Submitted by
el ray
a Cross Country Rider
from someplace in the midwest Date Reviewed: May 24, 2003
Favorite Trail:
grandview lake
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$700.00
Purchased At:
ebay
Strengths:
mad-figgin' light frame...
Weaknesses:
scratches easily
Similar Products Used:
'98 fisher joshua x1
Bike Setup:
judy race; mostly xtr or high-end stuff - I bought some dude's project bike so I can only speak for the frame...
Bottom Line:
This frame is so light and stiff and strong and beautiful and fast... the heavy hydracoil fork that's on mine makes the dang thing so front-heavy that big-air means dirt sandwich -- don't throw some heavy coil fork on it; buy it stock or give her an SID and you will be in heaven... She may be a lightening bolt but she's not for everyone - only those who want a screaming-fast race ready bike should apply. This hardtail is stiff and uncompromising...
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Submitted by
martin ###
a Cross Country Rider
from melbourne,vic,auatralia Date Reviewed: December 21, 2002
Favorite Trail:
'the track' and brimmy
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$1050.00
Purchased At:
bike store
Strengths:
i love this bike,it has many positive things about it. the coponets chosen by giant are all good
Weaknesses:
the headset gas a dam creaky noise in it
Similar Products Used:
atx 750 '96
Bike Setup:
fully xtr drive chain,the rest stock
Bottom Line:
i have and i will stick with giant my whole life beacuse their products are very trust worthy and you can depend on giant any time! i got a good price too
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Submitted by
mike larocca
a Weekend Warrior
from kansas city mo Date Reviewed: May 25, 2002
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1000.00
Purchased At:
river mkt cyclery
Strengths:
I love the climbing.Handles real nice I love the shocks they handle real nice on the trails
Weaknesses:
I need stronger legs
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
stock I put a rock shock seat post on it
Bottom Line:
nice ride i think ill keep this one for a while Its light weight helps me on long climes.this is the secont mountain bike i have owened and i feel real smooth on it
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Submitted by
justin cafferty
a Downhiller
from moscow idaho Date Reviewed: October 20, 2001
Favorite Trail:
bald mountain
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$180.00
Purchased At:
paradise creek
Strengths:
first off i should say that i bought this as a frame only option, and built the bike from the ground up. it's definetely light...has cool looking paint job too
Weaknesses:
this frame creakes and snaps at me constantly. May be because I didn't use an integrated headset, but sound seems to be coming from all areas (cranks, headset, seatpost, etc.)
Similar Products Used:
first high class hardtail i've owned. I generally ride my fsr with marzocchi mcr, sun mammoth rims, etc...
Bike Setup:
marzocchi z3 qr 20, sun mammoth rims, race face stem and seat post, prodigy bars, oury grips, xt lx drivetrain, etc...
Bottom Line:
wasn't really the frame I wanted to buy, because I do a lot of trials riding on it. I'm not much for cross country, but that seems to be what this frame is suited best for. THe price was right, and I'm a tall guy who needs a big frame (21.5"), so i had to settle with this frame. Now i can understand what many of you are saying about the frame being weak, for mine creakes constantly, and it does feel and sound like there's nothing under you, but I have not had any problems with the durability aspects of this frame so far. of course I have a zocchi on front that soaks up a lot of the hits, and the mammoth rims are so strong that little of the stress gets to the frame. still, I have my doubts...I weigh a lot, and only time will tell if this frame will hold up. still, I have a hard time believeing you guys who say that you can bend the frame with your fingers. I take five foot drops and ride trials, and everynow and then I take this bike out for a downhill run as well. If I haven't broke this frame yet, with my 230 lb. fat ass, then I see no reason why anyone else would either. maybe you guys need to learn how to work on your bikes and keep up on maintanence. anyhow, this frame has satisfied me so far, at least until i get the cash to buy a nice dual slalom frame. value was exceptional, overall rating is high as well (with the exception of the creaks, which I've learned to live with).
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Submitted by
ol dirty
a
from anywhere the military sends him Date Reviewed: August 8, 2001
Favorite Trail:
still like the sick ones
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Bottom Line:
This is an update to a post from over a year ago. This rig still rocks! Only had to replace the bb and the left shifter so far. Not too shabby! I still love this bike like I did on the first date. Serious machine for the money. I still give it a five flamin' people who try to run me down.
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Submitted by
Jon Downey
a Cross Country Rider
from Norfolk, NE USA Date Reviewed: June 29, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Yellowbanks
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$900.00
Purchased At:
Andrew BIcycle and Fitness
Strengths:
frame, brakes, fork
Weaknesses:
chainstay/brake assembly
Similar Products Used:
Mongoose, Diamondback, Raleigh, Schwinn
Bike Setup:
mostly stock, platform pedals, SDG Bel-Air saddle, changing to an Easton riser bar
Bottom Line:
Nice ride, Giant's paint seems easily chipped, Koski saddle isn't real comfortable. Very good deal for the money. Handles great, climbs good and decends well.
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Submitted by
William Murray
a
from Sacramento Date Reviewed: May 1, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Stair Gaps
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$160.00
Purchased At:
Local Shop
Strengths:
Cheap,Light,srong
Weaknesses:
dents easily Intergrated head set
Similar Products Used:
CrackandFail Kona Specialized
Bike Setup:
xt xtr z1 x-fly hope disk king hubs ryno lite rims easton carbon bars thompson post
Bottom Line:
It is a great bike for the money. People like to talk crap about giant bikes but I usually pass them on xc rides. It rides like a bike that costs way more. Pretty much the same geometry as their full suspension bike of the year!
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Submitted by
Dave
a Cross Country Rider
from Denver, CO Date Reviewed: April 16, 2001
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
light! strong for intended use (so far....) fast, climbs well
Weaknesses:
none so far....
Similar Products Used:
steel Kona Explosif, Titan ti, ancient Diamond Back
Bike Setup:
medium frams size XMO englund air fork, integrated Cane Creek hs, Ritchey WCS stem, Titec 118 bar, Thomson post, Flite seat. ESP 9.0sl shifters and rear, XT front. action tec ti bb and kooka cranks, kore pedals, avid 1.9 and 7.0 levers and brakes. nuke proof hubs, 15/16 spokes , alloy nips on bonty valiants. fire xc pro 1.8s some ti and aluminum bits here and there. 20.5 pounds total
Bottom Line:
I haven't been on it long, but some hard rides in the last few weeks, now that trails are opening have made me happy. Some good long rides around Fruita; rocky rough stuff. No durability issues so far. Picked up the frame for $325 including shipping from Frankford bike off the web. Comes with headtube adapters if you want to use a non integrated headset.
Hey, it's a 3 pound frame for fast xc riding/racing. if you're doing urban hardcore or trials stuff, of course you'll probably f*%k up your frame. For such a light frame, it's only going to take so much. my first aluminum frame, so the jury is still out. way stiff compared to my ti or steel bikes.
5 on value, since i only bought the frame, then built it up. 4 on overall, because i've only been on it for a little while.
if you are looking for a fast, stiff xc ride/racer, and not going for big huge stunts, go for it!
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Submitted by
JEFF NEVER BUY A GIANT
a Weekend Warrior
from ONTARIO Date Reviewed: April 6, 2001
Favorite Trail:
URBAN ASSUALT
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1600.00
Purchased At:
BRUANS
Strengths:
RACE FACE CRANKS AND RELIABLE JUDY FORK
Weaknesses:
FRAME, BROKE IT AND GIANT WOULD NOT GIVE ME A NEW ONE. THIER WARRENTY IS SHORT ENOUGH (5 YEARS) AND THEY CANT GIVE ME A NEW FRAME AFTER 6 MONTHS. WHATS WITH THAT?
Similar Products Used:
C-DALE ROCKY
Bike Setup:
STOCK BESIDES THE TIRES
Bottom Line:
DECENT COMPONENTS, BUT IT HAS CONVINCED ME NEVER TO BUY ANOTHER GIANT(BROKEN FRAME), ONLY RECOMMENDED FOR LIGHT OFF ROADING.
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Submitted by
Jesse
a Racer
from Utah Date Reviewed: April 2, 2001
Favorite Trail:
anything moab
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1200.00
Purchased At:
Franks bike shop
Strengths:
great value, Brakes work awsome once adjusted correctly. In contradiction to other reviews, I ride about 50 mi. a week and have never had a prob w/ frnt. derailur or the Mavic rims. Also I am not easy on the bike, its almost got as many scratches as paint left on the frame.
Weaknesses:
This bike has more snap crackles and pops than a bowl of rice crispies. The stock BB must be replaced. I have come to the conclusion it's the frame and have gotten used to it talking to me during our rides.
Similar Products Used:
older Klein Rascal, GT Avalanch (very solid though a little heavier.)
Bike Setup:
Stock except BB and pedals.
Bottom Line:
This bike is a great value. It weighs in at 25 w/ discs which is lighter than competitively priced models. Personaly I wish I would have saved a little more money and gotten a more solid bike. I have never felt like I got ripped of at this price.
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Submitted by
Stephen Cominski
a Racer
from Seattle Date Reviewed: March 27, 2001
Stock Saddle, Grips, Prodigy Post, Stem, Bars(Based on weight)
Similar Products Used:
None, but I did have a 1994 Trek Singletrack with a true temper frame, does that count for anything? Didn't think so.
Bike Setup:
Steock except for Pedro's grips, Selle Italia Tri-metric flight in black and yellow, shockboard fenders f/r when it's nasty out.
Bottom Line:
This is the 2001 model, first off, but there isn't a line on the site for it yet so I'll lump this in with the reviews for the 2000's. All I can say is the bike is amazing!! First off, I'[m new to nine-speed, but I have to say I am a convert. Here in the Northwest, you have to climb if you want to ride, and this bike is ready to climb all day if that's what you need to do, both from the seating position, as well as a very smooth rolling hutchinson tire set, and excellent acceleration from the bike itself. I attribute that to the ultra light frame. The bike feels lighter than it's 26.5lbs, but it is also about two pounds lighter than the rig it replaced, so I'm happy with it no matter what right now. Now, I have only had the bike for a week or so now, but this morning at eight a.m. we went out and field tested my new ride at full tilt through Tiger Mtn's technical singletrack. Let me just tell you, if you are looking for a performance enhancement for your new bike, look no further. The brakes are just what I have been dreaming of for years, they run silent- (anyone who tells you otherwise had a cross eyed monkey install thier brakes!), and are so powerful that you will never find yourself wishing for more brake ever again. You can go faster, brake later, and with more controllability than any v-brakes ever made, believe it. These things are the sliced bread people tell you they are, I can't speak for the other discs out there , but Hayes are certainly all if not more than they are cracked up to be. The wheelset is dope as hell, and you know I like the black spokes! So far, I haven't put a drop of air into them, and I'm still waiting to see them leak. Naysayers for tubeless won't find a sympathetic ear here. Only the race season this year will tell for sure though. Overall, I expect a lot of reliability out of this bike, and will be rolling up to like thirty starts this year, aside from training and commuting, so I will let you all know if anything changes. For now though, this is a heck of a lot of bang for the buck, I say that both the tubeless wheelset and the disc brakes make this bike much more than the sum of it's parts. Check it out if you can, and if you ride in the wet, you want these brakes, trust me!
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Submitted by
Chris
a
from Melbourne, Australia Date Reviewed: March 22, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Paul's Range Plummet
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1500.00
Purchased At:
CBD cycles
Strengths:
Light and fast, SID shocks, Raceface Crankset, Time pedals, Hayes brakes (need I say more..)
Weaknesses:
cheapo creaky seatpost, rear derailleur hits frame even with a lizard skin
Similar Products Used:
Giant Rincon
Bike Setup:
Standard apart from running longer travel SID 100s and Hutchinson Python Gold tyres.
Bottom Line:
This bike is fantastic. I've heard a lot of complaints about the frame being to weak, prone to dents, etc.. and yes mine does have a few dings under the BB, but it's super light so there must be a trade-off. I've raced my bike for a half a season now and no problems yet.. even the reasonable cheap LX BB has given no worries at all. The Time pedals have been great in the mud (million times better than my crappy old SPD's) and the Hutchinson rubber makes this bike roll even faster. The extra wide handle bars offset the longer travel forks so even for XC racing the new geometry is good. Bottom Line - Get this bike if you want a fast, value for money hardtail, forget this bike if you have the urge to spend lots of cash. This bike rocks!!!
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Submitted by
Frank
a Cross Country Rider
from College Station, Tx, USA Date Reviewed: March 1, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Rocky Hill
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1250.00
Purchased At:
Aggieland Cycling
Strengths:
Only aluminum frame lighter is much more expensive Schwinn Homegrown, Hayes H.Discs could stop a Trane, SID XC, good component mix, Time pedals a blessing in the mud!
Weaknesses:
Rear Derailleur hits chainstay in high gears, chain chips paint even through LizSkin, chaepo LX BB caused massive crank creaking(upgraded to XT when LX failed, rides much quieter and smoother), Deore shifters on a $1500 bike?(haven't had the shifting and adjustment problems that my buddy with the XT's has had, though), low bottom bracket height, durability of superlight alum. frame a concern
Similar Products Used:
1996 Raleigh M50 (campus cruiser)
Bike Setup:
All stock except Lizard Skin on chainstay
Bottom Line:
I would buy this bike all over again. I have loved every second of riding this bike, except falling over before clipping out of my Times. If you are in the market, this is a fast, comfortable, billy-goat of a bike. I routinely bottom my SID, but everything is still running true. Contrary to common experience, I have yet to dent my frame despite falling over directly on a 2'-round rock. Hayes brakes keep me stopping even in the sickest of mud and slop, if they are a little noisy(who cares?) Definitely not a freeride/downhill bike, but you can't beat it for twisty singletrack. Get one, but don't pay MSRP.
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Submitted by
Brad Ross
a Cross Country Rider
from Birmingham, MI Date Reviewed: February 22, 2001
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$730.00
Purchased At:
KLM Bike and Fitness
Strengths:
amazing bang for the buck, super lightweight frame, awesome components, fast, room to upgrade
Weaknesses:
comes stock with no name seatpost and deore shifters
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
Sid Xc, Hayes Disks, Thomson seatpost, Xt shifters, Xt bb, Easton e70 handlebar, Race Face cranks, Time alium pedals
Bottom Line:
I employee purchased this last year at my bike shop and it was a sweet buy. People say the frame is like a tin can, but ive taken some hard dives and have barely scratched the thing. It rides fast, climbs fast, and is a completely solid ride.
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Submitted by
Patrice
a Weekend Warrior
from Austin, TX Date Reviewed: January 18, 2001
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1180.00
Purchased At:
Cycle 360 Bicycles
Strengths:
Frame, SID Shocks, Hayes Discs, Handling, Flashy looks
Weaknesses:
heavy handlebars, seatpost and stem
Similar Products Used:
1999 Sugar 3
Bike Setup:
EA 50 Riser bars, and Michelin Wildgripper Tires
Bottom Line:
I wanted a hard-tail, as a second bike to my Sugar 3, to use on shorter rides and because I like the acceleration and climbing of hard-tails. With the Wildgripper tires, the Giant is glued to the turns and handles better than my Sugar, which is a very high complement! The brakes are powerful and you get incredible acceleration and super confidident handling from the stiff frame. The bike has a few cheezy parts on it, but that is to keep the price down. This bike begs you to ride it FAST!! I turned into a speed-freak on my first ride on it and crashed as a result! I HIGHLY reccomend this bike. Flame-on...5 turds!
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Submitted by
Colin
a Weekend Warrior
from Phoenix, AZ Date Reviewed: December 29, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Dynamite and Pima
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1000.00
Strengths:
Awsome frame weight, Rockshock SID's, Time pedals, Raceface cranks, Titec headset, Hayes disc brakes.
Weaknesses:
Frame does ding easily, Time pedals are great but hard to get used to. LX/XT needs upgraded to make the most of this bike. WTB tires are terrible for desert riding. Disc brakes also don't like the dust but work great if you don't mind some ringing.
Bike Setup:
To new to start switching things yet, I want to get some use and initial wear and tear on the original components before I start switching stuff around.
Bottom Line:
Great bike, exceptional deal. A hard bike to ride in the desert but fun once you know how.
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Submitted by
Norm
a
from Rockaway, NJ Date Reviewed: December 14, 2000
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Weaknesses:
Check bearing adjustments. Caliper on rear not shimmed for optimal adjustment range. Mavis 223 rims are racing rims and quite fragile. Check trueness and spokes often.
Bottom Line:
This is an update to a previous post. Since then I managed to tweek my rear rim, the Mavic 223 disc. It broke at the weld which I interpreted to be a defect. After consulting my LBS they are confident I hit a rock at the worst spot on the rime which caused the weld to crack. Since there is a shim inside I an going to continue to ride on it. I also noticed that the rear axle was hard to turn. After taking it apart, I found that the lock knuts were tightened incorrecly which put side pressure on the cartidge bearings. I adjusted and made sure that the axle protruded out equally on both sides with no load against the bearings. When I installed the wheel, now my Disc brakes were out of alignment. I could not get the horizontal adjustment necessary to center the disc. I had to add washers between the bike frame and caliper mount.
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Submitted by
Scott
a Cross Country Rider
from Morehead, Kentucky USA Date Reviewed: November 19, 2000
Favorite Trail:
sheltowee trace trail
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1350.00
Strengths:
Hayes brakes, light frame, sweet SID fork, Time pedals
Weaknesses:
frame dents very easily, low BB height, and the saddle really rubs you raw until you can dig up the cash to replace it.
Similar Products Used:
Giant Iguana
Bike Setup:
'00 Selle Itallia gel flite saddle, Thompson post, Race face taperlock BB, Bontrager race light bar, Panaracer XC fire pros (yellow side walls), Oury grips, XT cassette and shifters. 24 lbs
Bottom Line:
Nice ride for the cash. what really swayed me was the combo of the SID fork, flawless Time pedals, excellent Hayes disc brakes, and the super light frame to make up for the added weight of the discs. This is somewhat of a step-up bike for me in that i really dont expect the frame to last much more than next season. I already have multiple dents in my down tube from rocks being thrown up by the front tire (some of which are very large). Giant had to sacrifice some durability for the reduced weight. After next season i hope to junk the frame and put the parts on a lightspeed!
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Submitted by
Norm
a Cross Country Rider
from Rockaway, NJ Date Reviewed: November 3, 2000
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1400.00
Purchased At:
Bike Haven
Strengths:
value, light, stiff, agile
Weaknesses:
Creaky cranks (only one side greased) Clicks in frame (seat post shim needs grease) Tires not the best.
Bike Setup:
added lizards skins to fork taped chain stays cut 1 inch off each side of bars
Bottom Line:
A good deal. Most noticeable is the disc brakes which are Hayes brand. The bike is light and responsive but very stiff. I also have a FS but wanted something to improve my technical skills on. Its like the equivalent of a VW, you feel the trail.
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Submitted by
Alexander
a Cross Country Rider
from Folsom, Ca Date Reviewed: October 9, 2000
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1200.00
Strengths:
See my original review (9/4/00)
Weaknesses:
Ok, found one, minor one though:
* bottom bracket/crank is quite low, if you do a lot of technical rides on narrow trails with lots of roots and rocks gotta be careful not to hit them.
Bike Setup:
stock, lizard skin got added to the frame - otherwise chain would destroy the paint. desided against the boots for the fork, on the next shock service getting the shower caps added instead.
Bottom Line:
I've been riding this bike 2/3 times a week and will confirm my original impression of the bike. Feels bulletproof. Other then the low position of the bracket/crank no complaints. Will update at the end of the season or next year! BUY THIS BIKE! NO MATCH FOR THE BUCK!
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Submitted by
Rob Galaviz
a Weekend Warrior
from Shelton, WA Date Reviewed: October 2, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1100.00
Purchased At:
lbs
Strengths:
Well, the parts spec is great, minus the wack a$$ bottom bracket, and seat post.
Weaknesses:
bottom bracket, seat post
Similar Products Used:
Balance AL550
Bike Setup:
Stock: Hayes hydros, SID XC, Ya Know the stuff it came with.
Bottom Line:
Okay, the handle bars seemed wide at first, but after my first real ride they were great in climbing. The bottom bracket was not tightened properly and was creaking like a big dog after 14 miles of fun, but that has more to do with the lbs assembly and not the bike. Hayes brakes rule, ya got to set 'em up a little, make sure stuff is centered. Takes maybe 5 minutes. The tires were good, they packed up with good Capitol Forest mud, but still provided traction. Oh, if anything was real sucky it is the grips. My hand were numbed out bad after about a mile. That is minor stuff people. I looked at a GT avalanche for $900, and thought for $200 more this was a much better deal. Don't overlook this bike , I ride mostly in Capitol Forest here in Washington State, and climbing is a big deal. This baby climbs great, and descends great.
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Submitted by
Michael Kirk
a Racer
from Kennett Square, PA, USA Date Reviewed: September 21, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Middle Run, Delaware
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$700.00
Purchased At:
LBS
Strengths:
Light weight frame, extremely responsive, great hill climber
Weaknesses:
Hard (aluminum) ride feel, sound of rocks bouncing off of frame.
Similar Products Used:
Cannondale M800
Bike Setup:
Manitou SX TI, Hope XC3 & C2 disc brakes, Titec Ti stem, Easton C2T bar, Titec Carbon Bar ends, WTB Headset, Time Atac Pedals, Action Tec Ti BB, Hope Bulb/Velocity Aeroheat wheelset, USE seat post.
Bottom Line:
I bought the bike less the shock as a 99' left over. Sold all stock components (except the Shimano items) & rebuilt the bike for racing. Giant sells a great bike for the components offered & the price. The bike is a great racing bike, light & handles just as a good HT should, responsive & a great climber (as long as you are a good climber). Only down side is the sound of debris hitting the frame as it sounds like your riding a beer can. No problems w/ and dents or dings. Frame is sturdy & strong. Would recomment this bike to anyone for the price & you could upgrade the frame after a few years if necessary.
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Submitted by
Mike
a Cross Country Rider
from San Jose, CA USA Date Reviewed: September 18, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Demo Forest & Skeggs Point
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1250.00
Strengths:
Bang for the buck. WTB Motorapter tires have turned out to be very nice. Hayes HD Disc brakes
Weaknesses:
Handlebars and saddle (easy & cheap fix) Mavic 223 Disc rims (not worthy of singletrack or technical riding. In 6 months I've toasted two front rims and one rear) LX front.
Bike Setup:
Mavic 317 Disc rims, Easton Monkeylite Riser, Gel Flite saddle.
Bottom Line:
THIS IS AN UPDATE FROM A PREVIOUS POST
The bike is great and is worth every dollar you spend for it. However upon buying the bike try to get a discount for some additonal parts; such as, a riser bar, upgraded rims (if you ride agro trails like me), XT or XTR front.
I have crashed a few times at high speed and watched the bike bounce, flip and slam into rocks & trees. I have not had any of the problems previously described, I just pick it up and keep on riding. I'm 6'2", 185lbs and ride the medium frame. Still happy with the bike, but find myself spending more money on things I don't think I should have to (i.e. rims)
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Submitted by
Carl Buchmann
a
from Montreal, Canada Date Reviewed: September 15, 2000
Favorite Trail:
cross country
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1250.00
Strengths:
This Bike is the best for it's price, with hayes disc brakes,sid XC,time pedals, this bike is wicked!!
Weaknesses:
Adjusting the brakes when i first got the bike, but now it's a breaze to maintain.
Similar Products Used:
Treck 8000,gary fisher sugar, giant boulder.
Bike Setup:
didn't change a thing, just added cateye wireless spedometer wich is great.... and also bought a pump for the Sid XC very essential if you want to tweek your bike for optimal performance.
Bottom Line:
This bike is grate for it's price, didn't have any problems on it after doing a bit more then 800k of cross country with it. it's handeling is very nice and has very good accelaration. It's standard components are grate you don't need to change a thing.
For the people who are looking for a very good bike at a price hard to beat the giant xtc se1 is the best choice.
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Submitted by
Adrian Vizzari
a Racer
from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Date Reviewed: September 12, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Toolangi
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$1300.00
Strengths:
Cost - for the money this is a real good bike. I race almost every second weekend plus train 2x per week. So far it's been great - no failures or breakages (including frame!).
Weaknesses:
1) The chain did not match well with the rest of the gear set - change to high spec Shimano and 100% improvement. 2) The standard set didn't suit me but thats up to the rider. 3) The bike is a little heavy - just doesn't have the "snap" of more expecnsive products - still for the money...
Similar Products Used:
Other Giants, Avanti Competitor etc
Bike Setup:
Hutchinson Pythyon, Selle seat, Profile Tomac bar ends, Shimano IG chain, Oury grips
Bottom Line:
Good bike for the money - don't complain! Perhaps a little heavy but who cares - just keep on riding.
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Submitted by
SEAN
a Weekend Warrior
from VERNON NJ Date Reviewed: September 11, 2000
Favorite Trail:
RINGWOOD NJ
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1150.00
Purchased At:
SUSSEX BIKE SHOP
Strengths:
CAN CLIMB ALMOST ANYTHING YOU PUT IN FRONT OF IT... STURDY OVERALL BIKE... PRICE BRAKES...
Weaknesses:
NONE......
Similar Products Used:
USED TO OWN A TREK 950 WITH NO SHOCKS!!! PIECE OF SH__!!
Bike Setup:
ALL ORIGINAL MANUFACTURERS PARTS..
Bottom Line:
YOU CANNOT KILL THIS BIKE. IM 6 FT 220 LBS AND EVERYTIME I GO OVER THE HANDLEBARS ...(TWICE ALREADY, LAST TIME MY FACE WAS BURIED IN A ROCK)...THE BIKE CAME OUT WITH ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG. ITS DEFINITELY THE PERFECT BIKE. I GIVE IT 5 SMELLY FLAMING SHI_S ALL AROUND FOR PRICE AND PERFORMANCE.
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Submitted by
Alexander
a Cross Country Rider
from Folsom, CA Date Reviewed: September 4, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Northstar At Tahoe
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1200.00
Strengths:
* Best bike for the buck! (frame, SID XC shock, Hayes disk brakes are worth $1200 buy themselves) * Light (with 21.5" frame mine is only 25.5lbs) * Looks cool (nice graphics, black rims/tires, white crank) * Good component selection (nothing needs to be upgraded!!!) * Good geometry (for tall riders, I'm 6'3", wide bar is a +) * Dramatic difference in speed - hubs are well refined (in comparison to my old Trek 7000)
Weaknesses:
None serious, used the bike only for a few rides, will update later. * My wrists hurt after first 3 long rides, so I will have to adjust the bar angle * Shifters is the only part I'm not crazy about, wish it would come with RapidFire for quicker shifting (with Deore you have to click one gear at a time, and it's not very convenient at a sudden hill)
Similar Products Used:
Trek 7000 (1996 model)
Bike Setup:
Stock. (I will add boots for the shock, it's a shame rockshox overlooked this detail)
Bottom Line:
Nothing comes close in quality at this price. No need to whine about LX front dir (only $30 to upgrade to XT anyway, which is not necessary, I've used Deore front dir and even that one broke only after 4 years), or about no-name seatpost - who gives a crap??? Only 2 things concern me:
- RockShox SID XC does not come with boots, and I couldn't find any in my local shops. Will also have to buy a pump to adjust air in the shock ($30) - Disk breaks work awesome, but look rather fragile, wonder what can happen to them in case of a crash?
Other then that the bike is great. I've been shopping for it for over 6 months and finally found the price I was willing to pay, so take your time and look around! I'm giving this bike highest rating now, but will update if my opinion will change.
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Submitted by
Chris
a Cross Country Rider
from Fishers, IN US of A Date Reviewed: August 18, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Nebo Ridge
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1435.00
Purchased At:
Montgomery Cycle in Cincinatti
Strengths:
Hayes Brakes, Light Frame, Time pedals
Weaknesses:
lx front, chain ring
Similar Products Used:
99 xtc se2
Bike Setup:
Stock
Bottom Line:
Excellent value. The hayes brakes are great. The titec bar was way too wide and was remedied by taking an inch off of each side. I put on the rock shox seat post, so mine is about 27 pounds. You aren't going to get a better value for 1400 bucks. I had the xtc se2 before this and the frame was rock solid, as is this one. If it weren't for the lx front derailler that caused me problems in my first race, it would definitely get 5 flamers instead of 4 for overall.
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Submitted by
Orgazmo
a Cross Country Rider
from Ann Arbor Date Reviewed: August 3, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Poto
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
HAYES DISC BREAKES!!! SID XC fork XT derailer, light frame, Race Face crankset,
Weaknesses:
handlebar too wide and heavy, no name seatpost, Time pedals (I apologize to those time freaks, but I just don't like them) chain doesn't seem to work well with cassette
Similar Products Used:
GT Karakoram
Bike Setup:
Stock, except for pedals, shimano 747
Bottom Line:
For the money, there just ain't anything out there that can come even close for getting this much bang for your buck. This bike climbs really well. All the weakpoints can be easily upgraded to something much nicer for not too much dough. I finally took this bike on my favorite trail which is pretty intense and technical. I would have to say if I were on anything lesser, my life would have been hell, the trail was ridiculously muddy(I know I shouldn't be riding in those conditions, but I had to) and the bike held up well, but I did have a problem with the front derailer getting knocked out of alignment and having my chain rub against it while on my ride. Also, my cleats got a messed up but that was my fault, add to that that you don't want to stop seeing as how the mosquitos there are on speed, that makes life pretty miserable, but this can be corrected by making sure that your bike is nicely tuned before you ride. The disc breaks were a godsend, really helps out in muddy conditions and the SID fork is by far the best fork I have ever used, plush, and sucks up every hit. I would say the fork and the breakes alone make this bike worth ever penny. This is the new standard for quality and componentry for the price. Definately a must by for a rider looking for a medium to high end bike but doesn't have the finances of an internet start-up millionaire.
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Submitted by
SGT ROCK
a
from Drumheller, AB Date Reviewed: August 3, 2000
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Bottom Line:
This is a review for the replacement frame I received from GIANT after a two week wait. First thing that pissed me off was the replacement frame has ugly and useless V brake bosses on the seatstays. I guess this is the frame GIANT markets to suckers building their own bike - complete bikes don't have the bosses. Second, while putting the bike back together, the LH BB cup (Shimano UN72)started fine, went halfway in, and seized. Threads screwed. Found a cup from a LX BB (plastic) and rammed it in - basically self-tapped through the mess. I'll be ok as long as it doesn't loosen up, or have to take out the cup for some reason.
I should really have sent this supercrap back to GIANT for frame no. 3, but all I want to do is ride, save my pennies this winter, and move the components to a new frame next spring. Santa Cruz Chameleon looks good as a replacement.
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Submitted by
SGT ROCK
a Racer
from Drumheller, AB Date Reviewed: July 21, 2000
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Components Price
Weaknesses:
Frame
Bottom Line:
It's time to eat crow. After claiming this frame was more than strong enough for XC riding in earlier review, I discovered this week that the top tube is breaking! Stress fracture on the underside, about 3 in. forward of seat tube. After only about 350km of chicksh*t XC race courses! This frame blows. Too fragile even for a race bike. GIANT sending another frame immediately, but I no longer have any confidence in this product. Will be racing on my old TREK this weekend.
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Submitted by
Kevin
a Cross Country Rider
from Saratoga, NY Date Reviewed: June 19, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Value, most componentry
Weaknesses:
Giant cut corners on the chan and cogset as well as the stem, seatpost, and handlebar to pull of a bike like this at this price
Bike Setup:
Profile Stiffy stem, Kore Elite 2 post, Bontrager crowbar race, Rolf Dolomite disc wheels
Bottom Line:
I've had this bike for about 2 weeks and have only missed one day of riding. I actually took it on a 20 mile road ride, just so I could be on it. My Hayes broke in extremely well and make me very happy. One thing I didn't expect was how much they help overall bike handling and control on tight, tchnical trails. The SID XC is great. I never notice the front end of my bike doing anything weird and it tracks well. The problems I have with the bike are minor. Excessive chainslap destroyed the stock chainstay protector and forced me to put a lizard skin protector on. The cassette and chain comprimise the drivetrain, causing the chain to skip occaisionally. Mostly it happens when I shift under full power, which I shouldn't do anyway. The Titec stem and bar are heavy and had to go, along with the no name seatpost, which was fairly heavy as well. These upgrades are not a big deal and you can save money if you take care of them at the dealer when you buy the bike. I work at a Giant dealer (gotta love the pro-deal) and the bike sells itself. There's not a better deal out there. I'd give it about 30 burning things for value and 4.75 overall in stock form.
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Submitted by
Troy
a Cross Country Rider
from Minneapolis, MN Date Reviewed: June 12, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Cable, WI
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Bottom Line:
CONTINUATION of earlier post.
GIANT sent a new frame that is being installed for me this week. Both me and my LBS had kind of forgot about the issue with the frame because everything was working fine, but the rear wheelstay was not lined up properly. LBS called me and told me that a new frame had shown up and to bring it in for the exchange. Hopefully my frame was a fluke in the batch of frames. I'll keep my previous ratings again, there is no perfect bike and GIANT made things right with me.
Laters
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Submitted by
Rodney
a Cross Country Rider
from Berkeley, CA Date Reviewed: June 9, 2000
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Price, weight, looks
Weaknesses:
none...so far
Similar Products Used:
Kona Fire Mountain, GT Zaskar, Gary Fisher
Bike Setup:
Z2 Superfly, raceface: next cranks, stem, low riser handlebar, rings, thomson seatpost, Crosslinks, avid mag brakes and levers
Bottom Line:
I just got the frame only....So far so good...the bike feels really nice up and down the trails...Got my bike to be a bit over 24lbs, could be lighter with a better wheelset and a lighter bb....For the price, this is a sweet bike...I don't know about that guy saying he could dent the frame by pressing on it...Any alum. frame is eventually gonna have dents, though...Definitely won't go wrong with this frame/bike...
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Submitted by
johnny p
a Weekend Warrior
from MA Date Reviewed: June 9, 2000
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
everything!!!! except the front shifters...
Weaknesses:
Front Shifters.. I replaced then with Shimanno xt
Similar Products Used:
Gary Fischer Kaitai with all XT components
Bike Setup:
Stock with the exception of xt front shifters
Bottom Line:
This bike is the best deal out there for the money. I have only been riding since 98 and my friends are amazed at how this machine has improved my riding! I am making climbs that I could only dream about when I was riding my "Kaitai" and the Sid sucks up all the hits. You will not find a better deal on a bike in this price range... PERIOD! Luv It! 5 chillis
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Submitted by
M. Perez
a
from Chula Vista, Ca. Date Reviewed: June 6, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Everything
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
Trek 7000
Bike Setup:
stock
Bottom Line:
What more do you want for $1500? For the the price, you get a heck of a lot. Almost everything is name brand with a few minor exceptions. Some people will find anything to complain about. There is nothing wrong with WHITE crank arms. What is this, Vogue? You won't find a better bike at this price.
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Submitted by
Aaron
a Cross Country Rider
from Baltimore, MD Date Reviewed: June 3, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
Hayes Disks, Sid XC(depends on if you get a good one), XT rear derailleur
Weaknesses:
Deore Front derailleur and shifters although they work good enough for me for now, Race face WHITE CRANKS!!!
Similar Products Used:
trek 8000 lt
Bike Setup:
XTC SE1 w/ Easton Monkey lite riser, Easton Mag xc stem, Mavic Crosslink Disk Wheelset, XT bottom bracket, Continental Explorer pro's
Bottom Line:
This is my new bike. Haven't got all the money yet but with all the changes i think it will take it below 25. I figured out the white crank thing. It's supposed to match the Crosslink Disc wheelset. Still ugly though. Hopefully the mods will make the bike 2 pounds lighter. will update when finally get the cash for it. Already have it all ordered.
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Submitted by
Kevin
a Cross Country Rider
from Saratoga, NY Date Reviewed: May 31, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
Best value out there, hayes discs, SID, Light frame
Weaknesses:
Heavy wheelset
Similar Products Used:
I've demoed pretty much everything from Trek, Giant, and Fisher
First of all, I work in a bike shop, and if you could dent the downtube with your fingers we'd have warranty issues out the ass. Second, for those of you wondering how this bike can weigh 26+ lbs with a 3 lb frame and 2.9 lb fork, it's not the discs, its the wheel set. You can probably drop a pound+ by upgrading wheels and going with less aggressive tires. Another problem is the ridiculously wide bar, which I'll swap out for the Crowbar race when my bike gets here later this week. Overall, I can't wait for it to get here because it kicks ass. Originally, I wanted the MCM SE1, but was told that Giant has sold out and won't be making anymore. Not to worry, as the XTC is still an incredible bike and an incredible deal. But one more complaint. Who hell specced the stupid looking white cranks? I'll repost once I put in some time on it.
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Submitted by
Jim Moreland
a Weekend Warrior
from Kent, WA Date Reviewed: May 27, 2000
Favorite Trail:
tapeworm, Renton, WA
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Value for the money, Hayes disc brakes, responsive handling
Weaknesses:
weight, some low end components
Similar Products Used:
looked at Specialized Stumpjumper Pro, Fisher Mt. Tam, Schwinn Moab disc
Bike Setup:
bontrager crowbars, rockshox seatpost
Bottom Line:
after a long search for the right bike within my budget the Giant came out on top. The Specialized was nice but didn't ride any better for the extra money. Plus, those hayes disc brakes are incredible, feels like I'm cheating. Only complaint I have is the weight. It can't just be the disc brakes. Giant says it has a 3 lb frame and the SID XC forks are light so where is all the weight coming from? However, on the trail I don't really notice it as the bike handles and accelerates so well. Overall I am very pleased and know I made the right choice for the money. (anyone with some weight saving tips out there?)
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Submitted by
ol dirty
a Cross Country Rider
from bay area, california Date Reviewed: May 26, 2000
Favorite Trail:
any sick trail is my fav
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
the time pedals are sweet price, sid xc and the disc brakes nice color scheme also
Weaknesses:
lx front deraileur, wide bar, no v brake mounts crank color, low bb
Similar Products Used:
cannondale, specialized and schwinn
Bike Setup:
stock, but not for long.
Bottom Line:
overall, the bike is dope. it's a little beefy but i really can't tell except for long fire road climbs. the bike handles very well and is a blast to ride. other than the f der., gen post and wide bar, this bike is perfect. and besides, for the price, you can't beat it. the bb should be a little higher and the cranks...black would be a better option, but who really cares anyways.
any xc rider on a budget should seriously consider this bike. alot of bang for the buck.
overall, i give it 4 flaming cars.
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Submitted by
Pam
a Cross Country Rider
from Baltimore, MD, USA Date Reviewed: May 25, 2000
Favorite Trail:
too many to choose
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
feels light and responsive, equally great on tight single track and fire road, excellent bike for the buck
Weaknesses:
crank color, wish it was lighter
Similar Products Used:
Trek 8000, Gary Fisher Paragon, Specialized Stumpjumper Comp, Raleigh M80
Bike Setup:
all factory except: replaced: Shimano drive train stuff w/SRAM 9.0SL, pedals w/better Time ATACs, bar ends w/Tomac Stubbys
Bottom Line:
The Hayes Hydraulic Brakes kick butt. The wheelbase seems perfect for tight turns on the single track, yet still performs well on long climbs and on open fire road. My bike's final weight is 27lbs. I was worried about this at first, but I really don't feel it on the trail. It feels like a light bike. I replaced the Shimano stuff because I'm a total SRAM freak. If you're thinking about a great bike with hydraulic brakes, definitely give this one a spin. SID shock feels great too. After reading here about some folks having frame denting problems, I had some concerns before I purchased my Giant. I spoke with my LBS who forwarded my concerns to Giant. Giant says, if there have been any cases of frames being dented "merely by squeezing with your fingers," they haven't been reported to Giant. My only real complaint about this bike is a cosmetic one: The SE2 comes with a black Race Face Prodigy but this one comes with a white one! Yuck!
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Submitted by
SGT ROCK
a Racer
from Drumheller, AB Date Reviewed: May 15, 2000
Bought this bike from the local shop, took it out of the packing crate and put it together myself. Almost mandatory to get rid of the seatpost, shifters, bar and bottom bracket - lightened the bike about a pound with stronger parts for less than $300.
This is a decent sport class racing bike, but it's no trail bike. The bottom bracket height is almost two inches lower than my other rides, so in real technical terrain your chainrings are gonna eat it big time. Nobody should be buying a hardtail for trails these days anyway - full sus offers too many advantages to pass up. Hayes brakes are nice, but offer no advantage over V's for short races, and are way heavier, so expert/elite riders won't like this bike. Jury is still out on the SID XC - nice adjustability, but it flexes enough that disc caliper/disc rotor orientation changes after rough downhills, causing your carefully adjusted, no drag front brake to drag.
Bike climbs and accelerates well with its stiff frame, but it's a bit harsh for extended saddle time. Anybody who's denting the tubes should look at their riding, 'cause this frame is more than strong enough for the intended use. It ain't a freeride machine! Buy the right bike!
This is a fast steed. The poeple that are saying hte frame dents easily, that is a bunch of garbage. I bomb down the rocky mountains, and crash all the time. Alot of my crashes are on rocks and stones too. Not a single dent !!! Lots of scratches hehehe
This is a great frame from control and XC. I weigh 235lbs, and I run this baby hard !! Got my bike down to 21.8lbs(digital) on my small frame !!!
Now you tell me, my fat butt can crash and thrash this bike frame, and it still holds up. 5 CHILLES FROM ME !!!
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Submitted by
Brian C.
a Cross Country Rider
from Reston, Virginia Date Reviewed: April 23, 2000
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Hayes Brakes are awesome
Weaknesses:
Frame is very easy to dent
Similar Products Used:
Specialized Stumpy
Bike Setup:
Stock setup
Bottom Line:
After waiting about 3 weeks for the bike to come in to my LBS I couldn't wait to ride it. However, I found that the aluminum that Giant uses is extremely east to dent. I have quite a few significant dents on my toptube already. Just last week someone knocked my se1 over and the toptube dented from hitting a rock on the ground. Other than that, the bike handles extremely well. If Giant can get their act together and use a better quality aluminum for the frame, this could be a great bike. I'm only giving 2 stars cause the frame is iffy and that should be the cornerstone of any good bike.
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Submitted by
Rich H.
a Cross Country Rider
from Alexandria Date Reviewed: April 22, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Nice color
Weaknesses:
I've only had this bike for less than a month, riding close to 60 miles a week and I've dented the frame already. The superlight aluminum is WAY too weak. It just can't hold up to falls and spills. Its true you can compress the downtube with just your fingers! I think the bike has just enough rigidity to ride well, but if you fall then its toast. Giant tried to cut the weight way too much by not using the superlight aluminum.
Similar Products Used:
Trek 8000 Specialized Rockhopper
Bike Setup:
Stock
Bottom Line:
I wouldn't get this bike again. While it rides decently well, I need a bike that has a frame that won't dent and flex so easily. You get a lot of bang for you buck componenets wise, but you get a crappy frame. 4 flamin dungpiles for the components you get, but only 1 overall for the crappy frame.
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Submitted by
RON "REX HAVOC"
a Weekend Warrior
from DENVER,CO Date Reviewed: April 18, 2000
Favorite Trail:
HUNTER CREEK LOOP
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
COMPONENT VALUE, BURLY FRAME, SID SHOCK AND HAYES DISCS
SELLE ITALIA GELFLITE, XTR FRONT DERAILLEUR AND SHIFT PODS, EASTON CT2 BAR, DEAN TI POST, HUTCHISON PYTHONS
Bottom Line:
THIS BIKE IS HARD TO BEAT FOR THE MONEY! I AM A KLEIN-FREAK, BUT BEFORE THE TREK MONSTER SWALLOWED IT UP. I NEVER EVEN CONSIDERED GIANT UNTIL DOING SOME RESEARCH. THE LIKELY BIKE WAS GOING TO BE THE SPEC STUMPJUMPER M2 PRO. THIS BIKE HAD BETTER COMPONENTS, A COMPRABLE FRAME, AND A $250 LESS HIT.IT CLIMBS LIKE A MT. GOAT BELYING ITS 27LBS AND ABSOLUTELY ROCKS ON DOWNHILL WITH THE SID AND HAYES SETUP. I CHANGED OUT A LOT OF STUFF TO SUIT MY NEEDS(AND EGO) BUT THE BIKE ROCKS ON STOCKS. MINUS ONE CHILI FOR THE SEAT SETUP AND LX CRAP.
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Submitted by
Troy
a Cross Country Rider
from Minneapolis, MN Date Reviewed: April 12, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Cable, Wisconsin
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Very quick and nimble, great frame. Hard to beat deal for the weekend/semi-serious XC rider who occasionally races lower classes. Complete package for cheap: Hayes Hydraulic, LX/XT/Raceface, Mavic 223 disk, SID XC, and Time ATAC Aliums for $1325. Great cockpit, very comfortable
Weaknesses:
Having troubles with the rear wheelstay keeping the tire in straight. It doesn't rub, but the wheel is offcenter. Taking it in this weekend, will update if I don't get it fixed satisfactorily. LX front derailer, but everyone knows they suck. Titec HellBent Flattracker. Needs a riser.
Similar Products Used:
Just went from a '97 TREK Y-3 to this bike. No comparison in speed and hill climbing.
Bike Setup:
17 1/2" frame: I'm 5'9, 160 and it fits PERFECT. stock setup: SID XC, Hayes Hydro, LX/XT/Raceface. Mavic rims, MTB tires, Time Atac Alium. I am adding a Titec riser this weekend, the standard HellBent Flat Tracker is too wide for the trees and needs rise.
Bottom Line:
Overall, I will give this bike 4 flames. The only thing keeping me from 5 is the issue with the rear wheel. I have no doubts it will be handled correctly and I will be on a five star bike by the end of the weekend. For the price, this bike ROCKS!!. The SID is taking some getting used to, especially after downgrading from Marzocchi (the ultimate suspension, don't be fooled otherwise). The LX front I could do without, but that's a minor $30 fix and an issue for another post. I saw a post about the excess weight of this bike. I don't notice it being 26 lbs, or whatever it weighs. I honestly don't know what it weighs and don't care. When riding, it feels light and is quick in the turns, straightaways, and climbs. All the things that matter, this bike provides for a GREAT PRICE. ...I can always lose a pound.
5 tirds for value, and 4 for overall rating, depending on the rear wheel schpeel.
That's all....I'm out...
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Submitted by
Bob Hallowell
a Cross Country Rider
from DuBois, Pa Date Reviewed: April 6, 2000
Favorite Trail:
all
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
sid shock, time pedals, great hayes disc break.
Weaknesses:
the weight
Similar Products Used:
specailized, cannondales
Bike Setup:
stock so far
Bottom Line:
this bike is a great bike for the price, the disc brakes work fantastic, we have alot of very steep and looses decents around here and my friends have made sure I have tired every one of them. The wieght sounds heavy but it does not handle or climb like a 26lb bike more like a 22 or 23.I have not had any problems with any of the bike so far(except from having to reajust the drivetrain because I crash to much). Buy it you will love it.
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Submitted by
Mike
a Weekend Warrior
from San Jose, CA USA Date Reviewed: March 7, 2000
I swapped in an Easton Monkey Lite riser bar. Everything else is stock.
Bottom Line:
This bike rocks! I did a lot of research before buying a mountian bike and Giant was not a consideration. However, You get great components: Hayes Discs, a resonably light frame with great shocks. I got mine on sale for $1250 and the components almost cost more than that!
My price range was $1000-1500 and I looked at Klein, Marin, Gary Fisher, Trek, Specialized S-works, Schwinn, and Bianchi.
The bottom line is this bike kick butt on the hills and smokes on the fast, downhill single track - it also loves to fly. I also tested the SIDs on some 2-3 foot drops on steep terrain - I'm impressed.
My friends ride Marin & Specialized and all I can say is that the weekend menu always includes, "smoked Specialized M2 comp"
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Submitted by
rideLIKEjehu
a Cross Country Rider
from washington DC Date Reviewed: March 3, 2000
Favorite Trail:
frederick watershed
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
new cane creek zero-stack headset, weight (3lb frame), slick graphics
Weaknesses:
none so far
Similar Products Used:
GT, Specialized
Bike Setup:
XT drivetrain, Judy XC, avid vee brakes, bonty post, icon stem
Bottom Line:
I purchased this bike as a frame-only for a great price and built up the rest myself. Once I slapped all my stuff on it, I ended up with a super fast 23 pound steed (Even with my porky 4lb fork on the front!) I've only had it a week, but I've been on it every day and am waaaaay happy with the performance. Nice and stiff, but not teeth rattling like most light aluminum bikes.
The oversized Cane Creek headset completely exceeded my expectations. I'd never really ridden with a quality headset b4 and was suprised at how smooth and agile it makes the bike handle. Besides, it looks really cool and the chi-chi value is high.
Personally I really like the new paint scheme. Much better than last years yellow all over with big red logos everywhere.
I'm not sure if mine is special, but I have regular posts for v-brakes as well as a mount for a disc in the rear. I've yet to switch over to the world of disc. Vee brakes are so light and just as powerful if tuned correctly, not to mention the cost difference!
This bike makes me giggle like a schoolgirl...5 chilis all around!!!
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Submitted by
Nate
a Weekend Warrior
from Longview, WA Date Reviewed: March 3, 2000
Favorite Trail:
all of them
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Everything, this bike is dang near perfect for the money. Hayes discs, Race Face, Shimano XT what more could you ask for.
Weaknesses:
are you stupid?
Bike Setup:
SID 100 fork, Azonic A-frame pedals, Anzonic World Force Riser Bars, Azonic ORC stem, the rest is stock.
Bottom Line:
This bike is @#$%^& awesome. I switched the bars, and stem to better suit my height. Then I changed out to Azonic A-frame pedals (the greatest platform pedals ever made, your feet stick to them like glue, but you can still pull them off when you are goin down) instead of the clipless. The brakes are excellent, duh they are Hayes. Giant screwed up when they sent this bike to the local shop and fitted it with a SID 100 fork instead of the XC, so I got a bonus. Anyone with $1500 lookin for the best hardtail they can get should go buy this bike. It climbs like a mountain goat and can jump of picnic tables pretty good too. Quit sittin on your butt and go buy this bike. I give it 7 flaming turds for the value and 5 for the overall.
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Submitted by
Russ Bowers
a Cross Country Rider
from Gainesville, FL USA Date Reviewed: February 28, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Razorback, Florida
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Good value, good company, was Bicycling's bicycle of the year in 1999, SID XC, front fork, high performance frame.
Weaknesses:
I can't believe a california company came up with this bogus black/yellow/white color/paint scheme. Should have a color option where the bike is all black with white lettering.
Similar Products Used:
Trek 970, old stump-jumper.
Bike Setup:
Hayes disks, rock shox SID XC, Koshi Engineering saddle, XT rear derailleur,LX front derailleur and shifters, WTB 2.0" DNA tires.
Bottom Line:
The XTC SE1 is not really set up to be a purebread racing bike due its weight (26.5 lbs with pedals, as shipped). This is partially due to the disk brakes. Another problem was that it took forever to get this bike! It was ordered in late November and didn't arrive until February. I expected having it in 1-2 weeks as the salesperson said.
Overall, the 2000 XTC SE1 is a mean hardtail. The bike always gets a lot of compliments on the trail. As advertised, the Hayes brakes work extremely well, but it seems like if you hit a rock the wrong way the entire disk brake hanger on the rear chainstay would just break off and you'd be done. Hopefully its a lot stronger then it looks, but should this hanger break, it would impossible to revert the bike to conventional breaks and I'm not sure this would be covered under warranty. Too bad the SE1 is not offered in a version with the more practial regular brakes.
The SID shock seems a little light on rough rooted/rocky downhills at high speed, but on the other hand, the bike seems to have excellent control on both climbing and technical sections (especially on drops). The shock has saved my rear several times when I needed it, so I won't be too critical.
All in all, the bike is an excellent value and I'm o.k.with it. By the way, I think the list price is $1225 (what I paid and what is posted on the Giant website) and not $1400 as MTB Review lists it.
I'm taking away 1 chili due to the weight and brake hanger issues.
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