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Submitted by
reggie151
a Weekend Warrior
from reggie151@verizon.net
Date Reviewed: April 14, 2009 | | Favorite Trail: | 40 acres | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$90.00 | | Purchased At: | private | | Strengths: | great frame handle's well. it is my favorite bike and i own a few. i have a specialized and a giant that are newer but the fisher is the one i grab most often. | | Weaknesses: | the frame and bars are the only original parts, it has been rebuilt several times. next time i rebuild it ill send it to ultimate powder coating for a fresh new look. | | Similar Products Used: | kona giant specialized | | Bike Setup: | xtr drive train Yettie bars xt shifters specialized front tire maxis incisor rear avid disk break xt wheels | | Bottom Line: | great product | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Frank
a Weekend Warrior
from Casper, WY, USA
Date Reviewed: October 13, 2004 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$1200.00 | | Purchased At: | Mountain Sports | | Strengths: | Very light, very strong frame. Deore LX shifters work very well. Love the WTB Raptor tires. This bike HAULS BUTT going uphill and downhill. I can reach over 20mph climbing uphill and well over 40mph downhill. I've C-country raced against Treks and high end K2s and still smoke them. | | Weaknesses: | WTB Raptor tires wear quickly, in about 600 miles. | | Similar Products Used: | Specialized Rock Hopper
RU Rock Ridge | | Bike Setup: | Stock plus Garmin GPS | | Bottom Line: | Excellent bike for the value. Long live Gary Fisher! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
J M
a Cross Country Rider
from Canada
Date Reviewed: November 22, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$1000.00 | | Purchased At: | Bungays | | Strengths: | I would say the frame and the wheels are the selling factors for the bike. Everything else isn't very good. | | Weaknesses: | The bike is quite heavy, but reasonable for the price (around 26.5 lbs)The parts don't last long. Ruined cassette and crank after 3 months. | | Bike Setup: | Bear frame for now, planning to custom build it. | | Bottom Line: | This is my spare bike as I recently bought a 2002 Specialized Stumjumper HT. After racing with it, I found out I enjoy the Gary Fisher way better. This is due to the frame geometry, it's great.I think that Gary Fisher bikes are of way better quality tha Specialized if you ask me. I will defenatly be racing with the Fisher next year with all the new parts! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
TD
a Cross Country Rider
from Birmingham, AL
Date Reviewed: April 7, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$800.00 | | Strengths: | Great feel, good design, strong frame. | | Weaknesses: | Shock, seat, tires, stem | | Similar Products Used: | Specialized, Bridgestone, Miata, Trek, Giant | | Bike Setup: | Marzocchi shock, gel seat, lx drivetrain, panaracer fire pro tires, azonic riser, kore stem, stock shifters/brakes | | Bottom Line: | This bike has kicked booty! I bought it because I destroyed a Trek and they wouldn't honor my warranty. I didn't have cash to buy a more expensive Fisher so I got the Kaitai and I'm glad I didn't spend more. I love the feel, the color and the handling. I'm just now replacing the Alivio crank. I blew the shock out about a year ago. Replaced the handlebar/stem/tires. Stock shifters and brakes (new pads) still work great. Front/rear deraileur both replaced. I'll still stick with this frame and just replace the parts as they get demolished. Three years of great XC riding and still going strong. | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris K
a Weekend Warrior
from Boston, MA, USA
Date Reviewed: January 30, 2003 | | Favorite Trail: | Lynn Woods | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$800.00 | | Purchased At: | International Bike in Brighton, MA | | Strengths: | - Nice entry-level to intermediate bike
- Component spec is not bad for the price
- Light and stiff
- Tough, tough, tough! | | Weaknesses: | - Bontrager cracks and chain rings just didn't hold up
- A little heavy compared to XC bikes coming out this year | | Similar Products Used: | Trek and GT hardtails | | Bike Setup: | I have had this bike setup for everything from light XC to beefy freeride. | | Bottom Line: | Someone said to me once, "A Gary Fisher freeride hardtail? I've never seen one of those before!" That pretty much says it all. My bike has been abused, there is no other word for it. I bought this bike when I first started mountain biking three years ago. It allowed for a quick learning curve and I was able to transition to an intermediate rider without a problem. Then came the drops. I was addicted. 2', 3', 5', this humble hardtail handled everything and didn't blink once. In its element on the tight singletrack and solid on the drops, its only enemy was rocky downhills (I have the scars to prove it). But hey, you can't make an $800 hardtail behave like a downhill bike.
Over the years I broke everything on this bike, breaks, drivetrain, wheelset, etc. But I was really surprised and delighted that it survived as well as it did. Genesis geometry be damned, this is just a solid bike for anyone who wants to learn to love mountain biking. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ben Halverson
a Weekend Warrior
from Platteville, WI, USA
Date Reviewed: August 27, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | quarry park, Madison WI | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$800.00 | | Purchased At: | Wares Cycle, Milwaukee WI | | Strengths: | Great Climber, smooth on the downhills. very upgradable | | Weaknesses: | A little slow in the technical sections. On the heavy side. | | Similar Products Used: | Mongoose IBOC Zero G | | Bottom Line: | Best bike for the buck. Beautiful frame. Genesis geometry is genious. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave S
a Cross Country Rider
from St. Louis
Date Reviewed: April 4, 2002 | | Favorite Trail: | Castlewood River Trail | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$850.00 | | Purchased At: | Sun & Ski Sports | | Strengths: | Strong bike, good components, strong wheelsets, rides smooth, good fork, great price. | | Weaknesses: | Some components could've been better, the tires are useless in muddy or rocky conditions, the pedals were useless unless used with the pedal cage, and unfortunately they don't make this bike any more. | | Similar Products Used: | 94 Diamondback Outlook, 90 Diamondback Apex | | Bike Setup: | I alternate pedals with Time Atac MTB and Shimano MX-30 platforms; WTB Velociraptor in rear; Answer Pro Taper 1" riser bar. | | Bottom Line: | This bike is great. The first thing you need to do is replace the semi-slick tires, switch out the pedals with some beefy platform or clipless pedals (unless you prefer the pedal cages). After that, you should be good to go. Like I said, some of the components were a little weak, but I wouldn't replace any of them until you need to. If you are a beginner, this bike is a more than perfect starter. If you have been riding for a while, this bike is awesome. If you are a heavy rider, 230+, this bike is still awesome. If you are wanting to get into racing, this bike is right for you. If you can still find one and need a new bike, go buy it now. If you can't find it, go for the Hoo Koo E Koo. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Matty P
a
from Massachusetts
Date Reviewed: October 13, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$650.00 | | Purchased At: | Franks Bike Barn | | Strengths: | Frame, bontrager superstock wheelset, judy xc shocks are great. | | Weaknesses: | Pedals are weak, seat is uncomfortable, brakes and levers aren't the greatest, and Deore front derailleur provides weak shirting. | | Similar Products Used: | Specialized, Kona, Trek | | Bike Setup: | ALl stock except terry liberator, sure foot 4 pedals, velociraptors, and avid arch rivals whith speed dial 7 levers. | | Bottom Line: | For the money the best bike around, genis geometry is great.
has shown no serious weaknesses even when ridden hard at Mt. Snow. I race on this bike and its great, very efficient. A great bike to buy, but too bad they stopped making them in 2000, maybe some stores still have them lying around or even a used one is good.
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Submitted by
CurlyBob
a Racer
from Boulder CO, orig Wales UK
Date Reviewed: August 13, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$699.00 | | Purchased At: | Docs | | Bottom Line: | I submitted a review a while back and now have changed my bike, found a used Klein Attitude comp for 650 and upgraded to a sweet bike!, I miss the genesis geometry, but that was all, the Klein is so much more responsive its scary, I since sold the Kaitai and love to fly by people riding them out on the trails, go buy a Klein! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jeff
a Cross Country Rider
from San Antonio
Date Reviewed: August 8, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Schnabel Park, Mainland | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$750.00 | | Purchased At: | Ride-Away Bicycles | | Strengths: | Genesis geometry is SOOO nice. I love this bike. Judy XC fork is smooth, gives me no trouble, and I haven't been able to hurt the rims at all, even with my aggressive riding habits. | | Weaknesses: | Crankset sucks. Bent it one week after I got the bike, so now it's XT. Seat hurts bad. Got a Terry Liberator. Flat bar was too low for me, and the pedals are a joke. | | Similar Products Used: | Diamondback Sorrento, Raleigh M-80, Kona, Trek | | Bike Setup: | Time ATAC Alium clipless, Easton MonkeyLite Riser bar, XT cranks, Terry Liberator seat, soon to be Avid brakes. | | Bottom Line: | Overall, this bike rocks. I bought it because it was (relatively) cheap, and I liked the Genesis geometry. I didn't have the cash to buy a better equipped bike, but I wanted to start riding soon, and figured I could always upgrade later. That plan has worked out really well, and I love this bike. They quit the name this year, and the Marlin is the same bike now. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nick
a Cross Country Rider
from NH
Date Reviewed: August 5, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Pemi trails in white mountains (NH) | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$700.00 | | Purchased At: | Naults in Nashua | | Strengths: | Great hillclimber, goes fast Super light I regu;arly take it off 5-9 foot rigdes and cliffs and it works great | | Weaknesses: | OK brakes | | Similar Products Used: | Sugar series | | Bike Setup: | The bikes drivetrain is all shimano | | Bottom Line: | Great for XC, racing and going fast | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Justin Wood
a
from Windham
Date Reviewed: August 5, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$270.00 | | Purchased At: | Naults | | Strengths: | Very light. Good bike for advanced young rider. Super tough frame. Aluminum frame. Shimano front and rear deraileurs. | | Weaknesses: | Water bottle mount not very easy to place bottle in. Components arent the greatest. Small travel on forks. Only 63mm. | | Bottom Line: | Excellent bike I love it. I toook it down an expert downhill and the bike did excellent. The frame is very tough. I would reccomend this bike to anyone who is a young rider and is into big stuff. The best bike!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nathan
a Cross Country Rider
from Houston, Texas
Date Reviewed: July 27, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Ant Hills | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Outstanding Entry Level CC Bike
Good Wheels
Decent Brakes
Good Gear Set
Comfortable Seat | | Weaknesses: | The stock straight handlebar made my hands go numb and ache after 20 or so miles of riding. Replaced now with an Easton Monkey Lite Riser Bar | | Bike Setup: | Stock Bike set up; Time Atac Pedals, Easton Monkey Lite Riser Bar (ultra sweet) | | Bottom Line: | Love this Bike ! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Justin Wood
a Weekend Warrior
from windham
Date Reviewed: July 3, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | Tested or demo'ed only | | Price Paid: |
$850.00 | | Purchased At: | Naults | | Strengths: | Very light bike. Easy to lift over large logs and thngs. Very good shocks, i never have been able to bottom them out. Good shifting but if you are going slow and you try to shift up it sometimes is hard. | | Weaknesses: | Seat is very uncomfortable if you are riding siting down.First gear is to easy to pedal in I never really go below third gear. | | Bottom Line: | If anyone wanted a good bike that is capable of taking some good abuse i would recommend this bike. It is not the best bike for racing but it wil do the job. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
joe veinotte
a Weekend Warrior
from hollis me usa
Date Reviewed: June 19, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | pride corner(for now) | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$725.00 | | Purchased At: | bicycle habitat | | Strengths: | they made this bike for me...the judy xc is fantastic responsive and comfortable.wheels and tire combo is perfect for my riding.9 speed.very rugged bike lots of bang for your money.i love this bike.it is assembled with a host of excellent parts from top to bottom. | | Weaknesses: | the seat...is the most uncomfortable .they don't make this fantastic bike any more. | | Similar Products Used: | others have been 1999 kaitai and raleigh m-60 | | Bottom Line: | this bike kicks serious a**.it's the best bike i've had so far.gary did his homework onthese bikes.this is a good bike for the weekend warrior to the hard core rider.go out and find a left over and ride one. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Richard Ledoigt
a Weekend Warrior
from Reading, MA, USA
Date Reviewed: June 11, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | black mountains, brittany | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$700.00 | | Purchased At: | Buchika sports, Salem, NH | | Strengths: | Frame with Genesys geometry, travel-adjustable fork, relatively light, coherent component package | | Weaknesses: | Saddle (WTB SST-Brick-X), basic brake system non-existent in the mud, 31.6mm seat tube diameter limits seatposts choice. | | Similar Products Used: | Wheeler 5800 | | Bike Setup: | Time ATAC clipless pedals, Profile riser, Selle Italia Flite saddle. | | Bottom Line: | Very nice package, unfortunately discontinued in 2001 but close to the HKEK line.
This bike made me a better rider, I needed that geometry but didn't know it. I'm 5'10" and ride a Medium (17') with a 24" top tube and a short stem (90mm). Low standover, good position and lots of room to move around the bike.
Same thing for the riser, I never had one before and when I put this one on, I really was amazed. Climbs just as well as before and much more comfortable on the wrists.
The Judy XC set up to 100mm of travel is (very) heavy but takes a beating with a smile, very plush too. The easy way to shave off a pound on this bike is to change the fork but I love the way it works and at 27 pounds the bike is not too heavy anyway.
Next upgrade: The brakes and rear tire (front raptor is good, rear is for hardpack).
It is not an FS/XC so a bit of discomfort can be expected but the WTB saddle is not one of their best, swap it.
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Submitted by
Derek Wyatt
a Weekend Warrior
from Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Date Reviewed: June 2, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | durham forest | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$600.00 | | Purchased At: | silent sports | | Strengths: | Frame, definately the frame... great climber, handles great. | | Weaknesses: | Crank needs upgrading but it's not super crucial... probably gonna get some clipless first. | | Bike Setup: | stock | | Bottom Line: | This is a fantastic bike if you can still grab one! It's a discontinued line which makes the price fantastic. It's a serious climber, well built and has a seriously wicked frame (gary... genesis geometry... stupid marketing name but amazing design!). If you're looking to get a real mountain bike (my last one was a raleigh), need a fantastic deal and some serious metal, grab this bike. If you are simply aching to spend a fortune for the same great quality then you had best go elsewhere. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Will Harrell
a Cross Country Rider
from Fairfax, Va, USA
Date Reviewed: May 16, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Fountainhead, Wakefield, Shaffers Farm | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$600.00 | | Purchased At: | Performance Bikes Springfield | | Strengths: | -Great Frame, Genesis Geometry Rocks!!
-Well spec'd out for the price.
-Judy XC Fork, muy bien.
-weight (for the price, its pretty good) | | Weaknesses: | -brakes blow
-crankset could be better
-Bontarager Superstock wheelset is week
-WTB seat is horrible, a brick would be a better deal | | Similar Products Used: | -trek 6000 (upgraded)
-Fisher Tassajara | | Bike Setup: | -Mavic 517 rims on XT hubs
-New saddle
| | Bottom Line: | This was my first real mountain bike and I loved it. There were some weaknesses but I really enjoyed riding her. This is a great bike for someone just getting a taste of the sport and that wants a bike that will perform well. If you are a hardcore trail rider then it may be worth your while to step up to a better spec'd out bike. I just sold my Kaitai and am now prodealing a 2001 Mt. Tam (kick ass!!). I would have stayed with the KaiTai if I didn't get such a great deal on the Mt. Tam ($800 dollars brand-new). Since I am beginning to get into racing and I felt it was time to upgrade the ol' KaiTai. But anyway, I really enjoyed riding the bike and I would highly recommend it to anyone who is interested in the sport. It performs well, is cheap, and has good components for the money. Good luck on your bike hunt!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andrea
a Weekend Warrior
from Livonia, MI, USA
Date Reviewed: May 14, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Ogema Hills | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$780.00 | | Purchased At: | Macomb Schwinn | | Strengths: | 6061 frame, judy xc shock, genesis geometry | | Weaknesses: | pedals,brakes | | Bike Setup: | Upgrades include: time atac alium pedals, bontrager fs2000 leather/titanium saddle, panaracer fire xc tires | | Bottom Line: | This is a great bike for the money. I have rode this bike in terrible conditions and it has performed great. The frame is solid and the geometry makes for great climbing and descents. The main strength of this bike is the way it climbs compared to other bikes I have ridden. Clipless pedals are a must first upgrade. Also, the WTB tires that came with the bike are great for racing, but aren't great for muddy or wet leaf covered trails. My next upgrade will include new brakes. The OEM brakes provided do the job, but lack any kind of power. The Kaitai has been discontinued for the 2001 year, but the 2001 Gary Fisher HKEK is comparable. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Kavall
a Cross Country Rider
from Trenton, NJ
Date Reviewed: March 26, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Any place that's open | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$750.00 | | Purchased At: | Knapps Cyclery | | Strengths: | Sturdy frame, Light and strong wheelset, overall drivetrain has functioned flawlessly. The frame is not butted. | | Weaknesses: | Brakes could do with some improvement. The frame is not butted. | | Similar Products Used: | Test rode similar GT's, Giant's, Cannondales, Trek's, and Specialized | | Bike Setup: | Stock except: Saddle: Koobi SI. Brake Levers: Avid SD Ti. Shifters: new xt shifters coming soon. | | Bottom Line: | The bike is a decent ride. I needed a bike with a low and long top tube to fit my short legged long torso body. This was the least expensive bike to meet that requirement. The Judy XC fork was a little stiff untill I put Slick Honey on it. The oil and springs were replaced to better suit my above average size (240lbs). The wheels (Bontrager Superstock) have really impressed me because of the amount of abuse they have taken and not needed to be trued. I don't hop logs very well yet and the back tire (half radial laced) has yet to fail me. The racing raptor tires are not that great for the wet conditions around here. (Being replaced) The frame is not butted, this is a positive and a negative for me, the lack of butting means I won't be denting the frame as easily, however it is weight that I can never get rid of. (I have plenty to lose myself) Overall I am quite please with my Kaitai, I just hope I don't have any type of warrenty issues that I have heard others complaining about.
I would also like to point out the exceptional work that Knapps Cyclery has done. I credit them for the strength of the wheels (they tensioned and stress releived them for me). They also worked very hard getting the bike to fit without compromise. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
tidal
a Weekend Warrior
from Minnesota
Date Reviewed: March 22, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | any available | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$650.00 | | Purchased At: | local sporting goods store | | Strengths: | *Genesis geometry*! Nice thick tube construction that's strong, yet really light. Judy XC's if you like em' the adjustable travel is nice (and disc brake tabs). Very upgradeable bike if need be. | | Weaknesses: | Seat sucks, it's trying to keep me from procreating, a ball of duck tape on the post would serve ya better. Brakes sorta blow too, upgrade em' if you got the cash. Handle bar wsa a tad bit too narrow for my wide shoulders, but if your smaller...? Some components could use an upgrade if yer picky. | | Similar Products Used: | Fisher Wahoo and Marlin, I liked the HooKooEKoo... | | Bike Setup: | XT derailleurs, Titec Hellbent- Big Al stem- and bar ends, Cane Creek headset, Jones tires, heavy duty springs, Salsa boosters/grips, Body Geometry seat blah blah blah | | Bottom Line: | Great bike for the cash, I basically bought mine for the frame and donated my components to my girlfiends cause (GF Wahoo). I went from a XL frame in my Marlin to a large frame in my KaiTai to beat on better, being a larger guy (6-3', 245 lbs) I went with the heavy duty springs in the Judys and swapped out my oil with 15 weight goo. Also to compensate for my broader shoulders I went with the Titec Hellbent DH bar for that couple extra inches. All in all a great bike and it's too bad that this was the last year this mule was built. GARY FISHER WILL ALWAYS BE THE KING! Go out and eat some Treks! 5 flamin' poppers! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Sprockets
a Weekend Warrior
from Seattle
Date Reviewed: March 16, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$730.00 | | Strengths: | Overall performance is great. I like the geometry, handling, climbing, descending. The stock drivetrain works fine,it ain't XTR, but it works well. | | Weaknesses: | stock pedals, brakes and levers!!, stock tires (semislick rear) | | Similar Products Used: | Trek, Specialized, K2 hardtails | | Bike Setup: | disc brakes, Time Pedals, XT/Rhynolight wheels, suspension seatpost | | Bottom Line: | This is a durable, good performing HT that you can have a long time. There are components to upgrade as they fail or piss you off, but the frame is quite worth it. Great single track bike, and overall a real nice performer. I have ridden through stuff that I never thought a hardtail could do and this thing just ripped through it. It has made me a much better rider, and taken me where I have never been. I trust it. This model is no longer offered, but there are several models with the same frame and similar equipment offered. Clip in! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andrew Price
a Weekend Warrior
from Noblesville
Date Reviewed: March 13, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$650.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Excellent climber. Genesis Geometry. Aluminum frame. Nice wheelset. Judy XC fork is a workhorse. | | Weaknesses: | Crappy crankset. Brakes are a little on the weakside. Front end a little heavy. | | Similar Products Used: | Trek, Specialized Rockhopper. | | Bike Setup: | Thomson stem and seatpost. Easton EA70 handlebar. Shimano XT hollowtech crankset (splined). Selle Italia Gel seat. Time Atac Thermoplastic pedals | | Bottom Line: | This is a great bike for the intermediate rider. If you upgrade a few components...see my bike setup, you will be extremely happy. The crankset and pedals should be the first thing to upgrade. Upgrade everything else as needed, or if you get a phat tax check.
I love the geometry of this bike, but you have to ride it to understand. However, I think Gary Fisher discontinued the Kaitai. If so, check out the Paragon. Go Gary Fisher! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Canon
a Weekend Warrior
from Medford, OR, US
Date Reviewed: February 22, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Applegate Lake | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$749.00 | | Purchased At: | Cycle and Sport | | Strengths: | Love the way it rides. Haven't had any huge problems. A perfect bike for people who love biking with out spending a ton of money. | | Weaknesses: | The seat can be harsh on a person. | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bottom Line: | I love this bike. I think that it is a great bike to be riding if you want to have fun and be crazy. It's not the best bike on the market, but a great bike for the price. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bobby
a Weekend Warrior
from NJ
Date Reviewed: February 3, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Laurel | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$650.00 | | Purchased At: | Jay's Cycle Center | | Strengths: | light weight, easy to handle, smooth rear shifting, good fork, nice rims, and good pedles for a no name brand | | Weaknesses: | the "Raptor Racing Tire" thats what it is not good for all that loose sand dirt and rock that the trails in NJ throw at you, also the seat is hard but hey no seat is perfect, and the breaks are no name brand but they'll do ok if your just starting out. | | Similar Products Used: | Gary Fisher, Big Sur | | Bike Setup: | stock | | Bottom Line: | Bottom line this is a good solid bike for any one on the acount that it's easy to up grade to any levle of riding skill it's light which comes in hany to any one that has to dismount and carry it for a while it gets good speed and has amazing handeling when it come right down to it. This is helpful when decenting. I recommend this bike to all riders of all skills and ages. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Captain Insaneo
a Racer
from Texas
Date Reviewed: February 2, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Ant Hills, Houston TX | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$750.00 | | Purchased At: | Sun and Ski | | Strengths: | Great geometry (go genesis), Bontrager Superstock Wheel set is GREAT! Weight is okay, mine weighs about 26lbs. | | Weaknesses: | The LX rear derailer is okay but needs to be upgraded, the front derailer is deore....but I wouldn't replace it 'til you break it. The drive train in all needs to be replaced! | | Similar Products Used: | I worked at a bike shop and road many different bikes.....I'll never get rid of my Kaitai | | Bike Setup: | Bontrager Superstock Wheel set, XT Crank set, XT Brakes, XT shifters/brake lever combo, XTR Rear Derailer, XT Bottom Bracket.....wanna race! | | Bottom Line: | This is a great bike for anyone.....upgrade a few components and your race ready! This bike is also very durable....I jump, do drops and in general ride like an idiot and she still smiles at me in the morning! Go Fisher! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
David
a Weekend Warrior
from Charlotte, NC
Date Reviewed: January 25, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$699.00 | | Purchased At: | South Park Cycles | | Strengths: | Fairly inexpensive, fairly light (28 lbs.) | | Weaknesses: | Rock Shox Judy XC is useless, trade it in the second you purchase this bike.
Also this bike comes with LX rear deurailer and a Deore front both of these should upgraded because of their weight.
The last major problem that I found with this bike is that it doesn't come with clipless pedals. In my opinion, clipless pedals complete any mountain bike. | | Similar Products Used: | If your looking for a perfect bike for about $900 new, I suggest purchasing the 2001 K2 Zed 5.0. It comes with clipless pedals and awesome suspension and weighs only 25.2lbs. | | Bottom Line: | The bottom line is that the 2000 Fisher Katai is a great recreational mountain bike, but I wouldn't recommend it for any serious mountain bikers who put a lot of stress on their bike. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave
a Cross Country Rider
from West Bend,WI,USA
Date Reviewed: January 17, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Ice Age | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$800.00 | | Purchased At: | Mounatin Outfitters | | Strengths: | Great handling and components for the money. LX derailluer can handle almost everything. | | Weaknesses: | Front derailluer is weak. The pedals are bad. Need upgrade to XT | | Bike Setup: | Factory | | Bottom Line: | Great feeling out on the trail considering I've only been riding for about a year. Is pretty good for racing though I'll upgrade to XT once I get my paycheck. Different pedals so my feet won't fall out if I hit some rock gardens. Otherwise its a great bike for the beginner and someone who wants to go semi-hardcore on your local trails. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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Brandon
a Weekend Warrior
from Ona, WV,USA
Date Reviewed: January 13, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | plunge | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$800.00 | | Strengths: | IT has good geometry for cross country and a great climber. The Judy is a great shock and has farely good components. Its ok on down hills. | | Weaknesses: | The brakes are really awful compared to hayes and the pedals need to be clipless. The geometry isnt very good for technical down hills compared to my stinky 5. The rims I bent up especialy in the back and broken 2 spokes in the back. | | Similar Products Used: | My other bike is a Kona Stinky 5 | | Bike Setup: | stoch except shimano clipless pedals and a xt derailer. nobbier tires | | Bottom Line: | If you want a good cross country bike and not for to much money. GET THIS! I love how it climbs and descends pretty good. It can take 4 foot wheelie drops but you will bend up the rims. If you are a agressive rider who likes doing drop offs DONT GET THIS BIKE! I just got a Kona Stinky 5 and it is GREAT! the downhilling is amazing compared to this bike! If you dont want to spend a lot of money get this and dont ride real hard! GET THIS! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nathan
a Cross Country Rider
from Houston
Date Reviewed: November 23, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Ant Hills | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$725.00 | | Purchased At: | Sun & Ski | | Strengths: | Great frame geometry (for me); perfectly adequate basic components; comfortable saddle | | Weaknesses: | Original seat post had to be replaced when the darn bolt froze for the saddle adjustment (my fault for overtightening)- Otherwise really no weaknesses. | | Bike Setup: | GF 2000 Kaitai; Time Atac pedals; Bontrager alum seatpost; Panaracer SS (rear) and SK (front) tires. | | Bottom Line: | This is a follow up review after six moths and some 2,500 miles of riding.
The drivetrain components and brakes, though basic grade, work fine for me. When they wear out I will upgrade. Performance wise, I have been very satisfied with the set up.
The bottom line for me is this:
This was my first MTB bike - when I was shopping I wanted a good basic MTB that was upgradeable. Since I did not know whether I'd like MTB or not I did not want to spend the extra $'s for more expensive components.
The frame is excellent!
I am very happy with my puchase- I ride an average distance of 21 to 25 miles per ride. This bike makes the grade.
If you are getting into MTB /XC riding but don't want to spend $1,500 for your first bike take a look at the Kaitai.
However, make sure the "Genesis" geometry frame fits you. If it doesn't. TREK makes the same bike with a standard fram top tube that may fit you better.
Hope you like riding as much as I do !
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Submitted by
Matt Thompson
a Weekend Warrior
from Gan. ON.
Date Reviewed: November 1, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Blue Mt. | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$725.00 | | Purchased At: | T.I. Cycle | | Strengths: | Genisi Geometry is awsome. Takes a bit to get use to, but once you get the hang of it you will see yourself going faster and riding much more technical. Front suspention is great lots of travle for hardecore Canadian shield riding. | | Weaknesses: | I am considering break up grades and possible rear derailer to xt. Riser bars would help to improve your posture and but more weight on the back seat for better climbing. | | Bike Setup: | Botenrager equiped judy xc front fork, lx derailer, all factory equiped | | Bottom Line: | great bike for a starter or first time with a front suspention. Great for slower more technicale trails. So far so good! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris Greene
a Weekend Warrior
from Mountain View, CA
Date Reviewed: October 15, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Wilder Ranch | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$629.00 | | Purchased At: | Pacific Bicycle | | Strengths: | Genesis Geometry, Front Suspension, Bontrager Wheel sets. | | Weaknesses: | Rear deraillur, brake levers. pedals | | Bike Setup: | Stock. | | Bottom Line: | This is really a great bike if it fits you right. The geometry and handling have me trying stunts I never would have tried before. The only downsides would be the rear deraillur and brake levers.I bent my front left brake lever my first day out when i had just a small jostle, and the rear deraillur needs adjusting after every bit of singletrack. Those will be my first upgrades. The price can't be beat, and considering how amazing the frame is, you could upgrade this bike to death and it would be worth every penny. I also intened on buying new tires. The stock WTB's are fine, but climb like sh*t in loose dirt/gravel (which is about the only kind of terrain I seem to get around here in the summer. I have no compalints about the saddle. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
MadMax
a Cross Country Rider
from Houston, Texas
Date Reviewed: September 22, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Genesis frame is great for me- climbs well.
Stock seat very comfy - I ride 2-3 hours and up to thirty five miles about 4 times a week; Judy front fork is good; | | Weaknesses: | I don't care for the Bontrager hubs that come on the Superstock Wheelset -the rear is noisy.
None really- Sure some of the components could be improved but hey, for the price it works greats stock. | | Bike Setup: | Stock except Time ATAC pedals and Panaracer SS (rear) and SK (front) | | Bottom Line: | This is an excellent entry level MB/XC bike that will not be put to shame by much more expensive hardware.
Will upgrade to higher end parts as they need replacing.
If you are just getting into the sport but don't want to spend your wad on a bike- the Kaitai is the ticket. Frame is great and very upgradeable. By much less of a bike and you are stuck with having to start over with a whole new bike.
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Submitted by
Brian Cox
a Weekend Warrior
from Tucson, AZ USA
Date Reviewed: September 21, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Never got the chance!!!!! | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$725.00 | | Purchased At: | Full Cycle | | Strengths: | Looks great, rides smooth, shock fork handles rough stuff and won't break your wrists | | Weaknesses: | Says frame is strong, I bent the damn thing in one day, hopping up a freaking curb, could be a manufacturer defect, but if it isn't, what does that tell me? | | Similar Products Used: | 1995 Diamond Back Ascent EX | | Bike Setup: | Total Stock | | Bottom Line: | I just bought this bike yesterday, and today, I had to bring the thing back to the place I bought it at, because hopping up a curb, I bent the damn rear wheel A-Frame.
I'm not exactly sure what I should think about all this.
I've been reading lots of reviews about how everybody thinks the bike is so cool and its frame is practically indestructible, but how the heck is it so great if I broke it the first day I rode it?! I wasn't even going fast (less than 10 mPh) so how can you defend this fault? I'm praying that the bike is under warrantee, but the only thing the guy at the store could tell me is: "We have to get it looked at by a Fisher Rep. to make sure it was a manufacturing defect and you didn't just jump off a house... If the damage isn't your fault, we'll send it out for a new frame and fix it up under warrantee, otherwise you pay for it outta your pocket." Hell NO! If this thing's broken and they try to get me to pay for it, I'd rather sell it as scarp metal and boycott Fisher forever more.
That thing cost me 725 big ones, if it breaks on a freaking curb, I shudder to think what would happen on a Mountain! I have to tell you, I had a Diamond Back Ascent EX for 5 years, and the only thing I had to replace on it was the brake handles, a chain, a new set of tires and tubes, and one crankshaft... in five years!!! I mean, if Fisher's bikes break this easy, we got a serious problem in bike manufacturing today.
Let me just say that Gary Fisher Bicycles has one heck of a black clound hanging over their heads right now. If I can't get it fixed under warrantee, that's the first and the LAST Fisher bike i will ever buy in my life.
It's one hall of an expensive mistake... | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Curly Bob
a Cross Country Rider
from Boulder Colorado
Date Reviewed: September 19, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$699.00 | | Purchased At: | Docs ski & sports | | Strengths: | excellent Frame, $$$$, Seat if fine even after 400 miles, If on a budget perfect start-you can build to this bike | | Weaknesses: | Not so groovy componentry, Change the BB and Crankset in a heartbeat, also break leavers are not fit for a kids bike, tyres are poor, pedles, | | Similar Products Used: | Marin Eldrage Grade, Specialized Rock Hopper, Klein Attitude - Nice but $, Shwinn Moab | | Bike Setup: | Working on XTR throughout, clipless pedles & Race worthy Forks, Bar ends! | | Bottom Line: | For the $ a great bike, but don't leave the store without changeing the brake leavers, The components let the bike down but a great ride netherless, changing the spec as you go along will eventually leave you with a great bike and you need never change the Genesis frame for as long as you live. You can compete on this bike at almost any level on factory spec without being blown away from the competition of $1000+ bikes | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave
a Weekend Warrior
from Tampa, Florida, U.S.A
Date Reviewed: September 14, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Hard Rock | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$650.00 | | Purchased At: | Neptune Cyclery | | Strengths: | looks, Fisher name, judy suspension, genesis geometery, better than average components | | Weaknesses: | seat | | Similar Products Used: | old Haro, Fisher hookooekoo 95 | | Bike Setup: | specialized bar ends and computer. new seat soon! | | Bottom Line: | Sweet bike, try finding another bike with 6061 aluminum for the price. Not light but not heavy but who cares when you throw on an extra 230 lbs. Perfect setup for taller riders, riders under 5'10" I strongly recommend to demo first. No regrets what so ever. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
RocketJeff
a Weekend Warrior
from Houston, TX
Date Reviewed: September 6, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Terry Hershey Park/Ant Hills | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$800.00 | | Purchased At: | Sun and Ski Sports | | Strengths: | Solid Bike for a rookie(that's me). I've rode the bike on the road, in the sand, on tough trails, and on easy trails. I've spent a lot of time on the ground with this bike and can definately say it takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'. I have beat the hell out of this bike in three months and would recommend it to anyone. | | Weaknesses: | In the short time I have had it I bent the middle front gear in the sand at the beach. At first I was not sure how it happened, but recently I had the bike in for routine maintenance and had sun and ski sports look at the derailer. I did point this out to then the day I bought it, but they said everything was fine. Turns out the derailer was bent and has been bent for quite some time. It was not Gary Fisher's fault nor was this a failure of the part itself. It was Sun and Ski Sport's fault for selling me a bike in a hurry and not checking everything out like they should have. | | Bike Setup: | Stock except the Coda Weave grips | | Bottom Line: | The bottom line is that I love the bike, but felt like I got the shaft from the place I bought it. I can say the any future work done by then will be done right or I will contact Gary Fisher's home office and let them know how they are working on their bikes. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mark Hoppus
a Weekend Warrior
from NSW, Australia
Date Reviewed: September 1, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Eangadine National Park | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$800.00 | | Purchased At: | Wooly's Wheel | | Strengths: | There are so many strenght in this bike, and the price will put any entry level rider happy, but for me, i gatta say the heat treated 7005 alloy frame, man, can this frame take a lot of pounding or what? i do a lot of bunny hoping and jumping around and the wheels and the frame is holding up quite well, apart from that, i also got to mention the handling, its gatto do a lot with the riser bar i think, tough and precise in any condition or speed!!and not to mention the colour is an eye candy too | | Weaknesses: | the only weakness is the component mix, Shimona Acera is in the bottom of Shimona food chain, but for just cruising around its great, on the rough tracks? dont even go there | | Similar Products Used: | ----- | | Bike Setup: | i bought a 40 cm geometry comp rigid version and this size suited me perfectly, the power from rider to bike is transferred perfectly, with no wasted movement or edgy feel... | | Bottom Line: | Go out of your seat and buy this bike, its an awesome buy and price for the entry level rider...who just wanna do a lot of urban assoult or the odd trick | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Steve
a
from Lexington
Date Reviewed: September 1, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Let ya know later | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$700.00 | | Purchased At: | Scheller's | | Strengths: | Judy XC, frame design(genesis geometry), good price | | Weaknesses: | saddle...man does my ass hurt. My boys also took a little nap.....will get a new saddle next week. | | Similar Products Used: | trek 6500 | | Bike Setup: | stock setup and soon to be new saddle | | Bottom Line: | I've only had this bike for one day, but let me tell you so far I have no major complaints about this bike except for the SADDLE!!! This is my first mountain bike so maybe I don't know too much about them, but this bike seemed to fit me perfectly (that is except for the saddle). I tried the trek 6500 but it seemed like I was stretched out too much when gripping the handle bars. The genesis geometry on the kaitai seems to fit me pretty darn good (of course the seat is not too good on the equipment). I will give an update in a few weeks to let you know how it is going. Overall this seems to be a great bike to start at if you do not wish to do alot of upgrades. If you buy a cheaper bike you'll be out more on upgrades. Don't make a mistake check out an intermediate bike like the kaitai. You won't be disappointed. By the way did I mention the SADDLE really blows. Have your dealer swap out seats when you buy the bike. Believe me you won't be disappointed. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
DMan
a Weekend Warrior
from San Mateo, CA
Date Reviewed: September 1, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Skeggs | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$700.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | frame design; componentry for the price; judy xc | | Weaknesses: | front shifting; pedals; weight of components | | Similar Products Used: | GT Backwoods; Trek 6500; Specialized Rockhopper | | Bike Setup: | xtr v-brakes, shifters, levers, & rear derailleur; Time ATAC Carbon. xtr front derailleur soon. | | Bottom Line: | Good value for the money. My priority really was to get a hardtail with a good frame to build on (since this is my first bike). I like the frame's geometry for ascending/descending. I feel like my position is set-up efficiently for spinning.
The Judy XC is great, albeit, on the heavy side. It takes a lot of punishment. I've only biked a couple of months and sometimes my line on some single tracks were suspect--going over rocks was not a problem.
I wasn't really going to change my shifter/lever/brakes to xtrs but my friend gave me a great deal. He switched to hydraulic discs and gave me his xtrs for $150 after 2 mos. of use--what-a-deal! I got the rear derailleur (xtr reverse-action) for $65 at Supergo. Boy, does it really make a difference in performance. Shifting is a cinch. After a steep climb, I can instantly shift two or three gears up which prevents me from spinning wildly with no torque.
The first upgrade that you really should consider are the pedals. I was hesitant at first. But when I changed them to clipless, spinning is more efficient. Of course, I fell a few times (and some more), but it's worth it. Now, I really look forward to riding my Kaitai and hitting those technical single tracks and steep climbs. My bike feels a lot lighter and faster.
Bottom Line: a good bike to build on! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Joe
a Weekend Warrior
from Bellevue, WA, USA
Date Reviewed: August 28, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | any singletrack | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$650.00 | | Strengths: | Long Top Tube, Shock | | Weaknesses: | Handlebar (too straight), Back wheel (poor traction on dry trails) | | Similar Products Used: | Trek 6500 (felt too scrunched up), Kona Mula-Mula (felt good) | | Bike Setup: | Stock, with riser handlebars that angle toward me
| | Bottom Line: | I really like the bike...but felt like I didn't have many other options because of my long torso. The geometry gives me space to stretch out without being on top of the handlebars. I usually can't climb steep dry trails due to the lack of tread on the back tire. I plan to replace it soon. I like the seat...though hard it provides support and my 39 year old body still feels fine even after 2 hours of hard riding. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Joe (Radar)
a Racer
from Barberton, OH
Date Reviewed: August 17, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Anything with dirt | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$800.00 | | Purchased At: | Eddy's Bike Shop | | Strengths: | All around, the best bike for the price. Plenty of sizes, nice components, etc. Great for racing at a low price. | | Weaknesses: | The brakes needed constant adjustment, the front shifitng has not been too consistent (chain jams and occasionally I have chainsuck...even with clean chain. must be the chainrings).
I'm not sure where the extra weight comes from but the bike is a pound or so heavier than other bikes in this price range. | | Similar Products Used: | Trek 6500 | | Bike Setup: | A few upgrades:
Magura HS11 brakes (huge improvement)
Nashbar clipless pedals
Tires (I now have a few pairs that I use depending on conditions)
I also ordered a new saddle to save some weight and a new cassette because I have about 1600 miles on the current one. | | Bottom Line: | When I wrote my first review of this bike in March, I had 200-300 miles on the bike. Now I have about 1600-1800 miles on it (in 6 months) and I figured it was time for a follow-up. Here's a quick update on the parts:
Frame/fork: Still great. The frame is holding up nicely and like I said before, it has nice mud clearance. I actually put a Geax 2.25 inch tire on the rear and it still had a little clearance. Same with the fork, maybe about a quarter inch on both sides. That means you can put on some beefy tires and switch the fork to 100mm travel and go freeriding. The fork still works fairly smooth after all these miles, I lube it with Judy butter every 8-12 hours of riding. It tracks pretty well but I only weigh 120 pounds and the springs still seem pretty soft compared to other forks.
Drivetrain: It still shifts fairly well. I am on my third chain now (HG 72) and I'm getting a new cassette soon. The rear derailleur needs some adjustment after a muddy ride, but when things are drier it's fine. The front shifts well 80% of the time, but the rings simply aren't made well enough to prevent the chain from jamming and chainsuck from happening even when the front derailleur is adjusted right. The rear shifter had a problem with the downshift lever not retracting but the bike shop fixed it for free. Overall, the drivetrain is solid for the price range. With a XT rear derailleur and a new crank (maybe a Shimano LX) it would be very, very good. I'm not going to complain about the clips-and-straps pedals the bike came with because most of the bikes in this range don't come with clipless, and I carried over my Nashbar ones from my old bike anyway. No big deal.
Wheels/tires: The front racing raptor is slowly becoming my favorite front tire for almost all conditions. It wears very slow, has decent cornering grip, and tracks through roots and rocks well. The rear tire is also super fast on pavement and hardpack, and with a little technique you can ride technical stuff. Tires are more of a preference thing, so trade in the rear tire for something better for your area. The wheels have stayed super true and are turning very well. The front bearings came loose after about 1500 miles and the bike shop fixed it for free.
Brakes/other components: The brakes are absolute crap. They work decent on the trail if you keep them adjusted and the cables clean, but after a few miles and some muddy conditions, they won't be working well anymore (IMO, no one should use cable brakes, even mechanical discs). I replaced with Magura rim brakes and they have needed far less adjustment and they are always very smooth. The handlebar has been fine just like the stem (which I flipped, I like my handlebars low). The saddle and seatpost are both outrageously heavy, so they are a great place to save weight. My new saddle is coming in th mail now which will probably save 150 grams. The headset and bottom bracket are both still smooth.
Overall, this is a great bike. The frame is very race worthy, and most of the components hold up well with some adjusting. The fork is heavy but very smooth, and with a few upgrades you can definetly race on it. Basically, you can upgrade the frame forever because it has a disc mount and it is light. A great foundation to build a dream bike on. I will definetly buy another Gary Fisher, probably the Sugar 2 in a year or so. It comes in plenty of sizes so it's not too hard to get a great fit. Go buy one!
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Submitted by
Likebutta
a Cross Country Rider
from Chico, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: August 8, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Yo mama's | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Time for my follow up review, I posted a few months ago...
Along with what I posted before, the frame on this bike is STRONG. It doesn't break and I pound the crap out of it. Read the reviews of Bidwell Park Upper Canyon under the Calif. other areas section of this sites trail reviews. These are some tough, rocky bike slamming trails, and my Kaitai eats em up and begs for more. | | Weaknesses: | Rear tire- I'm torn about this, on the one hand this tire is great at gripping rocks and cornering. But forget about loose gravel inclines. Also, the little tread nobbies are starting to break off and wear down already.
Pedals- mine are smashed and contorted, but I really don't care. As long as they are straight and I can get my feet in them I'm happy. I'll upgrade to clipless someday, but I'm happy as is right now.
Other minor stuff that my LBS handles for free: Brakes need frequent tightening, front and rer der need regular tuning after hard riding. Saddle is still hard, but again, what saddle isn't. | | Similar Products Used: | None since I got the Kaitai...
Although I have seen a Specialized FSR Stump Jumper with a broken chainstay... (should have got a fisher...)
| | Bike Setup: | Same. Bar ends and riser bars. | | Bottom Line: | I couldn't be much happier, this bike is just so tough and well suited for larger riders. Bombs away... | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
jeff
a Cross Country Rider
from NY
Date Reviewed: August 8, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | skytop loop | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Similar Products Used: | Jamis Durango | | Bike Setup: | stock | | Bottom Line: | I used a new 2000 kaitai for two days, I wasn't impressed. I am the proud owner of a Specialized FSR enduro so I am obviously a fan of full sus. bikes. After riding this bike I was even more pleased with my dual sus. bike. For a hardtail though, the Kaitai isn't bad. I ride this bike for two full days of aggressive technical riding. The Bontrager wheels are excellent. Even a rider of less than a year such as myself could feel the difference between these and the crummy stock wheels on my FSR. The handlebar is awesome, it's wide, flat and feels very solid. The steering is great. Genesis geometry is not all it's hyped up to be. The top tube is long, much too long. It puts you, or at least me anyway, in a bent over position that for me was uncomfortable as hell but that could have also been true because I am used to my full sus. bike. I think it was a combonation of both the long top tube and the lack of a rear shock. My back was sore after riding this bike. Also, the bike is fragile. I fell climbing over a series of rocks, a place I have fallen many times on my FSR and never scratched it, anyway, I bent the big chain ring so badly it wouldn't shift gears. The height of the bottom bracket is too low, It kept getting hung up on fallen trees that I usually climb over on my FSR. The bike does climb pretty well up steep hills and descends like,well...a hartail, nothing compared to my bike. It shifts smoothly, better than my bike which has the same drivetrain.
Don't believe all the hype! A hardtail bike is umcomfortable. On a full suspension bike you can ride harder and longer. That is what it is all about, riding. To climb on my FSR, I have to really get over my handlebars. On the Kaitai, it was easier but descending was not as fun or as fast on my full sus bike. Fun is also what it's all about. I can't believe racers are still riding hardtails. I recommend this bike to someone who commutes to work or school on their bike and does some moderate trail riding a couple of times per week. If the trail isn't too bumpy or you don't mind the back pain or you want to be a little faster on the climbs then this is your bike. Keep in mind that after buying clipless pedals and a sus seat post (to take the edge off of the bumps)you will have spent close to a thousand dollars. Good bike for moderate trail riding. Also, Fisher is a great company in my opinion. Where some companies put garbage components on a bike they put nice Bontrager parts on it. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Caleb
a Cross Country Rider
from Charlottesville, VA
Date Reviewed: August 7, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Walnut Creek Park | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Great frame, quality components, nice, plush suspension fork | | Weaknesses: | pedals, tacky graphics | | Similar Products Used: | Cannondale F500 | | Bike Setup: | stock (Deore, Deore LX) and Ritchey clipless pedals (replacing stock toe clips and straps) | | Bottom Line: | Wonderful, all-around bicycle. Not extremely fast or light, but a smooth-riding, confidence-inspiring genisis-geometry frame.
The suspension fork is really nice, although I agree with someone else whose had problems with squeaking noises.
Also, Gary Fisher, the man who invented the sport of mountain biking, is incredible -- had the chance to meet him at a Fisher Trails 2000 event, and was glad I was riding one of his bicycles...
Finally, the real reason I bought this bike over the Cannondale F500 was my LBS: Blue Wheel Bikes in Charlottesville, VA. Scott Paisley, who is the co-owner of the store, used to build frames for Gary Fisher, and is an incredible ambassador for the sport. His shop also has impeccable customer service, where they really put the time in to making sure you get the bike that is best suited for you - swapping out stems, whatever it takes. While most bike shops limit your test rides to 3 minutes in the parking lot, Scott encourages you to take it for 20 minutes or more. And whether your looking into a top-of-the-line team replica, or a campus commuter, the folks at Blue Wheel bikes are equally excited to spend time with you.
No matter what you buy, make sure you buy it from a quality shop where you know you will get a good fit, with good service down the road. With all bikes sharing the same components, manufacturer matters a lot less than the retailer. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jon
a Cross Country Rider
from Charlottesville, VA
Date Reviewed: August 4, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Panorama Farms or Big Levels | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | frame, geometry, value for $$ | | Weaknesses: | crankset, front deraileur, stock tires | | Similar Products Used: | trek 6500, rockhopper, some sort of schwinn . . . | | Bike Setup: | stock | | Bottom Line: |
This is a great bike for under $800. Pedals and tires are the first upgrades I'll make (LBS is replacing crank for free--lots of chainsuck going on shifting between middle and smallest ring), but that's about it. Climbs really well, descends well, soaks up bumps, logs, roots, etc. . . The shocks seem good so far--this is my first suspension bike. They do make a little squeak sometimes on the rebound, but that's tolerable.
After getting the bike dialed in, it feels really solid on all types of terrain. Stock tires are not the best in mud, but great on hardpacked trails.
All in all, a great mid-level bike for all you long-torsoed folks out there, but definitely try a variety of bikes before you buy. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nate
a Cross Country Rider
from Houston
Date Reviewed: July 29, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Ant Hills | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Genesis Geometry Frame; Rockshox Judy XC ( I weigh 178 and have plenty of suspension); Wheels; Comfy Seat;etc., etc. | | Weaknesses: | Front Derailleur a little weak but works fine. | | Similar Products Used: | Treck 6500; Specialized Rockhopper Comp | | Bike Setup: | Bone Stock | | Bottom Line: | Haven't riden a bike for over 22 years until I got the KAITAI last Sunday. I have ridden the bike now five straight days with the average ride being 2 hours per ride ( about 20 miles a day).
This bike ROCKS ! My aged 42 year old body is having one heck of a good time - this thing really climbs like a Billy Goat ( frame was the selling point- doesn't dissapoint on the trail). Downhills on the rough and rocky is smooth- bike handles like a sports car.
Brakes seem OK to me so far.
Gears shift smooth ( I do shift often).
The rear tire ( WTB Racing Raptor46/50) is a hybrid and great for both the trail and kicks on the pavement.
Cannot believe so many people complaining about how hard the seat is. Sure my butt was sore the second day but by the third day me and that seat have developed quite a relationship. The seat is just fine - guy/gals don't sit while going over the "whoop di doos" it'll save your butt some pain.
My advice to other newbies like myself to the sport - do not cheat yourself by buying too cheap a first bike. The Kaitai is a good entry level to Intermediate level bike that has a great frame. Very upgradeable- humm, maybe new brakes, Shimano XT........
Anyhow- having a lot of fun and plan on really giving this Bike a work-out over the next several months. I'll post again as the newness wears off. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Carl Hirth
a Cross Country Rider
from Schnecksville, PA,USA
Date Reviewed: July 28, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Blue Marsh | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Frame and component group. Great bang for the buck | | Weaknesses: | Uncomfortable seat | | Similar Products Used: | BCA, Gary Fisher Montaire, Giant ATX 770, Voodoo Zobop | | Bike Setup: | Stock except for Bar ends and computer | | Bottom Line: | After a year of riding a full suspension bike (97 Voodoo Zobop)I was sick of the exta weight, inefficient rear suspension, parts breaking and couldn't wait to sell it and get a good hardtail bike. This bike fits me like a glove, I have a long torso and the long top tube, short chain stays and Genesis geometry make this the best fitting bike I have owned yet. A quick spin around the LBS parking lot sold me on this bike. I got the bike for $680 equipped the Deore and LX stuff. I have been abusing this bike for 3 months on some of the nastiest stuff eastern PA has to offer and this bike has not missed a beat. It climbs like mountain goat and is stable on slow technical descents or all out downhill charges. It goes where you aim it and holds a line better than any other bike I have tried. I swear I can descend faster on this bike than I did on my Voodoo Full Suspension bike.The bike looks great with the black wheels and yellow/red graphics. Buy this bike!!! You won't regret it. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
stefan
a Cross Country Rider
from breda, The Netherlands
Date Reviewed: July 25, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Genesis Geometry, Judy XC '00 Fork, Tires, rear derailleur | | Weaknesses: | Pedals and brakesystem are only soso | | Similar Products Used: | Raleighs, muddy fox team monarch | | Bike Setup: | Custom '00 model , added bar-ends | | Bottom Line: |
This bike is everything you could want from a bike!
I read through reviews of bikes here on mtbreview and decided that a Gary Fisher would be my next bike. At about 6 1 1/2 with long arms, not all bikes feel good, especially on long rides. When I testdrove it I knew this was the one.
I have rode it on single track, paved roads dwnhill/uphill, dried up riverbeds etc. The kaitai takes ém all.
The genesis frame really feels good, it makes for a better ride, especially uphill. The increased traction on the rear wheel keeps the bike from fishtailing on slippery surfaces.
These things are the ones that really matter.
On asfaltuphills I even took over roadbike racers, (hehe, did that feel good.)
I expected the brakes to suck from the looks of it, but they do fine untill now. My initial thought was that the bontrager stem was a tad short , especially when adding bar-ends, perhaps bar ends that don't invert are a better option than replacing the stem.
The front derailleur is a little noisy and the chain rubs, needs more frequent adjusting.
I have not ridden the bike in extreme sludge, but on hardpack and wet trails the tires are great
I don't like the pedals with straps but that is very individual i guess.
The fork is very nice and a bit plush indeed
it makes all rides,on all terrains , better and you can push the bike hard without fear of eating dust and stones or worse
bottomline is the frame is incredible, you can always upgrade the parts you don't like
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Submitted by
Brice
a Weekend Warrior
from Memphis, TN
Date Reviewed: July 7, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Price, Genesis Geometry, components. This bike is strong on the inside. | | Weaknesses: | brakes, chain, lack of clipless stompers | | Similar Products Used: | GT Avalanche | | Bike Setup: | stock but added Avid AD-1.OL levers and brakes, Bontrager race light bar ends, better chain | | Bottom Line: | Just moved from Boulder, CO, to the Redneck Riviera here in Memphis. I sold my old GT and wanted a new bike that could handle all types of terrain. I drove a Fisher while in CO and knew that the Genesis setup was for real. This bike will handle local trails and those in eastern TN and NC (and those in CO when I return to Mother).
I'm 160 lbs. 5'9", brown hair, enjoy long walks along the River...so I went with a Medium frame. Cockpit size should be your primary concern when purchasing a bike. This one fits like a velvet glove.
I don't trust Shimano chains. Too many times I flew over the handlebars. Had to make the change.
Pedals blow but what can you expect for this price. I looked at the Big Sur but don't like the Bontrager clipless. I've had friends who couldn't bail out and would sometimes have to take off their shoe to step off the bike. So the Big Sur wasn't attractive because there aren't that many differences after you change out the brakes on the KaiTai.
Brakes...as I said...I upgraded to Avids. Be aware that Avids are so awesome they can be a hazard to beginners. They stop on a pinky-toe finger nail and can launch you into the next county. But I'm risky like that and went with the upgrade.
At the price I stole this bike ($819.00 after upgrades), you can't beat it. I bought it from a local bike shop, so I've got the service, warranty, etc. that comes with owning a new bike. The frame will last forever and the Fisher feel sold me long ago. Judy XC shock is the goods, shifts as smooth as your mama (fast and smooth), and climbs these vicious Memphis hills like...well...like I'm climbing Memphis hills. Point being that I see no problem in this bike swimming upstream and would have been a kick in the shorts if I had it in Boulder. It can handle the climbs. But being an ex-BMXer, it does feel like I'm jumping out of the starting gate when the nose wheelies on me. I'll tame this horse over the long haul. And because I might run out of trails in the near future, the tires are sweet and may turn me into a "Roadie." The tread worked in the sand and hardpack, and were smooth on the pavement (as if that really matters). Sweet purchase and I give this dream 5 flamin bass boats in all areas. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tim
a Weekend Warrior
from Redwood City, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: July 7, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Frame
Wheelset
Overall value | | Weaknesses: | Brakes
Crankset/front shifting
Stock pedals
Heavy-ish | | Similar Products Used: | Raleigh M80 | | Bike Setup: | Stock, w/ clipless pedals, LX brake levers and teflon cables, barends, Spec. body geometry saddle | | Bottom Line: | I shopped mtn. bikes extensively; I demoed the Spec. Rockhopper A1FS, Trek 6500 & 7000, and C'dale F400. I purchased the Kaitai primarily because the frame and fit "spoke to me." Strongly considered the C'Dale.
At 6'2"/200 I opted for the XL frame, but probably could have gone L too. I liked the stretched-out feel of the XL, tho. I would definitely describe this bike as 'confidence inspiring'--my previous ride was more of a recreational fit and found me too far over the front wheel (very nimble, but prone to more-than-occasional endos). Pay attention to the cockpit size when buying a bike...most other things can be adjusted, but you can't do much about this!
My chief complaints about the bike are:
* balky about shifting to small chainring
* stock levers/brakes seem flexy, but will stop you. A $25 lever upgrade is probably money well-spent.
* stock pedals/straps...the first thing to go.
* saddle - ok, but not a great fit for me, personally
* weight - fair in this price range, but still not bantam weight.
Things I like are:
* Judy shock - pretty coosh. Will set to 100mm on first rebuild. A bit heavy, but seems solid and low maint.
* frame - it fit me and my riding style. Your mileage may vary. Front floats a bit on steeps, so climbing technique is important.
* rear shifting - positive, smooth
* wheelset - appears sufficiently light, smooth rolling, etc. Racing Raptor tires work well on hard pack and better than expected in loose, but hey--there are no all-conditions tires.
* price - (paid $700)
* decals - you can never have enough decals, right? ;-) Well, they're everywhere on the Fisher
Overall, I think this is a solid bike for an advanced enthusiast who has to pay their own rent and doesn't mind making a couple of choice upgrades. Sure, there are lighter, better-spec'd bikes, but you gotta compare apples to apples. In this price range I think it's a best buy, and there's plenty of good here to build on. And now, the envelope please... | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bruce
a Weekend Warrior
from San Diego
Date Reviewed: July 3, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Mission Trails | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Genisis Geometry, stability, quickness | | Weaknesses: | Brakes | | Similar Products Used: | GF Marlin, Trek 65000 | | Bike Setup: | Stock except for Specialized clipless pedals | | Bottom Line: | First bike was a Marlin, too heavy for bike, kept bending rims and bottoming shock, got a good beating after every ride. Traded for Trek 6500, good bike, but not to comfortable as I found myself scooting back in the saddle to strecth out torso, not a real good descender either, very agile bike. Bought Kai Tai off a friend. WOW. big difference, first thing i noticed was this thing was much quicker than the Trek. It seems to climb better and definitely tumbles down the hills with more speed and confidence. the bike seems to want to go faster. Brakes gotta go as soon as they wear out....bike is not as manuverable as the Trek, but I'm still getting used to it so maybe that'll change. will stick with GF in the future.
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Submitted by
undertaker
a Cross Country Rider
from Cape Town, South Africa
Date Reviewed: June 29, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | right now, anything | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | genesis geometry, 6061 t6 alu frame, deore with some lx | | Weaknesses: | wtb racingCraptor tires, toestrap pedals(deathtrap) | | Similar Products Used: | first bike | | Bike Setup: | standard except for barends and clipless pedals | | Bottom Line: | awesome first bike. the bike has handled everything i've thrown at it - unfortunately those crap tires threw it all right back at me! the price/performance ratio is good. value for money! am replacing the tires with Pythons. the RS judy is god - no arthritis for me. would like to cut down on the overall weight of the bike +/- 12Kg. GREAT FOR ALL ROUND XC. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Lorenski Schooldog
a Downhiller
from FTW TX USA
Date Reviewed: June 24, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Barton Springs, Austin | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Lotsa strengths | | Weaknesses: | Some weaknesses | | Similar Products Used: | GF Marlin, GF Mamba
| | Bike Setup: | Stockish | | Bottom Line: | Hmm, the Mamba was more comfortable, so was the Marlin, but
this one can ride faster, stronger, easier and is lighter.
Well balanced for me, I'd like to see a UNIX color version, using the same paint scheme but use flourescent green instead of the red & yellow :). Pedals don't suck at all, but I will get new ones. Seat is cheap and a real bone, so I'll get a new one-which I did already-the Fizik Pave'-and I took it back. Looks like a life time endeavor for finding a saddle that is good for me. I paid 640 Camel miles for it so it wasn't toooo bad for an account penalty. I guess I have to like it. So I'll give it a ten and tell you how it went in 6 months :)
PS The tires are pretty nifty. I'll be getting some trail attack tires to complement these road racers. Glad I have 'em in my arsenal now, I prolly wouldn't have purchased the Racing Raptors outright, so this was a treat.Plus, it can still climb a hill sideways real good. This bike can attack a hill and usually come out on top. Can't wait to put some knobbys' on it. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Likebutta
a Cross Country Rider
from Chico, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: May 5, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | All over Bidwell Park | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Judy Shocks, good components for the money. Of course the Genesis frame, but don't be sold by the hype. Try the bike and if it fits, get it. Otherwise don't. I think these bike are great for lager riders because the longer top tube allows you to take a good forward lean. Also the tires, your first glance at the rear tire may have you asking the dealer who wore all the tread off. Don't pre-judge. These tires grip like muthas on dirt and rocks. They are fast as hell on pavement too. I haven't tried them on mud yet, so maybe I'll change them in fall. | | Weaknesses: | Cranks and pedals. I'll be going clipless soon. No matter how hard you strap your feet in, they come out on bumpy rocky uphills and downhills. The seat is hard, but what seat isn't. | | Similar Products Used: | Demoed the Kona Lava Dome, Trek's, Schwinn Moab's, Marin's, and GT's. The cromoly Kona was tempting, but the Dealer here in Chico sucks, and the thing was as heavy as a tank. Plus, it was worth the extra 150.00 to get the better components and Fisher quality that comes with the Kaitai. | | Bike Setup: | Stock, added Bar ends. Tighten up those Judy's right away if your 200+ like me, they are really plush. | | Bottom Line: | Great bang for the buck. My first "real" mountain Bike. If your short on the money to buy the highest quality right off, go with the Kaitai. You'll get a fantastic frame that you can upgrade when you have the dough. Don't be fooled into buying a sled just because it has Bomber forks and all the bells and wistles, get a great frame 1st. It's hard to beat the Genesis Fisher's for quality, and impossible at the Kaitai's price. Light, nimble and strong, this bike is tops for the money. 5 flaming bike seats for this one. I'll re-rate after a few months, after the honeymoon is over. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nic
a Cross Country Rider
from Janesville, WI
Date Reviewed: April 25, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Undulating singletrack | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | -Geometry, climbs great and descends with confidence.
| | Weaknesses: | -Brakes, need frequent adjustment. | | Similar Products Used: | Trek 6500 | | Bottom Line: | The Genesis Geometry is unbelievable. I am 6'1 with a tall upper body and every other bike I rode left me feeling scrunched up on top. The minute I stepped on this bike it fit me perfectly. It climbs with ease and screams down the other side. I find myself being able to navigate more difficult trails with this bike due to its stability.I would reccomend this bike to anyone. I have taken it out too many times to count and haven't had any problems except minor adjustments on the brakes. Overall great bike. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bill Raynor
a Weekend Warrior
from Charlottetown, PEI, Canada
Date Reviewed: April 14, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Light, great colours, climbs like an elevator | | Weaknesses: | Pedals(But I upgraded to Clipless) | | Similar Products Used: | Don't ask.. | | Bike Setup: | Added some bar ends and some clipless pedals | | Bottom Line: | I love this bike. It's the first suspension bike I've ever bought but it's pretty sweet. I tried a specialized bike of near the same price but didn't the feel and I tried a much pricier full suspension of the same but I didn't feel comfortable on that either. Bottom line here is the Genesis frame design is what I like. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Joe
a Racer
from NE Ohio
Date Reviewed: March 28, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Anything with dirt | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | + Overall, solid components.
+ Not much generic stuff compared to other bikes in this range, just the post, stem, and brakes.
+ Stretched position (fits almost any rider)
+ Great wheels and tires
+ Disc mounts
| | Weaknesses: | - Brakes need to be adjusted often
- No clipless pedals
| | Similar Products Used: | Trek 6500, other Treks, etc | | Bike Setup: | Mostly the way it came, with Nashbar clipless pedals and a Enduro 2 computer. | | Bottom Line: | Frame/fork:The frame is great, it isn't as harsh as some of the very low-end aluminum frames. The disc mounts are nice and the welds look good. The mud clearance is great for the fork and frame. The fork seems a little soft, and I'm just 110 pounds. It's plush, though. The fork also swooshes more than the big "N".
Drivetrain:I've had this bike on over 20 rides in a little over a month, and the drivetrain has been great. NO problems in mud. A tiny bit unsmooth, but it still shifted well and the shifters aren't called rapidfire for nothing! I did have some problems with the chain jamming in-between the rings, but the bike shop took care of this and it has been fine since. The cranks look very cool.
Brakes: Probably the biggest weakness of the bike. Everything else is good except for the brakes. The levers have a decent amount of slop in them, and the brake arms (especially the rear) have inconsistant adjustment. It only takes about 30 seconds to fix, so it's not that big of a deal. The brakes will probably be my first real upgrade, though.
Wheels/tires: The tires are awesome. They are definetly semi-slicks and I thought they wouldn't perform well except on the road and hardpack. WRONG! They got just as good traction in mud and loose stuff as the full-on knobbies on my old bike (Kenda's). Even though the tires (mostly on the rear) tend to pick up mud, there is always rubber showing and they are great. They are REALLY fast on hard surfaces, of course. The wheels are great too. On my old bike, even with some decent rims, I had to true my wheels fairly often. The wheels have stayed true and seem to be high quality. The front wheel however seems a little flexy and the hoops probably wouldn't be the best for a heavier rider. They are relatively light, though.
Other components:
The seatpost slides up and down in the seat tube smoothly, the stem and handlebars have been great, the headset is smooth and the seat is confortable, just a bit short (I have the original WTB SST on my old bike).
Handling: This bike, due to the long top tube and plush fork is great on downhills. At high speeds it is stable and it can navigate through slow-speed technical situations well. I had the stem flipped so it has negative rise, but the front end occasionally floats on steep climbs. Overall, the handling is fairly neutral.
Overall, this bike is great. I am about 5 foot 6 (with a long 32+ inseam) and the medium is a great fit. I considered the Cannondale F400, but decided to go with the Fisher because of the better wheels and lack of Coda components.
If this had clipless pedals and some name brand (Avid would've been nice) brakes, I would give it 5 stars. That would probably be too good for the price, though. 4 flames overall rating for this great bike.
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Submitted by
Wes Yanaga
a Weekend Warrior
from Redwood City, CA USA
Date Reviewed: March 22, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Great Frame, Climbs like a mountain goat | | Weaknesses: | Those Pedals! | | Similar Products Used: | Trek 7000, 6500 | | Bike Setup: | All stock with Icon Bar Ends | | Bottom Line: | A great ride overall at the price point. Great Frame. If it had only come with clipless pedals I'd be even happier. Oh well it's the first upgrade. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jason
a Cross Country Rider
from Inlet, NY (Adirondacks)
Date Reviewed: March 6, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Local, Lake Placid, Saranac Lake | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Amazing ride and feel. Turns with subtle movements. Fast and fun. Great shock, great wheel system. Significant upgrades from the '99 model (which I have ridden extensively) warrants the price increase. An amazing Genesis frame at an unbeatable price when you consider all that you get. Best bike in the $800 price range on the market. | | Weaknesses: | Feels a bit heavy (not a big problem, it's still pretty light). Pedals are weak, upgrade to clipless if you have shoes or want to get a little hardcore. Otherwise this bike is super solid. | | Similar Products Used: | GT's, Trek's, Specialized, Cannondale's in same price range. 99 Kaitai, 99 Big Sur. | | Bike Setup: | Factory. I'm upgrading to clipless next paycheck:) | | Bottom Line: | If you are in the market for an amazingly fun, fast, great climbing hardtail with the Fisher Feel (yes I think Fishers do have a distinct ride), then this is your bike. It's a great first bike if you don't mind spending about a grand with necessary accessories like shorts, helmet, and bike rack. If you allready have an OK bike and want what I think is the best value on the market right now, shell out $850 bones, you will be very glad you did. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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