Submitted by
rogerzilla
a Racer
from UK Date Reviewed: November 8, 2009
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$2.00
Purchased At:
SJS Cycles
Strengths:
A bit lighter than the usual 2.0/1.8/2.0 DT Competition spokes. Consistent length and high quality. Make a slightly different-looking wheel. No problems with reliability.
Weaknesses:
Massive twist due to the thin middle section makes them slow to build with. Becoming ridiculously expensive.
Similar Products Used:
DT Competition, Sapim Race
Bike Setup:
Mostly road riding, a lot of fixed gear stuff.
Bottom Line:
Cost-benefit isn't really there. If you have the patience and want the utlimate hand-built wheel though, they're there.
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Submitted by
Schmurtz
a Weekend Warrior
from Srbija Date Reviewed: March 24, 2009
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$85.00
Strengths:
-light
-stong
Weaknesses:
-they twist quite a lot during the building proces
Similar Products Used:
dt alpine, dt competition
Bike Setup:
simplon gizzmo, rs revelation426, juicy five 203/185 american classic's, mavic's xm317disc, alloy nipples
Bottom Line:
my wheels are 3cross laced with 32 spokes per wheel
im' a 186lbs jump monkey, frequently bottoming out rev426u-turn/air at 150psi, frequently going down rocky contry roads 30-35mph, i'm braking hard climbing hard, you get the picture... and these things are are doing great, so far! my friend laced up these wheels two weeks ago and since then they've been trough about 80 miles of pure up and downhill abuse, and stayed dead centered, never retrued. these wheels are no flexier than my previous wheelset (32pw 3cross dt competitions). i just hope revolutions are as durable as competitions...
PROPPER and, more important, EQUAL TENSION is the key with these spokes. get a skilled wheelbuilder to do the job and and you're ready for some serious trailhunting!
i wanted to give them four chilis because they haven't passed endurance test yet, but, . . .
there's this purple-black box and eight spare spare spokes in it, begging me to give them five,...
i just cracked under pressure...
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Submitted by
JoeFish357
a Cross Country Rider
from Kirkbymoorside, Yorkshire, England Date Reviewed: February 17, 2009
Favorite Trail:
Black Hambleton Circuit
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1.00
Purchased At:
Price per spoke, Ful
Strengths:
These babies are light and stand up to masses of abuse :)
Weaknesses:
Price is the only issue with these babies, and they are a bit more difficult to build with... If you're scrimping a few quid on the most important component in your wheel you're a divvie.
Similar Products Used:
DT butted, DT straight guage, No name spokes in factory wheels
Bike Setup:
Varies from road bikes to CX, ridden on tough, rocky trails (ouch!) to hardtail trail bike.
Bottom Line:
Firstly, these are NOT strong. They are RESILIENT.
They've been designed to resist the particular stresses found in bike wheels. Because they are thinner, well-made and well-designed, they avoid the severe shock loadings that shear lesser spokes. I use them because they are light and have never had a problem. The 230lb gorilla that owns my LBS uses them on his downhill bike (!!) because every other spoke used snaps and these don't. They're not the stiffest but they just come back for more and more and more and......
You're mad if you're not after an aero blade spoke and you don't use these in your wheels! 10 chilies, no hesitation.
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Submitted by
The Psycho
a Racer
from Barcelona, Spain Date Reviewed: August 10, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Vallnord CCI / WCup circuit
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$70.00
Purchased At:
starbike.com
Strengths:
Thin but strong, stiffness, price.
Weaknesses:
Durability.
Similar Products Used:
Competition, champion
Bike Setup:
Giant Composite. With several XTR components.
Bottom Line:
After 1-2 year of intensive use, this spokes comes to softer. Great spokes for a 1,10 eur/unit.
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Submitted by
mtbnachos
a Cross Country Rider
from San Diego Date Reviewed: June 27, 2008
Favorite Trail:
Noble Canyon, CA
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$1.00
Purchased At:
eBay
Strengths:
Strong, weight
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
DT Competition
Bike Setup:
Flows w/ LX hubs
Bottom Line:
Crazy Guy's remark is so ironic. It's funny he found the time to post a remark about these spokes while making fun of people who comment on them. Anyways these are great spokes so buy them already! Crazy Guy, go ride an ATV and go away.
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Submitted by
Yocal420
a Cross Country Rider
from NorCal Date Reviewed: September 23, 2007
Favorite Trail:
TRT
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Strengths:
Outstanding product, cheap, easy way to drop weight.
Weaknesses:
none
Similar Products Used:
DT and wheelsmith
Bottom Line:
What is up with the idiot from Missouri? Probably has a rusty chain 'cause he hasn't taken his bike in for its yearly tune up. This is a great way to upgrade a wheelset. I regularly would break 15g spokes then built up a set with the the 14/17g and have put over 5000 miles on them without breaking 1. Saving a couple hundred grams of rotational weight is equivalent to taking pounds off your bike or your gut. It's easily worth the extra $10-20 over conventional spokes if building a new wheelset. These are the way to go for xc and trailriders.
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Submitted by
Andro Galero
a Weekend Warrior
from Butuan City, Philippines Date Reviewed: February 22, 2005
Favorite Trail:
Malalag Trail
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$72.00
Strengths:
-lighter than my generic stainless steel spokes
Weaknesses:
-none
Similar Products Used:
generic stainless steel spokes
Bike Setup:
Tank Lights hubs, Mavic X517 rims, Specialized Roll-X Pro 2.0 tires and Continental Supersonic tubes.
Bottom Line:
I weigh 145 lbs. and ride 8-12 hours a week on cross country trails around my home. I has these installed by a competent wheel builder from mu LBS and i never had to true them since. They are lighter by 252 grams than my previous spokes and brass nipples. If you want to make your bike lighter and faster, start with lighter tires, tubes, rims and DT Revolution spokes.
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Submitted by
Karl
a
from UK Date Reviewed: January 18, 2005
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Strengths:
Light weight.
Bottom Line:
Great spokes. These were chosen to build a real light wheel, expecting it to last 1 season of racing, but 2 years down the line they're still going strong. However, I only do XC and weigh 160lb which is presumably what these were designed for.
Built the wheel (mavic 517 to Hugi 240s) and added copper grease to the alloy nipples (incl. rear drive side at 1 cross). I think these spokes are prone to twisting however, and if the twist is not taken out, this could weaken the spoke in the long run. So 2 tips for taken out twist: 1. For every spoke I applied a quick 1/4 turn unwind to take out any twisting during tightening. 2. Applied copper grease to both spoke thread and nipple seat that contacts rim (so reducing friction to eradicate twisting... which might also lead to increased loosening but hasn't happened in this case providing they're under quite some tension).
After the next two trips I trued them a bit more, and had absolutely no problem since then (and the alloy nipps haven't siezed to the rim either). Great spokes, just build with a little care.
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Submitted by
axel
a
from yakima Date Reviewed: June 25, 2003
Favorite Trail:
skyline
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1.00
Purchased At:
sagebrushcycles
Strengths:
hold wheel tension,dont snap at ends like straight guage
Weaknesses:
expensive
Similar Products Used:
all others made by dt
Bike Setup:
several bikes
Bottom Line:
I have used them on an XT disk and rhino lite wheel set and this wheel has been from my crosscountry bike to my dirt jumper to my 200lbs friend dirt jumper to several other cross country bikes and the spokes still hold thieer tension and the wheel still is very true. dont know if its beacause my wheelbuilder rulles or if it is this spokes and components but it must be a combination and that these spokes just plain rule.
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Submitted by
Matt
a Cross Country Rider
from Berkeley, CA Date Reviewed: June 22, 2003
Best spokes ever for rim-brake wheels. I had mine built by the guys who own www.wrenchscience.com and I couldn't be happier. I do straight-up cross-country riding, range from 185 in the summer to 210 in the winter, and have yet to have a problem after 3+ years. Highly recommended, providing you get a good wheelbuilder. Mine were tied and soldered for extra strength with minimal weight gain.
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Submitted by
Crazy Guy
a
from Missouri Date Reviewed: June 22, 2003
Duration Product Used:
Tested or demo'ed only
Strengths:
I can't believe you guys are writing and reading reviews about spokes. Spokes!! Are you dumb? Would you write reviews for air or sunlight? Geez!
Bottom Line:
The bottom line is that you all have too much money and time and not enough sense to use them correctly. Get a life.
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Submitted by
Robert
a Cross Country Rider
from chattanooga, TN Date Reviewed: January 22, 2003
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$1.00
Purchased At:
East Ridge Bicycles
Strengths:
Strong and light weight.
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
Everything.
Bike Setup:
Titus Riddler, King ISO hubs, 317 rims
Bottom Line:
i am writing this review in response to some other reviews I read about thes spoke. First, I am a bike mechanic and have built dozens of wheels with these spoke. My last set of wheels that I built for myself had 4000 miles on them. i only had to true them once. I think that the peple who have had problems with these spokes have had wheels that were built improperly. It is very important to do this right. If you don't build these right, they will not not stay true. The key with the Revolutions is spoke tension. The wheels need to have the same tension all around. They also need to be run at very high tension. This is what makes them strong. I have built wheels for guys that are 280 lbs, and they have never broken a spoke. Most of these guys never have to have them trued. These spokes are actually stronger that a straight 14 guage, which says alot since they are nearly half the weight. If you have wheels built with thes spokes by someone who knows how to properly build wheels, you will have no problems.
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Submitted by
Rik
a Cross Country Rider
from Washington Date Reviewed: December 11, 2001
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$1.00
Purchased At:
Cambria Bicycle Oufitters (Biggest B@STARDS on the Net!!!!)
Strengths:
Very light, cuts down on crucial wheel weight, strong, sexy looking.
Weaknesses:
Might not be suited for heavy riders (over 180 lbs.), lateral flex can be an issue.
Similar Products Used:
DT Competition
Bike Setup:
KHS Pro STEEL Full Suspension, z2 xfly, velocity rims (best around, mate), full xt-xtr
Bottom Line:
These spokes rock, a little hard to build up (find a good wheel builder if you aren't experienced), but worth every penny. Just as strong, gram for gram as Competitions. Ok, here's the beef... Never, ever, buy anything from Cambria Bike. These guys have the worst customer service people I've ever dealt with, and yes, I've called Rock Shox before. These guys sent ran out of the Rev's in the length I wanted, so they sent Competitions instead, at the same price, and told me after they shipped already. I got the package, they didn't even include all of the rev's they were supposed to in the right length! So I have 16 of the wrong spokes for the rear and not enough for the front. So I called to complain, no problem they said, they'll ship them out tomorrow, no charge. 3 weeks later. No spokes. I call back, "oh, they're on back order, you should have caleed to find out sooner, it'll be another 3 weeks, send us back the wrong ones at your expense, ok?" I flipped out, talked the MANAGER, who was a prick, and still had to wait almost a week. I could have flown to switzerland and gone to the factory myslef for less hassle than these people gave me. They gave no apologies, offered no refunds, and I probably spent closev to 3 hours on the phone with these idiots for 64 tiny strands of steel. Do yourself a favor, boycott these b@stards. I'm out.
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Submitted by
Jeremy
a Racer
from Ohio Date Reviewed: May 26, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Ceasar Creek State Park
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Purchased At:
came with bike
Strengths:
Light, strong, everything a racer wants in a spoke
Weaknesses:
a bit flexy under hard cornering
Similar Products Used:
average Joe steel 15g spokes w/ Mavic 238, Mavic 517 w/ DT spokes
Bike Setup:
Homegrown, Sun SubIV, XTR hubset
Bottom Line:
When I had my new wheels built for this season the first thing on my priority list was these spokes. Light and strong. Plenty of spoke for a 140lb racer. I'd never build a weelset without them (for rim brakes). Probably not the best choice for a disk wheel.
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Submitted by
Jim
a Cross Country Rider
from Fremont Date Reviewed: February 24, 2001
Favorite Trail:
Toads
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$60.00
Purchased At:
Movin On Cyclery
Strengths:
Very light and very strong in 14/17 gage .
Weaknesses:
None .
Similar Products Used:
Wheelsmith and Ritchy
Bike Setup:
01 Ellsworth Truth - loaded .
Bottom Line:
I have been using these spokes on all my bikes for the past 3 years without a single problem . I radial lace fronts and 3x rears for exellent strength to weight ratio . I use the 14/17 gage with 32 hole Mavic 517s and spline drive nipples laced to King hubs for the ultimate cross country rims . If you been breaking other brands try these but would not use for downhill racing .
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Submitted by
Patrik Westerlund
a Cross Country Rider
from Stockholm, Sweden Date Reviewed: October 6, 2000
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1.00
Purchased At:
Cykel City
Strengths:
Light, well done
Weaknesses:
Too soft, more trueing, puts strress on the rim
Similar Products Used:
Wheelsmith 1,8/1,5, DT 2,0, DT 2,0/1,8
Bike Setup:
Access Ti frame, XTR drivetrain, RS SID sl -99, Hope+Mavic
Bottom Line:
They are ok, but I will continue to build on DT 2,0/1,8 because they are superior in my use. These spokes are too soft. It takes much longer to build wheels, the stress on my rims (eyelets) cause problems, I have to true the wheels much more often than desired. Sure, they are light, but I can survive with 750/900 g weight with my 2,0/1,8.
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Submitted by
Luke
a Cross Country Rider
from Knoxcille,TN,USA Date Reviewed: September 19, 2000
Favorite Trail:
lock4
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$25.00
Purchased At:
QBP
Strengths:
Super lightweight, makes a WONDERFUL wheel.
Weaknesses:
SUPER hard to build right when compared to other spokes. Pricey.
Similar Products Used:
Wheelsmith DB and All sorths of DTs
Bike Setup:
Jamis Dragon
Bottom Line:
These spokes make for a wheel with practically magical qualities. Superlightweight and absolute bombproof durability. The catch is that they have to be laced up right by a good wheelbuilder, and they have to be pampered during the building process. SLOWLY bring the spokes to tension, pre stress, spoke prep, seat the niples...the works. But all of it pays off in the end. I used a chris king hub, CR-17 rim , and 3x revolutions on a TANDEM and it held up great, even though its light enough to race with. Reccomend them to EVERYONE who has access to a good wheelbuilder, crappy builders don't even desrve to touch these things.
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Submitted by
Rome Felicano
a Cross Country Rider
from Diego Garcia, B.I.O.T. Date Reviewed: August 28, 2000
Favorite Trail:
all of the trails here
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$40.00
Purchased At:
Cambria Bicycle Outfitters
Strengths:
LIGHT weight
Weaknesses:
Expensive. .20/ea more than the "double-butted" Spoke wind-up when trueing the wheels.
Similar Products Used:
DT Swiss 14 gauge/ double butted 14/15 ga double butted 15/16 ga
Bike Setup:
Y2K Access Ti-XTR/SRAM all the good stuff GT CNC red front hub/XTR rear hub with 15/17 DT Revolutions laced radial front/ half 3X/half radial rear/ Mavic 217's and spline-drive niples in red.
Bottom Line:
Even though I am a heavy rider, I have no problems riding this wheelset. I built them from scratch, and they stay pretty true. I think that I would have done just as well with the 15/16 spokes and saved a little cash while I was at it. I am satisfied though.
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Submitted by
Dave Strain
a Weekend Warrior
from Richmond In Date Reviewed: August 20, 2000
Favorite Trail:
all
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Strengths:
light wieght
Weaknesses:
the drive side pull spokes started breaking at the begining of the outside butt this year.
Similar Products Used:
DT 14/15, DT 14
Bike Setup:
yes
Bottom Line:
had to true them a lot. I used a spoke tension meter. they break where no self respecting spoke should. Oh, they are light.
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Submitted by
m sylvan
a Cross Country Rider
from seattle Date Reviewed: August 17, 2000
Favorite Trail:
top secret
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$1000000.00
Purchased At:
local dealer
Strengths:
weight
Weaknesses:
strength
Similar Products Used:
never paid attention before...
Bike Setup:
strong racing frame, mix of shimano and race face parts, bontrager mustang ceramic rims.
Bottom Line:
these spokes are very weak. i know my rims to be strong, but these spokes can't keep them in line. this is the first time since i have been riding (1987) that i have to constantly true my wheels.
unless you can true your wheels yourself, add a little weight and use a stronger spoke.
i'm sure dt is a fine company, but these spokes are not good for anybody who rides regularly, and needs a strong and reliable spoke. i think they are more of a racing spoke.
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Submitted by
John B
a Weekend Warrior
from Urbana, Illinois Date Reviewed: December 6, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Always looking
Duration Product Used:
more than 3 years
Strengths:
Almost as light as ti without the cost or breakage.
Weaknesses:
???????????
Similar Products Used:
DT 14 straight and DT 14-15 Double butts and 15-15 double butts.
Bike Setup:
Dean Oscar with an Atom Bomb.
Bottom Line:
It's my favorite. For what I put them thru an occasional truing is a small price to pay. I've never broke one or have known anyone to break one. I'm not a flywight either, 175 lbs. I have been slaming into logs trees and evrything else and these spokes keep doing what they are supposed to do.
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Submitted by
Kurt
a Weekend Warrior
from SLC, Utah Date Reviewed: December 5, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Mueller Park
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Weight! Looks(BLACK) Strenght-to-weight Ratio
Weaknesses:
Cost Need a Skilled Builder Poss. Length Problems (they stretch quite a bit)
Similar Products Used:
Worked in shops for years; I've tried most everything
At 200 lbs a radial ft, 3x drive/rdl nd wheelset doesn't exactly follow most peoples advice. These spokes have been bomber in spite of a number of hits that have made me cringe. They're actually stronger than 14/15's because the Revolution butting process provides better grain alignment(that's good). You DO have to run very high spoke tension and Spline Drive nipples help greatly with this. If you bring up tension slowly and evenly, wind-up shouldn't be a problem. Depending on the rim, pull-through might be a problem. I'm running Velocity Aeroheats(WAY underrated) and this is not a problem even though they're not eyletted. Get yourself a very good builder, a suitable rim, and enjoy. I'd give them five peppers, but they aren't for hack wheel builders(there's a LOT of 'em)so only four.
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Submitted by
gary
a Racer
from socal Date Reviewed: November 5, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Strengths:
light
Weaknesses:
weak like wet spaghetti
Similar Products Used:
dt competition 14/15
Bike Setup:
22lb ht racer
Bottom Line:
i'm ditching these flimsy spaghetti needles and going back to reliable and strong 14/15 competition's. i have had bad luck with these spokes, i weigh 160 and race xc but these are way too flexy for me, they come out of true way too often compared with my 14/15 set. and if you hear about rims getting cracks at the eyelets it is because of these spokes, the high tension required in setting up these spokes often leads to cracking in the eyelets, its not the rim's fault, its this spoke. two for lightness, note that these skokes (64 of them) are 100 grams lighter than 14/15 competition spokes, so if you want a strong ride, look to the 14/15's.
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Submitted by
hugh
a Cross-Country Rider
from albuquerque Date Reviewed: June 7, 1999
Excellent lightweight reliable spoke if you're not in the hippo class. These spokes will assist you in building lightweight quality wheels. However, these spokes do require appropriate thread prep, meticulous attention to equa, balancedl and truly measured (tensionometer) wheel tensioning, and appropriate unwinding to build a successful wheel. Don't blame spokes forusing these spokes for the wrong application or to lousy attention to the details of wheelbuilding.
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Submitted by
Porkchop
a Racer
from Littleton, CO Date Reviewed: May 14, 1999
Favorite Trail:
I-70
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Strengths:
Light
Weaknesses:
Fragile
Similar Products Used:
14 g DT 15g DT 14/15g butted DT 15/16g butted DT
Bike Setup:
White Industry road rear hub, Reflex clincher rim, 32 hole, alloy nipple
Bottom Line:
See below for description of build process. I rode the Revolution wheels on rough roads a few times, but light mileage overall. Less than 1000 miles total. At Gila I broke a non-drive side spoke at the elbow. The wheel stayed true to that point. The biggest stresses on the wheel that day were probably cattle guards- I didn't hit any holes. I'm not even sure when it broke, but I'm betting it was close to or during the final sprint or I would have noticed! Maybe I'm just too fat for these spokes (168 lbs)!
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Submitted by
Bruce
a Weekend Warrior
from Ferndale,CA Date Reviewed: April 12, 1999
Favorite Trail:
Prarie Lookout, Redwood Park
Duration Product Used:
more than 3 years
Strengths:
Light weight, reasonably priced.
Weaknesses:
Broke spoke elbow on non drive side, outside bend spoke.
Similar Products Used:
DT 14/15/14, Wheelsmith 14/16/14 gauge
Bike Setup:
Road, Ultegra 9-spd, Mavic Reflex, 32 spoke.
Bottom Line:
I used a 15/18/15 gauge revolution wheel for about 3 years on relatively smooth roads. On bumpy roads I broke a non drive side spoke at the elbow. Also when repairing the wheel and retensioning the spokes, I actually stretched the drive side spokes so far that they weakened and would not tensioned anymore (I also ran out of threads) I always thought that you would strip an alloy nipple before you exceeded the yield strength of any stainless steel spoke. These spokes are on the extreme edge of tension and yield failure. I have had super success on my cross country mountain bike, with no rear suspension with the same spoke, except they are about a 30mm shorter, and don't get slammed by square edged pot holes with 120 psi tires. Also when this spoke broke the rim was not flat spotted and the tire did not pinch flat.
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Submitted by
Neil Mouneimne
a weekend warrior
from Pasadena, CA Date Reviewed: February 22, 1999
Bottom Line:
This is my second review of the DT Revolution spokes. I just built up a new wheelset for a friend yesterday using DT Revolution 2.0/1.5 spokes on the rear wheel and Ritchey Logic 1.8/1.5 on the front. The Ritchey spokes are made by DT, so I presume that they're merely rebadged Revolutions. A couple things I noted. The large difference in diameter on the 2.0/1.5 spokes makes the spokes near the hub want to stick out. Using a screwdriver handle, I flattened them all out with some effort. The Ritchey spokes didn't have that problem however. Presumably because when they flex, they flex uniformly rather than at the butting point. Finally, on these wheels I encountered no wind-up problems at all for a change. I'm not sure why it was so easy this time, but perhaps it had something to do with the fact that I gradually tensioned all the spokes gradually over the course of many passes. Anyhow, I was very pleased with the results.
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Submitted by
Porkchop
a racer
from Littleton Date Reviewed: February 18, 1999
Bottom Line:
I just finished building up a road wheelset with DT Revolutions. 2x rear, radial front 32 spokes each. I used White Industries hubs from Colo Cyclist's VeloSwap junk bin. Anyone wanna guess how long before my radial lacing rips the flanges off my front hub? :-) I don't think it's a forged shell...The spokes are beauties, but they really do wind up in building. I overspun and backlashed my fingers off, so I hope they don't have any or much twist left in them. I've built some quite good and some quite crappy wheels, and I have found that residual twist = CRAP CRAP CRAP. I didn't hear any ping ping ping during my initial rides, which often is the sound of the spokes getting rid of that twist. And the wheels are still round and true. According to a local build guru (local racing shop owner), DT's don't really require lubrication of threads due to the fact that they are shipped lubed in bulk. If you are using spokeprep, in fact, you need to clean the threads with solvent. Guru suggested building as is then loctite. And Dave, what are you talking about about with this people don't understand that these spokes are SINGLE butted only at the elbow? You should actually try the product before you review it!! You know why people don't understand? Because ...these are like, SO DOUBLE BUTTED! WAY DOUBLE BUTTED! They're 2.0mm/1.5mm/2.0mm. Just think, if they weren't, they'd require a 17 gauge nipple. I don't think they even make such a thing. (I kept looking at the spokes trying to determine if I was imagining the very definite bulge going into to the thread area...) And yeah, my $160 wheels are lighter than $600 french merde! Oops, I take it back, those guys do make fine hoops.
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Submitted by
Guido Kerssens
a cross-country rider
from the Netherlands Date Reviewed: February 10, 1999
Bottom Line:
DT- spokes are the best I ever used and they have great service. I've used my first set Of Revolution spoked wheels without much having to true them and they came down a few mountains.....Now the Revolutions are available in BLACK and believe me I haven't riden them yet, but they sure look great Chris (2 reviews below)!As for the service I don't want to get in details, but they sure like their customers. Thanks Mr.Keller!
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Submitted by
SS
a
from Norway Date Reviewed: January 26, 1999
Bottom Line:
I re-built the stock wheels on my Proflex more than 2 years ago, using DT rev. spokes (2-cross on Hope/XTR hubs & Mavic rims). After several thousand km's of riding the wheels are still true, without having to tighten/ adjust ONCE ! If you are looking for durability & weight savings, you can't go wrong with these !
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Submitted by
Chris
a cross-country rider
from UK Date Reviewed: January 21, 1999
Bottom Line:
I won't use anything else, having used rev's. Nothing else touches them for price, weight and strength. But come on DT - do them in black ! Rev's are No. 1.
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Submitted by
kelvin
a racer
from England Date Reviewed: January 7, 1999
Bottom Line:
Brought a wheel set and specified the revolutions without really knowing what they were like compared to normal ACI double spokes. Well they look very sexy, beautiful butting on the spoke, but my rear wheel was giving me hell, the hubs were Ultegra, and the rims are the Mavic open pros. After about 3 rides the rear was very out of true, checking the tension of the wheel found that the entire tension was far too loose and one spoke was totally loose ! 30 minutes of truing got it straight, and then I wound in a bit more tension so the spokes go ping instead of pong when plucked. Since then I've had to true them something like 4 times - they seem to always go out of true !!! I think the crappy roads of Ireland don't help but I'm not exactly heavy at 67kgs, and I do avoid a lot of the really big holes. In closing I wish I'd went for something heavier, the wheels are light, but the amount of trueing does my head in, so four for the quality, but minus 1 for the head ache of truing. Even though I probably won't use the wheel builder who produced these again.
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Submitted by
Nick Payne
a racer
from Australia Date Reviewed: January 4, 1999
Bottom Line:
Now have a full season of road racing on these - Dura-ace hubs, Mavic Open Pro rims, and Al nipples. No broken spokes and the wheels have remained dead true. The only downside is when building the wheel - the spokes being so skinny that they tend to wind up as you turn the nipple.
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Jon
a racer
from Tampa, FL Date Reviewed: December 17, 1998
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I use these spokes on my road and mountain bike with 400 gram rims and use both three cross and raddial patterns. I built the wheels (I'm not a master, but I do a decent job) and they stay true with minimal maitainance. I have snapped two rear spokes on each bike at the elbow, they have given me no other problems. I'm 165lbs and race sport. The benfits in lowering rotating mass (at a nominal cost) are soooo worth it. Phuck Ti
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G
a cross-country rider
from Date Reviewed: October 27, 1998
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I have these on my 217/Nukeproof wheelset, relitivly strong, very light, and quite affordible. A good all around spoke, probobly the best for the money.5 flaming dead horses across the board.
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Dave
a cross-country rider
from Ontario, Canada Date Reviewed: October 26, 1998
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Well I just want to say that after reading these reviews I am a little disappointed, not as to the quality of the product but as to the quality of the reviews. DT Revolution spokes are a single butted, very thin version of the standard issue double butted DT spoke. It seems that most do not realize just what exactly the Revs are. As for the product, it is excellent. I personally do not have them but a friend with an XTR/517, 2-cross Revs combo is very happy with his setup. Revs are thick only where they need to be, at the hub where the most stress on a spoke is. The thing to remember is that any wheel is only as good as its builder's skill, so find a LBS with honest and EXPERIENCED staff. Oh, and a little tip for all: spread a little MTB grease on the area of the spokes where they will cross for a crossed setup. This will stop creaking/noises and reduce wear caused by friction between spokes of flexing wheels.
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Toby
a cross-country rider
from Lawrence, KS Date Reviewed: October 14, 1998
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I used these spokes on a front wheel I built in conjunction with a nukeproof hub and a 517 rim. I am 6'3 and about 180 pounds. I ride frequently and aggressively, and although I work at a bike shop am fairly bad about maintiaining my own bike. Over the years and miles, I have destroyed a few wheels and made due with some that were on the edge. I have ridden this wheel for several months now and many miles. This wheel has exceeded all my expectations. I have checked the true, dish and round often. I have yet to adjust this wheel in any way despite my riding nature. This is somewhat more impressive when you consider that this wheel is radial laced, which is not the strongest lacing pattern out there. In my experience these spokes are strong, lightweight, and reasonably priced. Spokes really don't get much attention when it comes to cosmetics, but the nice taper of these spokes made me say OOOOOH involuntarily when I drew the first graceful aluminum strand from the pink box.Copiousalacious strentgh, Minimalizostic weight, AffordibalosityThank you for your time
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Burrito Bob
a cross-country rider
from Belford, NJ Date Reviewed: October 10, 1998
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Built up a front, XT/217's, 3x with these babies, and so far so good. At close to Clydesdale weight (195) I'm pleased. They built well, and have held their true for > 1000 miles. The wind-up wasn't nearly as bad as many have reported.The next project will be another front, radial-laced. We'll see how they compare. I'm also toying with building a rear.../Bob
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Sean Moss
a weekend warrior
from Santa Rosa Calif Date Reviewed: October 8, 1998
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Well first I must say I have broke many spokes in the past... and DT are by far the best spoke I have ever used...but do your home work like I did and find out that ...When a 14 guage spoke is made from a wire it is first cut head stamped and then threaded...thats great and strong...BUT a 14\15 butted spoke is made with 14 guage wire and then pressed or rolled smaller to size 14/15 butted giving the spoke pre tensioned strength and overall radial strength... much better. so go ahead and use a 14/15 spoke it sounds weird but physics dont lie...
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Mike
a weekend warrior
from NJ Date Reviewed: April 23, 1998
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These spokes rock they have held up to all 185 pounds of my weight pounding them. They have great power transfer when sprinting. Unlike the trek specials that came with my bike these ahve the most streighnt of any of the spokes thaty I have riden. These spoke rock the house
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Jeff Dell
a racer
from Tempe, AZ Date Reviewed: April 10, 1998
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These spokes are nice. I have had them for about 4 months and have had no problems with them. They are really light and very strong. The way they are butted at the ends is really cool. They are fat on the ends where the most strength is needed and thin in the middle. What else can I say.... you want the best, get these!
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Steve
a cross-country rider
from California Date Reviewed: December 13, 1997
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These spokes saved a lot of weight, I built up a front wheel that weighed 1lb 5 oz. BUT these spokes will NOT maintain their tensionsion on a radially laced wheel. I had to keep retensioning truing them after 3-4 rides. The wheel it replaced was laced with standard double butted spokes in a radial pattern and it stayed true like a 3-cross.
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Phil...
a
from cross-country rider Date Reviewed: November 15, 1997
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Man, the steel they use in these spokes is great stuff! WoW! Anyway, I have just finished building up my fourth wheel using DT spokes. The SWISS know their alloys. I have some cheepo wheels that came stock on my cheepo bike (ride it in cities, no one will bother to cut the lock to steal this bike!) The Japanese spoke got brittle after a while, and when I was trueing the rear wheel (before I got the hang of curb hopping), I broke several... I have never had that happen with DT! Great stuff...of course everything wears out eventually... So I expect to break one eventually... Good product, 5 point rating.
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Stephano
a downhiller
from Thunder Bay Ontario Canada Date Reviewed: October 2, 1997
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These spokes came stock on my STS. Barely sucked chain behing cassette and had to replace all drive side spokes. I beleive they are good spokes if you use an ugly cog plastick thingner. Too fragile for me, switching to 121 rim and 14 straight gauge spokes
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Neil
a weekend warrior
from Pasadena, CA Date Reviewed: September 11, 1997
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My stock wheels were way too heavy, so I rebuilt them with XTR and DT Revolution 2.0/1.5 spokes. These are 15/17/15 ga - very thin. Despite this, they handled all the stuff a 220 lb rider like me could dish out without breaking a single spoke. Only complaint is that the spokes are so thin that they tend to twist when you try to tighten the spoke nipples, making it harder to adjust. But the fact that they have handled so much weight is astounding.
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Knoly
a weekend warrior
from Vancouver, BC Date Reviewed: August 10, 1997
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DT spokes rule my world. Why bother with anything else? I'm a heavy 6'2 guy who clocks well over 10K Kms/year, and I have never broken one. Of course I'm a 14 guage type of guy:)
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Simon Fidely
a cross-country rider
from Montana Date Reviewed: July 8, 1997
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These spokes are good so far. I had to rebuild my rear wheel because I potato chiped the last one, and I got a Sun CR17a rim w/eyeletts and DT rev spokes. I also got aluminum spoke nipples and used blue Lock-Tite for the spoke prep. After about a week or so of urban riding and one day of slamming around in the hills, the wheel was all out of true. I re-trued it and it's ok now, but I am dissapointed that that happened so early. I don't know whether it was the Lock-Tite or the spokes or the eyeletts or what that made that happen, but I didn't like it. I am not a very heavy rider (132 lbs.) and that wasn't a big deal, but I am hoping I won't have to do it again in the future.
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David
a cross-country rider
from penn valley pa Date Reviewed: June 28, 1997
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Great spokes. no creaking. keep their true and work well with my 217 rims.accept no others.5 chilli's
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Kid
a cross-country rider
from Orebro/Sweden Date Reviewed: April 7, 1997
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I´m a nearly professional racer. I think these spokes built by Norra Cykel and Motor in Orebro did my wheels very good and I had them for both front and back . Alsa at driveside spokes. These spokes are coupled with Campa atek and Mirox paired with DT alu nipples and own CNC machined hubs and they lasted so far 3 months without truing. I give tehm a well deserved five chilis
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Ben Walters
a cross-country rider
from Raleigh North Carolina Date Reviewed: March 19, 1997
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So far So good. About a week ago I built two wheels with them and have no complaints
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Aaron Leighton
a cross-country rider
from San Luis Obispo, CA Date Reviewed: February 17, 1997
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I have been using them to build wheels for over a year and can attest that they are extremely durable as well as very light. A wheel with Revolutions is generally within 10-15grams of an identical wheel with Ti spokes, and at a much easier price to swallow. Another excellent DT product.
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Sam Burkhardt
a downhiller
from Seattle WA Date Reviewed: December 28, 1996
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Huh a downhiller, but these are XC spokes. Not really, I used to break spokes on a wheelsmiths equiped mavic 231. But now I've got revolutions on the front and non driveside and regular double butted DT's for the drive side. mounted to mavic121's front and rear. Haven't broken a single spoke yet, (all season) saved weight on that wheel too!!
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Ted
a cross-country rider
from PA Date Reviewed: November 6, 1996
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DT makes a quality product and I trust their spokes in my wheels. The Revolutions are very light, so don't use them for rear wheels. In front wheels they build nice, relatively inexpensive, lightweight wheels that are probably a bit stronger than wheels build with other companies' ultralight spokes.Some people claim they're flexy. Compared to Ti spokes any steel spoke is WAY stiffer. FWIW, I've got a XT/217 wheel with straight 14g spokes that feels flexier than a Hugi/217 wheel with 15g/17g.
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Ola Helenius
a cross-country rider
from Sweden Date Reviewed: June 7, 1996
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I've tried the Revolution spokes from DT. They are essentially the same as the normal butted spokes, except that that they are more butted. The normal spokes (DT Comp) are 2.0/1.8 mm or 1.8/1.6 mm and the Revo are 2.0/1.6 or 1.8/1.5mm. The materials and construction seems to be the same as the tried and true Comp. Weightwise You lose maybe 15-20grams when swithing from Comp to Revo. I build wheels myself, and I tried the 1.8/1.5 Revo for a front Cross/Country wheel, and the non-driveside coupled with Comp 2.0/1.8 driveside on a cross country rear wheel. Since the spokes are pretty thin, the wheels arent exactly the stiffest, but for my needs they work very well. The big thing about theese spokes are their lightness though.
The rating overall has to be good.
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Francis
a racer
from Campbell, CA Date Reviewed: May 13, 1996
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These spokes are light and strong and not too expensive. I saved about 80 grams per 32 spoke wheel. They're almost as light as ti spokes but without all the problems and cost me 35 cents per spoke (vs. $2 each for ti)
The wheel I build is as true as true can be after 6 months. This is an excellent excellent high-end upgrade. (I weigh 140 lbs.)
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Gerard Durrmeyer
a racer
from Switzerland Date Reviewed: May 10, 1996
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I am a swiss racer for team Bianchi and build cutom wheels. I have tried about every spoke that is made and have never had anything work as well as DT Revolutions. They work extremely well for snowflakes. Plus they are feather light. They get five well deserved stars.
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