a Cross Country Rider
Date Reviewed: April 18, 2011
Strengths: Super light weight, super strength and cushion's the ride a little due to there ability to flex and absorb. And of course the "WOW" factor from the TYE-DYE look. Very cool!
Weaknesses: Price of course, at $2.45 and up to $5.00 per spoke remind you, your ride can get pretty costly pretty fast. Limited places to purchase brings lees of a chance of getting a great deal. Tend to break more often than stainless steel but it is rare for them to so. It depends on riders weight and style of ridding.
Over all the spokes can't be beat for the cool factor and the serious amount of attention you will receive by people asking you "where do you?, what are those? and how much were they?!" You will also feel a softer ride quality from the Titanium material that the spokes are made from. But as with any and all major purchases it all comes down to the "Botton Line" (a little play on words that I thought you would enjoy) PRICE! There are many less expensive spokes as well as lighter spokes, I.E. the
DT-Swiss Revelution spokes but who uses black or silver spokes anymore? They are a great option for those who can afford to spend serious cash on what I would call a "luxury item" but if you spend it now because you can't take it with you.......
Similar Products Used: Unfortunately none, this is my first time into the high stakes game of Titanium spokes. But if you count the DTs' Revelution spokes as similar then there you go.
Bike Setup: Oh baby, if you are a weight weenie then I think you'll like this...
--Model: 1993 Serotta T-Max Custom Made
--Bottle Cage Bolts: SRP 4 grams
--Bottom Bracket: Ritchey Pro-Lite TiTanium /w Ceramic Bearing & Aluminum-Cups 108 grams
--Brake Levers: Kooka Racha's Aluminum-Hardware 89 grams
--Rear Brakes: Paul's Stoplite Aluminum-Hardware SwissStop Gr.Pads 117 grams
--Front Brakes: Paul's Stoplite Aluminum-Hardware SwissStop Gr.Pads 105 grams
--Cables: Nokon Aluminum 68 grams
--Cassette: TROTZ - TRZ 11-32 One Piece Aluminum Cassette 129 grams
--Chain: KMC X10 SL-Gold Shortend 183 grams
--Crankset: Roox XC Modified 371 grams
--Crank Bolts: SRP TiTanium 12 grams
--Ring bolts: SRP Aluminum 8 grams
--Outer Ring: Kooka 46 grams
--Middle Ring: Kooka 35 grams
--Inner Ring: Kooka 22 grams
--Derlr (Front) Shimano XTR FD-M952 Aluminum Hardware
--Derlr (Rear) Precision Billet Medium Cage w/ Ti & Aluminum Hardware 134 grams
--Fork: Pace RC-35 MXCD /w Aluminum Steerer Tube, Aluminum Bolts and Ti -Springs 961 grams
--Frame: Serotta T-Max 16.5 w/ Modifications To lessen Weight 1329 grams
--Grips: Portland Designs Speed Metal 71 grams
--Handlebar: Easton EC90 22.5" 92 grams
--Headset: KOR Aluminum /w Aluminum Roller Bearing
--Headset Cap/Bolt: Chris King Aluminum w/ Aluminum Bolt and Star Nut 9 grams
--Pedals: Aerolite TiTanium Black 35gr Each 67 grams
--Quick Releases: Only TiTanium & Aluminum Bolt On
--Seat Binder: SRP Aluminum-Bolt 2 grams
--Seat: KORE Aluminum T-RAIL Systems Modified /w Aluminum Hardware 135 grams
--Seatpost: Kore Ibeam Lite Aluminum Hardware 'Cut Down Big Time" 136 grams
--Shifters: Shimano SL-105 Levers w/ Paul's Thumbies /w Aluminum Bolts 121 grams
--Stem: KORE ELITE Anodized Aluminum Modified Along With Aluminum Bolts 159 grams
--Tire (Front) Maxxis MaxxLite 285 2.0 279 grams
--Tire (Rear): Maxxis MaxxLite 285 2.0 280 grams
--Tubes: Michelin Aircomp Latex A1 26x2.0 Presta Valves 129 grams
--Rims: SUN/RINGLE LIMELIGHT Drilled and Shaved to Save Weight "Modified" 615 grams
--Spokes: MARWI TiTanium 64 TI-DYE Spokes 249 grams
--Nipples: DT Swiss Aluminum 56 grams
--Front Hub: Hope Advance Systems TiTanium 67 grams
--Rear Hub: Hope Advance Systems TiTanium 191 gramm
TOTALS: grams: 6562 pounds: 14.47
from Philadelphia, PA, USA
Date Reviewed: February 7, 2011
Strengths: They look cool.
Weaknesses: I think Ti works better for nipples than spokes.
I like the idea of Ti spokes, but in practice I'm not sure if they're really worth the expense. I prefer steel DB spokes for the strength combined with TWT Ti nipples to save weight (while preserving strength). Titanium seems much better suited to nipples than spokes.
Similar Products Used: Titanium nipples from Titan Wheel Technologies
Bike Setup: King hub, Velocity Escape rim, Ti nipples from Titan Wheel Technologies
a Cross Country Rider
from Costa Mesa, CA
Date Reviewed: November 18, 2009
Strengths: Very light and they look cool. Titanium spokes on a mountain bike are quite bling.
Weaknesses: They break more easily and often than steel spokes. They're very expensive - 3x the price of the best steel spokes.
I've used these spokes in some wheels that I've built and gotten them in new wheels built by a hi-end custom wheel builder. They are super light as you would expect and they look ultra-cool. I can't honestly say that I can detect any specific "feel" difference from steel, other than the wheels are obviously lighter.
But too many of these spokes have broken on me in the last few years, way more than steel spokes. I ride tough singletrack and don't jump much of anything, so the wheels aren't abused. I've never broken one in a radially laced pattern - only in crossed patterns and mostly on the rear. They break at the J bend, usually at a peak load time, i.e. climbing. At 3 bucks apiece and hard to get, I've just started replacing the Ti spokes that break with good steel spokes.
Favorite Trail: If I told you, you'd ride there and I can't have that...
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Purchased At: Various
Similar Products Used: Every other spoke
Bike Setup: Wheels with these spokes in them
a Weekend Warrior
from Muskegon, Mich.
Date Reviewed: April 9, 2008
Strengths: Weight. I know not much has been written about them in a while but they are going to make a come back....
Weaknesses: Price is still the big factor.
My Wheel set is Hope Pro 2 hubs, Mavic 819 rims, and of course Marwi Gold tye spokes. At 1700 grams, they are pretty light. At 235 lbs I'm not a small guy. They haven't gone out of true or had any problems with them.
Bike Setup: 2001 S-Works Hardtail with full XTR, XTR hubs laced 3x on Mavic 517 CD rims with brass nipples
a Cross Country Rider
Date Reviewed: February 13, 2001
Strengths: Good stuff, very light, coolest looking spokes ever. Built up with light hubs and rims, results in stupid light wheel. Yes these spokes actually do have a different feel than steel spokes, just like spinergy spokes wheels feel different.
Weaknesses: Expensive, people thinking your a Hippie.
Since know one has posted anything about these spokes for two years, I thought I should reinterate how good they are. They are very good. They are a little hard to get now, but your LBS should be able to order them straight from Marwi. Yeah they are a little expensive, but if you are buying ti spokes you are an adict that spends way too much money on your bike.
For the guy who berated all of use saying that you can't feel the difference between ti spokes and steel ones, have you actually ridden them? Ti spokes will feel flexer in hard cornering and accelerating, but will give a smoother ride over all. It's your choise wether you like that feel and want to save money.
For some people, riding is a zen like experaince, and you can tell any change in a bike thus you can tell the difference in materials. Saying that Ti spokes don't feel different is like saying that a carbon frame feels no different that a steel or ti or alum or scandium frame. Thats just stupid.
But, most people don't ride like that. I own both a 9.9 and a Gt Zaskar, normal people can't tell the difference, but mountain bikes aren't normal.
Bike Setup: Trek 9.9, XMO Ti, Raceface: next lps, rings, team headset. Titec 118, Moots stem (yeah the $400 one), King hubs laced to Sun Sub IV's, Ritchey speed max, Arch Supremes, XTR: Brake Levers, Front D., XT: Cassette (XTR's wear way too fast), Sram Gemini Pro Shifters (the jury is still out on these, plasma rear d, World Class Ti BB, Time Atac Carbons
a Cross-Country Rider
Date Reviewed: October 2, 1999
Strengths: Light, smooths things out, durable.
Weaknesses: None that I can find... except, maybe, the cost...even at full retail, you get what you pay for with these titanium spokes!
I took this (road)front wheel for a demo-ride...it belonged to a friend, who owed me money. The first 20 feet of road, in front of my house, was so much smoother, with these spokes, that I immediately accepted a trade for the wheel. On a road ride with a friend, to prove a point, I switched front wheels with him. Within a few yards, he had a grin....Hey, this IS smooth! A few days later, he called me up and asked what torque settings he needed for the Marwi Ti spokes, as he'd ordered enough to build himself...and his wife...a couple of wheel sets. These spokes are noticably smoother, immediately so, on a road bike, no less! I've had the wheel over a year and the guy I got it from had it a good while and raced on it. As far as I know, it's never needed to be trued, and I have hit some pot holes. If you can afford them, two thumbs up!
Similar Products Used: Generic steel, butted and not-butted.
Bike Setup: I have these Ti-spokes on a road bike front wheel w/Campi hub and Mavic rim.
Date Reviewed: September 22, 1999
Strengths: strong, lite, makes for less rotating weight.
i've had these spokes on my old wheel set for two years now and never broke one spoke. i love them.! i'm in the process of building a new set to put on my spare obed, i wouldn't spend the money on this again if they didn't do well. they are lite and because they are lite they reduce the centrifugal force produced by the wheel in rotation....translated a lite wheel during rotation.
yes you can feel a difference. I guess some people are a little less sensitive than others. For instance, if you've ever rode mag wheels and switched to spoked wheels, or went from a lesser spoked wheel to a greater spoked wheel, you will notice a difference in flex, steering sharness, etc.
a Cross-Country Rider
from Kalama, WA
Date Reviewed: July 30, 1999
Strengths: Super light, Durable. Cheap compared to a new wheelset, cost per gram saved, and the acceleration you gain.
Weaknesses: None here.
Wanna shave 1/2 lb.+ off your wheelset? Well worth the extra cost , ride great, tune these just like all others- every month or two. (Go triple-cross, barely save enough to justify the added flex radial-lacing gives you.)
Bike Setup: Ventana MPFS(OldYeller) XTR-217, SID, Synchros, Race-face, etc.
Date Reviewed: April 6, 1999
Strengths: Extremely Light and gives a softer ride when used for the rear wheel which is nice when you are useing a rigid harsh aluminium hard-tail
These are a quality investment for numerous reasons. 1) They are the lightest spoke on the market and the weight that you are saving is on the most importiant part of the bicycle, the wheels ( less rotating weight means faster accelleration) 2) If used on the rear wheel thay will soften your ride noticeably (My first bike was a Cannondale that was entirely too stiff for my lowerback and would constantly give me a pain that would on occasion shorten my rides these spokes helped aliveiate the problem) 3) The ti-dye spokes look dam cool. I have now built two sets of wheels useing these spokes and I do believe thay are ideal for the rear wheel, thew allow a little vertical flex but do not flex noticeably under torque. They also seem to be perfect when they are used for the front wheel when they are radial laced. When they are built using a three cross pattern thay are a little flexy lateraly.
Bike Setup: Cannondale Cad 3/Fatty SL Trek 9900/SID SL
from Lebanon, New Hampshire
Date Reviewed: November 10, 1998
Built a set using the ti-dye spokes. Wheels are as light as mountain bike wheels get, and for the price, cheaper than the heavier counterparts. They are incredibly stiff and strong. I very rarely have to true up these wheels. I've done every type of terrain and even trials riding on these wheels and they are still true, round, and alive to tell the story.
a cross-country rider
Date Reviewed: October 1, 1998
I built up a set of wheels using Chris King hubs, 517s and Ti spokes and they were increadibly lite. I shaved about a pound off of my bike with these wheels. I bought the spokes because I wanted the best and the litest. Well they are the litest. As far as the best, well they're a little brittle, I have broken 3 on the rear. They were on the non-drive side so it wasn't from the chain falling into the wheel. I have had no problem on the front wheel and the wheels have stayed remarkably true with only a minor tweak here and there. Some credit for weight savings must go to Chris King and Mavic. Over all, if you have extra money and want a kool set of hoops, they're not bad. They are liter than CrossMaxs and cheaper as well.
a cross-country rider
Date Reviewed: September 3, 1998
Bought Matrix rims, CK hubs and Marwi Titanium spokes, put it together and ended up with one of the lightest wheelsets available in ths world. Stronger and better than the famous Crossmax that also are overpriced. (not that price really matters). I have been giving these wheels very rough treatment for the last year and have not touched them since i put them on my Mantra. For a rider that rides rough terrain i can recomend them.
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