Similar Products Used: Lots of Mavic rims, some Sun and Wolber.
Bike Setup: Rocky Mountain Blizzard with Shimano XT disk front and Magura
rim brake with ceramic pads rear.
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Humpje
a Racer
from Holland
Date Reviewed: December 19, 2005
Strengths: Brakes everytime, all the time. Stays quite true. Does not care about weather or conditions.
Weaknesses: Noisy, especially in mud and wet sand.
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With these rims, i see absolutely no need for disc brakes. more braking power seems not possible, so why bother. Only thing i could do without is the noise but that's a small price to pay. These rims are ideal for those who want to stick with v-brakes but want disc brake power.
Bike Setup: heavily rebuilt Giant Terrago, XT, XTR.
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Justin
a Weekend Warrior
from Farnham
Date Reviewed: May 5, 2005
Strengths: Super rims, but main problem is that the ceramic coating wears off quickly if you ride in the sort of gritty places where you think you might actually need the Ceramic. - Is it worth the extra?
Weaknesses: I use my bike only for commuting to work off road, ~ 10 miles a day. I ride in gritty Surrey Hills. The ceramic on my rims is wearing out (skid marks and small pockmarks all over them now where the alloy is showing through), after only 4 months (ie, ~ 800 miles) of gently rolling terrain. I touch my brakes for a few seconds only each day
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Ordinary rims wear out where I ride in 1 year, these might last me 18 months. Is it worth the extra?
Similar Products Used: Various non ceramic Mavic rims. Longest any one has lasted in our gritty area is 1 year ~ 2500 miles. (Hence last time I chose Ceramic).
Bike Setup: Hardtail MTB with well set up parallel movement XT cartridge shoes. (My ceramic specific shoes wore out in the first 300 miles), so now I'm using standard XT shoes.
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Nick
a Cross Country Rider
from Plianfield, IL, USA
Date Reviewed: March 12, 2005
Strengths: Stays atraight as an arrow for ever. 1800+ miles solid trails , never needed truing. Best perfoming wheelset I have ever used.
Weaknesses: snow+zero braking
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Superior product to all others. Not too much more than comparable product, spend the extra $$, its worth it, beleive me
Bike Setup: Rock Mountain frame, Sram XO, Easton wherever they make the parts, Maxxis tires, fox rear, Marz Bomber front
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Andrew Holliday
a Cross Country Rider
from Baden,Switzerland
Date Reviewed: July 8, 2004
Strengths: Light, strong and really durable. After 4 years of hard and gritty use the coating on the rear rim is finally going.Probably because I use alot of trailing rear brake. Slight rim buckles haven't given me worries about the coating. My first Alu rims were paper thin after 18months.
Weaknesses: Only big side impacts from rocks may chip the coating but that has only happened once and not the rims fault!! Word of warning - don't use the set up in winter snow = no stopping power from the brakes
Bottom Line:
So good I'm buying another rim and sticking with V-power. Oh and ceramic rim stoppers are ALWAYS GRABBY.
Similar Products Used: Standard metal rims from Specialised.
Bike Setup: XTR V's with XTR ceramic pads. Aluminium frame bike with all up weight of 10.5Kg. Schmolke flat bar. Rock Shock SID XC forks.
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Thomas Essick
a Racer
from Kindsbach, Germany
Date Reviewed: February 24, 2004
Strengths: Stops rim sidewall wear and my Magura Ceramic pads will last for over 1 year (about 15,000km on this bike for training)!
Weaknesses: As a front wheel, this rim is great. Rear wheel durability becomes an issue though. Cracks form around eyelets, separation just above the ceramic surface, and cracks develope around the inner wall between the nipple access holes. Braking is less reliable than standard rims with regular brake pads. Sometimes there seems to be no braking at all, then brake "grab" 5 seconds later.
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I'd use this rim for a front wheel any day! But this is the second X517 rear rim I've destroyed. The ceramic surface is fine, but on the first rim the drive side eyelets developed cracks and pulled out of the rim. The second rim separated about 2mm above the ceramic surface (on the angled area going towards the eyelets). This time I was pissed at paying such a high price for a rim, and decided to re-lace the wheel, with the damaged part of the rim now on the non-drive side (less tension), and anchored the spokes in the damaged area directly to the outer box section of the rim (just under the rim strip). Finally "retired" the rim after noticing cracks 1/4 around the rim where the nipple access area is (again just under the rim strip). OK, in all fairness, the rim made it a total of about 20 months and 20,000km in all conditions, plus hauling around a loaded BOB Yak trailer once per week and my 175 pound arse! I'm hoping the Mavic X721 ceramic will be a little more durable. If you are a light weight and ride in muddy, sandy conditions and replace brake pads once a month or sooner, then this is the rim for you!
Similar Products Used: Trek Matrix rims (the only rim I've seen crack like Mavic X517's), Vuelta, other Mavic.
Bike Setup: KHS soft tail, Pace shock, everything else is LX quality to allow for "cheap" replacement as things wear out (it is just a commuter bike)
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AL Mandell
a Cross Country Rider
from Norwich, NY, USA
Date Reviewed: June 9, 2003
Strengths: Good rim, great braking in the wet, wouldn't use anything else
Weaknesses: None
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The Mavic ceramic rim is the best rim out there period. The braking in wet/snowy/muddy terrain is excellent. I have used 1st generation Mavics, and the Bontrager rim (Mavic lasted much longer) and am convinced that no rim offers the wet weather braking that this one does. I ride 2000 miles/yr on WET, MUDDY, ROOTY, ROCKY upstate NY hiking trails and the Mavic ceramic can stop your wheel whenever you need it to. For those who find the rim gums up with pad/trail residue and the braking fades, simply clean your rims with soap and water & you'll be fine. A little scotch brite twice a season and they'll work like new.
Bike Setup: Moots YBB, Avid Arch supreme, RF cranks, etc
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Jeff Hatch
a Cross Country Rider
from Guilford, CT, USA
Date Reviewed: April 11, 2003
Strengths: Unbelievable resiliance-I did a 4 Ft drop and landed too far on the front wheel, taco'd it. I got it reasonbly straight on the trail and did the drop again. When i went home, somehow i got it perfectly true with all of the spokes tight. It was at least 4 inches out of true after the fall.
Weaknesses: The ceramic coating slicks up and is a pain in the ass to clean. Other than that nothing.
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This product kicks ass! It is well worth the cash! When the braking surface is nice and clean, it brakes just about as well as disc brakes! Incredible! Bravo and 3 cheers for mavic! The only person that i wouldn't recomend this product to is the hardcore freerider and downhiller. I have downhilled at mt. snow twice on these rims, and i kept up with a guy that placed second in the beginner class on a freeride rig, and the rims held up just fine-didn't even have to true them!
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Rico
a Cross Country Rider
from Angwin, CA 94508
Date Reviewed: August 19, 2001
Strengths: Front rim has held up just fine.
Weaknesses: Braking surface doesn't seem nearly as powerful as the Bontrager ceramic coating
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After 2100 miles of riding I would rate this as only an average rim for me. I built up a wheelset 14 months ago with a Valiant rear and the Mavic front because I couldn't find and Valiant front rims anywhere. The Bontrager has significantly more braking power than the Mavic from my experience, I think because the ceramic coating is coarser than Mavic's. I'm not impressed with the rim, but it has held up and stayed true. But of course 4 inches of front suspension would keep most anything true. However I would get a Valiant any day if only I could find one. As it seems that all ceramic rims do, this one has gunked up, even with ceramic specific pads and it seems to decrease braking performance. Maybe I'll pull out the steel wool.
Sorry folks. If you read my review directly below, you'll see my maintenance routine for these rims. Well, I'm having some trouble with these rims at the moment. Possibly caused by my cleaning system.
So, as the man says, don't try this at home, kids. For now.
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Kevin
a Cross Country Rider
from Los Angeles, CA
Date Reviewed: July 18, 2001
Strengths: Works well. Stays true. Looks good. Costs the same as similar products from other companies.
Weaknesses: No info provided by Mavic re: maintenance. No maintenance info or customer service contact info on Mavic website. Had to figure out the brake suface cleaning thing on my own (see below).
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I really like these rims. I had them trued once (slightly) after break in. Since then they've held their true nicely. They brake better than non-coated rims and do away with the gronching noise my standard aluminum rims used to make under braking. The Mavic stickers come off pretty easily (oh well).
Re: the brake fade. the ceramic braking surface does get dirty, and braking performance falls off dramatically. Here's the cure: 1. Go get a Scotchbrite pad (I like the green ones) from the hardware store. 2. Cut two strips to fit underneath your brake pads. 3. Adjust some slack into your brake cable and sandwich the scotchbrite between the brake pad and the brake surface of the rim. (Do this procedure one wheel at a time so you retain useful brakes at one end of the bike). 4. Wet the scotchbrite pads with simple green. 5. Ride the bike while applying the brakes on the wheel you're cleaning. Go about 100 yards or so. 6. Remove the wheel and clean off the soap and residue with a hose (just trickling, no pressure) and a scrub brush. 7. Enjoy your rejuvenated braking performance.
I have used both the Shimano and Kool Stop pads with good results. I'll be trying the WTC abrasive pads and will let you know if anything exciting happens. I would give 5 chilies for the rims themselves, but Mavic's lack of service will cost them one.
Similar Products Used: Bontrager Mustangs, non-ceramic.
Bike Setup: Black ceramic 517's on XTR hubs with DT 14/15g spokes and aluminum nipps. (Thanks John)
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Submitted by
Philipp Pischke
from NDS/Germany
Date Reviewed: May 4, 2001
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Some people have written in their reviews that the rims are polished by the ceramic-pads until they feel and brake like polished glas: Not the ceramic-pads polish, but the dirt between the pads and the rims. If you clean them frequently, you will never have problems, you will not be injured because you cannot brake and you'll not die of them.
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joe
a Weekend Warrior
from Nottingham.England
Date Reviewed: March 16, 2001
Strengths: lightweight quite durable and tough ceramic surface is awesome
Weaknesses: for some reason the pads start to glaze quickly maybe i need some ceramic pads
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these are good,even though i only have one of them i bought a x517 cd (not ceramic) 3 months ago,and the ceramics finish is still better,even though my bro originally bought it over 2 years ago and gave it me this christmas!!!! it may cost a little more,but it lasts much,much longer. im now saving up for a pair of d521 ceramic rims mavic should be proud of themselves
Bike Setup: kona hahanna,z3 m80 forks,x517 cd front,x517 cd ceramic rear both on lx hubs
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Submitted by
Ian
a Racer
from #Peterborough UK
Date Reviewed: February 15, 2001
Strengths: Improved braking, Stronger wheels, light weight and cool looks
Weaknesses: none
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these are worth the money, yeah they cost alot, but they are so light and strong, i use them for duel, and downhill. IMPORTANT NOTICE Many of the reviews complain about the polish effect which reduces braking, well, i wokr in a bike shop, i know the score with prooducts, if you neglect your wheels, you'll pay for it, any rim will fail to stop you if you dont clean it, you dont fit a new chain and not oil it then moan becuase it snapped, so cleans your wheels, it doesn't take long. These rims will suit all but the heavest of riders.