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Giant Warp DS 1

MSRP $ 850.00
# of Reviews 18
Average Rating 3.39/5
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Submitted by Ivan a Cross Country Rider from Anacortes, WA, USA
Date Reviewed: July 29, 2008
Favorite Trail:local
Duration Product Used:More than 3 years
Price Paid: $1000.00
Purchased At:Jack's Bicicle
Weaknesses:Brakes wear out too fast and difficult to replace (even dealer did not do it). Just broke frame - rear fork in a weld. Possible manufacturer's fault - most of the pipe probably was not ever welded (fresh break only on two short lines)
Bottom Line:Would not buy this Warp DS-1 again, or if I would, so with much better and tougher components.
Value Rating:1Overall Rating:2

Submitted by Kyle Bray a Downhiller from Lake Tapps WA USA
Date Reviewed: December 27, 2006
Duration Product Used:1 Year
Price Paid: $300.00
Purchased At:the Bike Shop
Strengths:GOOD suspension, forgiving on rough landing, Takes corners well, Light!
Weaknesses:no SPV
Bottom Line:Awesome bike
Value Rating:4Overall Rating:4

Submitted by nick chat a Weekend Warrior from lake hughes ca us
Date Reviewed: November 13, 2006
Favorite Trail:lake hughes
Duration Product Used:1 Year
Price Paid: $300.00
Purchased At:craigslist
Strengths:everything is totaly great nothing has happened to it to make it sound like junk. it's light. great all around bike.
Weaknesses:brakes could be more sensative
Similar Products Used:FSR
Bike Setup:rockshox judy-avid disc brake
Bottom Line:excellent bike bottom line great
Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

Submitted by Caleb a Weekend Warrior from Stratford, Ontario, Canada
Date Reviewed: May 1, 2006
Favorite Trail:Some of the ones in London aren't bad
Duration Product Used:6 months
Price Paid: $1000.00
Purchased At:Ziggy's Cycles
Strengths:- Most things on the bike were still in tact. I had gotten a tuneup and replaced the shifters, cables, chain, and grips. This was last week
Weaknesses:- The cranks were pretty crappy actualy, after close to a year's wear they had gotten weak, I could tell when riding it
Similar Products Used:- none, again only supercycles
Bike Setup:- pretty much stock except for those small components mentione above
Bottom Line:- Well, it's me again, I had submitted a review last year (which can be seen above) and guess what! MY BIKE GOT STOLENT TWO NIGHTS AGO!!!!
- I'm so mad, I really hate this world now. I had worked so hard to put money away for it and some punk just came by my work and cut my lock off. Yes, it's partialy my fault for having a not so good lock and partialy my work's fault for not really monitering the cameras on a daily basis. Whatever, I'm just pissed right now, sorry for wasting space

*** One tip! Don't skimp out on a lock, and make sure you get a good quality one that you know will be hard enoough for someone to be noticed if they try to break through. I'm looking into buying another bike now, next time the same mistake will not be made. Have fun riding all and remember, guard your bike. As my teacher says, locks are meant for honnest people to stay out, the ones who want to get in will find a way in. Cheers.
Value Rating:5Overall Rating:4

Submitted by Colin a Weekend Warrior from Issaquah, WA
Date Reviewed: July 4, 2005
Duration Product Used:6 months
Price Paid: $660.00
Purchased At:Center Cycle
Strengths:Looks cool
Rides nice
With new tires the rear grips the ground nicely
Takes descent hits
Weaknesses:Fork blows, locks up and doesn't budge. Cupple hard days of constant riding later is semi soft again
Rear shock bottoms out to easy
Cheep rims bend easy, not enough to effect anything, just a slight wobble
No grip on pedals
Chain likes to snap
Similar Products Used:Anything close in price
Bike Setup:Marzocchi Drop Off Triple, Maxxis Mobsters/Minions, hopefully soon 5th Element and new pedals.
Bottom Line:Nice beginner bike. Great value. If get it cheap, hard not to, drop some new forks on it before you leave the parking lot. Most of the other components are great. You get a little noise from the crank set when your in first but who cares. Its a nice bike for an outstanding price.
Value Rating:5Overall Rating:4

Submitted by Steve a Cross Country Rider from San Diego, Ca
Date Reviewed: July 2, 2005
Favorite Trail:alot
Duration Product Used:1 Year
Price Paid: $850.00
Strengths:Very solid bike, Good brakes , Frame is well built
Weaknesses:crankset sucks on it. keeps falling apart.
Bottom Line:It a decent bike , but for the money I would look at some other make.
Value Rating:3Overall Rating:3

Submitted by Harold a Cross Country Rider from Chicago, IL
Date Reviewed: June 26, 2005
Favorite Trail:Palos Hills
Duration Product Used:2 Years
Price Paid: $1000.00
Purchased At:Bob's
Strengths:Inexpensive and still fairly well equipped. A little bit on the heavy side, but you can hang a few good/lighter components on this frame without feeling like you've wasted money.
Weaknesses:The front fork broke in two pieces during my first season. The manufacturer fixed it. The front fork adjustments are plastic and break easily/often but the dealer replaced the first 4 knobs. Coil spring is made for someone who only weighs 160 lbs. I'm 6'0" 105 lbs. and had to get a stronger spring.
Similar Products Used:I've used quite a few.
Bike Setup:Stock set up + swapped out the following parts: Mavic F219 Wheels mated with Shimano XT hubs, MonketLight XC riser bar, XTR Chain, Stronger coil spring, Shimano M545 pedals, WTB light weight seat.
Bottom Line:The bike is really nice, but not meant for big jumps. I've taken it easy on it and gotten by with only a broken front fork. (manufacturer fixed it for free) Now that I'm a much better rider than I was several years ago, since this bike weighs in at about 30 lbs., I may sell it and build a bike in the 23 lb. range. All-in-all it's a good bike, meant for aggressive cross country riding, but not big jumps. It's good as a beginning bike, but as you improve your skills you may want a lighter, faster, sleeker bike.
Value Rating:5Overall Rating:3

Submitted by Anthony Stockwell a Downhiller from Spencerport N.Y
Date Reviewed: June 15, 2005
Favorite Trail:Trion park and Snowshoe Mountain
Duration Product Used:1 Year
Price Paid: $1000.00
Purchased At:The Bike Zone
Strengths:The frame is very durable and I love the Avid disc brakes
Weaknesses:The handelbars suck. So do the seat and the tires.
Similar Products Used:Raleigh 3.0
Bike Setup:Profile Design 3 inch rise bars. Continental Gravity pro tires. Lizard Skin. Serfas Seat. New rear Shock. Stiffer fork springs.Shimano crank.
Bottom Line:This is a great bike for the money and can take a lot of abuse. It is perfect for dirt jumping to cross country riding.
Value Rating:4Overall Rating:5

Submitted by Kyle Jones a from Thousand Oaks
Date Reviewed: March 12, 2005
Favorite Trail:I make my own...
Duration Product Used:6 months
Price Paid: $850.00
Purchased At:NP bike shop
Strengths:light,good paint,color,cheap, tires work well w/ dirt, bars and stem are made of thick metal(strong), pedals are cheap but they work!
Weaknesses:You get what you pay for,bottom bracket snapped into eight peices!,frame snapped after a few months, forks froze solid,rims cracked & flat spots, tires are great if you like changing pinch-flats, brakes are weak
Similar Products Used:giant vt, ironhorse hollowpoint, univega ds950, weyless xp
Bike Setup:well everything is aftermarket because everything broke!
Bottom Line:Don't use for freeride, it isn't made for it. It actuallly might work for XC riders, except the forks(they change with the weather,soft when it's hot, freeze when it's cold.
Value Rating:1Overall Rating:2

Submitted by Francisco a Weekend Warrior from Miami
Date Reviewed: December 16, 2004
Duration Product Used:1 Year
Strengths:Its a perfect bike to start riding, specially for the price
Weaknesses:The frame is weak and heavy, crankset needs to be upgraded to an LX and the bike will work best.
Similar Products Used:None
Bike Setup:all LX components, EXR Pro Fork
Bottom Line:I'm not crazy freerider or a very heavy person (155lbs) and broke this frame on the thinest tube (just above the cranks)... So if you are thinking this bike would work for semi-serious use just save more money and get something better. You will have to upgrade components anyways...

Warantee was ok, but had to pay 130 to switch parts.
Value Rating:3Overall Rating:2

Submitted by Kyle Jones a Racer from T.O, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: August 26, 2004
Favorite Trail:Street
Duration Product Used:6 months
Price Paid: $600.00
Purchased At:Newbury Park Bike Shop
Strengths:RIDES NICELY
Weaknesses:GEOMETRY, THE FRAME SNAPPED! WHAT A PIECE! hORRIBLE DESIGN. I JUMPED UP A CURB AND THE TUBE ABOVE THE CRANKS SNAPPED!
Similar Products Used:NONE
Bike Setup:NOTHING STOCK, EVERYTHING UPGRADED
Bottom Line:IT BROKE! IT MADE ME SO MAD WHEN IT BROKE THAT I HAD TO TELL SOMEONE. I AM 15 AND WEIGH 130LBS... AND IT BROKE. IF YOU ARE A WEEKEND WARRIOR IT MIGHT WORK FOR YOU. FREERIDE, NO. NOW I HAVE TO PAY 150 BUCKS JUST TO SWITCH OVER THE PARTS TO MY NEW ONE. I HAD SAVED THAT MONEY FOR NEW CRANKS. WHAT A BUMMER!
Value Rating:1Overall Rating:2

Submitted by Kim a Weekend Warrior from Los Angels, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: August 2, 2004
Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
Price Paid: $776.00
Purchased At:Bicology
Strengths:well equiped for price. I've had it for a weekend, so not much else known.
Weaknesses:geometry. for us shorter people who bought the bike because it's the smalles frame, when you shorten the seat post to the correct height, it reduces the stand over height, because of the sharp angle of the top tube. I'm 5'6" and when i jump off seat, my crotch is only 1" above angle. I had to move the seat back as far as possible to increas this standover height.
Bike Setup:stock
Bottom Line:I have to see how it rides still, but am concerned about the height. I think Giant should come out with a 14" model for those of us who are shorter. I like it the most out of all I tested at the store, so I guess I can't complain.
Value Rating:5Overall Rating:3

Submitted by Caleb a Weekend Warrior from Stratford, Ontario, Canada
Date Reviewed: July 7, 2004
Favorite Trail:none yet, still exploring
Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
Price Paid: $1400.00
Purchased At:Ziggy's Cycles
Strengths:-Frame
- Avid Disks
- TAKES A BEATING
- Rockshox Fork Judy is great
Weaknesses:- The dial on the fork for the adjustable travel is too easy to break, its ok though, my bike shop covered it.
- Oh and i dont know if this is normal but i was riding and my bolts from the disks fell off, after a ride i noticed loosness and there were 2 out of 8 left, and those were already finger loose! Bike shop covered that too but i will locktight them and tighten them more often :)
- Seat (WTB Stock) was very hard on my ass, i had to change back to my Canadian tire Schwinn seat and it was more confortable.
Similar Products Used:None other than supercycle ):
Bike Setup:All stock except seat changed to one from my other bike
Cateye light on front and red blinky light on back... Also a PROTECTOR mud fender which saved my back from flying mud on all the rides
Bottom Line:Bottom line is this, if you are a beginner, just getting into the sport or want an upgrade worthy bike at a decent price, than GET THIS BIKE! Forget all of the other people who say the fork sucks or the frame is too light... I just arrived from a week and a half trip from New brunswick and Quebec and rode the hell out of it with my friend in all of the trails, trust me this thing can take a beating. From dirt jumps, to rocky full speed downhill to 3 foot deep puddles, the thing is running like a charm with regular maintenance. For my first real bike, i am in love with it. Go with the Warp DS1, it is worth the extra bucks over the DS2 thanks to the better fork and the Avid disk brakes, i need to say no more.
Value Rating:5Overall Rating:5

Submitted by Eric Provost a Downhiller from London, Ontario
Date Reviewed: June 1, 2004
Favorite Trail:Buckwollow, Bracebridge, ON
Duration Product Used:2 Years
Price Paid: $850.00
Purchased At:Two Wheels
Strengths:i love this bike! well at least the frame. i have beat'n this thing up and the only thing that i have had to replace is the bottom bearing. i do lot of x-country, play park and down hilling and this frame taken a lick'n and kept in tick'n as the say'n goes. On top of all that the supension is great, lots of it and very abjustable, plus it look freak'n cool, nice design!
Weaknesses:FORKS, get new ones! the shocks on it are good for XC but really get worked on big drops and downhill rocky trials.
the bike is a bit heavy but it is good for building more leg strenght, look at the positive!
Similar Products Used:Specilized, Trekk
Bike Setup:I went to hydro discs and Boxxer forks, thicker rims and 2.4"tires for lots of softness in the bumps and drops. works well.
Bottom Line:YOU CAN'T BEAT THE PRICE FOR WHAT YOU GET! even stock you can go hard and have a ton of fun. i am a pretty heavy guy and ride fairly hard and tech. trails and the bike hasn't failed me yet.
Value Rating:5Overall Rating:4

Submitted by Remus Dabasol a Cross Country Rider from Los Angeles, CA USA
Date Reviewed: May 20, 2004
Favorite Trail:Gabrielino (JPL Trail)
Duration Product Used:3 months
Price Paid: $850.00
Purchased At:Jone II Bicycles
Strengths:Excellent beginners bike off the store shelves. Axles bearings ride with almost no resistance and its seals keep the debris out well. WTB Weirwolf tires have insane grip cornering loose ground with ease and confidence. Front Shocks absorb bumps and drops creating a comfortably reasonable ride.
Weaknesses:Avid Brakes are just decent. Crankset makes funny noise at highest gear and looks tacky with the chainguard. Frame looks great and takes hard hits, but its weight is on the heavy side.
Similar Products Used:2003 Giant DS3, Peugeot Road Bike, Pacific 5000, Huffy mountain bike, and earliest BMX.
Bike Setup:Upgraded to Hayes HFX-9 Hydraulic brakes, Shimano Deore crankset and Shimano SPD pedals. Cut off Excess seat post. I particularly like to ride with my settings at a long travel setting for my shocks, although I set my rear shocks to the 4" travel setting since I'm a light 150 lbs.
Bottom Line:Giant makes excellent bikes for their value. You get what you pay for and when you have the money for it you can really get a exceptional bike from Giant. The Warp DS1 is an excellent beginners mountain bike although some components can use upgrading, but if in that case you might as well put in the cash to buy the next level up.
Value Rating:4Overall Rating:3

Submitted by Brad Swancutt a Weekend Warrior from Rochester
Date Reviewed: May 6, 2004
Favorite Trail:Whitewater
Duration Product Used:Less than 1 month
Price Paid: $900.00
Purchased At:Honest Bike Shop
Strengths:The DS1 has a superior fluid formed frame, that is worth the weight. The addition of the disc brakes on the DS1 versus the DS2 creates a large gap between the two bikes. Rides very nice. The adjustable 4-5" travel in the rear suspension is critical.
Weaknesses:I experienced difficulties with the rear spokes coming loose after a few days of riding, along with some play in the crank creating a noticeable noise. The manufacturer's rims are significantly weaker than replaceable ones. The tires don't fit the rim perfect and creates a slightly noticeable wiggle.
Bike Setup:I prefer my bike setup rather stiff...I adjusted rear shock to the 4" travel, and tightened the ring a few turn clockwise creating yet a stiffer ride. When I do make it to my offroad destination, I loosen it up a little bit. I also prefer to adjust my front travel as high as it goes.
Bottom Line:This bike is better than any "walmart" bike, but I have noticed that I have to be careful as to how hard I am on the bike. The bike is very flashy and gets the ladies attention! Put a few stickers on it to give it a little character. I have took this bike off of 3-5 foot drops and bike seems to recover alright. I have done some pretty crazy downhill racing with some bodies, and I don't have a problem keeping up to there Specialized bikes, such as the BigHit(which is specifically a downhill bike).
Value Rating:2Overall Rating:3

Submitted by Ronnie Dobbs a Cross Country Rider from SLO, CA
Date Reviewed: March 30, 2004
Duration Product Used:6 months
Price Paid: $850.00
Purchased At:Fart's Cyclery, SLO
Strengths:Good for the entry-level dual suspension rider. Being the fact that it's a tank, it'll mash over just about anything, and the fact that you can adjust the rear travel is an added touch.
Weaknesses:The factory bottom bracket is crap, the bike as a whole is a little on the heavy side, weighing in at close to 37 lbs. I'm not a fan of Rock Shox, so the fork had to go. I feel like I"m constantly maintaining it, and if there were a scale for reliability, I think it'd be towards the bottom.
Similar Products Used:This is the first dually that I've owned, but have ridden many.
Bike Setup:Ritchey risers, Mazocchi DJ 1 front fork (love it), Deore compnents (blow), Avid mechanical discs (8" front, 6" rear), Tioga Factory DH tires, 2.3" f, 2.1" r.
Bottom Line:
This bike took a lot of getting used to initially, for it's a lot of bike to handle. It was my first full-sus, and during the 6 mos that I've owned it, I've realized it's limitataions. I'd reccommend it for the weekend worrior who likes to hit it somewhat big, but for someone who spends 15-20 hrs a week in the saddle, it's sorely lacking in the 'all-around' department, the first drawback being the weight. The swing-arm/frame attachment started out prety solid, but has progressively gotten looser, and keeps on doing so with repeated tightening, and I feel like I'm fighting the bike more often these days. It's not nearly as pleasureable to ride as it once was.
Value Rating:3Overall Rating:3

Submitted by tolimaz bike rider a Weekend Warrior from Quebec, canada
Date Reviewed: March 24, 2004
Favorite Trail:Vallée pruneau
Duration Product Used:1 Year
Purchased At:Laplante vélo sport (drummondville)
Strengths:The frame is kind of good for the begeners but, I cracked the 2002 frame, that's why I've got a 2004 frame for free ! On 2004, the shock is longer (7,5in eye-to-eye) giving 4 or 5 in of travel. That's good bcz you can upgrade your shock in quality because of the shock lengh! Warp ds1 is pretty good jumper and verry stiff ends technical DH bike
Weaknesses:cheap frame, can't affrod méga big drop but can handle 6 footer !
Similar Products Used:2002 giant warp ds1 frame
Bike Setup:marzocchi EXR 2002
MPH3 giant's hydro disc brakes
shimano deore
WTB moto raptor 2,4 tires
Bottom Line:I love that bike but I'll upgrade to DH frame and fork soon !
Value Rating:5Overall Rating:4






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