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Tioga Red Phoenix Tire

3.13/5 (24 Reviews)
MSRP : $28.49


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> Super lightweight Cylex casing (127TPI) > Available with Slow Rebound Rubber > 1.80" - 360g folding bead > 1.90" - 440g folding bead


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User Reviews

Overall Rating:4
Value Rating:5
Submitted by andy a Cross Country Rider from the midlands u.k.

Date Reviewed: December 5, 2009

Strengths:    light

Weaknesses:    used all the different compound types, ust, ordered the same this time and the rolling resistance killed me, it's the tyres, honest.

Bottom Line:   
All sizes are light, they do wear fast, never missed a line,sidewall dose give, espesially if you run no flats,but then you dont get flats, predictable tyre, will use again, the dogs.

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Favorite Trail:   local riverside rides, the dalels & trails

Duration Product Used:   More than 3 years

Price Paid:    $20.00

Purchased At:   chainreaction

Similar Products Used:   wtb, intense, kenda.

Bike Setup:   giant nrs xtc team, xt, slx, fsa carbon bits,sid shock, revelation air

Overall Rating:3
Value Rating:3
Submitted by Latias93 a Cross Country Rider from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Date Reviewed: February 21, 2009

Strengths:    Good grip, soft compound.

Weaknesses:    Not as good as the Yellow Kirin.

Bottom Line:   
There wasn't any stock in the Yellow Kirin so I grabbed the Red Phoenix instead. It lasted me well for about a year, but sadly due to my excessive skidding and 'drifting' on tarmac allowed the the tires to wear out fast.

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Favorite Trail:   Bukit Kiara

Duration Product Used:   1 Year

Price Paid:    $30.00

Purchased At:   KSH Taman Tun

Similar Products Used:   Specialized Pro

Bike Setup:   Giant XtC Team, Marzocchi Bomber, Avid Single Digit 3

Overall Rating:1
Value Rating:1
Submitted by jojie tan a Cross Country Rider from philippines

Date Reviewed: November 25, 2007

Strengths:    its really sad to say but i connot find any strengths on this tire.

Weaknesses:    oh man this tire wear really fast specially on my rear tire... its not worth it for $25 bucks or 800 pesos.

Bottom Line:   
dont ever think to get this crap! it will disappoint you. i dont wanna give even 1 chili on this product. what a waste of money.

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Duration Product Used:   Less than 1 month

Price Paid:    $25.00

Purchased At:   purchased to Raven

Similar Products Used:   none. its one of a kind

Bike Setup:   XC

Overall Rating:4
Value Rating:5
Submitted by Doug a Cross Country Rider from Wakefield, Mass.

Date Reviewed: May 29, 2007

Strengths:    Super light. Great tread design. Sheds mud. Hooks up great in dry, wet, rooty, just about all conditions.

Weaknesses:    Light weight has given it a thin casing.

Bottom Line:   
I've set up this bike to be as much of a budget racer as possible. Frame weight is an issue. The tires were terrific at a race this past weekend. The course was a good mix of dry dust single track with half a dozen stream crossings and some quick muddy sections thrown in here and there. Lots of roots and a few rocks. Nothing stopped this tire from performing! It took everything in stride and kept me going. Not once did I have to stop for loss of traction. Lots of tight twisty sections on the downhills and climbs. No loss of cornering confidence. I hung it out and they kept me in the race. Really impressed with the bite and weight of these tires. Ran about 35-40 psi with tubes. No flats. Great racing tire. Giving 4 chilis because the sidewalls could potentialy be compromised on really sharp rocky sections. But they aren't an all-mountain tire.

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Favorite Trail:   Boston area variety

Duration Product Used:   3 months

Price Paid:    $25.00

Purchased At:   eBay

Similar Products Used:   Specialized Fast Trak, Resolution. Panaracer Fire XC Pro.

Bike Setup:   05 Specialized FSRxc. Mavic 717/XT hubs, XT drivetrain, Truvative Team post, stem, flat bars. Rock Shox Revelation 426 Air fork. Hayes MX1 mech. discs.

Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:5
Submitted by david tweeddale a Racer from barling, ar. 72923

Date Reviewed: November 3, 2006

Strengths:    Super Super Fast and Hooks up Well. Great for dry conditions. Best XC racing tire I've ever used.

Weaknesses:    Wears Fast and is very slippery in wet conditions. Not good for sharp rock gardens.

Bottom Line:   
This is the best XC racing tire I've found. Super Fast.

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Favorite Trail:   Womble - Arkansas

Duration Product Used:   2 Years

Price Paid:    $40.00

Purchased At:   online various places

Similar Products Used:   10 to 15 other various tires

Bike Setup:   Santa Cruz Blur all top of the line components.

Overall Rating:2
Value Rating:3
Submitted by Big Daddy K from Livermore, CA, USA

Date Reviewed: March 31, 2006

Strengths:    Small Profile
Not too heavy
Never flatted


Weaknesses:    Used once for Sea Otter Epic ... tread was gone by 50% +/- by the time ride completed - could not withstand big breaking. Better suited for short track (known distances).

Bottom Line:   
POOR LITTLE THING JUST DIDN'T HOLD TOGETHER

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Favorite Trail:   LEFT LEFT LEFT

Duration Product Used:   Tested or demo'ed only

Price Paid:    $35.00

Purchased At:   Livermore Cyclery

Similar Products Used:   All five Elements (except yellows) and DH -as a rule me likey Tioga.

Bike Setup:   Enduro Pro with Fox 'nilla 125 XT group using Larsen TT up front at the time.

Overall Rating:5
Value Rating:5
Submitted by Skillit a Racer from Long Beach, CA.

Date Reviewed: September 12, 2005

Strengths:    Unbelievable Hook up on all terrain.

Weaknesses:    Fast wear

Bottom Line:   
I raced these tires for three years at Sea Otter from muddy to dry. Trained on them in between races. I use Stans and have never had a flat. Recently I took the Scalpel and raced the Brian Head Epic 100 on 2.0's. I took them off my single speed so I could replace the brand new pythons that came on the Scalpel. Blew a seal on the Lefty at 32 miles and dropped pressure from 40 to 35 and finished the race without suspension. Cross Country Racers this tire is a must. I WOULD RATHER RIDE USED RED PHOENIX THAN BRAND NEW PYTHONS!

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Favorite Trail:   Holy Jim

Duration Product Used:   More than 3 years

Price Paid:    $25.00

Purchased At:   wont say

Similar Products Used:   python light

Bike Setup:   2003 Jekyll 3000 with 1.9's, 2005 Scalpel 3000 with 2.0's

Overall Rating:2
Value Rating:2
Submitted by crash a Cross Country Rider from NY

Date Reviewed: August 24, 2005

Strengths:    lightweight, fast

Weaknesses:    lightweight, thin

Bottom Line:   
pinch flat at 38 lbs, pinch at 40 lbs, pinch at 45 lbs, pich at 50lbs, pinch at 55lbs, pinch flat pinch flat pinch flat and ... oh yeah, pinch flat - these tires would be great for fire roads, but throw in a rock or a log and they underperform, im a bit abusive but i have never had as many flats - i ride 4-5 times/wk on fairly aggressive xc trail and i have literally flatted 4 times in my last 7 outings with these tires - they're driving me f-ing nuts

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Duration Product Used:   3 months

Price Paid:    $30.00

Similar Products Used:   tioga blue, wtb veloc, wtb moto, spec pro

Bike Setup:   chameleon, vanilla r, hayes 9, xt, rf xc xtype, thompson post

Overall Rating:4
Value Rating:4
Submitted by Ricardo Rueda a Cross Country Rider from Bogota, Colombia

Date Reviewed: August 21, 2005

Strengths:    Price, Lightweight, front and rear specific.

Weaknesses:    Wear fast on paved but they are not for paved roads anyway.

Bottom Line:   
Great tires for mud and muddy hardpacks. Corner very well, haven't hard one single flat. They are great for thick mud, they just dig and rarely loose any traction. Haven't tried them on dry hardpack yet.

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Favorite Trail:   Betania

Duration Product Used:   Less than 1 month

Purchased At:   OEM

Similar Products Used:   Ching Shen, Maxxis Medusa and WTB Velociraptor

Bike Setup:   Felt EPO stock except for pedals.

Overall Rating:1
Value Rating:1
Submitted by Eric a Racer from seattle

Date Reviewed: April 21, 2005

Strengths:    none

Weaknesses:    these tires stink. at high speed gravel downhills they will float and ptoentially cause you to crash. The first day I rode these tires I was going about 10 mph and took a easy 90 degree turn and complety power slid without even braking. A truly near death experience.

Bottom Line:   
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Favorite Trail:   haha

Duration Product Used:   Less than 1 month

Purchased At:   stock on bike

Similar Products Used:   everything better

Bike Setup:   A awesome Kona Kula Deluxe

Overall Rating:4
Value Rating:4
Submitted by Kris Kern a Cross Country Rider from Brooklyn, MI, USA

Date Reviewed: April 8, 2005

Strengths:    Fast tire, good grip in most situations.




Weaknesses:    No bite in slick mud and wet leaves.A little heavy(wire version)



Bottom Line:   
Tese tires are great in the right conditions. Tried to ride them last spring and hated them. No control on wet trails in MI. Put them back on in the summer when it dried out and found them to be a great tire. One ride this spring confirmed they are not for the wet.When it dries out I will get the kevlar ones. Would recomend only for dry .

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Favorite Trail:   FT Custer

Duration Product Used:   1 Year

Purchased At:   Stock with bike.

Similar Products Used:   IRC, Conti

Bike Setup:   03 Kikapu

Overall Rating:4
Value Rating:2
Submitted by Nate a Racer from Logan, Utah

Date Reviewed: March 14, 2005

Strengths:    Mud, cornering, lack of flats, very lightweight

Weaknesses:    Sluggish rolling, occasionally breaks loose on climbs

Bottom Line:   
So far, so good. I haven't experienced the durability problems of others, as well as the flat problems. I've been riding them for three months and not had a flat (Especially bizarre for me).

They do extremely well in mud because of the wide knob spacing (Considering their 1.9 size), and corner superbly because of the soft rubber. However, the softer rubber causes much slower rolling resistance than say, a Python. It will probably start wearing out soon as well. They occasionally break loose on very steep climbs, but I've yet to find an XC tire that does that exceptionally well.

They are very light, much lighter than other XC tires, but this probably has a downside as well. I'll post again in three months if they're shot.

They came OEM on my bike, but I probably wouldn't pay the 40 $ MSRP for them. For that much, you can get the superior Pythons.

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Duration Product Used:   3 months

Purchased At:   Joyride Bikes

Similar Products Used:   Panaracer FireXC, Geax Sedona, Hutchinson Python, IRC SeracXC

Bike Setup:   GT ID-XC 1.0

Overall Rating:3
Value Rating:3
Submitted by Elvis a Cross Country Rider from UK

Date Reviewed: February 18, 2005

Strengths:    Low rolling resistance. I use the bike not only as an off road machine but a as a winter alternative to my road bike. It flies on tarmac compared to my friends bike with semi slicks. Dry trail performance also seems good.

Weaknesses:    No puncture resistance. The first time I used them I got 5 thorn holes in the back tyre and had to get off and push. Then I noticed the front one went down too.

Bottom Line:   
I got around the puncture thing with Slime inner tubes. Mine are the steel versions. I might consider the Kevlar versions when its time to change, if only for rolling resistance and weight.

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Duration Product Used:   6 months

Similar Products Used:   N/A

Bike Setup:   Came as stock on Kona Kikapu Deluxe.

Overall Rating:2
Value Rating:2
Submitted by Andrew from Melbourne, Australia

Date Reviewed: November 24, 2004

Strengths:    Light weight (mine's 1.95), low rolling resistance, excellent traction on hardpack to light to moderate surfaces. Drift nicely. Also works well on wet tarmac and mud!

Weaknesses:    Fast wear, lack of grip on anything with large loose surface(except sand) like gravel, too terrain specific. Death trap in wet rock gardens. Quite pricy for so little rubber.

Bottom Line:   
This tire came stock with the bike to help moving the bike off the showroom floor because they make the bike light with it's tiny weight (410 grams or thereabouts). First glance gave me an impression as a lightweight XC tire and one ride confirmed this. Easy to accelerate due to low weight and short knobs. Excellent traction in hardpack to moderately packed dirt -BUT- it is easy to provoke the tire into a drift due tire's low centre knobs and smallish side knobs. Hook up surprisingly well in mud but requires exceptional concentration and balance on the rider's part to get the most out of this tire in slimy stuff but tire sheds mud very well so allows the rider to grind on. Also surprisingly grippy in the wet tarmac as well for such a small tire.

That was the good bit. Here's the bad news.

If you want a tire to scare yourself silly, take this tire onto a gravel covered fire trail and get up to a decent speed. If you've got this tire on the back prepare yourself for some extended sideway drift cornering once you start leaning into a corner. Once it start to drift, it keeps hanging out there until either you 1)slow down 2) scrub off too much speed sliding 3) fallen off your bike. God help you if you've got it on the front because you won't be able to stay upright and tire won't carve. And yes, the tire shows severe wear and tear after short time. Suicidal if you go rock garden riding with these in wet. I did (had no choice) and it was like watching a soap being flushed down the toilet. Definately a terrain specific tire suited only for XC riding in prepared surface, so worth considering if you intend to race XC in clean, dry conditions without too many technical terrains. Otherwise too skinny and weak for serious trail riding.

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Duration Product Used:   6 months

Purchased At:   Came with bike

Similar Products Used:   Too many to recall

Bike Setup:   GT Zaskar Expert '04, stock except with GT CNC XC wheels, XT V-brakes and Fox F100 RLT '05.

Overall Rating:2
Value Rating:3
Submitted by Scott a Cross Country Rider from Australia

Date Reviewed: November 21, 2004

Strengths:    light, roll fast

Weaknesses:    thin casing seems to puncture real easy

Bottom Line:   
These are more of a smooth trail or XC race tyre than a knock around tyre. I recently got two flats over the course of a two hour ride with one of these on the rear. The first was this tiny little splinter that went in b/w the knobs. Then at the end of my ride a stick as thick as a pencil and about an inch long went straight trough as well. They also seem to wear real quick. I have an Extreme on the front, might get one for the back too.

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Favorite Trail:   Anywhere - plenty round here

Duration Product Used:   6 months

Price Paid:    $25.00

Similar Products Used:   various

Bike Setup:   Mongoose Newman frame hardtail

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