Submitted by
Joe
a Racer
from Pittsburgh, PA, USA Date Reviewed: February 1, 2003
Favorite Trail:
Very Technical
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$650.00
Purchased At:
Bike Line
Strengths:
Very Durable. Genesis Geometry is the best! It's so easy to maneuver while riding uphill, over trees, or anywhere. The price is right!
Weaknesses:
Pedals and saddle (but that's the same for most bikes). The fork is outdated now, so I'm hoping to get a Manitou Black or a Fox Fork soon.
Similar Products Used:
Gary Fisher 1999 Tassajara
Bike Setup:
I replaced the pedals, saddle, handlebars, and the big chainwheel. Now I have Crank Bros. Egg Beater pedals, WTB Speed V saddle, Easton Monkeylite riser handlebar, and a Salsa bash guard.
Bottom Line:
In 1999, I bought a Tassajara and my dad bought the Kaitai. After riding his bike a few times, I told him that he needed a new bike and I needed the Kaitai. On the trails it feels like a part of your body. It has stood up to trees, rocks, and bashing on other types of terrain. I ride my bikes hard, and this one seems to be able to take the heat. After two Fisher bikes, I will not ride anything else. If somehow it got totaled one day, and it wasn't rideable, I'd go right out to the bike shop and buy a new one. I think this bike is perfect for anybody just getting into the sport, or who has experience in racing.
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Submitted by
Rob
a Cross Country Rider
from Durham, NC Date Reviewed: May 17, 2002
Favorite Trail:
New Light, Rocky Road, Governor's Creek
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$600.00
Strengths:
Durability, this bike has survived more wrecks than I can count
Weaknesses:
Stock cranks, drive train, seat
Bike Setup:
Upgraded cranks/drivetrain to 9 spd LX/XT
Bottom Line:
This bike has just been replaced by an '01 Fuel as my off-road bike after taking some serious abuse. I got this bike in 1999 after not riding for 5 years and basically relearned how to ride on it. During the last 2 years the bike has survived several high speed impacts with rocks and trees, and has probally kept me out of the emergency room on more than one occassion. Even though I just got the Fuel, I'm keeping the KaiTai as my back-up/cruising bike, just throwing some slicks on it. A great bike to learn basic skills on.
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Submitted by
Larry
a Weekend Warrior
from Estonia Date Reviewed: May 16, 2002
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$750.00
Purchased At:
Bikes USA
Strengths:
Great bike for the money, genesis geometry rocks, good reliabilty, looks sweet
Weaknesses:
Saddle and pedals have to go immediately. Alivio front derailleur sucks but I can live with it, brakes aren't that good either but just get some better pads
Similar Products Used:
Quite a few including Scott, Specialized and Giant in about the same price range
Bike Setup:
Added fat barends, STX cranks, new saddle, clipless pedals
Bottom Line:
Ever since I started riding this bike I'm a Fisher patriot. It handles pretty well (not great) and both climbing and downhill are a breeze. I've tortured this thing for 3 years now and all I've managed to bust were the front chainrings on tougher climbs (twice). Great for a beginner, gradually upgrade as your wallet allows (try to go for full XT) and eventually you'll have an awesome bike cause the frame doesn't leave much to desire.
PS cut off the rubber protection things on the fork and it looks much better, havn't had any problems w/ it yet
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Submitted by
Chris Percy
a Weekend Warrior
from China, Maine, USA Date Reviewed: September 13, 2001
Favorite Trail:
ANY
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$650.00
Purchased At:
Bar Harbor Bike in Ellsworth
Strengths:
This bike is awesomely stiff and stable. Wicked forgiving. I climbed on it after not riding for four years confident I would eat dirt and have not seen the asphault yet.
Weaknesses:
The grips sweat and roll on the bars a bit. The saddle leaves a lot to be desired in the comfort department. The peddles do not belong on this bike. Upgrade the peddles and the seat and you will be all set.
Similar Products Used:
1993 GT Karakorum - which sucked out loud. A 1997 Scott front suspension which was rugged, but nothing like the Katai.
Bike Setup:
It has LX all around except for the crank which is a shimano "A" with a shimano "A" deralleur. Rock Shox Judy C front suspension with Bontrager Corvair wheels and hubs. The front is radial laced.
Bottom Line:
THIS BIKE ROCKS. I got a good deal buying last years model (when I bought it) for $300 off the tagged price. It is an XL so pretty much only I can ride it. It is rugged as hell and I would totally buy another Fisher if I ever have to replace this one. I have never ridden a bike this rugged or forgiving. I would highly recommend this bike for anyone who wants to spend all of their time off the beaten path. It is definitely not a road bike. It begs to be beaten up and thrashed. You should not own a fisher if you plan to ride on the sidewalk.
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Submitted by
Chuck Brands
a Cross Country Rider
from Seattle Date Reviewed: June 1, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Devil's Gulch
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$750.00
Purchased At:
Montlake Cycle
Strengths:
Frame, price.
Weaknesses:
Brakes, crankset.
Similar Products Used:
Kona, Klein.
Bottom Line:
Great bike for the money. Extremely comfortable and takes a beating. In two years I haven't had a single failure on frame or components. Gary Fisher builds 'em like a tank, albeit a tank that handles like a porsche.
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Submitted by
Daniel Richardson
a Racer
from San Diego, US Date Reviewed: April 30, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Single tracks
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$400.00
Purchased At:
Just purchased the Frame. UC cyc
Strengths:
The first thing I noticed about the bike was the geometry. Gary Fisher makes a wonderful frame. The frame is light and strong, and takes just about anything i do to it.
Weaknesses:
The two major problems with this frame is the decending prowess and the cornering ability. The top tube is placed at a angle that takes away from the cornering and puts it to comfort.
This is a strong compeditior, its fast, light and reliable on the single tracks. There are a few painful problems, but no bike is perfect. BOTH RATINGS ARE FOR THE FRAME ONLY
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Submitted by
Chris
a Weekend Warrior
from Summerland B.C. Date Reviewed: March 23, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Summerland Dump
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$700.00
Purchased At:
Kelowna Cycle
Strengths:
It's very stong for a XC frame, It's good for all the allround riding i do. The hasn't broke yet.
Weaknesses:
XC Frame, stock brakes, Crank and ft. derailer, and handle bar.
Similar Products Used:
VPS Team DH, CCM Excel, those are the only bikes i have riden so i don't know what to compare.
Bike Setup:
2000 Manitou X-vert, Bontrager Crow-Bar and rest is stock
Bottom Line:
The Bike has got me though the good times and the bad, i have had to do is replaced the derailers and bent the rims. The bike is also great for trials and urban freeride. SHES GRAND:)
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Submitted by
Jonathan T
a Weekend Warrior
from Austin, TX USA Date Reviewed: February 21, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Emma Long
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$350.00
Purchased At:
from a friend
Strengths:
Good climber, solid downhiller, very responsive, at a nice price.
Weaknesses:
The manitou shocks wore out quickly because of the cheap elastimer. They have replaced these shocks on the newer models though. My bottom bracket is also going out due to extensive abuse on my part
Bottom Line:
This is a fun reliable ride that can take whatever you dish out. Gary Fisher has my repeat business. I'm saving the cash and upgrading to a Sugar 3.
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Submitted by
Jim Parman
a Racer
from Fond du Lac, Wi Date Reviewed: February 8, 2001
Favorite Trail:
baird creek
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$4000.00
Purchased At:
schwinn cyclery and fitness
Strengths:
when pushed, it will roll
Weaknesses:
just the person riding it
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
Schwinn homegrown, rolf propel wheelset, avid mag brakes/levers, moxy pro seatpost, time atac carbon pedals, selle italia flite gel saddle, Manitou Mars C fork, titec hellbent xc handlebar, icon sterling crankset, xtr cassette, xt everything else
Bottom Line:
steve cannot keep up with me, man, does this boy dream, the only time he was ever able to keep up with me was when i was riding my 40+ lb. kona blast. there is no trail on earth steve can keep up with me. wtf. who does this boy think he is. he is just jealouse 'cause i am sponsored, and just because my bike is worth $4000 doesn't mean that it costed me $4000. Steve, any time any day. I'm not saying his bike is bad, but steve rides for fun, which i do, but i also like to be competitive, and his bike is perfect for him, as mine is perfect for me, both bikes suite their riders just fine. P.S. steve, I have aquired my old Mavics, they are nice, 221/formula f, and 222/deore lx r, i give 'em to you if you want.
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Submitted by
Stephen Roecker
a Cross Country Rider
from Neenah, WI, USA Date Reviewed: February 8, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Baird Creek
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$700.00
Purchased At:
Neenah Bike and Fitness
Strengths:
Reasonable price,great paint job, good handling, versitile, when pushed it can fly
Weaknesses:
The Alivio Crank four bolt setup I bent on my first ride but after replaced by the shop with the same crank it held. You have to replace the brakes do to the fact that they suck.
Bike Setup:
I only replaced the pedals with Bontrager RE-1 clipless, and a Bontrager Crowbar riserbar.
Bottom Line:
Gary Fisher giving you a deal so take it. I've seen one of my best friends spend over $4000 dollars to upgrade his Shwinn Homegrown and I can still keep up with him. Just remember its not always the bike thats the problem. This is a great bike for someone who wants to get serious but can't afford more. You could do worse for the same amount of money, I've seen it happen. This bike for is for someone whose learning the ropes, so break out our pencil and paper for Mountain Biking 101.
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Submitted by
Rob Robinson
a Cross Country Rider
from Essex Jct., VT Date Reviewed: January 26, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Costco
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$600.00
Purchased At:
Stowe Action Outfitters
Strengths:
Genesis Geometry, Price, Performance
Weaknesses:
Component Durability, 8-speed compatability
Similar Products Used:
Lots tested, few with any real time in the saddle
Bike Setup:
Upgraded Crank (Sachs), Front Der (XT), Saddle (Bonti FS+10), Pedals (Wellgo 800 SPD), Grips (Oury); Added Coda Paquito Bar Ends
Bottom Line:
This is a long term review of my 99 Kaitai. I had not ridden a bike in years, but as my kids got older I wanted a bike again. I got a hardtail MTB so that I could do bike paths with the family and also do XC riding with friends who are serious riders/racers.
In short, I love this bike. It was served me very well over the last 2 years. The fact is that if your not a serious rider $1500 - 2000 is a lot to spend on a ride. The $600 I spent was a good compromise for me (enough that I got some good parts [Judy, LX] and not too much to have to get divorced.)
I have had some durability issues with the component selection, though. I ride about once a week from April to October, 5-10 miles per ride. I replaced the chain after about a year (I'd estimate that was 350 miles tops.) I found that the middle ring on the crap Alivio crank was toast as well as the cheap BB. I ended up buying a whole new crankset, becuase getting the right "Alivio" ring (a standard LX would not fit) turned out to be a HUGE pain in the ass. I'm also wishing that the drive train was 9speed. Finding upgrade parts for the 8s trans. is difficult.
I was also unhappy with the BB mount front der. It was causing too much chain cross over resulting in poor shifting. I replaced that with XT and the shifting has improved.
This said, the bike has been great. It's not super light, which is OK since I don't race. And the heavier rims have lasted well. I'm a heavy rider (6' 0" 220#) and finesse is not my strong suit. I have definitely learned how to XC, clear obsticles and gained skills, thanks to a great bike. I really like the Genesis Geomerty, will definitely consider another Gary Fisher for my next bike. And now that I understand more, I'll proably flip for a more expensive bike.
If you are on a budget and are willing to upgrade parts as they wear-out, excellent choice.
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Submitted by
Mike Smrcka
a Weekend Warrior
from Barrie Ontario Canada Date Reviewed: October 24, 2000
Favorite Trail:
HardwoodHills
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1000.00
Purchased At:
Silent Sports
Strengths:
Great value for the $ (remember I'm in Canada) perfect bike for someone just getting into the sport. A frame you can start with and upgrade as you go.
A good starter bike or for someone on a budget. I'm moving up to full suspension but I will keep my KaiTai for sure.
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Submitted by
Tim Reid
a Weekend Warrior
from Gananoque, Ontario, Canada Date Reviewed: September 24, 2000
Favorite Trail:
blue mountain
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
T.I. Cycle
Strengths:
Nice Frame, good colors, i can't say the same for the the 2000. strong wheel set very durable, genesis geometry, feels comfortable offroad, strong, and feels close to the ground for more control and balance
Weaknesses:
BB. cranks. handle bars. seat post. front and rear deraileurs. saddle. brakes.. levers big time. cassette. low end parts but the shifting works well, chain is a bit much.
Similar Products Used:
Rockey Vapor
Bike Setup:
xtr hubs with mavic x517 rims, race face next lp cranks, un-52 bb. easton ct2 bars, avid arch rival brakes and speed dial 2.0 levers. bontrager seat post and stem, selle italia xo saddle, shimano clipless pedals, xt cassette
Bottom Line:
This is a great bike to own I really like, the parts are low end mostly, but with a few upgrades its a beautiful smooth bike good for offroad and on road, I recommend it for anyone is starting to ride. it is a good bike for most people but it does have it limits and you should know what you want before you buy a bike. this bike will take punishment but only to a certain level before stuff starts to fail. the crank set on it is one of the weakest spot with the 4 bolt pattern there is to much space between each bolt to keep it strong and will bend on tough offroad.
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Submitted by
Mattheau LeDuc
a Racer
from Harwich, Ma USA Date Reviewed: September 24, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Mission Viejo National Park
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$550.00
Purchased At:
North Conway, NH
Strengths:
pretty and nice name...(okay, my girlfriend made me write that.) Now for the real stuff...This is her bike, but I have yet to find a bike that handles quite like this one. The geometry is great. I'm 6'0" and her bike is a size SMALL and it's still comfortable for me. The way it handles is also really good. The fork has some preload adjusters, so you can really stiffen it up if you want. I've raced this in a Dual Slalom, and it handled/held up VERY WELL!
Weaknesses:
The only complaint here is that the components are not the top of the line, but for the price...I can't complain at all.
Similar Products Used:
Kona Roast, GT Backwoods, Specialized Stumpjumper/Rockhopper A1,
Bike Setup:
Stock--except for ClubRoost riser bars (highly recommend), and Diamondback Platform pedals (also highly recommend)
Bottom Line:
The bottom line is, I can't think of many other bikes out there today that you could buy for this price and get so much out of. It has served us well and we are HARD on bikes. We highly recommend. With a few (preferencial) upgrades, this bike KICKS A**!
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Submitted by
jaime
a Cross Country Rider
from princeton, nc usa Date Reviewed: September 2, 2000
Favorite Trail:
abandoned rock quarries
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$630.00
Purchased At:
bikes usa of raleigh
Strengths:
of course the genisis tech frame.... oh, the straight bar and the grips are pretty cool too.
Weaknesses:
components such as b.bracket, crank set, derailers and cassette.
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
recently, raceface 9 sp crankset, shimano XT 9 sp cassette, shimano LX b.bracket, front and rear shimano LX derailers.
Bottom Line:
i would recommend this bike to starters and finishers alike. with stock components this bike rules, but with upgrades this bike ROCKS!!! you couldn't get a better hardtail frame than this one(for the $$$).. yes, upgrades cost a pretty penny but worth it when applied to this RIPPIN frame. God bless Gary Fisher..
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Submitted by
Joe
a Cross Country Rider
from Chula Vista Date Reviewed: August 12, 2000
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Good value. Can be found cheap. Good frame that can be upgraded while not wasting your money (Component Spec, screams for upgrade). Genesis Geometry.
Weaknesses:
Most components are basic(that's why it doesn't cost a grand or more). Crankset, Front D, Saddle (switched saddle after test riding the bike in the store), pedals. Bent chainring with only moderate riding. Old Alivio crank and bottom bracket weigh a ton compared to my new XT.
Bike Setup:
'99 Kaitai, XT crankset, XT front & rear D, Time atac pedals, Easton Monkeylite carbon riser bar, Rock Shox susp. seatpost, Spec. Body Geometry Comp. Saddle, and???
Bottom Line:
This a follow-up review after 6months of riding my Kaitai. I bought the bike as a first mountain bike. I now wish I would have bought a more expensive bike with many of the components that I have switched. I had no idea that I would aquire such a serious addiction to two wheels and dirt. I think I need professional help. Only trips to area bike shops, followed by immediate doses of some serious singletrack to test out my new toys, enable me to stay sane.
I once heard that if your serious about riding then you should get the most expensive bike you can afford. That's probably good advice, becuase in the end its probably cheaper. I have learned alot though, and have had fun upgrading my bike. The Kaitai is a great first bike and can be found for a reasonable price. However, many of the components are basic. If you catch this disease like me, and have an insatiable desire for dirt, then this bike can be upgraded forever due to its quality frame (and basic components).
If you can afford more , then buy more. If you can't or are just starting out and are unsure of your seriousness, this is a good bike that you can always add to later.
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Submitted by
Stephen Quintyne
a Weekend Warrior
from Plantation, FL Date Reviewed: July 28, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Markham Park
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
Genesis geometry, climbs, light weight, great value, lifetime warranty on frame
Weaknesses:
stock brakes are weak
Similar Products Used:
Trek 6500, Cannondale F400
Bike Setup:
Syncros stem & seatpost, Bontrager bar, XTR front & rear deraileur, XT cranks, Shimano 858 pedals, Specialized team tires
Bottom Line:
Bought this as my first mountain bike & couldn't be happier. Got a great deal at $465. Frame is definitely worthy of upgrades. Recently the bike was killing my back & I was about to get a full suspension when I realized my frame was cracked. I'm waiting on Fisher to send the replacement(it's been one week). This bike can definitely be raced with a few minor upgrades, and for the price it just can't be beat. If I had to do it again, I probably would have just bought a bike with all the components I want already on it. However, I would highly recommend this bike to the budget minded enthusiast in the market for their first bike, or the budget minded person who wants a great frame that can be upgraded on as they desire.
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Submitted by
Matt Spencer
a Racer
from Derby Kansas USA Date Reviewed: July 15, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Crested Butte 409
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Genisis Geometry is the best, Goat + Cheeta = Fisher! Cool team colors
Weaknesses:
When i got it stock, the weight was a little high, but with upgrades, and a little less mexican food, it was just right!
Similar Products Used:
NONE!!
Bike Setup:
Panaracer Fire XC pro red tires, race face cranks, sid XC, XT Front and rear der. brakes, and shifters.
Bottom Line:
This is a great bike for the money, I got mine for 650 at a local store cause they still had some from last year. If you are young like me and want to get into racing, buy it! If you are a sixty-five year old granny that likes to go riding with her family, buy it! It is a great bike for anyone except for racers who love biking so much that they would sacrafice cows to them (like i will someday). Since i live in the middle of kansas, riding gets kind of boring, and im 15, so i cant drive anywhere by myself. Me and some of my friends from football that are seniors go out to lawrence and missouri about every other weekend and we have been to colorado twice this summer. out in crested butte, this bike was great! it handled singletrack with such grace and finess that i dont think i could ever go back to regular geometry. If you find this bike anywhere, buy it and upgrade it. it is fabulous stock, but it can be even better!!!! If any good riders are ever passing through kansas, look me up.
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Submitted by
Adam O'Reilly
a Cross Country Rider
from Sackville, NB, Canada Date Reviewed: June 20, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Any where with mud
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
1) The forks are good for an entry level racer 2) The weight (26 lbs) is not that bad for the price 3) The bike is race ready with a few adjustments 4) Genisis Geometry is a great feature and cheap in this case
Weaknesses:
1) front derailer 2) Tires are great but wear quickly
Similar Products Used:
Trek 930
Bike Setup:
I road the bike stock until this season then i put on a Coda riser bar, IRC kujo Dh, Shimano Clipless petals, Z2 Bams
Bottom Line:
The bike is great for the price and you get a lightweight frame with race geometry at an entry level price. Why bother buying a high end fisher if you don't race religiously. The bike is great and i plan to keep mine for a while and just upgrade it. I will have this bike even when i buy my next bike. It truley is a great climber and a good bike for doing all sorts of things.
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Submitted by
Brad St Laurent
a Cross Country Rider
from Windham, NH Date Reviewed: June 9, 2000
Favorite Trail:
FOMBA's Trails
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Great Frame with a decent shock and wheels/hubs.
Weaknesses:
The seat will destroy your private areas in a week. The brakes will also need an upgrade rather soon. Other parts should be good enough to wait to replace until you break them
Similar Products Used:
An older GT Tequesta....same idea in a steal frame.
Bike Setup:
Specialized GB seat....a must have. The Time pedals/ shoes are on order now.
Bottom Line:
I ride hard 3 times a week on average as well as race 5 or so times this season. Looking forward to upgrading this bike over the next year to make it a really phat machine. The Kaitai is a keeper.....esp. for the price. A frame that is VERY worthy of an upgrade over time. Great for someone looking for a bike that will be race ready with a few minor upgrades or just able to take a pounding on the trails after work.
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Submitted by
Henry
a Weekend Warrior
from Connecticut Date Reviewed: May 20, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Tahoe Rim Trail
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
A good buy for the money, Genesis Geometry, a fairly light frame.
Weaknesses:
Heavy fork, some parts are low quality. Genesis geometry may be too squirrely for some.
Bike Setup:
Plain old Kaitai
Bottom Line:
This bike is excellent for the beginner or for someone who needs a cheap bike to grow out of (like me.) The Genesis Geometry is very responsive, but i think this is good. There are some areas of the bicycle that have been compremised to save money, but this is to be expected. The fork (a Judy C) is plush but heavy at 4.5 pounds. This bike just screams "upgrade me!"
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Submitted by
Dan
a Weekend Warrior
from Layton Date Reviewed: May 10, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Stokes State Forest trails
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
The frames lightness is a definate plus. The components are not that great like the front and rear derailer and crank set. I love th way the bike feels though.
Weaknesses:
Cheaper components
Bike Setup:
A, LX, Manitiou Spyder, Rapid Fire, Dia Comp brakes, Kore Stem.
Bottom Line:
This bike is great for those who like to just bust a trail hard. It is very forgiving and the frame is super light. I would suggest changing the derailers and shock.
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Submitted by
Tommy Henneman
a Weekend Warrior
from San Jose, CA. US Date Reviewed: April 26, 2000
Favorite Trail:
around Lake Tahoe
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
Handling, shox but im pretty light
Weaknesses:
The seat, brakes and components could be better
Similar Products Used:
specialized rockhopper/stumpjumper, gary fisher big sur, trek 6000
Bike Setup:
same as when i bought it except for tires(panaracers)
Bottom Line:
Its a good bike, especially for beginers. the components could be better. Im getting all xtr when i get enough $(im only 15) Im happy with it and i think all gary fishers rock.
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Submitted by
Eric McCollum
a Cross Country Rider
from Vero Beach, FL Date Reviewed: April 20, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Hard Rock
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
I love the frame! The wheels are nice too. The black looks awesome.
Weaknesses:
The fork is heavy, crank, and front der.
Similar Products Used:
other lower fishers
Bike Setup:
I have upgraded everything except for the headset, wheels and frame.
Bottom Line:
I'm only 15 so money can be a problem. I ride hard core xc and have just started racing. I got this bike because it was the best bang for the buck and because i couldn't afford anything higher. I've been riding harder and harder ever since I got this bike so almost every component has been dramaticly upgraded. I don't want to go through and name all the changes I have made, but some are 9.0sl, various xt parts and a manitou sxr is in the mail. The bike handles great on technical single track, and there is no competitor in its $ range. I would suggest this bike to anyone who is starting racing and loves to build and upgrade a great frame. Five flamers for this one!
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Submitted by
steve
a Weekend Warrior
from virginia Date Reviewed: April 4, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Hollywood (Lodi) Farms
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
Genesis geometry
Weaknesses:
Front derailleur, brakes, pedals
Bike Setup:
Raceface Turbine LP crankset, Raceface Taperlock Cro-moly BB, Time ATAC alium pedals, Terry Mens Liberator saddle, Shimano LX front derailleur, Bontrager Race Lite ski bar ends, Icon Durante stem, (am adding Avid Arch Rival 50 brankes and levers)
Bottom Line:
Excellent beginner mountain bike (my first); handling is top-notch, great climber once you get the hang of the Genesis geometry; a good bike to grow with and upgrade as desired. I've basically built a new, improved bike around the frame and I enjoy the bike more with every upgrade. With the exception of the saddle and pedals, the upgrades were not mandatory, just preferential (and part of my self-education in bike maintenance). Definately do your anatomy a favor and ditch the stock seat; give it to someone you don't like. Otherwise you'll pound out your prostate like a pancake.
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Submitted by
Russell
a Weekend Warrior
from Ft. Worth, Texas, USA Date Reviewed: March 29, 2000
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
Frame, Rims, tires, fork
Weaknesses:
Componentry- Crank, Brakes, Front derailleurs, and saddle.
Bike Setup:
LX-crank, brakes (new style), and front derailleur. Stiffer springs installed in Judy fork, Shimano 545 pedals, Shimano UN72 bottom bracket.
Bottom Line:
This has been a great bike for me. When I set out to purchase a bike last year, I was looking for a bike that had all the components that I wanted. I had my eye on the Paragon at first but had to accept the reality that my pocket book did not allow it. I bought the Kaitai because it was cheaper and it was on sale! WoooHooo! Dispite having some cheaper components, this is not a bad bike. After riding the bike for two months, my rear V-brake broke. Since the bike was still under warranty, this was not too much of a problem. This got me thinking about upgrading my components. The rear derailluer is Shimano LX and the front derailluer is Alivio? I never understood why bike manufactures seem to put a cheaper derailluer on the front than what is on the back. Since this all involves the transmission part of the bike, it only makes sense to have these two components match. Also, the saddle is a little hard on the fruit of the loom! Since how I am a heavy rider, I thought the fork had too weak of springs for my taste. Stiffer springs were in order here. For a lighter rider, the fork springs would probably be OK. After doing all of the upgrading, I have a bike that really rocks. Handling of the bike is great. Frame geometry is perfect. This is a great starter bike for someone just getting into mountain biking. The price does not put you on the streets and it gives you a good base to upgrade on. I give it 5 chilis for value and 4 chilis for overall rating due to the brake problem and the cheaper stock components that came on the bike. If not for the brake problem, I would have given it 5 chilis for overall rating.
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Submitted by
Shawn
a Weekend Warrior
from Atlanta, GA Date Reviewed: March 28, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Tsali
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Genesis geometry, Price
Weaknesses:
very hard saddle
Bike Setup:
stock + bar ends
Bottom Line:
This is my first *real* mtn bike. I finally got rid of my old '93 Nisiki. I was looking for a frame worth upgrading later on if I wanted. This is it! The more I ride this bike, the more I love it! The genesis geom. makes climbing a breeze. I'm 5'10" and and the medium frame fits like a glove. The shocks seem fine to me -- I weigh 170 lbs. The saddle is quite hard -- I may fix that in the near future. My next purchase will be clipless pedals. I would recommend this bike to any and every person wishing to purchase a great intermediate level bike for no more than 1 month's rent. You can always upgrade with discontinued components for cheap later on :-)
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Submitted by
Joe
a Weekend Warrior
from Chula Vista, CA Date Reviewed: March 26, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Price/Value, Genesis Geometry
Weaknesses:
Saddle-Switched it before I left the store, Front D, Pedals
Similar Products Used:
1st MTB, old Schwinn road bikes
Bike Setup:
Stock except for the saddle--Spec. Body Geom.
Bottom Line:
Great bike for the price! I looked around for quite awhile before getting my Kaitai and had actually considered buying a lesser bike until it went on sale. I got a great deal at my LBS-Mission Cyclery of Bonita, CA www.missioncyclery.com I think they still have some left. This is my first mountain bike, and I think it was a great choice. It has a good frame with Genesis Geometry, and is a bike that you can upgrade without wasting your money. I recently went on my first serious night ride with some other more experienced riders with all sorts of set-ups. The Kaitai never allowed me to embarass myself--it was very stable and gave me a great deal of confidence on a variety of terrain. Five Flamin' Chilitos!
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Submitted by
Dave G.
a Cross Country Rider
from Muskoka,Ontario,Canada Date Reviewed: March 24, 2000
Favorite Trail:
Porcupine Ridge
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
genesis frame
Weaknesses:
front derailler,judy 'C' forks
Similar Products Used:
norco sasquatch
Bike Setup:
upgrad to Manitou Xpert forks, raiser bars, shorter stem
Bottom Line:
excellent bike for the price ($1000 CDN.)the fork upgrade improves riding enjoyment big time! riser bars pretty much common place in Canada, after initial break in tune up the shifting works well, brakes are strong, crank set runs smooth. Medium size frame ample for a six-foot 195lbs. rider. Perfect trail package, can handle extreme riding and worked well in the snow and cold.
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Submitted by
CosmikCaleb
a Cross Country Rider
from Boston Ma Date Reviewed: March 19, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Genesis Geometry, Overall ride
Weaknesses:
Some of the parts . No name brakes, the pedals suck hard.
Similar Products Used:
Kona NuNu,Trek 6500,Gaint,Specialized......
Bike Setup:
as is
Bottom Line:
This bike is the best bike for me. It performes like a dream. All the other bikes I tested felt like ridding a tank,the Truck I mean Trek was the worst. I have only had this bike for 3 weeks so far I am in a state of Nirvana. I cant coment on the Judy C I need the harder coils. If you are looking for A bike that will grow with you and flow with you this could be it. I will do a review later on after I have killed it.
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Submitted by
Cary
a Weekend Warrior
from Walnut Creek, CA, USA Date Reviewed: February 15, 2000
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Strengths:
Frame, Geometry, Comfort
Weaknesses:
Front Derailer, Cranks, Brakes
Similar Products Used:
Cannondale F300, Trek 6000, Giant
Bike Setup:
Switched to firm springs in the fork, awaiting Avid 1.9 levers, V25 Brakes and Shimano 545 pedals.
Bottom Line:
I was looking at getting back into riding, and having always had Cannondale road bikes went and looked at their mountain bikes. I tried a discontinued M800 Beast of the East, which fit me horribly and rode like a rock. I then tried an F300 which was about the worst bike I have ever ridden. If you pulled the front end up, you felt the shock clunk as it topped out.
I then tried a Trek 6000 which felt much better and I would have considered seriously had I not tried a Fisher Aquila. When I got on the Fisher, I knew that it fit me right. I then tried a Giant, not bad but it didn't feel as good. I happened to run accoss a discontinued 99 Kaitai, rode it and knew that it was the right bike. Being that I was going to mostly be riding canal trails until the weather dries, I had the dealer swap the tires for trek invert 2 tires.
The bike rides wonderfully, especially after I had the front springs switched to the firm ones (I am 6'00" and 225lbs). I absolutely love it an look forward to riding it whenever time and the weather allow. My only complaints are the front derailer does not always shift smoothly, and the brakes are not as good as I would like. I am gong to upgrade to Avid brakes, so that should be fixed soon. Concerning the comments about the seat, I didn't like it the first few rides, but now love it since I got is adjusted correctly.
I am absolutely sold on Gary Fisher bikes and will by another when this one is worn out. The only thing I would do differently if I did it again, would be to plunk down the extra money for last years X-Caliber. This bike deserves 6 chilis, I can't wait to go and ride it.
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Submitted by
nik
a Cross Country Rider
from us Date Reviewed: February 12, 2000
Favorite Trail:
blue hillls
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
every thing
Weaknesses:
nothing
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
stock
Bottom Line:
i love the bike and the fork gives no bob. the frame is very stiff and works well. its the fastest bike ive ridden and any cross country rider will fit it well. i dont notice the different geometry but it seems to have an effect. the derallers all work swiftly and will usually change. it is much lighter than i have thought it would be. when i first roe it outside i was able to go twice as fast as myold specelized hard rock. the fork does not seem 4+ pounds after some riding and the agility of the bike is wonerfull. the bike is a little too big for me now but my wheelies and endosare more than i probably could handle on any other bike i have owned. the handelbar grips seem extremly soft but not so they are muchy. this is a very zippy bike and it is possible to race and finish 1st with some clipless pedals and a strong rider. i looked and compared and i am possotive that i made the right decision and it is worth the $. buy it.
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Submitted by
nik
a Cross Country Rider
from us Date Reviewed: February 12, 2000
Favorite Trail:
blue hillls
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
every thing
Weaknesses:
nothing
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
stock
Bottom Line:
i love the bike and the fork gives no bob. the frame is very stiff and works well. its the fastest bike ive ridden and any cross country rider will fit it well. i dont notice the different geometry but it seems to have an effect. the derallers all work swiftly and will usually change. it is much lighter than i have thought it would be. when i first roe it outside i was able to go twice as fast as myold specelized hard rock. the fork does not seem 4+ pounds after some riding and the agility of the bike is wonerfull. the bike is a little too big for me now but my wheelies and endosare more than i probably could handle on any other bike i have owned. the handelbar grips seem extremly soft but not so they are muchy. this is a very zippy bike and it is possible to race and finish 1st with some clipless pedals and a strong rider. i looked and compared and i am possotive that i made the right decision and it is worth the $. buy it.
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Submitted by
Jun Robiso
a Weekend Warrior
from Chiacgo Date Reviewed: February 5, 2000
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Frame Genesis Geometry, components and extremely nice color patterns.
Weaknesses:
Sub-par cranks, front der., brakes (should have been LX componenets all the way). Hard saddle and heavy fork. Lastly total bike weight.
Similar Products Used:
None. Although not my fisrt MTB, first was Specialized Hardrock (can't be compared to GF Kaitai - totally different leagues).
Bike Setup:
Stock set-up, added GF Fish Sticks (bar ends).
Bottom Line:
The Kaitai was my first MTB with all the components a first time owner would want with an affordable price tag. Although making some modifications such as replacing the Judy C fork to SID SL/XL series to shave some pounds. Making it all LX components would add more to it's superb peformance, looks and weight. The saddle would do for the meantime.
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Josh Hayes
a Weekend Warrior
from KC, MO Date Reviewed: January 21, 2000
Favorite Trail:
any trail that is outside
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Love the Genesis!!
Weaknesses:
Alivio cranks and frt der. Pedals Front pads rub on some cornering.
Similar Products Used:
None - First bike I rode
Bike Setup:
Stock except for Shimano 545's and bar ends.
Bottom Line:
My first mtb. Was recommended by a trustworthy bikeshop employee. I love it!! I have ridden friends bikes without the Genesis and can really tell a difference.
I am going to upgrade the cranks and frt der. when I can afford it.
In hindsight I should have gone with the Big Sur but hey, a guy has to eat.
I am going to ride my Kaitai until I break it.
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Submitted by
seb
a Cross-Country Rider
from montreal canada Date Reviewed: January 1, 2000
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Fantastic frame, both in terms of geometry and built quality. In fact this frame is extremely similar to higher end frames used on the Procaliber model and some of Gary Fisher finest bikes (except for the slightly heavier weigth of the frame and the fact that it doesn't feature disk brake capability). The bike behave extremely well: it is quick, fast and truly responsive. It almost react before you think about your moves ;). Very good stability; even on snow. The stock tires appear to be very good.
Weaknesses:
Some cheaps mechanical parts (alivio). I have problems to rapidly shift speeds sometime which may be truly annoying in extreme situations. The paint job... Actually, i am not talking about the look of it which i find ok but about the quality of the paint used by itself. I haven't crashed with the bike so far but there is already few dent on the frame. No brake capability (or at least not on the frame for the rear wheel). I could have liked to eventually upgrade to disk brakes but i can't....
Similar Products Used:
Trek 6000 Trek 6500 Gary Fisher Tequila (aka aquila) Few GT models
Bike Setup:
plain stock except for the awfuly hard seat post which has been replaced by a softer GF one.
Bottom Line:
Fantastic bike. The obvious choice for me in this price range. This bike is obviously built to last pretty long and it have always delivered the goods, even in the worse riding situations. Of course this bike isn't perfect but is this such a thing anyway????......
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Submitted by
Ben Jensen
a Cross-Country Rider
from Bismarck Date Reviewed: November 29, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Andrews Creek Trail (ND Badlands)
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Genesis Geometry is a plus. Lightweight. Good climber. Seems to downhill well. The Kaitai is a very versatile ride.
Weaknesses:
-Needs real pedals- (clipless) -Alivio front derailleur and crank -brakes could be upgraded
Similar Products Used:
Schwinn Moab 3 Trek 6500 Trek 7000 Klein Attitude Comp
This is a great bike for someone who isn't all about the benjamins. I'm a poor college student, and I was able to scrape up enough funds to purchase one. I've had a great time on this bike, but I had to upgrade a couple things. First, I don't dig the clip-and-strap pedal thing, so I put some ritcheys on. Second, I'm all about Kevlar tires, so when I bought the bike, I had the shop swap the stocks for a stellar set of Continental Leader Pros. I'm not too happy with the alivio junk that comes on this bike, but for the price, I shouldn't be so picky. Even after the pedals and tires, I spent about $670. Also, it seems to be very durable. I drilled a tree on a nasty downhill once, and the bike came out pretty much unharmed. I was a little scuffed up though. I would definately recomend the Kaitai to anyone who can't afford a beefhouse bike, but loves to ride hard. Happy thrashin'.
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Submitted by
Robb Fernald
a Cross-Country Rider
from Cleveland Oh Date Reviewed: November 24, 1999
Favorite Trail:
local trails
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Love those Judy Cs!!!!! Genesis Geometry is great. good components. Awesome bike for the $$$$ cool paint job!
Weaknesses:
Brake springs are a little weak (causes some rubbing) Seat like a rock! Alvio crank
Similar Products Used:
Big Sur, 98 Hoo koo
Bike Setup:
Stock: Judy Cs, Lx and Alvio, WTB seat, tires, and some other stuff.
Bottom Line:
Wow!!! Great bike for the cash. Awesome shocks and good components. I would suggest getting clipless pedals (and a new crank if you have the$) pretty light weight. good tires!!! put on bar ends! GET IT!!!
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Submitted by
Jimmy Jam
a Cross-Country Rider
from St Paul, MN Date Reviewed: November 18, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Lutsen MT
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Genesis Geometry Love the Judy C.
Weaknesses:
Hard seat (very replaceable) Brakes rub a bit, I need to mess c them every so often. Alivio cranks (also replaceable)
Similar Products Used:
My x-girlfriend
Bike Setup:
Gary Fisher Kaitai, c Judy C, all shimano LX, or XT components.
Bottom Line:
Genesis Geometry rocks!! Easy riding, have been having a blast on all terrain. Road this bike for the MS 150 road tour. Never so comfortable in all my life. Get rid of the Alivio, slap on some clipless pedals, and you'll be there. Judy C feels great. Much control c smooth travel. My favorite color *Sun shiny yellow*. Climbs are easy, downhills are a blast. All around in 2 years when it's time to replace I'll be looking for the next generation Kaitai, or Big Sur. Peace!!
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Submitted by
Jon Commander Bond
a Weekend Warrior
from N Central CT Date Reviewed: November 13, 1999
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Genesis Geometry, Price, fit, cool paint job, Judy C (great for the $$$)
Weaknesses:
Brakes have really weak springs... after about 30 mins. technical, fast off road, would often rub. Alivio front der. and Crankset could benefit from clipless pedals
Similar Products Used:
Gary Fisher Big Sur (worth the extra money, I just didn't HAVE the extra money) Giant (i think) Sr2, Raleigh m80
Bike Setup:
Stock, except replacing brakes (getting Avid Arch Rival 50s w/ SD 3.0L levers... being shipped as I type!) And eventually upgrading front mech and crankset
Bottom Line:
An INCREDIBLE bike! you'd swear this thing had 4 wheels, its so damn stable. In 4 inch deep mud, semi-thick, going about 30 - Sure, it slowed the bike down, and the front and rear fishtailed (weird thought, 2 tailed fish, no head...) anyway, both sides fishtailing, but I didn't worry ONCE about falling over. Did the same thing with a friends bike, nearly got a mouthful of mud! The genesis geometry is incredible, takes a little while to get used to, but decending is incredible, and you climb like a mt goat! Gary Fisher's reputation and warantee are great too... 1 year on components (but I've heard about them taking it more than a year), LIFETIME frame warantee!!!! If you have more money to spend, go get yourself a Big Sur. I'm talking about the '99, the 2000 model has upgraded some, so its more expensive. I believe I got the last '99 on sale on the east coast, so sorry if you can't find one! The real bottom line? : GET ONE! (or a Big Sur!)
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Submitted by
Jason
a Weekend Warrior
from Hammond Date Reviewed: November 7, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Hooper
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Fast, corners well, excellent bike for the price, bitchin' paint
Weaknesses:
Alivio front der. and cranks
Similar Products Used:
Raleigh
Bike Setup:
stock w/ bar ends
Bottom Line:
For the $ you can't beat it! I got mine on a 1999 clearence sale. $749.00 to start then mark down to $699.00 and then 15% off of that!!!! Came to $594.00 + tax. The judy c's are great but the Alivio has to go! Christmas is only 2 mos. away and I already have an XT front der., LX cranks, and clipless pedals on my list! Fisher K.T. Rules!!!!!! On a side note where did all of you guys learn to spell???? Come on fellas!!! I'm hoping that some of you are still in elem. school b/c you spell like you are!!!!
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Submitted by
vegereg
a Weekend Warrior
from cucamonga,ca. Date Reviewed: October 23, 1999
Favorite Trail:
marshall canyon,ca.
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
handles great, pretty light,judy 2000 xc fork.
Weaknesses:
seat, pedals, tires.
Similar Products Used:
Gary Fisher Big Sur Specialized Rockhopper
Bike Setup:
replaced seat,rear tire,traded crusier bar for a Tomac riser, changed judy fork to 100mm.
Bottom Line:
Just bought my Kaitai 3 weeks ago. The y2k is really nice.I was unhappy with the seat, more of a torture device, will replace the pedals for clipless, replaced the WTB racingraptors for some velociraptors. Had to replace shifting cables and housings to fit riser bar. With the 100mm of travel my kaitai handles outstanding. It's a great climber and downhill singletrack is a dream. Outstanding value for the price.
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Submitted by
Mike
a Weekend Warrior
from Liverpool, NY Date Reviewed: October 14, 1999
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
frame, fork, shocks, rims
Weaknesses:
HARD SEAT!!!! pedals
Similar Products Used:
Gary Fisher Big Sur Treks Cannondale M400 Klein
Bike Setup:
stock
Bottom Line:
Great bike
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Submitted by
Air-Knight
a Cross-Country Rider
from Buffalo Date Reviewed: October 13, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Holliday Valley
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
faster coasting bike geometry strong frame
Weaknesses:
not enough braking power; shifting is shakey; handle-bar is too short for bar end; suspension is squeaky
braking power and shifting is still acceptable. but the handle-bar is way too short for adding bar end even though i squeezed it on anyway. One very best thing I found 'bout my KaiTai is when I was goin' straight downhill, without paddling, my bike goes a lot faster than others, and i mean 5-10 mi/hr faster. I actually fell behind, catch up, and passed my friends from a hill, all of us didnt paddle.
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Submitted by
Hugh
a Cross-Country Rider
from Syracuse, NY Date Reviewed: October 10, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Skytop
Duration Product Used:
tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
Light, stunning, good bike for the $,
Weaknesses:
SEAT! pedals, riding position,
Similar Products Used:
Jamis X-Country Haro Vector Cannondale M400 Gary Fisher X-Caliber
Bike Setup:
stock
Bottom Line:
THis is a pretty good bike. It's definately worth the money. My buddy just got one and he loves it, all except the pedals. Both have broken already, and he's only used it off-road twice. The seat has homosexual tendencies. The shock is pretty good, but it seems a little soft.
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Submitted by
Larry
a Weekend Warrior
from Tallinn Date Reviewed: October 9, 1999
This bike rocks! The feel is amazing, it just fits. Does great uphill and the downhill is awesome. It feels better on downhill than most full suspensions i've tried! However, i would've gladly paid more if it had had an lx front deraillur and crankset, and a better saddle. This bike is just so agile, you can get past and over everything with it! Five flaming f*ckers!
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Submitted by
Doug
a Cross-Country Rider
from New York Date Reviewed: September 26, 1999
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Great fork and Genesis geometry
Weaknesses:
Components and seat.
Bottom Line:
Excellant bike for the money and a great ride.
Overall Rating:
Submitted by
Rob Robinson
a Weekend Warrior
from Essex, VT Date Reviewed: September 10, 1999
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Genesis Judy C Genesis Team Issue paint job Genesis
Weaknesses:
The Judy is a little soft (I'm going to put in stiffer springs next year) Needs clipless pedals
Similar Products Used:
Marin Nail Trail Trek 6500 Trek 6000 (2000 model) Trek 930 Schwinn Homegrown (a pals '97) Trek 7000 ('96 or '97)
Bike Setup:
Stock w/ Coda Paquito bar ends
Bottom Line:
I did way to much research, and looked at components WAY to much. I was totally convinced that I wanted a Trek 6500, until I actually rode one. The fit just wasn't there for me.One the way out of town I stopped at a shop just to se what they had, and I rode the Kaitai. It fit!! It was comfortable, and on sale ($599). I made a total impulse by, and have been very happy.I total buy Genesis geometry. Adding bar ends and a little practice, this bike climbs like mad. This is my first MTB so I don't have a lot of basis for comparison, but I'm very happy w/ my selection.
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Submitted by
Steve
a Weekend Warrior
from M'boro, TN Date Reviewed: September 9, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Franklin State Park
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Great ride. Genesis frame geometry is worth it all.
Weaknesses:
components except for the Rock Shox Judy C.
Similar Products Used:
tested a Cannondale F400
Bike Setup:
First Mountain bike.
Bottom Line:
I would buy another GF with the Genesis geometry. Would probably compare the Kaitai with the Big Sur. I added clipless pedals. Worth it all.
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Submitted by
Capt. Ron
a Weekend Warrior
from Boise, ID Date Reviewed: August 25, 1999
Favorite Trail:
I'm a newbie! Rode hells gulch once!
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
Feels good, frame rocks, very upgradeable, geometry feels right, components ok, rims good, frame has a lifetime warranty! Light.
Weaknesses:
Seat sux! Get a new one. I guess it depends on your skill level what you think about the rest. Low end components, as usual, for this class bike.
Similar Products Used:
Owned a Cannondale M300 stiff front fork or whatever it's called. Test rode; Trek 6500, Rockhopper FS, Kona Nunu, Raleigh M80?, Trek 6000, GF Aquila.
Bike Setup:
My Cannon was decent for town riding, Light!!, but not a offroader, older model, threaded fork.
Bottom Line:
This bike feels awesome. I gave up on comparing components and just shopped for a frame that felt good. It felt better than the other bikes I rode, it said buy me. Your going to wear out your drive train, rims, front fork, get the bike that feels the best for you. This one did it for me! Big Stiffy! Don't rule out the GF Marlin, it rides pretty damn good. If you upgrade the components it might even be better? My friend owns one and I didn't ride it until I got the Kaitai. Felt pretty solid. I'm not a experienced rider, but the Kaitai felt twitchy compared to the Marlin. Might be my experience level. But worth investigating. Gonna try and cash in that lifetime warranty on the frame!!!! See you in Boise!!! Drink beer. 4 turds, because I haven't owned it long...
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Submitted by
jp
a Cross-Country Rider
from montreal,Quebec Date Reviewed: August 18, 1999
if it had full lx and a indy c long travel instead of a spyder it would have been a bestseller
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Submitted by
Dave
a Weekend Warrior
from SoCal Date Reviewed: August 13, 1999
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
Frame, Frame, and Frame
Weaknesses:
Seat
Bike Setup:
Stock
Bottom Line:
For a beginner like me, this is more bike than I need, for now and the foreseeable future. I'd rather grow into a quality bike than outgrow a cheap one and pay out more money to replace it. I changed the incredibly hard seat already, which is no big deal. If anyone is wondering, the Mfr. says Kai Tai (two words) is a peninsula in New Zealand. Nothing is perfect, so I give it four hot ones.
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Submitted by
COLBY CHASE
a Weekend Warrior
from SLC, ut Date Reviewed: August 13, 1999
Favorite Trail:
climb to the top of the mountain...
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
THE FRAME, REAR DERAILER, JUDY FORK IS GROOVY...
Weaknesses:
Crank, pedals, front rims could be 32 hole...
Similar Products Used:
Trek 6000
Bike Setup:
added 636 pedals
Bottom Line:
ths bike is a very good bike for the money. Get the black frame it is less flashy euro trash..
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Submitted by
Rail
a Weekend Warrior
from Garner, NC Date Reviewed: August 7, 1999
great bike, almost what I wanted. Changed seat, tires, stem (shorter), put on downhill bars, bar ends. Next change will be crank, front derailleur, and shifters when old wears out. Love the ride - five hot salsa grips!
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Submitted by
SHARKMAN
a Weekend Warrior
from FORT LAUDERDALE Date Reviewed: July 15, 1999
Favorite Trail:
MARKHAM PARK
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
FRAME GEOMETRY
Weaknesses:
PEDALS
Similar Products Used:
GIANT YUKON
Bike Setup:
JUDY C
Bottom Line:
THIS BIKE REALLY MAKES UPHILL CLIMBING EASY. I STILL CAN'T GET USE TO BEING ABLE TO CLIMB STEEP UPHILLS WITH MY BUTT ON THE SEAT. THE FRAME GEOMETRY ROCKS! THE JUDY C HAS THE PERFECT AMOUNT OF TRAVEL. GOT THIS BIKE AT A 1999 CLOSEOUT SALE FOR $475.00, YOU CAN'T BEAT THAT.
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Submitted by
Billy Club
a Cross-Country Rider
from Green River, UT Date Reviewed: June 24, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Moab many
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Good Price Black Paint
Weaknesses:
Seat is to hard Needs better crank
Similar Products Used:
GT backwoods
Bike Setup:
STOCK with a Terry liberator seat
Bottom Line:
This Bike Is Verrry God Except for the seat and crank...
Overall Rating:
Submitted by
Steve
a Weekend Warrior
from Denver Date Reviewed: June 23, 1999
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
Frame Genesis Geometry Rock Shox Judy C
Weaknesses:
Some of the components (crank, pedals, shifters)
Similar Products Used:
Kona NuNu Trek 6500, 7000 Schwinn Moab 2
Bike Setup:
Stock + Bar ends
Bottom Line:
Do your research. Dont just take my word for it- go out there and try all the bikes out there. Talk to people and friends. Doing all of the above, I chose the G. Fisher KaiTai, being very confident and pleased with my choice. The frame has the same Genesis geometry as all the higher level Fishers (Procaliber, Joshua, Level Betty, etc) Why? Because it really does work. Its not totally extreme to mess up your ride balance, but the longer top tube and corresponding short stem helps. The short stem itself helps a lot in making the bike nimble and quick.Those of you who complain that Genesis is bad for really steep climbs-Learn how to climb! If the bike is fitted to you, and you have bar ends, you shouldn't have any problems. I ride in the Denver area and all Denver rides have big climbs in the begining-not a problem for my KaiTai. Its my own physical conditioning that limits my ride, not my bike.WTB Velociraptor tires have good traction, saddle is comfortable. Drivetrain is adequate, and brakes will stop you. Lots of room to upgrade, but its a good start for 7 C-notes. Pedals need to go up to clipless.I tried the Moab 2 (good components) and although tempting, the KaiTai's short stem really makes the whole package so much more nimble (but not necessarily less stable!). Kona NuNu was also tempting (nice Marzocchi fork), but in the end, I kept coming back to the KaiTai. Wasn't very impressed at all with the Treks. Bottom line, its an awesome frame with average components. For $699, its a bike you can grow with.
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Eric Hewitt
a Weekend Warrior
from Pullman, WA Date Reviewed: June 10, 1999
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Nice frame, good components.
Weaknesses:
No major issues.
Similar Products Used:
Trek 6500
Bike Setup:
Standard components, with addition of racing handlebars.
Bottom Line:
After riding both the Trek 6500 and the Kaitai, I had trouble deciding between the two. Both have similar components, frame, and shock. I ended up with the Kaitai because the bike shop was local, and had a good reputation. I have had very good luck so far. The Judy C is a must have, as the dampening makes for a very nice ride. As far as the 'Genesis' geometry, it does seem to help--though I wouldn't choose the bike just because of that. Overall, a very nice bike.
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Brian MacDonald
a Weekend Warrior
from Toronto, Ontario Date Reviewed: June 2, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Waterdown
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
As a taller rider, the Genesis Geometry worked well for me. Nice component selection for the price.
Weaknesses:
Some of the OEM choices are a bit thin (pedals, cranks, front deraillur) but overall it's a good platform to build on.
Upgraded to LX front derailleur and crank, TIME ATAC Alum pedals, WTB SSTX seat (original seat broke). Also looking at bar ends, stem and possibly brakes. Happy with the Judy C so far.
Bottom Line:
Very happy with the purchase. At the time the jump to the Fisher Big Sur seemed to be a bit much, in retrospect, it might have been the right thing to do. I have been very happy with the ride, both climbing, single track and downhill. The key for this bike was the fit. With each upgrade I have become happier with the overall performance.
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Jason Alarcon
a Weekend Warrior
from Durham, NC Date Reviewed: May 27, 1999
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
Value! genesis geometry looks
Weaknesses:
yet to find one!
Similar Products Used:
Kona NuNu
Bike Setup:
Rockshox Judy C
Bottom Line:
Replaced my heavy old GT Timberline with this light and nimble steed. Very impressed with genesis geometry that helps to distribute your weight to the rear wheel for a more comfortable riding position without being too far back to affect uphill riding. This geometry especially suits the larger sized rider. This is why I chose the kaitai over the Kona NuNu. The Judy's upfront do a good job at soaking up the bumps and i haven't bottomed out on them yet Nice all around package at fantastic price! ($630)
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Weexy
a Weekend Warrior
from Guelph, Ontario, Canada Date Reviewed: May 19, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Guelph Lake
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
Aluminum frame, Judy long travel fork, great balance - eats up the single track, good climber
Weaknesses:
Pedals and Grips suck (minor quibbles) Feels a bit nervous at high speed
Similar Products Used:
GT Backwoods GT Karakoram Fisher Aquila (Kaitai worth the extra $$) KHS Alite 1000 and 2000 Brodie Torque (ALMOST bought)
Bike Setup:
99 Stock - Shimano Deore - Judy C Long Travel fork - Bontrager corvair wheelset
Bottom Line:
Love it so far after 150 km's and 1 leg gouging wipe out - it's a sweet ride. Much quicker and more nimble than my old Schwinn Moab 2. I find the grips very slippery when sweaty though. Pedals will be upgraded to clipless. Black Bontrager rims look great with yellow frame - hopefully they will function as good as they look. Will add a follow up report later this summer after I pile up some mileage. I'll give it a solid 4.5 chilis!! (ah hell make it 5) Ride on!!!!!!!!!!!!
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IJVIPER
a Weekend Warrior
from MARYLAND Date Reviewed: May 9, 1999
Duration Product Used:
tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
GREAT FRAME SAME AS THE BIG SUR's FORKS PRICE PRICE PRICE
Weaknesses:
SOME COMPONENTS no clipless pedeals
Similar Products Used:
BIG SUR TREK 7000
Bike Setup:
stock
Bottom Line:
Great bike im defenitaly going to buy it. I have been resarching for about 2 months now and i am ready to buy. The genis geometry is great. It is almost useless to get a big sur they have the same frame and you can always add components later. I only wish it can with clipless pedeals. The bike i have know is a old old trek 850 which has fallen apart since i got which was only a year ago. THis is my FIRST real bike.I SUBMIT A FALLOW UP ON IT LATER AFTER I'VE HAD IT A WHILE
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Matthew Nielson
a Cross-Country Rider
from Mount Sterling, KY Date Reviewed: May 6, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Cave Run Lake Trail
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
Great handling on the flat trail. Climbs well too. Great fork for price.
Weaknesses:
Not really a downhill bike.
Similar Products Used:
No other products.
Bike Setup:
Judy C (standard) 1999 model
Bottom Line:
I recommend this bike for the budget-minded intermediate rider, which I am. The componets (front der. etc.) are easilbly upgraded and the fork is sweet for the price tag. Got it on sale for $700.00. Great bike. Recommended highly
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david
a Cross-Country Rider
from new york Date Reviewed: April 12, 1999
Duration Product Used:
tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
good ride for price, nice components
Weaknesses:
rides like a (GREAT) entry level mtn. bike. not aggressive enough to grow into.
Similar Products Used:
gt karakoram, stumpjumper comp & pro, fischer kai tai & big sur, trek 8000
Bike Setup:
stock '99
Bottom Line:
this bike is basically only an entry level ride. i couldn't feel the genesis geometry in this bike at all (i could in the big sur). it rides very upright: making it relatively good for climbing and medium downhill, but overall; NOT a bike i'd think to buy. :)
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Mauricio Arze
a Weekend Warrior
from Miami, FL Date Reviewed: April 2, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Don't know yet
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
This bike has a great frame and the Genesys Geometry theory really does make a big difference in responsiveness and it also makes going down hills a bit eisier because your center of gravity is lower.
Weaknesses:
The components are definitely entry level. The Rock/Shock is OK, but it is near the bottom of it's class. The Shimano components are also towards the lower end. The brakes are effective (unless you are going downhill in the rain), but brandless.
Bike Setup:
Default components
Bottom Line:
This is by no means a poor performer even with factory components. I just started riding mountain bikes three months ago and I have learned a few things since I started, although I chose to change out the shifters, cartridge, rear derailer, and brakes to Shimano XT I still feel that most riders will be perfectly satisfied with this bike without upgrading it. However, if you are like me (never satisfied with what you have), even as a novice you will find yourself upgrading if you ride any other bike that has superior components. If that is the case, you might do better to start out with the Fisher Big Sur which uses the same frame as the Kaitai but features better components. Overall, I really like my Bike and I am planning to keep it for a long time.
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Joe
a Racer
from Caratunk Date Reviewed: March 29, 1999
Favorite Trail:
none
Duration Product Used:
less than 1 month
Strengths:
This bike is the bomb all the componets rock but the alivio
Weaknesses:
Alivio
Bike Setup:
same a origanal
Bottom Line:
This bike is the Fuc*!n& bomb
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Flying V
a Weekend Warrior
from Hicksville, USA Date Reviewed: March 18, 1999
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Nice fork, very responsive, nice price, beautiful bike.
Weaknesses:
some alivio parts.
Similar Products Used:
Marin Bear Valley SE
Bike Setup:
Rockshox Judy C, LX/Alivio, all aluminum genesis
Bottom Line:
One kick-*** bike. Handles great, nice fork action, good deal for the money. Fisher delivers again.
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mike fulton
a cross-country rider
from winston salem nc USA Date Reviewed: March 6, 1999
Bottom Line:
I've had my Kaitai for about a month and a half and it #$*% rocks! I paid $699.00 for my bike, great dealer who was very professional and helpful (PACELINE BIKES NC). Ditch the toe clip pedals for clippless and your there. WARNING : Do Not Overtightened your water bottle mounting bolts.....they will STRIP-OUT! Any more questions a great site to check out is Gary Fisher Bikes .com. MIke
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John Humphreys
a weekend warrior
from Amish Town PA Date Reviewed: February 20, 1999
Bottom Line:
I've had my Kaitai for five months. It handles great, shock is plush but the alivio sucks. I upgraded my pedals to Specialized clipless pedals. A great improvement. The weight is decent but changing the WTB tires is a royal pain in the ass. I ride it two or three times a month and it needs minimal repairs. Grease your pedal threads. Gary makes a great bike.a
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Submitted by
one tooth farmer
a weekend warrior
from Guelph,Ontaro,Canada Date Reviewed: January 23, 1999
Bottom Line:
I've had my Kaitai for about 6 months.I've ridin it every where and anywhere I can.In some of the worse riding conditions i can think of.And she's always got me were and how I wanted.Had a good snowstorm up here mad snow everywere traction and handling is Kickin'.have to agree with the other reviews the KAITAI is the farmer's bragging right I LOVE MY KAITAI. A defint five Red Hot assburnin Chilipeppers
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Submitted by
de
a cross-country rider
from QUEBEC !!!! Date Reviewed: January 7, 1999
Bottom Line:
I want to buy a Kaitai but i want your opinion on this choice. Let me know if is a good bike (i think is a very good) and other specifications or particular things like the WEIGHT !!
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J. Daeger
a weekend warrior
from the dregs of the earth Date Reviewed: December 17, 1998
Bottom Line:
yo, yo, yo! Dis bike be spamtastic! Chillin yellow and great fork action, corners like nobody's business, primo traction. Springs like a cat, not the one off your mama, this so great ride flutters my heart with drama. Alivio derailleur from the depths dey dug dat crap, must've jus woke from looong winter's nap. Kaitai kiks it, tears up the sod, ode to the Fish man, I give him da nod!
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Kevin
a weekend warrior
from Gaithersburg Date Reviewed: November 7, 1998
Bottom Line:
I bought the bike about two months ago for $699. I have since upgraded the pedals to Shimano XTS clipless. It is a tremendous improvement over my previous bike and what you might call my first real bike. It is awesome! I love it! The Judy shock has a real smooth return and the aluminum frame is light. I reccommend this bike highly!!
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