Submitted by
jake
a Downhiller
from naniamo b.c. Date Reviewed: August 21, 2004
Favorite Trail:
husler on mt. washington
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$400.00
Purchased At:
west shore bikes
Strengths:
frame and rims
Weaknesses:
breaks and shocks
Bike Setup:
kujo dh 2.35 tires radicol handlebars dh
Bottom Line:
kick ass bike!!!!! i have abused this bike on so many rides i took it off a 12 foot drop last month no problem! never had any big problems with it but the judy shocks need an upgrade! other than that awesome bike! grat downhill/bigginer bike! my biggiest drop was on this bike 18 feet! GOOD JOB GIANT!!!!!!!
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Submitted by
David Shue
a Downhiller
from New Zealand Date Reviewed: December 4, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Ur ass
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$500.00
Purchased At:
Pedal pushers !!!!
Strengths:
Value. decent bike to thrash good x country bike u can do jumps and drops on. Decent all rounder
Weaknesses:
i go the 2000 model im 13, brakes unreliable, shocks need stiffer spring rate, snapped the rear deralia drop out, broke deralier. got an Lx. Ive got a very squeky headset and BB, i think its gona snap!! Does the warranty cover that:? Email me if u know
Im about 95 lbs, im 13 iv done 8 footers and bottem out the front and rear shock. I hate the squeky headset and BB. Good bike to ride. I race yes race cross country (as little as possible) Do lots of jumps, from 4 to 8 foot drops, do fitness training on it and ride it to school every day. NIce work giant
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Submitted by
Mountain Goat
a Downhiller
from Sydney Date Reviewed: August 4, 2002
Favorite Trail:
The Natio's
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$1000.00
Purchased At:
Some crap shop!
Strengths:
Um,,,,,,,,,cant think of any!
Weaknesses:
Same old story,,,,,,frame snapped on swing arm just above weld and cracks developed on main frame.
Similar Products Used:
Huffy!
Bike Setup:
Had to change everything within first year.
Bottom Line:
The bike is a good for a freereide beginner but if you want to start doing a few 3 foot + drops than this thing is not going to last. The rear end flex's like a rubber band. Couldnt get warranty because I had to change components eg, front fork.
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Submitted by
Manimal
a Weekend Warrior
from Seattle WA Date Reviewed: July 31, 2002
Favorite Trail:
Tolt MacDonald
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$850.00
Strengths:
Dead reliable-Soaks up punishment-!!PRICE!!
Weaknesses:
Brakes and Shock
Similar Products Used:
Specialized FSR's-Gary Fisher Sugar (a $4000 bike-ouch!)-K2 Animal
Bike Setup:
Shimano Deore XT hydraulic disc brakes-170mm Cane Creek AD-10 rear shock-30.8mm seatpost (eliminates creaking from the OE shimmed 27.2 mm post)-shorty DH stem-lockjaw grips-OE Judy Hydracoil fork @ 100mm travel-Kenda Kinetics 2.35's
Bottom Line:
This is my 3rd straight summer of pounding on this bike and *FOR THE PRICE*, it simply can not be beat-The money I saved on the initial purchase let me upgrade the only two weaknesses that this bike has and I ended up with a ride that I can't fault-I let many people ride it and everyone has the exact same comment "SMOOTH"-Don't believe any of the people slagging this bike off bcz they ALL eventually do mention the awesome warranty service (5yr warranty on the frame alone) that they got from Giant when/if the bike failed (look at the prev review, the bike ddnt even fail and they replaced the guys frame!)-How many other bike manufacturers stand behind their products with 'no questions asked', complete replacements of frames, brakes and shocks?? NONE! Don't get me wrong, this bike IS built down to a price but it's a pretty attractive price (the DS2 and DS3 are even cheaper but have the same frame) and the components really are very good for the money that you're paying-Anyway, if you don't like what you've got, at least you aren't flat broke from the initial purchase and you can just get what you want when you upgrade-I spent $300 on replacing the brakes and shock and now it's only regular maint expenses left to deal with (tires/chain/etc)-It's a great bike for beginners or intermediates that do XC, urban or free riding and even some light DH-This bike is the swiss army knife of bikes-It does it all and hasn't let me down even once since I bought it-I still even have the OE wheels on it-My message to all of the 220+ pound riders on these sites that whine about product failures is to LOSE SOME WEIGHT and stop crying about all the equipment that you break-The answer to your problems is no further away than the digits on the scale in your bathroom-Quit blaming the equipment manufacturers and start noticing the garbage that you knowingly push into your pie hole every morning, noon and night-I can't help but wonder how cheap these bikes could really be if Giant didn't have to constantly be replacing stuff that wilted under your immense bulk??Giant bikes rule!! Five flamin chili's for value and over all performance, without a doubt.
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Submitted by
Ray
a Weekend Warrior
from Melb, Australia Date Reviewed: November 7, 2001
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Bottom Line:
Giant Came through on the warranty. They said that it wasnt really a crack, but they gave me a new fame anyways, 2002 DS2 frame at that.
Go Giant
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Submitted by
Ray
a Weekend Warrior
from Melbourne, Australia Date Reviewed: October 21, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Anything Off Road
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$600.00
Purchased At:
Private, Pretty much new
Strengths:
Great looking bike, Smooth ride, weight,
Weaknesses:
The judys could do with a higher rate spring, front disc a bit squealy, FRAME CRACKED AT THE REAR SHOCK MOUNT ON MY 3rd RIDE.
Bike Setup:
All factory execpt for clip in pedals
Bottom Line:
Great bike execpt for the weak frame. I have only had the bike for about 2 or 3 months and it has never been bashed about. After my 3rd ride, on only mild XC the rear shock mount weld has started cracking. Hopefully Giant will follow through with the warranty. I will let you know. Great bike for the price, but really, really annoyed about the frame!!!!
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Submitted by
Gwyn Evans
a Downhiller
from England Date Reviewed: September 3, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Rivington Pike
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$800.00
Purchased At:
Northern Exposure
Strengths:
Not a lot when i baught it. It looked good with the triple crown forks and rear suspension. The frame is sturdy good tyres.
Weaknesses:
The pedals (toe clips), forks (sr suntour triple clamps), wheels (formula on alexrims),brakes (formula md 1 mechanical, half pipe shifters
The bike looks good at first and when you first experience it, it gets better. however, after a while the brakes start to squeek the wheels feel weak and the forks need a lot of servicing when the money just isn't worth spending. Upgrade on the frame and then finally upgrade the frame. After all this you've finally got a bike worth shouting about.
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Submitted by
Andrew Sulu
a Weekend Warrior
from Seattle Date Reviewed: July 27, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Tiger Mtn.
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$900.00
Purchased At:
local shop
Strengths:
Loyal, dependable.
Weaknesses:
Blind faith.
Bottom Line:
I am your Giant Warp DS1. You complain about my braking ability and my weak frame. Well, Let me tell you a few things. I am a relatively light bike- because thats what you want. I am very strong for my weight, however, when your chalupa scarfing, hefeweizen sucking, non exercising for days on end blobbiness gets on me- I get a little stressed. Then, to top it off you smash me around with very little or no technique. You get on me, run me down hills and lock the brake levers, I want to stop, really I do. It's just a little hard with all that mass you've loaded on me pushing against my best efforts. Then, when you careen me off a four foot drop onto a hard flat surface or when you make a mistake and overshoot a corner- ramming me into a tree, you complain that I break? What do you expect? Before you convict me of being inferior why don't you consider taking a few simple steps to help me help you. Learn to ride and lose some weight. Fatazz.
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Submitted by
Max
a Weekend Warrior
from Northeast Pa. USA Date Reviewed: June 18, 2001
Favorite Trail:
any
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$900.00
Purchased At:
Local Bike Shop
Strengths:
Price, Hayes Mech. discs.
Weaknesses:
Bottom Bracket, Frame is too Flexy, pedals.
Bike Setup:
All stock.
Bottom Line:
This bike is the 2001. Am upgrading ASAP the pedals to clipless, the cranks/ chain rings and the BB. Giant is replacing the BB as it has been unfixable (LBS) noisy and clicking from day one. The front brake had to be adjusted with a few washers to get the whole unit to line up correctly. I love the brakes now. I weigh 210 and the bike is a joy to ride otherwise. I ride hard enough but not severe(no big drops)This is my first full suspension and I am generally pleased. The bike climbs better than anticipated and coming down is amazing. I recommend for those on a budget but jonesing for full suspension, I do plan to upgrade component by component as budget allows and skills require. I would not recommend for those that are severe riders. But for me it works well.
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Submitted by
crazy Tom
a Weekend Warrior
from Kamloops Date Reviewed: June 13, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Gords trail
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1500.00
Purchased At:
LBS
Strengths:
somewhat ridable, red paint, fork feels great, doesnt cost as much as a car!
Weaknesses:
the rear shock, those #%$@ fomula brakes!,
Similar Products Used:
tested a VPS-4 no comparison
Bike Setup:
pretty much stock, put a envy rock ring on and took those stupid toe clips off!
Bottom Line:
If you are at all a off road rider look else where I have broken two frames (one being a manufaters defect) and have blown 3 shocks ( a new shock comes with the frame)
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Submitted by
AL
a Weekend Warrior
from Chico, CA, USA Date Reviewed: May 21, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Live Oak
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$900.00
Purchased At:
The Bicycle shop (Paradise)
Strengths:
Good value. Decent components for the price. Hayes mech disk brakes, Marzocci z.5, 2.5 inch tires, comes with a pretty beefy rear spring. SRAM cassette and rear der. work good.
Weaknesses:
weight, SRAM half-pipes.
Similar Products Used:
None
Bike Setup:
All stock.
Bottom Line:
This is the 2001 DS1. This bike is a lot of fun to ride. I ride most anywhere, dirt roads, trails and single tracks. I am just a beginner, but this bike has been problem free and easy to work on. The hayes brakes stick like glue once they break in. The rear shock has a lot of adjustability, I have it preloaded about 1/2 inch and it is plenty stiff. The dampener is not there for looks, it performs well.
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Submitted by
Jason Williams
a Racer
from Canberra, ACT, Australia Date Reviewed: May 17, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Majura Pines
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$800.00
Purchased At:
ACT Bicycle Warehouse
Strengths:
Frame, Forks & Wheel Set.
Weaknesses:
Cranks, Shifters & Shifter Cable's.
Bike Setup:
Dual Compressor
Bottom Line:
A great entry level bike that I cannot complain about for the price. The mechanical disks a OK and any disk is better than rim pinchers. Great dual compressor bike that I have crashed heavily several times with the only damage being the cheap suntour cranks that come with the bike.
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Submitted by
scott
a Weekend Warrior
from cave creek Date Reviewed: May 17, 2001
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$850.00
Purchased At:
local bike store
Strengths:
price, good entry level components, great warranty service by Giant
Weaknesses:
original disc brakes were dangerous, cracked frame after a year and a half--but Giant was quick to replace with 2001 model--no questions asked...
Similar Products Used:
gt xcr4000, trek 8000
Bike Setup:
replaced disc brakes with more reliable v-brakes (which also requires replacing the wheels :^(, added clipless pedals, beyond that everything is original equipment.
Bottom Line:
i love my bike. The disc brakes should be replaced (by Giant, in my opinion) since they don't seem to work very well. The bike is a bit heavy, but so am I--still, I climb and descend with no problem. You could certainly upgrade some components to lose weight (or give up cheeseburgers--you decide). This is not a racing bike, but if you wnat something that's fast and fun, this is a good choice at a good price....
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Submitted by
Dan Steinmetz
a Cross Country Rider
from Bethlehem PA Date Reviewed: May 13, 2001
Ive only got 400 miles on this bike and the frame craked at the welds.A friend has the DS2 and is on his 2nd frame. I do only mild freestlye and downhill, so its not like im abusing the bike Giant is Awsome with their warranty and is giving me the xtc AC1 frame for only 400 more!! I cant wait to try out this frame. Hopefully the frame is strong enough.
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Submitted by
Brooks
a Weekend Warrior
from Calgary Date Reviewed: May 7, 2001
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1050.00
Purchased At:
cyclepath
Strengths:
This is the 2001 model. Price, fantastic! I was originally looking for a hardtail in this price range because of componentry, but decided to go for the full suspension as I already have a road bike, and this fit in my price range...
Weaknesses:
Nothing so far, Ive only ridden it one day, Ill update this again in a week or so after Ive put some K on it... i ve also noticed that rear end slap that some other have said... Ill try to pad it with something...
Similar Products Used:
I rode a few bikes, just demo mind you, but Ive ridden a brodie quantum a few clicks, (Friend) and my current road bike is an old norco bush pilot frame with upgraded everything. I still prefer it for road use i think...
Bike Setup:
Stock, follow the link -> http://www.giant-bicycle.com/cn/bikes/030.000.000.asp?bikes=cataloguestep4&bikeid=9507
Bottom Line:
Wicked pricing, I hit about every shop in town (about 10) with a friend, and looked at everything, specialized brodie, canondale, gary fisher, trek etc etc, and this was the best deal... I wanted a sturdy frame as I am around 235 lbs, and dont want to be messing with this bike for a few years... If you want a decent bike that will take you thorugh a couple seasons of riding, and survie a couple years of upgrades I think this is it. At, least thats what Im banking on... (shrug) :)
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Submitted by
Jason S.
a Weekend Warrior
from Kelowna, BC, Canada Date Reviewed: May 2, 2001
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Purchased At:
Cyclepath
Strengths:
Full suspension.
Weaknesses:
Frame is flawed (and Giant admits it and has corrected it for 2001) and broke in half!!!! Also had a VERY insufficient fork!!!
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
stock, but replaced shock with '99 RS judy xc
Bottom Line:
Unless you're light, and don't really ride hard AT ALL, don't get this year of bike!
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Submitted by
Simon
a
from Moncton Date Reviewed: April 27, 2001
Favorite Trail:
anyone
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1657.00
Purchased At:
Mikes
Strengths:
Forks and setup
Weaknesses:
Rear fork makes noise
Similar Products Used:
crapy minelli
Bike Setup:
factory parts
Bottom Line:
This review is on the 2001.
This bike is great for the price (oh ya its in canadian dollars) The bike is medium weight and the forks are great (marsocchi bomber z.5 coil) the bike feals light when your riding it. Its just a great bike for the price. Oh ya the rear for (gtm 7) makes clinging noises on and bump.
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Submitted by
Eric Didier
a Racer
from Portland Or Date Reviewed: April 26, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Hagg lake
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$849.00
Purchased At:
Bike and Hike
Weaknesses:
8 months into this bike, and now about 2100 miles later. The frame has cracked in 3 places. I admit that I'm not your average rider, but I don't think I've ridden as hard as I could have. Giant will hopefully honor thier warranty and give me a new frame. The Brakes were upgraded, a cost that i had hoped Giant would have paid for. Nothing but praise for the Hayes mechanical disks. Stopping power is amazing.
Bottom Line:
For the money, this is one heck of a deal! The 2001 model is an even better deal than the 2000. It looks like they worked out most of the bugs. If other Warp DS1 owners read this, check your frame!
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Submitted by
Tim UNHAPPY
a Weekend Warrior
from Torquay Australia Date Reviewed: April 11, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Anything dirty
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
.........
Weaknesses:
frame, wheels, groupset, forks, need i go on?
Similar Products Used:
?? anything else cheap
Bike Setup:
standard, except titec stem to suit my height
Bottom Line:
This bike is not designed for anything other than a cushy gravel walking track bike,
mine has not been raced, or ridden very hard. in one year, the frame has broken 2 times, the rims are toast the forks are flexy and slow. the chain rings have stripped and been replaced, the brakes i have changed the spring position to the higest setting, and they are satisfactory now... its rooted and it has lasted me a year... if you are going to take it anywhere near a track or mild trail, hope yours lasts longer than mine!
Good Luck!
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Submitted by
Teddy
a Weekend Warrior
from staten island Date Reviewed: March 27, 2001
Favorite Trail:
greenbelt
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$250.00
Purchased At:
arc de triomphe bikes queens NY
Strengths:
light frame for fs $250.00 for a fs frame can't be beat.
Weaknesses:
the frame seems a little noisey nothing a little pad here or there can't cure
Similar Products Used:
fisher hard tail
Bike Setup:
panaracer xc fire pro tires, xt rear, lx front easton monkey carbon riser bars,lx v brakes, xt shifters, lx brake levers, yeti grips titec big al stem 10 rise 120mm, selle italia gel pro link saddle, hg 92 chain, deore hollow tec crank set manitou mag fork
Bottom Line:
I got the bike down to 28lbs and on the trails it climbs very good. i don't notice a loss in climbing preformance between the warp and my hard tail. the rear suspension is very close to the cannondales jeckels. for about a 1/4 of the cost.you can rip down the trails because the bumps, rocks and roots just seam to just disapearinto the bikes suspension.the stearing in a little could be a little better in tight coners but i might just need to slow down a bit for better conering.if your looking for a good fs bike for a great price this is the bike for you. this is a bike that could keep up with the big dogs and not break the bank.
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Submitted by
Mark
a Weekend Warrior
from Costa Mesa,CA Date Reviewed: March 22, 2001
Favorite Trail:
sart
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$800.00
Purchased At:
orange cycle
Strengths:
Strong,stiff frame,forks,geometry,single pivot,low maintenence,great value
marzocchi z5 coil 100,truvativ stylo team crankset,sram drivetrain,hayes disc brakes,thomson seatpost,easton monkey lite carbon risers,sun ds1 rims,ws butted 14 spokes,hayes disc hubs,panaracer fire xc pro tires 2.1
Bottom Line:
As purchased bike is great for price.With researched upgrades weight of bike brought down to 29 lbs for total investment of $1500.00.Bike climbs great,rear wheel pulls down in granny.Bombs downhill,tracks true.Stiff precise steering.Takes a beating,handles 4 ft drops with aplomb.Suspension is plush on both ends and is very balanced.Bobbing is only felt on the road.Very active suspension with no suspension chatter over braking bumps at high speeds.Overall a tremendous bike as set up that rivals $3000.00+ bikes as a trail bike.This is not a race bike.It is a do it all trail bike.
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Submitted by
Mar Rizal
a Downhiller
from Ampang, Malaysia Date Reviewed: February 4, 2001
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$750.00
Purchased At:
Second hand
Strengths:
Good frame, shock and fork for the price.
Weaknesses:
Some weak component and the poor brakes.
Similar Products Used:
specialized fsr
Bike Setup:
Stock except for FSA PowerPro crankset, LX level Shimano bottom bracket, Primo pedals, Velo saddle, Oury grip, Intense XC 2.1" front tyre and Intense DH 2.3" rear tyre.
Bottom Line:
I bought the bike after it was used for three months by a guy who used it as training ride for his motocrossing. The brakes SUCKS. I've got the Formula MD1 brakes. It just never seem to work properly. I've used LX V brakes Before and those are more powerful than the Formula Disk brakes. The benefits of the brakes are when it gets wet or you buckled your rim. The other parts that I've had changed was due to breakage. I don't blame the parts, I weight around 170 pounds my height is around 1.75 metre and I did a lot of jumps and drops on those parts before they broke on me. Same thing goes for the frame This is my second Warp DS 1 frame. The one I origininally purchased crack at the weld that joins the down tube and the seat tower. As I am not the original owner, Giant cut me a great deal for the new frame. And it is still going strong. I know this frame won't last forever, but its better to break cheaper frame after it has taken a lot of abuse rather than breaking the more expensive ones. If you like to go fast on the downhill, do a few drops catch some air and still be able to pedal up some hills (not those super steep ones)and on a BUDGET, this is the bike for you. Overall this is a good bike for the money. If I'm buying a new bike it will most probably be another Giant, maybe the new Xtc AC bike or the some old warp ds frame again.
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Submitted by
Evan Consolazio
a Weekend Warrior
from NY Date Reviewed: January 31, 2001
Favorite Trail:
rough singletrack
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$900.00
Purchased At:
bikeway bikes
Strengths:
stiff lightweight frame, good fork, good powder coated finish,lightweight rims-nice, tires hook-up really sweet, and the HV shock is fully adjustable-also sweet.
Weaknesses:
fork makes squishy sound, it can get annoying, pedals are crap, i have a pair of azonic clipless on it now. im gonna go to azonic platform/clipless pedals soon. disc brakes have no power. they locked up on me once and i almost busted my dome-that would have sucked. i am upgrading to shimano xt hydraulic discs.
Similar Products Used:
a diamondback zetec comp. its my freinds, its pretty nice
Bike Setup:
all stock right now. im gettin a bombshell bad betty 6" and those disc brakes too.
Bottom Line:
this is a sweet bike capable of freeride,XC, or dual slolom- hence the name DS/1. it is quick and fast. its kinda sucky for big climbs, only caus of the suspension. i plan to race dual slolom next season thats why im upgrading the parts. this is a great bike and its CHEAP for what you get. i plan to have this bike until im fartin dust. i give her 5 red-hot flamers!
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Submitted by
Brad J.
a Downhiller
from Minnesota Date Reviewed: January 10, 2001
I bought just the frame. I haven't had much time to play around with it, It's pretty good for the price, Plan to upgrade to Fox Float RC. All i did with this was take my old Trek 7000 And Ploped the parts on this FS frame. Much niv=cer because of the drops i do - 5-10 foot drops. The shock isn't as stiff as i'd like it to be but hey i'm now broke so i don't see fixing that. Anyways this isn't bad for the $400 w/ new cable for brakes etc. I would recommend it to anyone!
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Submitted by
Stewart
a
from Lake Havasu City, AZ Date Reviewed: December 18, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Beer Bottle Trail/ Sara's Crack
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$850.00
Purchased At:
MBK Bikes
Strengths:
2001 model is a far better model/vlaue than the 2000. The Marzocchi Z5's and Giant HV suspension work great! The SRAM ESP halfpipe shifters/9 speed shifts very smoothly. The bike handles incredible, stays hooked up through transistions like from hard pack to a sandy wash to a rocky climb. The rear suspension keeps the tires hooked up. My first FS bike and it is living up to my expectations!!!
Weaknesses:
Didn't like the saddle. Also, Suntour put a plastic guard over the front sprocket, totally bad idea, broke in first 5 minutes on bike. Dealer is ordering an aluminum one.
Similar Products Used:
Raleigh M8000, FSR
Bike Setup:
Stock, except for seat
Bottom Line:
Great bike for the money. I liked it so much that I bought my wife one too!!!!!!
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Submitted by
john taylor
a Downhiller
from Kelowna Date Reviewed: December 15, 2000
Favorite Trail:
NORTH SHORE
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$900.00
Strengths:
Everything! this is a great bike for hte money, i have tried lots of other bikes and they suck compared ot the power this baby has! My friend got a 2000 stinky and we compared, his bike is nothing compared to this!
Weaknesses:
The formula disc brakes really suck, upgrade to avid mechs, they kick all azz
Similar Products Used:
Kona Stinky, Specialized FSR
Bike Setup:
Stock except i upgraded to a bomber Z3 fork and brakes to avid mechs and pedals to Shimano DX Clipless
Bottom Line:
Bottom line is this bike will take a beating and keep on going, it is way better than most fs bikes in its class (i.e. all the kona crap) and you pay much less for it, if you are looking for a great north shore style bike get the warp, its cheap and if you dont liekt he components you can upgrade witht he money you save, its either 900 for this and customized upgrades or like 2 grand for a stinky and you get stuck with stock, if you are getting a fs seriously you should look into the Giants they are great, GO GIANT!
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Submitted by
Anthony
a Cross Country Rider
from Connecticut Date Reviewed: November 5, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Trumbull, CT
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$800.00
Purchased At:
New Canaan
Strengths:
Full Susp. bike with descent components for $800. Tough as nails
Weaknesses:
Formula Brakes
Bottom Line:
This bike gives you alot of bang for the buck. I upgraded to clipless pedals after a week. After 3 weeks I could no longer stand the squeeling from the brakes, plus the front one was sticking. I read some reviews on MTBR and talked with some bike mechanics and decided the best thing to do was to throw them in the trash and replace them. I got a set of Shimano XT hydraulics for $279 and they are awesome. I ride mostly XC but I also do alot of downhilling at ski mountains. I have abused this bike and it has held up great.
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Submitted by
Ron Connelly
a Weekend Warrior
from Colorado Springs, CO Date Reviewed: November 2, 2000
Favorite Trail:
all
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$850.00
Purchased At:
Cycle Therapy
Strengths:
Handels great. Cost. Disk brakes.
Weaknesses:
The Seat. The weight and the breaks did make noise for three months.
Similar Products Used:
FSR, Trek
Bike Setup:
Stock for 4 months. Surfas seat, XTR post, XT drive train.
Bottom Line:
It handles everything. My confidence and riding ability has improved to the point I will try almost anything. But this has lead to some great crashes. After four months I had bent the large chain ring and rear derailer.(No fault of the bike) I upgraded to XT 9spd, carbon fiber bars and an XTR seat post. The breaks made noise for over two months. I am not sure when or why they stopped but they make almost none now. This is my second FS and the best bike I've ridden. I almost past this by because of the components, but after several test rides I went for it and have been glad I did.
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Submitted by
Eric Didier
a Racer
from Portland, Oregon Date Reviewed: October 29, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Powell butte
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$849.00
Purchased At:
Bike and Hike
Strengths:
Great looks, nice frame (cut out is great for when you need to dismount in a hurry), decent paint job.
Weaknesses:
BRAKES!!!Brakes!!!Brakes!!! My bike has spent 3 days in the shop because of the brakes. 1st time, the front caliper failed, 2nd time, the front caliper locked up, 3rd time, the front caliper failed. It's just a matter of time before Giant gets slapped with the huge lawsuit.
Bike Setup:
stock, changed pedals to BMX style and added Michelin wild gripper lites.
Bottom Line:
Good value for the money, get giant to replace those pesky Formula disk brakes, they suck. Did I mention the crappy brakes? Yeah, they really suck. And one more thing, bus drivers are envious of my brake squeal. No need for a bell on this bike, heck, it should come with ear plugs.
I hope Giant reads this... (replace my brakes!!!!)
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Submitted by
SPO
a Racer
from RI Date Reviewed: October 24, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Vietnam
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$850.00
Purchased At:
East Prov cycles
Strengths:
Tough frame, disc compatible, great suspension
Weaknesses:
Formula brakes
Similar Products Used:
KHS FXT sport
Bike Setup:
Profile carbon riser bars, no-name riser stem, Avid mechanical discs, Avid Magnesium speed dial levers, Mavic 223 W/ Shimano XT hubs, Panaracer fire XC pro's, Ritchey TGV grips (awesome), bear trap pedals, Resol custom front and rear fender, Shimano Mega Range rear cassette, Avocet 25 computer.
Bottom Line:
Awesome plush bike, bang for the buck, down hill is a breeze with this bike, up-hills suck because of the weight, but hey thats what all them fancy gears are for. If you like doing a lot of nasty rough trails, with not much cross country then this is the bike. The Formula discs suck if they are not set up correctly the first time you use them, the power is good but the squeelling will actually make you not want to ride. I had the bike shop swap them with Avid mechanicals, but I had to find then online because their suppliers couldn't (lame). The set up of the bike is for down hill but you can swap some components to lighten the load a little. I've been beating on this bike in Vietnam (Milford, Ma) and also Loon Mnt, have not had any problems. Except for the Mavic rims I changed over to (played to rough on out of the box rims). I have noticed a tendency for the rear end to constantly kick out to the right when hitting baby heads and other smaller quicker bumps, and brake squeal when pedalling, asked Giant they said the tourque on the rear bushing might not be right, (dealer screwed up). I may upgrade to a better quality bushing after the fall just for the hell of it. If you have any problems with the bike call Giants 800 number abd let them know, they will help speed up anything with your local dealer, Like swapping out my Formula pads for new non-squeek ones (didn't work). Also you've got to try the Ritchey TGV grips, these are by far the best grips I've ever used, and will ever use. Over all a great bike, some minor tweaks and your all set.
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Submitted by
Dan Steinmetz
a Cross Country Rider
from Bethlehem,PA Date Reviewed: October 12, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Jacobsburg,Southmountain
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$900.00
Purchased At:
Curts Cyclery
Strengths:
I Have the new 2001 model, Hayes Disc Brakes have unbelievable stopping power,marzocchi bomber fork rocks.
Weaknesses:
For the 900 sticker price...none that i can see.
Similar Products Used:
Marin Muirwoods rigid frame
Bike Setup:
All stock for now
Bottom Line:
This is my first full suspension bike and I love it. I was leary about a full suspender at first with the "bobing" when you climb, I dont even notice it on this bike. I dont know if its just the tires or what but it actually climbs better on the steeper terrain than the hardtail. I set the rear shock real tight and have the front forks on the light side. It downhills like a champ. Very smooth, great control in or out of the saddle. I haven't had any real wrecks yet so I dont know how the frame will hold up, Its great so far. For anyone just getting into mountian biking or even some hwo has some money to put into a few upgrades. The warp series by giant is the way to go.
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Dan
a Weekend Warrior
from Winnipeg Date Reviewed: September 29, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1250.00
Purchased At:
Olympia Cycle and Ski
Strengths:
Great handling and good parts selection for it's price range. And I upgraded to a RS Psylo XC with 5 inches of travel, it's AWESOME!!! Also the Formula Discs, they are more than adequate for stopping power, so why is everyone dissing them? Maybe I just got a good bike.
Weaknesses:
Stupid sleeve in the seat tube. I just got mine, and I have to do something about that, I can't lower my seat any more and I need it a few inches lower but I don't want to cut my seatpost. Haven't looked into it yet. Also the rebound damping, I would much rather see a shock with just compression damping. Don't get me wrong, open it up and it performs well, but close it and gets weird (I don't know how else to describe it).
Bike Setup:
Psylo XC, otherwise stock
Bottom Line:
Bottom line is I looked and looked and looked, and I couldn't find a better bike for the price. I mean, disc brakes, Judy XC (although I upgraded), GREAT frame, and good parts. It's a VERY upgradeable frame. That's the reason I bought it. Beefy tubes and nice welds = durability.
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Submitted by
scott
a Weekend Warrior
from cave creek, az, usa Date Reviewed: September 19, 2000
Favorite Trail:
trail 100
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$850.00
Strengths:
great bike for a beginner, but also agreeable to upgrades as your skill improves and you start breaking things. good looks, nice suspension, durable frame, fat tires for fast downhilling. no real problems with the components until the past few weeks. a year of pounding and grinding will do that, but overall I've had few problems.
Weaknesses:
a bit heavy, didn't like the mech disc brakes at all--squealed like pigs and were too difficult to tune; sounds like they've been recalled--wish the dudes at the bike store had mentioned that instead of selling me on a new set of xt v-brakes...don't suppose it matters now. Also, probably don't need disc brakes in the desert... ditch the pedals and buy something clipless
a great bike that keeps getting better as I upgrade worn out components. a bike you can learn on, but you will want to replace things as you go. things break--learn to live with that. I would've looked silly pushing a 2k bike around 'cos I wasn't much of a rider a year ago. now i appreciate the subtle differences between lx, xt and xtr. the brakes had to go, or i would've killed myself. my wife bought this bike for me and she did a great job, she's also been very tolerant of the different upgrades to date (which will be necessary given the pounding you'll want to do). oh yeah, it also looks cool...
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Submitted by
Brandon
a Downhiller
from Seattle, Washington, USA Date Reviewed: September 16, 2000
Favorite Trail:
powerline in government camp oregon
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$830.00
Purchased At:
pacific bycycle
Strengths:
i love everthing about this bike. i have already had 2 other full suspension bikes and i spent well over 1g on each and im more impressed with this one than the others. i dont know y some b*stards were dissin on this bike. and if u were well then fuk u!!!!
Weaknesses:
the only weakness i could find was that the breaks unless properly tuned didnt work very well
Similar Products Used:
none compare to this that ive used
Bike Setup:
stock
Bottom Line:
the bottom line is if your a beginner racer or just a weeekend racer this is the bike to have. the suspension works like a charm and the breaks work outstandingly (when properly tuned) also the frame of this bike is wonderful! this bike is a must have for any type of biker.
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Submitted by
Jeff Lund
a Cross Country Rider
from Thornhill, Ontario, Canada Date Reviewed: September 13, 2000
Favorite Trail:
anything out of the city
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$1350.00
Purchased At:
Newmarket, Ontario
Strengths:
Good forks (Judys), suspension works well, nothing in its class even came close
Weaknesses:
pedals are terrible. Although the rear shock works OK, it's not as nice as the Fox Vanilla that comes stock on the Specialized in the same category, although I couldn't stand the seating position of that bike when I test rode it.
Similar Products Used:
Gary Fisher Joshua F4
Bike Setup:
stock except for recalled brakes.
Bottom Line:
This bike is great. I was after a Gary Fisher F3, but the price was too steep - about $2,000 Canadian - and the 2000 model comes with wimpy, useless Jett forks. Gary Fisher also got rid of the rear shock lockout on the F4, which is the feature I liked best about the 1999 model.
The DS-1 handles great and scores high in the looks department. Everywhere I go people comment on it. The original brakes were completely useless, but when I took it in for its one-month tuneup the shop informed me Giant had issued a recall. The new ones work well, but they still emit a loud squeel that scares pedestrians to death when I come up behind them.
For the price, I couldn't find a better bike. Mine hasn't given me a minute of trouble, and I've done a lot of hard riding.
While a bit heavy and clunky on the road, this bike excels off road and is a great fit for anyone on a budget who likes to hit the trails.
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Submitted by
D
a Downhiller
from Victoria Date Reviewed: September 7, 2000
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$850.00
Strengths:
Good overall package for the price that you pay. The suspension is suprisingly good for an OEM product.
Weaknesses:
The frame has a flaw in welding/positioning of the rear shock. CHECK your frame regularly for cracks or deformations just above the bottom bracket pivot point.
Similar Products Used:
VPS-4
Bike Setup:
Almost stock except for a ZZYZX with the new ATC Terrex internals(it actually makes the shocks funtionable), different front der., and brake levers for better pull.
Bottom Line:
Well I have a love hate relationship with this bike.
LOVE: In my opinion you could not purchase a better bike for the price. It can take ALOT of abuse and not really whine about it.
HATE: However, if you intend to do any serious carnage on this bike you had better be a light or very nimble rider. I admit that I am not an easy rider (6'4", 200lbs), and this is probably the reason that I broke Two frames in less than Two months. Giant was excellent, and replaced them promptly. My point is that if you are into chucking the bike around (drops over 4'), you may want to consider an upgrade to a different bike. In the end let's face it, you will not see this bike in any videos or on a podium because that is not what it is designed for.
So I now own an AEON Joker which is amazing! But if you are on a budget(which I was) or are a budding freerider/downhiller I still don't think you could find a better bike. Good job Giant!
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Submitted by
Robert Goza
a Cross Country Rider
from Edwardsville,KS, USA Date Reviewed: September 6, 2000
Favorite Trail:
any
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Price Paid:
$899.00
Purchased At:
Turner Cycle
Strengths:
balanced shock travel, excellent frame design, rear shock can be easily adjusted.
Weaknesses:
Disc brakes do not have a good stopping power. A little too plush even when suspension is fully tightened.
Similar Products Used:
Specialized FSR, Canondale 800.
Bike Setup:
Medium frame, Raptor rubber, Shimano rapid fire, Deore derailer, no-name brake levers, Formula cable disc brakes, ZAC19 rims, sealed bearings and hub.
Bottom Line:
Overall a softer ride which is nice if you do a little more downhilling than cross terrain but most components on drivetrain are deore or below in quality. Braking can be improved if a hydraulic system were used instead. An economically priced full suspension bike.
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Submitted by
s lankin
a
from London Ont. Date Reviewed: August 30, 2000
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$850.00
Strengths:
it's a great ride when evreything is working.
Weaknesses:
with in two months I went through the crank, chain, cog set, rear bearings, and freewheel.
Similar Products Used:
several Treks,Schwinn,Canondale
Bike Setup:
presently stock with Panaracer "Pyro" rear tire
Bottom Line:
I like it when I'm not back at the store getting it fixed. They keep saying "It's all the rain we've had." Well, I thought it was a mountain bike....... I now refer to it as a Giant piece of garbage.
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Submitted by
King
a
from Vancouver Date Reviewed: August 24, 2000
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Bottom Line:
I have been riding the bike pretty hard for the last few months. I only bought the frame from Giant.. Putting all the parts I wanted to see on this bike. By no means is this a high end bike. It has some good components but falls short to the quality of a true freeride bike. This is where the you pay for what you get.
All in all, I feel that the money I spent on this frame was well worth it. I am sure that I will bust the frame but that is the price you pay for the riding you do.
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Submitted by
Greg
a Downhiller
from Walnut Creek, CA Date Reviewed: August 20, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Northstar, Tahoe
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Purchased At:
Demoed at Northstar for a day
Strengths:
Great Shocks, and brakes.
Weaknesses:
Brakes sqeak horribly. Not only the bike I rented, but almost all other bikes I saw on the trails were sqeaking even worse than mine. I took it to the shop and the guy made it better, but in 20 minutes it was back to how it was normally. The seat makes you hug it much more, and after the first day of Mountain biking I had bruises and marks all up my thighs. OUCH!
Bottom Line:
I may have complained more, but it is actually a pretty good bike for the price. I'm sure there is some way to fix the brakes, and the seat is always replaceable. I wouldn't reccomend it to people trying their first full suspension cause thats what my friend did and he said he had no control and it felt a lot different.
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Submitted by
steve k
a
from allentown, pa Date Reviewed: August 20, 2000
Favorite Trail:
streets and stuff
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$850.00
Purchased At:
bike shop
Strengths:
everything
Weaknesses:
back brake screeches, i am working on the problem tho. seats a bit ruff for long rides if your are sitting. but you should get used to it, i did. but depends
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
stock, tires are kenda all season treads
Bottom Line:
shocks are good, brakes are sweet, riding it is a joy, i have rode it for like 4 months now , i took off knobs and put on kenda all season suggested by the bike shop, the tires great grips to the street real nice, shocks are good. over all buy it if your on a budget and like to street ride, do jumps go off trail or a bit, or ride hard. its tuff, i ride on it on the streets, off trail, any place i need to go or want to go, it handles it fine. even on loose rock and dirt.
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Submitted by
dog man bucket
a Cross Country Rider
from victoria, B.C. ,canada Date Reviewed: August 13, 2000
Favorite Trail:
n/a
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Well most people think the disks suck but if u tighten them a bit there awsome very very plush, light, and smoth ride. Takes in falls well. If your under 130 it has almost no bobbing. I like it cause of the price, and your geting good componints, and its very solid.
Weaknesses:
Well i would say the only weakness would have to be for some people the brakes and i just recamend trade them in for hydors and if you dont have the cash the good v-brakes
Similar Products Used:
GT I-Drive
Bike Setup:
very good its not a cheao one like those ones that have been converted from hard tails to f/s
Bottom Line:
Its a very good bike for the money
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Submitted by
Keith Ho
a Weekend Warrior
from Mountain View, CA, USA Date Reviewed: August 4, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Skyline, Northstar, Tahoe Rim
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
It is a strong and fun downhill bike. The price was good and performence is outstanding. I do all kind of drop on the trail. The bike hold up petty good.
Weaknesses:
the weight a bit heavy but what can you get for $850. My bike shop replace my front and rear disc brakes. It makes noise when brake lightly on the rear brake.
Similar Products Used:
Grant 2000 Warp DS2
Bike Setup:
Stock
Bottom Line:
I love this bike. I have wait long enough saving to get a disc brakes bike. I am happy that I got this bike. You can not find any brand that can give good performence and price at the same time. I will recommend anybody who want to start in mountain biking and want full supension bike at the same time:)
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Submitted by
Bike Man
a Cross Country Rider
from Rideville Date Reviewed: July 12, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Anything with drops over 10 ft. and very scary and technical
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
It is a great and very strong bike for an exceptionally good price! It puts up with my weight of 150 lbs like nothing! I can do any drop that i want with it and there is no problem!
Weaknesses:
Not enough travel...theres a fair bit but if your doing drops like me from 10 to 15 feet and landing on a flat surface you need more! I am upgrading the front shock to marzocchi mnster t's and upgrading the back for 300 bucks to 9 inches!
Also change the piece of shiatt derrailleur they suck some harsh penniss! Get XTR the only way to go the stx rc or now deore doesnt last the bumps trade it before you buy it and youll be fine... really the only problem..that and the fuc*ckin pedals!
Similar Products Used:
Specializd FSR extreme, Kona Stab Dee Lux, Kona Stinky Deelux, Brodie 8 ball, Kona firemountain.
This bike is overall great! If you plan to do some more serious jumping or downhilling upgrade the shocks and the derrailleur... also upgrade the casette to a 9spd, better for climbing hills! If you are more of a free rider than dont change much but the gears....
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Submitted by
steve k
a Racer
from allentown, PA, USA Date Reviewed: July 5, 2000
Favorite Trail:
streets, lehigh parkway, and just all around my house
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
everything even the brakes, price and kicking design and colors! this is the perfect bike!
Weaknesses:
the stupid peddle straps, get them taken off before you buy the bike unless you like them. otherwise none
Similar Products Used:
fat heavy FULL STEEL huffy mtb i trashed it hard tho :)
Bike Setup:
stock
Bottom Line:
the bike handles great, and the brakes work wonders in all conditions, rain, dry, mud, downhill whatever they work great. the suspension is nice and its never bottomed out for me yet, and i usually do max 5 foot fails and stuff just moderate hopping curbs and jumping offa them and getting air however i can. the bike handles well on climbs and DH, and nice on the streets and good grip with a pair of semi slicks for street riding. just if you want the disc brakes and FS for under 1g get this bike you will be pleased. but demo it first cause everyone has there own opinions, by the way i am 115 and 5'6 and i am 14, just so you can compare the stuff i do with my weight and all.
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Submitted by
King
a Weekend Warrior
from Van City Date Reviewed: June 5, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Bike Setup:
2000 Warp DS1 Frame with stock rear shock. 99 Manitou X-Vert R (4.5 inch travel) Race Face Turbine LP Crank/Rings Race Face Riser Bar, BB, Headset Shimano XT components Avid 2.0 Brakes with speed dial Levers Sun Rhyno Lite Rims Shimano 545 Alum Cage DH/DS pedals
Bottom Line:
I bought this frame so I could swap all my 98 Hammer Race parts over. Well.. I haven't got it back from the shop yet but when I do.. I will give you all an update.
The bike is a great ride. Stock or not.
I'm really excited to see what this frame can really do.
I'll post some images up on my web site when it's ready.
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Submitted by
Corstian
a Downhiller
from Mississauga, Ontario, Canada Date Reviewed: June 4, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Anything technical
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Price. Excellent frame.
Weaknesses:
Some individual components are of suspect, but there is always give and take in a package like this.
Similar Products Used:
Shopped Haro, Trek, Specialized, yada-yada-yada
Bike Setup:
I have added the following to the stock DS-1: SH XT Rr D, SH XT shifters, SH LX crankset, SH M858 clip pedals, firm springs in the Judies, and a Black Spire Ring gear protector
Bottom Line:
Great deal for the money. I have two friends riding the stock bikes and they are very happy. I am a larger type guy, weighing in at 230 lbs and 6'3" in my socks. The shifting up-grades were necessary for me on hill climbs. The stock STXRc (Now Deore)just did not like my weight and power on hills. I bent the Suntour PFF big ring gear on a log and rather than replace just the ring (machine punched un-hardened steel)I went for the crankset with the protector for obvious reasons. Firm springs in the Judies were required due to my size. Love the bike. I ride virtually everyday and I still smile when I get on. I ride it hard and it has not failed me yet.
Again you could complain about individual components, but, as a package there really is nothing to complain about. I going to flame this one up as high as it goes.
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Submitted by
JulesG
a Weekend Warrior
from Brisbane, Oz Date Reviewed: June 4, 2000
Stock with Shimano 323 SPD. Front derailleur is STXrc. Diatech Spiral Stop mechanical discs as standard.
Bottom Line:
Having left my trusty Saracen hardtail in the UK, I rapidly developed withdrawal symptoms and began to look around for a replacement. After having spent hours in the local cycle shops I came across the 2000 Warp DS-1 at the bargain price of $(Aus)1400 - $250 below stock price (Thanks PlanetCycle) :-))
I had read many posts flaming the previously fitted Formula MD-1 discs and was concerned that the Diatech discs would perform in a similar fashion ;-/ However the test ride allayed my fears and, with a little tweaking of the rear caliper to reduce brake lever travel more to my liking, I have found them to be equal to my Avid V's in similar conditions (Admittedly not much snow here in Brisbane!)with no evidence of squealing.
Ride quality is smooth with minimal biopacing on uphills and stonking performance downhill with the Tyrannoraptors handling loose surfaces with no skittering. Componentry is functional and has performed faultlessly after 2-3 ft dropoffs (I/m only a newbie downhiller remember ;-)) and on sludgy trails. The Judy XC shocks are plush and the rear GTM-7 shock handles my 81kg bod with minimal biopacing on steep uphills. Rims and Frame are bombproof with a high quality finish and smooth welds.
In summary the bike cannot be beaten for value and would provide an ideal introduction to the wonderful world of xc or downhill. Veterans will no doubt look elsewhere, but if they look beyond the "lower end" specs of some components and the past "reputation" of Giant, they will find that the overall package cannot be beaten for value and overall performance.
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Submitted by
Rich
a Weekend Warrior
from Cambria Heights, NY Date Reviewed: May 17, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Alley Park
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Price, 100mm Judy XC's, Frame, Disk Brakes, Looks
Weaknesses:
Squeally disk brakes and cranks
Similar Products Used:
Raleigh m55, DS-2
Bike Setup:
Stock, but would like to eventually upgrade the cranks, and possibly throw on LX/XT front/rear derailluers and some clipless pedals.
Bottom Line:
Basically, this bike in my opinion is an excellent tool for someone getting into freeriding/DH or even XC. When I went looking for a bike my budget was at $1000 period. The guy at the shop initially introduced me to the Cannondale super v400, but later conceided that giant offered a quality FS product in my price/skill range that was selling like hotcakes...and it came with disk brakes!!! When I saw the bike and the $849 price tag, I was sold. I would recommend this bike to anyone looking to get into some serious mountain-biking on a serious budget. 12345 flamin' chills for the overall package!!!!!!!!!!!
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Submitted by
Jan Lusso
a Weekend Warrior
from Redding, CA, USA Date Reviewed: May 12, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Paulina Plunge
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Value, performance, rider comfort, disk brakes, finish
Weaknesses:
Weight, lower end components
Similar Products Used:
Warp DS-2, XTC DS-2
Bike Setup:
Stock except for addition of clip-in pedals
Bottom Line:
I've riden a hardtail for 12 years and decided it was time to switch over to a dualie. I was skeptical about how the rear suspension would affect my climbing abilities but so far it doesn't seem to be a problem. I can only get out to ride every other week or so and didn't want to drop to much cash on a new bike, but I didn't want to wind up with a cheap piece of crap either. This bike was perfect because it offers middle of the road components (i.e. mechanical disc brakes, judy xl's) and looks pretty cool to boot. It was also the most comfortable bike i demoed. As far as the weight is concerned the way I look at it is I'm probably 20 lbs. overweight anyway so why the hell get jacked up over a bike thats a couple of pounds heavier. I would recommend this bike to any weekend warrior. I've beat the dickens out of it and so far it's held up pretty well. As far as the brakes are concerned I was worried based on other peoples comments but I have experienced no problems so far, plus they do a go job of stoppping me.
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Submitted by
rogers jim
a Weekend Warrior
from La Mesa,Ca. 91941 Date Reviewed: May 6, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Cuyamaca
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Price,Quality,Looks
Weaknesses:
Somme cheap components,Cranks
Similar Products Used:
Specialized FSR
Bike Setup:
Stock
Bottom Line:
I shopped HARD for a great bike, and I was willing to pay more than what I payed for this bike. I saw this bike and started looking at the components and figured it was over a $1000.. to my surprise the sales guy told me it was only $849!! I can't wait to see what they go on sale for at year end. A best Buy.
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Submitted by
Laurie Schmidt
a Weekend Warrior
from Port Coquitlam, Canada Date Reviewed: April 28, 2000
Favorite Trail:
ladies only & executioner
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
After shopping around for over a year, you cannot beat the value of this bike. Full suspension, cable acutated disc brakes for under $1500.00. As I read in a review "80% of the fun for 40% of the price."
Weaknesses:
Lower end components, but hey that's the price you pay, besides you push the shifter, the bike shifts, what more do you want. I would also feel better about replacing a $40 deraileur than a $140 one.
I have ridden this bike for 4 months now on the North Shore without a problem. As I said earlier this is a great bike for the price and with a little upgrading it is a fantastic bike.
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Submitted by
Ringer
a Weekend Warrior
from Vancouver Date Reviewed: April 27, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Severed Dick
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
-Price -What you get for that price -Handles Sweet -Sealed Cart With a solid 1 pivot Setup. And that *Lifetime Warrenty*.
Weaknesses:
-Some of the components are bit weak. -Pedals suck! -Chain Slap is pretty bad even in gears where you don't expect it. All in all.. Not too much to complain about.
Similar Products Used:
Warp 99, Trek Y22
Bike Setup:
I demo'd the Stock bike but mine will be set up with: -Manitou FS Ti 80mm -Race Face Cranks, Seat Post, Bottom B, Riser Bars, Headset. -98 XT everything else. -Sun Rhino Lights -Axiom (Norco) DH Stem.
Bottom Line:
I will be buying the Frame for $500.00 CDN. I think for the price it is an excellent bike for someone looking at getting into an FS ride. As for the stock bike.. I didn't mind it. Like I said.. For the DS1. I would like to see more LX/XT parts.. A little better components would make this bike one of the best for the $1000.00 range.
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Submitted by
UnSane Person
a Downhiller
from TORQUAY, AUSTRALIA Date Reviewed: April 26, 2000
Favorite Trail:
IronBark Basin
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
good quality frame, good shocks RockShox Judy XC, budget banger for all club events, even XC + Downhill.. cable disc brakes are reasonable, (better than most "v's")
Weaknesses:
rear shock will need upgrading, and also triple-clamp front forks not recomended for use. as any good bike it is popular amoung theives, i know i have lost 1 already...
Similar Products Used:
1999 ds1, no others are as good for the money....
Bike Setup:
My Bike: upgraded parts: clipless platform pedals, dnm st8-rc rear shock cateye trip comp.. MD1 mechanical disk brakes, oury mtb Grips for hangers and Profile Downhill Hangers and tioga tyres... good package overall
Bottom Line:
fantastic for the price and good enough to race on weekends, aswell as street riding or even XC. cant go wrong with it. 4 flamin'chills overall. cant beat it...
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Submitted by
dirt doc
a Weekend Warrior
from canada Date Reviewed: April 16, 2000
Favorite Trail:
water tower
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
fat frame, judys, tires,seat
Weaknesses:
!!!TOE CLIPS!!! ,loud brakes, the warp name, rear shock
!!!!TOE CLIPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Similar Products Used:
THE DS2 , NORCO VPS-4
Bike Setup:
stock with frt fender, welgo pedals, judy xl , axiom DH bar maxis mofo tires
Bottom Line:
when I first got it I took it off some drops and it held up nicely. the brakes where noisy as hell and still are (the only good part is canadian one get formulas ) . I was a bit dissapointed about the gtm 7 rear shock hopefully I will have enouf to buy a fox soon. the zac 19 rims are bullit proof. all the weakneses can easly be fixed
by the way I sold the toe clips to a braty neibour
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Chris Ryan
a Downhiller
from Ontario Date Reviewed: April 16, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Any thing steep and rough
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
-Very stable. -Handles well. -Soaks up all the bumps. -Looks great -Disc brakes -Price
Weaknesses:
Nothing
Similar Products Used:
Trek VRX 400 Specialized FSR
Bike Setup:
Stock from the store
Bottom Line:
-Great bike! -Won't find a better bike in this price range -Very strong in rough sections -The only reason the brakes don't work, is you don't know how to set them up! -Very stable
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Submitted by
Paul
a Weekend Warrior
from Agnes Banks Date Reviewed: April 14, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Baukham Hills valley traks
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Bike strength, price for a full suspension bike!!!!!, looks great.
Weaknesses:
Rear brakes have not yet fully set in. However after adsjusting them per the manual they were perfect.
Bike Setup:
Stock from the factory floor
Bottom Line:
I have read all the reviews on the brakes the bike the setup, everything... the brakes work, they stop the bike when you want it if you adjust them as per the manual, I have taken the bike down steep cliffs and also sets of 4 foot drops and other experienced bikers(5 years) say what I say, THE RIDE IS GREAT.
But remember you pay for what you get, the more you can spend upfront is better in all cases. However for $1700 this is a bike to look over before you make that purchase.
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Patrick Ryan
a Downhiller
from Calgary Date Reviewed: April 4, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Devil's Drop
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Great fork with removeable boots, although if your main use is downhilling, un upgrade to a Judy XL is recomended. Crazy hot red COLOUR!!!
Weaknesses:
None so far, other than the bad rep for the recalled formula mechanical discs.
Similar Products Used:
Specialized FSR Gary Fisher Level Betty
Bike Setup:
Upgrade to Judy XL
Bottom Line:
Great setup A great introduction to the crazy world of downhill. Most of all, if a 16 year old can race it, anyone can! It has a little too much travel for a xc bike though. Make sure you demo it! I give it 5 Flamin' Chilis for a great bike with great value and to counter the guy who gave it 1.
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Submitted by
ben
a Downhiller
from vic, australia Date Reviewed: April 1, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
wicked brakes once worn in, judys work a treat, a great bike for the price, travel not so long that it is un useable as an every day bike
Weaknesses:
none
Similar Products Used:
specialized rockhopper fsr specialized fsr big hit
Bike Setup:
very good considering the price that the judys must add to the manerfacturing costs
Bottom Line:
a bloody fantastic bike
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Submitted by
Shannon Armstrong
a Weekend Warrior
from Sydney Australia Date Reviewed: March 21, 2000
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Everything, price, handling, weight, forks..... except the brakes
Weaknesses:
Brakes. But you will be happy to learn that Giant have recalled ALL the brakes and are replacing them with a new (improved) calliper. At least they are here in Sydney!
Similar Products Used:
none really
Bike Setup:
factory
Bottom Line:
I like it. My riding experience is not phenominal but i do ride with the police in Sydney and I wish they supplied me with a bike that handles as well as this Giant. I too had problems with the releasing of te brakes, but upon service i was informed that giant were recalling ALL the formula MD disk brakes from this bike and were replacing them with a new calliper. Exact specs unknown. Overall I like it!
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Submitted by
STINGING NETTLE
a Weekend Warrior
from seattle Date Reviewed: March 16, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
frame and fork
Weaknesses:
the brakes on this bike when they worked they operated well in fair weather conditions. I had the bike for 2 days and one of the calipers froze up. I had another caliper stop working and I broke a 3rd. caliiper off of the mounts to the frame and at this point for safety reasons I returned the bike. I was doing strictly trail riding , no drops or jumping. I was very dissapointed and have done some research and alot of people have had these problems. I hope Formula is able to fix this problem before someone is hurt because of brake failure
Similar Products Used:
specialized rockhopper
Bike Setup:
freeride trail use
Bottom Line:
This bike in my opinion would be a good bike for someone to ride on gravel roads and very easy trails only due to the fact of poor braking. I think cable actuated disc have improved but they still have a long way to go. This bike would be much better with a good v-brake. A good bike for the money if it would stay together and work properly.
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Submitted by
neil meier
a Downhiller
from nanaimo Date Reviewed: March 15, 2000
Favorite Trail:
oakridge
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
best buy ever in full suspension!!
Weaknesses:
none
Similar Products Used:
98 warp ds2(not even close to as good)
Bike Setup:
stock
Bottom Line:
i don't get why these people are saying this bike isn't very good because it's da bomb!!! I do 10 foot drops on this bike and it handles them great. A good buy for a DH bike. i love this bike!
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Submitted by
the docter
a Weekend Warrior
from kamloops Date Reviewed: March 14, 2000
Favorite Trail:
the coasters
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
the fork,(judy xc), fat down tube, the brakes, great value
Weaknesses:
the crank and rims
Similar Products Used:
warp ds-2, vps-4
Bike Setup:
when I buy it im putting a set of judy XL forks on
Bottom Line:
good bike for a first time free rider but not if your going to modify the HELL out of it
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N/A
a Weekend Warrior
from NA,NA,NA Date Reviewed: March 9, 2000
Favorite Trail:
the treeeger
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
The forks, Judys
Weaknesses:
The rest of the bike. I am completely dispointed with this bike.
Similar Products Used:
GT XCR 5000
Bike Setup:
Same as original
Bottom Line:
I don't like it. Nearly all of the parts on the bike have broken or bent. I have oinly been riding normally and my old bike had lasted me for three years before I sold it. I had no problems with my old bike but this one I have had non stop problems with.
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N/A
a Weekend Warrior
from ,Argentena City,Argentina,USA Date Reviewed: March 9, 2000
Favorite Trail:
the skeeler
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
The forks, Judys
Weaknesses:
The rest of the bike. I have had nothing but problems with this bike. Nearly everything on it has broken or bent after normal riding. I am very disapointed with this bike.
Similar Products Used:
GT XCR 5000
Bike Setup:
Original setup
Bottom Line:
It is a very disapointing bike. Many problems with it.
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Submitted by
eric alexander
a Racer
from erie,pa,16508 Date Reviewed: February 28, 2000
Favorite Trail:
all the ones i ride
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
it has a great response with rough trail handleing, braking is outstanding and also quick.
Weaknesses:
not to many, i like the ride.
Similar Products Used:
gt rts
Bike Setup:
stock products, azonic pdw rizer bar
Bottom Line:
i love this bike, it is one of the best buys for a full suspension with full disc brakes, and a hek of a ride for an upcoming dh or xc racer or rider
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