Submitted by
Scott
a Weekend Warrior
from Houton Tx Date Reviewed: November 19, 2007
Favorite Trail:
all trails
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$89.00
Strengths:
light weight, easy to rebuild, sheds mud.
Weaknesses:
none to think of.
Similar Products Used:
time
Bike Setup:
GF Tass
Bottom Line:
I have had these for a while now, and damn they are tuff. I do not know what is up with the other guys posting saying they break. Perhaps they were not the Steal version but mine have been put through the works. As long as you remember to grease them No worries. I have not had to rebuild mine yet and they have been in some water and sand. Since We have more mud here in Houston I decided to go with the Egg Beater and I am glade that I did.
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Submitted by
Timsk
a Cross Country Rider
from Brighton, UK Date Reviewed: September 22, 2007
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$100.00
Purchased At:
Evans Cycles, Waterloo, UK
Strengths:
Light, very smooth disengagement, look cool in the glass cabinet in your LBS. Easy to maintain and spare parts are readily available.
Weaknesses:
They need rebuilding every 4 months with the $12 dollar rebuild kit. Extremely dangerous. Pedal has a tendancy to come off the spindle evey 500 miles or so due to inadequate weather sealing; all the internals rust and eventually fail. The design puts too much horizontal load on the bearings and they WILL eventually fail if you ride in wet conditions. Not designed for use outside of Southern California due to the possibility that it might rain. Inboard bearing's outer shell became completely siezed to the body with rust after the 4th bearing relapcement.
Similar Products Used:
Time ATACS
Bike Setup:
Too numerous to mention but cover MTBing, Long distance touring and commuting.
Bottom Line:
i don't know how they get away with it. Very dangerous product. I'm now boycotting all Crank Bros equipment. Has anyone ever successfully sued Crank Brothers due to serious injury? I was going to put them on Ebay but my concience got the better of me; I'd never stitch-up a fellow cyclist.
Stick with Shimano or Time.
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Submitted by
Hank
a Racer
from SW Wisconsin Date Reviewed: July 22, 2007
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Purchased At:
lbs
Strengths:
Light Weight, "good" looks
Weaknesses:
lots
Similar Products Used:
Spd, frog's, Time ATAC
Bike Setup:
full carbon XC
Bottom Line:
Simple fact for the weight and price they cant be beat.
If you want any more from a pedal get the Time ATAC, I have the 2004 model after they "fixed" the little problem of the platform pulling off of the spindle, and still, the platform came off the spindle (spindle wound up in my foot). I had the pedal rebuilt only to have the bearing cease and come off of the crank arm.
The only positives i have is, they are light, comparatively cheap for the weight, and they don't release like the time's when you bang a rock.
I'm going back to the Time ATAC, and I would recommend you do the same.
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Submitted by
Ray
a Weekend Warrior
from Puyallup,WA Date Reviewed: January 22, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Skookum Flats
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$90.00
Purchased At:
LBS
Strengths:
Robust, bulletproof, simple design, sheds mud like a dog on carpet.
Weaknesses:
None that I can think of
Similar Products Used:
Mallet C
Bottom Line:
Used these for a few years now in the Pacific NW. Lot's of mud, rocks, crashes. At first I was a little nervous that the binding would get damaged hitting rocks, logs, etc., but they have held up perfectly. They won't release no matter how hard you pull up, you have to twist out. On my third set of cleats which are brass and designed to wear out before damaging the binding on the pedal. Seems like a smart idea to me. More than enough float, and a predictable release everytime. Easily cleaned and re-lubed. These things will last forever.
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Submitted by
Ray Inman
a Racer
from Newark Date Reviewed: May 23, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Raceing at plattekill
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$100.00
Strengths:
Light weight
Weaknesses:
feet never stay clipped while torquing of in tech sections. I could go either way on the amount of float. These pedals are built like garbage.
Similar Products Used:
SPD's I geuss a little heavier but worth the more weight
Bike Setup:
Spec epic some custom stuff (My race bike)
Bottom Line:
I've only used these things four times (i raced them once at waywayaonda)before they totaly crapped on me. I craked one realy bad on one of the jaws the other one had a hairline crack in the same place. Bent the axel on the left and seized the bearins on the right(the jaws also were locked in the "open" position). That was the forth ride the first three were almost as disaterous. almost every time i would torqu up a climb one of the two, if not both would release. After my first ride I figured I had the cleats a little askew so i adjusted them many times with the same result. While desending they would roll out from under my feet. Like many other people have said while in tech sections (i.e. rock gardens) the bottom of the pedal sticks way down below the shoe and once struck will scissor and release. I ride generally NJ and NY very rocky steep stuff and race at Plattekill and am Doing the H2H series for 2006 and dont reccommend these pedals for anything NJ has too offer besides fireroads. I have reverted back to my SPD's TAKE THIS AS A WARNING these pedals are not for the serius hard rider they caused me many a headache
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Submitted by
Gabriel Vardones
a Cross Country Rider
from Middletown, CT. USA Date Reviewed: April 25, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Red trail at Case Mtn
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
Came with my new bike.
Strengths:
Good if you're filming a crash video because they'll guarantee fall overs and crashes.
Weaknesses:
Unpredictable release. Low-hanging design snags on rocks and step-ups.
Similar Products Used:
Wellgo SPD clones, Ritchey WCS, Onza, Shimano SPD 737 and 747.
Bike Setup:
Cannondale Rush 1000
Bottom Line:
These pedals are a travesty. In fact, they're a travesty of a mockery of a sham (Woody Allen). They came on my new Cannondale Rush 1000 and I was origionally enthusiastic about them. I liked the light weight and simple design. Then I tried them, and my enthusiasm waned pretty quick. Their are two major problems with these pedals. One is that release is very unpredictable. Sometimes they relese easily, sometimes not. The other is that the side you're not clipped (or sometimes locked) into hangs down low below the pedal spindle and snags on rocks and roots. it's like lowering your bottom bracket by 15mm. Also, the cleats are made of brass, a very soft metal that will wear away quickly. Mine had noticeable wear after only two rides. I rode on them five or six times and endured several fall-overs and copious scrapes to both elbows and forearms. Finally, the last straw came when I was trying to ride a step-up, maybe 18 inches high, and the pedal snagged, stopping me. Then I couldn't get unclipped and fell over. By bike suffered minor cosmetic scratches. They would have happened anyway, but the first damage to a new bike always bums you out. I'm going back to my old SPD 747s- they're not great pedals, but they're way better than these.
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Submitted by
owen
a Cross Country Rider
from park city, UT Date Reviewed: February 15, 2006
Favorite Trail:
porcupine rim, goosebury
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$69.00
Purchased At:
Price Point
Strengths:
Light, easy to clip in, lots of float. Float is good if you have bad knees.
Weaknesses:
Expensive cleats, and they wear out fast.
Similar Products Used:
shimano spd.
Bike Setup:
Santa Cruz Blur, Fox float front & rear, avid, easton, mavic, hope, bla, bla, bla.
Bottom Line:
A good looking, simple design, hassle free pedel. You will love it, especially in muddy regions. The cleats are designed to wear out, not wear out the pedal.
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Submitted by
kelly
a Cross Country Rider
from grover, wy Date Reviewed: October 31, 2005
Favorite Trail:
spruce hollow
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$120.00
Purchased At:
Bills Bike Shop Idaho Falls
Strengths:
Extremely easy to clip into. Just hit them with the tip of your toe, roll forward, and wait for the click.
Weaknesses:
Lateral float, but as one reviewer stated, "keep your toes pointed forward" and not much of a problem. However, the still feel a little "loose" side to side at times.
Similar Products Used:
ritchie comp
Bike Setup:
GT Avalanche 1.0
Bottom Line:
I used my old ritchie pedals for 3 years. Didn't really like them, but they were servicable. Took the bike in for repairs and decided to upgrade. So glad I did. This pedals take my bike to the next level. The feel better, perform better, and look better than my previous pedals. They feel indestructable under you feet. Clipped in feels secure and strong, but release easily with natural foot twist when falling. I ride an average of 3 times a week and do a lot of climbing followed by quick decents. I have no complaints after 3 hard summer months of riding. These pedals are excellent and do exactly what Crank Bros promises they will. That makes them worth the money in my book.
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Submitted by
Alan Semon
a Cross Country Rider
from Saylorsburg, PA Date Reviewed: July 20, 2005
Favorite Trail:
Allamuchy
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$120.00
Purchased At:
nashbar.com
Strengths:
Simplicity of design (easy rebuild/repair), easy clip-in/out (eventually), low weight.
Weaknesses:
Excessive float when compared to the Nashbar SPD pedals I've used.
Similar Products Used:
SPD pedals for 10+ years (if that is really similar).
Bike Setup:
Ancient Stumpjumper FSR
Bottom Line:
Bought these in a combo with Answer shoes through Nashbar and really like them. They are a little tricky to clip-in to at first, but I think that is more a product of having used SPD's for so long. They look very cool on the bike too!
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Submitted by
David Geracitano
a Cross Country Rider
from Albany NY USA Date Reviewed: July 9, 2005
I have had this setup for 4 years now and it is still going strong. People are complaining about the float, it is only side to side, so what's the problem? Keep your feet pointing forwards like you're supposed to, the minor amount of float gives you small room for error without unclipping on hard ascents. These things last forever, work great, and elicit a lot of questions from people, like "Where are you pedals?", or, "What the hell are those things?". I'll never buy any other pedal.
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Submitted by
jap p.
a Racer
from Miami Beach, Fl. Date Reviewed: April 9, 2005
Favorite Trail:
oleta river
Duration Product Used:
More than 3 years
Price Paid:
$80.00
Purchased At:
bell's bikes
Strengths:
simple, easy to maintain design. True trail proven performance. easy in easy out.
Weaknesses:
none that I can think of new ones are lighter but also more expensine and I personally don't think they can take the abuse as well.
Similar Products Used:
platforms, shimano 525's etc, have tried it all.
Bike Setup:
trek fuel 100: team volkswagen slr race frame, avid speed dial 5, sid race, fox floater, deore xtr, race mod bars slr.
Bottom Line:
These are by far the best pedals I've ever used due to the simplicity of design, value and durability, these guys will take a beating and will last for years on the roughest trails. Great buy.
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Submitted by
bernie
a
from Laguna, Philippines Date Reviewed: March 14, 2005
Favorite Trail:
Southwoods Road Interchange
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$70.00
Purchased At:
Cycling Zone Las Piñas
Strengths:
Very Lite, attention catching appearance, easy to engage/disengage. Mud Proof.
Weaknesses:
expensive, expensive and hard to find cleats too ( replacement )
Similar Products Used:
da bomb, shimano M545, azonic, and wellgo
Bike Setup:
Jamis Komodo FX with Deore Hydros Gruppo, Panaracer 2.1 XCFire tires and Taurus DB rims
Bottom Line:
A must for an MTB rider both road and trail lovers, very easy to use, easy in, easy out, mud proof, that is why this is the pedal on all conditions.
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Submitted by
Andro Galero
a
from Butuan City, Philippines Date Reviewed: March 9, 2005
Favorite Trail:
Malalag Trail
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$55.00
Purchased At:
second hand from friend
Strengths:
-simple design -smooth entry and exit -unique eggbeater look -very strong build & finish -very very good mud performance -light weight
Weaknesses:
-expensive replacement cleats
Similar Products Used:
Ritchey Comp & Shimano PD-M858 (used shimano multiple release cleats on both pedals)
Bike Setup:
Specialized Rockhopper trailriding shoes
Bottom Line:
Bought these pedals second hand from my friend who's upgrading to the more expensive and lighter Eggbeater Triple Titanium. I love the way my pedals look, its so simple and unique and has a very strong finish. It still doesn't have a single scratch after hitting the dirt for more than two years of trail riding abuse. Even when i'm walking thru mud, the pedals still clicks in, it has the best mud performance of all the pedals i have tested.
The only downside is its expensive replacement cleats, $20 per set. But at least it has lasted all these years and i still have not rebuilt it even though i ride 10-12 hours a week on rough terrain.
Buy these pedals if you're a weight-weenie trail rider on a budget.
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Submitted by
Erling Brabaek
a Cross Country Rider
from El Paso,TX Date Reviewed: November 21, 2004
Favorite Trail:
horse thief bench
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$80.00
Purchased At:
Ruby canyon cycles grand junction,CO
Strengths:
Indestructable
Weaknesses:
none so far
Similar Products Used:
candy sl
Bike Setup:
yeti 575, nixon
Bottom Line:
This is THE pedal for riding on rocks that will tare everything else up. Hid the rocks with this one the rocks loose.
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Submitted by
Adam Larson
a Cross Country Rider
from Osan Air Base, South Korea Date Reviewed: October 27, 2004
Favorite Trail:
Case Mt, Manchester, CT
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
Nashbar.com
Strengths:
Simple design, very easy to get in and out of, lots of float, no adjustments to worry about.
Weaknesses:
Fast cleat wear
Bike Setup:
2004 Specialized Stumpjumper w/ Fox Float fork
Bottom Line:
I bought these as a package deal with some Answer shoes, because of the good reviews I had read, and I couldn't be happier. 4 sides make these pedals very easy to get into. More importantly though, is how easy they are to get out of. I was a little worried when I saw that there is no tension adjustment, just two different release angles depending on how you install the cleats. But as soon as I started using these pedals I realized that I was worried about nothing. The release of these pedals is amazing. I don't even have to think about it. My foot's instinctive reflex when falling is all it takes to get out. And I've only had one or two accidental clipouts while riding, probably because the cleats are starting to wear a bit. The fast cleat wear is the only weakness but you can pick up replacements for $20 so it's not that big a deal. I recommend these pedals to anyone. I suppose you could go for the Ti versions if you've got the money and want to shed a few grams, but for value, stick with these.
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Submitted by
Kevin
a Cross Country Rider
from Atlanta, GA Date Reviewed: October 26, 2004
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Light, simple, easy in & out, mud isn't an issue
Weaknesses:
A little bit less clearance than most pedals, and in rock gardens if you hit the pedal in the right spot it will release. No platform (not really a problem with good stiff shoes)
Similar Products Used:
Shimano m-520s
Bottom Line:
These pedals work great. I have almost no complaints. They are definately better than others I have tried. For the price they can't be beat.
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Submitted by
Ron
a Weekend Warrior
from Phoenix, AZ Date Reviewed: October 19, 2004
Favorite Trail:
McDowell Mt race loop
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$85.00
Purchased At:
Supergo
Strengths:
Nice design: Light, strong, serviceable
Weaknesses:
Not as easy to engage as advertised.
Similar Products Used:
SPD clones, Time ATAC Alum and composite
Bike Setup:
FSR XC
Bottom Line:
These are nice pedals for the price. Should be very durable by design. The benefit of 4 sided entry is not evident to me coming from five years using Time ATACs. I ride in the desert and have beaten these on plenty of rocks without damage to the pedal. I believe the reported problem of ejection due to rock impact is overblown. I have popped out of these a couple of times when bashing a rock but I have had the same experience on SPD and Times. Overall the best pedal for the money but not as good as Times (except for aliums which were destroyed by the rocks)
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Submitted by
G.K.
a Cross Country Rider
from Phoenix Date Reviewed: September 25, 2004
Favorite Trail:
Mormon/National Loop
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$100.00
Strengths:
Good looking and simplistic.
Weaknesses:
Too much float and it feels like you are standing on a tooth pick.
Similar Products Used:
Old Shimano 737's (from way back in the day) and now I use Ritchey V3's.
Standing on a tooth pick is completely un-nerving. There was insane float to the point where you cannot feel any definite release point (very numb feel). Just because it has four sides does not mean that the are any easier to get into. In fact, I think they are harder to get into because there is no flat side to keep the pedal still shile you clip. Many times i have tried to clip in and the just rotated and my feet whent slip-sliding off the front of the pedal. Plus, aside from turning the cleat around on your shoe, there are no adjustment options at all.
I case you can't tell, I did not like them at all. The only reason I used them for an entire year is that I paid $100 and wanted to give them a real chance and figured that I might grow to appreciate them or learn to like them. I didn't. I love the SPD style with adjustments and the substantial feel of a real pedal under my foot. My advise, stick with the style that has withstood the test of time and not the latest flash in the pan.
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Submitted by
the_dude
a Cross Country Rider
from southwick, massachusetts Date Reviewed: August 10, 2004
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$50.00
Purchased At:
online retailer
Strengths:
looks pretty damned cool. easy in, easy out. awesome customer service (in my experience at least).
Weaknesses:
first pair had too much float in the right pedal. warrantee replacement pair make a bit of creaking noise on occasion. no big deal really.
Similar Products Used:
a few other pedals (spd and platform). nothing really similar though.
Bike Setup:
rigid ss.
Bottom Line:
overall a pretty damned good pedal. i originally bought last year's chrome version with a 20% off coupon from performance, but crank bros. sent me new stainless steel replacements. pretty sweet if you ask me. anyway, back to the pedal itself....i've had very minimal problems with them, and would recommend them to anyone looking for a good all around pedal. i think the problem with people catching them on rocks comes from a.) long cranks b.) low bottom bracket c.) pedaling while leaning into corners strewn with baby-head rocks. i can honestly say i've only hit a rock once with these, and it was in an area where i've done the same with other types of pedals as well. overall, a good pedal....and if you can get them as cheap as i did, they're unbeatable.
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Submitted by
Lactic Addict
a
from Chatham, NY, USA Date Reviewed: July 19, 2004
Favorite Trail:
Broken Thumb
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$60.00
Purchased At:
Crank Bros. booth @ Pedro's
Strengths:
Easy clip-in. Easy clip-out. Has no problem with mud whatsoever. Light. Looks cool. Crank Brothers has the coolest packaging for their products.
Weaknesses:
None so far.
Similar Products Used:
Bontrager RE-1.
Bike Setup:
Santa Cruz Superlight.
Bottom Line:
I LOVE these pedals! Yes, I've only had them for a few days, but I've done about 50 miles of wet, muddy, riding with them and they have performed absolutely incredibly. I'm going to have to train my mind to stop worrying about having mud on the bottom of my shoes, because these pedals just don't give a #@%&! It's a great feeling to know that you will always be able to easily clip in, especially on slick, technical uphills where you don't have time to mess around. I got a great deal from the Crank Brothers booth at Pedro's Fest and couldn't refuse. So far I'm incredibly happy with these pedals!
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Submitted by
Robin
a Cross Country Rider
from Albuquerque, NM Date Reviewed: July 16, 2004
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$110.00
Purchased At:
LBS
Strengths:
Amazing pedals. Strong, relatively light and very easy to use. give your bike a unique look.
Weaknesses:
??? Not as light at the 400 triple Ti's.
Bike Setup:
Iron Horse Rogue (hardtail) XTR derr, XT shifters, FSA crank, Fox float 100 RLC
Bottom Line:
These pedals are awsome. These are the first clipless pedals I have ever had, so they were kinda strange and a little scary at first. After a couple of weeks of riding them I felt very comfortable clipping in and out while on the road. Clipping out on the trail is just as easy even at the last moment before you tip over. Clipping in is also extremely easy (once you've got it down). Even on a steep incline, all you have to do is put your cleat on the pedal and start pedaling and you will be locked in (Try as little as 1/4 of a turn of the crank!!) There seems to be no way mud can clog these. I have taken shoes with mud caked all over the cleat and stepped on the pedal and SNAP! nothing seems to stop them. They can also take quite a beating, as mine routinely smack rocks on every ride.
Who should get these? Anyone who wants to start using clippless pedals offroad, and isn't afraid to take a few spills. Or people who want a clog-proof system. Who shouldn't? People who are used to a different kind of pedal and don't want to re-learn the operation.
Very reliable and tough, and they look very cool.
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Submitted by
Calum
a Cross Country Rider
from Ontario, Canada Date Reviewed: July 1, 2004
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
LBS
Strengths:
Light, No mud problems, Just plain sweet
Weaknesses:
See the bottom line
Similar Products Used:
SPDs, ATACs, Richeys
Bottom Line:
I bought these pedals after my 2002's had to be sent off to be repaired and the return time was looking a little sketchy (I was told between one and three months). These pedals had performed beyond my expectations, however during a road ride, the cage (for lack of a better word - the place that is in contact with the cleat) broke off and couldn't be fixed locally.
The 2003's were great as well, however after about seven months of use, the allen key system became more and more difficult to use, even though I greased the contact points every two weeks. It became very difficult to remove the eggbeaters (using tools) even when they had been inserted just to hand tension. One day the pedals jammed into the cranks of my Rocky Mountain Blizzard, and even my LBS ran dry of ideas as to how to remove the pedals (although they were able to remedy the problem after three weeks). I called all of the other bike stores in the city to ask if they'd encountered similar problems, but the impression that I got was that this is a one off case.
I am now left with a pair of 03's that I'm afraid to put on any of my bikes, a pair of 02's that have been with the sales rep for more than a year trying to get repaired even though I constantly hassle my LBS about getting them back. I am back to using my old SPD's whenever I want to ride, and I miss the performance of the eggbeaters. As stellar as these pedals are it's extremely fustrating to have spend hundreds on two pairs of pedals that I can't even use.
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Submitted by
Chris
a Weekend Warrior
from Boston Date Reviewed: July 1, 2004
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$130.00
Purchased At:
REI
Strengths:
Simple design
Weaknesses:
Less clearence, Stick out farther on sides, tiny preassure point on foot, hitting rocks releases/breaks pedals.
Similar Products Used:
SPD Pedals
Bottom Line:
I can't say too much about them because I broke them in 20 minutes of riding. The first rock I it with any force pushed the spring mechanism past where its supposed to be and it jammed. I broke my leatherman tring to pry it back. I really don't see how any serious mountain biker could like these. I hit rocks many times a ride and have never broken a pedal, even a $12 nashbar pair lasted me 4 years. Even if they don't break from a hit the design will cuase them to release. Unless you stick to fire roads and never do any real terrain stay away from these pedals.
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Submitted by
CrazyCarl
a
from Davis, CA Date Reviewed: June 16, 2004
Favorite Trail:
The once great Mickey Mouse
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$70.00
Purchased At:
Ebay
Strengths:
Rebuildable
Weaknesses:
See my description...
Similar Products Used:
A few different brands of SPD's
Bike Setup:
Mostly stock R.M. ETS-X70
Bottom Line:
Well, I decided to jump on the bandwagon and try the "greatest thing since sliced bread." Maybe I'm missing something, but these things are awful. I got the SS versions from Ebay from $70 (they retail for $140, what a rip-off!). First of all, they have a lot of float. A LOT OF FLOAT!! In every direction - up, down, side-to-side, I've never felt something that destroyed my confidence more then these things. They also come unclipped all of the time. Every time you hit a rock with the pedal (which happens a lot with these) you actuate the springs on the opposite side which cause the pedals to release. Also, you can really feel how small the contact point is with your shoe - it feels like you're standing on a greasy marble. Because the connection with the pedals is so loose and floppy, it makes both technical climbs and decents more difficult. I guess these pedals would be good if you want a really loose, floating pedal, but for me it's just irritating.
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Submitted by
Chris
a Cross Country Rider
from Salt Lake City Date Reviewed: June 10, 2004
$ 140.00
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