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MK
a All Mountain RiderDate Reviewed: May 16, 2012
Strengths: PriceWeaknesses: StrengthBottom Line: This thing is terrible. I taco'ed 2 of these in less than a month. The first one I rode for about 10 months, the second one, two rides.
The first "taco" was on a downhill section of an AM trail. Where it happened, there were no turns and no rocks. I still can't figure out how it happened, but caused me to mess up my rear derailleur and cranks when my bike tumbled into a tree. It taco'ed so abruptly, I went over the bars because it locked up the wheel.
The second one is what convinced me this thing is junk. I was on a section of trail that spanned between two sections of a paved trail that we use to access the ride. It's 30 feet long. At the transition from dirt to paved, wheel locked up and sent me over the bars (I wasn't going fast, so it was slow-mo). Got up all wtf and found my wheel in the classic taco shape.
There is no way this is a trail/AM wheel. I now use Stans Flow and have had zero problems. Oh and did I mention I'm only 150 lbs?
Favorite Trail: Mount Kessler
Bike Setup: Giant Reign: Race Face, Stan's, Sram xo/x9, Fox shocks
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lts builder
a Weekend Warrior
from ukDate Reviewed: August 6, 2011
Strengths: strong light ish and they look ok to (not in your face).
rim beed is a good thing and a major strength (wen running tubless) but also their biggest weekness as they are really hard to seat.
Weaknesses: the rim beed, ( take out your valve core and run a dribble of fairy liquid (any dish wash liquid) all the way round the tyre and rim beed. then as you pump the tyre ensure the beed seats on both sides oposite the valve. do not worry about the rest, once thats on you will notice probably that both side are seatd by the valve as well so you 2 oposite point that the tyre is seated, now pump like a madman! the tyre will seat when u get to arround 40-60 psi. i had problems with these but this works for me every time.Bottom Line: good rims dispite the problems with seating tyres. iv trashed a few tubes tryin to get these to seat as the constant movement of the pump combined with the heat from compresion and the high pressures needed have made week tubes blow the valves. bottom line go tubeless use stans or similar. you can get these well cheap second hand. just three chilis tho because there not with out issue.
Favorite Trail: narlyest i can find
Duration Product Used: 3 months
Price Paid:
$45.00
Purchased At: ebay for a song just
Similar Products Used: halo mavic
Bike Setup: GT LTS DS, shox delux rear shock, epicon 100-140mm remoteT forks, skeletal breaks f/r, wtb laser disk wheels, x7 shifters, firex crank, xo mech, pc990 casset & crosstep chain. easton post & bars, aka stem, tyres- continental vapor (rear) wobler (front
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cesalec
a Weekend Warrior
from Mexic / AustriaDate Reviewed: June 29, 2011
Strengths: apparently light, fairly maintenance free, 3 years of bashing on them and they have never been trued, no spokes have been loosened and they have almost null scratches , absolutelly null dings, or flat spots. Tires seat secure enough.Weaknesses: Their design (graphic) is sooooo boring, hubs could be better, perhaps with a hope hub these would rock. It isnt that easy to install the tires on them, I mean make them pop.Bottom Line: I cannot comment on the price, these came stock with my 2008 Giant Reign 0. I am not a smooth rider, I am not very good at riding, and I suppose I have a couple of times forgotten the tire pressure was to low.
I ride All Mountain, I get aggressive when I can, and I somtimes ride the DH tracks (havent done any of the big drops or ramps, I dont think my bike is made to stand that abuse) but these wheels are so far almost new!
planning on changing the wheelset for pure looks
Favorite Trail: Some around Innsbruck
Duration Product Used: More than 3 years
Purchased At: came stock with the
Similar Products Used: All Mountain rims, hmm none.
Bike Setup: stock, except for the tires... after riding Nevegals, and Minions now I am Schwalbe all the way.
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LuckyTHlRT33N
a Cross Country Rider
from Springfield, MODate Reviewed: June 12, 2011
Strengths: Fairly LightBottom Line: These wheels from my experience with the 26" version are great, light, strong, no complaints, except for when I tried to mount Kenda Nevegal non-UST tires on there. I have a feeling that these tires are not made to spec, as I have read others problems getting this tire's bead to seat on this rim. Putting the tire on by putting the bead in the center of the rim is ok, but once you get it on, I could not for the life of me get it to slip into the bead seat of the wheel. I tried using tire spoons to finagle the tire bead up on the outside portion of the rim, but it is waaaay to tight. I've broken 3 tough kydex tire spoons, and ruined a inner tube trying to get the tire's bead to seat. All this and I haven't even tried to get this to run tubeless and seat it.
Favorite Trail: Little Sac
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$250.00
Purchased At: Online Retailer/Whol
Similar Products Used: LaserDisc 26"
Bike Setup: Hifi Pro, LaserDisc Rims, Kenda Nevegal 2.2 non-UST
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Geth
a Cross Country Rider
from UKDate Reviewed: October 5, 2010
Bottom Line: What can I say......?
I've just put in my 4th inner tube in just two rides.
I hadn't had a puncture for a loooong time then this happens.
There is a MAJOR problem with the seating ledge in the rim.
No matter how much fumbling about I seem to do to get the tyre to seat properly it just isn't happening. That's using a track pump at home and a small pump on rides.
My view is that the inner tube is either getting slightly trapped between the tyre bead & the STUPID lip on the on the seating ledge in the rim.
It holds for a while.... then....PSSSSSSSSSSSS. Down she goes.
New rims will be on order in the morning....
Duration Product Used: 2 Years
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ag
a Cross Country Rider
from Ashland, OR, USDate Reviewed: July 13, 2010
Strengths: sexyWeaknesses: can't keep tubes inflatedBottom Line: I get flats every 50 miles. I can't keep air in the tires. I'm on my third set of tires. I have 20 tubes in my garage that have slow leaks. I just finished the Cascade Cream Puff, but had two flats (rear then front). We're not talking pinch flats, thorns, nails or punctures, just slow leaks. I have two thick layers of rim tape and still get flats. If you know why let me know. If you want to buy these things off of me let me know. They are barely 1 year old and have 1000 miles on them.
Favorite Trail: out my back door
Duration Product Used: 1 Year
Similar Products Used: mavic, sun
Bike Setup: 2009 ventana, el saltamontes
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ep-gnar
a Cross Country Rider
from missoula USADate Reviewed: April 25, 2010
Strengths: lightweight for a rim this wide
bead seats FIRMLYWeaknesses: bead seats FIRMLY
not very strongBottom Line: I've never had an issue getting tires on or off the rims (work the bead into the low spot in the middle of the rim, like with most rims), but getting the bead to seat fully is a pain the ass. There is a little rib in the bed of the rim that makes it so. I've been inflating the tires to 60psi and working the tire side to side. Haven't gotten many flats (knock on wood) with these, but if I did, I wouldn't bother seating the bead until I got back to my floor pump.
That said, these rims will hold your tire tight and they're fairly wide, so they're good for running fat tires at low pressure. They're about as light as you can get for a rim that width.
Bottom line is they're an good rim for trail-riding if you get a good deal, but look at stans flow or dt 520 are the same price, size and weight without the bead-seating issue, afaik.
Favorite Trail: changes weekly
Duration Product Used: 1 Year
Price Paid:
$99999999.00
Purchased At: mtbr classifieds
Similar Products Used: mavic 721's
Bike Setup: 08 trance x with a lyrik u-turn on the front.
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sknsnw9
a Weekend Warrior
from BendDate Reviewed: April 7, 2010
Strengths: Stayed trued after riding through some rough terrain but one bad hit will bend it.Weaknesses: I'm light, 160 lbs and I bent this rim sideways when I was going high speed through the rock garden and smashed at a pointy rock.Bottom Line: This would be rims would be fine for the easy riders, but if you are going to ride hard, I would suggest finding new rims or at least wait till this one breaks. I will probably get one of the mavics.
Favorite Trail: all in Central Oregon
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Purchased At: hutches
Bike Setup: 09 Giant trance x2
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ADI
a Weekend Warrior
from ISRAELDate Reviewed: March 20, 2010
Strengths: LOOKS GOOD , strong dependable structure.Weaknesses: hard to change tyresBottom Line: in use for more then 1.5 years with aggresive use + my weight is 230 pound , and no signs of any problem.
Duration Product Used: 1 Year
Similar Products Used: mavic 317.
Bike Setup: mongoose super teucali 2008 , fox talas rlc 2009
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seann
a Weekend Warrior
from Seattle, WADate Reviewed: November 29, 2009
Strengths: durable, decent weightWeaknesses: none foundBottom Line: Not sure why others have problems with these, I weigh 225 and ride pretty hard. This includes jumping and all mountain use. Wheels have stayed as true as expected and my nevegals can be installed by hand in a matter of seconds. I build my own wheels and will be using the same rims for my next set (better hubs).
Duration Product Used: 1 Year
Similar Products Used: mavic, dt
Bike Setup: 5" travel full suspension
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aGo
a Weekend Warrior
from AZDate Reviewed: November 25, 2009
Strengths: n/aWeaknesses: n/aBottom Line: I’m only posting for informational purposes. Got the new bike home after the shop installed thorn resistant tubes and noticed a wobble in both tires.
Couldn’t get the tire to sead properly, took it back to the shop and watched from a distance while he sprayed it with windex & muscled it in.
Road over a field of goat heads, then it was time dethorn the tires. I’ve been changing tires for 30 yrs and this one was not going on, after 40 mins & bloodied knuckles I throw in the towel.
Took it back to the shop, watched the veins in his neck protrude getting the tire back on, then resorted to a steel tire spoon, still would not sead properly again.
That was it for me for I will never be able to fix a flat on the trail with this tire. Went to another shop pull the FireXCpro 26 x 2.10 off the shelve and slipped it right one, ever so happy. Not sure if the Kenda was defected or what, happy trails
Favorite Trail: Anywhere fun
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Similar Products Used: n/a
Bike Setup: Giant Trance X3 2009 stocked. Kenda Nevegal 26 x 2.10, 120 casing dual tread compound tires.
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bktrailrider
a Weekend Warrior
from phoenix, az, usaDate Reviewed: October 11, 2009
Strengths: Value, strengthWeaknesses: could be lighter.
Because of the deep center channel, I initially had issues with the rim strip slicing tubes, nothing switching to a new rim strip wouldn't handle. I'm running ghetto tubeless now.Bottom Line: Bought this rim to replace the Mavic's on my trail bike. I got them cause I wasn't trying to sink a lot of cash into a new wheel. Stiff, Semi-light, and won't break the bank..
Favorite Trail: south mtn
Duration Product Used: 6 months
Purchased At: Internet
Similar Products Used: mavic, sun rims
Bike Setup: mounted on XT Hub
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jSatch
a Weekend Warrior
from San DiegoDate Reviewed: August 27, 2009
Strengths: Good strong rim for intended purpose and weightWeaknesses: Difficult to Ghetto Tubeless
ExpensiveBottom Line: I don't understand the last poster as I've had more trouble getting tires on a Mavic rim than this one. No tools required for either 2.35 Kenda Nevegals or Maxxis High Rollers.
The downside is that even with a split inner tube to go Ghetto tubeless, the tire is still not really tight and pretty difficult to get to seal going with a floor pump.
These rims are quite strong for the weight and don't bend or ding easily. I'd always have to true my Mavics, and I've heard DT rims pretty soft, not so with these. But don't confuse these with the (junk) SpeedDisc rims. I don't know about unbendium bulge or ibeam for marketing purposes, but these are worth the money, the SpeedDiscs, I don't think so.
A real sleeper.
Favorite Trail: Tunnels
Duration Product Used: 2 Years
Similar Products Used: Mavic
Bike Setup: Santa Cruz Heckler
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Michal
a Weekend Warrior
from PolandDate Reviewed: August 7, 2009
Strengths: none, just a rim....Weaknesses: It’s next to impossible to fit a tire on this rim. This renders it as a useless piece of metal.Bottom Line: Get a mavic, don’t waste your time. It you manage to get a tire on this rim than on the trail if you puncture your tube you will be walking home.
Favorite Trail: Beskid Maly
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Bike Setup: Giant Reign 1
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ELLIOT
a Weekend Warrior
from W,SussexDate Reviewed: November 16, 2007
Strengths: Much stronger than the cross country version. It’s not silver like some other WTB rims. It felt strong and controlled on heavy rocky sections. It spins very fast and for a long time, which I suppose is more to do with the hubs. It also spins straight unlike some other rims.Weaknesses: None.Bottom Line: I would recommend this product to any XC or Trail riders because its such good value. Also it’s made by WTB which I think is a really cool company.
Favorite Trail: All of Surrey
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$2800.00
Purchased At: Nirvana
Similar Products Used: Mavic, DT Swiss X430
Bike Setup: Giant Trance X2 2008 with full XT, the rest is stock. DT Swiss 370 hubs.
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