Fiber protector is absolute garbage. This is the second one Ive tried and the second one Ive had peel up on me imediately after I applied it. And yes, I cleaned it with alcohol and used the blow drier to heat up the material as I was sticking it down. DOESNT WORK!!! Does lizard skins not test their products before releasing it. I want to know how much they paid Mtn. Bike Action mag to give it a good review because thats where I read about it and got the impression it was worth a crap. Hopefully i can get my money back. Dont buy it. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Hank
a Cross Country Rider
from Catalina, AZ
Date Reviewed: January 30, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | Golder Ranch/50-year network | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | Local Shop | | Strengths: | Carbon Fiber Looks Cool | | Weaknesses: | Looks pretty lame wrapped with electrical tape until I get a new neoprene/velcro guard | | Similar Products Used: | LS neoprene/velcro, duct tape | | Bike Setup: | Schwinn Rocket 88 | | Bottom Line: | Saw a good review in one of the mags, thought I'd give it a try (bike as shipped had some weak plast-ick shiny thing that was screaming to be peeled off before it snagged and ripped off). Anyway - followed tip to soften up with a blow drier so that it would contour better. Didn't stick worth crap - despite significant cleaning of application area with supplied alcohol pad and prior overall frame cleaning. Bite, bite, bite. I've got it cheap-o rigged with electric tape (black helps disguise) until I can get the old standard to replace it. I'm giving one flame because the package also included some cool carbon fiber squares, which I'm using for cable-rub spots.. they stick fine for some reason. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Joe
a
from Roswell, GA
Date Reviewed: January 9, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Strengths: | None. | | Weaknesses: | This thing would not stick to a frame even if you used Crazy Glue. | | Similar Products Used: | Velcro Lizard Skin. | | Bike Setup: | Ted Wojcik, XT, Chris King. | | Bottom Line: | The carbon stick on chainstay guard blows. What a waste of a 10 spot. Do not, I repeat, do not buy one.
Use the spongy velcro Lizard Skin guards. They work. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Evan
a
from brisbane, australia
Date Reviewed: December 22, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Strengths: | durable, looks great, protects my frame | | Weaknesses: | get black, it is a really dirty area | | Similar Products Used: | frog skin, tape, tube | | Bike Setup: | 2003 xtc nrs 2, lx/xt, sid forx, tubeless crossroc | | Bottom Line: | i had this on my old mountain bike which i did many races on and i ripped it off after having it for 3 and a half years and chucked it on my new bike and it is still in perfect condition, except for the dirtiness. but i mean it has made the resale of my old bike go up buy quite a bit. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andrew Cohen
a Weekend Warrior
from richmond, va usa
Date Reviewed: December 12, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | pocohontas park | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | Agee's Bicycles | | Strengths: | Protects, strong, nice fabric | | Weaknesses: | none | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | Trek 6700, Wellgo Flat DH Pedals, Fox Sierra gloves, Giro Semi MX helmet | | Bottom Line: | 5 Flaming fingers | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Big G
a Weekend Warrior
from San Diego CA
Date Reviewed: November 27, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Purchased At: | performance | | Strengths: | protects chain stay
no more clancking noise | | Weaknesses: | none | | Bottom Line: | $10 well spent. if you are annoyed by the clanking of the chain against your chainstay or just want to protect your bike, spend the $10 and get the fabrick one that has velcro. I heard the carbon patch dosn't stick to anything.
I give it 5 flaming butt holes! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Adam
a Cross Country Rider
from Barnesville, Ga
Date Reviewed: November 7, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Dauset | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | There are none it SUCKS!!!!!!!!!! | | Weaknesses: | Will not stick to anything | | Similar Products Used: | NONE | | Bike Setup: | 2003 Giant XTC | | Bottom Line: | The Carbon is a piece of crap. I was having some work done to my bike at the LBS and asked the guy to throw one on for me. As I was pushing my bike through the store the carbon skin fell off. We tried to reattach it but there was no adhesive left. Waste ten bucks on something else these things are crap. I have to agree with other post it doesn't even deserve a chili. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Will Garrity
a Weekend Warrior
from Havertown PA USA
Date Reviewed: October 30, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Marsh Creek | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | Bike Line | | Strengths: | kills the chain noise and prevents scratches on the chainstay. | | Weaknesses: | None so far, kind of tricky to get on my chainstay (go figure....) | | Bike Setup: | Fisher Joshua F4 | | Bottom Line: | people complain that it wont stay to the chainstay but all you have to do is tie it on with some string or tape it and it wont move around at all | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Brian
a Racer
from Wisconsin
Date Reviewed: October 27, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Holzinger Trails | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | Wheel & Sprocket | | Strengths: | Carbon, can't get much cooler than that. Light. | | Weaknesses: | Doesn't seem to want to stick to bare titanium too well. | | Similar Products Used: | LS neoprene guard (may have to go back to it), electrical tape, the stickers that come on the bike. | | Bike Setup: | 2002 Airborne Lancaster, full XT, Avid Single Digit 7 brakes and levers, Sid SL, Custom built wheel set, Time ATAC Comp pedals, Titec Ti seat post and handle bar, Titec Al stem, WTB grips, Kenda Kharisma Crystal tires, Selle Italia Flite Genuine Gel | | Bottom Line: | This product definitely looks cool and does its job if it sticks, the operative word be if. Mine started peeling up as did many others, I did find however that if you have a LS neoprene chainstay protector you can put that on over the carbon fiber one for a few days and it seems to be sticking again. I'll have to get back on whether or not this made it stick for good. So for now, only 3 flaming things since I had to work extra hard to make it work, but it is really cool. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
sooyoung lee
a Weekend Warrior
from mn usa
Date Reviewed: October 24, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | carver county trails | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$7.00 | | Purchased At: | jensonusa | | Strengths: | cheap easy solution | | Weaknesses: | none so far | | Similar Products Used: | duct tape | | Bike Setup: | jamis durango sx stock | | Bottom Line: | great thing to have to protect from the god d#%n chain slap. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
sooyoung lee
a Weekend Warrior
from mn usa
Date Reviewed: October 24, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | carver county trails | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$7.00 | | Purchased At: | jensonusa | | Strengths: | cheap easy solution | | Weaknesses: | none so far | | Similar Products Used: | duct tape | | Bike Setup: | jamis durango sx stock | | Bottom Line: | great thing to have to protect from the god d#%n chain slap. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ralph
a Cross Country Rider
from El Segundo, CA
Date Reviewed: September 17, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Santa Ana River trail | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$6.00 | | Strengths: | There's some carbon fiber under that logo somewhere... | | Weaknesses: | Uh, doesn't stick. Could that logo be any bigger? | | Bike Setup: | Airborne Lucky Strike | | Bottom Line: | Review is obviously for the carbon fiber version. It's utter garbage. Edges come up immediately from brushed titanium surface. I thought, well, maybe it sticks better to painted surfaces, but looking at the reviews below that clearly isn't the case either. And if you can get the thing to stick, then you get to be a rolling advertisement - they should pay you to use the thing. I think it was MB Action that gave this a great review -- nice job, guys. Keep up the good work. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Matt
a Weekend Warrior
from Pa
Date Reviewed: September 8, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$6.00 | | Purchased At: | Price Point | | Strengths: | Carbon Fiber | | Weaknesses: | Pulling away from the frame after one ride, still sticks where tape is but, the plastic over the carbon fiber is coming away | | Bottom Line: | I take away my previous review. This thing (carbon fiber chainstay) is trash and a waste of money. I should have listened to the reviewer below. I'm going to write Lizard Skins now and let them know what happened. If there was a way I could give this product no flamin' turds, I would! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Matt
a Weekend Warrior
from Easton, PA USA
Date Reviewed: September 7, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$6.00 | | Purchased At: | Price Point | | Strengths: | Carbon Fiber does look pretty sweet on the bike. Serves it's purpose. | | Weaknesses: | May come off and leave some glue behind, but for 6 bucks I really don't care. | | Similar Products Used: | original tape that was on the bike | | Bike Setup: | Schwinn Mesa | | Bottom Line: | I had no problems with the edges coming up when I put it on. The 3M adhesive seems to be doing it's job. Although, I haven't had a chance to really beat on it yet. So, we'll see. Therefore I'm giving it half flaming turds all the way around. My buddy has the wraparound version and has no problems with it and it's keeping his frame nice and pretty =). So, I decided to go a different route and give this one a try for experimental purposes. I may update later. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Aaron
a
from Austin, TX
Date Reviewed: August 10, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Strengths: | Carbon fiber looks cool | | Weaknesses: | Wont stick to my chainstay | | Similar Products Used: | LS neoprene wrap around guard | | Bottom Line: | This is for the new Carbon fiber stick on chainstay guard. It looks great and its made of real carbon fiber. Well it also doesnt stick. When I installed it I used the alcohol wipe as instructed. My chainstay is like new and very clean as I had a wrap around guard on it since it was new. No matter what I did, the edges kept unsticking. I even wrapped zip ties all over it and let it sit overnight and once I took them off the edge started peeling back up. Imagine what this would do once I rode it offroad and dirt got all underneath it. This was a waste of my $8. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jay
a Weekend Warrior
from Woodbridge, NJ
Date Reviewed: July 31, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Any with dirt | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$5.00 | | Purchased At: | Kim's Cycles New Brunswick, NJ | | Strengths: | Does what its supposed to do. | | Weaknesses: | None | | Similar Products Used: | Tape | | Bike Setup: | Trek 4300 Disc | | Bottom Line: | Good product to protect your chainstay. Comes in numerous colors and it is washable. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Sprocketeer
a Cross Country Rider
from Narashino, Chiba, Japan (native of New York)
Date Reviewed: July 2, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | One where I can't hear any cars. | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | Seo Cyclem, LalaPort Tokyo Bay shopping mall, Minami-Funabashi, Chiba, Japan | | Strengths: | They look good, they're washable, inexpensive, come in a variety of colors, of negligable weight, and show hardly any wear and tear after over two years of off-road riding with them. | | Weaknesses: | They're so inexpensive and indespensible that manufacturers should include them with new bikes instead of putting some crappy plastic sticker on the chainstay. | | Similar Products Used: | Crappy thick plastic stickers which come with each bike. | | Bike Setup: | I have two, but my main ride now is a 2002 Trek 8000, stock except for Shimano 959 pedals thus far, plus cyclocomputer, bar-ends and such. | | Bottom Line: | Some people think it's real cool to use an old tire tube to protect the chainstay, and maybe back before Lizard Skins that was the thing to do, but now I can't imagine why anyone would use anything but this product or something similar unless they wanted to show off what a "real biker" they are. These are lighter and do a much better job of protecting the chainstay.
They were a little hard to put on at first (plural because I use them on three different bikes) but that's no big deal since I've only ever taken them off once to wash them.
Lizard Skins definitely beats similar products by Speedstuff and such on durability and protective properties alone, and Lizard Skins has improved their designs for 2002.
The chainstay guards sold me on the fork boots, which sold me on the headset protector, and now I'm thinking about ordering the derailer covers because my derailers get caked with dust and/or mud on every ride.
They're so light that I'm not worried about whatever amount of weight they're adding to my bike.
Happy Trails! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
b dawg
a
from buffalo
Date Reviewed: June 17, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$5.00 | | Purchased At: | they were on my bike one day.... | | Strengths: | the chain doesnt hit the tube under the chain | | Weaknesses: | none | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | trek 4500 stock (saving for new bike) | | Bottom Line: | it does its job and i dont have to listen to the chain slapping me frame although i didnt buy it it ended up on my frame and thats pretty cool however that happened (probably bike fairy) | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mitch Blyumin
a Cross Country Rider
from Buffalo Grove, IL
Date Reviewed: June 9, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Anywhere | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$5.00 | | Purchased At: | Village Cycle Sport | | Strengths: | Looks, protects well, cheap, not permanent | | Weaknesses: | none what so ever | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | 2002 Fisher Big Sur | | Bottom Line: | This is the best five bucks i've ever spent in my life. Plus, it isn't permanent like those little carbon patches. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Matthew McLarty
a Weekend Warrior
from Sydney
Date Reviewed: June 5, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$9.00 | | Purchased At: | Rebel Sports | | Strengths: | Does the Job, easy to fit/remove/clean/dry, looks OK too. | | Weaknesses: | None so far... | | Similar Products Used: | Flimsy plastic film that came as stock on the bike. | | Bike Setup: | Giant Iguana - stock (needed the jumbo sized skin). | | Bottom Line: | Does what it is supposed to do, far better than the plastic film guard that was already on the bike. Covers all of the chain stay that could possibly be hit by the chain. Easy to take off and clean or dry. Thought it was a bit pricey for what it is (though that's a bad US->Aust$ exchange rate issue) but it's worth it for the damage that it prevents.
I got a black skin so it doesn't show the dirt/oil so quickly, just make sure you get the right size (try and buy it somewhere that you can test the fit). | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Craig
a Cross Country Rider
from Cambridge, MA
Date Reviewed: May 29, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | came with bike | | Strengths: | protects your chain stay
ladies love it | | Weaknesses: | variable chainstay diameter causes bunches in velcro | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | 2000 Trek 8000, XT/LX | | Bottom Line: | Everybody keeps whining about how the the skin turns black after awhile---I just throw mine in the wash with the shop towels and it comes out looking like new (with a few white fuzzies in the velcro)!
Recommended.
I give four flamers for the value rating because you should be able to get this for free somewhere. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
jacob
a Cross Country Rider
from Hinton IA
Date Reviewed: April 27, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | Albrects | | Strengths: | It protects your frame from getting ruined makes it looks nice and helps resale value | | Weaknesses: | Adds a minimal amount of weight and is hard to get on certain bikes such as Giant XTC NRS Air | | Similar Products Used: | Plastic that came on bike it failed to work after one day it had been torn up | | Bike Setup: | Giant XTC NRS Air XTR Sid SL Thompson Elite | | Bottom Line: | Well worth your money forget about the added weight and protect your bike you have put alot of money into it. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Aaron
a Cross Country Rider
from Austin, TX
Date Reviewed: April 2, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$6.00 | | Purchased At: | online | | Strengths: | Functions as promised | | Weaknesses: | Fits, but a bit of a pain to put on and take off | | Similar Products Used: | sticker, spare wheel spokes | | Bottom Line: | After just one ride on my new Raleigh, I notices a buncha chips and scratches on my chainstay despite the sticker guard it came with. I found the Lizardskin online and ordered it when I ordered some other stuff. It works really good and I really cant find anything to whine about other than its a pain to install sometimes. The only other thing that I have seen work as good is on my old Diamondback where 3 extra wheel spokes are mounted to the chainstay and those did an excellent job of keeping the chain off. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
tim finnegan
a Cross Country Rider
from brockton, ma
Date Reviewed: February 22, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | holyoke range | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$7.00 | | Purchased At: | lbs | | Strengths: | it works | | Weaknesses: | does not impress the ladies that much | | Similar Products Used: | tubes, electrical tape, not riding the bike down hills | | Bike Setup: | fisher tassajara with powerpuff girls sticker on the top tube | | Bottom Line: | the one thing on my bike that is also on the bikes of rich fancy lads. i had it on my old hardrock for years and when i took it off, the chainstay was the only place on the frame that didn't look all pockmarked like noriega's face. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
james
a Weekend Warrior
from Scotland, UK
Date Reviewed: February 15, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | local bike shop | | Strengths: | None, I suppose they look good. | | Weaknesses: | Doesn't do what it says on the tin. | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | Kona Chute 01, Psylo, XT, Hope on D521... | | Bottom Line: | These things are weak. After a couple of harsh rides the neoprene stuff was cut up from all the chain slap. Don't waste your money. Get a piece of inner tubing and ziptie it to your chainstay. It's cheaper(use a tube that's punctured), and lasts alot longer. It'll also fit any size of chainstay. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jeff Li
a Weekend Warrior
from Hong Kong
Date Reviewed: January 10, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Tai Mo Shan | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$7.00 | | Purchased At: | Shun Lee Bicycles Co. | | Strengths: | protects your stay well... looks good and comes in many different colours to match your frame | | Weaknesses: | becomes black.. but this is not a problem... the chain is supposed to hit it ! | | Similar Products Used: | Woodman | | Bike Setup: | Intense Tazer, Middleburn crank, 321 rims, XT freewheel, Deore Shifter, disc brakes.. etc.. | | Bottom Line: | the bottom line is that this is a cool product and it DOES protect your stay... i got a new frame a little earlier and i peeled off my lizard skin from the old frame and there were no, absolutely no scratches and chips AT ALL...
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Submitted by
Kane
a Weekend Warrior
from Melbourne, Australia
Date Reviewed: December 23, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | Freedom Machine | | Strengths: | It does what it says it will | | Weaknesses: | hardest thing ever to fit, i got the large and it only just fits around my chainstay | | Similar Products Used: | old tyre | | Bike Setup: | Avanti Aggressor pro, shimano XT disc, mich. Wildgripper comp s tyres, etc. | | Bottom Line: | Worth it, as i said doesn't fit real well on big chainstays, but it does exactly what it says it will, a rare thing, gave it 4 chillis coz no mention of this on the pakaging | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jeff
a Weekend Warrior
from UK
Date Reviewed: October 17, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Purchased At: | Flying Ball, Hong Kong | | Strengths: | Look okay | | Weaknesses: | They don't really work (though they appear to) | | Bike Setup: | Cannondate XT | | Bottom Line: | These things fool you into thinking that they protect your chainstay, but if you peel it off after a year as I did, you may well find that your chain has completely chipped your stay anyway. Think about it, is an incredibly thin piece of soft neoprene really going to protect a chain whipping into your stay? Use a hard plastic protector like a Shark's Fin instead. These things are useless. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Big O
a Weekend Warrior
from Monterey, Ca
Date Reviewed: October 11, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Galbraith | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Does what it is supposed to and does it well. | | Weaknesses: | None | | Similar Products Used: | OEM, tube, bare frame | | Bike Setup: | Titus QM, Z1 QR20, XT, Hayes, King Rear | | Bottom Line: | Why not get one? All of my bikes have had one and the darn things last and do their job. They come in several sizes so just be sure to buy the correct size. Work good, look better than a tube zip tied to the bike (IMO). | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Garry
a Weekend Warrior
from Santa Clara
Date Reviewed: October 9, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$9.00 | | Purchased At: | Off Ramp Santa Clara | | Strengths: | Looks kinda cool. Does the job. | | Weaknesses: | Little expensive for what it is. | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | Specialized Stumpjumper Pro | | Bottom Line: | Something new for the bike | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Martin Miller
a Cross Country Rider
from Mundelein
Date Reviewed: August 30, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Devil's Head | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Purchased At: | Arlington Bicycle Company | | Strengths: | Good protection | | Weaknesses: | how could there be weaknesses on a piece of cloth with velcro | | Similar Products Used: | Crappy one that came with the bike | | Bike Setup: | Stock except for got rid of clipless for cage clips getting a new stem and I have a lizard skin | | Bottom Line: | This thing is great if all you have is a sticker chainstay guard or that lousy thing schwinn puts on its homegrowns, I mean what's not to like | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John
a Cross Country Rider
from Ohio
Date Reviewed: August 17, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | Bike Source | | Strengths: | Adds a beefy look to my bike, covers up existing damage to my frame and cancels most of the noise except for derailleur slaps. | | Weaknesses: | Hard to get on bikes that have curved chain stays. | | Bike Setup: | Custom Painted K2 hardtail with Tektro MT20, STX-RC and Alivio, Jett XC fork. | | Bottom Line: | The only cheep thing you can get at a local bike shop. Adds style to a bike and very functional. Lumps on the velcro because of curved stays. Verry good value of functionality. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Petro T
a Racer
from Chatham, Ontario, Canada
Date Reviewed: July 16, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Anything that drops. | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Purchased At: | Who cares | | Strengths: | It is cheap, common, $10.00 Canadian! And it works hard to do what it is supposed to! | | Weaknesses: | You didn't invent it, and are grouchy because you're missing out on the capital! | | Similar Products Used: | Core Rat, (awesome too). Tape and plastic! | | Bike Setup: | ORYX, XTR, Z3Qr20. | | Bottom Line: | If you don't like this, You're a tool! Seriously, get ONE! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Brett Johnson
a Cross Country Rider
from Eureka ,MO
Date Reviewed: June 22, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Chubb | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | Bike Line | | Strengths: | Durable, Lightweight, cool colors | | Weaknesses: | none | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | 2000 specialized A1 pro XT, SX-R | | Bottom Line: | This is the single most important bicycle extra available. It is very durable and saves your frame from all the chips and dings your chain causes. The price is excellent! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
me you
a Downhiller
from lethbridge, alberta, canada
Date Reviewed: May 31, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | the muff | | Duration Product Used: | Tested or demo'ed only | | Bottom Line: | Who needs a lizard skin?? All you need to do is go down to your local bike shop and ask for an old tire that can' be used as a tire, then cut it up the right size and strap it to your bike. best of all its free! it works just as good if not better because if you get a thick one it will last forever. i once owned a lizard skin and it was crap so i did that. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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fonseca
a Cross Country Rider
from Shenandoah Valley
Date Reviewed: May 18, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Wild Oaks | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$6.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Does what it is supposed to | | Weaknesses: | None unless you buy a colored version | | Similar Products Used: | Innertube w/ elictrical tape | | Bottom Line: | This has lasted for 5 years now. A few holes in the neoprene from rocks and falls, but that's it. I bought the light gray version, which is of course mostly black now :(
Anyone who has problems with it sliding into their gears probably should have purchased the smaller size. This has lasted longer than any part on my bike, despite constant chain slap, so 5 chilis. I'm going to try out the rear shock boot soon. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Derek
a Cross Country Rider
from Springfield,SC,USA
Date Reviewed: May 11, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | Cycle Center | | Strengths: | It protects the Chain Stay | | Weaknesses: | None | | Bike Setup: | 2001 Trek 8000 | | Bottom Line: | It does what it says it will do. My bike would sound like a Coke can filled with rocks Going downhill until I put this thing on. I love it. Takes a moment to put on.
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BAM BAM
a Weekend Warrior
from Toronto Canada
Date Reviewed: April 17, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Warden Woods | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$6.00 | | Purchased At: | Sporting Life (Toronto Canada) | | Strengths: | -Protects the paint (hard to find matching paint for mine)
-Easy to apply with velcro
-Relatively inexpensive
-Looks pretty
| | Weaknesses: | -Slids around a bit if not securely tightened.
-If left on too long can scratch paint (grit under skin)
| | Similar Products Used: | -Electrical tape
-Stickers | | Bike Setup: | 99' Raleigh Micro-Lite with XTR & RaceFace setup | | Bottom Line: | For what its worth, this is one smart product. Definitely better than tape or stickers, as they tend to peel or tear.
Now if they could only make such a product for body tubes where the cable housing rubs.
-Value is well worth the 10 bucks Canadian ($6US approx.)
-Take one chili off overall because it tends shift and scratch paint if it doesn't have a strangle hold on the tube. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Aaron Snyder
a Racer
from Gilbertsville PA
Date Reviewed: April 7, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$10.00 | | Purchased At: | BikeLine of Pottstown | | Strengths: | absolutly everything! Works like hell, looks great (black), kills the god damn noise | | Weaknesses: | takes a few minutes to get on | | Similar Products Used: | cheap sticker that came with the bike | | Bottom Line: | Positivly the most worthwhile accesory. Why spend $1000+ on a bike just to have it all chipped up and looking half-ass? Possibly a little overpriced but it does work better than anything else. My friend has a freakin tube wrapped around his chainstay and when he saw my 'skin he instantly changed his mind and went out and got one that weekend. Why wouldn't you........ | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Andrew MacGillivray
a Racer
from Inverness, Scotland
Date Reviewed: March 29, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$12.00 | | Strengths: | Looks wicked. Keeps your bike from those nasty chips and noisy rattling. Protects your frame. Good performance in all weather conditions. | | Weaknesses: | A few of the colored ones fade after a while(I purchased a black one so it doesn't happen). A bit pricey.... | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | Giant ATX 850, disc brakes, Judy SL forks. | | Bottom Line: | Great performance. Looks cool, and it keeps your bike looking fresh. Was a bit hard to get on but it hasn't moved or ripped or anything like that. Black is the best option though, as all other colours fade. I've done many miles of off road Mountain Biking in these last couple of months & they have kept my chainstay looking shiny. If the price wasn't so high then they would get 5 Flamin' Chilis. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Alf Braseth
a Racer
from Norway
Date Reviewed: March 26, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | Cannot remember | | Strengths: | Does what it is intended to do | | Weaknesses: | Does not fit very well on my Klein, better on less oversized tubes | | Bike Setup: | Klein with Mavic wheels | | Bottom Line: | I use a good thick plastic/rubber band instead of Lizard skins on the Klein, the fit isn't good enough | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Technician
a Cross Country Rider
from Denver, CO
Date Reviewed: November 18, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$5.00 | | Purchased At: | JensonUSA.com | | Strengths: | Lightweight, Does It's Job, Looks Trick! | | Weaknesses: | None | | Bottom Line: | What's not to like about this product? It does it's job, it's dirt cheap, it looks nice, and it saves the chainstay on your frame. Best $5 accessory you can put on a bike. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Daid
a Weekend Warrior
from England
Date Reviewed: November 14, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | can be removed to dry and so won't corrode frame
easy to fit
| | Weaknesses: | Expensive
oversise vesion is not big enough | | Similar Products Used: | thin air
car paint | | Bike Setup: | DX Brakes and levers LX with gripshift, no suspension | | Bottom Line: | works a lot better than nothing
keeps frame well protected and looks quite good
the oversize version is to small | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Wyndon Pendergraft
a Weekend Warrior
from Fresno, CA
Date Reviewed: November 3, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$7.00 | | Purchased At: | Cyclopath | | Strengths: | Light, comes in some cool colors (now- three years ago all they had were black) and three sizes, does exactly what it's supposed to, very durable. Put it on and forget about it. | | Weaknesses: | Depending on the size of the 'Skin and the chainstay/swingarm diameter, can be a little testy to put on full suspension bikes. Sucks up dust like nobody's business. | | Similar Products Used: | Nothing aftermarket, just the OEM cellophane sticker that usually comes on bikes. | | Bike Setup: | '98 FSR with XT/XTR, White Bros. DC118; Stumpjumper with LX mix and White Bros. SC90. | | Bottom Line: | I bought another one because I liked how well my first one worked. Threw the old black one on the Stumpjumper and put a pretty red one on my FSR to contrast with the blue paint and match the red highlights. I was rather surprised at how much dust came off the old one when I took it off, but that's minor. I bought the thing to keep my stay from getting beat all to hell. It's done the job perfectly for three years and will continue its service on another bike for years to come, it seems. The new one might get a little dirty and lose the sexy factor it has right now, but I can wash it, right? I can't see getting any oil on it, either, because I use White Lightning on my chain. Five stars for what it does and five for the innovation that the company keeps putting into it such as offering different colors and sizes. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Matt Fulks
a Weekend Warrior
from McGuire AFB, NJ
Date Reviewed: November 3, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Mercer, Clayton | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$9.00 | | Purchased At: | Mount Holly Bicycles | | Strengths: | Looks good. Does its job. | | Weaknesses: | Gets dirty easily. | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | Y2K Trek 6000. | | Bottom Line: | I had been riding my bike and listening to the chain slap the chainstay when I would go over bumps. So I got this and it has made my ride much more quiet. My bike is Titanium color with red decals, and I got the red lizard skins protector. It matches the bike nicely and looks good. It does get dirty, but isn't that what it's all about? I don't know why everybody else is complaining about this product. If you don't like it getting dirty, throw it in the damn washing machine. It took me 30 seconds to get it on my bike and it doesn't slide around or anything. I had to stretch it to get it on, but it's elastic! It's supposed to be stretched! I'd say this is a good investment to protect your paintjob and not scare off the wildlife when you're coming down a trail! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
spaceman
a Weekend Warrior
from planet XXX
Date Reviewed: November 1, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | seatpost enema | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | revolution cycle | | Strengths: | cool lizard | | Weaknesses: | slid up to my chainrings and got caught between them and the chain. It was rip right away so I took it off and am out $20.00 CAN. | | Bike Setup: | U.F.O. | | Bottom Line: | It didn't last and their are so many other things you can use for cheaper that last longer. i.e, zip ties and strip of old tire, adhesive protective plastic strips. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Pascal Cormeau
a Cross Country Rider
from Calgary, ALberta, Canada
Date Reviewed: November 1, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | nose hill | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Purchased At: | Eurotech Cycle | | Strengths: | looks great - tough as hell | | Weaknesses: | squeeses the derailer cable which slows down shifting
I fixed this by putting some cable housing under the lizarad skin | | Similar Products Used: | duct tape, some cheap stickers | | Bike Setup: | GT timberline - all custom | | Bottom Line: | This product is a pain to install but works great when propperly installed so I gotta give it 5 outa 5 | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rob
a Cross Country Rider
from MS
Date Reviewed: September 5, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | Prevents chain clank, protects stays like it's supposed to.
Newer version is much tougher.
You can take it off to dry. | | Weaknesses: | None really. Any color other than black looks like crap after a month, so buy black. A little pricey
| | Similar Products Used: | old tubes, various plastic gizmos | | Bike Setup: | STP 200 w/GripShift | | Bottom Line: | The best thing about this over a home-brew stay protector is that it can easily be removed to dry after washing the bike. Do this and it won't trap water next to a steel chain stay like a zip-tied tube or cotton bar tape will.
Other stuff: yes, it stops chain clank and associated paint chipping. It's not too hard to get on most bikes, and it breaks in to fit your bike's stay after a few months. The new version is a lot tougher; it has a sort of ribbed cloth outer layer. My old ones did get some chain hit holes (so I turned them around when the holes got bad), none so far on the new one.
Like anything else that's good and goes on a mtb, it does its job and is slightly pricey. You can live without this item, but it makes life a little nicer. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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joe
a
from uk
Date Reviewed: September 5, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | does what it's supposed to, easy to clean | | Weaknesses: | a little awkward to fit, expensive for what it is. Gets soggy in the wet. | | Similar Products Used: | shimano sharkfin | | Bike Setup: | Orange Evo02, manitou, hope discs | | Bottom Line: | a lot of money for velcro and neoprene but it does stop the chain rattling and chipping. Took a bit of effort to fit it on the fat profiled stays on my bike but I've just left it on and wiped it down with a lubed rag to keep it cleanish. Any colour other than black just wouldn't make sense. There are now a few cheaper copies that will probably do the job just as well. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Phili[
a Cross Country Rider
from MA
Date Reviewed: September 4, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$8.00 | | Strengths: | It protects your frame excelently and it only costs 8 bucks. It's lasted for 2 yrs so far, | | Weaknesses: | NONE | | Similar Products Used: | n/a | | Bike Setup: | 2000 Ionic steelhead, xt/grip shift, time pedals, 517 rims, judy race | | Bottom Line: | This product kicks ass, it does what its supposed to and is inexpensive. One of the best things u can buy for your bike
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Justin Chambers
a Cross Country Rider
from Gorham, Maine
Date Reviewed: August 6, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | USM loop trail | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Does what its supposed, nothing more, nothing less. | | Weaknesses: | A little cheaply made, but again, does the trick | | Similar Products Used: | Hockey tape, old bike tubes | | Bike Setup: | 1999 KHS Crest, STX-RC, Powertools, stock except lizards. | | Bottom Line: | People complain about how expensive lizards are. SURE, but when you spend $600 bucks, or even $250 for that matter, do you really want your paint all gouged and chipped. NO!
So get a lizard skin, and don't complain. Even if you replace it every few years, its better than haveing to listen to the chainslap and getting the stares of a beat up bike.
As for the people who say a tube works better with zip ties, I'd beg to differ. If you crack your chain on that too hard, you tear it, and it also tends to dis-color the paint beneath because it's not breathable
So, I swear by these lizards, and give them 5 flaming turds all around! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
shaun
a Weekend Warrior
from cincinnati
Date Reviewed: June 27, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | landen | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | relatively durable, snug fit, good price(look at nashbar people) | | Weaknesses: | none yet | | Similar Products Used: | none, got it when i first purchased my bike | | Bike Setup: | 2000 Fisher tassajara. still stock except for that damn seat. got a specialized body comp. | | Bottom Line: | on the first ride i heard chain slap and said "dammit, i need to protect my chainstay" so i got lizardskins and haven't had a problem since. i got the standard size and it only took a minute to stretch the damn thing around my chainstay. do get black, though, or it will show. if you cant get it on your bike, try harder. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rob Williams
a Cross Country Rider
from Toronto - Canada
Date Reviewed: June 12, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Does this product have any competitors? | | Weaknesses: | Price. | | Bike Setup: | Rocky Mountain Element Race. | | Bottom Line: | If it slides around, it wasn't put on tight enough. Use some of those muscles!
It was tricky to put on, but it does it's job.
I didn't really mind the price, It's better than chipping the paint on my frame. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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David
a Cross Country Rider
from Toronto
Date Reviewed: April 4, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Does what its supposed to do. | | Weaknesses: | A little difficult to get on, but not too much that it was annoying. | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | Santa Cruz Superlight '00 | | Bottom Line: | They perform well enough. They do what you need them to do, no more no less. They will wear out, but there cheap, so thats not an issue. It takes a few minutes to get a good fit, but once on, it has stayed put. A decent product with a clever name. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Clintavious
a Weekend Warrior
from Redondo Beach, CA
Date Reviewed: April 2, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Looks good, seems to do what it's supposed to do. | | Weaknesses: | Hard, HARD to get on, too small of diameter. Logo cracked first thing off. | | Similar Products Used: | plastic hose and zip ties | | Bike Setup: | 98 Trek 7000 | | Bottom Line: | Does its job, but even the Jumbo is too small for my Trek. Need to be on 'roids to stretch it around the frame.
I give it 3 chilis for value (bought for 7.99), but it's a little too small for a large tubed aluminum frame, so only 4 chilis overall. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
KAAABooom
a Weekend Warrior
from North shore
Date Reviewed: March 9, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Anything dirt | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Only cost 10cdn dollars work like its supposed to
no more clatter
quieter doing big drops
prevents paint chips
| | Weaknesses: | hmmm could be a little thicker | | Similar Products Used: | tape | | Bike Setup: | almost stock y2k kona | | Bottom Line: | Dont know why those cheapos think this is to expencive when they can afford a 3000 dollar bike looks good fits right lasts so far
i remove it and wash it after every couple rides
i give it a 4 for value
and a 5 for rating | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Wiseman
a Cross Country Rider
from USA
Date Reviewed: March 3, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Easy to get on and off if your chainstay/swingarm isn't too big (they do sell a jumbo size for oversize/swingarms). | | Weaknesses: | the stitching falls apart fast. Liz skins never responds to my concerns | | Similar Products Used: | clear tuffy protector -- works much better than these.
A tube and two zip-ties work just as well (don't look as cool, but save you $$). | | Bottom Line: | I bought a lot of Lizard skins products with a new bike, hoping to protect parts. I spent some money doing this, and most of it wears out so fast that it isn't worth it.
Get Tuffy clear protector or just use a tube and two zip-ties. Much better/cheaper. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris Price
a Racer
from Lunenburg, Nova Scotia
Date Reviewed: December 29, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Ski Martoch | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
If your chain needs lube you can just rub you lizard skin over it. | | Weaknesses: |
Falls apart and tough to put on. High price. Absorbs oil. You can make a replacement. Just take a peace of tube, wrap it around and ad about 8 to 10 zip ties. I would give this idea 5 flaiming turds. | | Similar Products Used: |
A tube and zip ties. | | Bike Setup: |
Trek 930. | | Bottom Line: | This sucks | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
NeedySpeedy
a Racer
from South Florida
Date Reviewed: December 2, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Hardrock | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
Wont mess up your frame
Looks cool | | Weaknesses: |
Spins & moves around no matter how tight | | Bike Setup: |
Schwinn Homegrown Factory, full XTR | | Bottom Line: | The bottom line is this: You spend alot of money on your bike so dont complain about the price! Buy one, put it on, zip tie both ends so it dont move, and you wont mess up your frame. I cant believe people buy bikes for $1,000+ and want to cut up an inner tube and make one of these because they think they are too expensive! Go figure!!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Sean C.
a Cross-Country Rider
from Houston, TX
Date Reviewed: September 12, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Memorial Park | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
AH....IT COMES IN COLORS | | Weaknesses: |
WASTE OF MONEY!
SLIDES ARROUND, BULKY, LIKE EVERYTHING OF THEIR'S OF TRIED...EXPENSIVE WHAT WHAT IT IS! | | Similar Products Used: |
ONE ROLL VELOX TRESSOSTAR CLOTH ROADIE BAR TAPE! BEATS THE SHIT OUT OF THIS PIECE OF JUNK! ESPECIALLY @ $2 A ROLL! | | Bike Setup: |
GIANT Se2 Frame with XT/XTR AND LOTS OF CARBON...Judy XC for now. | | Bottom Line: | V E L O X Brand
TRESSOSTAR CLOTH BAR TAPE...SPEND THE MONEY YOU WOULD HAVE WASTED ON RITCHEY CP-13 TOOL TO SAVE YOUR BUTT IF YOUR CHAIN BREAKS! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ryan Miller a.k.a. Penisbreath
a Racer
from Smithtown, new york
Date Reviewed: August 30, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
the flat easy ones | | Duration Product Used: |
tested or demo'ed only | | Strengths: |
it looks cool | | Weaknesses: |
my best friend got his first | | Similar Products Used: |
well, at first i tried to put scotch tape....but that shreddd quickly, then i just let it scratch the fram | | Bike Setup: |
royce union, cheese usa shox | | Bottom Line: | the bottom line is that do not mix colors with the whites... | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
phil
a Cross-Country Rider
from tucson, az
Date Reviewed: August 30, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
50-year trail; Chiva falls | | Duration Product Used: |
tested or demo'ed only | | Strengths: |
adds good looks to any bike | | Weaknesses: |
***price! $13 for a piece of cloth?
slides alot | | Similar Products Used: |
inner tube | | Bike Setup: |
giant ATX 880 | | Bottom Line: | Sure it works alright, but why pay for something that can easily be made for free? I've cut an inner tube to size and attached it via two zip ties. Solves the paint problem as well as chain slap, hasn't moved in three years, and is frekin' free! | | Overall Rating: |
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