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k
a Weekend Warrior
from boston, maDate Reviewed: March 28, 2004
Strengths: um...they are black? they dont put rat poison in my food?Weaknesses: they break, bearings are crap, freehub body is crap, flanges are crap, all around crapBottom Line: Dont buy these hubs, formula is possibly the worst hubs i have ever used! LBS gave me these laced to rhyno's after the wheelset they built me was sold accidentally (oops) Heres the rundown, they broke on the first ride, well not really the first ride was the ride home from the shop, they waited til I was out on the trail to fail. The freehub became loose and wouldnt catch after a few miles, when I looked down at the hubs, heres what i saw, two of the flanges on the front wheel were cracked and subsequently the spokes were overly loose. The bearings felt like they had rocks in them. I took them back to the shop and they apologized and offered t replace them, no thanks, I'll go with xt discs from now on.
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$100.00
Purchased At: got from friend
Similar Products Used: hugi hayes, xt disc
Bike Setup: surly w/ dj3
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Mark M.
a Cross Country Rider
from SLC, UtahDate Reviewed: February 5, 2004
Strengths: The price at first but...Weaknesses: they last no longer than 3 weeks.Bottom Line: My issue is with the quality of the hubs. My local bike shop could not service the hubs and I was told I had to send them back to the manufacturer. Axel would not fit properly in the hub without coming loose after each ride.
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$150.00
Purchased At: Local Bike Shop
Similar Products Used: standard mavic/shimano combo
Bike Setup: Trek hardtail
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Paul Elkins
a Cross Country Rider
from Aliso ViejoDate Reviewed: May 18, 2003
Strengths: Price. Light weight, stay true, strong rims.Weaknesses: cartridge bearings don't lastBottom Line: These wheels were great while they lasted. They have very little side movement compared to my Rolf's. I didn't need to true them but once, and that was after 10 races and many training miles on them.
Unfortunately the bearings are of poor quality. They seized up on one side after a race with some mud sections. You can't service them either. I removed the dust covers. After cleaning the bearings off they look brand new. However, they are seized solid. I can't spin the one side. The wheel only spins for about 2 revolutions with a firm pull. The rear seems to be getting stiction in the bearings also.
Favorite Trail: San Juan
Duration Product Used: 6 months
Price Paid:
$175.00
Purchased At: SuperGo
Similar Products Used: Rolf Propel, Mavic 517, 221, 138, 317 etc.
Bike Setup: Hardtail race setup
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Craig
a Cross Country Rider
from Irvine, CADate Reviewed: May 6, 2003
Strengths: Light and inexpensive.Weaknesses: Spokes break frequently.Bottom Line: I am 210lbs and 6'3" and have replaced the spokes on both the drive side and the other over 5 times now. All the problems are with the rear wheel. I ride the bike through town and on trails on a daily basis. The town rides include jumping onto sidewalks and down stairs. The previous Shimano LX rims that came with my bike never had this problem, the the rear hub eventually bent. Looks like you get what you pay for.
Duration Product Used: 1 Year
Price Paid:
$175.00
Purchased At: Supergo
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Rob Sides
a Cross Country Rider
from K'vegas NC USADate Reviewed: April 14, 2003
Strengths: Light Strong(externally)Weaknesses: Crappy pawls in the freehub No customer supportBottom Line: I got about 20 rides out of these before the rear hub turned into a "not so free wheel".(Mid ride, of course!) Upon opening the rear hub up, I discovered the engagement pawls had disintegrated into little pieces. I was not able to find a link to Formula for replacement parts anywhere, and SuperGo said that they didn't even have the phone number or Email address to contact them. Bottom line: You get what you pay for!
Favorite Trail: Tsali
Duration Product Used: 6 months
Price Paid:
$175.00
Purchased At: SuperGo
Similar Products Used: White Industries/Mavic 517s
Bike Setup: Schwinn Home Grown Factory USA RaceFace Marzocchi Z1 Sram 9.0SL
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Dwayne
a Racer
from Lake Charles, LA, USDate Reviewed: March 16, 2003
Strengths: Light, Inexpensive, Fairly DurableWeaknesses: NoneBottom Line: Great Wheels for twice the price you have to pay for them. Used for several hundred miles on the trails without problems. Only had to true them once after a major crash on the road where I was far worse then the bike.
Duration Product Used: 6 months
Price Paid:
$175.00
Purchased At: Supergo
Similar Products Used: XT/221
Bike Setup: FSRxc, XTR, SID SL
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bendlight
a Weekend Warrior
from austin, tx, usDate Reviewed: November 11, 2002
Strengths: cheap, light, stays true once broken inWeaknesses: brass nipples are easy to screw upBottom Line: I have ridden the rims for about 160 hours now. The rear rim went horribly out of true on first ride. Had a shop true them (supposedly), but ended up doing myself. My tension was not great enough so the rear went off again. Then I upped the tension and it has kept true ever since. The front has always maintain true. I ride really rocky terrain with lots of drops and creeks with water, and since the last truing they have preformed flawlessly. Still run smooth and are staying true.
Duration Product Used: 3 months
Price Paid:
$175.00
Purchased At: supergo
Similar Products Used: mavic 551 and cross max, rolf dolomite
Bike Setup: schwinn s-20 with duke sl
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Barry
a Cross Country Rider
from Las Cruces, NMDate Reviewed: November 6, 2002
Strengths: Light and spin smoothly and fast. I like the cartridge hub design.
Nice Rims.
Good value.Weaknesses: Cartridge bearings are inferior quality. After four months of cross country ridings, the bearings gave out. Upon inspection, balls were either broken or badly deformed in all the cartridges. I'm a cross country racer, not a downhiller. This should not happen.
Rims went out of true rather quickly and needed constant truing, more than any other set I've used.Bottom Line: Nice rims but cheap, weak hubs, with inferior quality bearings. Supergo might take them back, but then I'd have to get another set in the mean time. Maybe if I replace all the cartridge bearings with high-end bearings, they'll do me well.
Duration Product Used: 6 months
Price Paid:
$170.00
Purchased At: Supergo
Similar Products Used: Spox Spinergy, Ritchey Wheelsets.
Bike Setup: Litespeed Owl Hollow with full xtr, sid.
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Franz
a Weekend Warrior
from Sand Looney NabiscoDate Reviewed: October 12, 2002
Strengths: Very light, true.Weaknesses: None yetBottom Line: I just had to post a quick review. Over the 20 years I've been riding few things I've changed have made such an immediate difference. It is as if I have an extra gear. The difference in speed and excelleration is very noticable. Impressive. Good looking, too.
If they hold up as well as my 221's, which I got over 3000 miles on, then I will be very happy.
WATCH OUT WHEN BUYING FROM SUPERGO. THE WEB PRICE WAS 175 AND THE MAGAZINE PRICE WAS 159. I WAS CHARGED 175 AND HAD TO WRESTLE THEM FOR A STORE CREDIT. THEY REFUSED TO DO A STRAIGHT REFUND FOR THE AMOUNT THEY OVERCHARGING ME. BUYER BEWARE.
Favorite Trail: the bluff
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$160.00
Purchased At: supergo
Similar Products Used: Deore LX w/Mavic 221
Bike Setup: FS, Z2, Fox rx, Lx, Xt, Xtr, etc.
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Bob
a Cross Country Rider
from Charlotte, NCDate Reviewed: October 5, 2002
Strengths: light, smooth, cool lookingWeaknesses: little flex in the front wheelBottom Line: I'm 6'2" 210 lbs. I noticed a little flex in the front wheel on some tight single track but nothing that would cause me to be concerned that the wheel was going to taco. It may just be that I’m use to riding a 32 spoke wheel that has to be stiffer. They are fast and look great. As for durability the best I have gotten out of a rim “I have two xt hub sets with trashed rims” is two years and if I can get two years out of these I will be very happy considering the price and the weight.
Favorite Trail: fast and tight
Duration Product Used: 3 months
Price Paid:
$175.00
Purchased At: supergo
Similar Products Used: xt hub with bontrager mustang, xt with mavic 517, stock gary fisher from 98
Bike Setup: trek fuel frame, mostly xt parts from old hardtail
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Grant
from Macon, GA, USADate Reviewed: September 23, 2002
Strengths: They are extremely light. The hubs have sealed bearings and spin forever. Very strong.Weaknesses: I'm a little afraid that the high tension spokes (so few, so much tension!) will be difficult for me to true when the time comes.Bottom Line: I have done close to 70 miles so far on these wheels and they are still perfectly true and the spokes are still as highly tensioned as when I put them on the bike. The price was simply amazing for what you get here. Again, they were cheap (little more than the Mavic 221s which are arguably the worst wheels in the world) and incredibly light and strong. For reference, I weigh 180 lbs. These things are great.
On a technical note, the lightness of the front wheel has resulted in a noticeable ease in making tight turns when compared to the Bontrager Superstocks the replaced. Decrease in rotational weight I guess. Cool side effect, I just thought lighter meant easier to haul up a hill. Give them a shot.
Favorite Trail: Dauset Trails
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$175.00
Purchased At: Supergo
Similar Products Used: Mavic 221, Bontrager Superstock, Sun Rhyno Lites,
Bike Setup: Klein Attitude, with mix of Shimano, Bontrager, and Avid parts and controls.
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eric hoefer
a Cross Country Rider
from NYDate Reviewed: September 18, 2002
Strengths: Light wheels. Lighter than most wheelsets twice the price. Very strong ridden them for 3 monts and they are still true. I weigh 225 and havnt had one problem.Weaknesses: Every one wants to ride my bike to try them out.Bottom Line: If you ride mostly tight singltrack XC riding buy these wheels the next time u need some. like i said im a big guy and have had no trouble at all. they are light and easily chopped a pound off of the total weight off of my bike. I give this prodct 5 flamin chilis across the board.
Favorite Trail: Hunter mtn
Duration Product Used: 3 months
Price Paid:
$175.00
Purchased At: supergo.com
Similar Products Used: None first invested wheelset
Bike Setup: KHS alite 3000 with XT LX drivetrain Truvativ Firex xc crank formula wheels titec bars post and stem. specialized seat.
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joe
a Weekend Warrior
from oregonDate Reviewed: August 30, 2002
Strengths: light as hellBottom Line: nice set of wheels, ive beat the CRAP! out of them over root infested single track and have come back only slighty out of true. I dont know what to expect out of a good wheelset, i only wiegh 150lbs and this is my first buy, but they seem to be worth what i paid for them. Heavier riders might want to get something more appropriate but for light guys it should be fine. 4 and 4
Favorite Trail: all trails
Duration Product Used: 6 months
Purchased At: supergo
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DOUG B
a Cross Country Rider
from RIVERSIDE, CA USADate Reviewed: June 26, 2002
Strengths: LIGHT WEIGHT, CARTRIDGE BEARINGS, LOOKS, STRONG, AND THEY SPIN SUPER SMOOTH.Weaknesses: NONE YETBottom Line: I HAV'NT HAD THEM FOR TOO LONG, BUT FROM WHAT I CAN TELL THEY'RE GONNA BE A GOOD INVESTMENT. THE FIRST THING I NOTICED IS HOW SMOOTH THEY SPIN, THEN HOW LIGHT THEY ARE WHEN I COMPARED THEM TO MY OTHER WHEELSET. THE BLACK ON BLACK IS NICE AND KEPT THE COLOR SCHEME OF MY BIKE TRUE WHICH IS RED AND BLACK. USUALLY ON A NEW WHEELSET I'LL TWEAK THEM A LITTLE HAS THEY INITIALLY BREAK IN, BUT AFTER A FEW RIDES WHERE I SOMEWHAT PURPOSELY BEAT THEM THEY STAYED TRUE. I HAVE NEVER DONE THAT ON A NEW WHEELSET (EXCEPT FOR MY RYNO'S). LAST BUT NOT LEAST THE PRICE. WHAT CAN YOU SAY FOR 175 BUCKS.
Favorite Trail: ANY IN THE DIRT
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$175.00
Purchased At: SUPERGO
Similar Products Used: MAVICS GARBAGE, ARAYA'S NOT BAD, TIOGA, SUN RYNO'S.
Bike Setup: SCHWINN MOAB 2 XT, LX MIX, DUKE SL 100MM, EASTON MONKEY LITE BARS, SAVAGE WHEELSET.
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Mark
a Cross Country Rider
from MplsDate Reviewed: June 23, 2002
Strengths: Cheap and light they also look wicked cool, all blackWeaknesses: noneBottom Line: I was the first to respond to these wheels and been very happy with them. I'm six for three and weigh 210, and they are holding up great. I recently converted them to tubeless using stans notubes and richey alpha and omega wcs tires which are not tubeless. All I can say is awesome.
Duration Product Used: 6 months
Price Paid:
$175.00
Purchased At: supergo
Similar Products Used: everything
Bike Setup: 9.9
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