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Submitted by
Gordon
a Weekend Warrior
from Singapore Date Reviewed: April 28, 2005 | | Favorite Trail: | Roads + Off Road | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$5.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Headset seal looks cool. Keeps away dirt from your headset perfectly. | | Weaknesses: | Soaks up water when wet, logo on the seal is cracking apart due to the stretching of the headset.Size is a little too small for my headset. | | Similar Products Used: | Cloth + water? | | Bike Setup: | Progear 2005, Shimano System, DNM Fireball rear shock, RST T-4 Fork , Progear saddle, Modified handgrips, Promax disc brakes Lizard Skins chainstay, grunge guard for both derailleurs and headset seal. | | Bottom Line: | Cheap and effective. Way to go lizard skinz! oops, skins ! =) | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
john
a Cross Country Rider
from uk Date Reviewed: June 12, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$3.00 | | Purchased At: | Halfords | | Strengths: | Cheap. looks cool and does its job admirably. | | Weaknesses: | None its another seal between your h/set and the grime | | Similar Products Used: | n/a | | Bottom Line: | Just get'em you'll feel better knowing there's another layer of protection from the elements. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Big G
a
from San Diego CA Date Reviewed: November 27, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | great little invention. protects from watter, mud, dust and sand. | | Weaknesses: | none at all | | Bottom Line: | This is a great $3 investment. it does its job wonderfly and adds a little pozaz (sp?) to your bike. I don't know just get it y not? its only $3
5 flaming Hippopotamuses! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Craig
a Cross Country Rider
from Aberdeen Date Reviewed: October 4, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$3.00 | | Purchased At: | halfords | | Strengths: | cheap and functional | | Weaknesses: | red doesn,t go and I think its scuffing the black crown on my duke suspension forks | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | long travel heavy duty hardtail | | Bottom Line: | u can,t go wrong for 3 quid I use it when I know its going to be wet and/or muddy and it makes a difference. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Gordon Ghenter
a Cross Country Rider
from Flagstaff AZ Date Reviewed: January 27, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | yes | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$3.00 | | Strengths: | cheap, makes a 20 dollar headset perform like a King (even though the King will last five times as long-at five times the price) | | Bottom Line: | Why not get one? I just got a new headset and I really like the way it performs. It is not a King, but I am not a slave to fashion and I'm poor. I got this LS to help keep gunk out of my catridge bearing headset and it does a pretty good job. It adds another layer of protection to any headset, not an airtight seal. Satisfied consumer, 5 stars. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
derek
a Cross Country Rider
from fed way, WA Date Reviewed: December 27, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Victor Falls | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Looks good, keeps clean, cheap protection | | Weaknesses: | none | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | Jamis Durango | | Bottom Line: | Well, it looks good, and keeps the headset clean! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Toby
a
from MD Date Reviewed: November 4, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | Works | | Weaknesses: | None | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | SC Chameleon, home build
| | Bottom Line: | I have a King headset, and I still use this. If you ride in the mud/water, grit and gunk will make its way into your lower race each ride. This doesn't stop it, but it is a cheap and easy way to slow it down. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Steve
a Weekend Warrior
from Mountain View CA Date Reviewed: February 26, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Henry Coe | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$3.00 | | Purchased At: | Performance.com | | Strengths: | Cheap Simple | | Weaknesses: | None | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | Stock Santa Cruz Superlight | | Bottom Line: | The newer version seems a bit wider, so it stays in place better than those I had on my previous bike. These little buggers just seem like cheap insurance for those of us without a Chris King Headset. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rod Angler
a Weekend Warrior
from NOLA Date Reviewed: December 14, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$3.00 | | Strengths: | Inexpensive protection for your headset from mud, water, dust (if you don't have a nice sealed Chris King headset yet, I don't)
They work pretty well. Easy to remove and wash (simple velcro closure, a simple but effective product). | | Weaknesses: | None. I suppose velcro will wear out, and the neoprene isn't exactly thick and super durable. | | Similar Products Used: | n/a | | Bottom Line: | They are very inexpensive, work fine, and come in multiple colors for the fashion concious.
The rear shock boots work fine too. Just avoid the Fork boots, as they are very nearly totally worthless.
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Submitted by
shane richardson
a Cross Country Rider
from raleigh nc Date Reviewed: June 29, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | hmmmmm let me think | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | stays on well. Adds a little flash. Saves the headset at least some abuse | | Weaknesses: | none... what do you want for 3 bucks? | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | raleigh m600 | | Bottom Line: | I don't know why everyone is so worried about people thinking that they have a cheep headset. Even if I did have a King headset I would use this product and help protect my investment. Even if it is a well sealed headset I would think that the LS seal would take the brunt of the punnishment on a messy day, and prevent most of the crud from getting through.
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Submitted by
River Dio
a Weekend Warrior
from America Date Reviewed: March 3, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Hmmm. Works right off and then fails | | Weaknesses: | it falls apart and worse, it doesn't cover the key parts of the HS seal | | Similar Products Used: | nothing | | Bottom Line: | Grrr. I have a carbon frame and a Syncros headset, which is still clean (due to my own vigilance), but the skin doesn't stay in place where the headset gap lies. Thus, it doesn't work. It's just a gimmick, in my case. It's worn in only a couple of months and after a wet ride, my headset is completley wet anyway. Grrr.
I've seen some people use a tube (you have to remove the fork and ring it around the head tube and fork). But those wear out too.
There doesn't seem to be a good solution. This skin isn't one anyway. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Richard Simms
a Racer
from Williamsburg,VA Date Reviewed: October 24, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | it's a secret..'nuff said! | | Duration Product Used: | more than 3 years | | Strengths: | Cheap, better than nothing, and the only alternative you have for the bottom when your fork's already installed. | | Weaknesses: | Better than nothing, when you need it, but not that effective. | | Similar Products Used: | Slice of inner tube. | | Bike Setup: | Schwinn/Paramount with Manitou-2's...yeah, old, but a real classic in its day. | | Bottom Line: | I put these on my GT when I first built it, as the O-rings in the headset were minimal when present and there was not enough to re-use them. I wasn't going to buy a new head set, just for seals. The Lizard skins do keep birds and rocks out, but they are not dust proof, but, they're a lot better than nothing.I took a friend's advice and tried a slice from an inner tube on my Schwinn, but the tube would move with the turning of the fork and quickly slip out of place. I used rubber cement to glue one side down. I glued the top one to the stem/upper cup and glued the bottom to the bottom cup/frame. To make sure the seal would allow movement, I smeared a film of silicone grease (rubber friendly/spark plug boot grease/disc brake post lube etc.) under the moving edge. This also helped it seal against dust. I did this in 1992 and the top one finally splt, this year, 1999. I've take in appart and it has sealed very well. I haven't had to buy a new head set...7 years, down-pours, races and many miles. The Lizard Skins products are sometimes your only choice, when you can't pull things appart, and they are definitely better than nothing. As far as the head set seals are concerned, the slice of inner tube cure is definitely a lot better than the Skins and well worth the time pull the steerer out. I rate the Skins 3-chilis | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Lcurve
a Weekend Warrior
from New Albany, IN Date Reviewed: October 12, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | Lapping Park | | Duration Product Used: | less than 1 month | | Strengths: | price materials | | Weaknesses: | lettering | | Bike Setup: | Trek 4000, OEM + other stuff | | Bottom Line: | This is a really great little doo-dad for the $2.50 that it ran me! I just returned from riding in a BUNCH of mud. I had mud everywhere! Up my nose, even. But on my headset? Nope. This little bugger stuck tight and kept my headset clean. I know I don't have the best headset on the market, but I may as well take the preventative maintenance and make it last as long as I can!If you see one, pick it up. What can it hurt?5 chilis, my man! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
fatpat
a Cross-Country Rider
from New Hampshire Date Reviewed: August 5, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | all of them | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | neat little bit of color to the front of your bike | | Weaknesses: | had to buy another one when my wife noticed it | | Bike Setup: | rigid | | Bottom Line: | Why does this scream cheap headset? I have over 1200 on my ride and I still don't know why people pay so much for a headset. Dia-Comp W/the lizard skin is so good I dont even know it' there. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
mtb_411
a Weekend Warrior
from Montreal Date Reviewed: July 24, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Bottom Line: | Good product. I, being a cheap bum, bough a rear shock boot, cut a strip off and now have a headset seal too. 2 for 1. Both work good and probably save me many maintenance woes. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Archie
a cross-country rider
from Broussard , La. Date Reviewed: January 3, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
Great product. It keeps everything nice and clean. I would suggest buying one for every bike you have. They cost about 3 bucks and you can pick them up just about anywhere. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Alex L
a cross-country rider
from HI Date Reviewed: November 8, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
This thing works quite well. Like others said, it's good cheap insurance. Yes, I have a cheap headset. The fools at my LBS put it on without asking me first when replacing my fork . I would have wanted a better one, but I couldn't have afforded it anyways. If I got a King I would still want the lizard skin seal. It stays on all the time once it's broken in. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Marc
a cross-country rider
from Australia Date Reviewed: July 22, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
If you have a spare $200 to spend on a new headset then you probably wouldn't need this. But most of us don't have that money when we want it, so spend $5 on this and keep the headset you have now in good condition until you can afford a new headset. Even on a good headset this keeps mud out, so that'll help. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Kevin Clark
a cross-country rider
from MI Date Reviewed: December 31, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I hear all of these guys saying how this seal do-jobber screams cheap headset. Is there such a thing as being to anal? I have a Chris King Headset and and LS seal. I have no complaints with either. The seal keeps the mud from caking on too the bottom cup. I dont think this thing will protect aginst water thou. I have had mine for two seasons now and am quite happy.
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Submitted by
BobC
a weekend warrior
from RI Date Reviewed: December 24, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Pretty good product for the price. Most bikes a headset it the last thing you want to replace if its workig ok. The seal helps to keep it that way. When you do overhaul your bike, replace it with a piece of old inner tube. Works even better. The LS seal does seem to stretch over time and may not stay in place. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Noah
a racer
from Appalachia Date Reviewed: December 18, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
Ok, time to re-evaluate. Sure, you could spend $100 and get a well sealed headset. Or, you can spend $3 and keep your mediocre headset lasting longer with less maintenance. Now, is that such a tough call? It keeps the grime out, the grease in, and lets you spend your money on parts that may do more for your bikes overall performance. Sure, it may scream I have a cheap headset, but who, except for complete idiots, does that really matter to? | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Doug
a racer
from Fort Collins, CO Date Reviewed: December 18, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I have to agree with one of the other reviews that this would not be needed if you have a headset that is sealed well. I have used the product for two years now on a diacompe aheadset(not sealed well) and it has performed great. I am still on the same (cheap)headset after two years and I am only now starting to see some play. The product keeps the mud and dirt out and is easy to install and remove for cleaning. I would give it five chilis but hey, it's just a headset seal;-) | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jimbo
a cross-country rider
from CA Date Reviewed: December 15, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
This product announces to the world I own a really cheap headset!!! Buy a King and you won't need a Lizard. The product is a bandaid for people who would rather jerry rig than get it right the first time. Bandaids work well though so I'm not gonna blame the product. I'll blame the people who need them since they obviously didn't think a good headset was worth the money. The FOOLS!!! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Sherman
a weekend warrior
from British Columbia, Canada Date Reviewed: December 15, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
This thing is alright. It can help if you have a real gritty headset and you need to keep the grit out. It by no means is waterproof so moisture can still get in. It looks ok but the part where the velcro holds it together doesn't seem to have any coverage on the headset. That is the part where most stuff gets splattered. | Overall Rating: |
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