Weaknesses: The welding tabs in rim broke loose. This makes a very annoying sound.
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The Mavic 517 rims on my bike and my girlfriend's bike (4 rims in total) have all had the welding tabs inside the rim break loose. These tabs are used to dissipate heat during the welding process and can not be removed after they break loose. They are in there for good. Although I have been told by Mavic this does not pose a safety issue, it is highly annoying. The wheels now make a Hula Hoop sound as they roll. (If I were Mavic, I would not want my name on a product with such an obvious flaw.) The only solution so far is to either drip contact cement into the rim to glue the tab in place or rebuild the wheels at a cost of about $230 each (new rims, spokes, spoke nipples, and labor) with no guarantee it will not happen again. After spending good money on new wheels, the thought of needing glue or rebuilding the wheels again to correct a noise problem is unacceptable since the problem started almost immediately after the wheels were built. (BTW, all miles on the rims have been road miles.) Before you spend money on a new set of wheels, make sure you know what you are buying. You could be throwing good money out the window and getting a Hula Hoop sound in your wheels. As a result of all four of the rims having the same inexcusable problem, I give the Mavic 517 rims a 0 rating.
Bike Setup: Ted Wojcik, King Hubs, XT, Michelin Rock Tires
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Submitted by
Rondo
a Downhiller
from New Zealand
Date Reviewed: January 21, 2007
Strengths: Light, never had to true it, looks cool, excellent braking surface
Weaknesses: None I have encountered
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I'm unsure why these dudes have to keep truing their wheels, perhaps it's the rim/hub/spoke combination used? I have no idea, but I have since, completely snapped my frame by riding wheel/head first into a gorse bush and the wheel came out beautifully.
I ride like a madman on my XC bike, as I am really into DH - until my lovely plush 6" F/R travel bike with D321s and big "Don't Argue" 2.5's, got stolen **sobs...**. Anyway, I ride fast down the hill and I aint really that great at it, hence the snapped frame. So this rim (front only) has taken a hell pounding and still as tight as the day I got it.
Similar Products Used: Mavic D321's, WTB standard (oem) mtb wheels
Bike Setup: Giant ATX870 with this rim laced to a Machine Tech Front hub, WTB rear, Judy T2 forks, LX brakes, levers, pods, rear derailleur, STX-RC front derailleur, No name stem, flat bars, Wellgo clipless platform pedals,
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Submitted by
Fred
a Cross Country Rider
from over here
Date Reviewed: November 14, 2006
Strengths: Light weight,narrow profile, holds tires great, even with notubes conversion. I bought these built with XTR hubs and double butted spokes about four years ago and only need to check tension, about every six months. I am 195lbs and use these to train and race with. These are XC rims and work excellent for that purpose. Not designed for 6' drops or being beat with rocks, there are better rims for that.
Similar Products Used: I've had these so long I don't remember what they replaced.
Bike Setup: Hardtail frame set up for XC racing, it gets used alot.
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Submitted by
Fred Sled
a Weekend Warrior
from Spawn Ranch, CA
Date Reviewed: July 14, 2005
Strengths: Strong, super light. Welded, with machined breaking surface.
Weaknesses: None so far
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These are XC rims, they are really light and strong for that use. I've had the same wheelset on two different bikes over a 2 year span and only trued them twice, considering I jump, and ride over everything, and tip the scaled at 200lbs, these rims have impressed me. I purchased them with XT hubs and standard spokes, rode em for a while and rebuilt them with butted spokes and White Industries hubs, the rims are great, I dig em. One other point, they are thin in profile, and for whever reason that makes the V-brakes work excellent.
Similar Products Used: Sun CR18, Rhynolite, Rhynolite XL, Alex, Araya
Bike Setup: Jamis XC pro
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Ron
a Cross Country Rider
from PNW
Date Reviewed: April 29, 2005
Strengths: I bought this rim as a regular replacement for my old rims. I've had this rim on my bike for ~2+ years now. Up until 2 days ago, the only problems I had with these rims was that they needed to be trued more than the 717 rim I run up front
Weaknesses: Well, to be honest, this rim served me well. in all sorts of conditions. I commute to work with it regularly, where that are a few curb jumps. I did have a flat recently, and when I inspected the rim I notice stress fractures in many places where the spokes seat. This was the first time I've ever had a rim with that many stress fractures. On the other hand, I was riding it in that condition for a while, and it didn't break!
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Although I was disappointed upon discovering the recent condition of this rim, I did manage to get 3 or so years (less than 5) out of them before they needed replacing. Not too shabby. On the other hand, my 717 up front is 6 months newer than my old 517, and it's only needed to be trued twice, and the rim still is in great shape. So Overall, I got my money's worth out of this rim, but the 717 has held up much, much better. The 517 might be a good choice for a racer who has to replace anything every 2 years or so anyway. It needed to be trued a lot more than other rims I've had, but honestly how painful is that? Not hard at all.
Similar Products Used: I've had many rims on my bike. They go fast enough that I couldn't remember all of them well enough for any meaningful comparison.
Submitted by
Scott
a Weekend Warrior
from Raleigh, NC
Date Reviewed: April 13, 2005
Strengths: they are light, I can throw them really far and that's about all they are good for.
Weaknesses: Your brakes will put SEVERE grooves in the braking surface, they are very weak, customer support at Mavic is not a concern, they don't stay true for very long even if you only ride on the street. The stickers fall off or look like trask after one or two rides in the rain. They cost too much. Oh yeah like the other guy said don't run too high air pressure or you will get to hear this funny noise right before your rim stops on the brakes because it just split-WHAT FUN!!!! Yippee!!!!!!!!
Bottom Line:
If you like getting practice truing rims, sanding your braking surfaces to repair them, and spending money to replace split rims then buy these rims. If you don't like to ride, buy these rims. If you like buying extra nipples and spokes to replace any that you damage from adjusting these rims from truing them over and over and over and over and over, hook youself up. I rode these on the ROAD. I had these things on my commuter bike and I occasionally crossed a gravel parking lot, once or twice I hopped off a 6" curb. If you also do these things or heaven forbid a decent drop-DON'T BUY THESE RIMS! Mavic doesn't care about you. They only want your money. By the way if you already have these rims or for some reason you don't listen to my advice and still buy a set, remember my warnings when you hear the rim split while you are cruising along and one of your wheels stop rotating- for your sake I hope it's the rear or you will fly. If I could leave no chilis I would.
Similar Products Used: I slipped in dog pooh, does that count?
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Dan
a Cross Country Rider
from Prescott, AZ, USA
Date Reviewed: November 11, 2004
Strengths: Light, looks nice, stays true
Weaknesses: Rim split apart after 2,500 miles of loaded off-road touring
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Great for regular cross country riding but not durable enough for off road loaded touring with a psi above 55psi. Mavic needs to make more of an effort to let the customer (and bike shop owners) know the psi ratings on their rims Here's the story: I swapped the rolf satellites for the Mavic 517's (with XT hubs and 32 DT spokes)for greater servicability and a higher spoke count to ride the Great Divide Mt. Bike Route from Mexico to Canada. After 2,500 miles in northern Montana I noticed the side of the the rear rim starting to bend out which caused the brakes to rub on it. 85 miles later at the next bike shop the rim was inspected and it had a crack in the middle of the rim under the rim stip the whole way around the rim. The bike mechanic said Mavic mt. bike rims had a psi rating but Mavic didn't go out of their way to let the customer know this. I used a Specialized Armadillo Crossroads tire that had a max psi rating of 85. I ran them at 80 psi. It turns out that the mavic 517 rims have a psi rating of 55 (for a 26 X 2.0 tire). My local bike shop and many others I've since talked to did not know about this max psi rating on mavic's mt. bike rims. Had I known I would have kept the psi lower or purchased a heavier duty rim. Under normal off road biking you never go over 55 psi anyway but for loaded touring on rough dirt roads the highre psi helps. Mavic obviously did nothing about the cracked rim. I replaced the cracked rim in Kalispel MT with a Sun Rhyno Lite in Kalispel MT and haven't had any more problems.
Similar Products Used: Rolf Satellites on Mt. bike Mavic Heliums on road bike Sun Rhyno Lite rims (replaced the Mavic X517)
Bike Setup: `00 Trek 8000
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Chris B
a Cross Country Rider
from New Zealand
Date Reviewed: September 21, 2004
Strengths: Light, strong.
Weaknesses: None so far
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Nice rim, built the wheel up myself with the help of a friend. Running butted wheelsmith spokes (couldnt get DT when I went to the shop, so I had to use these).
It is a super light wheel and very strong. It is on a fully rigid bike that does some rough trails.
I have ridden it weighing up to 85kg + a 3Kg battery on my back, so Im not one of those 140 lb xc riders ... this rim is plenty strong enough.
Bike Setup: XC fully rigid single speed running a 517 on the front, laced in a three cross to a Chris King hub. Using V'brakes.
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Submitted by
ozrules
a Cross Country Rider
from san diego ca,/melb aus
Date Reviewed: August 1, 2004
Strengths: Great front wheel
Weaknesses: Rear wheels don't stay around long enough to know
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Light and cheap. Do an XTR hub up front, because a 517 up there will last forever. Just an XT hub for the rear, because a hard-tail chews 'em up and spits 'em out in a 24 hour race.
And can I say thank you Performance, the Walmart of Bike stores. Locate a bargain on BicycleBuys.com, print it out, buy it, and get 10% back. How else could you ride and live in San Diego?
Bike Setup: every high-end close-out on sale price matched at Performance
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Submitted by
tyler
a Cross Country Rider
from pacific grove, CA
Date Reviewed: July 22, 2004
Strengths: fast, durable, true. my bike + xtracycle weighs about 45 lbs. and these rims have put up with a lot of abuse, around town crashing into things, singletrack, daily commuting, and all of this with at least 20 - 30 lbs. of gear in the xtracycle. i didn't expect the rim to hold out with so much weight over it constantly, but it has. i've even smashed into a rut with a flat tire (pinchflat from the rut before it) and flipped the bike over, but the front rim is still true. it must also be mentioned that these wheels (purchased as a wheelset with XT hubs) have enabled me to keep pace with some pretty speedy road cyclists on the california AIDS ride. they are all around great rims.
Weaknesses: sticker came off during the first day.
Bottom Line:
they aren't bombproof. as long as you're not trying to use them as freestyle rims, you shouldn't have any problem.
Favorite Trail: through someone's private property in a no tresspassing area
Duration Product Used: 3 months
Purchased At: $150
Similar Products Used: WTB, rhyno lite
Bike Setup: 1998 leadhopper - no suspension, XTRACYCLE, mavic 517s + XT hubs, hollowtech cranks, avid 7 brakeset, deore RD, ultegra cassette & chainrings, and the rest is stock from 1998
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Submitted by
Nicholas Goh
a Weekend Warrior
from Singapore
Date Reviewed: June 24, 2004
Strengths: light i guess
Weaknesses: not too strong
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got them for a steal at $50 a pair. i enjoy riding down long flights of stairs and i'm always looking for places to drop off (nothing too high though, say 2 feet tops?). the 517 on my rear went out of true a long time ago. i guess it's my own fault though, cos i was never built with the intention of having it's owner charge down stairs. not a negative rating, just a mention. the front wheel's ok though.
Strengths: I have a pair of x517 CD. Looks good and light. Stay ture.
Weaknesses: Rim wears out like butter.
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I am only 150lbs and never ride hard, so the rims stay true. The break pads wears out rims like butter. I change a few differ brake pads, same result. With less than 800 miles, there already deep grooves on the rims from the brake pads. Not worth the money.
Submitted by
David Giessel
a Cross Country Rider
from Anchorage, AK, USA
Date Reviewed: April 25, 2004
Strengths: Light, true, strong
Weaknesses: It's not a downhill rim...don't drop big stuff or slam curbs and expect it to come out unscathed.
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My first wheelset was the Matrix Swami 32 hole wheels built around LX hubs on my 96 Y11. Brass nips, 14 guage spokes, 3 cross front and rear...I weighed about 95 lbs when I bought that bike and the wheels would still get tweaked...but they were pretty light.
I decided to "throw down" and have a real set of wheels built for my Mantra (after dumping the horrible Y frame) as it was pretty "tricked out" anyway.
The wheelset was buiilt as follows: Mavic x517 28 hole rims (non ceramic) Alloy nips 15-17 double butted stainless spokes King "classic" hubs Radial front, Radial non drive rear, 2 cross rear drive side
I was still ~ 100 lbs at the time...so I took the liberty to add some holes to the inner wall of the rims. I put 2 holes between each spoke nipple hole on the front rim and 1 hole between each spoke nipple hole on the rear rim. The overall weights came out to something like 596 grams for the front and 785 for the rear. It was absolutely absurd...and holy crap were they fast. They stayed true until I got up to about 140 lbs (~2 years). At that point I began riding "bigger" stuff and going a lot faster...so they got flat spotted pretty severely.
I had the wheelset re laced in exactly the same manner with some non "modded" 517s at that time (2 years ago). Since then I've grown a fair amount and weigh about 175...so I'm actually loading them pretty hard (I take the AD-10 and Psylo to their bump stops pretty regularly). I've only had to true the rear wheel once hoever. Note that even without the extra holes, this wheelset is lighter than the Crossmax SL...If I can ever get these rims to die I'll have to put some 717s on and drop a few more grams.
Bike Setup: Klein Mantra frame (97), Cane Creek AD-10 rear shock, RockShox Psylo SL, Full XTR (M950), King headset, Specialized thermoplastic handlebar, blah blah blah.
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Submitted by
Paul St.laurent
a Weekend Warrior
from Winnipeg Canada
Date Reviewed: April 15, 2004
Strengths: Very light. Nice looking.
Weaknesses: None so far
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I have used this rim with 14/16 gauge spokes on my front wheel only.I don't downhill,just Lite cross country and commuting. No problems with rim. I have used this rim for 4 years now. If you don't ride real hard, this is a great rim to save weight.
Strengths: Very light durable brake surface eyelets no bump in breaking where rim is joined stay relatively true...
Weaknesses: ...until the back wheel suddenly tacos pretty expensive
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The front wheel is awesome!! I reccomend it highly. I only weigh 135 pounds, and I managed to taco the back wheel on smooth singletrack. Dont get the back wheel. IT IS EVIL!! I had them built with 14/15 spokes, alloy nipples, and XT hubs. THE 1 TURD IS FOR THE BACK WHEEL, THE FRONT IS A FOUR AND A HALF.